FULL BILATERAL MEETING: Trump Unleashes On NATO During Explosive Meeting With Mark Rutte — AC1F

[0:00] dinner last night with President Erdogan, and I think it was really, I would rate it a 10, maybe a 12. [0:08] A bit of a small battle, isn't it? [0:09] The President Trump has been here. Everything is beautiful. [0:11] And we've had some very good meetings, in particular with Turkey and trade. [0:16] And now we're meeting with everybody today. [0:18] As you know, we have a very big meeting with lots of leaders from, I think, every country, right? [0:23] Every country showed up. [0:24] They're all there. [0:25] Yeah. [0:26] Plus, we have a couple that aren't in there that would like to be in there, I guess. [0:29] But it's been very successful. [0:31] It's been a fantastic meeting. [0:33] So I'll be having a news conference after we've finished it at about 4.30, 5 o'clock. [0:39] And I assume most of you will attend. [0:42] But a lot of things have been determined, and some things haven't, frankly. [0:46] We attacked very powerfully last night the very dangerous people from Iran. [0:57] They're sick. [0:57] There's something wrong with them. [0:59] We say, go and do your funeral stuff. [1:03] And instead of that, they start shooting rockets at ships yesterday. [1:08] And so we hit them very hard last night. [1:10] Very hard. [1:11] I would say 20 to 1, 20 times tougher. [1:16] And I told them, every time you hit, we hit. [1:18] And of course, they're dirty players, so they go after everyone, probably including me. [1:23] I've been number one on their list for years. [1:26] And they're a bunch of scum, if you want to know the truth. [1:28] They're scum. [1:29] And so we don't like them. [1:33] I don't like them. [1:34] And they're evil people, and it's the denuclearization of Iran. [1:38] And we're going to denuke it. [1:41] We're not going to let them because they're crazy, and they can't have a nuclear weapon. [1:46] And they go around killing people. [1:48] They've killed thousands and thousands of our soldiers. [1:50] They've killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. [1:55] They had the roadside bomb, Soleimani. [1:58] I took care of him, first term. [2:00] And that was a big thing, because I think they'd probably be a lot stronger had he been around. [2:05] Because he was a bad guy, but he was an evil genius. [2:10] But a bad guy. [2:11] And he was the father of the roadside bomb. [2:13] The roadside bomb is a bomb that goes on when you're driving your little vehicle around. [2:17] And it goes on, and you have no legs, no arms, and no face. [2:21] And they've killed thousands and thousands of people. [2:24] Even the SS call was theirs. [2:27] You remember that disaster. [2:29] So, I don't like them at all. [2:35] And, frankly, I think we waste a lot of time with them. [2:37] I think we should just do our business. [2:41] Can you imagine? [2:42] They start shooting bombs. [2:44] Actually, missiles at ships yesterday. [2:47] Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, a couple of others. [2:51] And I don't think they know what the hell they're doing. [2:57] But they're bad people. [2:58] Very bad people. [2:58] I think they're incompetent. [3:02] Because if they were competent, they would have made a deal a long time ago. [3:04] Like, how about 47 years ago? [3:07] So, they've been troubled for 47 years. [3:09] And they're — we took out their first set of leaders. [3:13] We took out their second set of leaders. [3:16] They want to take out U.S. leader, me. [3:19] I'm on every list. [3:20] I saw things this morning. [3:22] I'm on every single one of their lists. [3:24] And so far, I guess I've been a little bit lucky. [3:27] But that maybe doesn't last very long. [3:29] Because that's the way it goes. [3:32] But we have great people. [3:33] But these are evil, sick people. [3:35] And we have to — they're cancer. [3:37] They're cancer. [3:38] And you know what you do? [3:39] You got to cut out cancer early. [3:41] Man, that's the way I feel. [3:43] And I want to thank Mark. [3:46] He's been a great Secretary General of NATO. [3:49] I'm not happy with NATO because of what they did with Greenland. [3:53] And I'm not happy with NATO because of the fact that they didn't want to help us with the number-one state sponsor of terror. [3:59] That's Iran. [4:01] They were unwilling to help us. [4:02] Now, in all fairness, I didn't speak to Mark about it. [4:04] I think if I did, it might have been different. [4:05] But we didn't need help. [4:08] But I was really testing. [4:09] I wanted to see whether or not they'd be there. [4:10] And the answer is they were — I spoke to Germany. [4:12] I spoke to France. [4:13] I spoke to UK. [4:16] I spoke to Italy. [4:18] I spoke to — I didn't speak to Spain. [4:20] Spain is a wasted cause. [4:22] We don't want to do any trade business with Spain anymore, by the way. [4:25] I'd like you to cut it out. [4:26] Spain is a terrible partner in NATO. [4:31] They don't participate. [4:33] They don't pay. [4:35] I don't want anything to do with Spain. [4:36] Cut off all trade with Spain, please — including