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"i love that pete hexa is encouraging gender affirming care in the military i love that in the video that he spoke about this he had on a full face of makeup the maga men are laser focused on masculinity because all they think about are men and now we've reached the next layer of this where we know..."
[0:00] i love that pete hexa is encouraging gender affirming care in the military i love that in
[0:09] the video that he spoke about this he had on a full face of makeup the maga men are laser focused on
[0:15] masculinity because all they think about are men and now we've reached the next layer of this
[0:21] where we know they're thinking about penises it's just like the you know the band-aid just
[0:26] keeps getting ripped off and they're revealing more about themselves as they feel more emboldened
[0:32] in their fascist regime much like trump's cognitive exams pete hexath has found himself
[0:39] with a needle in his arm right saying why won't my penis work doc let me know i'm joanna coles this
[0:48] is the daily beast and we have a new feature to the podcast which i want to tell you about immediately
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[1:45] little toe than the entire of the american military let's get into it before we do quick reminder please
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[2:14] oh my goodness you are the scourge of the department of education jen welsh is back on the podcast
[2:22] and she has pissed off the head of the education department linda mcmahon jen explain everything
[2:29] before we get into discussing hexath mitch mcconnell lindsey graham all of them yes let us
[2:36] first discuss you and how you upset the department of education okay so on my podcast i've had it
[2:44] my co-host and i were discussing homeschooling and how a lot of homeschoolers do this because they want
[2:50] to teach creationism and in the homeschooling pamphlets they talk about dinosaurs living with
[2:56] man at the same time discourage critical thinking and i said this is trickle-down stupidity the people
[3:03] the dumbest people she knew in college were homeschooling their kids and so this is trickle-down
[3:08] stupidity this is maggot on steroids this is maha this is trad wife this is unvaxxed and unjacked and
[3:15] all that trickle down stupidity i wish that i had thought it's such a good line and it is of course what
[3:23] homeschooling is okay i know some of you out there have been homeschooled you can leave us a comment
[3:29] but i think homeschooling isn't good for the kid or the parent it's not and and my my point was
[3:34] that the parents can't critically think they're very scared of the world they're very fear-based
[3:39] people they've been encouraged to be blindly obedient and so i called it trickle-down stupidity
[3:45] they chop it up new york post fox news bedwetting hand-wringing pearl clutching losing their mind i get
[3:51] really excited about this because it's so easy to just poke them because they're so scared of people and
[3:56] the liberal white jennifer welch you know really terrifies them so much to my surprise you terrify
[4:02] all of us i'm just putting it out there you do touché uh but they uh kylie our producer said um
[4:10] jen the department of education just tweeted about you and it was like uh trick they quoted the new
[4:16] york times post and it was like trick uh homeschool homeschooling is great blah blah blah all of these
[4:24] platitudes meanwhile it's important to note that of course they uh piled onto this because part of
[4:30] the fascist project is christian nationalism and christian nationalism an antidote to that is
[4:37] education trump likes the poorly educated so of course there's he said he's open these are his words
[4:42] i love the uneducated he wants linda mcmahon to close down the department of education because
[4:48] fascism can thrive if you have a dumbed down trickle down stupidity electorate and so of
[4:54] course they've clamored onto this did you just do that trickle down trickle down stupidity this could
[4:59] be i mean this could be a gesture that we all start doing trickle down incompetence you can you can say
[5:05] it with so many things yes you can so where are we now has someone come to you and asked you to start
[5:12] a school i would send my children to the gen welsh school of life the general school of life glenn beck
[5:19] just posted on instagram that he is he would like pumps and me to debate a 15 year old home schooler
[5:28] on his show you i hope you said yes no of course i'm not going to do it i mean a 15 year old homeschooler
[5:34] because as a mother like this 15 year old has been wildly indoctrinated probably thinks that the earth
[5:40] is 5 000 years old and here's the thing and they probably live with a dinosaur pterodactyl yeah
