Full testimony from nanny in Lindsay Clancy trial: "She was a wonderful mother"

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: Good morning. Start right there, raise it right here for the clerk, please. [00:00:17] Speaker 2: Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. [00:00:34] Speaker 1: Thank you. All right. Counsel. [00:00:36] Speaker 3: Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. Could you please tell the jurors your first and last name? My first name is Elaine Rossi. Can you spell your last name for the record? R-O-S-S-I. And what city or town do you live in? I live in Kingston. What do you do for work? I'm a nanny. How long have you been a nanny? [00:00:57] Speaker 2: For about 15 years now. [00:01:00] Speaker 3: In July of 2022, did you become familiar with the Clancy family? I did. How did you become involved with their family? [00:01:07] Speaker 2: I answered a Facebook advertisement seeking a part-time nanny position. [00:01:12] Speaker 3: And who posted that advertisement? [00:01:14] Speaker 2: Lindsay did. [00:01:15] Speaker 3: And did she respond to your message? [00:01:21] Speaker 2: I responded to her message. [00:01:23] Speaker 3: Right. And so you said you were interested, right? [00:01:25] Speaker 2: I did. [00:01:26] Speaker 3: And then did she respond to you? [00:01:28] Speaker 2: She did. [00:01:29] Speaker 3: So did you have then communication back and forth with her about possibly taking on a nannying position for their family? [00:01:37] Speaker 2: Yes, we did. [00:01:38] Speaker 3: That was on July 22nd of 2022. That initial back and forth occurred, correct? Correct. And as a result of your initial communication with her, did you end up setting up a time to come meet their family? [00:01:53] Speaker 2: We did. [00:01:54] Speaker 3: And how did that happen? Where did you meet them? [00:01:56] Speaker 2: I met at their residence in the backyard of their home. [00:02:01] Speaker 3: And that would be 47 Summer Street in Duxbury? [00:02:05] Speaker 2: Correct. [00:02:05] Speaker 3: And when you went to their home, were you able to meet the children? [00:02:08] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:02:09] Speaker 3: And how many children were there? [00:02:11] Speaker 2: Three. [00:02:11] Speaker 3: And who were they? [00:02:12] Speaker 2: Cora, Dawson, and Callan. [00:02:14] Speaker 3: And present at that meeting that you had in their backyard were also Patrick and Lindsay Clancy? [00:02:19] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:02:20] Speaker 3: And what was the purpose of kind of meeting at their home in the backyard? [00:02:24] Speaker 2: It was to get familiar with the kids, just for an introductory meeting. I got to hold Callan and play with Cora and Dawson a little bit and talk to Lindsay and Patrick. [00:02:36] Speaker 3: And so at that time, Cora was four, right? [00:02:40] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:02:40] Speaker 3: And Dawson was three? Yes. And Callan was an infant? [00:02:46] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:02:46] Speaker 3: Now, as a result of your kind of interview or interaction with them, what eventually happened with your relationship with the Clancy's? Did you become their nanny? [00:02:56] Speaker 2: I did. [00:02:57] Speaker 3: And did you communicate with Lindsay about what the expectations of the job were going to be? I did. So what was your role or your expectations of the role? [00:03:10] Speaker 2: My role was to take care of Callan when she went back to work. [00:03:14] Speaker 3: Okay. And did you know when that was expected to happen? [00:03:18] Speaker 2: I believe right around Thanksgiving. [00:03:21] Speaker 3: And did you start working for them prior to that? Prior to November? [00:03:27] Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I started first week in September of 2022. [00:03:31] Speaker 3: And so while the original terms were for you to primarily watch Callan, did you take on a slightly different role in between September and November? I did. And so what were the responsibilities or what did the Clancy's ask you to do for the family during the time of September through essentially when you stopped working for them? [00:03:52] Speaker 2: It was to get to know the family, to get to know how they worked as a family, to get to know their schedule, and essentially, mostly to take care of Callan. Occasionally, Cora and Dawson would be home and I would interact with them as well. [00:04:07] Speaker 3: So going into it, you knew that you would sometimes be spending time with Cora and Dawson? [00:04:13] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:04:13] Speaker 3: But to your understanding, were they at the home all the time? [00:04:16] Speaker 2: No, they were at school. [00:04:19] Speaker 3: And other than caring for Callan, did you agree to take on some