FULL VIDEO — 2024 Presidential Debate from ABC News

[0:00] Biden withdrawing after his last debate. [0:02] Donald Trump now up against a new opponent. [0:05] The candidates separated by the smallest of margins, [0:07] essentially tied in the polls nationally [0:09] and in the key battlegrounds, [0:10] including right here in Pennsylvania, [0:12] all still very much in play. [0:14] The ABC News presidential debate starts right now. [0:18] This is an ABC News special. [0:21] The most consequential moment of this campaign. [0:23] Kamala Harris. [0:24] Together, we're starting. [0:29] Donald Trump. [0:30] We will soon be a great nation again. [0:34] Face-to-face, historic. [0:37] The ABC News presidential debate. [0:40] Here now, David Muir and Lindsey Davis. [0:46] Good evening, I'm David Muir, [0:47] and thank you for joining us [0:48] for tonight's ABC News presidential debate. [0:50] We want to welcome viewers watching on ABC [0:52] and around the world tonight. [0:54] Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump [0:56] are just moments away from taking the stage [0:58] in this unprecedented race for president. [1:01] And I'm Lindsey Davis. [1:02] Tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event [1:04] of their campaigns, with Election Day [1:06] now less than two months away. [1:08] For Vice President Kamala Harris, [1:10] this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew [1:12] from the race on July 21st. [1:14] Of course, that decision followed his debate [1:16] against President Donald Trump in June. [1:18] Since then, this race has taken on an entirely new dynamic. [1:22] And that brings us to the rules of tonight's debate. [1:24] 90 minutes with two commercial breaks. [1:25] No topics or questions have been shared with the campaigns. [1:28] The candidates will have two minutes to answer questions, [1:31] and this is the clock. [1:32] That's what they'll be seeing. [1:33] Two minutes for rebuttals, [1:34] and one minute for follow-ups, clarifications, or responses. [1:38] Their microphones will only be turned on [1:39] when it's their turn to speak. [1:41] No pre-written notes allowed. [1:43] There is no audience here tonight in this hall [1:45] at the National Constitution Center. [1:46] This is an intimate setting [1:48] for two candidates who have never met. [1:50] President Trump won the coin toss. [1:52] He chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening. [1:54] Vice President Harris elected the podium to the right. [1:58] So let's now welcome the candidates to the stage, [2:00] Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump. [2:03] Kamala Harris, let's have a good debate. [2:12] Good to see you. Have fun. [2:13] Thank you. [2:15] Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. [2:17] It's an honor to have you both here tonight. [2:19] Good evening. [2:19] We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate. [2:23] So let's get started. [2:24] I want to begin tonight with the issue [2:25] that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, [2:28] and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country. [2:31] Vice President Harris, you and President Trump [2:33] were elected four years ago, [2:34] and your opponent on the stage here tonight [2:36] often asks his supporters, [2:38] are you better off than you were four years ago? [2:41] When it comes to the economy, [2:42] do you believe Americans are better off [2:44] than they were four years ago? [2:46] So I was raised as a middle-class kid, [2:49] and I am actually the only person on this stage [2:53] who has a plan that is about lifting up [2:55] the middle-class and working people of America. [2:57] I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, [3:01] the dreams of the American people, [3:03] and that is why I imagine and have actually a plan [3:06] to build what I call an opportunity economy, [3:09] because here's the thing. [3:10] We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing, [3:14] and the cost of housing is too expensive [3:16] for far too many people. [3:18] We know that young families need support [3:20] to raise their children, [3:22] and I intend on extending a tax cut [3:25] for those families of $6,000, [3:28] which is the largest child tax credit [3:30] that we have given in a long time, [3:31] so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, [3:35] buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. [3:38] My passion, one of them, is small businesses. [3:42] I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, [3:45] but there was a woman who helped raise us. [3:47] We call her our second mother. [3:48] She was a small business owner. [3:49] I love our small businesses. [3:52] My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction [3:55] to start up small businesses, [3:58] knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy. [4:01] My opponent, on the other hand, [4:03] his plan is to do what he has done before, [4:06] which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires [4:09] and big corporations, [4:10] which will result in $5 trillion to America's deficit. [4:14] My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax, [4:18] which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods [4:22] that you rely on to get through the month. [4:25] Economists have said that that Trump sales tax [4:28] would actually result for middle-class families [4:31] in about $4,000 more a year [4:34] because of his policies and his ideas [4:37] about what should be the backs of middle-class people [4:42] paying for tax cuts for billionaires. [4:45] President Trump, I'll give you two minutes. [4:47] First of all, I have no sales tax. [4:49] That's an incorrect statement. [4:50] She knows that. [4:51] We're doing tariffs on other countries. [4:53] Other countries are going to finally, [4:54] after 75 years, pay us back [4:57] for all that we've done for the world, [4:59] and the tariff will be substantial in some cases. [5:03] I took in billions and billions of dollars, [5:05] as you know, from China. [5:06] In fact, they never took the tariff off [5:08] because it was so much money they can't. [5:10] It would totally destroy everything [5:12] that they've set out to do. [5:13] They're taking in billions of dollars from China [5:15] and other places they've left the tariffs on. [5:17] When I had it, I had tariffs, [5:19] and yet I had no inflation. [5:21] Look, we've had a terrible economy [5:24] because inflation has, [5:25] which is really known as a country buster, [5:27] it breaks up countries. [5:28] We have inflation like very few people [5:31] have ever seen before, [5:32] probably the worst in our nation's history. [5:35] We were at 21%, [5:36] but that's being generous [5:38] because many things are 50, 60, 70, [5:40] and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago. [5:43] This has been a disaster for people, [5:45] for the middle class, but for every class. [5:47] On top of that, [5:48] we have millions of people pouring into our country [5:51] from prisons and jails, [5:53] from mental institutions and insane asylums, [5:56] and they're coming in [5:57] and they're taking jobs [5:59] that are occupied right now [6:00] by African-Americans and Hispanics [6:03] and also unions. [6:04] Unions are going to be affected very soon. [6:06] And you see what's happening. [6:08] You see what's happening with towns [6:09] throughout the United States. [6:10] You look at Springfield, Ohio. [6:13] You look at Aurora in Colorado. [6:15] They are taking over the towns. [6:17] They're taking over buildings. [6:18] They're going in violently. [6:20] These are the people [6:21] that she and Biden [6:23] let into our country, [6:25] and they're destroying our country. [6:27] They're dangerous. [6:28] They're at the highest level of criminality, [6:30] and we have to get them out. [6:32] We have to get them out fast. [6:33] I created one of the greatest economies [6:35] in the history of our country. [6:38] I'll do it again and even better. [6:39] We are going to get to immigration [6:41] and border security during this debate, [6:43] but I would like to let Vice President Harris [6:45] respond on the economy here. [6:46] Well, I would love to. [6:48] Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us. [6:52] Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment [6:55] since the Great Depression. [6:57] Donald Trump left us [6:59] the worst public health epidemic in a century. [7:04] Donald Trump left us [7:05] the worst attack on our democracy [7:08] since the Civil War. [7:11] And what we have done [7:13] is clean up Donald Trump's mess. [7:15] What we have done [7:16] and what I intend to do [7:17] is build on what we know [7:19] are the aspirations [7:20] and the hopes of the American people. [7:22] But I'm going to tell you all, [7:22] in this debate tonight, [7:24] you're going to hear [7:25] from the same old tired playbook [7:27] a bunch of lies, grievances, [7:30] and name-calling. [7:31] What you're going to hear tonight [7:33] is a detailed and dangerous plan [7:36] called Project 2025 [7:37] that the former president [7:39] intends on implementing [7:40] if he were elected again. [7:41] I believe very strongly [7:44] that the American people [7:46] want a president [7:47] who understands the importance [7:49] of bringing us together, [7:50] knowing we have so much more in common [7:52] than what separates us. [7:53] And I pledge to you [7:55] to be a president for all Americans. [7:57] President Trump, [7:57] we'll give you a minute here to respond. [7:58] Number one, I have nothing to do, [8:00] as you know, [8:00] and as she knows better than anyone, [8:02] I have nothing to do with Project 2025. [8:05] That's out there. [8:06] I haven't read it. [8:07] I don't want to read it purposely. [8:08] I'm not going to read it. [8:10] This was a group of people [8:11] that got together. [8:11] They came up with some ideas. [8:13] I guess some good, some bad. [8:14] But it makes no difference. [8:16] I have nothing to do. [8:17] Everybody knows I'm an open book. [8:18] Everybody knows what I'm going to do. [8:20] Cut taxes very substantially [8:21] and create a great economy [8:23] like I did before. [8:24] We had the greatest economy. [8:26] We got hit with a pandemic. [8:27] And the pandemic was not since 1917, [8:31] where 100 million people died. [8:33] Has there been anything like it? [8:34] We did a phenomenal job [8:35] with the pandemic. [8:36] We handed them over a country [8:39] where the economy [8:40] and where the stock market [8:41] was higher than it was [8:43] before the pandemic came in. [8:45] Nobody's ever seen anything like it. [8:47] We made ventilators [8:48] for the entire world. [8:49] We got gowns. [8:50] We got masks. [8:51] We did things [8:52] that nobody thought possible. [8:53] And people give me credit [8:54] for rebuilding the military. [8:56] They give me credit [8:56] for a lot of things, [8:57] but not enough credit [8:59] for the great job [8:59] we did with the pandemic. [9:00] But the only jobs they got [9:02] were bounce-back jobs. [9:03] These were jobs bounce-back. [9:05] And it bounced back [9:06] and it went to their benefit. [9:08] But I was the one [9:09] that created them. [9:09] They know it [9:10] and so does everybody else. [9:11] Vice President Harris, [9:12] I'll let you respond. [9:13] So Donald Trump [9:16] has no plan for you. [9:18] And when you look [9:19] at his economic plan, [9:20] it's all about tax breaks [9:21] for the richest people. [9:23] I am offering [9:24] what I describe [9:25] as an opportunity economy. [9:27] And the best economists [9:29] in our country, [9:30] if not the world, [9:31] have reviewed our relative plans [9:33] for the future of America. [9:35] What Goldman Sachs has said [9:37] is that Donald Trump's plan [9:39] would make the economy worse. [9:41] Mine would strengthen the economy. [9:43] What the Wharton School has said [9:45] is Donald Trump's plan [9:46] would actually explode the deficit. [9:50] 16 Nobel laureates [9:51] have described his economic plan [9:54] as something that would [9:55] increase inflation [9:56] and by the middle of next year [9:58] would invite a recession. [10:00] You just have to look [10:02] at where we are [10:03] and where we stand [10:04] on the issues. [10:05] And I'd invite you to know [10:06] that Donald Trump [10:07] actually has no plan for you [10:09] because he is more interested [10:11] in defending himself [10:12] than he is in looking out for you. [10:18] I went to the Wharton School of Finance [10:19] and many of those professors, [10:21] the top professors, [10:22] think my plan is a brilliant plan. [10:24] It's a great plan. [10:25] It's a plan that's going to [10:26] bring up our worth, [10:28] our value as a country. [10:29] It's going to make people [10:30] want to be able to go [10:31] and work and create jobs [10:33] and create a lot of good, [10:35] solid money for our country. [10:38] And just to finish off, [10:39] she doesn't have a plan. [10:42] She copied Biden's plan [10:43] and it's like four sentences, [10:46] like run, spot, run. [10:48] Four sentences that are just, [10:50] oh, we'll try and lower taxes. [10:52] She doesn't have a plan. [10:53] Take a look at her plan. [10:54] She doesn't have a plan. [10:56] Mr. President, [10:57] I do want to drill down [10:58] on something you both brought up. [10:59] The vice president brought up [11:00] your tariffs. [11:01] You responded, [11:02] and let's drill down on this [11:03] because your plan is what she calls [11:06] is essentially a national sales tax. [11:07] Your proposal calls for tariffs, [11:09] as you pointed out here, [11:10] on foreign imports across the board. [11:11] You recently said [11:12] that you might double your plan, [11:14] imposing tariffs up to 20% [11:15] on goods coming into this country. [11:17] As you know, [11:18] many economists say [11:19] that with tariffs at that level, [11:20] costs are then passed on [11:21] to the consumer. [11:23] Vice President Harris has argued [11:24] it'll mean higher prices [11:25] on gas, food, clothing, medication, [11:28] arguing it costs the typical family [11:30] nearly $4,000 a year. [11:32] Do you believe Americans [11:33] can afford higher prices [11:34] because of tariffs? [11:35] They're not going to have higher prices. [11:37] What's going to have, [11:37] and who's going to have higher prices, [11:39] is China and all of the countries [11:41] that have been ripping us off for years. [11:43] I charge, [11:44] I was the only president ever. [11:46] China was paying us [11:47] hundreds of billions of dollars, [11:49] and so were other countries. [11:51] And, you know, [11:51] if she doesn't like them, [11:52] they should have gone out [11:53] and they should have immediately [11:54] cut the tariffs. [11:55] But those tariffs are there [11:56] three and a half years now [11:58] under their administration. [12:00] We are going to take in [12:01] billions of dollars, [12:03] hundreds of billions of dollars. [12:05] I had no inflation, [12:07] virtually no inflation. [12:08] They had the highest inflation, [12:10] perhaps, [12:10] in the history of our country [12:11] because I've never seen [12:13] a worse period of time. [12:14] People can't go out [12:15] and buy cereal or bacon [12:16] or eggs or anything else. [12:19] The people of our country [12:20] are absolutely dying [12:22] with what they've done. [12:24] They've destroyed the economy. [12:25] And all you have to do [12:26] is look at a poll. [12:27] The polls say 80 and 85 [12:29] and even 90 percent [12:31] that the Trump economy was great, [12:33] that their economy was terrible. [12:35] Vice President Harris, [12:36] I do want to ask for your response. [12:37] And you heard what the president said there [12:38] because the Biden administration [12:40] did keep a number [12:41] of the Trump tariffs in place. [12:43] So how do you respond? [12:44] Well, let's be clear [12:45] that the