[5:49] and uh i i don't want to intellectually bully a child now glenn beck i would love to intellectually
[5:56] bully but so you should you should do a debate with glenn beck about it glenn if you're watching
[6:01] the challenge is laid down in person in person possibly naked not naked i don't know that there's
[6:10] a bottle of vodka big enough that would um entice me to see glenn beck naked all right so unit arts
[6:16] then unit i do think a wrestling a debate i mean actually it was the thing that charlie kirk said he
[6:23] loved to do right debate you you know take me on and we'll argue it out although he had pretty extreme
[6:29] positions too um so where does this end jen i mean the new cycle will run amok new tomorrow they will be
[6:37] scared terrified of somebody else you know these are the people that are scared of jimmy kimmel
[6:43] stephen colbert drag queens books jennifer welch podcasters these people live in a constant
[6:50] state of heightened fear so while i am scaring them today fret not tomorrow some new scary person will
[6:58] come out and scare the out of them tomorrow and then they'll just repeat the hysteria all over again
[7:03] and that's what life is like inside the magical okay so side note as we are both the mother of two
[7:10] sons two sons yeah two sons could you imagine anything worse than homeschooling them no i couldn't
[7:18] and i don't think they could imagine anything worse right i know the idea of my two sons being trapped
[7:24] with me for 15 years as i was distractedly trying to teach them math geography all the things what
[7:32] what a disaster that would be a complete disaster and i don't know about you but when my kids sometimes
[7:37] they're like hey mom can you help me with my homework and i'd sit down it was like algebra and i'm like
[7:41] um uh straining like i don't remember this it's been mad no no i remember my best friend's husband used to
[7:51] be on homework duty from time to time and she said it was always a disaster because you would just end
[7:55] up shouting at them understand why can't you do this and it's just it's some of us are not born to
[8:02] teach exactly we're not born to teach but the mega movement also has weaponized all of this against
[8:09] teachers who are wonderful people who are underpaid and they have made teachers out to be a boogeyman and
[8:15] so they are encouraging this homeschooling and so that's why they have just completely latched on
[8:20] to what i said because it is a mirror it is a mirror up to how stupid their plans are for the
[8:27] department of education okay well we've got off to a flying start with jen welsh a flying start okay so
[8:35] you know my next question obviously is testosterone i suspect you have more testosterone in your little
[8:43] finger than the entire of the american military what do you think of haggers's decision our secretary
[8:51] of forever wars uh that there should be compulsory testing for testosterone in the military i love this
[8:59] i love that pete hegseth is encouraging gender affirming care in the military i love that in the
[9:08] video that he spoke about this he had on a full face of makeup with multi multiple camera angles
[9:15] why was he doing that thing where he looked into the middle distance i thought that was very strange
[9:20] because he starts by looking directly at you and then there's suddenly a shot where he's talking
[9:25] over yes you're like where have you gone i immediately noticed that as well this is an
[9:29] unserious person we don't have to look that far into freud's teachings to understand and deduce what's
[9:35] happening here the maga men are laser focused on masculinity because all they think about are men
[9:42] and now we've reached the next layer of this where we know they're thinking about penises it's just like
[9:48] the you know the band-aid just keeps getting ripped off and they're revealing more about themselves
[9:54] as they feel more emboldened in their fascist regime so so what is it about though the quest for
[10:01] more testosterone because i don't think they have much i think this is the governing of low t people
[10:09] people that have high testosterone number one probably don't even know it because they've never had
[10:14] to test it the fact that he's thinking about this tells me much like trump's cognitive exams pete
[10:22] hegseth has found himself with a needle in his arm right saying why won't my penis work doc let me know
[10:28] and then they oh buddy you've got low t you need testosterone injections i think when the history
[10:35] books are written about all of this and all the tell-all memoirs after you know who kicks the bucket
[10:40] it's going to be revealed that all of these broken men have caused a ripple effect by their uniting and
[10:47] to try to keep their secrets you know covered up when i think we know a lot of them are in the closet a lot