other responsibilities in the household? I did. And what were those responsibilities? [00:04:27] Speaker 2: It was food prep, light housekeeping, laundry, things like that. [00:04:33] Speaker 3: Was that something that you offered to do as part of your services or were you asked to do it? [00:04:38] Speaker 2: I offered initially. I said those were things I did as a nanny for previous families. [00:04:45] Speaker 3: And what was your expected schedule going to be for the Clancy's? [00:04:49] Speaker 2: It was three days a week. I believe it was 8.30 a.m. to 1.30 p.m. [00:04:57] Speaker 3: And was the three days a set schedule or was the expectation that it might change? [00:05:03] Speaker 2: Initially it was set and then it changed. [00:05:08] Speaker 3: As far as your original expectation, fair to say, you were originally asked to do Monday, Tuesdays and Thursdays? [00:05:17] Speaker 2: Correct. [00:05:18] Speaker 3: And then as you started working for them, you were asked to kind of adjust some of the days? [00:05:24] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:05:24] Speaker 3: And was that something that you could do? [00:05:27] Speaker 2: If I could, I would. [00:05:29] Speaker 3: And how about the time? You said from 8.30 to 1.30, were the times flexible too? [00:05:35] Speaker 2: Yes. Sometimes it was 9.00 to 1.30. That was about the only difference. Okay. It was about a half hour. [00:05:44] Speaker 3: And how would you communicate with Lindsay? [00:05:47] Speaker 2: So we communicated via text a lot. Lindsay also had a notebook in her kitchen that we communicated. She would leave notes for me for the activities or the instructions for me for the day. [00:06:01] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:06:02] Speaker 3: And you started, you said, the week of Labor Day. That was your first week with the Clancy family, right? And primarily during that week, did you care for Catlin? [00:06:16] Speaker 2: Yes, I did. [00:06:18] Speaker 3: Did they come to call you something particular as far as like a nickname? [00:06:24] Speaker 2: They called me Lainey. [00:06:26] Speaker 3: And that was something the kids called you as well as Patrick and Lindsay? Yes. So I'm going to just show you what's been marked as Exhibit 150. Okay. If you want to just take a quick look inside of it. You can flip through the pages if that's helpful. Okay. Does the handwriting in that notebook look familiar to you? It does. And I'm afraid to say there's two different handwritings, right? Right. Did you come to know one of the handwritings as Lindsay's handwriting? [00:07:26] Speaker 2: I thought all of it was Lindsay's. [00:07:29] Speaker 3: Okay. But as far as the second set of handwriting, do you recognize? [00:07:33] Speaker 2: Oh, it's mine. Okay. I'm sorry. [00:07:35] Speaker 3: No, it's okay. And so is this the notebook that you would kind of communicate with her back and forth about Callan and his schedule? [00:07:42] Speaker 2: It is. [00:07:43] Speaker 3: And fair to say she left you pretty detailed instructions on his care? [00:07:47] Speaker 2: Yes, she did. [00:07:48] Speaker 3: And you were aware that she was very particular about sleep and food and keeping on a schedule, right? [00:07:54] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:07:54] Speaker 3: And so that's the purpose of this notebook. Yes. When you would come to the household in the morning, would you often interact with Lindsay prior to taking care of taking the baby? [00:08:17] Speaker 2: Sometimes if she was there, I would interact with her. Some mornings she wasn't there. [00:08:22] Speaker 3: If she wasn't there, was Patrick home? Yes. And did you know where she was when she wasn't there? [00:08:29] Speaker 2: Sometimes she'd leave in the notebook that she was in the basement working out. Sometimes she'd drop the kids off to school. [00:08:36] Speaker 3: And would you often see her throughout the day when you were there from your nine to one shift? Yes. But there would be times when you see her come back to the home? [00:08:49] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:08:50] Speaker 3: And in those times when she left, sometimes she had the other two children with her, correct? [00:08:55] Speaker 2: Correct. [00:08:56] Speaker 3: And sometimes she did not? [00:08:57] Speaker ?: No. [00:08:58] Speaker 3: At times, were you left with all three children? [00:09:01] Speaker 2: I think on one occasion I was. [00:09:06] Speaker 3: And would you get there before or after Cora and Dawson would be off to school usually? [00:09:13] Speaker 2: Most times I would be pulling in the driveway and they would be waiting to say goodbye to me or hello to me. [00:09:19] Speaker 3: And you're aware that they did not have school on Tuesdays, right? Were you aware? [00:09:26] Speaker 2: I don't remember. Sorry. [00:09:28] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:09:33] Speaker 