Donald Trump has 'killed' the MAGA movement, says Marjorie Taylor Greene — 7.30

[0:00] Marjorie Talleygreen, welcome to 7.30. [0:02] Thank you. [0:03] Donald Trump said the result last night, it's not his fault, [0:07] it's the fault of others for not following him closely enough. [0:10] What do you say? [0:12] The results from last night was a referendum on Donald Trump [0:15] and Donald Trump only. [0:17] He told everyone for the past year, [0:19] vote like I am on the ballot. [0:22] And the American people did. [0:24] And it's certainly understandable why. [0:27] You know, I fought very hard for President Trump, [0:30] campaigned for him all over the country, [0:32] spent millions of my own dollars, [0:33] endorsed many Republican candidates. [0:36] And I was probably spoke at more rallies [0:39] than any other elected Republican. [0:41] And we promised the country a very specific agenda, [0:44] make America great again, put America first. [0:47] And he chose to go a different direction, [0:49] literally the first two years of his presidency. [0:51] Can you explain what you think happened? [0:55] Because a lot of Republicans actually did vote, [0:59] they didn't stay at home as people often do in the midterms. [1:02] They went out to vote, but they voted Democrat. [1:05] So what actually drove people to shift their vote [1:08] and for independence also to break? [1:10] Yes, Democrats had a massive turnout. [1:13] However, there was a contingent that stayed home. [1:16] And those numbers will be filtering out over the few days. [1:18] And I really am interested in seeing that. [1:22] And those are the very disaffected MAGA. [1:26] It's just a large collection of different types of people. [1:29] And they were just angry and said, [1:31] how can we support this? [1:32] It's complete betrayal. [1:33] But then you had a massive amount of it, [1:35] especially young voters, women, Hispanics, [1:39] that swung hard for the Democrats [1:41] because they were out saying the message that we actually said in 2024. [1:45] And so it shows that American voters haven't really changed in what they want. [1:50] They want an end to the corruption. [1:52] They want a cost of living that's affordable. [1:55] They want cheap gas and diesel. [1:58] My goodness, you can't blame them. [1:59] They want affordable health care. [2:01] And they want politicians to focus on them [2:03] instead of the special interest and the elite, rich, powerful donors. [2:07] J.D. Vance says, if anyone is honest, it's all about the war. [2:12] Is he right? [2:12] No, he's wrong. [2:14] He's looking for a place to land in this issue, which is understandable. [2:18] He's the vice president. [2:20] I was the first Republican in Congress to endorse J.D. Vance when he ran for the Senate. [2:26] I was part of the small group, myself, Tucker Carlson, Don Jr., Charlie Kirk. [2:31] We pushed for him to be the vice president. [2:34] J.D. Vance's silence over the past two years, especially on the issue with the war [2:39] and Iran has been deafening. [2:41] And today he's coming out and finally speaking. [2:43] Well, it's very much a little bit too late. [2:46] Really, the issues come down to cost of living, gas and diesel, which was driven [2:52] by the Iran war and the Epstein files. [2:55] The Republicans have a serious problem with women in America. [3:00] And Republicans don't treat women very well. [3:02] And the way President Trump treated these victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his friends and other elites [3:11] all over the world was a very loud message to women in America. [3:16] And that's something that J.D. Vance can't stay silent on. [3:18] Let me just ask you about that, because you didn't complain about Donald Trump when he was crude [3:23] and nasty and even vile about women before the two of you fell out. [3:27] What's the difference between him being nasty to women then [3:31] and his treatment of women vis-a-vis the Epstein files? [3:35] Well, for a long time, I was very much a part of MAGA. [3:38] And I've already publicly stated quite a few times that I regret my participation in that. [3:45] But many of us, we supported Donald Trump because we thought we needed somebody [3:50] to get in there and fight for the American people. [3:52] And that's what he promised us. [3:54] So Donald Trump was kind of like our bad guy that was going to take it to the deep state, [3:59] drain the swamp. [4:00] Well, you know, he turned out to be the Trojan horse, and I called it early. [4:06] You've already talked about the fact that he was only in power to serve the elite [4:12] and his wealthy friends. [4:13] Explain what you mean by that. [4:15] Well, you can look at his actions. [4:17] So judge people not just by their words, but really look at their actions. [4:21] For example, I have one of the most conservative voting records in Congress. [4:26] That's history. [4:27] That's how I am defined. [4:28] I'm a conservative. [4:29] My values have never changed. [4:31] Let's look at Donald Trump's actions. [4:33] His, the White House became a revolving door of foreign leaders. [4:37] The dinners he had existed with the big tech CEOs, leaders of major industries, the defense industry, [4:47] and so forth. [4:48] And those are the people that he constantly entertained, where he pretty much forgot about [4:53] all the people that showed up to the MAGA rallies over and over for him. [4:57] One of the other things that J.D. Vance is talking about this morning is that Republicans are angry [5:02] about the U.S. relationship, or the supporters of Donald Trump, previous supporters of Donald Trump, [5:08] are angry about the U.S. relationship with Israel. [5:11] How important is that in driving people's votes, do you think? [5:16] It was a top issue, whether people like it or not. [5:20] It's, it's the fact that our government leaders and most of my colleagues that I served in Congress [5:25] with, the administration, the president himself, has basically lent themselves to be used by a [5:31] foreign country's government and military. [5:34] And you could, it's not just Israel. [5:35] If you filled that in with any other country, it would be equally as offensive. [5:39] But when you bring it down to a country, and