[10:54] of them are probably bisexual so you have experience with addiction pete hegseth has had problems with
[11:02] alcohol he left his two jobs running veterans affairs organizations with accusations by whistleblowers
[11:12] and by former colleagues that he was intoxicated on the job when he went through his hearings he promised
[11:19] that he would not be drinking on the job do you think this is another aspect of his issue with
[11:28] substances absolutely i don't think he's ever received treatment my husband as you mentioned is in
[11:34] recovery and people that are in recovery it requires rigorous honesty which precludes any addict
[11:41] currently in the trump regime that may be an active addiction it precludes them from seeking treatment
[11:48] because the number one rule is you have to be rigorously honest and you can't have secrets
[11:54] the whole trump regime is about secrets and lies so of course he's either not sober or he is a raging
[12:01] dry drunk this is not a person in recovery this is not a person who's gone through therapy we may
[12:06] remember that he was accused of sexually assaulting a woman paid her hush money his mother wrote him a
[12:13] letter begging him to stop assaulting women and treating women like yeah she said you are an abuser of
[12:19] women yes and i think that a lot of the problems with these men are the secrets they keep and in pete
[12:29] hexeth world he is a really crazy christian and you probably heard his pastor talk about women not
[12:37] having the right to vote and all of this stuff and pete hexeth probably tries to solve his problems by
[12:43] saying jesus please forgive me and this is the this is how where trumpism and christian nationalism
[12:51] completely dovetail trump has been able to commit all of these crimes and do unethical things and
[12:57] the public has forgiven him without any accountability well that's what evangelical christianity promotes
[13:03] forgiveness without accountability okay so let me ask you something because uh looking at the washington
[13:10] post ipsos poll last week the only real people now full-throatedly supporting trump are catholics roman
[13:20] catholics and white evangelicals where'd someone like lindsay graham fit in that mix right so again it goes
[13:32] to the secrets i grew up in oklahoma which is very very evangelical christian oklahoma city in the state of
[13:39] oklahoma the predominant religion is evangelical christianity and these people my mother would
[13:45] always say my mother lifelong atheist 83 years old she'd always say how did she even end up in
[13:51] that mix how did you end up in oklahoma what was your family doing that we're from dallas originally
[13:56] and then my dad bought some businesses and we moved to oklahoma okay and so she would always say well
[14:01] jennifer the bigger the bigger the christian the bigger the secret and it was always true my friends that
[14:07] were recruiting me the most that were like you've got to go get saved you've got to get saved that
[14:11] were just like manic about it their families i'd go spend the night and i'd notice one night the mom
[14:16] kind of had a black eye and i would say heather white why does your mom have a black eye she's like oh
[14:23] my dad and mom got in a fight the other night well it turns out her dad was banging the secretary
[14:28] and mom found out confronts him he roughs her up but these were the people that told me that my family was
[14:35] going to burn in hell forever because we didn't go to the church that they went through so how do
[14:40] they atone for that jesus please forgive me i screwed my secretary and i punched my wife poof you're
[14:47] forgiven who does that sound like trump starts an insurrection all of the things supreme court you have
[14:55] immunity poof no accountability so people ask me this all the time how can evangelicals support trump
[15:03] it's the exact same thing authoritarian religion has a accountability forgiveness without accountability
[15:11] and authoritarian government they both require blind obedience and picking up the rug sweeping things
[15:19] under and putting them out he does seem to be using the military for as his own personal trainer
[15:25] i mean you see him pushing sleds he's always doing weights he's doing he's attempting to put to do pull
[15:31] ups have you seen them well it makes the case for low t right but have you seen him trying to do the
[15:38] press the bench pressing and the pull-ups i could do better than he could do okay well that glenn beck
[15:44] should challenge the two of you two yeah hegseth versus jennifer welsh i'll do it i'll take it and then
[15:49] rfk junior should be the referee he should he can actually he's actually pretty fit i have to give
[15:55] credit where credit is due half is pretty hard i haven't seen the bottom half i'll just never get over