Trump administration [12:46] resulted in a trade deficit, [12:49] one of the highest we've ever seen [12:50] in the history of America. [12:52] He invited trade wars. [12:54] You want to talk about his deal with China, [12:57] what he ended up doing [12:58] is under Donald Trump's presidency, [13:00] he ended up selling American chips [13:03] to China to help them improve [13:07] and modernize their military, [13:09] basically sold us out, [13:11] when a policy about China [13:13] should be in making sure [13:14] the United States of America [13:16] wins the competition [13:17] for the 21st century, [13:19] which means focusing on the details [13:21] of what that requires, [13:23] focusing on relationships [13:24] with our allies, [13:25] focusing on investing [13:26] in American-based technology [13:28] so that we win the race [13:30] on AI, on quantum computing, [13:32] focusing on what we need to do [13:34] to support America's workforce [13:36] so that we don't end up having [13:38] on the short end of the stick [13:40] in terms of workers' rights. [13:43] But what Donald Trump did, [13:44] let's talk about this, [13:46] with COVID, [13:47] is he actually thanked [13:48] President Xi [13:49] for what he did during COVID. [13:51] Look at his tweet. [13:53] Thank you, President Xi! [13:54] exclamation point, [13:56] when we know that Xi [13:58] was responsible [13:59] for lacking [14:00] and not giving us transparency [14:02] about the origins of COVID. [14:04] President Trump, [14:05] I'll let you respond. [14:05] First of all, [14:06] they bought their chips [14:07] from Taiwan. [14:08] We hardly make chips anymore [14:10] because of philosophies [14:12] like they have [14:13] and policies like they have. [14:15] I don't say her [14:15] because she has no policy. [14:17] Everything that she believed [14:19] three years ago [14:20] and four years ago [14:21] is out the window. [14:22] She's going to my philosophy now. [14:24] In fact, [14:24] I was going to send her a MAGA hat. [14:26] She's gone to my philosophy. [14:27] But if she ever got elected, [14:29] she'd change it. [14:30] And it will be [14:31] the end of our country. [14:33] She's a Marxist. [14:34] Everybody knows she's a Marxist. [14:36] Her father's a Marxist professor [14:37] in economics. [14:38] And he taught her well. [14:40] But when you look at [14:41] what she's done [14:42] to our country [14:43] and when you look at [14:44] these millions and millions [14:46] of people that are pouring [14:47] into our country monthly [14:48] where it's, I believe, [14:50] 21 million people, [14:51] not the 15 that people say. [14:53] And I think it's a lot higher [14:54] than the 21. [14:55] That's bigger than New York State [14:56] pouring in. [14:57] And just look at [14:58] what they're doing [14:59] to our country. [15:00] They're criminals. [15:01] Many of these people [15:02] coming in are criminals. [15:03] And that's bad [15:04] for our economy, too. [15:05] You know, you mentioned before [15:06] we'll talk about immigration later. [15:07] Well, bad immigration [15:09] is the worst thing [15:09] that can happen [15:10] to our economy. [15:12] They have and she has [15:14] destroyed our country [15:16] with policy that's insane. [15:18] Almost policy that you'd say [15:20] they have to hate our country. [15:22] President Trump, thank you. [15:23] Lindsay? [15:24] I want to turn [15:24] to the issue of abortion. [15:26] President Trump, [15:27] you've often touted [15:27] that you were able [15:28] to kill Roe v. Wade. [15:30] Last year, [15:30] you said that you were proud [15:32] to be the most pro-life [15:33] president in American history. [15:35] Then last month, [15:36] you said that your administration [15:37] would be great for women [15:39] and their reproductive rights. [15:41] In your home state of Florida, [15:42] you surprised many [15:43] with regard to your [15:44] six-week abortion ban [15:45] because you initially had said [15:46] that it was too short. [15:48] And you said, quote, [15:49] I'm going to be voting [15:49] that we need [15:50] more than six weeks. [15:52] But then, [15:52] the very next day, [15:53] you reversed course [15:54] and said you would vote [15:55] to support the six-week ban. [15:57] Vice President Harris [15:58] says that women [15:59] shouldn't trust you [16:00] on the issue of abortion [16:02] because you've changed [16:03] your position so many times. [16:05] Therefore, [16:06] why should they trust you? [16:07] Well, the reason [16:07] I'm doing that vote [16:08] is because the plan is, [16:10] as you know, [16:11] the vote is, [16:12] they have abortion [16:13] in the ninth month. [16:15] They even have, [16:16] and you can look [16:16] at the governor [16:17] of West Virginia, [16:18] the previous governor [16:19] of West Virginia, [16:20] not the current governor, [16:21] who's doing an excellent job, [16:22] but the governor before, [16:24] he said, [16:25] the baby will be born [16:26] and we will decide [16:27] what to do with the baby. [16:28] In other words, [16:29] we'll execute the baby. [16:30] And that's why I did that [16:31] because that predominates [16:33] because they're radical. [16:34] The Democrats [16:35] are radical in that. [16:36] And her vice presidential pick, [16:39] which I think [16:39] was a horrible pick, [16:40] by the way, [16:41] for our country [16:41] because he is really out of it. [16:44] But her vice presidential pick [16:45] says abortion [16:46] in the ninth month [16:48] is absolutely fine. [16:49] He also says execution [16:51] after birth. [16:52] It's execution, [16:53] no longer abortion [16:54] because the baby is born, [16:56] is okay. [16:57] And that's not okay with me, [16:59] hence the vote. [16:59] But what I did [17:00] is something for 52 years, [17:03] they've been trying [17:04] to get Roe v. Wade [17:05] into the states. [17:07] And through the genius [17:10] and heart and strength [17:12] of six Supreme Court justices, [17:15] we were able to do that. [17:17] Now, I believe in the exceptions [17:18] for rape incest [17:20] and life of the mother. [17:21] I believe strongly in it. [17:22] Ronald Reagan did also. [17:24] 85% of Republicans do. [17:26] Exceptions. [17:27] Very important. [17:28] But we were able to get it [17:29] and now states are voting on it. [17:32] And for the first time, [17:34] you're going to see, [17:34] look, this is an issue [17:36] that's torn our country apart [17:37] for 52 years. [17:40] Every legal scholar, [17:41] every Democrat, [17:43] every Republican, [17:44] liberal, conservative, [17:45] they all wanted this issue [17:47] to be brought back [17:47] to the states [17:48] where the people could vote. [17:49] And that's what happened. [17:50] Now, Ohio, [17:52] the vote was somewhat liberal. [17:55] Kansas, [17:55] the vote was somewhat liberal. [17:57] Much more liberal [17:57] than people would have thought. [17:59] But each individual state [18:01] is voting. [18:02] It's the vote of the people now. [18:03] It's not tied up [18:04] in the federal government. [18:05] I did a great service [18:06] in doing it. [18:07] It took courage to do it. [18:08] And the Supreme Court [18:09] had great courage in doing it. [18:11] And I give tremendous credit [18:13] to those six justices. [18:14] There is no state [18:15] in this country [18:16] where it is legal [18:17] to kill a baby [18:17] after it's born. [18:19] Madam Vice President, [18:20] want to get your response [18:20] to President Trump? [18:22] Well, as I said, [18:22] you're going to hear [18:23] a bunch of lies. [18:24] And that's not actually [18:25] a surprising fact. [18:27] Let's understand [18:28] how we got here. [18:29] Donald Trump hand-selected [18:32] three members [18:33] of the United States [18:33] Supreme Court [18:34] with the intention [18:35] that they would undo [18:36] the protections of Roe v. Wade. [18:38] And they did exactly [18:39] as he intended. [18:41] And now, in over 20 states, [18:43] there are Trump abortion bans. [18:46] which make it criminal [18:48] for a doctor or nurse [18:50] to provide health care. [18:52] In one state, [18:52] it provides prison for life. [18:55] Trump abortion bans [18:56] that make no exception [18:57] even for rape and incest, [18:59] which understand what that means. [19:01] A survivor of a crime, [19:03] a violation to their body [19:05] does not have the right [19:06] to make a decision [19:07] about what happens [19:08] to their body next. [19:09] That is immoral. [19:12] And one does not have [19:13] to abandon their faith [19:15] or deeply held beliefs [19:17] to agree. [19:18] The government, [19:19] and Donald Trump certainly, [19:21] should not be telling a woman [19:22] what to do with her body. [19:24] I have talked with women [19:26] around our country. [19:28] You want to talk about [19:29] this is what people wanted? [19:31] Pregnant women [19:32] who want to carry [19:33] a pregnancy at a term, [19:35] suffering from a miscarriage, [19:36] being denied care [19:38] in an emergency room [19:39] because the health care providers [19:40] are afraid they might go to jail, [19:42] and she's bleeding out [19:43] in a car in the parking lot? [19:45] She didn't want that? [19:47] Her husband didn't want that? [19:49] A 12- or 13-year-old [19:50] survivor of incest? [19:52] Being forced to carry [19:53] a pregnancy to term? [19:55] They don't want that? [19:58] And I pledge to you, [20:00] when Congress passes a bill [20:01] to put back in place [20:03] the protections of Roe v. Wade [20:05] as President of the United States, [20:07] I will proudly sign it into law. [20:10] But understand, [20:12] if Donald Trump [20:13] were to be re-elected, [20:14] he will sign [20:15] a national abortion ban. [20:16] Understand, in his Project 2025, [20:19] there would be [20:19] a national abortion monitor [20:21] that would be monitoring [20:23] your pregnancies, [20:24] your miscarriages. [20:25] I think the American people [20:26] believe that certain freedoms, [20:30] in particular the freedom [20:31] to make decisions [20:32] about one's own body, [20:34] should not be made [20:35] by the government. [20:36] Thank you, Vice President Harris. [20:38] Well, there she goes again. [20:39] It's a lie. [20:40] I'm not signing a ban, [20:42] and there's no reason [20:42] to sign a ban, [20:43] because we've gotten [20:44] what everybody wanted. [20:46] Democrats, Republicans, [20:48] and everybody else, [20:49] and every legal scholar [20:51] wanted it to be brought [20:52] back into the states. [20:53] And the states are voting. [20:55] And it may take a little time, [20:57] but for 52 years, [20:58] this issue has torn [21:00] our country apart. [21:02] And they've wanted it [21:03] back in the states. [21:04] And I did something [21:05] that nobody thought [21:06] was possible. [21:08] The states are now voting. [21:09] What she says [21:10] is an absolute lie. [21:12] And as far as [21:13] the abortion ban, [21:14] no, I'm not in favor [21:15] of abortion ban, [21:16] but it doesn't matter, [21:18] because this issue [21:19] has now been taken over [21:20] by the states. [21:21] Would you veto [21:22] a national abortion ban [21:23] if it came to your desk? [21:24] Well, I won't have to, [21:24] because, again, [21:25] two things. [21:26] Number one, [21:27] she said she'll go back [21:28] to Congress. [21:28] She'll never get the vote. [21:29] It's impossible for her [21:30] to get the vote, [21:31] especially now [21:32] with the 50-50, [21:34] essentially 50-50 [21:35] in both Senate [21:36] and the House. [21:37] She's not going [21:38] to get the vote. [21:38] She can't get the vote. [21:39] She won't even come [21:40] close to it. [21:40] So it's just talk. [21:41] You know what it reminds me [21:42] of when they said [21:43] they're going to get [21:43] student loans terminated, [21:45] and it ended up being [21:46] a total catastrophe? [21:48] The student loans, [21:49] and then her, [21:50] I think probably her boss, [21:53] if you call him a boss, [21:54] he spends all his time [21:54] on the beach. [21:55] But look, [21:56] her boss went out [21:57] and said, [21:58] we'll do it again. [21:59] We'll do it a different way. [22:00] And he went out, [22:00] got rejected again [22:01] by the Supreme Court. [22:02] So all these students [22:04] got taunted [22:05] with this whole thing [22:06] about this whole idea. [22:08] And how unfair [22:09] that would have been, [22:10] part of the reason [22:10] they lost, [22:11] to the millions [22:12] and millions of people [22:13] that had to pay off [22:14] their student loans. [22:16] They didn't get it for free. [22:17] But they were saying, [22:18] it's the same way [22:19] that they talked about that, [22:20] that they talk about abortion. [22:22] But if I could just [22:23] get a yes or no, [22:23] because you're running me, [22:24] J.D. Vance has said [22:26] that you would veto [22:27] if you did come to your desk. [22:28] Well, I didn't discuss it [22:29] with J.D., [22:30] in all fairness, [22:31] J.D., [22:32] and I don't mind [22:34] if he has a certain view, [22:35] but I think he was speaking [22:36] for me, [22:36] but I really didn't. [22:38] Look, [22:39] we don't have to discuss it [22:40] because she'd never [22:42] be able to get it. [22:42] Just like she couldn't [22:43] get student loans, [22:44] they couldn't get student loans. [22:45] They didn't even come close [22:46] to getting student loans. [22:47] They taunted young people [22:49] and a lot of other people [22:50] that had loans. [22:51] They can never get this approved. [22:53] So it doesn't matter [22:54] what she says [22:54] about going to Congress. [22:55] Well, wonderful. [22:56] Let's go to Congress. [22:57] Do it. [22:57] But the fact is [22:58] that for years, [22:59] they wanted to get it [23:00] out of Congress [23:01] and out of the federal government, [23:02] and we did something [23:03] that everybody said [23:04] couldn't be done. [23:05] And now, [23:05] you have a vote [23:06] of the people on abortion. [23:08] Vice President Harris, [23:09] I want to give you [23:09] your time to respond, [23:10] but I do want to ask, [23:11] would you support [23:12] any restrictions [23:13] on a woman's right [23:14] to an abortion? [23:15] I absolutely support [23:16] reinstating the protections [23:18] of Roe v. Wade, [23:19] and as you rightly mentioned, [23:22] nowhere in America [23:23] is a woman [23:25] carrying a pregnancy [23:26] to term [23:27] and asking for an abortion. [23:31] That is not happening. [23:32] It's insulting [23:32] to the women of America. [23:34] And understand [23:35] what has been happening [23:36] under Donald Trump's abortion bans. [23:39] Couples who pray [23:40] and dream of having a family [23:44] are being denied IVF treatments. [23:47] What is happening [23:48] in our country? [23:49] Working people, [23:50] working women [23:51] who are working [23:53] one or two jobs, [23:55] who can barely afford [23:56] child care as it is, [23:58] have to travel [23:59] to another state [24:00] to get on a plane [24:02] sitting next to strangers [24:04] to go and get [24:05] the health care she needs. [24:07] Barely can afford to do it, [24:09] and what you are [24:10] putting her through [24:11] is unconscionable. [24:14] And the people of America [24:15] have not, [24:16] the majority of Americans [24:18] believe in a woman's right [24:19] to make decisions [24:20] about her own body, [24:21] and that is why [24:22] in every state [24:24] where this issue [24:25] has been on the ballot [24:26] in red and blue states both. [24:28] The people of America [24:29] have voted for freedom. [24:31] Vice President Harris, thank you. [24:32] Excuse me, I have to respond. [24:33] Another lie. [24:34] It's another lie. [24:35] I have been a leader [24:36] on IVF, [24:37] which is fertilization. [24:39] The IVF, [24:40] I have been a leader. [24:42] In fact, [24:43] when they got [24:43] a very negative decision [24:45] on IVF [24:45] from the Alabama