Author Talk: Jennifer Welch — Not Today, Fascists - with Jim Acosta

[0:00] Tonight, we're excited to welcome Jennifer Welsh, [0:02] celebrating the release of her new book, [0:05] Not Today, Fascist, [0:06] The Lies That Got Us Here and The Truths That Will Reunite Us, [0:10] a piercing, incisive, no-holds-barred look [0:13] at the threat of theocracy in America [0:15] and a fresh vision on how we can take back our country. [0:19] Jennifer Welsh is the co-host of the wildly popular podcast [0:23] I've Had It and IHP News. [0:26] The author of Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwich, [0:30] say that three times fast. [0:33] Welsh also runs a successful interior design firm. [0:37] Welsh will be in conversation with journalist Jim Acosta, [0:40] host of The Jim Acosta Show and former anchor [0:42] and chief White House correspondent at CNN. [0:46] Please join me in welcoming Jennifer and Jim. [1:10] Hey, everybody. [1:12] Hello, Jen. [1:13] Hello, Jim. [1:14] Oh my goodness, we're gonna have some fun here. [1:16] Oh, yeah. [1:17] It's gonna get crazy. [1:19] Are there, is the National Guard here? [1:21] I guess we checked. [1:23] Down front, okay, very good. [1:26] I know, I didn't know about being this close to you-know-who. [1:29] I know, he's right down the street. [1:31] Apparently he left for a rally [1:33] because he's in some trouble. [1:34] I don't know if you've heard this. [1:35] Oh, yes. [1:36] Yeah, did you guys hear about this? [1:39] Four weeks before the election, [1:41] the midterms coming up? [1:42] He was in Oklahoma. [1:44] He went to your home state. [1:45] Which is like red, not a county, goes blue. [1:48] And I'm like, hmm, that's interesting. [1:50] If he's worried about Oklahoma, [1:51] I don't think things are going well. [1:53] That's just a hunch. [1:54] Yeah, I hope not. [1:56] But I'll tell you what, I don't know about you guys. [1:58] I have PTSD off of 2020 and 2024, [2:02] like trusting polls, because they're out there. [2:05] Like, I always have to, I was in an airport today, [2:08] and I'm looking around, I'm like, [2:10] they're MAGA, they're MAGA, they're MAGA. [2:12] I try to identify so I don't get lulled [2:15] into a safe sense of security. [2:18] Yeah, no, I agree with you. [2:20] And I've been noticing, I don't know about you guys, [2:22] but like, if you go out to the mountains [2:24] or you go, you know, maybe to the beach, [2:27] and you're driving around this area, the DC area, [2:29] you know, has a lot of great opportunities for having fun, [2:32] but you have to drive through areas [2:33] that might have been MAGA at one point [2:35] or Trumpy at one point. [2:36] I'm seeing a lot fewer Trump flags, [2:39] a lot fewer Trump bumper stickers. [2:40] Really? [2:41] I think when the gas prices go up, [2:43] the Trump flags come down. [2:44] That's my sense of it. [2:45] I don't know about you guys, but. [2:49] But Jen, it's so great to have you here [2:50] in the nation's capital. [2:51] This is my hometown. [2:52] I grew up around here. [2:54] And so, I get a little defensive [2:57] when they start fucking around with the reflecting pool [3:01] or putting his goddamn name on the Kennedy Center. [3:03] I was like, and when I showed up tonight, [3:05] I was like, is it gonna be called the Trump Theater [3:08] or is it still called the Lincoln Theater? [3:10] Oh my God. [3:11] If it was the Trump Theater, [3:12] we would have canceled. [3:13] We would have canceled. [3:14] That's true. [3:15] We could have just gone down the reflecting pool. [3:17] Apparently, nobody goes down there anymore. [3:19] So, it would have been just fine for us. [3:22] But I'm so excited to talk to you about your book, [3:24] Not Today Fascists. [3:28] Here it is right here. [3:29] Very subtle title. [3:31] Yes. [3:32] So, you know, I hear Stephen Miller all the time. [3:35] Like, you know, they use words like fascists [3:38] and they shouldn't use those words [3:39] because they're Antifa and they're domestic terrorists. [3:42] And so, when I was naming the book, [3:44] the publisher and I went back and forth [3:45] and they had a few things for me. [3:47] And I was like, it just, I don't have it yet. [3:48] It's gonna come to me. [3:50] And then all of a sudden, it hit me. [3:51] I was in the shower and I raced out [3:53] and I got my phone and I texted it to him, [3:55] Not Today Fascists. [3:57] And John Glenn is my publisher with Harper Collins. [3:59] He's a gay man. [4:00] And he responds, perfect. [4:01] And I was so glad that I didn't get pushback from them [4:07] about the title. [4:09] No, I love the title personally. [4:10] And I'm going to read a little portion. [4:12] Am I allowed to do reading? [4:13] Is that okay? [4:14] I think you should. [4:15] Dramatic reading by Jim Acosta, everybody. [4:17] I brought my glasses because that's the way it has to go. [4:22] But you, and you write about this in the book. [4:23] So why do I use the word fascism? [4:26] Because that's what we're talking about. [4:28] End of story. [4:29] And for any sanctimonious liberal or head in the sand neocon [4:32] who's upset at the impropriety of my word choice, [4:35] let me ask you, [4:36] why the hell are you providing cover to this regime? [4:40] If any chicken shit pearl clutchers [4:42] gets their panties in a wad [4:43] because we call Trump a fascist or a Nazi, [4:46] step aside and let the grownups fight. [4:48] I like that. [4:52] And this is what I tell people. [4:54] This is why I love Jen. [4:55] She does not hold back, you know? [4:56] And people have, you know, [4:58] I think some people felt like they had to hold back [5:00] after Trump came back into office. [5:02] The corporate media, [5:03] the legacy media felt like they had to hold back. [5:06] And what's so perfect about what you do, Jen, [5:09] is you don't hold back [5:10] and you read the moment perfectly. [5:12] You know, that was what was so horrible about Trump 2.0. [5:16] And I write about this in my book. [5:17] So strong men are propped up by oligarchs. [5:21] So he wouldn't be acting this brazenly [5:24] if all of these tech bro-ligarchs, [5:27] you know I'm talking about all of them, [5:29] they're propping him up. [5:30] And that's so devastating to see them do that. [5:34] And I kept thinking like, where's the resistance? [5:36] Where's the resistance? [5:37] But then you see, did you see Zach Bryant, [5:39] fellow Oklahoman at Gillette Stadium? [5:43] You see these people that are showing active signs [5:46] of resistance and it's us, it's all of us. [5:49] And together collectively, [5:51] I think that we have to call them fascists. [5:54] I mean, did you see Pete Hegsess? [5:56] We were talking about this backstage. [5:57] Pete Hegsess, like Nazi set up that he did yesterday. [6:01] And then they're like, hey, don't call us Nazis. [6:03] Well then maybe quit doing all the Nazi stuff. [6:06] Yeah, if you do Nazi shit, we're gonna call you Nazis. [6:10] I mean, it's kind of the way it goes. [6:13] Yeah, exactly. [6:14] And the stuff that he was saying the other day [6:15] about no fatties and no beardos and no weirdos. [6:19] I'm like, that sounds like the cabinet. [6:21] I'm just gonna- [6:22] I thought that was so disrespectful to the commander-in-chief. [6:26] I saw it, I thought so. [6:27] When you say no fatties, [6:29] that eliminates Kangol's McTaco tits. [6:32] If you say no trannies, [6:34] he does wear a full face of makeup every day. [6:36] It's a lot of makeup. [6:37] Beardo and a weirdo, that's J.D. Vance, [6:40] our little smoky-eyed sociopath. [6:42] That's right, hide the couch. [6:44] Yeah, he literally eliminated the whole cabinet. [6:47] But as I watch him do all of that, [6:50] I think like, what happened to you? [6:53] Remember