EXPLOSIVE development in Ilhan Omar probe — Watters: The $30M question

[0:00] So we begin with an explosive story out of Washington, Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar named now at the center of the federal investigation to her immigration history. [0:09] So U.S. Attorney, U.S. Attorney Janine Pirro revealing what she says is the Somali-born squad member's true identity. [0:17] Chanley Painter joins us with those details. Chanley, good morning. [0:20] Hey, good morning. So court documents identify the Minnesota Congresswoman not as Ilhan Omar, [0:25] but what U.S. Attorney Janine Pirro says is, quote, her real name. Watch this. [0:31] Her real name is Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi. You had it absolutely right. [0:39] Her sister is Sahra Nur Saeed Elmi, and her sister actually wrote a book [0:46] and talked about the fact that Ilhan is her sister. [0:52] So that is her name. [0:54] But Omar's office is denying it, with a spokesperson saying this, quote, [1:00] This is completely false. Ilhan Omar is her real name. [1:04] Pirro also responding to Omar's claim that the feds took her DNA during the raid on her home last week. Watch this. [1:12] I'm not going to answer that, Jessie. You know I'm not. [1:15] But I can tell you something. If the feds want your DNA, they don't have to go into your house to get it. [1:22] There are many ways to get an individual's DNA, and I would imagine that most people in the audience know that as well. [1:29] Getting DNA doesn't necessarily mean you have to show up and get some kind of a swab, a buckle swab, as we call them. [1:38] There are many ways to get them. [1:40] And President Trump is also weighing in, calling into question Omar's response when asked about whether she married her brother in 2009 to commit immigration fraud and help him obtain U.S. legal status. [1:53] When asked whether or not she married her brother, she said, not to my knowledge. [1:59] You know, I've heard some bad political answers. I could go over a lot of them, but that would be about the worst. [2:07] Not to my knowledge. I don't think so. [2:11] Did you have children with your brother? I'm not sure. [2:15] The congresswoman's team saying this in response. [2:18] Quote, Representative Omar has repeatedly and unequivocally denied this baseless, disgusting conspiracy theory. [2:24] She denied it again and now on MSNOW. [2:27] And when pressed yet again responded sarcastically. [2:30] So President Trump is also calling for Omar to resign. Guys, back to you. [2:33] Yeah, that is not going away, this story. It's a lot bigger than anyone thought. [2:38] Thanks so much. And they just want to find out. [2:40] I mean, is the reason they do that they're asking for the DNA is because they have the brothers and are looking to compare it? [2:46] I mean, people don't have it. What does he need the DNA for? [2:49] But also, Brian, we're now down to bare bones of is her name accurate? [2:56] Right. [2:56] I mean, for a United States member of Congress, we don't know if their name. [3:03] What a poster child for closing down your borders and vetting properly when we don't know who represents us. [3:10] Well, and also, you think about there's a couple of points. [3:13] First of all, people have been noticing problems. [3:16] People in Minnesota, local reporters, different people have been coming forward and saying something shady here, something shady here. [3:24] And the local media in Minnesota would squash it. No one wanted to talk about it. [3:28] When people talk about this election, this is something you should look at. [3:33] Nobody is a baller like President Trump to take this on because this was a black woman. [3:38] She was Somali. You knew you were going to get a lot of blowback. [3:41] And everybody saw this as a hot potato and they wanted to avoid it. [3:45] Well, all the fraud is in her district. [3:47] And the fraud in her district that's been exposed. [3:49] And there's a lot to this. [3:52] But also to remember, the fact that she made that this fraud went this far, she is able to get, you know, classified information. [4:02] This is a national security problem if we have someone in Congress that we don't know who she is. [4:07] And we already know she's not that loyal to this country. [4:11] You know, she won the lottery as far as I'm concerned when her and her family were able to come to this country. [4:17] And since they've come, she has been the most ungrateful anti-American congresswoman I have ever seen enter those halls. [4:27] And so this is really important. [4:29] And when you're