courts, [24:47] I saw the people of Alabama [24:49] and the legislature [24:50] two days later [24:51] voted it in. [24:52] I've been a leader on it. [24:54] They know that, [24:55] and everybody else knows it. [24:56] I have been a leader [24:57] on fertilization, IVF. [24:59] And the other thing, [25:00] they, you should ask, [25:04] will she allow abortion [25:05] in the eighth month, [25:06] ninth month, [25:07] seventh month? [25:08] Come on. [25:08] Okay, would you do that? [25:11] Why don't you ask her [25:11] that question? [25:12] Why don't you answer [25:13] the question, [25:13] would you veto? [25:14] Because under Roe v. Wade, [25:15] answer the question, [25:15] would you veto? [25:16] You could do abortions [25:17] in the seventh month, [25:19] the eighth month, [25:20] the ninth month, [25:20] and probably after birth. [25:22] Just look at the governor, [25:23] former governor of Virginia. [25:26] The governor of Virginia [25:27] said, [25:27] we put the baby aside [25:28] and then we determine [25:29] what we want to do [25:30] with the baby. [25:30] President Trump, thank you. [25:32] We're going to turn now [25:32] to immigration [25:33] and border security. [25:34] We know it's an issue [25:35] that's important [25:36] to Republicans, Democrats, [25:37] voters across the board [25:38] in this country. [25:39] Vice President Harris, [25:41] you were tasked [25:41] by President Biden [25:42] with getting to the root causes [25:43] of migration [25:44] from Central America. [25:46] We know that illegal [25:47] border crossings [25:47] reached a record high [25:48] in the Biden administration. [25:50] This past June, [25:51] President Biden imposed [25:52] tough new asylum restrictions. [25:54] We know the numbers [25:54] since then have dropped [25:55] significantly. [25:57] But my question to you tonight [25:58] is why did the administration [25:59] wait until six months [26:01] before the election to act? [26:02] And would you have done [26:03] anything differently [26:04] from President Biden on this? [26:06] So I'm the only person [26:07] on this stage [26:08] who has prosecuted [26:09] transnational criminal [26:10] organizations [26:11] for the trafficking of guns, [26:13] drugs, and human beings. [26:15] And let me say [26:16] that the United States Congress, [26:19] including some of the most [26:19] conservative members [26:20] of the United States Senate, [26:22] came up with a border security bill [26:24] which I supported. [26:26] And that bill would have put [26:28] 1,500 more border agents [26:30] on the border [26:31] to help those folks [26:32] who are working there right now [26:33] over time trying to do their job. [26:36] It would have allowed us [26:38] to stem the flow of fentanyl [26:40] coming into the United States. [26:42] I know there are so many families [26:43] watching tonight [26:44] who have been personally affected [26:45] by the surge of fentanyl [26:47] in our country. [26:48] That bill would have put [26:50] more resources [26:51] to allow us [26:52] to prosecute [26:53] transnational criminal organizations [26:54] for trafficking in guns, [26:56] drugs, and human beings. [26:57] But you know what happened [26:58] to that bill? [26:59] Donald Trump got on the phone, [27:01] called up some folks in Congress, [27:03] and said, [27:04] kill the bill. [27:04] And you know why? [27:05] Because he'd prefer [27:07] to run on a problem [27:08] instead of fixing a problem. [27:11] And understand, [27:12] this comes at a time [27:14] where the people of our country [27:16] actually need a leader [27:18] who engages in solutions, [27:21] who actually addresses [27:22] the problems at hand. [27:24] But what we have [27:25] in the former president [27:26] is someone who would prefer [27:27] to run on a problem [27:28] instead of fixing a problem. [27:30] And I'll tell you something. [27:31] He's going to talk [27:32] about immigration a lot tonight, [27:33] even when it's not the subject [27:34] that is being raised. [27:35] And I'm going to actually [27:36] do something really unusual, [27:38] and I'm going to invite you [27:39] to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies [27:41] because it's a really interesting [27:42] thing to watch. [27:44] You will see, [27:45] during the course of his rallies, [27:46] he talks about fictional characters [27:47] like Hannibal Lecter. [27:49] He will talk about windmills [27:51] cause cancer. [27:53] And what you will also notice [27:54] is that people start [27:55] leaving his rallies early [27:56] out of exhaustion and boredom. [27:59] And I will tell you, [28:00] the one thing you will not [28:01] hear him talk about is you. [28:03] You will not hear him talk [28:04] about your needs, [28:05] your dreams, [28:06] and your desires. [28:08] And I'll tell you, [28:08] I believe you deserve a president [28:11] who actually puts you first, [28:13] and I pledge to you [28:13] that I will. [28:14] Vice President Harris, [28:15] thank you. [28:15] President Trump, [28:16] on that point, [28:16] I want to get your response. [28:17] Well, I would like to respond. [28:18] Let me just ask, though, [28:19] why did you try to kill that bill [28:21] and successfully so [28:22] that would have put thousands [28:22] of additional agents [28:23] and officers on the board? [28:24] First, let me respond [28:25] just to the rallies. [28:27] She said people start leaving. [28:28] People don't go to her rallies. [28:30] There's no reason to go. [28:31] And the people that do go, [28:32] she's bussing them in [28:33] and paying them to be there [28:35] and then showing them [28:37] in a different light. [28:38] So she can't talk about that. [28:40] People Don't Leave My Rallies. [28:41] We have the biggest rallies, [28:42] the most incredible rallies [28:43] in the history of politics. [28:45] That's because people [28:46] want to take their country back. [28:48] Our country is being lost. [28:50] We're a failing nation. [28:51] And it happened [28:52] three and a half years ago. [28:54] And what's going on here, [28:56] you're going to end up [28:57] in World War III, [28:58] just to go into another subject. [29:00] What they have done [29:01] to our country [29:01] by allowing these millions [29:03] and millions of people [29:04] to come into our country [29:05] and look at what's happening [29:07] to the towns all over [29:08] the United States. [29:10] And a lot of towns [29:10] don't want to talk. [29:11] It's not going to be Aurora [29:12] or Springfield. [29:13] A lot of towns [29:14] don't want to talk about it [29:15] because they're so embarrassed [29:16] by it. [29:17] In Springfield, [29:18] they're eating the dogs, [29:20] the people that came in. [29:21] They're eating the cats. [29:23] They're eating the pets [29:26] of the people that live there. [29:28] And this is what's happening [29:30] in our country. [29:31] And it's a shame. [29:32] As far as rallies are concerned, [29:35] as far as the reason they go [29:37] is they like what I say. [29:38] They want to bring [29:39] our country back. [29:40] They want to make America [29:42] great again. [29:42] It's a very simple phrase, [29:43] make America great again. [29:45] She's destroying this country. [29:47] And if she becomes president, [29:49] this country doesn't have [29:50] a chance of success. [29:52] Not only success, [29:53] we'll end up being [29:54] Venezuela on steroids. [29:56] I just want to clarify here, [29:57] you rigged up Springfield, Ohio, [29:59] and ABC News did reach out [30:01] to the city manager there. [30:02] He told us there had been [30:04] no credible reports [30:05] of specific claims [30:06] of pets being harmed, [30:07] injured, or abused [30:08] by individuals [30:08] within the immigrant community. [30:10] Well, I've seen people [30:11] on television. [30:11] Let me just say here, [30:12] this is the... [30:13] The people on television [30:13] say my dog was taken [30:15] and used for food. [30:16] So maybe he said that [30:18] and maybe that's a good thing [30:19] to say for a city manager. [30:20] I'm not taking this [30:21] from television. [30:21] But the people on television [30:22] are saying their dog [30:23] was eaten by the people [30:25] that went there. [30:27] Again, the Springfield [30:28] city manager says [30:28] there's no evidence of that. [30:29] Vice President Harris. [30:30] I'll let you respond [30:31] to the rest of what you've heard. [30:32] You talk about extreme. [30:36] You know, this is, [30:38] I think, one of the reasons [30:39] why in this election [30:41] I actually have the endorsement [30:43] of 200 Republicans [30:45] who have formally worked [30:47] with President Bush, [30:49] Mitt Romney, [30:49] and John McCain, [30:51] including the endorsement [30:53] of former Vice President [30:54] Dick Cheney [30:55] and Congress member [30:57] Liz Cheney. [30:58] And if you want to really know [31:00] the inside track [31:02] on who the former president is, [31:04] if he didn't make it clear already, [31:06] just ask people [31:07] who have worked with him. [31:08] His former chief of staff [31:10] of four-star general [31:11] has said he has contempt [31:12] for the Constitution [31:13] of the United States. [31:15] His former national security advisor [31:17] has said he is dangerous [31:18] and unfit. [31:20] His former secretary of defense [31:22] has said the nation, [31:23] and the republic would never survive [31:26] another Trump term. [31:29] And when we listen [31:31] to this kind of rhetoric, [31:33] when the issues [31:34] that affect the American people [31:36] are not being addressed, [31:38] I think the choice [31:38] is clear in this election. [31:40] President Trump, [31:40] I'll give you a quick minute [31:41] to respond here. [31:43] Thank you, [31:44] because when I hear that, [31:46] see, I'm a different [31:46] kind of a person. [31:48] I fired most of those people. [31:50] Not so graciously. [31:51] They did bad things [31:52] or a bad job. [31:53] I fired them. [31:54] They never fired one person. [31:56] They didn't fire anybody [31:57] having to do with Afghanistan [31:58] and the Taliban [31:59] and the 13 people [32:01] who were just killed, [32:03] viciously and violently killed. [32:05] And I got to know the parents [32:06] and the family. [32:07] They didn't fire. [32:08] They should have fired [32:09] all those generals, [32:10] all those top people, [32:12] because that was one [32:12] of the most incompetently [32:14] handled situations [32:15] anybody has ever seen. [32:17] So when somebody does a bad job, [32:20] I fire them. [32:21] And you take a guy [32:22] like Esper. [32:23] He was no good. [32:23] I fired him. [32:24] So he writes a book. [32:25] Another one writes a book, [32:26] because with me, [32:27] they can write books. [32:27] With nobody else, can they? [32:29] But they have done [32:30] such a poor job [32:31] and they never fire anybody. [32:34] Look at the economy. [32:35] Look at the inflation. [32:37] They didn't fire [32:37] any of their economists. [32:39] They have the same people. [32:40] That's a good way [32:41] not to have books [32:42] written about you. [32:43] But just to finish, [32:44] I got more votes [32:46] than any Republican [32:47] in history by far. [32:49] In fact, [32:50] I got more votes [32:51] than any president, [32:53] sitting president, [32:54] in history by far. [32:55] Let me continue [32:57] on immigration. [32:58] It was what you wanted [32:58] to talk about earlier. [32:59] So let's get back [33:00] to your deportation proposal [33:02] that the vice president [33:04] has reacted to as well. [33:06] President Trump, [33:06] you call this [33:07] the largest domestic [33:08] deportation operation [33:09] in the history [33:09] of our country. [33:10] You say you would use [33:11] the National Guard. [33:12] You say if things [33:12] get out of control, [33:13] you'd have no problem [33:14] using the U.S. military. [33:15] With local police. [33:16] You also said [33:17] you would use local police. [33:18] How would you deport [33:20] 11 million undocumented immigrants? [33:22] I know you believe [33:23] that number is much higher. [33:25] Take us through this. [33:26] What does this look like? [33:27] Will authorities [33:27] be going door-to-door [33:28] in this country? [33:29] Yeah. [33:30] It is much higher [33:31] because of them. [33:32] They allowed criminals, [33:34] many, many millions [33:35] of criminals. [33:36] They allowed terrorists. [33:37] They allowed [33:38] common street criminals. [33:40] They allowed people [33:41] to come in, [33:41] drug dealers, [33:42] to come into our country. [33:43] And they're now [33:43] in the United States [33:45] and told by their countries [33:47] like Venezuela, [33:48] don't ever come back [33:50] or we're going to kill you. [33:51] Do you know that crime [33:52] in Venezuela [33:53] and crime in countries [33:55] all over the world [33:56] is way down? [33:57] You know why? [33:58] Because they've taken [33:59] their criminals [34:00] off the street [34:00] and they've given them [34:01] to her to put [34:03] into our country. [34:04] And this will be [34:05] one of the greatest mistakes [34:07] in history [34:07] for them to allow. [34:09] And I think [34:09] they probably did it [34:10] because they think [34:11] they're going to get votes, [34:12] but it's not worth it [34:13] because they're destroying [34:15] the fabric of our country [34:17] by what they've done. [34:18] There's never been [34:19] anything done [34:20] like this at all. [34:21] They've destroyed [34:21] the fabric of our country. [34:24] Millions of people [34:25] let in. [34:25] And all over the world, [34:27] crime is down [34:28] all over the world [34:29] except here. [34:30] Crime here is up [34:31] and through the roof [34:32] despite their fraudulent [34:33] statements that they made. [34:35] Crime in this country [34:36] is through the roof. [34:37] And we have a new form [34:38] of crime. [34:38] It's called migrant crime. [34:40] And it's happening [34:41] at levels [34:41] that nobody thought possible. [34:43] President Trump, [34:43] as you know, [34:44] the FBI says overall [34:45] violent crime [34:46] is actually coming down [34:47] in this country. [34:47] But Vice President Harris, [34:48] I'll give you that. [34:48] Excuse me, the FBI defraud, [34:49] they were defrauding statements. [34:51] They didn't include [34:52] the worst cities. [34:53] They didn't include [34:54] the cities with [34:55] the worst crime. [34:56] It was a fraud. [34:58] Just like their number [34:58] of 818,000 jobs [35:01] that they said they created [35:02] turned out to be a fraud. [35:03] President Trump, thank you. [35:03] I'll let you respond, [35:04] Vice President Harris. [35:05] Well, I think this is so rich [35:06] coming from someone [35:08] who has been prosecuted [35:09] for national security crimes, [35:14] economic crimes, [35:15] election interference, [35:17] has been found liable [35:19] for sexual assault. [35:21] And his next big court appearance [35:24] is in November [35:24] at his own criminal sentencing. [35:27] And let's be clear, [35:29] where each person stands [35:31] on the issue [35:32] of what is important [35:33] about respect [35:34] for the rule of law [35:35] and respect for law enforcement, [35:37] the former Vice President [35:38] called for defunding [35:40] federal law enforcement, [35:42] 45,000 agents, [35:44] get this, [35:45] on the day after he was arraigned [35:47] on 34 felony counts. [35:49] So let's talk about [35:51] what is important [35:52] in this race. [35:53] It is important [35:54] that we move forward, [35:55] that we turn the page [35:57] on this same old tired rhetoric [36:00] and address the needs [36:02] of the American people, [36:04] address what we need to do [36:05] about the housing shortage, [36:07] which I have a plan for, [36:09] address what we must do [36:10] to support our small businesses, [36:12] address bringing down [36:13] the price of groceries. [36:15] But