his mother wrote that letter [6:55] begging him to quit abusing women? [6:57] Right. [6:58] And somehow the press got a hold of it. [7:00] And then she went out and defended it. [7:02] But these men are just so incredibly broken. [7:04] And more than that, what pisses me off [7:06] is they're just, on top of them acting like tough guys, [7:09] they're such, pardon my language here, [7:11] they're such pussies. [7:13] All of them, you know? [7:15] They're just, they cannot have a position, [7:18] stand in it, in anything. [7:20] If you and I go after them, [7:21] if we call them fascist, stage five meltdown. [7:24] We call, we talk about, [7:25] we're talking backstage about the bunny boiler, [7:27] you know, Natalie Harp. [7:29] Natalie Harp, yeah. [7:30] And the conservatives are like, [7:33] you shouldn't talk about Natalie Harp. [7:34] And I'm like, since when? [7:36] I mean, you guys talked about, [7:38] when we're in power, you talk about everything. [7:40] That's just what comes with the territory. [7:42] Exactly, and Natalie Harp was on OAN, [7:45] that crazy right-wing network, [7:47] peddling conspiracy theories about the election. [7:49] As far as I'm concerned, she's fair game. [7:51] But you didn't mention my favorite nickname that you have, [7:55] which is, is it Big Titty Brian? [7:57] Oh, Big Titty Brian. [7:58] Big Titty, yeah. [8:00] I have a soft spot for Big Titty Brian. [8:02] Why do you have a soft spot for Big Titty Brian? [8:05] By the way, I love doing this with Jen, [8:07] because I get to say these words too. [8:11] This is what makes it fun for me. [8:12] So forgive me, family and friends. [8:14] I love the Big Titty Brian story so much, [8:17] because Kristi Noem, you know, [8:20] she has her Christian cross and she talks about God [8:24] and, you know, President Trump and the Lord [8:27] and all of this stuff. [8:29] And I know the more somebody Christian signals like that, [8:34] the more fucked up they are. [8:35] And I know that from living in the Bible Belt. [8:37] Like, whoever is that overtly religious, [8:41] their husband is downstairs on OnlyFans with Big Titty [8:45] saying he wants to be a trans bimbo slut named Crystal. [8:49] And the thing about it is, like, poor Brian, [8:53] he has had to live in the closet. [8:55] He had to wear Christie's pink panties. [8:57] You know, like, there's a whole world [8:59] where Big Titty Brian can get him some silicone titties and- [9:03] Get some real ones. [9:04] Yeah. [9:06] But he's trapped in this horrific shame cycle [9:09] with all these sexually repressed Republicans. [9:12] And I just, to me, it's so fucking perfect. [9:17] Yeah. [9:18] Like, that is the most perfect MAGA family. [9:22] I was just like, of course, her husband has big titties [9:27] and wants to be a trans bimbo slut. [9:30] It surprised me zero, because in the Bible Belt, [9:33] the Bible Belt is chock full of freaky Christian people [9:38] like this, who on the surface are hateful, [9:40] judgmental, sanctimonious. [9:42] And then behind the scenes, [9:44] they've got all sorts of stuff going on. [9:46] And here, nobody here, if you have a kink, [9:49] swing for the fences, nobody cares. [9:51] But don't be a religious hypocrite [9:53] and beat up on the LGBTQ plus community, [9:57] single women, independent, you know, [10:00] if somebody doesn't want to marry, [10:02] that's what bugs me about it. [10:03] But I can just tell you from, like, [10:05] tales from the Bible Belt, [10:07] my most religious married friends, it's Swinger City. [10:11] It's like, it's always, I'm always like, [10:14] of course y'all are like this when you drink. [10:16] It's perfect, absolutely perfect. [10:19] And Josh and I are like, [10:20] well, we got to go relieve the babysitter right now. [10:22] Yeah, we're not staying for the key party [10:25] or whatever the, yeah. [10:26] The pineapple party. [10:27] Whatever it is, yeah. [10:28] And the other thing about Kristi Noem too, [10:30] she's a puppy killer, like, fuck you. [10:32] And a goat. [10:33] And a goat, we always forget the goat. [10:35] We forget the goat. [10:36] We forget the goat, that's true. [10:37] The poor little goat. [10:39] But you know, I remember when that story broke out [10:41] that she shot the dog. [10:43] And I thought, Trump's gonna hire her. [10:45] Yeah, I thought that was, [10:47] he probably saw that as a positive. [10:48] Yes. [10:49] That's a qualification, yeah. [10:50] Yeah, it's like, there's no bottom for these people. [10:53] And having something that is so depraved [10:56] in your itiner, in your resume, [11:00] it's like a prerequisite. [11:02] Pete Hexeth was sexually, [11:04] allegedly sexually assaulted somebody, [11:06] paid that person $50,000. [11:08] Now he is lecturing everybody at the Pentagon. [11:13] And he, on top of doing all the no fatty, no tranny, [11:16] all that crazy shit, [11:18] his Christian nationalism that he is pushing [11:21] at the Pentagon is, [11:23] this is the stuff that I write about a lot in my book. [11:25] This is what really terrifies me. [11:27] Because growing up in Oklahoma, [11:28] I had atheist parents, [11:29] I'm sure I talk about that all the time, [11:31] but I'm trying to normalize for people [11:33] like just being secular and that you're not an asshole [11:35] or like a demon. [11:37] And so I was called that a lot in Oklahoma, [11:41] a lot, they still call me that, [11:43] on the internet. [11:45] And- [11:47] Me too. [11:49] But it's these people, [11:53] these really religious people [11:54] have been doing this long before Donald Trump. [11:57] Christian nationalism started in these red Bible Belt states, [12:01] and they have been so focused and so ambitious, [12:05] and they're stupid and they're dangerous [12:07] and they're ambitious all at the same time. [12:10] And they planted these seeds. [12:11] And now the fringe that I grew up around, [12:15] like the crazy people that went to these crazy Christian camps, [12:19] whose parents were like Kristi Noem [12:20] and Big Titty Brian on the weekends, [12:22] and they're there in Oklahoma. [12:26] And then now they're in the White House. [12:29] And then I think about like that Paula White, [12:31] that woman all the time. [12:32] Oh God, Paula White. [12:34] Have you seen her? [12:35] She speaks in tongues at the White House, [12:37] like right down the street. [12:38] They're speaking in tongues in the White House. [12:40] You're not supposed to do that here. [12:42] You're supposed to do that in the Bible Belt. [12:43] And so for me, I'm like, [12:46] if they're doing this federally, [12:48] like I always thought, [12:50] well, at least we'll have a federal government [12:51] that will protect us from these loons. [12:54] So it's been incredibly traumatizing [12:56] to see these idiots that I grew up around that mindset [12:59] ascend to having this much power. [13:03] No, and you mentioned earlier, [13:05] and I think it's a perfect segue, [13:08] Elon Musk, the tech bros, the oligarchs. [13:11] I mean, I had an event here last year [13:12] where we had a lot of ex-federal employees, [13:15] people who had been laid off and doged, [13:17] who had been just completely screwed over by doge. [13:19] It's unreal. [13:20] Like Elon Musk is coming apparently back to the Pentagon [13:23] to help Pete Hegseth with all the crazy stuff he's doing there. [13:27] What do you think of this moment with these tech bros [13:29] and these oligarchs who have just really, [13:32] I mean, they've made Donald Trump [13:33] and what he's done in the second term possible. [13:35] I know you write about this in the book. [13:36] Completely. Yeah, they propped him up. [13:38] And what concerns me about all of this [13:40] is that they are