Girlfriend Killer Blasted as a ‘Coward’ by Judge at Sentencing

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: this is about one zero zero eighty five five zero one fc people versus Medina this Medina [00:00:29] Speaker 2: the court this morning for sentencing appearances good morning your honor Matthew me a piece on behalf of the people P82796 [00:00:37] Todd Russell Perkins: good morning your honor good morning to your staff may it please this honorable court my name is Todd Russell Perkins P55623 appearing on behalf of Mr. Medina Mr. Medina your name please people Medina all right good morning to you both [00:00:52] Speaker 1: Mr. Perkins I'll tell you you've got a chance to review the prison's report with your client as well as the guidelines I did your honor are there any corrections to those two items before we get to any allocutions or either side [00:01:06] Todd Russell Perkins: we have I think we have an agreeable change to some of the specific OVs but it doesn't change the ultimate range OV5 would be 15 it's currently scored a zero it should be scored at 15 I'm anticipating what I trust in what Mr. Makepeace has indicated that that is accurate and then OV6 is 50 but it should be scored at 10 and it reduces the overall amount to 105 which does not change it from being level six so this guideline range is still 29 to 27 but it's a yes it is [00:01:44] Speaker 1: I'll make those chain notes any other corrections [00:01:56] Todd Russell Perkins: no other corrections additions or deletions your honor no okay let me turn it over to the people [00:02:04] Speaker 1: maybe we'll be sitting here you guys have a seat thank you [00:02:07] Speaker 2: yes judge there are several family members of Natalie Ramp showing the victim in this case that wish to address the court through the crime victims rights act I'll go back and give them whatever you want and have them come up one at a time thank you judge where would you like them [00:02:22] Speaker ?: oh yeah [00:02:22] Speaker 2: I have to call you please [00:02:23] Todd Russell Perkins: yeah yeah correction that's to jail credit [00:02:39] Speaker 1: we'll get to the jail credit okay [00:02:43] Speaker 2: stand right here state your name for the record and spell it and then [00:02:49] Edward McLaughlin: my name is Edward McLaughlin E-D-W-A-R-D M-C-L-A-U-G-H-L-I-N [00:02:56] Speaker 1: good morning Mr. McLaughlin how are you? [00:02:59] Edward McLaughlin: good morning [00:03:00] Speaker ?: go right ahead [00:03:01] Edward McLaughlin: thank you Natalie was the best mother, sweetest person, kind, thoughtful, never said anything bad about anyone I have all the respect in the world for her she had my grandson in her class and should have had him again the next year her kids and my grandkids might play in my backyard together she has all the respect for everyone never swore always proper everyone who knew her will miss her more than words can express she is in all our hearts it hurts to realize that she is gone forever our kids will miss her they will miss her at her graduations, birthdays and weddings she was only 36 years old when she was killed by Efren Medina he then took a one year vacation in Mexico after he killed her please add that time to his time in jail he needs to get the max plus 40 years keep him off the streets so he doesn't kill more women he is a selfish, jealous, mean, out of control man should never get out of jail let's not forget he stole the truck from his company for his getaway all right, I appreciate your countenance thank you [00:04:42] Speaker ?: thank you [00:04:44] Kathy Clements: good morning good morning my name is Kathy Clements K-A-T-H-Y-C-L-E-M-E-N-T-S [00:04:53] Speaker 6: and I'm the aunt of Natalie and I feel like this entire ordeal has been about Efren Medina so I want to tell the court who Natalie was she was a daughter my youngest sister Sylvia's only daughter my sister Sylvia is absolutely devastated with the loss of Natalie as are the rest of our family Sylvia not only lost her daughter but her best friend as well no longer will she be able to pick up the phone and call Natalie to talk about things no longer can she see and hug her daughter anymore because she's no longer here with us because you, Efren Medina, killed her she was a granddaughter our parents are simply heartbroken with the loss of Natalie Natalie was one of our parents' favorite grandchildren and they mourned her greatly it is especially hard for them because of the way she was taken from us in such a horrific way she wasn't killed in an accident she didn't die for some kind of disease she didn't die from natural causes she was brutally and selfishly murdered by you, Efren Medina she was a sister she was the sister of Christopher and Mark both Chris and Mark always looked up to Natalie to keep the family together and she was always looking out for what was best for each of them she was the best sister to them and they loved her greatly it's especially hard on Chris because he is the older brother and it hurt him so much to know that he couldn't protect her from you, Efren Medina her murderer she was an aunt she was an aunt she was the aunt of Christopher, Cameron, Colton, Kaylee, Carson, Matthew, and Emily she will forever be missed by these nieces and nephews and they will all be lost without the love and guidance that Natalie was always there to give them Natalie was more than just a wonderful aunt to them she always treated them like they were her own children it's almost unbearable to hear the younger ones say that Natalie's in heaven now with the angels you, Efren Medina, took her away from them sorry, I can't get my patience she was a niece me, along with all my brothers and sisters grieve the loss of Natalie because she was a special and wonderful woman inside and out I myself don't know anyone who didn't like or love Natalie she was just that kind of person a true friend to everyone she met she was generous with her love and compassion to others and everyone saw that in her and that's why everybody loved her I just can't understand why you, Efren Medina thought that you had the right to take Natalie's life just because she no longer wanted to be with you and finally and most importantly