frankly, [36:16] the American people [36:17] are exhausted [36:18] with this same old tired playbook. [36:20] Vice President Harris, [36:21] thank you. [36:22] Excuse me. [36:23] Every one of those cases [36:24] was started by them [36:26] against their political opponent. [36:28] And I'm winning most of them, [36:29] and I will win the rest on appeal. [36:31] And you saw that [36:32] with the decision [36:33] that came down just recently [36:34] from the Supreme Court. [36:35] I'm winning most of them. [36:37] But those are cases, [36:38] it's called weaponization. [36:39] Never happened in this country. [36:41] They weaponized [36:42] the Justice Department. [36:43] Every one of those cases [36:45] was involved with the DOJ [36:47] from Atlanta and Fonnie Willis [36:49] to the Attorney General of New York [36:52] and the DA in New York. [36:54] Every one of those cases. [36:56] And then they say, [36:57] oh, he's a criminal. [36:59] They're the ones [37:00] that made them go after me. [37:02] By the way, [37:03] Joe Biden was found [37:04] essentially guilty [37:05] on the documents case. [37:07] And what happened [37:07] in my documents case? [37:09] They said, [37:09] oh, that's the toughest of them all. [37:11] A complete and total victory. [37:13] Two months ago, [37:14] it was thrown out. [37:16] It's weaponization, [37:17] and they used it, [37:18] and it's never happened [37:19] in this country. [37:20] They used it [37:20] to try and win an election. [37:22] They're fake cases. [37:24] President Trump, [37:24] thank you. [37:25] A really quick response here, [37:26] Vice President Harris, [37:26] on this notion of weaponization [37:28] of the Justice Department. [37:29] Well, let's talk about extreme [37:31] and understand the context [37:32] in which this election [37:33] in 2024 is taking place. [37:35] The United States Supreme Court [37:37] recently ruled [37:38] that the former president [37:40] would essentially be immune [37:41] from any misconduct [37:43] if he were to enter [37:44] the White House again. [37:46] Understand this is someone [37:47] who has openly said [37:49] he would terminate, [37:50] I'm quoting, [37:51] terminate the Constitution [37:53] of the United States. [37:54] That he would weaponize [37:55] the Department of Justice [37:57] against his political enemies. [37:59] Someone who has openly [38:01] expressed disdain [38:04] for members of our military. [38:06] Understand what it would mean [38:08] if Donald Trump [38:09] were back in the White House [38:10] with no guardrails. [38:12] Because certainly we know [38:13] now the court won't stop him. [38:15] We know J.D. Vance [38:16] is not going to stop him. [38:17] It's up to the American people [38:19] to stop him. [38:20] Thank you. [38:21] Lindsey? [38:21] Vice President Harris, [38:22] in your last run for president. [38:25] This is the one that weaponized, [38:27] not me. [38:27] She weaponized. [38:29] I probably took a bullet [38:30] to the head [38:31] because of the things [38:33] that they say about me. [38:34] They talk about democracy. [38:36] I'm a threat to democracy. [38:38] They're the threat to democracy. [38:40] With a fake Russia, Russia, Russia [38:42] investigation, [38:42] that went nowhere. [38:44] We have a lot to get to. [38:45] Lindsey? [38:45] Vice President Harris, [38:46] in your last run for president, [38:48] you said you wanted [38:48] to ban fracking. [38:49] Now you don't. [38:50] You wanted mandatory government [38:52] buyback programs [38:53] for assault weapons. [38:54] Now your campaign [38:54] says you don't. [38:55] You supported decriminalizing [38:57] border crossings. [38:58] Now you're taking a harder line. [39:00] I know you say [39:01] that your values [39:02] have not changed. [39:03] So then why have so many [39:04] of your policy positions changed? [39:06] So my values have not changed [39:08] and I'm going to discuss [39:09] every one of the, [39:11] at least every point [39:11] that you've made. [39:12] But in particular, [39:13] let's talk about fracking [39:14] because we're here in Pennsylvania. [39:15] I made that very clear in 2020. [39:17] I will not ban fracking. [39:19] I have not banned fracking [39:20] as vice president [39:21] of the United States. [39:21] And in fact, [39:22] I was the tie-breaking vote [39:24] on the Inflation Reduction Act, [39:26] which opened new leases [39:28] for fracking. [39:30] My position is that [39:31] we have got to invest [39:33] in diverse sources of energy [39:36] so we reduce our reliance [39:37] on foreign oil. [39:39] We have had the largest increase [39:42] in domestic oil production [39:44] in history [39:45] because of an approach [39:47] that recognizes [39:48] that we cannot over-rely [39:50] land foreign oil. [39:51] As it relates to my values, [39:53] let me tell you, [39:53] I grew up a middle-class kid [39:55] raised by a hard-working mother [39:57] who worked and saved [39:59] and was able to buy our first home [40:01] when I was a teenager. [40:03] The values I bring [40:04] to the importance of home ownership, [40:06] knowing not everybody got handed [40:08] $400 million on a silver platter [40:11] and then filed bankruptcy six times [40:13] is a value that I bring to my work [40:15] to say we are going to work [40:17] with the private sector [40:18] and home builders to increase [40:20] three million homes, [40:22] increase by three million homes [40:23] by the end of my first term. [40:25] My work that is related [40:26] to having a friend [40:28] when I was in high school [40:29] who was sexually assaulted [40:30] by her stepfather [40:31] and my focus then [40:33] on protecting women and children [40:35] from violent crime [40:36] is based on a value [40:37] that is deeply grounded [40:38] in the importance of standing up [40:41] for those who are most vulnerable. [40:43] My work that is about [40:44] protecting Social Security [40:46] and Medicare is based [40:47] on long-standing work [40:48] that I have done [40:49] protecting seniors from scams. [40:52] My values have not changed [40:55] and what is important [40:56] is that there is a president [40:57] who actually brings values [40:59] and a perspective [41:01] that is about lifting people up [41:03] and not beating people down [41:06] and name-calling. [41:08] The true measure of the leader [41:10] is the leader who actually understands [41:13] the strength is not [41:15] and beating people down, [41:16] it's in lifting people up. [41:17] I intend to be that president. [41:20] President Trump, your response? [41:21] Well, first of all, [41:21] I wasn't given $400 million. [41:23] I wish I was. [41:24] My father was a Brooklyn builder, [41:25] Brooklyn, Queens, [41:26] and a great father, [41:28] and I learned a lot from him, [41:29] but I was given a fraction of that, [41:30] a tiny fraction, [41:31] and I built it into many, [41:33] many billions of dollars, [41:34] many, many billions. [41:36] And when people see it, [41:37] they are even surprised. [41:38] So we don't have to talk about that. [41:40] Fracking? [41:41] She's been against it for 12 years. [41:43] Defund the police. [41:45] She's been against that forever. [41:47] She gave all that stuff up [41:49] very wrongly, very horribly, [41:52] and everybody's laughing at it, okay? [41:54] They're all laughing at it. [41:55] She gave up at least 12 [41:57] and probably 14 or 15 different policies. [41:59] Like, she was big on defund the police. [42:02] In Minnesota, she went out, [42:04] wait a minute, [42:04] I'm talking now, [42:06] if you don't mind, please. [42:08] Does that sound familiar? [42:09] She went out, [42:13] she went out in Minnesota [42:15] and wanted to let criminals [42:18] that killed people [42:19] that burned down Minneapolis, [42:21] she went out and raised money [42:22] to get them out of jail. [42:24] She did things [42:24] that nobody would ever think of. [42:26] Now she wants to do [42:27] transgender operations [42:29] on illegal aliens [42:30] that are in prison. [42:32] This is a radical left liberal [42:34] that would do this. [42:36] She wants to confiscate your guns, [42:37] and she will never allow fracking [42:39] in Pennsylvania. [42:40] If she won the election, [42:42] fracking in Pennsylvania [42:43] will end on day one. [42:45] Just to finish, [42:46] one thing so important [42:47] in my opinion. [42:49] So I got the oil business going [42:51] like nobody has ever done before. [42:53] They took, [42:53] when they took over, [42:55] they got rid of it, [42:56] started getting rid of it, [42:57] and the prices were going up the roof. [43:00] They immediately let these guys go [43:03] to where they were. [43:04] I would have been five times, [43:07] four times, [43:08] five times higher, [43:09] because you're talking about [43:10] three and a half years ago. [43:11] They got it up to where I was [43:13] because they had no choice, [43:14] because the prices of energy [43:16] were quadrupling and doubling. [43:18] You saw what happened to gasoline. [43:20] So they said, [43:21] let's go back to Trump. [43:22] But if she won the election, [43:23] the day after that election, [43:25] they'll go back to destroying our country, [43:27] and oil will be dead, [43:28] fossil fuel will be dead. [43:30] We'll go back to windmills, [43:31] and we'll go back to solar, [43:32] where they need a whole desert [43:34] to get some energy to come out. [43:36] You ever see a solar plant? [43:37] By the way, [43:37] I'm a big fan of solar, [43:39] but they take 400, 500 acres [43:43] of desert soil. [43:44] President Trump, [43:45] we have a lot of issues [43:46] that we have to get to. [43:47] We're out of time. [43:48] Thank you. [43:49] Lindsay, thank you. [43:49] We have an election in just 56 days, [43:52] and I want to talk about [43:53] the peaceful transfer of power, [43:54] which, of course, [43:55] we all know is a cornerstone [43:56] of our democracy [43:57] and the role of a president [43:58] in a moment of crisis. [44:00] Mr. President, [44:01] on January 6th, [44:02] you told your supporters [44:03] to march to the Capitol. [44:04] You said you would be [44:05] right there with them. [44:05] The country and the world [44:07] saw what played out [44:08] at the Capitol that day, [44:08] the officers coming under attack. [44:11] Aides in the West Wing [44:12] say you watched it unfold [44:13] on television [44:13] off the Oval Office. [44:15] You did send out tweets, [44:16] but it was more than two hours [44:17] before you sent out [44:18] that video message [44:19] telling your supporters [44:20] to go home. [44:21] Is there anything you regret [44:23] about what you did on that day? [44:25] You just said a thing [44:27] that isn't covered [44:28] peacefully and patriotically, [44:31] I said during my speech, [44:32] not later on. [44:34] Peacefully and patriotically. [44:36] And nobody on the other side [44:38] was killed. [44:39] Ashley Babbitt was shot [44:40] by an out-of-control police officer [44:43] that should have never, [44:44] ever shot her. [44:46] It's a disgrace. [44:48] But we didn't do [44:49] this group of people [44:50] that have been treated so badly. [44:52] I ask, [44:53] what about all the people [44:54] that are pouring into our country [44:55] and killing people [44:56] that she allowed to pour in? [44:58] She was the border czar. [44:59] Remember that. [44:59] She was the border czar. [45:01] She doesn't want to be called [45:02] the border czar [45:03] because she's embarrassed [45:03] by the border. [45:04] In fact, she said at the beginning, [45:06] oh, I'm surprised [45:06] you're not talking [45:07] about the border yet. [45:08] That's because she knows [45:09] what a bad job they've done. [45:11] What about those people? [45:12] What are they going [45:13] to be prosecuted? [45:14] When are these people [45:16] from countries all over the world, [45:17] not just South America, [45:18] they're coming in [45:19] from all over the world, David, [45:22] all over the world, [45:24] and crime rates are down [45:25] all over the world [45:26] because of it. [45:27] But let me just ask you. [45:27] But one of those, David, [45:28] when are those people [45:29] going to be prosecuted? [45:30] When are the people [45:31] that burned down Minneapolis [45:32] going to be prosecuted? [45:34] Or in Seattle? [45:35] They went into Seattle. [45:36] They took over a big percentage [45:37] of the city of Seattle. [45:39] When are those people [45:40] going to be prosecuted? [45:41] But let me just ask you. [45:42] You might ask her that question. [45:43] You were the president. [45:44] You were watching it [45:45] unfold on television. [45:46] It's a very simple question [45:47] as we move forward [45:48] toward another election. [45:49] Is there anything you regret [45:50] about what you did [45:51] on that day? [45:53] Yes, sir? [45:53] I had nothing to do with that [45:55] other than they asked me [45:56] to make a speech. [45:57] I showed up for a speech. [45:58] I said, [45:58] I think it's going to be big. [46:00] I went to Nancy Pelosi [46:01] and the mayor [46:02] of Washington, D.C. [46:04] And the mayor [46:04] put it back in writing, [46:06] as you know. [46:07] I said, you know, [46:08] this is going to be [46:08] a very big rally [46:10] or whatever you want [46:11] to call it. [46:11] And again, [46:12] it wasn't done by me. [46:13] It was done by others. [46:14] I said, I'd like to give you [46:16] 10,000 National Guard [46:17] or soldiers. [46:19] They rejected me. [46:20] Nancy Pelosi rejected me. [46:22] It was just two weeks ago. [46:23] Her daughter has a tape [46:24] of her saying [46:25] she is fully responsible [46:27] for what happened. [46:28] They want to get rid [46:28] of that tape. [46:30] It would have never happened [46:31] if Nancy Pelosi [46:32] and the mayor of Washington [46:33] did their jobs. [46:35] I wasn't responsible [46:36] for security. [46:37] Nancy Pelosi [46:38] was responsible. [46:39] She didn't do her job. [46:40] The question was about [46:41] you as president, [46:42] not about former Speaker Pelosi. [46:43] But I do want [46:44] Vice President Harris [46:45] to respond here. [46:47] I was at the Capitol [46:48] on January 6th. [46:50] I was the vice president-elect. [46:52] I was also an acting senator. [46:54] I was there. [46:55] And on that day, [46:57] the president of the United States [46:59] incited a violent mob [47:00] to attack our nation's Capitol, [47:06] to desecrate our nation's Capitol. [47:08] On that day, [47:09] 140 law enforcement officers [47:11] were injured. [47:12] And some died. [47:14] And understand, [47:16] the former president [47:17] has been indicted [47:18] and impeached [47:19] for exactly that reason. [47:22] But this is not [47:23] an isolated situation. [47:25] Let's remember Charlottesville, [47:28] where there was a mob [47:30] of people carrying tiki torches, [47:33] spewing anti-Semitic hate. [47:36] And what did the president [47:38] then at the time say? [47:40] There were fine people [47:41] on each side. [47:42] Let's remember [47:43] that when it came [47:45] to the Proud Boys, [47:46] a militia. [47:48] The president said, [47:49] the former president said, [47:51] stand back and stand by. [47:53] So for everyone watching [47:55] who remembers [47:55] what January 6th was, [47:58] I say, [47:59] we don't have to go back. [48:02] Let's not go back. [48:03] We're not going back. [48:04] It's time to turn the page. [48:06] And if that was [48:07] a bridge too far for you, [48:09] well, there is a place [48:10] in our campaign for you [48:13] to stand for country, [48:16] to stand for our democracy, [48:18] to stand for rule of law, [48:21] and to end the chaos, [48:24] and to end the approach [48:26] that is about attacking [48:28] the foundations of our democracy, [48:30] because you don't like the outcome. [48:32] And be clear on that point. [48:34] Donald Trump, the candidate, [48:36] has said in this election, [48:38] there will be a bloodbath [48:39] if this and