putting their software into our government. [13:45] They are enmeshing their product with the federal government. [13:50] And of course, like Elon Musk, [13:52] I can't believe I'm even saying this, [13:53] but this is real, we all saw it. [13:55] He's tripping balls on ketamine, [13:57] strolls into the Oval Office with a black eye, [14:00] his kids wiping boogers on the desk. [14:02] Then after that, he's like, [14:04] Trump's a pedophile on Twitter. [14:06] And they're like, oh, big breakup. [14:08] And now they're back together again. [14:09] I mean, my hope is that these tech oligarchs [14:12] start cannibalizing each other a little bit [14:14] because I imagine they're all so narcissistic. [14:17] But, and at some point they will do that, [14:19] but it's very concerning how cozy they are with the federal government. [14:24] And furthermore, what they have in common is really interesting to me [14:29] with Christian nationalists is grievances. [14:33] Like white Christian nationalists have a grievance that this immigrant might get something, [14:39] or this black person might get something, [14:41] or this gay person might get something. [14:42] Well, have you read any of these, like Bill Ackman or Elon Musk Twitter feed, [14:50] or what's his name, Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan, [14:53] who said that he felt neutered when Joe Biden was president? [14:57] And the grievance these people have is what kind of puts them together. [15:01] And I think what mystifies me so much is these men literally have fuck you money. [15:08] Like if I had that kind of money and somebody's like, [15:11] the president wants to see you, I'd go, tell him, I said, fuck you, fuck Melania, [15:16] fuck all the way down to Barron, fuck all of them, all of them. [15:22] Can you imagine having a bank account that would choke a bull and you are not free? [15:29] You are enslaved to him. [15:31] I think that's a pretty fascinating thing that they are, [15:35] they're scared to do certain things or say certain things because he controls them. [15:40] Yeah. [15:41] No, and they're soulless. [15:43] I mean, that's the other part of this too. [15:45] You wrote about this in the book too. [15:46] If Kamala had won the election, they probably all would have lined up and slobbered all over [15:51] her and done what, you know. [15:53] Exactly. [15:54] And it's because Trump is there, they've taken us all down this very dark, [15:58] into this very dark place. [15:59] And I mean, to me, the other thing that I love about this book is you get into the cruelty [16:05] of what we've seen during the second administration, the killing of Renee Goode, the killing of [16:09] Alex Preddy, what ice has unleashed in this country and places like Minneapolis. [16:14] We've experienced here in Washington DC too. [16:17] And that, I think that goes back to the very, you know, first person that you mentioned [16:22] in all of this, Steven Miller, he's one of these guys who's pulling the strings behind [16:26] the scenes. [16:27] Yeah. [16:28] So definitely their appetite for what I call recreational cruelty was something that was [16:35] familiar to me because my most religious friends growing up in Oklahoma, you can imagine like [16:43] evangelical Christians have like a tick to save everybody. [16:46] It's like, like a, an addict junkie got to get a hint. [16:50] We have to save everybody. [16:51] So when they found out, where do you go to church? [16:53] I don't go to church. [16:54] Are you a believer? [16:55] No. [16:56] Have you been saved? [16:57] I'm like, from what? [16:58] So my whole life, they were constantly trying to recruit me and I found it really interesting [17:04] growing up. [17:05] And I didn't really piece all this together until later, but these Christians were so cruel [17:14] towards poor people or towards sick people. [17:17] An example of this is I remember my mother played bunko. [17:20] Do you remember when all the ladies played bunko back in the day? [17:23] So my mom went to play bunko with all these uber religious women and she didn't really like [17:28] them at all, but she was trying to be social. [17:31] And I remember she came home and she goes, Oh, Jennifer, those women are just horrible. [17:35] I go, what'd they do? [17:36] She said, well, they were just all upset about some Abercrombie and Fitch ad thought that [17:41] the kids looked like they were all sexed up and they thought it was all this sex. [17:45] And I just finally said, what's more egregious is that all of those clothes were made in sweat [17:51] chops using child labor. [17:53] It's true. [17:55] Yeah. [17:56] And of course that just went right over their head. [18:00] Yeah. [18:01] They were like, what are you talking about child labor? [18:02] They, they did. [18:03] They were just so concerned about the sex of it. [18:06] And I remember watching my friends and their families and how cruel they were about like [18:15] people that maybe were on welfare or were on food stamps. [18:18] I remember particularly being at this friend's house and they were watching, I think it was [18:23] Fox or maybe Fox hadn't started yet. [18:26] And they were talking about, well, all of these lazy, uh, people on welfare. [18:30] And I remember I said, well, they can't have it that good. [18:33] Can they, if they're on welfare, it can't be like high times or anything, but they just, [18:38] there's a cruelty to enjoying punching down. [18:42] And that's not new with Trump. [18:44] And so that's why this, this merger of Christian nationalists who've been like focused on this [18:49] for decades. [18:50] And then these amoral psycho billionaires, I mean, this is bad. [18:55] It's bad. [18:56] It is bad. [18:57] Um, but Jen, maybe you can tell us a little bit why you made this, cause you used to be [19:03] sort of a famous interior decorator and you had your own TV show for a while and all that. [19:08] But then you launched into this where you're like this fire breathing dragon of truth, which we, [19:15] you know, like it's, it's amazing. [19:17] But was there a moment? [19:18] Was there something that, that like set off a switch that you said, I gotta, I gotta get [19:23] into this. [19:24] I gotta tear this. [19:25] Cause you do, you do talk a lot about how you feel let down by Democrats and democratic [19:30] leaders. [19:31] I do. [19:32] And I think a lot, I mean, I see this a lot when I do my show. [19:34] I hear this from a lot of people who are just like, I've had it up to here with Schumer [19:38] and Jeffries and that, you know, was it, I know Trump and MAGA, they pissed us all off, [19:47] but was there something that where Democrats were not meeting the moment where you said, [19:52] I need to, I need to, you know, push some buttons here and light a fire into these guys. [19:57] So when we first, when Angie and I first started the podcast, it really wasn't political, but [20:01] anybody who's known me will be, she's will say she's always been that bitch. [20:07] Like I've always been the person in Oklahoma city when, and I have really progressive friends [20:14] in Oklahoma city, very, very progressive friends. [20:16] But then I would have to hang out with Angie's friends are all very Republican, very conservative. [20:22] And so I would hang out with them and like, maybe healthcare would come up and they're [20:27] also, all of our friends are very religious and be like, well, I'm not for socialized [20:31] healthcare. [20:32] And I'd be like, but aren't you a Christian? [20:34] And so I've always kind of had these little confrontational things with people, but I'd [20:38] always host political fundraisers for Democrats. [20:40] They always lost, I always voted for Democrats. [20:43] They