3: When you started working for the Clancy family, was there a conversation with Lindsay about Callan not taking a bottle? [00:09:44] Speaker 2: I don't remember that. [00:09:46] Speaker 3: Did you often feed him a bottle when you were caring for him? I did. And do you recall at one point that you actually videoed Callan taking a bottle and sent it to Lindsay? [00:09:57] Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I did. Yes. [00:09:59] Speaker 3: And that would have been on September 9th, correct? [00:10:02] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:10:04] Speaker 3: At this point, Your Honor, I'd like to just play a short video. [00:10:08] Speaker 1: Really? I object. I don't have a point. Let the jury see the video. Can I see? [00:10:18] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:13:18] Speaker 3: Thank you. Yes, I did. [00:14:18] Speaker 2: And I took Cora and Dawson to a Tumble Fun Gymnastics class. [00:14:24] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:14:24] Speaker 3: And that would have been in October of 2022 that you took Cora and Dawson, correct? When you went to Tumble Fun, what is that? [00:14:32] Speaker 2: It's a toddler, it's a toddler, like, it's a toddler, like, a gymnastics place, indoor gymnastics place. [00:14:39] Speaker 3: Did you only take Cora and Dawson or did you also take Callen? Just Cora and Dawson. Okay. And why was it that you took them on this particular day? Lindsay had mentioned to me, so I offered to take them, so I offered to take them. So, did you take them? So, you took them, did you drive her car or your own car? I drove her car? I drove her car? I drove her car. And you were able to bring them home, correct? Correct. Did you notice anything different when you came back to the home on that day? I didn't. During the course of the time in which you were at the Clancy's house, fair to say, from September to early December is the time that you were there, three days a week. Yes. Did you come to find out that Lindsay was having some issues? I did. Did she talk to you about that? She did. And what did she tell you about her issues? [00:15:45] Speaker 2: She shared with me that she was suffering from postpartum. [00:15:51] Speaker 3: Now, when she shared this information with you, had you noticed anything different about her demeanor or her presentation around the house? I didn't at all. Had her trips out of the house when you were there stopped or decreased during that time period? No. And did she tell you that at that time that she was seeing some doctors? She did. What about medication? Did you have any conversations with her about her taking medication during that time period? [00:16:19] Speaker 2: I think we talked about she was going to stop a medication because she was trying to stop nursing. [00:16:28] Speaker 3: That she was going to stop medication or she was going to start medication? [00:16:33] Speaker 2: I think she was trying to stop something because she was going to, oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. Take your time. She was not going to nurse Calen anymore because she was going to be starting a new medication. [00:16:48] Speaker 3: Did she ever give you any details about the medication? She didn't. Do you recall seeing prescription bottles around the house? I did. I did. Did you ever learn from Lindsay that she had gone to the emergency room in November of 2022? No. How about going to the emergency room in December of 2022? No. Did anything about your arrangements with coming on the three days, caring for Calen and sometimes Cora, did any of that ever change because of what she reported to you about having postpartum? [00:17:26] Speaker 2: Only at the end of my time with them. [00:17:29] Speaker 3: Okay. We'll get there in a second. But did you have the occasion to observe her interacting with the children? I did. And did you have any concerns about her interacting with the children? [00:17:40] Speaker 2: None at all. She was a wonderful mom. [00:17:47] Speaker 3: Did she have any further conversation with you about maybe more specific sleep or sleep issues that she had been having during the time period you were nannying for them? I did. And what did she tell you about that? [00:17:59] Speaker 2: She told me she was having difficulties sleeping and that she was sleeping in the basement. [00:18:08] Speaker 3: Now, when you would watch Calen and she would be in the basement, would you often see her in the basement? [00:18:15] Speaker 2: No. [00:18:16] Speaker 3: And one of the things you said that you sometimes did was do some laundry, right? And where was the laundry in the Clancy house? It was in the basement. And so you'd have to go through that living room area down there where the couch was to get back to the laundry room? Yes, it was in the back. How about working out in the basement? Do