the outcome [48:41] of this election [48:42] is not to his liking. [48:44] Let's turn the page on this. [48:46] Let's not go back. [48:47] Let's chart a course [48:49] for the future [48:50] and not go backwards [48:52] to the past. [48:53] Let me just follow up here. [48:55] It was a different term, [48:57] and it was a term [48:58] that related to energy, [48:59] because they have destroyed [49:00] our energy business. [49:02] That was where bloodbath was. [49:03] Also, on Charlottesville, [49:05] that story has been, [49:06] as you would say, debunked. [49:08] Laura Ingram, [49:09] Sean Hannity, [49:10] Jesse, [49:11] all of these people [49:12] they covered it. [49:13] If they go an extra sentence, [49:15] they will see it was perfect. [49:17] It was debunked [49:18] in almost every newspaper, [49:19] but they still bring it up, [49:21] just like they bring 2025 up. [49:23] They bring all of this stuff up. [49:24] I ask you this. [49:25] You talk about the Capitol. [49:27] Why are we allowing [49:29] these millions of people [49:30] to come through [49:31] on the southern border? [49:32] How come she's not doing anything? [49:34] And I'll tell you what I would do, [49:35] and I would be very proud to do it. [49:37] I would say we would both [49:38] leave this debate right now. [49:40] I'd like to see her go down [49:42] to Washington, D.C. [49:44] during this debate, [49:45] because we're wasting [49:46] a lot of time. [49:47] Go down to, [49:47] because she's been so bad, [49:49] it's so ridiculous. [49:50] Go down to Washington, D.C. [49:52] and let her sign a bill [49:53] to close up the border, [49:54] because they have [49:55] the right to do it. [49:56] They don't need bills. [49:57] They have the right to do it. [49:58] The president of the United States, [50:00] you'll get him out of bed, [50:01] you'll wake him up [50:02] at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, [50:03] you'll say, [50:04] come on, [50:04] come on down to the office, [50:05] let's sign a bill. [50:06] If he signs a bill [50:08] that the border is closed, [50:10] all he has to do [50:10] is say it to the border patrol, [50:12] who are phenomenal. [50:13] If they do that, [50:14] the border is closed. [50:15] Those people are killing [50:17] many people, [50:17] unlike J6. [50:19] We talked immigration [50:20] here tonight. [50:20] I do want to focus [50:21] on this next issue [50:22] to both of you, [50:23] because it really brings us [50:23] this into focus, [50:25] truth in these times [50:26] that we're living in. [50:27] Mr. President, [50:28] for three and a half years [50:29] after you lost [50:30] the 2020 election, [50:31] you repeatedly falsely claimed [50:33] that you won, [50:34] many times saying [50:35] you won in a landslide. [50:36] In the past couple of weeks [50:37] leading up to this debate, [50:39] you have said, [50:40] you lost by a whisker, [50:41] that you didn't quite make it, [50:43] that you came up [50:44] a little bit short. [50:45] I said that? [50:46] Are you now acknowledging [50:47] that you lost in 2020? [50:48] No, I don't acknowledge that at all. [50:49] I said that sarcastically. [50:51] You know that. [50:52] We said, [50:52] oh, we lost by a whisker. [50:53] That was said sarcastically. [50:55] Look, [50:56] there's so much proof. [50:57] All you have to do [50:58] is look at it, [50:59] and they should have sent it back [51:00] to the legislatures for approval. [51:02] I got almost 75 million votes, [51:04] the most votes [51:05] any sitting president [51:06] has ever gotten. [51:07] I was told if I got 63, [51:08] which was what I got in 2016, [51:10] you can't be beaten. [51:12] The election, [51:13] people should never be thinking about [51:15] an election as fraudulent. [51:16] We need two things. [51:17] We need walls. [51:18] We need, [51:19] and we have to have it. [51:20] We have to have borders, [51:22] and we have to have good elections. [51:23] Our elections are bad. [51:25] And a lot of these [51:26] illegal immigrants coming in, [51:28] they're trying to get them to vote. [51:29] They can't even speak English. [51:31] They don't even know [51:31] what country they're in practically. [51:33] And these people [51:34] are trying to get them to vote. [51:35] And that's why [51:36] they're allowing them [51:37] to come into our country. [51:38] I did watch [51:39] all of these pieces of video. [51:41] I didn't detect the sarcasm. [51:42] Lost by a whisker. [51:43] We didn't quite make it. [51:44] And we should just point out here [51:45] as clarification, [51:46] and you know this, [51:47] you and your allies, [51:48] 60 cases in front of many judges, [51:50] many of them Republican, [51:51] and said there was no widespread fraud. [51:52] They said we didn't have standing. [51:53] That's the other thing. [51:55] They said we didn't have standing, [51:56] a technicality. [51:57] Can you imagine a system [51:59] where a person in an election [52:01] doesn't have standing, [52:02] the president of the United States [52:04] doesn't have standing? [52:05] That's how we lost. [52:07] If you look at the facts, [52:08] and I'd love to have you [52:09] do a special on it. [52:11] I'll show you Georgia, [52:12] and I'll show you Wisconsin, [52:14] and I'll show you Pennsylvania, [52:16] and I'll show you... [52:16] We have so many facts and statistics, [52:19] but you know what? [52:20] That doesn't matter, [52:21] because we have to solve the problem [52:22] that we have right now. [52:23] That's old news. [52:25] And the problem that we have right now [52:26] is we have a nation in decline, [52:29] and they have put it into decline. [52:32] We have a nation that is dying, David. [52:34] Mr. President, thank you. [52:36] Vice President Harris, [52:37] you heard the president there tonight. [52:38] He said he didn't say that, [52:39] that he lost by a whisker. [52:40] So he still believes [52:41] he did not lose the election [52:43] that was won by President Biden. [52:46] And yourself. [52:47] But I do want to ask you about something [52:49] that's come up in the last couple of days. [52:50] This was a post from President Trump [52:52] about this upcoming election [52:54] just weeks away. [52:55] He said, [52:55] When I win, [52:56] those people who cheated, [52:57] and then he lists donors, voters, [52:59] election officials, [53:00] he says, [53:00] will be prosecuted [53:01] to the fullest extent of the law, [53:03] which will include [53:04] long-term prison sentences. [53:06] One of your campaign's [53:07] top lawyers responded, [53:08] saying, [53:08] We won't let Donald Trump intimidate us. [53:10] We won't let him suppress the vote. [53:12] Is that what you believe [53:13] he's trying to do here? [53:14] Donald Trump was fired [53:17] by 81 million people. [53:19] So let's be clear about that. [53:21] And clearly, [53:22] he is having a very difficult time [53:23] processing that. [53:25] But we cannot afford [53:27] to have a president [53:28] of the United States [53:29] who attempts, [53:32] as he did in the past, [53:34] to upend the will of the voters [53:36] in a free and fair election. [53:38] And I'm going to tell you [53:39] that I have traveled the world [53:41] as vice president of the United States. [53:43] And world leaders [53:45] are laughing at Donald Trump. [53:47] I have talked with military leaders, [53:49] some of whom worked with you, [53:51] and they say you're a disgrace. [53:54] And when you then talk in this way, [53:57] in a presidential debate, [53:59] and deny what over and over again [54:02] are court cases you have lost [54:04] because you did, in fact, [54:06] lose that election, [54:07] it leads one to believe [54:09] that perhaps we do not have [54:12] in the candidate to my right [54:13] the temperament [54:14] or the ability [54:17] to not be confused about fact. [54:20] That's deeply troubling, [54:22] and the American people [54:23] deserve better. [54:25] I'll give you one minute [54:26] to respond, Mr. President. [54:26] Let me just tell you [54:27] about world leaders. [54:28] Viktor Orban, [54:29] one of the most respected men, [54:31] they call him a strong man, [54:32] he's a tough person, [54:34] smart, [54:35] prime minister of Hungary. [54:37] They said, [54:37] why is the whole world blowing up? [54:39] Three years ago, it wasn't. [54:40] Why is it blowing up? [54:42] He said, [54:43] because you need Trump back as president. [54:46] They were afraid of him. [54:48] China was afraid, [54:49] and I don't like to use the word afraid, [54:50] but I'm just quoting him. [54:52] China was afraid of him. [54:53] North Korea was afraid of him. [54:55] Look at what's going on [54:56] with North Korea, by the way. [54:58] He said Russia was afraid of him. [55:00] I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, [55:02] and Biden put it back on day one, [55:04] but he ended the XL pipeline. [55:06] The XL pipeline in our country, [55:10] he ended that, [55:11] but he let the Russians build a pipeline [55:12] going all over Europe [55:13] and heading into Germany, [55:15] the biggest pipeline in the world. [55:17] Look, Viktor Orban said it. [55:20] He said the most respected, [55:22] most feared person is Donald Trump. [55:25] We had no problems [55:26] when Trump was president, [55:28] but when this weak, pathetic man [55:31] that you saw at a debate [55:32] just a few months ago, [55:34] that if he weren't in that debate, [55:35] he'd be running instead of hers, [55:36] she got no votes. [55:37] He got 14 million votes. [55:39] What you did, [55:39] you talk about a threat to democracy. [55:42] He got 14 million votes, [55:43] and they threw him out of office. [55:45] And you know what? [55:46] I'll give you a little secret. [55:47] He hates her. [55:48] He can't stand her. [55:49] But he got 14 million votes. [55:51] They threw him out. [55:53] She got zero votes. [55:54] And when she ran, [55:56] she was the first one to leave [55:57] because she failed. [55:59] And now she's running. [56:00] I don't understand it, [56:01] but I'm okay with it [56:02] because I think we're going to do very well. [56:04] We've got a lot more to get to. [56:05] Turning now to the Israel-Hamas war [56:07] and the hostages [56:08] who are still being held, [56:09] Americans among them. [56:11] Vice President Harris, [56:12] in December, you said, [56:13] quote, [56:14] Israel has a right to defend itself, [56:15] but you added, quote, [56:17] it matters how, [56:18] saying international humanitarian law [56:20] must be respected. [56:21] Israel must do more [56:22] to protect innocent civilians. [56:24] You said that nine months ago. [56:26] Now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead. [56:29] Nearly 100 hostages remain. [56:32] Just last week, [56:32] Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said [56:34] there's not a deal in the making. [56:36] President Biden has not been able [56:38] to break through the stalemate. [56:39] How would you do it? [56:41] Well, let's understand how we got here. [56:44] On October 7, [56:46] Hamas, a terrorist organization, [56:51] slaughtered 1,200 Israelis. [56:53] Many of them young people [56:55] who were simply attending a concert. [56:58] Women were horribly raped. [57:00] And so absolutely, [57:01] I said then, I say now, [57:03] Israel has a right to defend itself. [57:05] We would. [57:07] And how it does so matters. [57:09] Because it is also true, [57:11] far too many innocent Palestinians [57:14] have been killed. [57:15] Children, mothers. [57:17] What we know is that [57:19] this war must end. [57:22] It must end immediately. [57:24] And the way it will end [57:26] is we need a ceasefire deal [57:27] and we need the hostages out. [57:30] And so we will continue [57:31] to work around the clock on that. [57:34] Work around the clock [57:35] also understanding [57:36] that we must chart a course [57:38] for a two-state solution. [57:40] And in that solution, [57:42] there must be security [57:44] for the Israeli people and Israel [57:46] and in equal measure [57:47] for the Palestinians. [57:48] But the one thing [57:49] I will assure you always, [57:51] I will always give Israel [57:53] the ability to defend itself, [57:55] in particular as it relates to Iran [57:58] and any threat that Iran [58:00] and its proxies pose to Israel. [58:02] But we must have a two-state solution [58:04] where we can rebuild Gaza, [58:07] where the Palestinians [58:08] have security, self-determination, [58:11] and the dignity [58:12] they so rightly deserve. [58:13] President Trump, [58:15] how would you negotiate [58:16] with Netanyahu [58:17] and also Hamas [58:19] in order to get the hostages out [58:20] and prevent the killing [58:21] of more innocent civilians in Gaza? [58:24] If I were president, [58:25] it would have never started. [58:26] If I were president, [58:28] Russia would have never, ever, [58:30] I know Putin very well, [58:32] he would have never, [58:33] and there was no threat of it either, [58:34] by the way, for four years, [58:35] have gone into Ukraine [58:36] and killed millions of people [58:39] when you add it up. [58:40] Far worse than people understand [58:41] what's going on over there. [58:42] But when she mentions about Israel, [58:45] all of a sudden, [58:47] she hates Israel. [58:48] She wouldn't even meet [58:49] with Netanyahu [58:51] when he went to Congress [58:52] to make a very important speech. [58:53] She refused to be there [58:54] because she was at [58:55] a sorority party of hers. [58:57] She wanted to go [58:58] to the sorority party. [59:00] She hates Israel. [59:01] If she's president, [59:02] I believe that Israel [59:03] will not exist [59:05] within two years from now. [59:06] And I've been pretty good [59:07] at predictions, [59:07] and I hope I'm wrong [59:08] about that one. [59:09] She hates Israel. [59:10] At the same time, [59:12] in her own way, [59:13] she hates the Arab population [59:15] because the whole place [59:18] is going to get blown up. [59:20] Arabs, Jewish people, Israel. [59:23] Israel will be gone. [59:25] It would have never happened. [59:27] Iran was broke under Donald Trump. [59:29] Now Iran has $300 billion [59:32] because they took off [59:33] all the sanctions that I had. [59:35] Iran had no money [59:36] for Hamas or Hezbollah [59:38] or any of the 28 different [59:39] spheres of terror. [59:42] And they are spheres of terror, [59:44] horrible terror. [59:45] They had no money. [59:46] It was a big story, [59:47] and you know it. [59:48] You covered it very well, actually. [59:50] They had no money for terror. [59:52] They were broke. [59:54] Now they're a rich nation, [59:55] and now what they're doing [59:57] is they're spreading [59:58] that money around. [59:58] Look at what's happening [1:00:00] with the Houthis and Yemen. [1:00:03] Look at what's going on [1:00:04] in the Middle East. [1:00:05] This would have never happened. [1:00:07] I will get that settled and fast, [1:00:09] and I'll get the war [1:00:10] with Ukraine and Russia ended. [1:00:12] If I'm president-elect, [1:00:14] I'll get it done [1:00:15] before even becoming president. [1:00:17] Vice President Harris, [1:00:19] he says you hate Israel. [1:00:20] That's absolutely not true. [1:00:22] I have my entire career [1:00:24] and life supported Israel [1:00:26] and the Israeli people. [1:00:28] He knows that. [1:00:29] He's trying to, again, [1:00:30] divide and distract [1:00:32] from the reality, [1:00:34] which is it is very well known [1:00:36] that Donald Trump is weak [1:00:38] and wrong on national security [1:00:40] and foreign policy. [1:00:41] It is well known [1:00:42] that he admires dictators, [1:00:45] wants to be a dictator [1:00:46] on day one. [1:00:47] And according to himself, [1:00:49] it is well known [1:00:50] that he said of Putin [1:00:52] that he can do whatever [1:00:55] the hell he wants [1:00:56] and go into Ukraine. [1:00:58] It is well known [1:00:59] that he said [1:01:00] when Russia went into Ukraine, [1:01:02] it was