always lost in my state, but I've always been incredibly political. [20:48] And so has my husband, Josh. [20:50] And when we started talking about our podcast, we were, when we first started, it was kind [20:54] of safe. [20:55] Biden was president and then it escalated where you could tell Trump was gaining steam and [21:00] I can't help it. [21:01] Like I have to speak out when I see injustice. [21:04] The difference is I've always spoken like this. [21:06] I just happen to have a microphone in my hand. [21:09] And so then I started speaking about a lot and then it just kind of took off. [21:13] After Kamala lost, when the Senate confirmation votes came in and like Democrats were voting [21:21] for people in his cabinet, I had steam coming out of my ears because I knew I'm like, even [21:28] the Marco Rubio vote was 99 votes for little Marco. [21:34] And I thought to myself, it's disqualifying what Marco, what we all saw Donald Trump do. [21:41] And that's even before you get to the adjudicated rapist, the Central Park Five, the 34 felonies. [21:51] He tried to have Mike Pence hung right down the street from here. [21:57] And he unleashed all of these crazy rubes. [22:01] And it was funded by a bunch of his rich, corrupt friends. [22:05] They never went after them. [22:07] And I just thought, anybody who could see what he did on January 6th and think, I'm going [22:11] to go work for him, is inherently disqualified. [22:14] So I immediately was furious with Democrats that like, and even Bernie, who I really like, [22:19] voted to confirm Marco Rubio. [22:21] I thought, is the Senate not just the biggest asshole buddy thing on the planet? [22:25] Are you kidding me? [22:26] Like is there one person who will say, I'm not voting for little Marco? [22:31] Because who's going to stand up for Mike Pence? [22:33] I mean, I'm not going to, but I mean, you know, it's just- [22:38] And they voted for him because they thought, well, he's one of the normies. [22:42] He'll keep Trump from doing the crazy shit. [22:44] And then Trump did a war in the Middle East anyway, something that he said he would not [22:47] do. [22:48] And everybody's paying through the nose for gas. [22:50] And all of the neocons in Trump 1.0, every single one of them. [22:54] And I hated these people. [22:56] What's his name? [22:57] John Bolton. [22:58] Cognit neocons. [22:59] They all come out from working on him. [23:01] Rex Tillerson. [23:02] All these assholes come out, right? [23:04] They come out and they're like, yeah, he's a fascist. [23:07] Like, he's really an idiot too. [23:10] And then the Senate starts voting to confirm these people. [23:13] And I think probably all of you here, Trump 2.0 has been so frustrating because the people [23:19] we want to show us an example of resistance haven't. [23:26] Whether it's industry titans that we give money to or whether it's politicians. [23:32] And then when I look at Chuckles and Hakeem, I'm just like, come on, guys. [23:37] I mean, sit this out. [23:40] I mean, like, you got to get scrappy. [23:42] I know. [23:43] And Hakeem Jeffries, the other day, he has this meeting with Jared Kushner. [23:46] And I'm like, Mr. How many billions of dollars did he make in the Middle East while he's also [23:52] trying to negotiate a peace deal? [23:54] Give me a break. [23:56] I'm just going to say it. [23:58] I want Barron, Jared, I'm going to throw Tiffany in, of course, Dumb and Dumber. [24:04] Tiffany. [24:05] Oh, gosh. [24:06] Even Tiffany. [24:07] I want them all investigated. [24:08] Every single one of them investigated. [24:10] Now, I don't want, it's not like I have a rabid, like, lock them up mentality. [24:17] But I want them to lock some of them up maybe soon. [24:21] I want them to have trials. [24:24] And I want, if they stole money or they were improper business dealings, all of their money [24:28] taken away. [24:29] It's just, it's so jarring. [24:32] We were in it every day, you and me, and obviously all of you were so politically engaged. [24:36] But when you stop and you like step back and look at it, it's like something that you think [24:43] would happen in a different country. [24:45] And then when I started really thinking about what caused this, I do believe, and I talk [24:51] about this in here, that it's corporate politics, which both parties play in. [24:58] Republicans and Democrats serve as corporations, which set the psychological soil for this idiotic [25:06] demagogue to rise to this kind of power. [25:09] Totally. [25:10] And I mean, one of those corporations that is enabling Donald Trump and the Republicans these [25:15] days is Fox. [25:17] Is Fox. [25:18] And Jen, you and I have a lot of fun talking about our friends over at our… [25:22] Lady Waters. [25:23] Lady Waters over at Fox News. [25:25] Yeah. [25:26] Can we dive into Lady Waters a little bit? [25:28] Yeah. [25:29] Yeah. [25:30] What's going on there? [25:31] Lady Waters. [25:32] I heard… [25:33] You guys know who we're talking about when we mentioned Lady Waters. [25:35] Jessie. [25:36] Jessie Waters. [25:37] You know, it's interesting. [25:38] A dickhead. [25:39] He is. [25:40] He is. [25:41] He is a dickhead. [25:42] Thank you, sir. [25:43] I think they are so horny over at Fox because they're constantly talking about how hot Hassan [25:49] Piker is or… [25:51] They put him up in his underwear at that Trumpapalooza. [25:54] They put Hassan up in his panties. [25:55] You guys saw that? [25:56] Yeah. [25:57] They hate Hassan Piker, but man, they'd sure love to jerk off to him, it seems. [26:00] Sorry. [26:03] No, it's… [26:04] And then I think… [26:05] I'm just going to say it. [26:07] I think Laura Ingraham is a big old lesbian. [26:09] I do. [26:11] She's never been married. [26:13] She's never been married. [26:15] She has these kids. [26:17] I'm calling Scissor City on the entire thing. [26:21] Allegedly. [26:22] We have to say allegedly. [26:24] Allegedly. [26:25] We say allegedly. [26:26] Yeah. [26:27] I just… [26:28] I think that Fox News, I don't think… [26:30] You know what happened when that lawsuit went down? [26:33] Yeah. [26:34] They don't like any of these Republicans. [26:35] They report on. [26:36] They look behind their back. [26:37] They hated Trump, apparently. [26:38] Yeah. [26:39] Here's what amazes me, is that 77 million people, probably not all of those people [26:44] watch Fox, but I would say they like Fox. [26:47] To knowingly watch a news channel that had to pay a billion dollars for lying, and after [26:53] that billion dollar payout, you think, I want to be lied to today. [26:59] That's just a level of not wanting to know the truth and live in some really weird bubble [27:04] that I cannot relate to. [27:06] And I always tell my listeners this, which are you, obviously. [27:10] Every single thing that MAGA hates, I love. [27:15] I love diversity. [27:16] I love lesbians. [27:18] I love gay people. [27:19] I love drag queens. [27:20] I like… [27:21] I like every… [27:24] I like books. [27:25] I like… [27:26] Especially this one. [27:30] Especially this one. [27:31] Yeah. [27:32] You know, they just… [27:33] The list… [27:34] Oh, their new thing. [27:35] You know their new thing now. [27:37] The liberal white woman. [27:38] Yes. [27:39] What is this about? [27:40] They're just… [27:41] They're just… [27:42] But these grown ass white men are like… [27:45] Liberal white women are going to ruin the United States. [27:47] I'm like… [27:48] Shut up, you pussy. [27:49] I mean, my God. [27:50] They love to talk about you. [27:52] They do. [27:53] They do. [27:54] Yeah. [27:55] And I mean, they hold you up as exhibit A of… [27:58] Trump derangement syndrome. [27:59] Trump derangement syndrome. [28:01] I hear that one too. [28:02] Yeah. [28:03] I