Atty. Israelito Torreon discusses VP Sara's impeachment & Senator Bato Dela Rosa's case — The Spokes

[0:10] Good morning. I'm Attorney Barry Gutierrez, the spokesperson of former Vice President Lenny Robredo. [0:14] And this is The Spokes. [0:21] From the palace halls and the OVP then to our group chats now, [0:25] we'll give you perspectives from an insider's position standing behind the podium. [0:31] The Spokes is back. [0:32] He is one of the most vocal and recognizable legal defenders of the Dutertes and their allies, [0:37] the lawyer of embattled Senator Bato de la Rosa, [0:41] Attorney Israelito Torreon. [0:43] Welcome back to The Spokes, Attorney Bobet. [0:45] Hi, magandang umaga, Sir Barry. [0:47] Magandang umaga po sa lahat ng mga nanonood nitong sikat masyado na program. [0:53] Good morning. [0:54] Salamat naman po. [0:54] Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. [0:57] Salamat po sa pagpunta niyo ngayong umaga. [0:59] Alam po, maulan, medyo umahirap. [1:01] Umabot kayo. [1:02] Opo, opo, ooo. [1:03] Medyo traffic pa. [1:04] Pero okay, nandito pa rin. [1:06] Sabihan muna po natin, kumusta po ang inyong office ni Attorney Jimmy Bondok? [1:11] Nakasama din namin dito sa bilyon na kayo. [1:13] Um, by the grace of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, medyo okay naman yung pag-take-off namin. [1:19] At yung happiness lang namin, nakakasweldo naman po kasi sa aming mga empleyado. [1:24] Yun na importante, yun na importante. [1:25] O kayo, nakakasweldo. [1:27] At mayroon din pambili ng tuyo at saka bigas. [1:31] Happy na kami dun. [1:32] Mas nagdagdaman siguro ng konti. [1:33] Dagdagdaman ng konti naman. [1:35] Opo, opo. [1:36] Makakabili ng make-up para sa aming magagandang misis. [1:39] Pero tingin ko, curious ang madaming tao. [1:41] Kasi ang, siyempre, kilala ng madaming tao, yung mga medyo high-profile cases na hinahandle nyo. [1:46] Pero ano pa yung ibang practice areas na inyong inaasikaso? [1:50] Well, in Davao and to some degree also here in Manila, litigation lawyer talaga ako. [1:58] Litigation lawyer. [1:59] So, criminal cases, civil cases, may mga Maguindanao massacre, I also handled it. [2:06] Yung mga, more or less, yung MWA-AD na kaso, anong ibigay sana dun yung porsyo ng Mindanao. [2:15] So, sa amin ngayon, dito sa Manila, traditional na mga kaso po. [2:23] Criminal cases. [2:24] Meron din kami estafa. [2:26] Meron din kami what to call this. [2:28] Mamayang hapon, magka-cross-examination. [2:30] O, sabi ka doon. Meron kayong kaso. [2:32] Meron kayong kaso. [2:33] Kasi tutulungan ko si General Pokis dun sa kaso niya na na-file against him, [2:38] noong inciting to sedition. [2:40] Okay. [2:41] So, supposedly, may presentation of a witness this afternoon. [2:47] So, I was also studying a bit the criminal information as well as the accompanying affidavit complaints that are in the carpeta of the case. [2:59] So that I can also properly and intelligently cross-examine the witness. [3:03] But ito, isa sa mga pinaka-high profile at sikat niyong kliyente, si Sen. Bato de la Rosa. [3:11] So, didirection ko na kayo, authority Bopet, mula kagabi, kumakala sa social media, [3:16] kung ano-ano'ng chismis na siya daw ay nahuli na, papalipad na daw as we speak on the way to the Hague. [3:22] Totoo ba ito? May katotohanan ba dito? [3:24] Well, I hope and pray na hindi totoo. [3:26] I can only say that simply because of the fact that my client did not call me. [3:32] Siguro kung nangyari yun, na nadakip talaga siya, hahanap ng paraan yan na magtawag. [3:39] Makatawag, siyempre. [3:40] Siyempre, oo. [3:41] So that we can also avail of proper legal remedies para naman maprotektahan siya. [3:48] So, at saka yung mga law enforcement personnel, sigurado ako, they will also call me to inform me [3:57] kasi the accused, if we can properly characterize him as an accused, sa akin kasi hindi, wala naman siya. [4:04] Pending na petition na yun naman na. [4:06] Yes, is entitled under Republic Act 7483 na entitled to counsel at any stage of the proceedings, [4:14] even during arrest, prior to arrest, and while his case is processed by the appropriate court. [4:23] So, wala po kayong nakuhang tawag since kagabi? [4:26] So, kailangan kayo huling nagkausap yung senator ba ito? [4:28] Yung May 11 ba, yun yung mga two hours before he left the Senate Halls. [4:37] Nalaman ko, wala na pala talaga siya. [4:40] Mga lunchtime na na-confirm ko, wala na pala talaga siya. [4:45] Or yung nag-declare na si former Senate President, or still former Senate President Kayitano, wala na siya doon. [4:54] So, ito po, almost three months ago? [4:56] Yes, yes. Wala na talaga kaming communication. [4:59] I communicate through his staff, through members of his family. [5:05] So, kung nadakip siya, I'm very sure, may mga maawa naman siguro sa atin yung mga law enforcement personnel. [5:11] At tatawagan ako, wala namang tawag po. [5:13] At tingin ko kasi po, nagsimulaan ito, yung post ng kanyang partner, si Atty. Jimmy Bondok, na mayroon daw bad news na padating. [5:20] Hindi, before that, mayroon na. Marami na masyado na mga... [5:24] So, yung kayo, Atty. Jimmy, may idea ba kayo kung ano yung kanyang tinutukoy dito? [5:26] Walang nagpausap kami, iba yung ginamin niya. [5:29] Kaya, tinake-out niya na yung nagka-timing. [5:33] So, tinake-out na niya yung kanyang post. [5:37] Kasi nga, it gave multifarious interpretations. [5:42] Kasi yun ang tinuturo ng madami on social media. [5:45] And then, in fairness to Jimmy, marami ng mga post even before that. [5:49] May mga text messages na akong natatanggap. [5:54] May tumawag pa na confirmed na nadakip siya. [5:58] Kung nadakip yun, tatawag yun ka agad sa akin. [6:01] Pero wala eh. So, relaxed lang ako. [6:04] This is not the first time I'm handling cases like this. [6:07] So, minsan kasi, minsan ha, I'm not saying na sinadya ito. [6:14] Scenarios like that are played out so that you would contact right away your client. [6:18] At saka mag-ping, eh di, wala na. [6:21] Yung mga ganun. Eh di, nalulocate na siya ng kaputsa. [6:25] So, hindi natin gagawin yun. [6:28] That happened also sa KOJC Siege. [6:30] Yung