[15:59] he and kid rock climbing in that bathtub drinking milk together that was a weird shit so weird and
[16:04] that thing where he's on his bicycle in this so weird so strange and then he's out with dr oz
[16:09] climbing up things and then dr oz gets stuck they're so weird it's very very odd but i think
[16:14] that pete hegseth has transferred his passion for alcohol to a passion for exercise which is why he's
[16:21] always working out with the troops he's pushing his sled i just think that now he's getting into
[16:26] into into high t low t whatever the t it is michael wolf says that this is pete hegseth's um throwing
[16:37] his hat in the ring to be president in 2028 that he realizes that jd vance and marco rubio have got
[16:44] a head start jd vance was out doing joe rogan last week he was doing everything with his book and pete
[16:51] hegseth is whoa what's happening and marco's running venezuela he's national security advisor
[16:57] he's secretary of state and pete hegseth is this war isn't going very well and what i call myself
[17:02] the secretary of war he should have stuck with defense now his secretary for ever wars so this
[17:08] is him saying hey over here free tea injections for the brosphere thoughts do you think that i mean
[17:14] might be plausible yes because i think most of the men in the maga movement um are they feel 10
[17:22] foot tall and bulletproof and i think that they they like dunking on things they know that they have
[17:28] failed forward and that life has come at them too easily and so of course pete hegseth who is
[17:36] breathtakingly incompetent who is a an impulsive thinker an impulse impulsive actor of course he thinks
[17:45] he would have the hubris and the arrogance and the delusion of grandeur to think that he could
[17:49] be president of the united states so yeah i can buy into that i hope he does run i hope he does run i
[17:55] hope he runs too i hope yeah i do because we all need some fun we need some entertainment yeah i want
[18:00] him to run i want him to run too okay good all right so we'll be behind him also they can i always
[18:05] think he looks like an american girl doll he does little pocket chief he does little socks and his
[18:11] stars and stripes accessories i think there could be a whole line american doll yes american boy doll
[18:17] this is joanna and i are endorsing on the republican ticket for 2028 we are pete hegseth pete hegseth yeah
[18:25] our american doll boy yep perfect okay so mitch mcconnell dead or alive i'm sorry but
[18:33] oh that's such a good i think i think we've got a situation where we have a veggie boy propped up i
[18:45] think his brain is such bad taste i know it is but you know what but i don't care because mitch mcconnell
[18:52] uh had i intend to treat mitch mcconnell the way he treated the american electorate the way he has
[18:59] treated american women the way he has treated our constitution so yes i'm gonna bask in the bad taste
[19:05] of bashing mitch mcconnell because women in my home state don't have a right to abortion and are
[19:12] dying because of mitch mcconnell and we could go on and on about all the horrible things that he's done
[19:17] but am i sad that he's in the hospital at 80 god only knows how much i mean i feel like we've been
[19:23] watching this man die for five years every time he's not been well would you if you were his wife
[19:30] and that is a scenario i'm struggling to imagine
[19:36] i'm gonna say would you pull the plug i was going to say would you have come back from your trip to
[19:41] china where you were meeting the vice president of china to see your husband who'd fallen and been
[19:48] unconscious taken to a hospital and the emergency call had cpr on it they said oh well you know
[19:56] patient is undergoing cpr he's taken to hospital in an ambulance we know because he's told us he was
[20:03] unconscious his wife elaine chow was away if you were married to mitch mcconnell would you have come
[20:10] back i know that's a hypothetical if i was married to mitch mcconnell would i come back no okay if my current
[20:17] husband cpr i would immediately get back that wild horses couldn't keep me from getting to his side
[20:24] but if i was married to mitch mcconnell no i'd elaine chowett you'd elaine chowett it's a new verb
[20:31] isn't it it is yeah okay first so you think he's in are you with laura loomer on this that he's in a
[20:37] persistent vegetative state why do you have to put me in such that is diabolical okay diabolical company
[20:45] she she's kind of am i kind of i kind of am with her i kind of am on this issue i am finding myself
[20:51] in strange bedfellows with laura loomer i do not think that this man is of sound mind the photograph
[21:00] that he took from an american hospital as though he were a hostage of al-qaeda or isis is breathtaking