she was a mother herself she had two beautiful daughters Taylor, 17 years old and Caitlin, 15 years old she absolutely adored those two girls they were her whole world she was so proud of each of them and could hardly wait to see them what they had in life in store for their lives she was always talking about them to everyone and everyone always said she was beaming with pride as she described how much they meant to her Natalie and I had a conversation back in May of 2020 when she came down to Alabama to visit me she talked about how Taylor only had one more year of high school before she graduated and how she was looking forward to Taylor's graduation she was beyond proud of both of her girls well, now that Natalie is no longer here with us because you, Efren Medina, decided to take her life out of some idiotic rage of jealousy not only did Natalie miss seeing Taylor's graduation she will also miss seeing Caitlin's graduation as well she will miss seeing both her daughters graduate from college both daughters' marriages, both daughters having their own children she will never know the pure joy of her own grandchildren wrapping their arms around her neck and telling her how much they love her she will miss everything that was supposed to happen in her life because you, Efren Medina, decided to take her life and take her away from everyone who loved her so much that's who Natalie was and that's who you are, Efren Medina cowardly and selfishly took her away from us thank you [00:09:50] Speaker 1: thank you [00:10:09] Speaker 7: good morning my name is Eileen Ramstrom Natalie's mother-in-law and me and one of those two beautiful courageous young ladies sitting over there with their devoted dad who loves them more than anything in the world I'd like to read a poem for you that Natalie's youngest daughter Caitlin wrote but first I'd like to share a few words of my own Natalie was a part of our family for a very long time my husband and I thought of her as a daughter our children thought of her as a sister we loved her like our own there was a gentleness about her that's hard to explain she spoke gently she touched gently she loved gently it was soft it was sweet it was genuine she did not deserve to die this way we will miss her as long as we live and we'll never understand how Efren could have done this to her I've been struggling with something for quite some time now being a woman of faith I feel as though I should pray for your soul but I've been able to do that after the years of witnessing your lack of accountability or your lack of showing any signs of remorse at all in fact it's been the opposite you've consistently tried to blame others for your crimes and decimated Natalie's character in the process which was the worst part I've come to realize that I am unable to pray for your soul because you have no soul you are pure evil when you murdered Natalie you shattered those little girls' hearts into pieces their dad and those of us who love them have tried to put the pieces back together but there will always be an important piece missing and that is the presence of their precious mother those three have been through more heartbreak than anyone should have to endure an entire lifetime they have gotten each other through the worst of the worst and I know Natalie would be very, so very proud of them they and Kate have so much of her in them they look like her they sound like her most of all they love like her she will live on through them and he can never take that away unfortunately you are not going to be in prison for as long as you rightly should be but when your time comes to an end here on this earth that is when the ultimate judgment will be by the Almighty Father you won't be able to lie you won't be able to be offered a plea deal you will finally get the punishment that you truly deserve and you will burn in hell for all eternity Caitlin wrote this poem for a school assignment shortly after Natalie was cruelly taken from her the assignment was to write about someone special to you these are the words of grieving 13 year old girl remembering just some of her favorite time spent with her mom she is now 19 years old and missing her mom every day the poem is entitled I Miss Your Face Mom we're at the beach hand in hand relaxing relaxing on the blanket and playing in the sand we stay till the sun has set because we do not want to go just yet I'll miss these things big and small I love you all in all as we wander through the rides at the county fair the smell of funnel cakes roams through the air as the day turns into night the lights of the ferris wheel shine so bright I'll miss these things big and small I love you all in all the different colored lights we see as we decorate the Christmas tree baking cookies and other treats to share when all the family meets I'll miss these things big and small I love you all in all singing our favorites in the car on all our trips near and far laying in bed watching thrilling shows what's the ending nobody knows I'll miss these things big and small I love you all in all enjoying Sundays on the lake the sunsets were so beautiful they almost looked big climbing my favorite tree at the place that I love to be I'll miss these things big and small I love you all in all [00:15:34] Speaker ?: I love you all in all [00:15:35] Speaker 7: thank you thank you very much from my mother. She was the only one who truly listened. The way she looked at me made me feel like I glistened. I love these things, big and small. I love you all in all. Thank you. [00:16:09] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:16:39] Speaker 8: Thank you. [00:17:09] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:17:16] Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:18:12] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:18:12] Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:18:33] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:18:40] Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:19:08] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:19:08] Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:19:31] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:19:31] Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:19:52] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:20:11] Speaker 