I'll, I bring it very granular. [5:43] For me, it's really simple. [5:44] Israel has killed over 22,000 children in Gaza. [5:48] These aren't terrorists. [5:49] We're talking about kids. [5:51] And most Americans are so absolutely horrified and disgusted that our tax dollars by the billions [5:58] go to that country every single year. [6:00] That our military produced weapons and ammunition have been used to murder kids, [6:06] create over 70,000 orphans, thousands of children with amputated arms and legs. [6:11] And I think America spoke very loudly that we don't want politicians that are loyal to [6:16] AIPAC and loyal to a foreign country. [6:19] We want politicians and Americans, rightfully so, [6:22] deserve their elected leaders to be loyal to them and them only. [6:26] Elon Musk made a joke at your expense last night. [6:29] He referenced an old story about the space lasers. [6:32] Elon Musk put $450 million into Texas and got nothing in return. [6:39] What is the, what is the message from Texans to Elon Musk after that gigantic series of donations? [6:48] I haven't heard that clip. [6:49] So that's the first I've heard of it. [6:51] So he echoed a lie about me, a phrase that I never said, [6:55] um, that was created in the media and used as a smear campaign against me. [7:00] And has been, Snopes and others have written about it not being true. [7:04] Um, so I guess that shows he's a little bit upset, [7:08] mad at me that I'm right and he's wrong. [7:10] He took a bet with over $400 million and he lost. [7:14] And I resigned and refused to support President Trump and the current state of the Republican Party. [7:21] Uh, and I was vindicated last night. [7:23] Let me just ask you a question about these big issues that you're raising, [7:26] the Epstein files, uh, the relationship with Israel. [7:30] Do you want to see the Democratic Party investigating these issues as soon as they [7:36] take control of Congress in January? [7:39] Yes, I want to see everyone investigate that. [7:41] That's what the women deserve. The victims deserve it. [7:44] And, um, the fact that, that Republicans and the president and his administration [7:50] have tried to hide this and continue to fight to stop files from being released [7:55] is just, it's baffling to me. [7:58] Um, so yeah, I hope everyone investigates it. [8:01] And I really do hope the truth comes out. [8:03] So you anticipate we will see investigations in Congress on Epstein? [8:08] I haven't talked to any of them to confirm their plans, but I would think so and hope so. [8:13] Um, there's, uh, another issue along with the big money. [8:17] Also data centers clearly became a big issue in this election. [8:21] Is that going to continue to be a potent electoral issue in the United States? [8:26] Yes, and that's probably maybe another reason Ilan is upset. [8:30] The American people are opposed to data centers being built next to their farms, [8:34] next to their children's schools, in their communities. [8:37] And, um, rightfully so. [8:39] Many people don't want their land used that way, their water used that way. [8:43] Um, the loud noises that these things, things make, [8:47] maybe the danger to the environment. [8:49] And, um, that's something that Ilan and other big tech companies are very invested in. [8:55] And that's a, that's an issue that the president has fully gotten behind. [8:59] Um, so yeah, I think that'll continue to be a big issue. [9:02] Is this the beginning of the end of Donald Trump? [9:05] Yes. Of course. Um, and you can say that on, for many reasons. [9:11] Number one, he's now a lame duck. [9:13] This is the second half of his second administration by our constitution. [9:17] He cannot run for president again. [9:19] Um, he's also late in age, you know, he's in his eighties now. [9:24] And so this is, this Trump era is definitely, uh, on its way to sunset. [9:30] Is it also the end of MAGA as a force in American politics? [9:35] I think so. I think the MAGA movement's completely dead. [9:39] And Trump himself is the one that killed it. [9:42] Now, does that mean that Americans change the way they feel on issues and the things they want? [9:47] I don't think so. [9:48] Um, how that gets reorganized, I think that'll take some time to see. [9:53] Everybody want, everyone asks, are we having a third party? [9:56] Uh, what's, who's going to be the new leader of Republicans? [9:59] Who will be top of the ticket for 2028? [10:02] I think those answers don't come easily [10:05] and are actually going to have to take some time to sort themselves out. [10:08] And what happens to the populist right? [10:11] If MAGA is also over for you, what does become of the populist right in America? [10:16] Well, I think there's, I think like I was saying things, the ground is changing. [10:21] And issues that are important to the populist right are also important to the populist left. [10:26] I think what looks interesting to me for the future is where there can be common ground found [10:32] between the left and the right and people come together and work on those issues issue by issue. [10:38] Try to set aside the things that divide us and figure out how to solve the problems for the future. [10:44] I think that's what younger generations want. And so I foresee a future where the two parties [10:51] really don't have as much strong control as they have totally reigned in the past, [10:57] and perhaps a future where there are independent candidates or issue-based candidates [11:02] that don't have to exist within those two silos. [11:05] Do you regret your own contribution and role in making American politics more extreme? [11:12] You know, I think that I played a very significant part in championing the issues that are important [11:19] to Americans. I constantly push forward America first. I have been one of the loudest voices against [11:25] the now $40 trillion national debt. I am unapologetically pro-life. So many of the issues [11:32] I'm proud that I fought on, they're issues that are important to the American people. And I know that [11:38] people still thank me every day for taking up those causes. [11:41] Marjorie Taylor Greene, The Morning After, an extraordinary result. Thank you for joining us. [11:46] Yes, thank you.