visits. [4:41] Okay? We don't want anything to do. [4:43] Watch them — watch them come running back. [4:45] Oh, he'll come running back. [4:46] They treat this man terribly. [4:49] And this man is a good man, too. [4:50] Great man. [4:52] They're lucky they have him. [4:54] But Spain doesn't agree to anything. [4:57] And you shouldn't carry him. [4:58] I mean, you sort of automatically carry him, [4:59] because you're protecting an area. [5:01] So they're there. [5:02] So they probably figured they have to protect us, right? [5:05] But we don't have to. [5:06] We don't have to trade with them. [5:07] I don't want to do any more trade with them. [5:09] All right? [5:10] Take it immediately. [5:11] Don't even talk to them. [5:13] They're hopeless. [5:14] Bad people, because, you know, they have everybody [5:17] else going and paying and working in Spain — in [5:20] particular Spain. [5:21] There are a couple of others. [5:22] But in particular Spain, they're open about it. [5:25] They're hostile about it. [5:26] And let's see how hostile they remain when they call up [5:30] and they, please, please, we want to trade with you, sir. [5:33] We want to trade with you, sir. [5:35] They make so much money with us, and we're going to see [5:38] that they make a lot less. [5:39] I want no business with them. [5:42] So, other than that, we're having the big meeting in a [5:46] little while, and I'm going to relate my problems. [5:50] Greenland is a big problem for us. [5:53] And the other big problem is the fact that when we wanted [5:56] them — we didn't want them badly, but we did say, [5:58] if you want to join us, and they all said no — but when [6:02] they could have, they weren't there for us. [6:04] And we've been there for them. [6:05] We spent over a trillion dollars over the last short [6:08] period — trillion — in order to protect these countries [6:11] from Russia and has nothing to do with us. [6:15] We have an ocean, but it's been a long-term thing. [6:18] And they haven't treated us right. [6:20] And Mark understands it. [6:22] He understands it. [6:23] And we're going to work something out, I think, [6:26] one way or the other. [6:27] But we've been treated unfairly. [6:29] We pay disproportionately. [6:31] We had a time when we were paying 100 percent. [6:33] We were paying 100 percent of NATO, and yet a lot of [6:36] the countries weren't paying anything. [6:38] But there was calls made a few weeks ago. [6:43] I spoke with the UK, and the Prime Minister said, [6:46] well, we don't want to help you now, but we'll help [6:48] you when the war is over. [6:50] I said, that's not good. [6:52] And likewise, I spoke to Germany. [6:53] They didn't want to help. [6:54] I spoke to France. [6:55] They didn't want to help. [6:56] Nobody wanted to help. [6:58] Some of the very small countries wanted to help, [7:00] because they're the most vulnerable. [7:01] I mean, that's the only reason they wanted to help. [7:04] So I appreciate you being here. [7:05] We're going to be going back together — many of us together. [7:09] And again, I want to say, despite the fact that I'm [7:12] very upset with NATO, that we pay far, far too much — [7:17] billions and billions of dollars too much, because [7:21] it's unfair — because we're protecting them. [7:24] So we protect them, but they're not there for us. [7:26] Think of it. [7:26] It doesn't work. [7:28] But I want to say, this is a great leader. [7:29] They're lucky they have him. [7:31] It's a very — it's their biggest asset. [7:34] You want to know the truth? [7:36] So, Mark, would you say a few words? [7:37] Absolutely. [7:38] And thank you so much, Mr. President, dear Donald. [7:41] Let me start with Iran. [7:42] We discussed it last night at the presidential palace. [7:46] I think what you did — degrading the nuclear capability — [7:51] crucial for Israel, the region, for Europe — [7:54] degrading the ballistic missile capability of Iran — [7:57] crucial for Israel, for the region, for you, [7:59] for the whole world — [8:01] and then trying to bring this to a peaceful end. [8:03] They attacking ships yesterday. [8:05] I think what you did last night was absolutely necessary. [8:08] It was a very strong response. [8:11] And I'm with you on this. [8:13] It's really important. [8:15] When it comes to NATO, what you have achieved — [8:20] and this is a huge win, and I just want to say this again — [8:23] the last two years, Canada and European NATO nations [8:26] spending $215 billion more in 2024 and 2025 and 2026 compared to 2024. [8:35] This is staggering. [8:36] $258 billion. [8:38] In the meantime, almost 200,000 jobs in the U.S. being supported [8:43] by all the investments by countries in the United States [8:46] in the defense industrial base, [8:47] buying from the defense industrial base from the U.S. companies. [8:50] So here you see there is a — [8:52] you have been able to really get them to step up, to do this. [8:55] And when it comes to Iran, I know you're disappointed. [8:58] We discussed it a couple of weeks ago. [9:00] I would say these are isolated cases. [9:02] 5,000 planes taking off from European