brilliant. [1:01:04] It is well known [1:01:05] he exchanged love letters [1:01:07] with Kim Jong-un. [1:01:09] And it is absolutely well known [1:01:12] that these dictators [1:01:13] and autocrats are rooting [1:01:15] for you to be president again [1:01:17] because they're so clear [1:01:19] they can manipulate you [1:01:21] with flattery and favors. [1:01:23] And that is why [1:01:25] so many military leaders [1:01:28] who you have worked with [1:01:29] have told me [1:01:30] you are a disgrace. [1:01:32] That is why [1:01:33] we understand [1:01:34] that we have to have [1:01:36] a president [1:01:37] who is not consistently [1:01:38] weak and wrong [1:01:40] on national security, [1:01:41] including the importance [1:01:42] of upholding [1:01:43] and respecting [1:01:44] in highest regard [1:01:46] our military. [1:01:46] Vice President Harris, [1:01:47] thank you. [1:01:48] They're the ones, [1:01:49] and she's the one [1:01:50] that caused it, [1:01:51] that's weak [1:01:52] on national security [1:01:53] by allowing every nation [1:01:55] last month [1:01:56] for the year, [1:01:57] 168 different countries [1:01:59] sending people [1:02:00] into our country. [1:02:01] Their crime weights [1:02:02] are way down. [1:02:03] Putin endorsed her last week, [1:02:05] said, [1:02:06] I hope she wins. [1:02:07] And I think he meant it [1:02:07] because what he's gotten away with [1:02:10] is absolutely incredible. [1:02:11] It wouldn't have happened with me. [1:02:13] The leaders of other countries [1:02:15] think that they're weak [1:02:16] and incompetent, [1:02:18] and they are. [1:02:19] They're grossly incompetent. [1:02:20] And I just ask one question. [1:02:22] Why does Biden go in [1:02:23] and kill the Keystone pipeline [1:02:25] and approve [1:02:26] the single biggest deal [1:02:28] that Russia's ever made, [1:02:29] Nord Stream 2, [1:02:30] the biggest pipeline [1:02:31] anywhere in the world [1:02:32] going to Germany [1:02:33] and all over Europe? [1:02:34] Because they're weak [1:02:35] and they're ineffective. [1:02:37] And Biden, by the way, [1:02:38] gets paid a lot of money. [1:02:39] Thank you. [1:02:39] We have a lot of issues [1:02:40] to get to. [1:02:41] We'll be right back [1:02:41] with much more [1:02:42] of this historic [1:02:43] ABC News presidential debate [1:02:44] from the National Constitution Center [1:02:46] right here in Philadelphia. [1:02:47] Back in a moment. 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[1:06:42] Dancing with the Stars [1:06:54] premieres live [1:06:55] on ABC and Disney+, [1:06:56] next day on Hulu. [1:06:58] You look like someone [1:06:59] who's ready to make history. [1:07:00] I am! [1:07:02] Tonight, [1:07:03] miss me how you like. [1:07:05] I've been waiting. [1:07:07] I am ready [1:07:08] to find the next great love [1:07:09] of my life. [1:07:09] You're my favorite. [1:07:10] Life is better [1:07:12] when you share it [1:07:12] with somebody else. [1:07:14] Everybody deserves [1:07:15] to have love in their life. [1:07:16] I deserve it, too. [1:07:17] You're my favorite. [1:07:18] I truly believe [1:07:21] that I could find love. [1:07:25] Kind of high. [1:07:26] Live from the National [1:07:37] Constitution Center [1:07:39] in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, [1:07:41] here again, [1:07:42] David Muir and Lindsay Davis. [1:07:45] Welcome back [1:07:45] to this historic [1:07:46] ABC News presidential debate tonight. [1:07:48] We're going to continue here, [1:07:49] and I want to turn to the war in Ukraine. [1:07:50] We're now two and a half years [1:07:51] into this conflict. [1:07:53] Mr. President, [1:07:53] it has been the position [1:07:54] of the Biden administration [1:07:55] that we must defend Ukraine [1:07:57] from Russia, [1:07:58] from Vladimir Putin, [1:07:59] to defend their sovereignty, [1:08:00] their democracy, [1:08:01] that it's in America's [1:08:02] best interest to do so, [1:08:03] arguing that if Putin wins, [1:08:05] he may be emboldened [1:08:06] to move even further [1:08:07] into other countries. [1:08:08] You have said [1:08:09] you would solve this war [1:08:10] in 24 hours. [1:08:11] You said so just [1:08:12] before the break tonight. [1:08:13] How exactly would you do that? [1:08:15] And I want to ask you [1:08:15] a very simple question tonight. [1:08:17] Do you want Ukraine [1:08:18] to win this war? [1:08:20] I want the war to stop. [1:08:21] I want to save lives [1:08:23] that are being uselessly, [1:08:25] people being killed [1:08:26] by the millions. [1:08:27] It's the millions. [1:08:28] It's so much worse [1:08:29] than the numbers [1:08:30] that you're getting, [1:08:31] which are fake numbers. [1:08:33] Look, we're in [1:08:34] for $250 billion or more [1:08:36] because they don't ask Europe, [1:08:39] which is a much bigger beneficiary [1:08:41] to getting this thing done [1:08:42] than we are. [1:08:44] They're in for $150 billion less [1:08:47] because Biden and you [1:08:48] don't have the courage [1:08:50] to ask Europe [1:08:51] like I did with NATO. [1:08:53] They paid billions and billions, [1:08:55] hundreds of billions of dollars [1:08:57] when I said, [1:08:58] either you pay up [1:08:59] or we're not going [1:08:59] to protect you anymore. [1:09:00] So that's maybe one of the reasons [1:09:02] they don't like me [1:09:03] as much as they like weak people. [1:09:05] But you take a look [1:09:06] at what's happening. [1:09:08] We're in for $250 to $275 billion. [1:09:11] They're in to $100 to $150. [1:09:14] They should be forced to equalize. [1:09:17] With that being said, [1:09:18] I want to get the war settled. [1:09:20] I know Zelensky very well [1:09:21] and I know Putin very well. [1:09:23] I have a good relationship [1:09:24] and they respect your president. [1:09:26] They respect me. [1:09:28] They don't respect Biden. [1:09:29] How would you respect him? [1:09:30] Why? [1:09:31] For what reason? [1:09:32] He hasn't even made a phone call [1:09:33] in two years to Putin. [1:09:35] Hasn't spoken to anybody. [1:09:36] They don't even try and get it. [1:09:38] That is a war [1:09:38] that's dying to be settled. [1:09:40] I will get it settled [1:09:41] before I even become president. [1:09:43] If I win, [1:09:44] when I'm president-elect, [1:09:46] and what I'll do [1:09:47] is I'll speak to one, [1:09:48] I'll speak to the other, [1:09:49] I'll get them together, [1:09:50] that war would have never happened. [1:09:52] And in fact, [1:09:53] when I saw Putin after I left, [1:09:56] unfortunately left [1:09:57] because our country has gone to hell, [1:10:00] but after I left, [1:10:00] when I saw him building up soldiers, [1:10:02] he did it after I left, [1:10:04] I said, [1:10:04] oh, he must be negotiating. [1:10:07] It must be a good, [1:10:08] strong point of negotiation. [1:10:09] Well, it wasn't [1:10:10] because Biden had no idea [1:10:12] how to talk to him. [1:10:13] He had no idea how to stop it. [1:10:15] And now you have millions of people dead [1:10:17] and it's only getting worse [1:10:19] and it could lead to World War III. [1:10:21] Don't kid yourself, David. [1:10:22] We're playing with World War III [1:10:24] and we have a president [1:10:25] that we don't even know if he's... [1:10:26] Where is our president? [1:10:28] We don't even know if he's a president. [1:10:29] And just to clarify here... [1:10:30] They threw him out of a campaign like a dog. [1:10:33] We don't even know. [1:10:34] Is he our president? [1:10:35] But we have a president... [1:10:36] Mr. President... [1:10:37] ...that doesn't know he's alive. [1:10:38] Your time is up. [1:10:39] Just to clarify on the question, [1:10:41] do you believe it's in the U.S. best interest [1:10:44] for Ukraine to win this war? [1:10:45] Yes or no? [1:10:45] I think it's the U.S. best interest [1:10:47] to get this war finished [1:10:48] and just get it done. [1:10:50] All right. [1:10:50] Negotiate a deal [1:10:51] because we have to stop [1:10:53] all of these human lives [1:10:54] from being destroyed. [1:10:56] I want to take this to Vice President Harris. [1:10:58] I want to get your thoughts [1:10:58] on support for Ukraine in this moment. [1:11:01] But also, as commander-in-chief, [1:11:03] if elected, [1:11:04] how would you deal with Vladimir Putin [1:11:06] and would it be any different [1:11:07] from what we're seeing from President Biden? [1:11:09] Well, first of all, [1:11:11] it's important to remind the former president [1:11:13] you're not running against Joe Biden, [1:11:14] you're running against me. [1:11:15] I believe the reason that Donald Trump says [1:11:19] that this war would be over within 24 hours [1:11:22] is because he would just give it up. [1:11:24] And that's not who we are as Americans. [1:11:26] Let's understand what happened here. [1:11:28] I actually met with Zelensky [1:11:30] a few days before Russia invaded, [1:11:34] tried through force [1:11:36] to change territorial boundaries, [1:11:38] to defy one of the most important [1:11:40] international rules and norms, [1:11:42] which is the importance of sovereignty [1:11:44] and territorial integrity. [1:11:46] And I met with President Zelensky. [1:11:48] I shared with him American intelligence [1:11:49] about how he could defend himself. [1:11:52] Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank, [1:11:55] to Poland and Romania. [1:11:57] And through the work that I and others did, [1:11:59] we brought 50 countries together [1:12:01] to support Ukraine in its righteous defense. [1:12:05] And because of our support, [1:12:07] because of the air defense, [1:12:10] the ammunition, the artillery, [1:12:12] the javelins, the Abrams tanks [1:12:14] that we have provided, [1:12:15] Ukraine stands as an independent [1:12:17] and free country. [1:12:19] If Donald Trump were president, [1:12:20] Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now. [1:12:23] And understand what that would mean, [1:12:25] because Putin's agenda [1:12:26] is not just about Ukraine. [1:12:29] Understand why the European allies [1:12:31] and our NATO allies [1:12:33] are so thankful [1:12:34] that you are no longer president [1:12:36] and that we understand [1:12:39] the importance of the greatest military alliance [1:12:42] the world has ever known, [1:12:43] which is NATO, [1:12:44] and what we have done [1:12:45] to preserve the ability of Zelensky [1:12:48] and the Ukrainians [1:12:49] to fight for their independence. [1:12:51] Otherwise, Putin would be sitting in Kiev [1:12:54] with his eyes on the rest of Europe, [1:12:57] starting with Poland. [1:12:58] And why don't you tell [1:12:58] the 800,000 Polish Americans [1:13:00] right here in Pennsylvania [1:13:02] how quickly you would give up [1:13:04] for the sake of favor [1:13:06] and what you think is a friendship [1:13:08] with what is known to be a dictator [1:13:11] who would eat you for lunch. [1:13:13] Vice President Harris, thank you. [1:13:15] We've heard from both of you [1:13:16] on Ukraine tonight. [1:13:17] Afghanistan came up in the last hour. [1:13:19] I wanted her to respond [1:13:20] to something you said earlier. [1:13:22] And please, I'll give you a minute here. [1:13:25] Putin would be sitting in Moscow [1:13:27] and he wouldn't have lost [1:13:28] 300,000 men and women, [1:13:31] but he would have been sitting in Moscow... [1:13:33] Quiet, please. [1:13:34] He would have been sitting in Moscow [1:13:37] much happier than he is right now. [1:13:39] But eventually, you know, [1:13:41] he's got a thing that other people don't have. [1:13:43] He's got nuclear weapons. [1:13:44] They don't ever talk about that. [1:13:45] He's got nuclear weapons. [1:13:47] Nobody ever thinks about that. [1:13:48] And eventually, maybe he'll use them [1:13:51] and maybe he hasn't been that threatening, [1:13:53] but he does have that. [1:13:55] Something we don't even like to talk about. [1:13:57] Nobody likes to talk about it. [1:13:58] But just so you understand, [1:14:00] they sent her to negotiate peace [1:14:02] before this war started. [1:14:04] Three days later, he went in [1:14:06] and he started the war [1:14:07] because everything they said [1:14:09] was weak and stupid. [1:14:11] They said the wrong things. [1:14:13] That war should have never started. [1:14:14] She was the emissary. [1:14:16] They sent her in to negotiate [1:14:17] with Zelensky and Putin. [1:14:20] And she did. [1:14:21] And the war started three days later. [1:14:23] And that's the kind of talent we have with her. [1:14:26] She's worse than Biden, in my opinion. [1:14:28] I think he's the worst president [1:14:29] in the history of our country. [1:14:31] She goes down as the worst vice president [1:14:33] in the history of our country. [1:14:35] But let me tell you something. [1:14:36] She is a horrible negotiator. [1:14:39] They sent her in to negotiate [1:14:40] as soon as they left. [1:14:42] Putin did the invasion. [1:14:44] President Trump, thank you. [1:14:44] You did bring up something. [1:14:45] You said she went to negotiate [1:14:46] with Vladimir Putin. [1:14:47] Vice President Harris, [1:14:48] have you ever met Vladimir Putin? [1:14:50] Can you clarify tonight? [1:14:51] Yet again, I said it at the beginning [1:14:52] of this debate, [1:14:53] you're going to hear a bunch of lies [1:14:54] coming from this fellow. [1:14:55] And that is another one. [1:14:57] When I went to meet with President Zelensky, [1:14:59] I've now met with him over five times. [1:15:01] The reality is, it has been about standing [1:15:05] as America always should, [1:15:08] as a leader upholding international rules and norms, [1:15:12] as a leader who shows strength, [1:15:15] understanding that the alliances we have [1:15:17] around the world are dependent on our ability [1:15:21] to look out for our friends [1:15:23] and not favor our enemies [1:15:26] because you adore strongmen [1:15:28] instead of caring about democracy. [1:15:31] And that is very much what is at stake here. [1:15:34] The President of the United States [1:15:36] is Commander-in-Chief, [1:15:37] and the American people [1:15:39] have a right to rely on a President [1:15:42] who understands the significance [1:15:45] of America's role and responsibility [1:15:48] in terms of ensuring that there is stability [1:15:51] and ensuring we stand up for our principles [1:15:54] and not sell them [1:15:55] for the benefit of personal flattery. [1:15:59] We've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin. [1:16:02] I do want to talk about Afghanistan. [1:16:03] It came up in the first hour of this debate. [1:16:06] I want to move on to Afghanistan. [1:16:07] General Stoltenberg said Trump [1:16:08] did the most amazing thing I've ever seen. [1:16:11] He got these countries, [1:16:13] the 28 countries at the time, [1:16:15] to pay up. [1:16:16] He said, I've never seen. [1:16:17] He's the head of NATO. [1:16:18] He said, I've never seen. [1:16:19] For years, we were paying almost all of NATO. [1:16:22] We were being ripped off by European nations, [1:16:25] both on trade and on NATO. [1:16:27] I got them to pay up [1:16:28] by saying one of the statements you made before, [1:16:31] if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you. [1:16:34] Otherwise, we would have never gotten it. [1:16:35] He said it was one of the most incredible jobs [1:16:38] that he's ever seen done. [1:16:39] Thank you. [1:16:40] I want to turn to Afghanistan. [1:16:41] It came up in the first hour of the debate, [1:16:43] and we witnessed a poignant moment today [1:16:45] on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers [1:16:46] who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. [1:16:49] I do want to ask the vice president, [1:16:51] do you believe you bear any responsibility [1:16:53] in the way that withdrawal played out? [1:16:56] Well, I will tell you, [1:16:57] I agreed with President Biden's decision [1:16:59] to pull out of Afghanistan. [1:17:01] Four presidents said they would, [1:17:03] and Joe Biden did. [1:17:04] And as a result, [1:17:07] America's