like the idea that we have Trump derangement syndrome a little bit. [28:07] Yeah. [28:08] I do too. [28:09] It means I have a functioning brain. [28:10] Yeah. [28:11] Exactly. [28:12] You know, I should be a little deranged with all the shit that he's done, right? [28:14] I know. [28:15] It's so… [28:16] Did you guys see him recently on his rallies? [28:19] Did you see… [28:20] Oh, God. [28:21] The ones over the weekend. [28:22] Yeah. [28:23] We were talking about like Bayer Aspirin and… [28:24] Yeah. [28:25] And then of course, I'm just going to say it. [28:26] We have a bisexual president. [28:28] And I'm not even going to say allegedly because I'm defining bisexuality. [28:32] He's curious. [28:33] Yeah. [28:34] She's cute. [28:35] He's cute. [28:36] Yeah. [28:37] But when it comes to men, it is just full blown. [28:40] Those good looking guys over there. [28:43] But you know what's interesting? [28:45] It's true. [28:46] I have Miles Taylor on my podcast. [28:48] We love Miles. [28:49] Miles Taylor worked in Trump 1.0. [28:50] Yeah. [28:51] And he worked in the Department of Homeland Security. [28:54] And I asked him about this. [28:56] And he said that when they would have to take the president to places where there was [29:02] like some sort of like, you know, officers or police or whatever, they knew when the president [29:09] was coming, they would say, make sure we put the good looking guys up front. [29:13] And this is Trump 1.0. [29:15] And Miles was like, that's just some weird shit. [29:18] You know, that's such a weird request. [29:20] But Trump requests to have the hot guys visible. [29:24] It's kind of gay. [29:26] I do it. [29:28] But it may be more than kind of. [29:30] I mean, I will tell you during the first term when I covered him over at the White House, [29:33] he would kind of look in the in the press area and he would see me. [29:36] Sometimes you make eye contact and be like, I'm like, no, that's please, dear God. [29:45] No, this is not going any farther than this. [29:49] But you're so right. [29:50] He does these rallies where he's like, have you seen the New York Giants quarterback? [29:55] He's really big and strong. [29:57] Good looking guy. [29:58] Good looking. [29:59] Yeah. [30:00] He does that whole thing. [30:01] And I'm like, why is he so horny for this quarterback? [30:03] And he talks more about how hot he thinks men are. [30:06] And then if it's a woman, he's like, I can't say this. [30:10] Because if you're in politics, you can't say women are beautiful, but you're beautiful. [30:14] And he's like, but look at this hot guy. [30:16] I know, he does it all the time. [30:17] And it's just, it's a really, I think that I feel like aside from calling them what they are, [30:22] which are fascists and Nazis and all of the things that they are, [30:26] I do think that we have to kind of punch down at them because they understand that. [30:31] They do. [30:32] They don't understand us going high. [30:34] I remember when the Biden administration was working with Trump over the transfer of power. [30:41] And the people in the Trump, their incoming Trumpers were like, yeah, [30:47] they're like being so polite and they're working with us losers. [30:51] That's how they approach everything. [30:53] So I think that we have to point out that these men that claim to be these big macho men, [30:58] like Pete Hegg said, why are you constantly talking about testosterone in men's penises, Pete? [31:06] I want to know. [31:07] I don't know. [31:08] I just think it's an interesting thing. [31:10] If you're such a macho guy, just see how he did a report. [31:13] He wants to know if people wake up with a morning wood. [31:15] I missed that one. [31:16] Did he? [31:17] No, morning erections. [31:18] He wants to know what the troops are waking up with morning erections. [31:21] He's injecting them with testosterone. [31:23] That's just some really weird shit. [31:25] He's a weird guy. [31:26] There's no question about it. [31:27] And they do these videos where they're working out, you know, [31:30] and he could barely do a chin up. [31:31] Have you seen that? [31:32] He's like, eat one, you know? [31:35] Yeah, yeah. [31:36] And I'm like, dude, maybe don't do the chin up. [31:38] If you can't do the chin, don't do it in front of the cameras. [31:40] Yeah, yeah. [31:41] It's like RFK Jr. and Kid Rock, you know, working out in their blue jeans. [31:45] Yeah, I don't need, these are things I don't need to see. [31:47] Oh my gosh. [31:48] And then RFK Jr. [31:50] This is just a fascinating. [31:52] Donald Trump can sleep. [31:54] It's amazing. [31:55] With Donald, with RFK Jr. [31:57] right here talking. [31:59] And he's just. [32:00] Oh, I'm surprised. [32:02] He does that. [32:03] Measles. [32:04] And he does the Tylenol. [32:07] I tell people it reminds me of Katherine Hepburn in On Golden Pond. [32:10] Oh my gosh. [32:11] That's what it reminds me of. [32:12] It totally is. [32:13] You old poop. [32:14] That's what it reminds me of. [32:16] Oh my God. [32:17] Norman. [32:18] These guys. [32:19] It's so. [32:20] And then we haven't even spoken about Cash Patel. [32:22] Oh God, Cash Patel. [32:23] He just got engaged. [32:24] He just got. [32:25] No. [32:26] Did you see this? [32:27] No. [32:28] Am I right? [32:29] Am I right about this? [32:30] When did that drop? [32:31] A country music sensation? [32:32] To the country music lady. [32:33] I don't know who she is. [32:34] Oh, I know exactly who she is. [32:36] Oh, she is. [32:37] Okay. [32:38] I'll tell you exactly. [32:40] Is she legit? [32:41] All I know is from one tweet that Cash Patel sent out, which I think singularly is probably [32:46] one of my favorite tweet, favorite tweets ever on that website. [32:50] Yeah. [32:51] And he says, basically like, come after me if you want to, but don't come after Alexis. [32:57] Wow. [32:58] She is a country music sensation and she's done more for this country than most people have [33:05] in 10 lifetimes. [33:06] Wow. [33:07] She's 27. [33:08] The fact that he sent that from his FBI Twitter account, they weren't engaged and he's just [33:19] fucking her at the time. [33:20] And he is writing about his girlfriend who nobody knows, that says she's a country music [33:27] sensation and a super patriot. [33:30] And nobody in his orbit says, dude, you look like a really, like a douche, you know? [33:37] And he's flying around on the taxpayer dime. [33:40] He's in these FBI planes and stuff. [33:42] Otherwise, Alexis, the country music sensation, you know she's not fucking him if she has to [33:46] fly a commercial. [33:47] No, that's true. [33:48] He's not. [33:49] I'm sorry. [33:50] You would have to have some sort of perk like that. [33:52] Yeah. [33:53] She's like, you want to get this plane like Trump gets his plane? [33:55] Yeah. [33:56] She's probably like, you getting a plane too? [33:58] Let's just say this. [33:59] If Cash worked at Long John Silver's, he's not going to be engaged to the country music sensation. [34:05] He's not getting Alexis. [34:06] He's not pulling that. [34:07] No, no. [34:08] That's probably a good observation. [34:09] Yeah. [34:10] But, you know, I wonder where this is all heading. [34:14] And I think some of the, we're going to get to audience questions in just a moment here. [34:17] So we'll hear from some of you guys and what you've been thinking. [34:20] But people want to know if there's any hope. [34:23] You know, we got the midterms coming up in four weeks and then it's going to be right off to the races for the [34:29] 2028 presidential race. [34:32] What do you see, I mean, on the horizon from the Democrats? [34:35] Can they do this? [34:37] Maybe you should run, Jen. [34:38] I don't