airports in support of Epic Fury. [9:08] It was Europe as one big platform of power protection for the United States, [9:14] helping with Epic Fury, including countries you mentioned. [9:17] Germany from day one, France, and many others. [9:21] We discussed the Bucharest airport, which was closed for a couple of days for commercial traffic, [9:26] because you needed it for Epic Fury. [9:28] And they were totally fine. [9:29] Well, the United Kingdom wouldn't let us use the island for two weeks, [9:31] so we had a flight back. [9:32] No, no, so I'm saying you're right or isolated cases. [9:34] And Italy was very bad having to do with their bases, [9:36] as you know, and a couple of others. [9:38] So it didn't come — [9:39] But still, generally, 5,000 is huge. [9:41] And you mentioned Spain. [9:43] Even you got Spain to pay 2%. [9:46] They spent — they made a huge step in last year. [9:49] So there are still issues we have to solve, [9:50] but hey, also even in Spain, I would say they got to the 2%. [9:53] And I know you have a very strong relationship with the United Kingdom, the King, [9:59] but also you personally always with Keir Starmer, who is now leaving office. [10:03] He has now also committed to spend another $20 billion extra, [10:07] 15 billion pounds, on defense. [10:08] So I would argue without you in this chair, this would not have happened. [10:12] It is, of course, because of Russia, but also because of you. [10:15] So grab to win. [10:17] It's there. [10:18] You did this. [10:18] It was The Hague, and now they're implementing it. [10:21] And on Greenland, you and I made a deal in Davos. [10:23] I will make sure that that deal is step by step being implemented, [10:28] that you can deploy, if you want, the Golden Dome on Greenland. [10:31] You have your trilateral talks — Mark was leading them — [10:34] from your side with the Greenlanders and the Danes, [10:36] and it comes to if they would change their constitutional position in the Kingdom, etc. [10:40] But, hey — [10:41] I mean, just so there I was saying, Greenland is very important for the United States, [10:43] but it's not important for Denmark. [10:46] In fact, when Denmark was overrun by the Nazis in less than one day, [10:51] Hitler beat them out and one day took over, they asked us to take care of Greenland. [10:56] In fact, we took Greenland and then, stupidly, we gave it back. [11:00] We shouldn't have given it back to them because we're the ones that need it. [11:03] We need it for protection of the world, not just the United States. [11:07] And it's very important. [11:08] It doesn't help Denmark, but it helps us. [11:10] And it's very important for us. [11:12] And, again, they were defeated very quickly. [11:15] Denmark was beaten in one day — less than one day — by the Nazis, by Hitler. [11:20] And when this happened, they immediately switched it over to us. [11:24] We owned it. We had it. [11:26] We were taking care of it, and then we gave it back. [11:28] Which is — I don't know why. [11:30] I wouldn't have — I wouldn't have given the Panama Canal back, either. [11:32] You know, so what do I know? [11:34] I certainly wouldn't have done that because China is trying to take over the Panama Canal, [11:37] and that's not going to happen. [11:39] So, but I just — you know, it's interesting. [11:42] I'm very unhappy with NATO, and yet this man is a great leader. [11:46] And he gets it. [11:47] He gets it. [11:48] Gets it maybe better than some of the leaders. [11:50] But I also think that your allies get it, thanks to you. [11:52] And that is important. [11:53] I could not do this without you. [11:54] It's too bad Biden didn't do it, or Obama. [11:56] Hey, but you're here now. [11:57] Obama. [11:58] And Trump 45, and Trump 47. [12:00] In total, more than $1.2 trillion. [12:03] I call this the Trump trillion. [12:05] No, it's true, but — [12:05] $1.2 trillion extra spent by Canada and the Europeans. [12:08] And I'm not always blaming NATO. [12:10] They're getting a — they got a free ride. [12:12] But not anymore. [12:13] And if Biden had any brain, which he didn't, he would have said, you got to pay more. [12:17] And same with Obama. [12:20] Two bad presidents. [12:22] But they could have asked, and you would have done that, too. [12:24] It would have been — I mean, who knows? [12:26] Who knows if they would have done it? [12:27] But you made this happen, and it is unusual. [12:28] It should have happened years ago, and it couldn't. [12:31] But Obama didn't do it, and Biden didn't do it, and frankly, Bush didn't do it either. [12:35] But you did what Eisenhower started trying to do, equalizing the Europeans. [12:38] He tried, yeah. [12:39] Eisenhower tried. [12:40] And all the other presidents, none of them were successful. [12:42] You're the first one. [12:43] It's your win. [12:44] Your win in the hate. [12:45] That's why I like him. [12:46] And the win now. [12:47] That's why I like him. [12:48] This is true. [12:49] Without you, this would not have happened. [12:51] Do you have any questions? [12:52] Mr. President, is the ceasefire over? [12:55] Is the ceasefire done? [12:56] Is