taxpayers are not paying [1:17:08] the $300 million a day. [1:17:10] We were paying for that endless war. [1:17:13] And as of today, [1:17:14] there is not one member [1:17:16] of the United States military [1:17:18] who is in active duty [1:17:20] in a combat zone, [1:17:21] in any war zone around the world, [1:17:23] the first time this century. [1:17:25] But let's understand how we got to where we are. [1:17:29] Donald Trump, when he was president, [1:17:31] negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine. [1:17:35] He calls himself a dealmaker. [1:17:37] Even his national security advisor said [1:17:39] it was a weak, terrible deal. [1:17:41] And here's how it went down. [1:17:43] He bypassed the Afghan government. [1:17:46] He negotiated directly [1:17:47] with a terrorist organization [1:17:49] called the Taliban. [1:17:50] The negotiation involved the Taliban [1:17:52] getting 5,000 terrorists, [1:17:55] Taliban terrorists released. [1:17:57] And get this, no, get this. [1:17:59] And the president at the time [1:18:02] invited the Taliban to Camp David, [1:18:05] a place of storied significance [1:18:08] for us as Americans, [1:18:09] a place where we honor [1:18:11] the importance of American diplomacy, [1:18:14] where we invite and receive [1:18:16] respected world leaders. [1:18:19] And this former president, [1:18:23] as president, [1:18:24] invited them to Camp David [1:18:27] because he does not again appreciate [1:18:30] the role and responsibility [1:18:33] of the president of the United States [1:18:36] to be commander-in-chief [1:18:38] with a level of respect. [1:18:40] And this gets back to the point [1:18:42] of how he has consistently disparaged [1:18:44] and demeaned members of our military, [1:18:47] fallen soldiers, [1:18:48] and the work that we must do [1:18:50] to uphold the strength [1:18:52] and the respect [1:18:53] of the United States of America [1:18:55] around the world. [1:18:56] Vice President Harris, thank you. [1:18:57] President Trump, [1:18:57] your response to her saying [1:18:59] that you began the negotiations [1:19:00] with the Taliban. [1:19:01] So if you take a look [1:19:03] at that period of time, [1:19:05] the Taliban was killing our soldiers, [1:19:08] a lot of them, with snipers. [1:19:10] And I got involved with the Taliban [1:19:13] because the Taliban [1:19:14] was doing the killing. [1:19:15] That's the fighting force [1:19:16] within Afghanistan. [1:19:18] They don't bother doing that [1:19:19] because, you know, [1:19:19] they deal with the wrong people [1:19:20] all the time. [1:19:21] But I got involved. [1:19:23] And Abdul is the head of the Taliban. [1:19:26] He is still the head of the Taliban. [1:19:28] And I told Abdul, [1:19:29] don't do it anymore. [1:19:30] You do it anymore. [1:19:31] You're going to have problems. [1:19:32] And he said, [1:19:33] why do you send me a picture of my house? [1:19:35] I said, [1:19:35] you're going to have to figure that out, Abdul. [1:19:37] And for 18 months, [1:19:39] we had nobody killed. [1:19:40] We did have an agreement [1:19:41] negotiated by Mike Pompeo. [1:19:43] It was a very good agreement. [1:19:44] The reason it was good, [1:19:47] it was, we were getting out. [1:19:48] We would have been out faster than them, [1:19:50] but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers. [1:19:51] We wouldn't have left many Americans behind. [1:19:53] And we wouldn't have left, [1:19:54] we wouldn't have left $85 billion worth [1:19:58] of brand new, beautiful military equipment behind. [1:20:01] And just to finish, [1:20:02] they blew it. [1:20:04] The agreement said, [1:20:06] you have to do this, this, this, this, this. [1:20:08] And they didn't do it. [1:20:10] They didn't do it. [1:20:10] The agreement was, was terminated by us [1:20:14] because they didn't do what they were supposed to do. [1:20:18] I want to move on. [1:20:18] And these people did the worst withdrawal. [1:20:21] And in my opinion, [1:20:23] the most embarrassing moment [1:20:24] in the history of our country. [1:20:25] And by the way, [1:20:26] that's why Russia attacked Ukraine, [1:20:29] because they saw how incompetent [1:20:31] she and her boss are. [1:20:33] President Trump, thank you. [1:20:34] I want to move on now [1:20:35] to race and politics in this country. [1:20:37] Mr. President, [1:20:38] you recently said of Vice President Harris, [1:20:40] quote, [1:20:40] I didn't know she was black [1:20:41] until a number of years ago [1:20:43] when she happened to turn black [1:20:44] and now she wants to be known as black. [1:20:47] I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight. [1:20:49] Why do you believe it's appropriate [1:20:51] to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent? [1:20:54] I don't. [1:20:54] And I don't care. [1:20:55] I don't care what she is. [1:20:57] I don't care. [1:20:58] You make a big deal out of something. [1:21:00] I couldn't care less. [1:21:02] Whatever she wants to be is okay with me. [1:21:04] But those were your words. [1:21:05] So I'm asking... [1:21:06] I don't know. [1:21:06] I don't know. [1:21:06] I mean, all I can say is [1:21:07] I read where she was not black [1:21:10] that she put out. [1:21:12] And I'll say that. [1:21:14] And then I read that she was black. [1:21:16] And that's okay. [1:21:17] Either one was okay with me. [1:21:19] That's up to her. [1:21:20] That's up to her. [1:21:21] Vice President Harris, [1:21:22] your thoughts on this? [1:21:24] I think it's... [1:21:25] I mean, honestly, [1:21:26] I think it's a tragedy [1:21:27] that we have someone [1:21:29] who wants to be president [1:21:31] who has consistently [1:21:33] over the course of his career [1:21:35] attempted to use race [1:21:37] to divide the American people. [1:21:40] You know, I do believe [1:21:41] that the vast majority of us know [1:21:42] that we have so much more in common [1:21:44] than what separates us. [1:21:44] And we don't want [1:21:45] this kind of approach [1:21:47] that is just constantly [1:21:48] trying to divide us, [1:21:50] and especially by race. [1:21:51] And let's remember [1:21:52] how Donald Trump started. [1:21:54] He was a... [1:21:55] a land... [1:21:56] land... [1:21:58] He owned land. [1:21:59] He owned buildings. [1:22:01] And he was investigated [1:22:02] because he refused [1:22:05] to rent property [1:22:07] to black families. [1:22:09] Let's remember, [1:22:09] this is the same individual [1:22:11] who took out a full-page ad [1:22:14] in the New York Times [1:22:15] calling for the execution [1:22:17] of five young black [1:22:20] and Latino boys [1:22:22] who were innocent, [1:22:23] the Central Park Five, [1:22:26] took out a full-page ad [1:22:28] calling for their execution. [1:22:30] This is the same individual [1:22:31] who spread birther lies [1:22:34] about the first black president [1:22:35] of the United States. [1:22:38] And I think the American people [1:22:39] want better than that, [1:22:42] want better than this, [1:22:45] want someone who understands [1:22:46] as I do, [1:22:47] I travel our country. [1:22:49] We see in each other a friend. [1:22:52] We see in each other a neighbor. [1:22:55] We don't want a leader [1:22:57] who is constantly trying [1:22:59] to have Americans [1:23:00] point their fingers at each other. [1:23:01] I meet with people all the time [1:23:04] who tell me, [1:23:06] can we please just have discourse [1:23:08] about how we're going to invest [1:23:11] in the aspirations [1:23:12] and the ambitions [1:23:13] and the dreams [1:23:14] of the American people, [1:23:15] knowing that regardless [1:23:17] of people's color [1:23:18] or the language [1:23:19] their grandmother speaks, [1:23:20] we all have the same dreams [1:23:22] and aspirations [1:23:23] and want a president [1:23:24] who invests in those, [1:23:26] not in hate and division. [1:23:28] Vice President Harris, [1:23:29] thank you. [1:23:29] Lindsey? [1:23:30] President Trump, [1:23:31] this is now your third time. [1:23:33] This is the most divisive presidency [1:23:36] in the history of our country. [1:23:38] There's never been anything like it. [1:23:40] They're destroying our country [1:23:41] and they come up with things [1:23:43] like what she just said. [1:23:46] Going back many, many years, [1:23:48] when a lot of people, [1:23:49] including Mayor Bloomberg, [1:23:50] agreed with me [1:23:51] on the Central Park Five, [1:23:52] they admitted, [1:23:53] they said, [1:23:54] they pled guilty. [1:23:55] And I said, [1:23:56] well, if they pled guilty, [1:23:58] they'd badly hurt a person, [1:23:59] killed a person ultimately. [1:24:01] And if they pled guilty, [1:24:02] then they pled, [1:24:03] we're not guilty. [1:24:05] But this is a person [1:24:06] that has to stretch back [1:24:08] years, 40, 50 years ago, [1:24:10] because there's nothing now. [1:24:12] I built one of the greatest economies [1:24:14] in the history of the world [1:24:16] and I'm going to build it again. [1:24:17] It's going to be bigger, [1:24:18] better and stronger. [1:24:20] But they're destroying our economy. [1:24:22] They have no idea [1:24:23] what a good economy is. [1:24:24] Their oil policies, [1:24:26] every single policy. [1:24:27] And remember this, [1:24:28] she is Biden. [1:24:30] You know, [1:24:30] she's trying to get away from Biden. [1:24:32] I don't know the gentleman. [1:24:33] She says, [1:24:34] she is Biden. [1:24:35] The worst inflation we've ever had. [1:24:38] A horrible economy [1:24:39] because inflation has made it so bad [1:24:42] that she can't get away with that. [1:24:44] Thank you. [1:24:44] Your time is up. [1:24:45] I want to briefly, [1:24:49] clearly, [1:24:49] I am not Joe Biden [1:24:51] and I am certainly not Donald Trump. [1:24:54] And what I do offer [1:24:56] is a new generation of leadership [1:24:57] for our country. [1:24:59] One who believes [1:25:00] in what is possible. [1:25:02] One who brings a sense of optimism [1:25:04] about what we can do [1:25:06] instead of always disparaging [1:25:08] the American people. [1:25:10] I believe in what we can do [1:25:13] to strengthen our small businesses, [1:25:16] which is why I have a plan. [1:25:18] Let's talk about our plans [1:25:19] and let's compare the plans. [1:25:22] I have a plan [1:25:24] to give startup businesses [1:25:26] $50,000 tax deduction [1:25:29] to pursue their ambitions, [1:25:32] their innovation, [1:25:33] their ideas, [1:25:34] their hard work. [1:25:35] I have a plan, [1:25:36] $6,000 for young families [1:25:39] for the first year [1:25:40] of your child's life [1:25:41] to help you [1:25:42] in that most critical stage [1:25:44] of your child's development. [1:25:45] I have a plan [1:25:46] that is about allowing people [1:25:49] to be able to pursue [1:25:50] what has been fleeting [1:25:51] in terms of the American dream [1:25:53] by offering a help [1:25:55] with down payment [1:25:56] of $25,000 down payment assistance [1:25:59] for first-time homebuyers. [1:26:01] That's the kind of conversation, [1:26:03] I believe, David, [1:26:04] that people really want tonight, [1:26:06] as opposed to a conversation [1:26:07] that is constantly [1:26:08] about belittling [1:26:10] and name-calling. [1:26:12] Let's turn the page [1:26:14] and move forward. [1:26:15] Vice President Harris, thank you. [1:26:15] Let's turn to policy. [1:26:16] Let's turn back to policy. [1:26:17] She has a plan [1:26:21] to defund the police. [1:26:23] She has a plan [1:26:24] to confiscate everybody's gun. [1:26:26] She has a plan [1:26:28] to not allow fracking [1:26:29] in Pennsylvania [1:26:30] or anywhere else. [1:26:32] That's what her plan is [1:26:33] until just recently. [1:26:34] I just need to respond. [1:26:35] President Trump, [1:26:35] President Trump... [1:26:36] The former president [1:26:37] has said something twice [1:26:38] that I need to respond to. [1:26:39] No, I'm sorry. [1:26:39] We're going to move on, [1:26:41] Vice President Harris. [1:26:41] One time to what he has said [1:26:42] multiple times. [1:26:43] President Trump, this is now [1:26:43] your third time running [1:26:44] for president. [1:26:45] You have long vowed [1:26:46] to repeal and replace [1:26:47] the Affordable Care Act, [1:26:49] also known as Obamacare. [1:26:50] You have failed [1:26:51] to accomplish that. [1:26:52] You now say [1:26:53] you're going to keep Obamacare, [1:26:54] quote, [1:26:55] unless we can do something [1:26:56] much better. [1:26:57] Last month, you said, [1:26:58] quote, [1:26:58] we're working on it. [1:26:59] So tonight, [1:27:00] nine years after you first [1:27:02] started running, [1:27:02] do you have a plan [1:27:03] and can you tell us [1:27:05] what it is? [1:27:05] Obamacare was lousy [1:27:07] health care. [1:27:07] Always was. [1:27:08] It's not very good today. [1:27:10] And what I said, [1:27:11] that if we come up [1:27:12] with something [1:27:13] and we are working on things, [1:27:14] we're going to do it [1:27:15] and we're going to replace it. [1:27:16] But remember this, [1:27:18] I inherited Obamacare [1:27:19] because Democrats [1:27:20] wouldn't change it. [1:27:22] They wouldn't vote for it. [1:27:23] They were unanimous. [1:27:24] They wouldn't vote [1:27:24] to change it. [1:27:25] If they would have done that, [1:27:26] we would have had [1:27:27] a much better plan [1:27:28] than Obamacare. [1:27:29] But the Democrats came up, [1:27:31] they wouldn't vote for it. [1:27:33] I had a choice to make [1:27:34] when I was president. [1:27:35] Do I save it [1:27:36] and make it as good [1:27:37] as it can be, [1:27:38] never going to be great, [1:27:39] or do I let it rot? [1:27:41] And I felt I had [1:27:42] an obligation, [1:27:43] even though politically [1:27:44] it would have been good [1:27:45] to just let it rot [1:27:46] and let it go away. [1:27:48] I decided, [1:27:48] and I told my people, [1:27:49] the top people, [1:27:50] and they're very good people. [1:27:51] I have a lot of good people [1:27:52] in that administration. [1:27:54] We read about the bad ones. [1:27:55] We had some real bad ones, too, [1:27:57] and so do they. [1:27:58] They have really bad ones. [1:27:59] The difference is [1:27:59] they don't get rid of them. [1:28:00] But let me just explain. [1:28:01] I had a choice to make. [1:28:03] Do I save it [1:28:04] and make it as good [1:28:05] as it can be, [1:28:06] or do I let it rot? [1:28:08] And I saved it. [1:28:09] I did the right thing. [1:28:10] But it's still never [1:28:12] going to be great, [1:28:13] and it's too expensive [1:28:14] for people. [1:28:15] And what we will do [1:28:16] is we're looking [1:28:17] at different plans. [1:28:19] If we can come up [1:28:20] with a plan [1:28:20] that's going to cost [1:28:21] our people, [1:28:22] our population, [1:28:24] less money, [1:28:24] and be better healthcare [1:28:26] than Obamacare, [1:28:27] then I would absolutely do it. [1:28:29] But until then, [1:28:30] I'd run it [1:28:30] as good as it can be run. [1:28:32] So just a yes or no, [1:28:33] you still do not have a plan? [1:28:35] I have concepts of a plan. [1:28:37] I'm not president right now. [1:28:39] But if we come up [1:28:41] with something, [1:28:42] I would only change it [1:28:43] if we come up [1:28:43] with something [1:28:44] that's better [1:28:45] and less expensive. [1:28:46] And there are concepts [1:28:47] and options [1:28:48] we have to do that. [1:28:50] And you'll be hearing [1:28:51] about it [1:28:52] in the not-too-distant future. [1:28:53] Vice President Harris, [1:28:54] in 2017, [1:28:55] you supported [1:28:56] Bernie Sanders' proposal [1:28:57] to do away [1:28:58] with private insurance [1:28:58] and create a government-run [1:29:00] healthcare system. [1:29:01] Two years later, [1:29:02] you proposed a plan [1:29:02] that included [1:29:03] a private insurance option. [1:29:05] What is your plan today? [1:29:07] Well, first of all, [1:29:07] I absolutely support [1:29:09] and over the last four years [1:29:10] as vice president [1:29:11] private healthcare