going to the polls, you think about somebody who can expose this kind of stuff, only President Trump would have done that. [4:35] I just find it fascinating, real quick, that all of these people that go down for fraud caused such a stir before. [4:43] Like, if you're a mastermind in this criminal behavior and you have all this baggage of illegal activity. [4:51] Keep your mouth shut. [4:52] Won't you? [4:52] Yeah, just stay under the wire. [4:54] It's like. [4:55] Shows the entitlement. [4:56] She thought that the United States government was a joke. [4:59] Yeah. [5:00] That we would never invest in. [5:01] That we would never go. [5:01] And in many ways, and to this administration. [5:04] That's right. [5:05] They were. [5:06] Yeah. [5:06] That's right. [5:07] Hey, I don't see AOC and these others running to her defense. [5:09] Because they know there's a lot of there. [5:10] Yeah, that's such an interesting point. [5:12] Where is the squad? [5:13] Just President Obama. [5:14] Suddenly she's all alone. [5:14] Yeah. [5:15] Just President Obama saying, how dare you weaponize the government? [5:18] Yeah. [5:19] Tell that to James Rosen, President Trump. [5:21] Exactly. [5:21] How about that? [5:22] Meanwhile, just 11 days from Election Day and Democrats are hammering home a dose of far-left ideas and a classic Kamala Harris word salad as their final message to voters sounds like this. [5:34] Fox News alert. [5:35] Ilhan Omar's finally talking. [5:37] She just gave her first interview since federal agents raided her home. [5:40] Well, I mean, you don't show up to somebody's house that early in the morning unless you're trying to freak them out. [5:51] And, you know, it obviously did freak all of us out. [5:56] I only had two and a half hours of sleep when they came, you know, pounding on the doors. [6:02] Raid happened at 6 a.m. [6:03] That means Omar went to bed at 3.30. [6:05] What was she doing all night? [6:07] None of my business. [6:08] Hayes asked the obvious question, are you prepared to go to prison? [6:14] Are you confident that you're going to come out on the other side of this with your freedom in tact? [6:23] I'm confident in my truth. [6:25] I'm confident in the fact that I didn't do anything wrong. [6:28] I'm confident in the fact that, you know, if there were real people who were not politically motivated like there were real people in 2019 and there were real people in 2024, [6:41] when they looked at my husband and my finances, yeah, there would be no indictment. [6:50] What's her truth? [6:52] There's no such thing as her truth. [6:54] There's just the truth. [6:57] And she could have gone anywhere for her first interview, but she went to Chris Hayes, [7:01] who might as well hold a mop when he's asking questions, because all this guy does is clean up scandal, or at least try to. [7:10] People have to take you at your word that that's true and that there's nothing else. [7:15] Is that what you are saying? [7:18] Yes. [7:19] Oh, of course. [7:20] We all know how that ended. [7:22] Then there's the money. [7:23] Last year, Omar's financial disclosure said she and her husband, Tim, were worth up to $30 million. [7:29] What is your financial situation? [7:32] I mean, it's, you know, working, working class, I guess, like paycheck to paycheck still. [7:37] You know, we've got four kids. [7:38] We live, I think, like a basic life. [7:40] I have a Toyota Camry that's from 2016. [7:44] It's my only car. [7:45] I rent my D.C. place and my Minneapolis place. [7:50] Not majority of Congress, but there's some of us that are, that don't come from wealth and don't have wealth. [7:55] She went from $30 million to living paycheck to paycheck. [7:59] How'd that happen? [8:00] Her husband has two businesses, a venture capital firm and a winery. [8:04] How'd those businesses suddenly go belly up? [8:08] The minute after we started sniffing around. [8:10] Turns out the businesses are saddled with debt. [8:13] So much they're worthless. [8:15] Even Chris Hayes is like, your husband's not very good at his job. [8:20] A financial disclosure for Congress that initially said that your husband's firm was worth $30 million. [8:26] That was before an accountant put in the liabilities of that firm, which then brought the $30 million down to, like, essentially net zero, $20,000. [8:36] Which did make me worry a little about your husband's business, to be honest. [8:40] He's not in them anymore. [8:42] I was like, well, that seems like a big difference between $30 million and $20,000. [8:46] He's not in them anymore. [8:48] Well, that's news to us. [8:50] Her