mga ganun na, oh, nadakip na siya. [6:33] Anong nadakip? Wala naman. Wala nga akong contact eh. [6:36] Ah, they would assume kasi na yung lawyers may alam. [6:40] Hindi nila alam na it is our policy not to know. [6:45] Kasi it's better for you not to know. [6:47] Kasi, like, guys, if you're interviewed like highly intelligent guys like attorney Barry, [6:53] eh baka masabi mo yung totoo, patay ka. [6:56] O, di ba? So, yun talaga ang policy ko. [6:59] Do not inform me. Do not inform me so that I can perform my job properly. [7:04] Plausible deniability. [7:05] Yun, yun. Wala akong alam. [7:08] Kasi, dapat din, ah, ikaw, you have to protect yourself as a lawyer. [7:11] Tama, siyempre. [7:12] O, so, as a lawyer, ayoko rin madisbar, busing. [7:16] Ah, mga anak ko, buntis pa si misis ko, yun, yun din. [7:19] Protectahan din natin. [7:20] Pero, are you at liberty to say kung ano yung, ano yung tinutukoy ni Atty. Jimmy, [7:26] kung hindi pala yung kahapon? [7:27] Kasi, tingin ko rin, iba na, ano, iba na senaryo yun. [7:31] Pero, it's for him to, ano, kasi, ang sabi lang kami, eh, partner kami. [7:36] Eh, iba yung sinabi, iba yung minin ko, yung unga, pero iba ata ang hindi. [7:40] Ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito. [7:41] So, pero in fairness, I mean, prior to that, ang dami na. [7:45] Ang dami na, ah, what's to call this, dami na tumawag sa akin. [7:49] Oo. So, yun. [7:51] Yun po. [7:51] So, to be clear po, as of now, wala po kayong any confirmation na totoo itong nangyarin to. [7:56] I think it's not true. [7:58] I am praying to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala that it is not true. [8:01] Because it will really complicate things if it is true. [8:03] Because if it is true, then our remedies would no longer be here. [8:07] Although, of course, we can still technically argue that there are Supreme Court decisions [8:11] which states that the court retains residual jurisdiction, et cetera, [8:17] or it can still act on the matter. [8:19] Pero mahirap na kasi kung nandun na siya, eh. [8:21] How can we implement it? [8:22] Enforcement would be the problem of whatever orders that may be issued by the Supreme Court. [8:27] In the final analysis, it would be diplomacy. [8:30] It would be, you know, mga pakiusap na lang ang mangyayari sa amin. [8:35] Unlike kung nandito pa siya, [8:36] well, enforceable pa yung orders ng Supreme Court or other courts for that matter. [8:43] On that point po, Atty. Bobbitt, [8:44] meron po kayong finile doon po sa pagkaka-aresto kay dating Pangulong Duterte. [8:48] Yes, yes, yes. [8:49] Ano po ang status ng kasong yun? [8:50] It's pending. [8:52] It's pending now. [8:52] So, hindi pa siya dismissed? [8:53] Hindi siya dismissed. [8:55] What was acted upon was our prayer for TRO when the other respond. [8:59] Dalawa yung klienti namin doon, eh. [9:01] Si PRRD, si Tatay Digong, at saka si Senator Batu. [9:04] Actually, ang petition na yun was designed for Senator Batu sana. [9:08] Kasi yung umuugong nun, si Senator Batu talaga. [9:10] Okay, oo, oo. Pero nandun sa Hong Kong na ako, well, I was requested to include PRRD at the last minute. [9:17] So, nung dumating ako dito, I had to, eh, yung opisina ko nun sa Dabao pa, eh. [9:22] I had to tweak the petition, change page one and page two as well as the last minute. [9:27] Baka nakaka-relate po ako sa mga ganyang. [9:29] Ay, ay, ay, ay, ang dami mong dadalit nun. [9:31] Tapos, ikakarga mo pa sa, what you call this, sa aeroplano. [9:35] Magpapirma ka pa ng verification. [9:36] Noon, nahirapan ako. [9:38] Kasi hindi kami pinapasok dun sa airport. [9:40] Hindi kami pinapasok dun sa, ano, wala ka ng time to change the petition. [9:45] Have it, what you call this, photocopied. [9:47] 18 copies at that. [9:48] Ay, ang kapal-kapal. [9:49] Hindi naman po pwede na sasabihan mo yung Korte Supremo. [9:52] One and two pages, three pages. [9:53] Eh, si Dintor yun daw po, baka i-dismiss, nakakaya. [9:57] So, kailangan maganda at saka meaty yung petisyon mo. [10:02] Kaya yun ang nangyari. [10:03] So, ngayon, hinihintay po nyo dun, the full ruling? [10:07] Yes, the full ruling of the Supreme Court. [10:10] And I just received an order yesterday also requiring the Solicitor General to file a comment also to, [10:20] which will expire on August 10, which is manapit na. [10:23] August 5 na ngayon. [10:24] August 10 is next Monday. [10:26] Yes, yes, yes, yes. [10:28] So, kailangan nila mag-comment on something na kailan nyo. [10:30] Mag-comment, yes, yes, yes. [10:31] Oo. [10:31] Kahapon ko lang nabasin. [10:32] Nag-request mo po kayo ng oral arguments para dito sa kaso nga ito? [10:36] That is actually discretionary on the part of the Supreme Court. [10:40] With all honesty, I don't think they will order that. [10:42] Kasi yung mga, ano naman, issues, wala namang factual eh. [10:46] Wala namang factual issues, wala namang, ano, everything is legal which they can decide right away. [10:52] Oo, yun po. [10:54] Okay. [10:54] So, pero ano pong ini-expect nyo dun? [10:56] I'm hoping that we will win. [10:58] Kasi... [10:58] If you do, ano yung magiging remedy? [11:00] Considering that, well, the former president is already in the custody ng ICC. [11:05] Well, there is still... [11:07] Oh, ito ah. [11:07] Itong makaragay niya. [11:08] Sige, sige, sige, sige. [11:09] The Supreme Court, no, sersurari kasi yan under the expanded concept under Article 8, Paragraph 1, no, which the... [11:17] It can still order the Executive Department to do anything legal in order to enforce the order of the Supreme Court. [11:25] Perhaps, it can require the Executive Department to do all possible, ano, na ma-assert niya na, uy, parang mag-file ng manifestation dun sa ICC na dapat pala, kasi hindi na kami miyembro ng Rome Statute, dapat pala hindi na kami nag-cooperate, so mag-manifest kami na baka pwede ipadali nyo dito sa amin balik. [11:54] O, yung mga ganun na manifest, of course, it's not binding on the ICC kasi naka-acquire na sila ng jurisdiction, eh. [12:01] But we're hoping and praying na with the Trump, you know, pressure now, lahat, baka mag-give in sila. [12:09] Yan lang