options. [1:29:13] But what we need to do [1:29:14] is maintain [1:29:14] and grow the Affordable Care Act. [1:29:16] But I'll get to that, Lindsay. [1:29:17] I just need to respond [1:29:18] to a previous point [1:29:19] that the former president [1:29:21] has made. [1:29:21] I've made very clear [1:29:22] my position on fracking. [1:29:24] And then this business [1:29:25] about taking everyone's guns away. [1:29:27] Tim Walz and I [1:29:28] are both gun owners. [1:29:28] We're not taking [1:29:29] anybody's guns away. [1:29:30] So stop with the continuous lying [1:29:32] about this stuff. [1:29:33] As it relates [1:29:34] to the Affordable Care Act, [1:29:35] understand, [1:29:36] just look at the history [1:29:37] to know where people stand. [1:29:39] When Donald Trump [1:29:40] was president, [1:29:41] 60 times he tried [1:29:43] to get rid [1:29:43] of the Affordable Care Act. [1:29:45] 60 times. [1:29:46] I was a senator [1:29:47] at the time [1:29:48] when I will never forget [1:29:50] the early morning [1:29:51] hours [1:29:52] when it was up [1:29:53] for a vote [1:29:54] in the United States Senate [1:29:55] and the late, great [1:29:57] John McCain, [1:29:58] who you have disparaged [1:30:00] as being, [1:30:02] you don't like him, [1:30:04] you said at the time [1:30:05] because he got caught. [1:30:07] He was an American hero. [1:30:08] The late, great John McCain, [1:30:10] I will never forget that night, [1:30:12] walked onto the Senate floor [1:30:13] and said, [1:30:15] no, you don't. [1:30:16] No, you don't. [1:30:17] No, you don't get rid [1:30:18] of the Affordable Care Act. [1:30:19] You have no plan. [1:30:21] And what the Affordable Care Act [1:30:23] has done [1:30:23] is eliminate the ability [1:30:25] of insurance companies [1:30:26] to deny people [1:30:27] with preexisting conditions. [1:30:29] I don't have to tell [1:30:29] the people watching tonight, [1:30:30] you remember what that was like? [1:30:33] Remember when an insurance company [1:30:34] could deny [1:30:35] if a child had asthma, [1:30:38] if someone was [1:30:39] a breast cancer survivor, [1:30:40] if a grandparent had diabetes? [1:30:43] And thankfully, [1:30:44] as I've been vice president, [1:30:46] and we over the last four years [1:30:48] have strengthened [1:30:48] the Affordable Care Act, [1:30:50] we have allowed [1:30:50] for the first time [1:30:51] Medicare to negotiate [1:30:52] drug prices [1:30:53] on behalf of you, [1:30:54] the American people. [1:30:56] Donald Trump said [1:30:56] he was going to allow [1:30:57] Medicare to negotiate [1:30:58] drug prices. [1:30:59] He never did. [1:31:00] We did. [1:31:01] And now we have capped [1:31:02] the cost of insulin [1:31:02] at $35 a month. [1:31:04] Since I've been vice president, [1:31:05] we have capped the cost [1:31:07] of prescription medication [1:31:08] for seniors [1:31:08] at $2,000 a year. [1:31:10] And when I am president, [1:31:11] we will do that [1:31:12] for all people, [1:31:13] understanding that [1:31:14] the value I bring to this [1:31:16] is that access to health care [1:31:19] should be a right [1:31:20] and not just a privilege [1:31:22] of those who can afford it. [1:31:23] And the plan has to be [1:31:25] to strengthen [1:31:26] the Affordable Care Act, [1:31:28] not get rid of it, [1:31:29] pass this prologue [1:31:30] in terms of where [1:31:31] Donald Trump stands on that. [1:31:32] I want to move to an issue [1:31:33] that's important for a lot of... [1:31:35] She made a mistake. [1:31:36] Number one, [1:31:38] John McCain fought Obamacare [1:31:39] for 10 years, [1:31:40] but it wasn't only him. [1:31:42] It was all of the [1:31:43] Democrats [1:31:44] that kept it going. [1:31:46] And you know what? [1:31:48] We can do much better [1:31:49] than Obamacare, [1:31:50] much less money. [1:31:51] But she won't improve [1:31:52] private insurance for people, [1:31:55] private medical insurance. [1:31:57] That's another thing [1:31:57] she doesn't want to give. [1:31:58] People are paying privately [1:31:59] for insurance [1:32:00] that have worked hard [1:32:02] and made money [1:32:03] and they want to have private. [1:32:04] She wants everybody [1:32:05] to be on government insurance [1:32:07] where you wait six months [1:32:09] for an operation [1:32:10] that you need immediately. [1:32:10] President Trump, thank you. [1:32:12] We have another issue [1:32:12] that we'd like to get to [1:32:13] that's important [1:32:14] for a number of Americans, [1:32:15] in particular younger voters, [1:32:17] and that's climate change. [1:32:18] President Trump, [1:32:19] with regard to the environment, [1:32:20] you say that we have [1:32:21] to have clean air [1:32:22] and clean water. [1:32:23] Vice President Harris, [1:32:24] you call climate change [1:32:26] an existential threat. [1:32:27] The question to you both tonight [1:32:29] is what would you do [1:32:30] to fight climate change? [1:32:32] And Vice President Harris, [1:32:33] we'll start with you. [1:32:34] One minute for you each. [1:32:35] Well, the former president [1:32:36] had said that climate change [1:32:38] is a hoax. [1:32:39] And what we know [1:32:40] is that it is very real. [1:32:42] You ask anyone [1:32:43] who lives in a state [1:32:44] who has experienced [1:32:45] these extreme weather occurrences, [1:32:47] who now is either being denied [1:32:49] home insurance [1:32:49] or it's being jacked up. [1:32:51] You ask anybody [1:32:52] who has been the victim [1:32:54] of what that means [1:32:55] in terms of losing their home, [1:32:57] having nowhere to go. [1:32:59] We know that we can actually [1:33:01] deal with this issue. [1:33:02] The young people of America [1:33:03] care deeply about this issue. [1:33:05] And I am proud [1:33:06] that as Vice President [1:33:07] over the last four years, [1:33:08] we have invested [1:33:09] a trillion dollars [1:33:10] in a clean energy economy [1:33:12] while we have also [1:33:13] increased domestic gas production [1:33:16] to historic levels. [1:33:18] We have created [1:33:19] over 800,000 [1:33:20] new manufacturing jobs [1:33:21] while I have been Vice President. [1:33:23] We have invested [1:33:24] in clean energy [1:33:25] to the point [1:33:26] that we are opening up [1:33:28] factories around the world. [1:33:29] Donald Trump said [1:33:30] he was going to create [1:33:31] manufacturing jobs. [1:33:32] He lost manufacturing jobs. [1:33:34] And I'm also proud [1:33:35] to have the endorsement [1:33:36] of the United Auto Workers [1:33:37] and Sean Fain [1:33:38] who also know [1:33:40] that part of building [1:33:41] a clean energy economy [1:33:43] includes investing [1:33:44] in American-made products, [1:33:47] American automobiles. [1:33:49] It includes growing [1:33:51] what we can do [1:33:52] around American manufacturing [1:33:53] and opening up auto plants, [1:33:56] not closing them [1:33:57] like happened [1:33:57] under Donald Trump. [1:33:58] Vice President Harris, [1:33:59] thank you. [1:33:59] It didn't happen [1:34:00] under Donald Trump. [1:34:01] Let me just tell you, [1:34:01] they lost 10,000 [1:34:03] manufacturing jobs [1:34:04] this last month. [1:34:06] It's going, [1:34:06] they're all leaving. [1:34:08] They're building [1:34:08] big auto plants [1:34:10] in Mexico, [1:34:11] in many cases [1:34:12] owned by China. [1:34:13] They're building [1:34:14] these massive plants [1:34:16] and they think [1:34:16] they're going to sell [1:34:17] their cars [1:34:17] into the United States [1:34:18] because of these people. [1:34:20] What they have given [1:34:21] to China [1:34:22] is unbelievable. [1:34:23] But we're not [1:34:24] going to let that. [1:34:25] We'll put tariffs [1:34:25] on those cars [1:34:26] so they can't come [1:34:27] into our country [1:34:28] because they will kill [1:34:29] the United Auto Workers [1:34:31] and any auto worker, [1:34:32] whether it's in Detroit [1:34:33] or South Carolina [1:34:34] or any other place. [1:34:36] What they've done [1:34:37] to business [1:34:38] and manufacturing [1:34:39] in this country [1:34:40] is horrible. [1:34:42] We have nothing [1:34:43] because they refuse. [1:34:45] You know, [1:34:45] Biden doesn't go [1:34:46] after people [1:34:47] because supposedly [1:34:48] China paid him [1:34:48] millions of dollars. [1:34:49] He's afraid to do it [1:34:50] between him and his son. [1:34:52] They get all this money [1:34:53] from Ukraine. [1:34:54] They get all this money [1:34:55] from all of these [1:34:56] different countries. [1:34:57] And then you wonder, [1:34:58] why is he so loyal [1:34:59] to this one, [1:35:00] that one, Ukraine, China? [1:35:01] Why is he? [1:35:02] Why did he get [1:35:03] three and a half million dollars [1:35:04] from the mayor [1:35:05] of Moscow's wife? [1:35:07] Why did he get, [1:35:08] why did she pay him [1:35:08] three and a half million dollars? [1:35:11] This is a crooked administration [1:35:13] and they're selling [1:35:14] our country down the tubes. [1:35:16] President Trump, [1:35:17] thank you. [1:35:17] Thank you. [1:35:18] We'll be right back [1:35:19] with closing statements [1:35:20] from both of our candidates. [1:35:21] It's an historic night [1:35:22] this ABC News [1:35:22] presidential debate [1:35:23] from Philadelphia. 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[1:39:17] With the Stars, [1:39:30] premieres live on ABC [1:39:31] and Disney Plus [1:39:32] next day on Hulu. [1:39:35] I could be a fantasy. [1:39:36] How many of them [1:39:40] they can handle me? [1:39:41] There's an emergency. [1:39:48] We need you. [1:39:56] You're going to be okay. [1:40:05] Let's take on the debate [1:40:06] with Jane Fonda [1:40:07] and George Conway. [1:40:09] New tonight on ABC. [1:40:12] Live from the National [1:40:13] Constitution Center [1:40:14] in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, [1:40:17] here again, [1:40:18] David Muir [1:40:19] and Lindsay Davis. [1:40:21] Welcome back tonight. [1:40:22] The time has come [1:40:23] for closing statements [1:40:23] and Vice President Harris, [1:40:25] we begin with you. [1:40:27] So I think you've heard tonight [1:40:29] two very different visions [1:40:31] for our country. [1:40:33] One that is focused [1:40:34] on the future [1:40:34] and the other that is focused [1:40:37] on the past [1:40:37] and an attempt [1:40:39] to take us backward. [1:40:41] But we're not going back. [1:40:43] And I do believe [1:40:45] that the American people know [1:40:46] we all have so much more [1:40:47] in common than what separates us [1:40:49] and we can chart [1:40:50] a new way forward. [1:40:53] And a vision of that [1:40:54] includes having a plan, [1:40:57] understanding the aspirations, [1:40:58] the dreams, [1:41:00] the hopes, [1:41:00] the ambition [1:41:01] of the American people, [1:41:03] which is why [1:41:04] I intend to create [1:41:05] an opportunity economy, [1:41:08] investing in small businesses, [1:41:10] in new families, [1:41:11] in what we can do [1:41:12] around protecting seniors, [1:41:14] what we can do [1:41:15] that is about [1:41:16] giving hardworking folks [1:41:18] a break [1:41:19] and bringing down [1:41:19] the cost of living. [1:41:21] I believe [1:41:22] in what we can do together [1:41:24] that is about [1:41:25] sustaining America's [1:41:27] standing in the world [1:41:28] and ensuring that we have [1:41:29] the respect [1:41:30] that we so rightly deserve, [1:41:32] including respecting [1:41:34] our military [1:41:35] and ensuring we have [1:41:36] the most lethal [1:41:37] fighting force [1:41:38] in the world. [1:41:39] I will be a president [1:41:40] that will protect [1:41:41] our fundamental rights [1:41:42] and freedoms, [1:41:43] including the right [1:41:43] of a woman [1:41:44] to make decisions [1:41:45] about her own body [1:41:46] and not have her government [1:41:48] tell her what to do. [1:41:50] I'll tell you, [1:41:50] I started my career [1:41:52] as a prosecutor. [1:41:53] I was a DA, [1:41:53] I was an attorney general, [1:41:55] a United States senator, [1:41:56] and now vice president. [1:41:57] I've only had one client, [1:41:59] the people. [1:42:00] And I'll tell you, [1:42:01] as a prosecutor, [1:42:02] I never asked a victim [1:42:04] or a witness, [1:42:05] are you a Republican [1:42:06] or a Democrat? [1:42:07] The only thing I ever ask them, [1:42:09] are you okay? [1:42:11] And that's the kind of president [1:42:13] we need right now, [1:42:14] someone who cares about you [1:42:16] and is not putting themselves first. [1:42:19] I intend to be a president [1:42:20] for all Americans [1:42:21] and focus on what we can do [1:42:24] over the next 10 and 20 years [1:42:27] to build back up our country [1:42:29] by investing right now [1:42:30] in you, the American people. [1:42:32] Vice President Harris, [1:42:34] thank you. [1:42:34] President Trump? [1:42:36] So she just started by saying [1:42:38] she's going to do this, [1:42:39] she's going to do that, [1:42:40] she's going to do [1:42:41] all these wonderful things. [1:42:42] Why hasn't she done it? [1:42:44] She's been there [1:42:45] for three and a half years. [1:42:47] They've had three and a half years [1:42:48] to fix the border. [1:42:50] They've had three and a half years [1:42:52] to create jobs [1:42:53] and all the things [1:42:54] we talked about. [1:42:55] Why hasn't she done it? [1:42:57] She should leave right now, [1:42:59] go down to that beautiful White House, [1:43:01] go to the Capitol, [1:43:03] get everyone together [1:43:03] and do the things you want to do, [1:43:05] but you haven't done it [1:43:06] and you won't do it [1:43:07] because you believe in things [1:43:08] that the American people [1:43:10] don't believe in. [1:43:11] You believe in things like [1:43:13] we're not going to frack, [1:43:14] we're not going to take fossil fuel, [1:43:15] we're not going to do [1:43:16] things that are going to make [1:43:18] this country strong [1:43:19] whether you like it or not. [1:43:21] Germany tried that [1:43:22] and within one year [1:43:23] they were back to building [1:43:24] normal energy plants. [1:43:27] We're not ready for it. [1:43:28] We can't sacrifice our country [1:43:31] for the sake of bad vision. [1:43:33] But I just ask one simple question. [1:43:36] Why didn't she do it? [1:43:38] We're a failing nation. [1:43:39] We're a nation that's [1:43:41] in serious decline. [1:43:43] We're being laughed at [1:43:44] all over the world. [1:43:45] All over the world they're laughed. [1:43:46] I know the leaders very well. [1:43:47] They're coming to see me. [1:43:49] They call me. [1:43:50] We're laughed at all over the world. [1:43:52] They don't understand [1:43:53] what happened to us as a nation. [1:43:55] We're not a leader. [1:43:56] We don't have any idea [1:43:57] what's going on. [1:43:59] We have wars going on [1:44:00] in the Middle East. [1:44:01] We have wars going on [1:44:02] with Russia and Ukraine. [1:44:05] We're going to end up [1:44:06] in a third world war [1:44:07] and it'll be a war like no other [1:44:09] because of nuclear weapons, [1:44:10] the power of weaponry. [1:44:12] I rebuilt our entire military. [1:44:14] She gave a lot of it away [1:44:16] to the Taliban. [1:44:19] She gave it to Afghanistan. [1:44:21] What these people have done [1:44:22] to our country [1:44:23] and maybe toughest of all [1:44:25] is allowing millions of people [1:44:27] to come into our country. [1:44:28] Many of them are criminals [1:44:29] and they're destroying our country. [1:44:31] The worst president, [1:44:33] the worst vice president [1:44:34] in the history of our country. [1:44:37] President Trump, thank you. [1:44:39] And that is our ABC News [1:44:41] presidential debate [1:44:42] from here in Philadelphia [1:44:43] at the National Constitution Center. [1:44:45] I'm Lindsay Davis. [1:44:46] And I'm David Muir. [1:44:47] Thank you for watching [1:44:48] here in the U.S. [1:44:49] and all over the world [1:44:50] and from all of us [1:44:50] here at ABC News. [1:44:52] Good night.