About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Delia Ramirez WARNS Mullin over ICE detention live in front of the entire nation from Patriot Hearings, published November 5, 2026. The transcript contains 1,698 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"I want to be able to go through a list of them. First one, Secretary, as a former member of the House and Senate, are you clear that members of Congress have statutory oversight authority over federally funded detention facilities? Yes or no? I do with proper notice. When we're in a shutdown, it..."
[0:00] I want to be able to go through a list of them. First one, Secretary, as a former member of the
[0:05] House and Senate, are you clear that members of Congress have statutory oversight authority
[0:10] over federally funded detention facilities? Yes or no? I do with proper notice. When we're in a
[0:17] shutdown, it takes a little bit. Yes or no? Would you retract them? Andy, Kim, and I have visited
[0:23] multiple times. There is no yes or no on that. If you don't, I can sit right here and not answer
[0:26] any of your questions if it's going to be yes or no because there's a backstory behind that
[0:30] that Amy Kim and I talk again. 346, please. So, Secretary, are you familiar with the ICE
[0:38] National Detention Standard, Standard 4, Food Service, that establishes that food and ICE
[0:43] detention must be nutritious and hygienic? Are you familiar with the standard? That's a pretty
[0:48] easy yes or no. Are you familiar with the standard? There are rules and standards that you're required
[0:52] to follow. You've been saying this in the last 45 minutes we've been here. And still, you're
[0:57] disregarding what we know, which is that you're doing the same thing that your president and
[1:03] Miller want you to do.
[1:04] Here's what just happened in the U.S. Congressional hearing. Representative Delia Ramirez and Secretary
[1:10] Mullen faced off, with Ramirez pressing Mullen on detention center standards. Mullen initially
[1:17] stuck to yes or no answers, but faced pushback from Ramirez. Key moments. Mullen refused to retract
[1:24] comments about immigrant detainees' food, and Ramirez highlighted the impact on a U.S. citizen
[1:30] with stage 4 cancer, Kevin Gonzalez. Here's the full exchange.
[1:34] Thank you, Chairman. I appreciate it. Secretary Mullen, you have been now in office for 71 days,
[1:43] and you've been in this new role in 71 days of your watch. And I'll be honest with you, my office
[1:49] is getting more of the same. As you can see in the posters, I'm not going to go into details here,
[1:53] because I want to really focus on questions with you. So my questions are going to be yes or no,
[1:58] because I want to be able to go through a list of them. First one, Secretary. As a former member
[2:03] of the House and Senate, are you clear that members of Congress have statutory oversight authority
[2:09] over federally funded detention facilities? Yes or no? I do with proper notice. When we're in a
[2:15] shutdown, it takes a little bit more time. I'm reclaiming my time. I want to go to the second
[2:21] question here. Yes or no? Given that Senator Andy Kim was acting within his statutory oversight authority
[2:28] at Delaney Hall, would you retract your comments that a senator probably shouldn't have been there?
[2:34] Yes or no? Would you retract them? Andy Kim and I have visited multiple times. There is no yes or no on
[2:39] that. If you don't, I can sit right here and not answer any of your questions if it's going to be
[2:42] yes or no, because there's a backstory behind that that Andy Kim and I talked multiple times,
[2:46] and we let him into the center that day. Thank you. I want to go on to the next one. I am the member.
[2:56] I agree. We need to stop. We need to stop the clock. I said suspend. I said suspend. Okay. Again,
[3:07] the members are entitled to ask questions. The witness is entitled to answer them. He is here
[3:13] voluntarily. The members are entitled to ask their question. They cannot limit his answer. If they say
[3:23] yes or no and it's not a yes or no question, they want to reclaim their time. Chairman, if he's
[3:28] unwilling to answer, we're reclaiming and we're moving on. That's fine. You can reclaim your time.
[3:33] That's fine. But do not, you get to ask the question. The witness gets to answer it. He does,
[3:38] you do not get to tell him how to answer. Does he stop speaking? I'm still, it's still suspended.
[3:45] Okay. But this is for everyone. Not just, this is for everyone. Not just you. Again, I will. We can add the,
[3:51] because you did it. I think 10 more seconds back onto the clock. It's more like 20.
[3:58] 10 more seconds back onto the clock. So we're going back to another question. Let's get it. Let's get
[4:05] everything set. And then I will, I will let everything start again. 346, please. So secretary,
[4:13] are you familiar with the ICE national detention standard standard for food service that establishes
[4:19] that food and ICE detention must be nutritious and hygienic? Are you familiar with the standard?