po. [12:09] Nobody only, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, can predict all things. [12:13] So, in the event po na ganun din na mangyari kay Senator Bato, ganun din yung aasahan nyo? [12:18] Yes, yes. [12:19] So, itong kay Senator Bato, mas marami pa kaming probability dito. [12:24] Kasi nga, nandito pa siya sa Pilipinas. [12:26] I would like to believe na nandito pa siya sa Pilipinas. [12:29] Kasi last discussions namin, nasabihan niya ako, former PNP chief yan, matalino yan. [12:37] Mas mahirap daw kung aalis kasi may mga information merchants, may mga, what to call this, [12:45] yun ang sinabi sa kanya. [12:46] Kung baka, i-disclose kung nasa siya. [12:47] Oo, i-disclose. [12:48] Ang term, information merchants. [12:51] Napaka-polite na term nun. [12:53] Oo nga, oo nga. [12:54] So, mas mahirap yun. [12:56] Tsaka, yung other countries kasi, they also have higher intelligence mechanisms and systems [13:04] by which they can actually track any and all visitors. [13:08] And such are, you know, can never be prevented to be transmitted here in the Philippines. [13:15] So, mas mataas ata ang kadilikado kung aalis ka sa bansa. [13:21] Of course, exception yan. [13:22] Sila, former Senator, si Senator Lakson, nakaalis yan nun eh. [13:25] Oo, di ba? [13:26] Nakaalis siya. [13:28] Bumalik lang siya sa Pilipinas nung wala na siyang waran. [13:30] It's very convenient on his part during that time. [13:34] Pero, so, based on that conversation, as far as you know, and again, I don't want you to put you on the spot. [13:40] Yes, yes. [13:41] Since nag-usap kayo nung May 11. [13:43] May 11, o. [13:44] He's been, si Senator Patong has been in the Philippines. [13:46] Hindi siya umaalis. [13:47] I think so. [13:48] Yan, belief ko lang yan. [13:49] Yes. [13:49] Belief ko lang yan. [13:50] Pero, I cannot state with certainty that he is here. [13:55] He is here. [13:55] Yes, sir. [13:56] So, given na mukhang mayroon ng waran na, of course, na-serve na yung kay former President Duterte, [14:03] at mukhang ito, active waran against si Senator Bato issued by the ICC, [14:08] may mga ibang pangalang, mga napalutang na rin dyan eh. [14:11] Di ba? [14:12] Si former... [14:13] TESDA Secretary General, kaibigan ko rin. [14:17] O, yung may former general. [14:20] Si DOJ, Secretary Aguirre. [14:22] Di ba? [14:23] Si Senator Bongo. [14:24] So, mayroon ba kayong coordination with any of them? [14:28] Have they expressed concerns na baka they have to go through the same thing? [14:34] Wala kaming coordination. [14:36] Nag-meeting kami, na nag-zoom meeting kami. [14:40] Wala eh. [14:41] Oo. [14:41] Hindi, pero just to consult you. [14:42] Kasi obviously, alam na nyo yung process eh. [14:45] You've already handled yung first two. [14:47] Honestly, kasi ako bawal magsinungaling sa amin eh. [14:51] Honestly, I may have talked to two of them, no? [14:55] Several months ago, as to probable remedies. [14:58] I gave my own advice, no? [15:01] I know they also have their own lawyers. [15:04] Pero after that, wala kaming communication na. [15:07] Oo. [15:07] Yung dalawa, nag-ausap kami sa telepono. [15:12] Pero this was four months ago, five months ago. [15:16] Yun po. [15:17] As to coordination, wala. [15:20] Okay. [15:21] Concern, kayo ba personally, do you think na may lalabas pang mga warrants in the next few months? [15:26] Well, the processes of the ICCs are unique talaga, no? [15:31] Totoo naman. [15:32] Kaya nga eh. [15:33] And they don't actually announce publicly before yung actual service. [15:36] Blessing in disguise nga si Senator Trillianis eh. [15:39] Kasi nung winawagayway na niya yung warat, [15:42] eh na-compelled yung ICC to reveal it. [15:46] Di ba? [15:46] Oo. [15:46] So, blessing in disguise sa amin yun. [15:48] Kasi, alam mo, pumunta pa ako sa ICC to find ways sana to confirm whether or not... [15:55] Sa daheg? [15:56] Oh, daheg, four months ago. [15:58] Pero, blessing in disguise, nabuntis ko yung misis ko dahil dun. [16:00] Oo, di ba? [16:01] O, di ba? [16:01] O, di ba? [16:02] So, yung pagwagayway ni Senator Trillianis, no? [16:06] Saved me a lot of money in going to ICC to secure confirmation. [16:11] Kasi may confirmation na ngayon. [16:13] At least, alam na namin ngayon. [16:14] In the past, yung ICC spokesman, we do not have any warrants o bares. [16:20] Dapat ba lahat? [16:20] Diba may tagit niya si Senator Trillianis? [16:22] Oo nga, dapat ito. [16:23] Kung magkita kami ni Senator Trillianis, talaga, sir, [16:25] salamat talaga, sir, ha? [16:27] Kasi na-confirm mo na ang mahal-mahal pa naman ang tiket, [16:30] utang pa kami para makabayad, punta doon. [16:33] So, salamat talaga, sir. [16:35] Eh, treat tayo, sir, dito. [16:36] Eh, hindi naman kailangan mag-away kung nasa kabilang kampo. [16:39] You can always politely and intelligently agree to disagree. [16:43] Ganun lang ako eh. [16:45] Nakita nga kami ni Attorney Ibanez noon. [16:47] Kasama kami niyan noon. [16:48] Kasi kay Frank Chavez, akong ginagamit niyan noon na lawyer doon sa Mindanao. [16:52] Oo, si Attorney Ibanez, o. [16:55] Diba, rabid ano talaga, anti-Duterte yan. [16:58] Nagkita kami kahapon kasi may cross-examination nga ako sa Manila. [17:01] Nagkita kami, oh, ay, kumusta ka na? [17:03] Oh, kaibigan pa rin kami. [17:04] And we always, you know, that should be the spirit of Filipinos. [17:09] Ako, di nag-a-agree ako sa inyo. [17:11] Dapat talaga ganun. [17:11] Dapat na magka-a-agree. [17:12] Kasi may mga punto rin kayo na kailangan din namin i-consider [17:16] so that we can come up with a better policy for the country. [17:21] Sana nga makabalik tayo sa panahon na [17:23] posibleng mag-disagree without being disagreeable. [17:27] Yes. [17:28] O, yun ang pangarap ko sa Pilipinas. [17:30] Kasi may mga bright ideas talaga si Attorney Barry [17:33] na hindi ko rin nakikita. [17:35] Kasi only a fool would believe that he is the mightiest [17:39] and the brightest of them all [17:41] that you could not also pick good ideas from the other camp. [17:45] And that's the beauty of democracy. [17:47] It's the marketplace of ideas. [17:49] And people like us should continually talk [17:51] and continue to find ways as to how we can come up [17:54] with a common stand for the betterment of our country. [17:58] So, yun sana ang ating mga, [18:00] at kumbinsin natin yung ating mga rabid followers [18:03] to act like that. [18:05] Kasi grabe na ang division ng ating country. [18:08] Oo, kailangan maging kaibigan tayo [18:10] para ipakita natin doon sa ating mga followers [18:13] na pwede naman pala magka-agree [18:16] maski nasa opposite camp tayo. [18:18] At saka dapat nag-uusap pa rin. [18:19] Yun, yun, yun, yun. [18:21] Basta usap tayo. [18:23] Okay, on that score, [18:25] bukod sa mga ICC cases, [18:27] you've also filed several cases before the Supreme Court [18:30] tungkol naman sa impeachment. [18:31] Yes, sir. [18:32] Ano po ang status nito? [18:34] Yung una, [18:36] yung first impeachment complaint against kay VP Sara, [18:40] pinagpala tayo ni Alas Subanawatala, [18:41] nanalo kami. [18:43] Dito naman sa itong second impeachment complaint against him, [18:48] which involved the third and fourth impeachment complaint against him. [18:51] Against her, rather. [18:53] The Sabalya as well as the Cabrera complaint. [18:57] Pending pa po. [18:58] Pending pa yun. [18:59] And there are sub-issues which arose, [19:02] the latest of which involved my very good friend, [19:05] former Senate President Cisa Scudero, [19:07] yung kanyang pag-preside sa Senado. [19:09] Ah, yung kanyang designation as presiding officer. [19:11] We honestly believe that there is a justiciable issue there [19:15] that might taint the entire proceedings. [19:18] So we also filed a urgent manifestation with motion. [19:23] And yun, pinarequire na ata ng Supreme Court [19:26] to comment yung Solicitor General dahil dun. [19:30] But of course, any petition filed before the Supreme Court [19:35] relating to impeachment, [19:37] even in the past, [19:39] nagsimula sa Francisco versus House of Representatives [19:41] sa impeachment ni Chief Justice Davide, [19:43] has always come up against the counter-argument [19:46] na the Constitution [19:48] vests the Senate and the House [19:51] exclusive jurisdiction over these cases. [19:53] So, anong inyong perspective [19:55] on why the Supreme Court [19:57] should be able to exercise [19:58] their jurisdiction in these situations? [20:00] Well, expanded concept of judicial review. [20:05] Because even if we say that [20:08] the Senate has the sole power [20:09] under Article 11, Section 3.6 [20:11] of the 1987 Constitution, [20:16] that does not foreclose the fact [20:18] that it only determines that [20:23] the Senate is the court [20:25] which tries impeachment cases. [20:27] But as to whether or not [20:29] it is exercised properly, [20:30] it is exercised consensuously, [20:33] it's still within the expanded jurisdiction [20:38] of the Supreme Court. [20:39] Because indeed, [20:40] any agency or court [20:43] granted power [20:45] may have the tendency [20:46] to overstep its boundaries. [20:48] So, it's in grace of abuse of discretion. [20:49] And the Supreme Court [20:51] would be there [20:52] to allocate the constitutional boundary [20:55] to say, [20:56] up, up, up, up, up. [20:57] Medyo sobra ka na, ha? [20:58] Sobra ka na doon sa kawad. [21:01] Iayos mo. [21:02] Dito ka lang. [21:02] Pupwede. [21:04] Yun ang theory ko [21:05] na bakit nag-file ako [21:07] maski kaibigan kami ni Senator Cheez. [21:09] Wala pong personalan yun. [21:10] Hindi ba dapat personalan yun? [21:11] Talaga lang mga issue-based. [21:12] Kasi when we looked at the, [21:15] you know, [21:16] yung records [21:18] ng Constitutional Commission, [21:20] nandun talaga [21:20] na raise yung issue na yun. [21:23] Sabi nila, [21:24] purely textual grounds, [21:27] hindi naman nakasabay doon. [21:28] Pero ang sabi ko naman doon, [21:30] it is necessarily implied therefrom [21:33] that if the respondent [21:35] is not the president, [21:37] then necessarily [21:38] it is the Senate president [21:40] who should preside. [21:41] Pero paano mangyayari yun, [21:43] Attorney Bobbitt? [21:44] Let's say [21:44] that the Supreme Court [21:45] grants your petition, [21:47] at least on that score, [21:48] yung sa presiding officer. [21:50] Does that render [21:51] yung last, ilan na ba, [21:52] four weeks, five weeks, [21:53] invalid? [21:53] I would like to believe so. [21:54] I would like to believe so. [21:56] So paano it would be trial? [21:57] Anong mangyayari? [21:58] Sa akin lang, [21:59] this is, [22:00] this is treading on new grounds. [22:03] Exactly. [22:03] Yeah, treading on new grounds. [22:05] Well, sa akin is [22:06] any and all proceedings [22:08] presided by the [22:09] questionable presiding officer [22:12] would be invalidated. [22:13] It is as if [22:14] yung parang [22:15] nangyayari ba na [22:16] yung judge pala, [22:18] wala palang authority, [22:19] di ba, [22:19] nagkakaroon ng [22:20] mistrial talaga yun. [22:22] O, yung proceedings na yun. [22:24] So, yun ang [22:25] kinatatakutan ko. [22:27] So, kung magtrial [22:28] naman lang kayo, [22:29] ayusin ninyo. [22:30] Eh, nagpili kayo [22:31] ng Senate President, [22:32] eh, hindi nyo pala [22:33] yung interest na [22:34] ano pala siya dyan? [22:35] Parang [22:36] decoration, [22:37] wag naman ganun. [22:38] Insulto yung [22:38] kay Senator Gatchalian. [22:40] Pinili ninyo yan. [22:40] Then, stand by your decision. [22:42] Ibang ginawa nila eh. [22:44] So, I had to file [22:45] a petition [22:46] in order to correct [22:47] the matter. [22:48] If you have to go to trial, [22:49] we are questioning [22:50] your proceedings. [22:51] Simply because of the fact [22:52] it was not properly [22:53] instituted [22:55] by the Committee on Justice [22:56] which conducted [22:57] a mini-trial, [22:58] which conducted [22:59] proceedings, [23:00] which we believe [23:01] are beyond [23:01] its jurisdiction anymore. [23:03] but granting [23:04] ex-argumenti gracia [23:05] that you do have [23:06] the power [23:06] to initiate trial, [23:08] do it properly. [23:09] Yun ang message ko po. [23:11] So, but, [23:12] alam mo naman, [23:13] hindi naman ako [23:13] Supreme Court Justice. [23:15] We