the MOU dead? [12:57] It's a very interesting question. [13:01] To me, I think it's over. [13:04] I don't want to deal with them anymore, but they're scum. [13:07] You know what scum is? [13:08] They're scum. [13:09] They're sick people. [13:10] They're led by sick people. [13:12] And they're vicious, violent people. [13:14] And if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it. [13:18] As far as I'm concerned, it's over. [13:20] I'll speak to our negotiators. [13:22] They want to negotiate. [13:23] They're good people. [13:24] Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner, but they have to come back to me. [13:27] As far as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time dealing with them. [13:31] Liars. [13:33] We make a deal. [13:34] And they went. [13:35] If I make a deal with him, we have a deal. [13:37] And he goes out, he talks. [13:38] We make a deal. [13:39] Everyone's agreed. [13:40] No nuclear weapon. [13:42] We make a deal. [13:42] They go outside, talk to the press, they say, we never even talked about it. [13:46] There's something wrong with them. [13:47] They're cuckoo. [13:50] As far as I'm concerned, it's over. [13:52] The Press I'm concerned. [13:53] The Press that talks won't resume after we get through the funeral proceedings. [13:58] We'll talk. [13:58] Does this mean that talks with Iran will not resume after we get through? [14:00] The Press I don't care. [14:01] They can talk, but I think they're wasting their time. [14:04] a bunch of lying guys i do my whole life that's all i do is deals my whole life is that's how i [14:09] became president i guess that's a deal too right but i i made a lot of money i had a lot of great [14:14] success tremendous success everything i did i was successful and i deal with these guys and i say [14:20] this is from a different school they're liars they're cheats they're sick people they've hurt [14:27] their people they killed 54 000 people as of now that were protesting you know when people say how [14:34] come they haven't taken over they can't take over because they're dead they killed them nobody's [14:39] going to take over they have no guns and the other side has machine guns and they're killing them the [14:44] press doesn't report it but they're bad people they're bad people and uh frankly i don't want to [14:52] waste my time with them now i'll let our wonderful negotiators keep talking if they want but i don't [14:58] see it uh i don't like these people you know that i like him i like the leaders i like i think all of [15:04] these leaders great and they love i think they didn't treat the united states fairly for many [15:10] years but that's okay but but they're sane rational good people most of them i don't like a couple of [15:16] them to be honest but there are a couple i don't like much but i like keep that i like erdogan i'll [15:21] tell you i like president erdogan he rolled out the red carpet he's terrific you know he could have [15:26] gone into a lot of people saying like with bb i like bb i think bb was a terrific wartime prime minister [15:34] but bb said rough things yesterday about turkey and erwin and i said you know i spoke to him i said [15:40] he could have gone into the war because he doesn't like israel much and he doesn't like bb much and he [15:46] didn't go because of me and this is a military power millions of soldiers turkey is very strong [15:54] they have a lot of our best equipment they're trying to get the f-35s but he didn't go in he wanted [16:00] he would go in if it weren't for me he would have gone in and he would have been on the other side [16:06] even though i don't think he likes the other side either because he happens to be very sane [16:10] and they happen to be very crazy but so i think you know they treated us right i think china treated [16:15] us right i was with president xi and i said i hope you're not going to go into the war because we [16:22] don't want that you know he gets 50 of his oil from the strait of hormones and he gets more than 50 [16:30] and he never went into the war he didn't supply him equipment you know he was great big fan of [16:35] president xi a lot of people say oh why you know i watched a couple of people critical of the fact [16:42] that tick tock tick tock is so bad it's so dangerous it's so horrible they're spreading all these rumors [16:46] and the numbers came out yesterday you know who's number one on tic tac i am i'm number one on tick tock [16:52] and all i talk about is how bad communism is right they say oh it's terrible they're spreading but i'm [16:58] number one and i listen to gordon chang i like gordon chang but he's always like negative oh china's so [17:04] terrible they're so terrible and tick tock is so terrible but i'm number one on tick tock i have [17:10] like four billion views or something like that so i don't know you people have to get their priorities [17:16] priorities straight uh we have had a really good day we're going to have another good half a day [17:24] and then i'll see you later we'll talk to you thank you very much thank you [17:28] you guys thank you