know. [34:39] No. [34:40] Can you get out there and do it? [34:41] Maybe you should do it. [34:42] No. [34:43] You know. [34:44] We'll get you a private plane. [34:45] I would rather earn my money on my back. [34:48] If I'm going to be a prostitute, I just want to be a good. [34:50] Oh my. [34:51] It's a more honest profession. [34:52] And they're all prostitutes, you know, but I would rather just be the sex worker kind. [35:00] I think I'm better with the microphone. [35:03] But I do think we are going to get Democrats elected. [35:08] And I think we have some really great candidates out there. [35:13] I love, obviously, Abdul El-Sayed. [35:16] Angie Nixon from Florida, obsessed. [35:18] Yeah, you had her on. [35:20] Obsessed. [35:21] You've got to have her on. [35:22] She's incredible. [35:23] I'm worried to death that they are going to send ICE and military and police to the polls, [35:33] particularly in black neighborhoods and immigrant neighborhoods. [35:37] And is that Trump bulldozing? [35:39] That could be. [35:40] Yeah. [35:41] They're knocking the East Wing down of the Lincoln Theater. [35:44] He's like, oh, Welch and Acosta in there, bulldoze that bitch. [35:47] Y'all are just collateral damage. [35:50] He's got ICE, the National Guard, the whole thing. [35:52] Yeah. [35:53] But I do think that I'm worried about certain states, like Texas, because Tallarico is probably [36:00] going to win. [36:01] But how do we know that Governor—yeah. [36:03] How do we know that Governor Hot Wheels is going to not grab some ballots and trash [36:09] them? [36:10] Because I just—these people are crooks. [36:12] They are cheaters. [36:13] They are liars. [36:14] All they can talk about is, oh, there's like two trans athletes. [36:17] And so we're going to be laser focused on that issue forever. [36:21] And then corporate media takes the bait on all of that. [36:24] Or Hasan Piker said this ten years ago on a stream, and then they all start laser focusing [36:28] on that. [36:29] And it's—I feel like outside of the corporate world—you feel this, and I know y'all do—that [36:35] there is this massive resentment and this massive resistance that we all feel. [36:43] And we've been building up to this vote that we have a month from now. [36:47] And I just feel with everything in me that it is going to be such a massive turnout. [36:53] But I'm gravely concerned about these incompetent, scared little men that run the country. [37:03] But I think if it's too big to rig—and I look to inspiration like what just happened [37:08] in Hungary, how Viktor Orban, he rigged it every way he could, but Maigar came in and [37:14] they won, and he's gone, and all the oligarchs are starting to leave Hungary as well. [37:19] And— [37:20] That was amazing. [37:21] Yeah. [37:22] That was amazing. [37:23] And I think that—I think that we can do something like that. [37:26] So, I mean, here you know it's blue, but the one thing I have to—I think is so important. [37:33] I write about this in the book. [37:34] Are there any red dot—blue dots from red states in here? [37:40] We have a lot of them in D.C. because they get fed up and then they move here. [37:43] Blue dots and red states are the toughest progressives in the country. [37:49] And we are so looked over. [37:53] We never get any great candidates that come and campaign in our state. [37:57] You never get—you just have these Republican super majorities and it's a race to the bottom. [38:02] And you all know that very well. [38:04] And so, I don't know, I feel like we're going to see even some states— [38:08] I do too. [38:09] —that like at Kansas or some places we're going to see like—do you remember after 24 how devastating it was where they were like, this county turned more red and Trump gained grounds here? [38:21] And you're just like—it's like, you know he won. [38:23] And they're talking about how much redder the country got. [38:25] And you're just like, fuck my life, fuck my life, fuck my life. [38:28] I feel like we're going to take all of that red back and I feel like it's going to be—we're going to gain so much more blue. [38:34] But one thing I want everybody to remember is like, these Republicans are so diabolical, they never stop fighting marketing. [38:43] So after we win, I'm just going to get lemon and salt, just put it on their wounds. [38:48] But then we just have to keep trucking along and reminding everybody we can never let these people back in. [38:54] Ever. [38:56] Yeah. [38:57] No, and I've been telling people on my show, and I'll say it here, you've got to make a plan to vote. [39:01] I mean, in Washington, D.C., your vote is probably going to be fine. [39:04] But if you live in other parts of the country, and maybe we can all call our relatives and friends and emphasize and hammer this point home, [39:12] make it your job to vote. Make a plan to vote. [39:16] If you live in a place where, you know, it may be sketchy in terms of mail-in ballots or early voting or they're closing polling locations, [39:23] like they're doing in Texas, you've got to have a plan. [39:26] Like, you've got to make sure if you're going to get out there on Election Day, get out there right at the crack of dawn. [39:31] Because, I mean, I do think, I agree with you, that he's not going to go quietly. [39:36] He's not going to just say, oh, you win. You know, I think that that's, you know, not going to happen. [39:41] I agree. [39:42] Yeah. [39:43] No, we have to, it's got to be too big to rig, especially Texas. [39:47] Seeing Texas, that big place, that's where I was born. [39:50] Seeing that light up blue, ugh. [39:51] That's wild. [39:52] That would be wild. [39:53] It would be great. [39:54] All right, so we're at the portion of the evening, folks. [39:56] We're going to get to some of your questions. [39:58] And I have them right here. [40:00] And that means I need to find my glasses again, so forgive me. [40:04] And you guys wrote some very thoughtful questions, such as, where's the one? [40:11] There was one that I really love here. [40:13] No, there was one that was, like, spicy. [40:18] Hang on, hang on. [40:20] Not that one. [40:25] Yeah, this is the one we need to do. [40:28] Okay. [40:29] What do we do when Mike Johnson fails to seat the House members from the blue wave? [40:35] This is from Robbie. [40:36] I totally agree with you on this. [40:38] I think... [40:39] Grinder. [40:41] Yeah. [40:42] Moses Mike Grinder Johnson. [40:43] I was going to say, here we go. [40:45] Mike Johnson, one of your favorites to talk about. [40:47] Little Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, who talks to God every day, hears his voice in his ear. [40:55] This is really an issue, because most of these MAGA men are... [41:01] All of their testicles are in the top drawer of the Resolute desk. [41:07] And all of these billionaires' testicles are stacked up in there. [41:10] So that's the thing. [41:11] I'm like, you get this position, you're Speaker of the House, you have all this power. [41:15] And you're like, oh, here's my balls. [41:17] I just... [41:18] I don't understand that. [41:19] Weakest speaker ever. [41:20] Ever. [41:21] The lamest speaker ever. [41:22] The most impotent. [41:23] Yeah. [41:24] The gayest. [41:25] I don't want to say that. [41:26] I'm sorry. [41:27] Allegedly. [41:28] Allegedly. [41:29] Very flaccid, for sure. [41:30] Oh, yes. [41:31] What was the name, Grijalda, the congresswoman that he took a long time to... [41:38] Oh, yeah. [41:39] Grijalva. [41:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [41:41] Yep. [41:42] Adelita Grijalva. [41:43] Yes. [41:44] She won her race. [41:45] Yes. [41:46] And they refused to seat her, give her her seat for like, what, a month or something like [41:48] that? [41:49] It