you recall if you went down the basement stairs to the right that there'd be like a little area where there'd be weights and that kind of thing? Did you ever see her working out there? [00:18:47] Speaker 2: I don't recall if I did. [00:18:49] Speaker 3: As far as the medications, do you recall where you observed the medications in the house? [00:19:00] Speaker 2: Yes, they were to the right of the refrigerator, I believe in a cabinet. [00:19:05] Speaker 3: And you had to go into the Clancy, Patrick and Lindsay's bedroom, right? I did. Fair to say Calen's crib was in there. It was. So do you recall ever seeing medications in the bedroom? I didn't. Now you had mentioned that you knew Lindsay to be going back to work in November, correct? Were you advised or did you know that she was originally scheduled to go back in October but then bumped it back to November? I didn't know that. But as you began working for them, that November date was in mind, right? Moving to Thanksgiving of 2022, did something change about the plan for her to go back to work? [00:19:58] Speaker 2: Yes, I came in, I think it was a few days after Thanksgiving, maybe the day after Thanksgiving and Lindsay was in the kitchen and I had expected her to be asleep. Why was that? Because I thought she was working that shift, that Thanksgiving shift. And she told me that she wouldn't be going back to work. [00:20:22] Speaker 3: Was there any further conversation of what the plan was for you and the family during that time period? [00:20:30] Speaker 2: No, I think I mentioned if she wasn't going back to work and that if they didn't need me, if they could let me know. [00:20:36] Speaker 3: Okay. And so do you recall being at the home at one point where Patrick and Lindsay left the house and came back? [00:20:43] Speaker 2: Yes. Can you tell us about that interaction? Of course. Patrick and Lindsay went for a walk. And when they returned, I was in the living room on the floor with Callan and they came in and told me that they would have to let me go because Lindsay would not be going back to work and the two of them would be home to care for the children. [00:21:04] Speaker 3: Okay. And so did they give you anything else, any other information about why Lindsay wasn't going back to work during that meeting? [00:21:12] Speaker 2: No. [00:21:12] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:21:13] Speaker 3: And did they give you some time to kind of make other arrangements after that? They did. I believe they gave me two weeks. And during that time after Thanksgiving, did you have the occasion to see Lindsay interacting with the kids in the home? I did. And was anything about your observations ever different? [00:21:32] Speaker 2: Nothing. [00:21:42] Speaker 3: So the kids themselves, you had the occasion to spend some time with Cora. And how would you describe Cora? [00:21:53] Speaker 2: Oh, Cora was a girly girl who loved her babies very much. She was very sweet. And she loved arts and crafts and loved playing with her. Fresh Mart, which was a little children's supermarket. She was lovely. [00:22:09] Speaker 3: And Dawson, how about him? How would you describe him? [00:22:11] Speaker 2: Oh, Dawson was full of energy, rambunctious, funny, silly. [00:22:17] Speaker 3: Did you ever have any problem watching Dawson or keeping him under control? [00:22:23] Speaker 2: Not at all. I was only with him on a handful of occasions. [00:22:28] Speaker 3: Did you ever see Dawson kind of interacting with his siblings, with Cora or with Callan? I did. And did you see anything, or could you tell us a little bit about Dawson's interactions with them? [00:22:40] Speaker 2: Cora and Dawson played well. There was one occasion in the kitchen where they were playing, and I think Cora took one of his Play-Doh something. He was playing with Play-Doh, and his reaction, he was frustrated, and he reached out and slapped Callan. [00:22:59] Speaker 3: Now, were you alone with the kids during this interaction, or was Lindsay present too? [00:23:03] Speaker 2: Lindsay was, I think, in the kitchen at the same time. [00:23:06] Speaker 3: Did you see her react to that when she saw that behavior? She did. And what was the reaction? [00:23:11] Speaker 2: What did she do? She went over and removed Callan, sorry, she removed Dawson from the room, and came back and consoled Callan. [00:23:19] Speaker 3: And eventually, did you see her go back and kind of talk to Dawson about his behavior and address it? And was that appropriate, in your opinion? Of course, yes. How about your, how you would describe Callan? How would you describe him? You spent the most time with him, correct? [00:23:35] Speaker 2: I did. He was the happiest, sweetest, easiest baby. He was just a love. Thank you. [00:23:57] Speaker 3: If Lindsay had told you in one of these exchanges, and again, you exchanged mostly either in this