[21:08] and clutching the news clutching the newspaper and trying to smile i'm calling on all
[21:15] of it and i think andy breshear needs to grow up here and do what mitch mcconnell would do
[21:20] and call the election just start it would definitely he would definitely do it definitely
[21:26] and then let mitch mcconnell come out and say no i'm here i'm completely fine what are y'all doing this
[21:31] is crazy why has nobody put mitch mcconnell on just a knife a 10-second video to reassure people
[21:40] that he because he's in a vegetative state his chief of staff his his main advisor gets paid
[21:48] quarter of a million dollars he hasn't figured out how to actually reassure people that mitch is still
[21:56] compus mentis right i i just this is serious he is a united states senator how many people on both
[22:05] sides of the aisle um whether it's rbg or what was the lady in california diane feinstein diane feinstein
[22:13] or what about k donald trump k granger congresswoman in texas who it turned out had moved into a
[22:19] residential care home exactly alzheimer's and was still congresswoman exactly and this is just the senate
[22:25] is ours the senate is the people's and these this club of crusty old senators have made it theirs
[22:34] and we need to demand the way mitch mcconnell would demand i mean he he was he had power and he wielded
[22:40] it even when he was the minority leader of the senate and i think that andy breshear needs to man up
[22:48] and call the election right now do it andy breshe probably needs to call uh pete hexath and get a shot
[22:55] get a shot of high tea courtesy and yeah courtesy of the u.s military do you think that uh do you
[23:01] think that this is a good moment for andy breshear i mean what would what would gavin newsom be doing
[23:06] if this was happening in california i think we would see him gavin makes bold moves i mean that's
[23:13] one thing that he does he likes to be provocative towards trump um i do i think it could really be a
[23:21] game changer for andy breshear i interviewed him in person once in oklahoma and he's like straight out
[23:26] of central casting he's southerner choir boy nice progressive on a lot of issues good looking really
[23:33] good looking i mean just and you can just tell he's like a good person like he came in i was like he's
[23:37] just a good person this for him to show the kind of cojones to do something like this i think it would
[23:43] put him right up there in the talk for 2028 right because the electorate is craving people that fight
[23:50] we want the our politicians to fight for us the way maggot is fighting to tear everything down the
[23:58] way maggot is fighting to plunder we want our politicians to fight for us and i think if andy
[24:02] were to do this it could be a seismic shift in his political future but if he were to do that does that
[24:08] put him at odds with a republican state that has voted for him and of course his father was governor
[24:15] too right so in a sense does he end up he he's got to kind of straddle a line in terms of i think a
[24:23] lot of his voters are actually normally republican or people who voted for mitch mcconnell have also
[24:29] voted for andy bachear i think that he i think that now is not a time to straddle either fight fascism
[24:39] or don't but the straddlers are the silent people that are capitulating and so i'm tired of the
[24:45] straddlers i would rather sit down with somebody that's batshit crazy maggot than a moderate right
[24:50] now wow yeah i would wow because right now in the face of what we're seeing it is either you're going
[24:58] to fight this with everything you can or you're going to fight for it people are i had a professor
[25:04] on the podcast yesterday and he was like i'm just in the middle and i'm like in the middle of fascism
[25:09] what does that look like what does it mean to be in the middle of this and i think we need to be
[25:14] clear-eyed with our full chest that we oppose this we oppose the crime syndicate that is planted in the
[25:22] executive branch right now so where are you on todd blanche he's a compulsive liar he is a pedophile
[25:30] protector he is a a criminal enabler um he goes in to his hearings with two active bar complaints
[25:39] that's never happened i mean you know everybody's like oh we're living in unprecedented times i'm
[25:44] like i really want precedented times my husband was on my podcast earlier and he said i never thought
[25:49] i'd say this but give me back jeff sessions that's how low the bar is right and jeff sessions yet
[25:57] another of trump's people who worked slavishly for him recused himself over russia as we all remember
[26:03] and of course has never really gotten back on his feet after that no no and that's that's the price
[26:09] that's why all of these men will debase themselves um to trump and you know what it is i've just