was insane. [41:50] And it was because they were worried she was going to be the Epstein. [41:52] That's exactly what it was. [41:53] Decisive vote on Epstein. [41:54] Yeah. [41:55] And this is exactly what we should be worried about, I think. [41:57] Oh, because he will... [41:59] This guy's such a nut that I can totally see him going, well, you know, I was talking to [42:04] the Lord and the Lord said, you know, that maybe we need to count the votes again. [42:08] And, you know, I've got to go monitor my son's porn and, you know, I would just... [42:12] It's just a weird... [42:13] Can you imagine that this is the Speaker of the House and he and his son monitor each other's [42:18] porn? [42:19] I mean, it's just such weird shit. [42:20] Yeah. [42:22] I won't mention who died today. [42:24] Well, Dennis Hastert died today. [42:25] So, remember that guy... [42:26] Yes. [42:27] Yes. [42:28] Another Republican pedophile. [42:29] That guy's a sicko. [42:30] Yeah. [42:31] Yeah. [42:32] And it was... [42:33] You know, I saw some of the headlines say it was like, a speaker who fell from grace [42:36] or something like that. [42:37] He didn't fall from grace. [42:38] Get the hell out of here. [42:41] Okay. [42:42] This is up your alley. [42:43] What do politicians in red states push for to create stronger bases? [42:47] I think that's a good question. [42:48] Okay. [42:49] So, I write about this in the book. [42:52] Those of you that are from red states can agree with this. [42:55] So, the Democratic Party abandoned a 50-state strategy. [42:58] And so, if you live in a place like Oklahoma, no Democrats ever come and talk to you. [43:03] And there's no discourse in the political landscape where Democrats are even an option to kind of even win. [43:10] So, what you have are Republican candidates and Republican primaries that out crazy each other. [43:16] And recently, there was a primary in the state of Oklahoma for governor. [43:21] And there's this guy running for governor. [43:23] And y'all can Google this when you leave here. [43:25] Google it. [43:26] Here's what you put in the YouTube. [43:28] Put Oklahoma governor candidate commercial chop banana. [43:37] So, he starts off and he has a cutting board and he has a banana on the cutting board. [43:41] And he said, I'm here to make sure the woke Democrats don't take over the schools. [43:48] And he gets a knife and he cuts the banana as though in Oklahoma, people are sending their kids to school and getting their wieners whacked off. [43:58] That's what he's saying. [44:00] That is one of the crazier things that people talk about. [44:04] In Oklahoma, I mean, you have to, my kids just graduated from my school. [44:09] I had to fill like 95 forms to get them a fucking Tylenol. [44:12] So, obviously nobody's doing this. [44:14] But in Oklahoma, they talk about the trans issue and Sharia law. [44:20] I can tell you if you're trans in Oklahoma, you are very much trying to be invisible because the Christian nationalism, you're just very much trying to not get noticed whatsoever. [44:32] And if you're Muslim, you're also probably going to downplay that because these white Christian nationalists are so bad. [44:39] So, to answer your question, I think you have to start, Bernie Sanders did a lot of work for this country and he never won. [44:47] But without Bernie, there wouldn't be a Zoran. [44:50] Without Bernie, there wouldn't be these new candidates coming up. [44:53] AOC. [44:54] AOC. [44:55] AOC. [44:56] And so, I think a lot of candidates are going to probably run in these states and they might not win, but at least get the conversation away from chopping bananas and talking about imaginary Sharia law. [45:08] I'm like, you guys are so deluded. [45:11] I mean, you cannot drive one yard in Oklahoma without seeing a megachurch. [45:16] They're everywhere. [45:17] And so, I just think you have to have candidates in, and it'll be interesting to see how Tallarico is. [45:24] I hope he wins and I like him. [45:26] He's a little too religious for my personal taste. [45:29] I wish people would go to the red states and go, these Republicans have fucking lied to you and they used your faith to do it. [45:36] I wish, and they would just start saying it over and over. [45:38] Maybe it wouldn't work. [45:39] I don't know. [45:40] But I would, these people are being so disserviced in rural Oklahoma. [45:45] They only go to school four days a week because they've cut education so much. [45:50] Monday through Thursday. [45:51] Well, we can go do an event in Oklahoma City. [45:53] You can go do that. [45:54] Well, we might need some more security. [45:56] We've got some security here tonight. [45:58] We might need our own National Guard. [46:00] Yeah, yeah. [46:01] All right. [46:02] Now, I can't be held responsible for what the audience asked. [46:05] Okay, okay, okay. [46:06] I'm just asking what they are asking. [46:08] Okay. [46:09] Hi, Jen. [46:11] Fellow Blue Dot from a red state. [46:13] Can you comment on who Pete Hegseth's gay lover is? [46:16] Love you! [46:17] Exclamation point. [46:18] I, you know, I just, I have to say, you know, my mother, I love her so much. [46:24] Atheist, progressive, raised me to have, you know, critical thinking. [46:28] And we both have this little side hustle where we love gay Republican scandals. [46:34] I mean, I love them. [46:35] You wrote about Falwell in your book, Falwell Jr. [46:38] Yes. [46:39] With the pool, with the pool boy. [46:40] Falwell Jr., yes. [46:41] Remember the pool boy? [46:42] Yeah. [46:43] Where he went and hired the pool boy to bang his wife while he beat off in the corner. [46:47] And he was the head of? [46:49] Liberty University. [46:50] Head of Liberty University. [46:51] And at Liberty University, you cannot drink alcohol. [46:53] You cannot hold hands. [46:54] That's what I'm saying, you guys. [46:55] These are the perfect evangelical couples. [46:58] It's all bullshit that they're not. [47:00] But okay. [47:01] Pete Hegseth, here's the thing. [47:02] Do we think he's gay? [47:04] Or do we think he's just like so sexually repressed? [47:08] Do you know? [47:09] I think he's repressed. [47:10] Yeah. [47:11] There's some of them for sure that I get like a gaydar ping. [47:15] I just think, I think Pete... [47:17] Okay, here's my... [47:18] How do you get the gaydar ping over the Axe body spray that he bathes in? [47:23] That's the problem, you know? [47:25] Here's the thing that I get from Pete. [47:27] I get that he has performance issues. [47:30] That's why he's laser focused on the testosterone. [47:34] I think we've got a variety of things. [47:36] We've either got a quick shot, you know, a two pump chump situation, or we have a soft serve. [47:45] One of those two situations. [47:47] You have a soft serve or a quick shot. [47:50] And I think that's why he's constantly talking about testosterone, [47:54] because he has to take it. [47:55] He wants cover for his own treatment. [47:57] Yes. [47:58] You know, it's like everybody's got to do it. [47:59] Everybody's got to take testosterone. [48:00] It can't just be me, so we need everybody to do it. [48:03] I think we have issues. [48:04] That's it? [48:05] That's what I think. [48:06] We've cracked the code. [48:07] Mm-hmm. [48:08] And I don't want to think about that anymore. [48:09] Okay. [48:10] Please talk about what has been done to federal workers. [48:14] I think that's a great... [48:16] For this audience here in Washington, D.C. [48:18] I mean, my God, what people have been through here, it has been unbelievable. [48:24] Like, you know, he wants to build a fucking arch over by Arlington National Cemetery and put snipers on it. [48:30] Like, I mean, this is psychotic stuff. [48:33] But I mean, but