are, you know, [23:16] imploring. [23:17] Hindi pa! [23:18] We are imploring [23:20] the good justices [23:21] na sana naman [23:21] ma-actionan [23:23] and ma-decide [23:25] in our favor. [23:26] Okay. [23:28] Obviously, [23:29] pag pag-inausapan [23:30] ng impeachment, [23:31] sabi nga, [23:31] ang paborito kong [23:32] definition dyan, [23:33] kaya the late [23:34] Senator Miriam Santiago, [23:35] kaya siya'y judicial [23:36] and kaya siya'y political. [23:38] Yes. [23:38] Kaya siya'y political [23:38] aspect talaga. [23:40] So, a lot of people [23:40] over the last few weeks [23:42] have been [23:42] obsessing about [23:44] yung numbers. [23:45] At ang obvious [23:46] na division, [23:47] current majority, [23:48] 13, [23:48] current minority [23:50] na nag-a-attend, [23:51] 8. [23:52] Do you think [23:53] na, [23:53] actually, [23:53] yung 8 [23:54] is enough [23:54] to actually [23:55] under the current [23:57] voting set-up [23:58] is enough [23:58] to acquit [23:59] si VP Sarah Duterte? [24:02] Do you think [24:03] na yung 8 na yun, [24:04] mayro'ng pang bibigay doon [24:05] to actually, [24:06] possibly, [24:07] join the majority [24:08] to form [24:09] a sufficient [24:11] quorum [24:11] for conviction? [24:13] Alam ko may alam ka. [24:16] And you want it [24:17] confirmed by me, [24:18] no? [24:19] May mga ugong-ugong [24:21] na mga ganyan. [24:21] I have to be honest [24:23] with you nga eh. [24:25] May mga ugong, [24:26] but I'm praying [24:26] to Allah subhanahu wa taala [24:27] na hindi mag-give in sana. [24:29] Okay. [24:30] I have to be honest also, [24:33] party din ako [24:34] sa mga usapin na ganyan, [24:36] pero sana [24:37] hindi maging totoo. [24:38] Okay. [24:39] So, [24:39] but I am [24:42] certain [24:43] and I am very [24:45] sure [24:46] na yung 16 [24:47] na requirement [24:48] of all members [24:49] of the Senate [24:50] is a Bible [24:51] from which [24:52] It's absolute. [24:53] It's absolute. [24:54] Kasi framers [24:55] of the 1987 [24:56] Constitution [24:57] made it [24:58] that high [25:00] requirement [25:01] because we are [25:02] talking here [25:03] of high officials [25:04] who can only [25:05] be removed [25:06] via impeachment. [25:07] It's a difficult [25:08] process [25:09] purposefully [25:10] designed [25:11] in order [25:12] for these [25:12] high offices [25:13] elected by [25:14] when it comes [25:14] to VP [25:15] Saradotay, [25:16] 32 million people. [25:17] And if you make [25:18] the process [25:19] very easy [25:19] for her [25:20] to be removed, [25:20] you are actually [25:22] speeding [25:22] at the decision [25:24] of 32 million people. [25:26] So, [25:26] if you could not [25:27] meet the high [25:28] quantum of requirement, [25:29] then manigas ka. [25:32] Kasi [25:32] 32 million yung [25:34] nagbuto sa kanya, [25:37] hindi mo na meet [25:38] yung requirement, [25:39] pasensyahan ka na. [25:40] Ikaw nga, [25:41] si Presidente Marcos, [25:42] nagpile ng impeachment [25:44] process, [25:44] yung committee [25:45] yung justice, [25:45] sabi, [25:46] no sufficient [25:47] form and substance. [25:48] Eh, [25:49] sa tingin namin, [25:50] may mga ultimate [25:50] facts na dun, [25:51] pwede na yun. [25:52] Pero, [25:52] wala daw, [25:53] may nagawa ba kami? [25:55] Ang sa amin is, [25:56] what is good [25:56] for the gander [25:57] should likewise [25:58] be good for the goose. [25:59] Eh, [25:59] hindi po masay. [26:00] Then we accepted it. [26:02] Eh, [26:02] dito, [26:03] kung hindi kayo [26:03] magkakabot ng 16, [26:05] eh, [26:05] di ba ni gas ka? [26:06] Yung ang requirement. [26:07] Huwag mo naman [26:08] ipababa na [26:09] yung ibang mga [26:10] legal experts natin. [26:11] Well, [26:12] we should [26:13] follow the [26:16] U.S. Supreme Court. [26:16] Eh, [26:17] di tumira ka doon [26:18] sa Amerika [26:19] kung gusto mo. [26:20] Eh, [26:21] iba yung sa atin, eh. [26:22] Streak yung requirement, eh. [26:24] Bakit mo [26:25] kumbinsihin yung mga tao [26:26] na pwede yan babae? [26:28] And that's [26:28] intellectual dishonesty. [26:29] Maski kaibigan ko siya, [26:30] pare naman, [26:31] ikaw naman. [26:32] Eh, [26:33] magkaiba yung ating [26:34] political stand. [26:35] Ibahin mo yung [26:36] framers, [26:38] yung intention [26:38] ng 1987. [26:40] Huwag naman ganyan. [26:41] Sobra na yan. [26:42] Pero paano yung [26:43] ito, [26:43] practical consideration, [26:44] attorney Bobet? [26:46] There are at least [26:47] five, I think, [26:48] members of the [26:49] current Senate [26:50] minority [26:51] who can possibly [26:53] face [26:53] cases [26:54] before [26:55] various bodies, [26:56] ombudsman, [26:57] et cetera. [26:58] Kung [26:59] makapahilan sila [27:00] and they're [27:01] charged with, [27:03] let's say, [27:03] non-bailable [27:04] offenses. [27:05] Therefore, [27:05] di sila makaka-attend [27:06] ng Senate. [27:07] Paano yun? [27:07] I mean, [27:09] if it's no longer [27:10] possible to get [27:11] the 16, [27:12] na two-thirds [27:13] of 24, [27:15] paano yung [27:16] magiging process [27:17] if so many [27:19] are taken out? [27:20] Actually, [27:20] it's an indictment [27:21] against the [27:22] present administration. [27:24] It's not [27:25] only an indictment, [27:26] it's a judgment [27:27] already [27:27] that they would [27:28] go to [27:30] the lowest [27:31] extent [27:31] just to [27:33] crucify [27:34] VP Sarah Duterte [27:35] and it proves [27:37] the strength [27:37] of VP Sarah Duterte [27:39] that they should [27:39] now wake up [27:40] and realize [27:41] na posibilidad [27:43] talaga [27:44] na maging [27:44] presidente siya [27:45] sa 2028. [27:46] I would like [27:47] to believe [27:47] that these [27:48] five strong [27:49] men and women [27:50] would face [27:51] the music [27:51] and they will [27:53] act like [27:54] the great [27:55] Senator Marco Leto [27:56] and face [27:56] the case [27:57] and anyway, [27:59] they would be [28:00] acquitted [28:00] and very sure. [28:01] There may be [28:03] information [28:03] that will be [28:04] filed against them [28:05] but if there [28:06] is going to be [28:06] a trial [28:07] and at least [28:08] it