9: Good morning. Good morning. I have many words I just want to tell you. What's that? Justin? You destroy a lot more than one life. And you'll get what you got coming. You're a fucking scumbag. And you're going to fucking burn in the house. That's all I got. [00:20:56] Speaker 2: That's, I believe, all of the victim impact statements, Judge. [00:21:05] Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you. Anything else that people would like to say? [00:21:08] Speaker 2: Judge, you've heard, understanding that you're new to this case, it does have a significant history, clearly a huge impact on the family of Natalie Ramstrom. Even for me, this is the longest case I've had. I've been an attorney with the prosecutor's office for eight years. This case has been a part of six of those members, which is a long time. And I would ask that you follow the sentence agreement at this time. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Mr. Furman. [00:21:37] Todd Russell Perkins: May I please the court? I did want to address the issue of credit. I believe in the report it indicates 1713, but the court may not be aware he... Yeah, thank you, Mr. May I please it wasn't the application of the jail court, it's the totality of it. He was, he surrendered on September 9th of 2021 in another state, so that is not calculated. They're calculating from the time that he arrived in the state of Michigan, so the difference in that would be a total of 1779. [00:22:29] Speaker 1: So credit for times was it's 1779? Yes. [00:22:33] Speaker 2: Is that agreed? Yes, Judge. That is supported by the documents and information that we have as to when he was actually taken into custody in another state. I'll make that correction. [00:22:43] Todd Russell Perkins: Other than that, I don't, again, I don't have any other business corrections. [00:22:49] Speaker 2: And then, if I may just, just with respect to the way the report reads, right now for count one manslaughter, it says that the jail credit is zero, and then for count two, it says that it's 1713, it should be 1779, but that one should be 730 reflecting the two years, and then the rest would be applied to count one. Let's agree. [00:23:15] Speaker 1: Could you say that again here? [00:23:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, so on page, the second page of the report, basic information report, count two of two in the bottom right corner of that cell, it should be 730, which is two years, and then the balance of it should be applied to count offense one of two, which I've had the number 1,049, 1049. Okay. [00:23:46] Speaker ?: Anything else that's appropriate? [00:23:46] Speaker 2: No. No, you are. I'd ask, I'd ask you to adopt the census agreement, Your Honor. [00:23:49] Speaker ?: Mr. Medina, anything you'd like to say, sir? No, you're not. [00:23:51] Speaker 1: I've had a chance to review this. Okay. I'd ask you to adopt the census agreement, Your Honor. Mr. Medina, anything you'd like to say, sir? No, you're not. I'd ask you to adopt the census agreement, Your Honor. [00:23:57] Todd Russell Perkins: Mr. Medina, anything you'd like to say, sir? No, I'd ask you to adopt the census agreement, Your Honor. I'd ask you to adopt the census agreement, Your Honor. Mr. Medina, anything you'd like to say, sir? [00:24:02] Speaker ?: No, I'd ask you to adopt the census agreement, Your Honor. [00:24:03] Speaker 1: I've had a chance to review the census report. As indicated, I am new on this case. I understand that there have been three previous trials that resulted in hung juries in all of those cases, in all of those trials. which is probably the principal reason why the prosecutor offered you a charge reduction, I would assume, from the murder of the first degree. And that's the case. And that's the case. 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And for a person who, from those words and the going words of who this person is, to know that I'm responsible for that, I don't know if I'd be able to tell you anything. I don't know if I'd be able to say anything. [00:32:03] Speaker 1: So, you may not be able to say anything, but I can just look in the man's eyes. I look in your eyes. You know, I look in your eyes, I don't see anything. [00:32:15] Speaker 10: God, I turn myself in. [00:32:18] Speaker ?: Go ahead. [00:32:19] Speaker 10: Yeah, I turn myself in to face it and to give them what they want. This is what they want. They got it. I'm sorry for what happened. If I could take it back, I would. But I can't. I just got to move forward. They got to deal with it. I got to deal with it, too. It's terrible. It should have never happened. Thank you. [00:33:12] Speaker 1: All right, only because there's a sense of agreement in this case, and I have the utmost respect for both attorneys on both sides. I know this was given a lot of discussion, there's been three trials, it was unusual, that by itself, I assume that the family was consulted. You know, regarding this sentence agreement. So based on that, I will go along with the agreement. And since you, Mr. Medina, I count one, the involuntary manslaughter and serve a period of six to 15 years in the Michigan Department of Corrections. I count two, if on firearms, mandatory two years in prison, which is consecutive to the six to 15 in count one. You should receive credit for 1779 in terms of time surrogates you spent awaiting disposition of this case. Um, and the way the part is explained in terms of the days count one, count two, that two will be, uh, adopted into the, into the judgment. Uh, there's also a crime victims amount of 130 and state cost of $68 as well. Um, if you want to appeal your case, Mr. Medina will give you the paperwork to do so. Um, fill it out and attach the court within 42 days of the day to day. And if you are helping money to hire an attorney, the court with a .140 at no charge. And I wish you the best and the family the best, uh, moving forward. [00:35:21] Todd Russell Perkins: Thank you. [00:35:22] Speaker ?: Acknowledge the receipt. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, well done. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.