I think federal workers are probably a big part of your base, Jen. [48:38] Yeah. [48:39] So I... [48:40] Elon Musk. [48:41] Elon Musk. [48:42] And how many kids? [48:43] He's got like 14 kids or something. [48:44] 14 that we know of. [48:45] That we know of, yeah. [48:46] There's been some journalism that says that he's kind of like has some Petri dishes over in Japan, too. [48:51] He's one of these weird guys that... [48:53] Yeah. [48:54] But... [48:55] Yeah. [48:56] Here's what pisses me off about what MAGA has done is so many people that work for the government are just looking for stability. [49:06] Like, they're not looking to be like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg. [49:10] They're looking, I make a decent living. [49:12] I'm able to go on vacation. [49:13] I have a mortgage. [49:14] I have a pension. [49:16] And they're... [49:17] They probably live a more honest, real life than all of these MAGA people combined. [49:23] And for Elon Musk to just go in and arbitrarily cut all of these workers under this bullshit guise of waste, fraud, and abuse, [49:32] which I think we're still spending billions of dollars for paying workers to not work. [49:38] I think that is still going on. [49:40] I think that is still going on. [49:41] Yeah. [49:42] I think I read an article about that. [49:43] But it's... [49:44] I'm worried that all of that talk about the swamp, the swamp, the swamp. [49:49] You had just nonpartisan people that, of course, you know, they were Democrat or Republican, but they weren't, like, going to do nefarious shit at their job for a political party. [49:59] They removed all of those people because they want people that will do nefarious shit at their jobs for Trump. [50:06] That's exactly right. [50:07] Yeah. [50:08] And then you look at agencies like USAID, which was, like, the best publicity that America could ever have around the world. [50:14] Yeah. [50:15] And because... [50:17] And this goes back to Little Marco. [50:19] Little Marco was part of killing USAID and now AIDS exploding again in Africa. [50:26] All kinds of problems happening over in places like Africa. [50:31] And these were problems that we were solving and, by the way, persuading people to like America and be on our side. [50:39] Now the Chinese are going in there. [50:40] The Russians are going in there. [50:41] Soft power. [50:42] Soft power. [50:43] Yeah. [50:44] Yeah, totally. [50:45] I think that Elon Musk's life accomplishment should forever be, and I think if we all say this on the internet as much as possible, the richest man in the world that killed the poorest people in the world. [50:59] Yes. [51:00] That is who he is. [51:02] There's this tweet by this author. [51:04] I think it's, like, Joyce... [51:05] Oh, it's her... [51:06] I can't remember her name. [51:07] But she talks about how Elon Musk has this bank account, right? [51:11] But he's not rich in any other way. [51:14] You never see him post about, like, I love my dog. [51:18] Or I had a great trip. [51:19] Or I went on a wonderful dinner with this person. [51:23] All of the things, like what we're doing right now. [51:26] And I'm going to talk about the show with Jim and Jennifer. [51:28] He never tweets about any of those things that make your life rich. [51:33] It's grievances. [51:34] He doesn't even talk about, like, the weather being nice. [51:37] It's all of this just dark, white... [51:40] His kids never talks about that, unless the one that he hates. [51:44] His trans child that he says is dead. [51:47] And I just think about all the time, and I remind you all, my audience all the time, that we have something that they'll never have. [51:54] Like, if I had a trans child, I love my two sons. [51:58] Like, I don't know how I could get more love for them. [52:01] But if they were trans, I would figure out a way to love them quadruple. [52:05] Because they're going to need extra love because the world is going to be mean to them. [52:09] And Elon Musk, his daughter isn't... [52:14] Because he's a narcissist. [52:15] And narcissists see their children as extensions of themselves. [52:18] And so that's not an extension that he likes. [52:20] And he just sends his kid down the river. [52:22] It's just... [52:23] There's a documentary coming out about him, four hours long. [52:26] I had Ashley St. Clair on, his baby mama. [52:28] She spilled all the beans about it. [52:30] But we should all watch it. [52:31] But I just... [52:32] I think it's important as we feel so, like... [52:35] These guys are bullies and they're just abusive. [52:38] They're abusing all of us all the time. [52:39] We all have so much more than they will ever fucking have. [52:43] Truly. [52:44] Absolutely. [52:45] That's right. [52:46] That's right. [52:47] I agree with you 100%. [52:48] And they hate the country that we're becoming. [52:52] That's my theory on it, too. [52:53] They hate that we're becoming more multicultural. [52:56] Yeah. [52:57] More tolerant. [52:58] More loving. [52:59] More kind. [53:00] They profit when we're less tolerant. [53:03] When we're less multicultural. [53:05] When we're tearing each other apart. [53:06] That's where they thrive. [53:07] Yeah. [53:08] And I think we have to deny them this America that they're trying to build. [53:12] This very dark place that they're trying to build. [53:14] And it's going to take a lot of work. [53:15] But, I mean, just to wrap up with a little bit of optimism. [53:18] What gives you optimism? [53:19] What gives you hope? [53:20] Are you going into these last four weeks? [53:22] Tomorrow's four weeks until November 3rd. [53:24] Is it? [53:25] Oh, my God. [53:26] That's it. [53:27] Yeah. [53:28] 28 days. [53:29] Where do you find hope? [53:30] I mean, I find hope, a lot of hope in my audience. [53:34] You know, if I look at the comments, I'm sure you do, too. [53:37] Yep. [53:38] Just that people are engaged and that people have weaned off of corporate media and people are... [53:45] I'm glad to be in a political movement that isn't a cult. [53:49] That we can be like, boo, Chuck Schumer. [53:53] Boo, Donald Trump. [53:55] You know, that we're not just... [53:57] When you get to MAGA, they just can't critique anything. [54:00] But I find hope that I have to believe that the majority of us, and I think even in 2024, [54:11] even though he won more votes, I've always felt like the majority of us definitely are [54:16] more tolerant, more accepting, and embrace multiculturalism. [54:20] And I do think that's at the epicenter of it. [54:22] But I still, I say this with a lot of hesitation because of the PTSD that I have from 2024. [54:30] I hear you, yeah. [54:31] You know, but I just, we deserve to see that map blue. [54:36] We need that. [54:37] We need it. [54:38] Like, we need to have a night where we're celebrating, or we need a major medical emergency. [54:44] I'm not going to say who that needs to be from, but we just, we need something here. [54:48] We need the climax to happen. [54:50] And it would be kind of, yeah, a real climax, not a Pete Hexeth kind of climax. [54:56] Stay strong, stay firm, right? [54:58] Is that, that's what we need to tell everybody. [55:01] Stay strong. [55:03] Stay strong. [55:04] I was- [55:05] Stand at attention. [55:06] Don't back down. [55:10] That's so good. [55:11] Something like that? [55:16] Yeah, something like that. [55:17] All right, guys. [55:18] Can we give Jen a round of applause, please? [55:21] Thank you. [55:22] Great questions, by the way. [55:24] The book, Not Today Fascists. [55:26] Not Today. [55:27] Did you guys get it? [55:28] Not today. [55:29] Guys, so, so much for coming out. [55:32] Thank you. [55:33] Thank you. [55:34] Thanks to Jamma Staff. [55:36] Hey, guys. [55:37] Thanks.