would have [28:09] the appearances [28:11] of a fair trial, [28:12] I'm very sure [28:13] that they will [28:13] be acquitted [28:14] and I'm sure [28:14] also that [28:15] these five [28:16] senators [28:16] would face [28:17] the music [28:17] just because [28:19] they are no [28:19] longer there [28:20] in the Senate. [28:21] Kasi in the past [28:22] there were [28:23] resolutions [28:23] allowing [28:24] the imprisoned [28:27] senators [28:27] to participate [28:28] in the Senate [28:29] proceedings. [28:30] It was passed [28:31] during the time [28:32] of Trillanes [28:32] although [28:33] not so [28:33] implemented. [28:34] It was [28:35] likewise [28:35] passed [28:35] during the [28:36] time [28:36] of [28:36] Senator [28:36] Delema [28:37] but later [28:38] on [28:38] it was [28:38] not [28:38] implemented [28:39] but the [28:40] fact is [28:40] there were [28:41] resolutions [28:41] in the past [28:42] allowing that. [28:43] I would like [28:43] to believe [28:44] na sana [28:44] i-allow yan [28:45] but if [28:45] ever [28:45] hindi [28:46] i-allow [28:46] yan [28:47] that would [28:48] not [28:48] reduce [28:49] the fact [28:50] na 16 [28:50] pa rin [28:51] ang requirement. [28:52] So kung 13 [28:53] na lang sila [28:53] manigas sila [28:54] kasi [28:55] kung 13 [28:55] na lang [28:56] kayo [28:56] dyan [28:56] nag-trial [28:57] trial [28:57] eh [28:57] para [28:58] ang tingin [28:58] ng mga [28:58] majority [28:59] ng mga [28:59] taon yan [29:00] eh [29:01] para [29:01] na lang [29:01] yan [29:02] lesser [29:03] pa [29:03] ng [29:04] what you [29:05] call [29:05] this [29:06] ng [29:06] murumuro [29:06] trial. [29:07] So [29:07] initially [29:08] si [29:08] Senator [29:09] Chese [29:09] Scudero [29:10] at the [29:10] start [29:11] of the [29:11] trial [29:11] among [29:12] several [29:13] principles [29:14] he announced [29:15] would be [29:15] governing [29:16] said [29:16] 16 [29:17] yung [29:17] threshold. [29:18] Yes. [29:18] If the [29:19] Senate [29:19] decides [29:20] later [29:20] on [29:21] to [29:21] change [29:21] that [29:22] would [29:22] you [29:22] question [29:22] it [29:23] before [29:23] the [29:23] Supreme [29:23] Certainly [29:24] as long [29:25] as the [29:25] sun [29:25] rises [29:26] in the [29:26] East [29:26] I [29:27] will [29:27] do [29:28] that [29:28] as a [29:29] citizen [29:29] not [29:30] as a [29:30] client [29:30] of [29:31] anyone [29:31] because [29:31] a [29:32] citizen [29:32] is a [29:33] particle [29:33] of [29:33] sovereignty [29:34] it [29:34] has [29:35] the [29:35] right [29:35] to [29:35] question [29:36] any [29:37] and [29:37] all [29:37] acts [29:38] on [29:38] the [29:38] part [29:38] of [29:39] any [29:39] branches [29:39] of [29:39] the [29:40] government [29:40] if [29:41] we [29:41] believe [29:42] it [29:42] is [29:42] unconstitutional [29:43] and since [29:43] I [29:43] have [29:44] that [29:44] right [29:44] I [29:44] will [29:44] do [29:45] that [29:45] okay [29:45] anyway [29:46] ito [29:46] napag-usapan [29:47] na natin [29:47] kanina [29:48] but [29:48] in your [29:48] opinion [29:49] is the [29:49] Marcos [29:50] administration [29:50] pulling [29:51] all stops [29:52] to prevent [29:53] a Sarah [29:53] Duterte [29:53] presidency [29:54] in [29:54] 2028 [29:55] but [29:55] before you [29:56] answer [29:56] this [29:56] question [29:57] the [29:57] spokes [29:58] should [29:58] return [29:58] after [29:58] this [29:59] short [29:59] break [29:59] the [30:11] spokes [30:11] is back [30:11] still [30:12] with [30:12] attorney [30:12] Bobet [30:12] Torreon [30:13] and finally [30:13] my [30:14] partner [30:14] Sekreli [30:15] is here [30:15] good [30:16] morning [30:16] isang [30:17] maulang [30:18] maumaga [30:18] po sa inyong [30:19] lahat [30:19] magandang [30:20] magandang [30:20] umaga [30:21] so [30:22] go straight [30:23] na [30:23] sayang [30:23] yung [30:24] oras [30:24] natin [30:24] attorney [30:25] yung hangin [30:26] question [30:26] kanina [30:27] ni [30:27] attorney [30:27] Barry [30:28] we'll [30:29] acknowledge [30:30] the [30:30] comments [30:30] but [30:31] we'll [30:31] acknowledge [30:32] the [30:32] comments [30:33] first [30:33] before [30:33] we [30:34] go [30:34] back [30:34] to [30:34] that [30:34] so [30:35] from [30:35] our [30:36] live [30:36] viewers [30:37] from [30:38] purples [30:39] and [30:39] roses [30:39] if [30:40] attorney [30:41] Torreon [30:41] cannot [30:41] categorically [30:42] say [30:43] that [30:43] Bato [30:43] has [30:44] not [30:44] been [30:44] arrested [30:45] then [30:45] when [30:46] there [30:46] is [30:46] smoke [30:47] there [30:47] is [30:48] fire [30:48] saan [30:48] nga ba [30:48] nang [30:49] galing [30:49] yun [30:49] in the [30:49] first [30:50] place [30:50] is [30:50] it [30:50] just [30:51] from [30:51] ano [30:52] so [30:53] yan [30:53] po [30:53] yung [30:53] comment [30:54] ng [30:54] viewers [30:55] when [30:55] I [30:55] received [30:56] text [30:56] messages [30:56] yesterday [30:57] parang [30:59] galing [30:59] ata [31:00] sa [31:00] mga [31:01] uniform [31:02] personnel [31:02] yung [31:03] mga [31:04] sa akin [31:05] so [31:05] may [31:07] tawag [31:08] pero [31:10] ang hinihintay [31:11] ko [31:11] na tawag [31:11] yung tawag [31:12] na aking [31:12] kliente [31:13] siyempre [31:14] as a lawyer [31:15] pero [31:16] wala [31:17] man [31:17] tapos [31:17] nag-expect [31:18] ako [31:18] ng tawag [31:19] din [31:19] sa members [31:20] ng [31:20] family [31:20] kasi [31:21] ano [31:22] lang [31:22] tumatawag [31:23] yun [31:23] sila [31:23] kaagad [31:24] sa [31:24] wala [31:24] man [31:25] pinabayaan [31:26] ko [31:26] lang [31:26] muna [31:26] mga [31:26] one or [31:27] two [31:27] hours [31:27] then [31:28] nag-appear [31:29] nga yung [31:29] post [31:30] ni [31:30] parang [31:31] Jimmy [31:31] naging [31:33] Thailand [31:34] din ako [31:34] natawagan [31:35] niya [31:35] ako [31:35] so [31:36] tinawagan [31:37] nga [31:37] niya [31:37] ako [31:37] na [31:38] iba [31:38] yung [31:38] ginamin [31:38] niya [31:39] doon [31:39] but [31:40] anyway [31:41] sa akin [31:42] lang [31:42] doon [31:43] I'm [31:43] just [31:44] happy [31:44] na [31:44] until [31:45] na [31:45] wala [31:45] pang [31:45] confirmation [31:46] okay [31:47] so [31:48] baka nga [31:49] sabi niyo [31:50] kanina [31:50] di ba [31:50] meron tayong [31:52] mga [31:53] strategy [31:53] siguro [31:54] ng ibang [31:55] mga [31:55] gustong [31:56] makahuli [31:56] sa kanya [31:57] maganda [31:57] ka yung [31:57] point [31:57] kanina [31:58] pwede yun [31:59] di ba [31:59] so [32:00] another one [32:02] program [32:02] ito [32:03] galing [32:03] kay [32:03] baldog [32:04] tondok [32:05] we should [32:06] not [32:06] speculate [32:06] let's [32:07] wait [32:07] for [32:07] official [32:07] statements [32:08] from [32:08] concerned [32:08] agencies [32:09] yun [32:10] tama yun [32:11] kaya nga [32:11] ako [32:11] I waited [32:12] I waited [32:13] before I [32:14] reacted [32:14] but I [32:14] also [32:15] have [32:16] to give [32:16] my [32:16] peace [32:17] so [32:17] that [32:18] the [32:18] supporters [32:19] of [32:20] Senator [32:21] Bato [32:21] De La [32:21] Rosa [32:21] would also [32:22] be [32:22] informed [32:23] pero [32:23] nabanggit [32:23] yung [32:23] family [32:25] nakausap [32:25] na ba [32:25] nyo [32:25] at this [32:26] point [32:26] yes [32:26] kasi [32:27] hindi [32:27] sila [32:27] tumatawag [32:28] which [32:28] is [32:28] very [32:29] strange [32:29] so [32:30] tumawag [32:30] ako [32:30] wala rin [32:32] silang [32:33] narinig [32:34] ng mga [32:34] balita [32:35] so [32:35] dun ko [32:35] na [32:35] confirm [32:36] ah [32:36] ano [32:37] lang [32:37] ito [32:38] yun [32:39] nga [32:39] posibleng [32:39] ploy [32:40] lang [32:40] ito [32:40] bait [32:41] na ito [32:42] para [32:42] tatawang [32:43] tapong [32:43] ping [32:44] makikita [32:45] na si [32:45] disciplined [32:47] na kami [32:48] more or less [32:48] sa mga [32:49] ganyan [32:49] buti [32:50] na lang [32:50] sanay [32:50] na siya [32:51] sa mga [32:51] past [32:52] clients [32:52] niya [32:53] Toribari [32:54] okay [32:55] another one [32:55] from [32:56] Marshall P [32:56] if the [32:57] Supreme [32:57] Court [32:58] rules [32:58] against [32:59] petitions [33:00] will [33:00] you [33:00] finally [33:00] accept [33:01] the [33:01] legitimacy [33:02] of [33:02] VP [33:02] Sarah's [33:03] impeachment [33:03] trial [33:03] well [33:04] yung [33:05] re-respetohin [33:07] ko [33:07] yung [33:08] court [33:08] kasi [33:08] I'm a [33:09] lawyer [33:09] I do [33:10] not have [33:10] any [33:10] other [33:10] choice [33:11] except [33:11] to [33:11] respect [33:12] it [33:12] and [33:13] nire-respeto [33:14] talaga [33:14] natin [33:14] yan [33:15] pero [33:15] sa akin [33:16] personally [33:16] entitled [33:17] din ako [33:18] sa aking [33:18] opinion [33:18] pero [33:19] hindi [33:20] ko [33:20] na [33:20] ituturo [33:20] yun [33:21] sa [33:21] aking [33:21] mga [33:21] estudyante [33:22] o [33:22] ituturo [33:23] ko [33:23] yung [33:24] sa [33:24] aking [33:24] yung [33:25] ano [33:25] na [33:25] decision [33:26] ng [33:26] Korte [33:27] Suprema [33:27] Jack [33:27] wala [33:28] naman [33:28] kayong [33:28] choice [33:29] wala [33:29] na [33:30] talaga [33:30] kong [33:30] choice [33:31] nagrule [33:31] na [33:31] Supreme [33:32] Court [33:32] eh [33:32] nagrule [33:32] ng [33:33] Korte [33:33] Suprema [33:33] then I [33:34] have [33:34] to [33:34] abide [33:35] by [33:35] it [33:35] and I [33:35] have [33:35] to [33:36] teach [33:36] my [33:36] students [33:37] accordingly [33:37] from [33:39] Bong [33:39] Sanchez [33:40] isasampad [33:41] din namin [33:41] sa [33:41] SC [33:42] ang [33:42] literally [33:42] the [33:43] two [33:43] thirds [33:43] of [33:43] who [33:43] can [33:44] vote [33:44] Marculeta [33:45] dapat [33:46] takbo [33:47] ka ng [33:47] posisyon [33:47] Atty [33:48] Torion [33:48] because [33:48] you are [33:49] a great [33:49] speaker [33:49] naku [33:50] naman [33:51] mayroon [33:53] ba [33:53] mayroon [33:53] ba [33:54] kayo [33:55] actually [33:55] iba yung [33:57] may [33:57] plano [33:58] kang [33:58] pagtakbo [33:59] or [33:59] may [33:59] kakayahan [34:00] ka ba [34:00] financially [34:01] magtakbo [34:02] totoo [34:03] rin [34:03] yan [34:03] ang [34:05] may [34:05] kakayahan [34:06] ba [34:06] ako [34:06] financially [34:07] magtakbo [34:07] ang problema [34:08] ko [34:08] kung wala [34:09] yan [34:09] hindi [34:09] ako [34:10] tatakbo [34:10] pero [34:11] kung may [34:11] kakayanan [34:12] kayo [34:12] would you [34:13] even [34:13] consider [34:13] it [34:14] well [34:15] of course [34:15] I will [34:16] consider [34:17] it [34:17] diba [34:18] nagsasabi [34:19] talaga [34:20] akong [34:20] totoo [34:21] of course [34:22] meron [34:22] yan [34:22] local [34:23] is it [34:23] local [34:24] congress [34:24] kung [34:25] ano [34:25] ang [34:26] tingin [34:26] ng [34:26] tao [34:27] saan [34:27] ako [34:28] dapat [34:28] ako [34:28] magpapakandak [34:30] din [34:30] siguro [34:30] ako [34:30] ng [34:30] survey [34:31] saan [34:31] ba [34:31] ako [34:31] pwede [34:32] dyan [34:33] kasi [34:33] nakakahiya [34:33] naman [34:34] magpapapili [34:35] kay [34:35] hindi [34:38] kung [34:38] tingin [34:39] ko [34:39] saan [34:40] ako [34:40] pwede [34:40] dun [34:41] ako [34:41] pero [34:42] hindi [34:42] ko [34:42] naman [34:42] ilalagay [34:43] sarili [34:43] ko [34:43] kung [34:44] hindi [34:44] ako [34:44] bagay [34:45] dun [34:45] okay [34:45] so [34:46] balik [34:46] tayo [34:46] dun [34:46] sa [34:46] hanging [34:47] question [34:47] mo [34:47] kanina [34:48] is [34:50] the [34:50] marcos [34:50] administration [34:51] pulling [34:51] all [34:52] stops [34:52] to [34:52] prevent [34:53] a [34:53] Sarah [34:54] Duterte [34:54] presidency [34:55] in [34:55] 2020 [34:56] I [34:56] always [34:56] have [34:56] the [34:57] practice [34:59] and the [35:00] belief [35:00] that I [35:00] should [35:00] be [35:00] honest [35:01] there [35:01] is [35:01] that [35:02] perception [35:02] that [35:03] the [35:03] marcos [35:04] administration [35:05] is [35:05] actually [35:06] pulling [35:08] to [35:08] crucify [35:09] VP [35:09] Sarah [35:09] Duterte [35:10] and that [35:11] perception [35:11] is