[4:24] That's a pretty easy yes or no. Are you familiar with the standard? Thank you. So given ICE's standards
[4:29] and reports of decaying food confirmed by congressional oversight, would you retract your comments
[4:35] dismissing detainees concerns about rotten food as a desire for ethnic food? Would you retract those
[4:40] comments? I didn't say rotten food. I said they wanted ethnic correct food. And I said, this isn't a
[4:44] holiday inn. We're not providing that. But we did release a menu. And if you saw time, if you look time
[4:48] to look at the menu, it's pretty good food. So you're not retracting your comments. Okay. So let me just make sure I
[4:53] clarify. These questions were important because I know it shows this. You've been in Congress before
[4:57] you've been in the House and Senate. You understand the separation of powers. You know Congress's role.
[5:02] You understand that there are rules and standards that you're required to follow. You've been saying
[5:05] this in the last 45 minutes we've been here. And still you're disregarding what we know, which is that
[5:12] you're doing the same thing that your president and Miller want you to do, which is spew this garbage that
[5:18] makes immigrants criminals and that creates the standards and conditions for even children in
[5:23] detention to be living in inhumane conditions. You know what I call that? I call that being a tool.
[5:29] And let me tell you the impact of these actions. Kevin Gonzalez, my 18 year old US citizen constituent
[5:39] with stage four colon cancer. He wanted to see his parents one last time, secretary. But you rejected his
[5:47] parents' visa to come say goodbye to their son. In desperation, they came the only way that they
[5:55] knew how. They tried to cross the border. And when they tried to cross the border, they were detained by
[6:02] CBP in Arizona. They weren't just released so they can go back to Mexico. They sat in that detention center
[6:09] for one whole month. My office, the Mexican consulate and their legal team, they worked tirelessly to ensure
[6:17] that the Gonzalez family could be could be reunited because they knew that Kevin just had weeks to go
[6:22] that he could die at any time. He was diagnosed in January. Kevin, I want to show you the video. This
[6:34] is when he finally got to see his mother and father. Kevin went to Mexico. Hear that cry from that mother.
[6:45] What you're not seeing is the father is wrapped around his son's feet, crying hysterically after a month
[6:53] in detention. Secretary, Kevin died less than 24 hours after that engagement. So I want to ask
[7:02] for every parent in this room, including Secretary Mullen and including my colleagues on both sides of
[7:08] the aisle. Wouldn't you go at any length to be able to see your dying child one last time? You know, rejecting
[7:18] visas to Kevin's family, that didn't protect our communities. Family separation, that doesn't make any
[7:25] communities safer. So who then ends up benefiting from this? I'm going to tell you who benefits for
[7:31] profit prison corporations. They profit from cruelty and point. And you now are operating as a secretary
[7:39] inflicting cruelty and pain. And I have to say this for Kevin, for Virginia, his grandmother, who's my
[7:46] constituent. We will not forget the terror of ice. And we will not forget what DHS continues to do,
[7:53] even under your watch. We know that a better world is possible. We need something new. And that means,
[7:59] I will say it loudly so that you could go ahead and quote it if you need to. We need to abolish ice.
[8:03] And we need to dismantle DHS. And like I told your predecessor, secretary, I wouldn't get comfortable
[8:11] because you have to be held accountable. With that, I yield back.
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[8:16] First, the question that changed the room. Representative Delia Ramirez questions Secretary
[8:22] Mullen about his oversight authority and the conditions in detention centers. Representative
[8:27] Delia Ramirez said, first one, secretary, as a former member of members of Congress have statutory
[8:34] oversight authority over federally funded detention facilities. Yes or no, this exchange highlights the
[8:40] tension between legislative oversight and executive authority, emphasizing the urgency of addressing
[8:46] detention center standards amid allegations of inhumane conditions. Then, the answer.
[8:53] Representative Delia Ramirez presses Secretary Mullen on familiarizing himself with ice detention
[8:59] standards, specifically questioning his knowledge of food service provisions. Representative Delia Ramirez
[9:06] said, so, secretary, are you familiar with the ice national detention standard standard for food
[9:13] service that establishes that food and ice detention must be nutritious and hygienic? Are you familiar with
[9:20] the standard? This highlights the reps concern over the secretary's apparent lack of understanding of
[9:26] basic detention standards, suggesting a disconnect in leadership and oversight. If you want the hearings,
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[9:39] Rep. Delia Ramirez delivered a powerful closing statement, emphasizing the impact of DHS actions on
[9:47] families and calling for the abolition of ice. Rep. Delia Ramirez said, we will not forget the terror of ice,
[9:55] and we will not forget what DHS continues to do even under your watch. We.
[10:01] Her comments highlight the human cost of current policies and the need for change, underscoring
[10:08] the urgency of reform in homeland security practices. Did Rep. Ramirez call for the abolition of ice
[10:16] and dismantling of DHS? Yes or no? Tell us below, like and share.