[26:17] figured the whole thing out you know the trad wide movement is popping off all over the place all of
[26:22] these maga men little moses mike johnson pete hegseth marco rubio ted cruz all of them could put on
[26:31] a master class on how to be a trad wife we are governed by submissive men that are trad wives
[26:39] to donald trump donald trump's cabinet is actually a trad wife cabinet it's a trad wife cabinet
[26:44] our wife cabinet that is the reality they are so submissive and he finds them boring because he falls
[26:49] asleep in his own cabinet meetings if everybody agrees with you all the time it's a snooze fest it's a
[26:54] snooze fest okay all right helipad will you be flying your helicopter to the new helipad on the
[27:02] south lawn of course of course when i take my helicopter i'll i think there's a helicopter in
[27:08] your future jen the way that you're going so i still can't help thinking it should be jen welsh for
[27:15] senate come on jen you've got to find a safe seat we've gone over this joanna you know i would rather
[27:21] earn my money on my back than be a politician but rather it just be cleaner more defined less nuanced
[27:29] yeah um no i think that the reflecting pool the um all of the gold medallions i know you probably saw
[27:37] the crazy glue that was on trump's desk the other day right um all of these things we can dive down
[27:44] and talk about but i decided i don't give a about any of these things i don't care about the east wing i
[27:50] don't care about the ballroom i don't care about the arch i don't care about the reflecting pool i
[27:54] don't care about the helipad we can fix all of that we can fix every single bit of that he is turning
[27:59] upside down the rule of law he is appointing people that met with gilane maxwell privately and told her
[28:09] look i'll move you and here's a pardon this is what i'm deducing from this i don't know if this is true
[28:15] or not this is just my hypothesis and when it's politically convenient i'll roll it out for you just keep
[28:20] your mouth shut don't send anything else to the wall street journal do you think she'll be pardoned
[28:24] as trump leaves office assuming she can't be she can't be pardoned before then yes do you think that
[28:30] that trump actually has won the epstein files no they're pesky they have a they they just don't
[28:38] ever completely go away do they we think oh they kind of ebb and flow i think there's too much there
[28:47] there's just an overwhelming amount of evidence there i mean and the more they cover it up the
[28:53] more public opinion turns on on him regarding that on both sides so there's still three million more
[29:00] files to come out that haven't come out but there doesn't seem to be any pressing call for them to
[29:06] come out i mean we had andrew weissman the former general counsel of the fbi on the podcast last week and
[29:12] he was saying there is a smoking gun in those three million files that haven't yet come out there's
[29:19] obviously a smoking gun otherwise why wouldn't they release them and that's one of his reasons why he
[29:24] thinks todd blanch should never be attorney general um but i wonder i can't help wondering if the fire has
[29:32] gone out of the epstein files i don't think so i really don't i i just don't think that that is going to
[29:40] completely die i think that every single time i open up my phone there's some story related to it
[29:47] and the the survivors and their bravery and always putting themselves in the news they showed up to
[29:53] todd blanche's um confirmation hearings and he's refusing to meet with them and the democrats need to
[30:01] do did you think the democrats did a good enough job of interrogating todd blanche i didn't see all of
[30:08] it but typically i would say the democrats should be the first in line to get some of these low t shots
[30:16] and i'm a democrat i am a democrat but i wish that they would get rid of their give effect meter
[30:24] and just start fighting their approval rating is low because they don't fight hard enough it's not
[30:31] because people disagree with them it's because they don't fight hard enough and now is the moment
[30:37] where andy breshear as good a man as he is he needs to go gangster i was surprised during the
[30:45] todd blanche hearings that it was actually john cornyn who as we know has been primaried by trump
[30:50] in texas but it was his dissection of the slush fund the 1.8 billion dollar slush fund that seemed to
[30:59] hang around todd blanche the most and then there was the moment when john kennedy senator from
[31:05] louisiana asked him are you a friend of mr trump and and he goes well i'm his lawyer i mean i was
[31:12] his lawyer i was his lawyer i'm the acting attorney general and you thought oh john kennedy yet again
[31:18] caught someone else out do you remember when he went after christine ome and just sliced and diced yes