own filing from May still lists both companies as his. [8:54] Nine days after she fixed the form, the winery, dissolved. [8:58] Investigators aren't just following the money, though. [9:02] They're following the family. [9:04] So Chris Hayes asks about her ex-husband, Ahmed Elmi. [9:09] Who was this man that was your husband? [9:11] When did they start saying that he was your brother? [9:14] Why? [9:16] It started with the Somali blog. [9:18] Somebody put in there that, you know, that he had to have been my brother or something. [9:22] Right-wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it, which is, you know, just insane. [9:30] You were not related to him at all. [9:32] Not that. [9:32] There's not some weird kernel of truth that's through some game of telephone. [9:35] Not to my knowledge. [9:36] Not to my knowledge. [9:39] Not to my knowledge. [9:42] So it could have been your brother, but you didn't know it at the time? [9:46] Come on. [9:47] If you asked me that same question about, let's say, my sister, I would say, no. [10:03] She said, not to my knowledge. [10:05] That tells you a lot right there. [10:07] No, she's, I've never been a big fan of hers. [10:10] I'll be honest. [10:11] Let's see how it all works out. [10:12] But that statement tells you a lot. [10:15] Now Omar's office says, ah, she was just being sarcastic. [10:20] Representative Omar's repeatedly and unequivocally denied this basis, discussing conspiracy theories. [10:24] She denied it again on MSNOW. [10:25] And when pressed it again, responded sarcastically. [10:28] Spokesman said she called those questions a desperate smear to distract from design to Trump's failed presidency [10:34] and two years of Republican failure in Congress. [10:38] Jerry Springer used to solve this the old-fashioned way. [10:41] DNA. [10:43] Multiple outlets have reported the feds have her sample. [10:46] There was reporting they took DNA? [10:49] No. [10:50] They did not? [10:51] No. [10:52] Do you know that for a fact that they didn't take, like, a toothbrush or a comb or something like that? [10:56] None of that was listed. [10:58] Okay. [10:58] Because they have to give you a receipt of the items that are seized. [11:02] DNA or not, they may have found something bigger. [11:06] Another Fox News alert. [11:10] According to two people familiar with the investigation, Ilhan Omar isn't even her real name. [11:16] So who is she? [11:17] You get your own name. [11:19] Then you get your father's, then you get your father's, then your grandfather's. [11:22] So the names after Ilhan confirm who her father is and who her siblings are. [11:37] But Omar's dad, who served in the Somali military, under the name Nur Saeed, ring a bell? [11:46] It should. [11:47] Her ex-husband is Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi. [11:52] That's the man a lot of people suspect is her brother. [11:55] The two names are awfully close. [11:57] The two names are awfully close. [11:57] Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi and Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi. [12:02] Hmm. [12:04] Could this be one big coincidence? [12:06] Sure. [12:06] It's possible. [12:08] Those are common Somali names. [12:10] But it's probably what investigators are looking at. [12:13] In 2017, Omar filed for a default divorce from her then-husband, meaning she told the court [12:20] she hadn't seen him in six years. [12:22] So where has he been? [12:23] Apparently hiding in plain sight. [12:26] Last December, The New York Post reported he'd surfaced on Instagram and was believed to be in [12:32] Johannesburg. [12:33] This is him. [12:35] Little flamboyant. [12:37] In one post, he called himself Dirty Dandy. [12:40] The University of Bristol lists him as a PhD researcher and teacher where he specializes in [12:47] anti-LGBTQ plus moral panics, mediated queerphobia, and post-colonial queer politics. [12:57] He was a visiting doctoral scholar at the Witt Center for Diversity Studies in South Africa, [13:02] where he researched African queer epistemologies. [13:07] His thesis? [13:08] Bravery admits brutality, a queer resistance to violence and criminalization in contemporary Kenya. [13:15] Here he is giving a speech on platforms of peril, queer violence, and resistance in Kenya's digital sphere. [13:24] So the entirety of his scholarly work is about the safety of queer people in Africa. [13:29] Why? [13:31] Is it because he was queer in Africa? [13:35] Could be. [13:36] We don't know. [13:37] And we also don't care. [13:39] But it raises a question. [13:40] Did Omar marry a gay guy? [13:43] Did