notebook or via text, right? Correct. If she told you about working out, do you know if she wasn't in the basement where she would go to work out? [00:24:13] Speaker 2: I think it was the Kingsbury Club. [00:24:16] Speaker 3: And as far as when you stopped working for them, do you remember exactly when it was? You said maybe two weeks after Thanksgiving. [00:24:24] Speaker 2: I think it was December 8th or December 10th. [00:24:29] Speaker 3: And in the time that you were with the Clancys in their households, caring for their kids, you know, interacting with Patrick and Lindsay, did you ever have any concerns that the children were not safe? [00:24:43] Speaker 2: No. [00:24:43] Speaker ?: No. [00:24:44] Speaker 2: Thank you. [00:24:51] Speaker 1: All right. Cross. Morning. [00:24:57] Speaker 2: Good morning. [00:25:00] Speaker 1: So you first met Lindsay and Patrick and the kids in, was it July of 22? Yes. And then you were hired, obviously, and you then took over as a nanny. [00:25:16] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:25:17] Speaker 1: You also, you get a lot of years of experience as a nanny, don't you? [00:25:20] Speaker 2: I do. [00:25:21] Speaker 1: And this was that you wanted to kind of pick up some more hours, and that's why you fortunately reached out to the two of them and ended up taking care of those kids. So from July until, what was it, November after Thanksgiving, or was it early December that they had the walk, and then they came in and told you that she was going to be home? [00:25:39] Speaker 2: Early December. [00:25:40] Speaker 1: Early December. And you all left on good terms, right? [00:25:46] Speaker 2: Oh, wonderful terms. [00:25:47] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you guys stayed in touch with each other. You texted them Christmas, things of that nature, right? [00:25:51] Speaker 2: I did reach out to Lindsay to wish her a Merry Christmas. [00:25:54] Speaker 1: Did she respond? [00:25:55] Speaker 2: She did. [00:25:58] Speaker 1: Would you agree that on March 1st of 2023, the state police interviewed you for about a half hour or longer about your observations of the Clancy family? [00:26:11] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:26:13] Speaker 1: Do you recall that the trooper, were there one or two of them, if you remember? [00:26:18] Speaker 2: I believe there were two. [00:26:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you recall the trooper asking you questions about your observations of the Clancy family with particular focus on Lindsay? They were asking you about how well you knew her, what you thought of her, what she did as far as a mother in your presence. [00:26:37] Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I can't really hear you. [00:26:39] Speaker 1: I apologize. They wanted to know what kind of a mother she was, right? Yes. And you were able to respond to that, right? I did. They also wanted to know any observations that you had about her use of prescription drugs, right? [00:26:54] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:26:55] Speaker 1: And you were forthcoming on that as well, right? They also wanted to know whether or not you observed or if she made any statements about any symptomology or symptoms that she might have been having that were causing her difficulty, right? Do you recall indicating to the troopers that, in your opinion, that she was a loving and a doting mother? Yes. Can you tell the jury what that means? I mean, what did you observe about her as a mother interacting with her kids? [00:27:25] Speaker 2: I observed a wonderful mom who loved her kids, who was, she was very concerned with their safety. She was very concerned with Callen's eating and sleeping. She was a wonderful mother. [00:27:38] Speaker 1: And the district attorney asked you questions about what apparently is Exhibit 150 in this case. And that's the book that she would write notes to you on, and then you would on occasion write notes back to her. Is that right? [00:27:55] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:27:57] Speaker 1: So when the district attorney asked you to identify her writing, so like also there were like photographs like that in the book as well, right? No, who would draw that? Would she draw that or would you draw that? [00:28:09] Speaker 2: I think I drew that. [00:28:10] Speaker 1: You drew that one? [00:28:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. [00:28:13] Speaker 1: And for example, Thursday, September 29th, it says Callen last fed the time, put him down for a nap at 935 with a smiley face. We will be home. Clean the clothes and the dryer if you get to it, and then Callen up at 1045 and then some scribbling mark on the bottom. That's an indication of the type of notes that she would leave for you? [00:28:38] Speaker 2: Correct. [00:28:39] Speaker 1: Would she also leave notes