[31:23] uh when he said you know you spent quarter of a billion on that ad campaign did mr did mr trump
[31:29] know you were spending that money yeah and i'm sorry i can't resist it i love his accent i love
[31:34] those southern accents um but he got effectively he got rid of of christine ome and i can't help
[31:42] wondering if by accident i don't think it was on purpose he managed to get todd blanche to trip on his
[31:48] own shoes you know i think that it's really you ring up a really interesting point republicans by
[31:55] nature are they fight a little bit harder and when i think about the people who are now disassociated
[32:03] from maga that are still republicans thomas massey marjorie taylor green um uh torness yeah until this
[32:13] who's leaving they seem to outflank democrats in their critique of republicans it's incredible if
[32:22] you hear thomas massey or marjorie taylor green talk about united states policy with benjamin netanyahu's
[32:30] government they outflank schumer and jeffries on this and even though the democratic party the base
[32:38] that we our leadership doesn't ever listen to the base at all and so you have sometimes these
[32:43] very bad actors i think in marjorie taylor green or tucker carlson and some of the others who
[32:50] end up outflanking democrats in their critique of donald trump she i mean marjorie taylor green
[32:57] went on some rant the other day about the war in iran and people being war hawks she bat i mean just
[33:03] completely eviscerated lindsey graham he was a war hawk he was a warmonger and all of this stuff
[33:09] and then all the democrats are like cory booker's like you know he was really a hero cory booker
[33:15] referred to lindsey graham as a hero i'm like what are we doing what are we doing here lindsey
[33:20] graham was a piece of objectively this is a man who you know was clearly gay and ran a voted against gay
[33:30] issues all the time a complete war hawk homicidal really and um we can't be calling him a hero what
[33:39] what are we doing okay so you got a huge uh response to one of your posts after lindsey graham died
[33:49] holding a drone can you just describe for us okay so i was very intrigued when i got online and somebody
[33:58] posted a photograph and said this is lindsey graham's last known photograph and he was in ukraine
[34:05] and he is holding a drone and listener and viewer the drone was black and it looked like a big giant
[34:14] penis this is this is poetry in motion of course maggie loses their mind jennifer welch said lindsey
[34:22] graham liked penis i have so many lgbtq plus friends and i see from living in a red state how
[34:31] closeted men closeted christian family guy republicans ostracized demeaned diminish these people during
[34:38] the day and then fetishize them at night i don't know if you saw actress um uh james rose on instagram
[34:47] uh she did a video where she and she has tripled down on it she alleges that lindsey graham she's
[34:55] a sex worker paid her a stack of cash and lindsey was wearing red lingerie she performed all sorts of
[35:03] sex acts on lindsey graham now here's the thing if lindsey graham's kinky and likes to wear red panties i
[35:08] don't care but when you're voting against gay stuff then it's relevant it is a relevant issue he was in
[35:15] favor of the defense of marriage act exactly exactly so he's you know anti-gay during the
[35:20] day and then doing a bunch of gay stuff at night and so i don't i mean this whole idea that when
[35:26] somebody dies we have to reinvent who they were is insane to me like trump doesn't do that he hated
[35:34] robert moeller he goes after him now i don't want to completely go after lindsey graham but i go after
[35:39] him just as much in his death as i did when he was alive his death is not going to make me go oh lindsey
[35:46] died i don't i can't call him gay anymore because whether he's alive or dead lindsey graham was a
[35:51] closeted gay man jen welsh it's always good to see you it is always good to see you and you're about to
[35:58] go off on holiday so i'm so glad we got squeezed onto you i know i knew i had to i knew i had to i knew
[36:05] we had to reunite we did we did have to reunite jen welsh thank you so much for coming into the
[36:10] studio and i want to see you the minute you get back from italy of course it will happen excellent
[36:16] thank you is there anything that jen welsh doesn't have a strident opinion on it's why i love talking to
[36:27] her because she's got such sort of lateral ideas and funny phrases from trickle down stupidity to her
[36:34] fascination with how difficult it is to be gay in the evangelical community and of course they form
[36:43] donald trump's base anyway i love having her on she'll be back again soon the moment she gets back
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