she marry her brother? [13:45] Or did she marry her gay brother? [13:47] Or did she marry a straight guy who later came out as gay? [13:50] Maybe he is straight and just is incredibly obsessed with queers in Africa? [13:57] And whatever it is, the feds are going to find out. [14:01] Jeannie Imperio, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. [14:05] Okay, Judge Ilhan Omar, is that her real name? [14:09] Her real name is Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi. [14:16] You had it absolutely right. [14:18] Her sister is Sahra Nur Saeed Elmi. [14:23] And her sister actually wrote a book and talked about the fact that Ilhan is her sister. [14:31] So that is her name. [14:34] And that name is almost identical to the name of the guy she married. [14:42] Is that what is tipping you off? [14:47] Well, obviously, Jesse, I'm not going to tell you what's tipping us off. [14:51] But what I can tell you is this. [14:53] There are a lot of questions that we have. [14:58] And of course, you know, if you have citizenship in this country, your derivative citizenship [15:05] or your naturalization, your application will turn on precise information. [15:13] And you have an obligation to report that precise information. [15:18] So the question is, you know, who is Ilhan Omar? [15:22] And has she followed all of the laws as it relates to naturalization and immigration? [15:30] And of course, you know, my job as a United States attorney in the District of Columbia [15:35] is to go after all public corruption. [15:38] And we do it, whether we do it with police officers [15:41] or maybe you're involved in some kind of fraud or child sex trafficking [15:46] or a councilman who is alleged to take bribes [15:49] in the amount of $156,000 [15:52] or a military naval admiral who took bribery [15:56] or someone at the Federal Reserve [15:58] who is selling secrets to China. [16:02] These are all situations where we make sure [16:05] that irrespective of whether you're a Democrat [16:08] or you're a Republican, we're coming after you. [16:11] If you lie and if you're involved in public corruption. [16:13] Just to confirm, Ilhan Omar is living and working in Congress under an alias? [16:23] Well, you know, you'll have to ask her what she considers her name. [16:28] I mean, that is something that, you know, she can definitely tell you. [16:32] Okay. [16:32] What we're concerned about is whether or not she has followed the laws [16:37] as it relates to the use of these names. [16:40] And it's kind of like in Romeo and Juliet, [16:43] remember the Capulets and the Montagues, [16:45] it matters not who you are, but who you are not. [16:50] Copy. [16:51] I have to brush up on my Shakespeare. [16:54] Judge, she's denying that the feds have her DNA. [17:00] Do you have her DNA? [17:01] I'm not going to answer that, Jesse. [17:04] You know I'm not. [17:05] But I can tell you something. [17:07] If the feds want your DNA, [17:09] they don't have to go into your house to get it. [17:12] There are many ways to get an individual's DNA. [17:15] And I would imagine that most people in the audience know that as well. [17:19] Getting DNA doesn't necessarily mean you have to show up [17:23] and get some kind of a swab, a buckle swab, as we call them. [17:28] There are many ways to get them. [17:30] So she went from $30 million to like 80 grand. [17:34] Is the money missing? [17:37] Was there never any money? [17:39] What are you seeing? [17:42] What we're seeing is we're getting information. [17:45] We're looking at everything, [17:47] whether it's immigration or financial issues [17:49] or any kind of fraud or public corruption. [17:52] We're looking at all of it. [17:54] And the father reportedly served in the Somali military. [17:59] Was he honest when he came to this country about who he was? [18:02] You know, Jesse, you were so smart [18:05] when you talked about what is the reality [18:08] with the Somali naming convention. [18:11] You know, you take the name of your father [18:13] and the name of your grandfather, [18:15] and those names don't change when you get married. [18:19] And to answer your question specifically, [18:22] that is something that we're looking into. [18:24] Judge Jeanine Pirro, great to see you as always. [18:26] We miss you on The Five. [18:28] Good luck. [18:28] Miss you too. [18:29] Thanks, Jesse. [18:31] Happy DEI Thursday. [18:33] Plus, Johnny goes to Brown. [18:37] Should men play in women's sports? [18:39] Should there be a break in sports? [18:40] You'd be okay with men tackling women in football? [18:43] I see no problem with that.