for you to the effect of cutting up sweet potatoes and cutting up celery and things in one-inch squares so that the kids to eat? [00:28:53] Speaker 2: Yes, food prep, yes. [00:28:54] Speaker 1: Did you find that to be overbearing or hurtful? [00:28:56] Speaker 2: Well, not at all. [00:28:58] Speaker 1: You didn't find that to be controlling, that she was trying to exert control over you, did you? [00:29:02] Speaker 2: Not at all. [00:29:04] Speaker 1: You felt that was appropriate for her to tell you about the cutting up of the vegetables and the squares and things? [00:29:09] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:29:17] Speaker 1: She also told you during that period of time that she was unable to sleep. Isn't that right? [00:29:25] Speaker 2: Correct. [00:29:26] Speaker 1: Told you that lack of sleep was becoming a significant impact on her life and that she had to see doctors and was on medication for that, right? [00:29:38] Speaker 2: Correct. [00:29:40] Speaker 1: Again, the troopers were questioning you and directing you on your questions or your answers. And at one point, do you recall saying to the trooper, I loved my Lindsay? [00:29:50] Speaker 2: I loved my Lindsay? [00:29:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:29:53] Speaker 2: I don't recall saying that. [00:29:54] Speaker 1: Okay, did you? [00:29:56] Speaker 2: Do I love Lindsay? [00:29:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:29:57] Speaker 2: I did love Lindsay, yes. [00:29:59] Speaker 1: Now, when was she sleeping in the basement? Do you remember that? [00:30:05] Speaker 2: Do I know when or why? When? [00:30:06] Speaker 1: When was she sleeping in the basement? [00:30:09] Speaker 2: I honestly don't remember. Okay. [00:30:12] Speaker 1: Do you remember, if I suggest to you that it was around the end of November, mid-December, that she was sleeping in the basement for a period of time? If you remember. [00:30:21] Speaker 2: I don't remember. I'm sorry. [00:30:24] Speaker 1: Did she indicate to you why she was sleeping in the basement? [00:30:28] Speaker 2: She, I don't think she did. [00:30:32] Speaker 1: Would you agree that she was forthright with you as far as telling you what was going on in her life as far as her concentration and her inability to sleep and things of that nature? [00:30:42] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:30:43] Speaker 1: Sustained. Would she tell you about those problems that she was suffering? [00:30:51] Speaker 2: She shared with me that she had postpartum and that she couldn't sleep. [00:30:54] Speaker 1: And as a result of that, you were pretty concerned for her, weren't you? [00:30:58] Speaker 2: I really don't know much about postpartum, but I would always ask her how she was feeling or how she was doing. [00:31:04] Speaker 1: And in fact, you noted that in addition to the inability to sleep, that she would speak about that she was unable to focus. Do you recall her ever saying she had difficulty focusing on things? [00:31:14] Speaker 2: I don't recall her saying that to me. [00:31:16] Speaker 1: How about Finn? Did you notice that she appeared to be losing significant weight? [00:31:20] Speaker 2: I did, and I commented to her about that. [00:31:23] Speaker 1: Okay. And you had occasion to see her as a mother playing with the children, obviously, right? [00:31:32] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:31:35] Speaker 1: Would the two of you stay in touch with each other by text even when she was out and you were home, in their home with the kids? [00:31:43] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:31:43] Speaker 1: Fair to say that you would take many, many videos of the kids and send them to Lindsay on her phone, right? I did. And fair to say that during that period of time from your involvement, Ms. Rossi, as a nanny, that you sent her videos of the children playing and as we saw, the baby taking a bottle and the baby eating and things of that nature, right? [00:32:13] Speaker 2: I did. [00:32:13] Speaker 1: Did she ever send you any videos or did she ever respond to your emails or videos? [00:32:19] Speaker 2: Yes, she responded to most of my texts she responded to. [00:32:25] Speaker 1: Did she seem to be appreciative of your work? [00:32:28] Speaker 2: Yes, very much so. [00:32:30] Speaker 1: And in fact, she was pretty vocal about that. She thought the world of you, right? [00:32:35] Speaker 2: Yes. [00:32:36] Speaker 1: Thank you. That's all I have. Redirect? [00:32:39] Speaker 3: Just one question. In all that she told you about postpartum sleep and all that you observed in the house, did you ever have any conversations with her about intrusive thoughts or thoughts of harming herself? [00:32:50] Speaker 2: No. [00:32:51] Speaker 3: Thank you. Okay. [00:32:52] Speaker 1: Anything on that? No. All right, you may be stiffed out. Thank you.