shared [35:12] by this [35:12] representation [35:13] the only [35:14] problem [35:14] is that [35:14] I don't [35:15] have [35:15] concrete [35:15] evidence [35:16] really [35:16] to prove [35:17] that [35:18] yung [35:19] atin [35:20] lamang [35:20] so [35:20] I [35:20] will [35:20] just [35:21] exercise [35:21] my [35:21] freedom [35:22] of [35:22] speech [35:22] yung [35:22] mga [35:23] circumstantial [35:24] evidences [35:24] lang [35:25] ang akin [35:26] na [35:27] pwedeng [35:28] masasabi [35:28] kaya [35:29] nga [35:29] I [35:30] stated [35:31] that [35:31] I [35:32] share [35:32] that [35:32] perception [35:33] yun [35:34] po [35:34] ang [35:34] answer [35:34] ko [35:35] dyan [35:35] in fact [35:35] I was [35:36] listening [35:37] to some [35:37] of the [35:37] stories [35:38] during [35:39] the weekend [35:40] with my [35:41] friends [35:41] and sabi [35:42] nila [35:42] parang [35:42] silent [35:44] martial [35:44] lo [35:45] ang [35:45] nangyayari [35:46] kasi [35:47] daw [35:47] karamihan [35:48] ng mga [35:48] oposisyon [35:49] who speaks [35:50] against [35:50] the [35:50] administration [35:51] is [35:52] either [35:52] nahaharas [35:53] nakakasuhan [35:54] or [35:54] nakukulong [35:54] so [35:55] those [35:56] are [35:56] the [35:56] comments [35:56] that [35:56] I've [35:57] been [35:57] hearing [35:57] yun [35:58] talaga [35:59] ako [35:59] I'm [36:00] in the [36:00] thick [36:00] of [36:00] things [36:01] about [36:01] that [36:02] statement [36:02] why [36:03] because [36:03] yung [36:03] pinakauna [36:04] talagang [36:04] napreso [36:05] or [36:05] pinireso [36:06] si [36:07] Pastor [36:07] Rapulo [36:08] si [36:08] Kibuloy [36:08] e [36:09] pangalawa [36:09] si [36:10] Tatay [36:10] Digong [36:11] e [36:11] pangatlo [36:12] ngayon [36:13] e [36:13] gusto [36:14] si [36:14] Senator [36:15] Marculeta [36:16] si [36:16] Congressman [36:17] Defensor [36:19] no [36:19] meron na [36:20] namang [36:20] pinaplanuhan [36:21] ngayon [36:21] na iba [36:22] mga kaibigan [36:23] ko rin [36:23] lahat [36:24] nakaalay [36:25] kay [36:25] Duterte [36:27] kay Tatay [36:28] Digong [36:28] so [36:29] kaya nga [36:29] there is [36:29] that [36:30] perception [36:30] that [36:31] the [36:32] Marcos [36:32] administration [36:33] is [36:34] pulling [36:34] all [36:35] its [36:35] resources [36:36] and [36:37] power [36:37] in order [36:38] to [36:38] crucify [36:39] those [36:39] who are [36:40] aligned [36:40] with [36:41] VP [36:41] Sara [36:41] Duterte [36:42] So [36:42] tingin nyo [36:43] lahat [36:43] ng mga [36:43] kasong [36:44] to [36:44] trump [36:44] up [36:45] lang [36:45] yung [36:45] mga [36:45] cases [36:46] wala [36:46] talagang [36:47] basis [36:47] yung [36:48] iba [36:48] siguro [36:49] may [36:49] kinds [36:49] of [36:50] basis [36:51] pero [36:52] sa tingin ko [36:54] parang [36:57] kung tao pa [36:58] linagyan [36:59] ng mga [36:59] make-up [36:59] para [37:00] at least [37:01] presentable [37:01] yun ang [37:02] tingin ko [37:02] pwede ako [37:03] magkamali [37:03] po [37:04] Tingin ko [37:05] meron naman [37:05] talaga [37:06] siguro [37:06] Tony [37:06] Barry [37:07] pero [37:07] ang [37:08] bigger [37:08] question [37:08] is [37:09] bakit [37:09] yung [37:09] ibang [37:10] allies [37:10] ng [37:11] administration [37:11] for sure [37:12] they have [37:12] similar [37:13] cases [37:13] especially [37:14] yung [37:14] flood [37:15] control [37:15] if we [37:15] talk [37:15] about [37:16] flood [37:16] control [37:16] and yet [37:17] walang [37:18] nakakasuhan [37:19] ng mga [37:20] allies [37:21] ng [37:21] administration [37:22] sa akin yun lang [37:23] ang isang [37:24] observation [37:25] at [37:25] nawawala [37:26] may mga [37:26] ongoing [37:27] investigations [37:28] lang [37:28] tapos [37:28] bigla [37:29] na lang [37:29] hindi [37:30] na pinag-uusapan [37:31] pag [37:32] bumaliktad [37:33] na [37:33] hindi [37:34] na pinag-uusapan [37:35] so [37:36] those [37:36] are [37:37] indicios [37:39] that [37:40] something [37:41] is going [37:41] on [37:41] which [37:42] cannot [37:42] be seen [37:43] by [37:43] the [37:43] general [37:44] public [37:44] hindi [37:45] naman [37:45] tayo [37:46] natatao [37:46] kahapon [37:47] hindi [37:47] tayo [37:47] pinanganak [37:48] kahapon [37:48] sa tingin [37:49] nyo [37:49] itong mga [37:49] senador [37:50] na lumipat [37:50] sa bagong [37:51] majority [37:51] there is that [37:52] perception [37:52] there is that [37:54] perception [37:54] na ganun [37:55] I hope [37:56] hindi sila [37:56] magagalit [37:57] sa akin [37:57] alam naman [37:58] nila [37:58] yan [37:58] dapat [37:59] alam [38:00] nila [38:00] alam [38:00] nila [38:01] wag na [38:01] tayo [38:02] mag [38:02] maskara [38:03] maskara [38:03] alam [38:04] nila [38:04] yan [38:04] kaya [38:04] nga [38:04] yung [38:05] iba [38:05] magaling [38:06] talaga [38:07] pinapakita [38:08] dun sa [38:08] senado [38:08] para [38:09] naman [38:09] makalimutan [38:10] konti [38:11] na [38:11] give in [38:12] din sila [38:13] and I do [38:14] hope and pray [38:14] natutuloyin [38:15] nila [38:15] kasi [38:15] tao [38:16] din [38:16] tayo [38:17] matatakot [38:17] din tayo [38:18] ako din [38:18] siguro [38:19] sa kanilang [38:20] sitwasyon [38:21] I might [38:22] although [38:22] dahil [38:23] siguro [38:23] sa [38:24] islamic [38:24] faith [38:25] ko [38:25] I [38:25] will [38:25] still [38:26] stick [38:27] to [38:27] my [38:27] position [38:28] pero [38:28] yun [38:29] nga [38:29] mayroon [38:30] talagang [38:30] perception [38:31] na [38:31] ganun [38:31] punta [38:33] po tayo [38:33] ulit [38:34] sa [38:34] ICC [38:34] conversation [38:35] over [38:37] the [38:37] past [38:37] few [38:38] weeks [38:39] may [38:39] mga [38:39] lumabas [38:40] sa [38:40] social [38:40] media [38:41] na [38:41] baka [38:41] daw [38:41] makalaya [38:42] na [38:42] si [38:42] dating [38:43] Pangulong [38:43] Duterte [38:44] meron [38:45] ba [38:45] kayong [38:45] ngaririnig [38:46] about [38:46] that [38:46] do you [38:48] think [38:48] that's [38:48] likely [38:49] well [38:49] anything [38:50] is [38:50] possible [38:50] in [38:50] this [38:51] world [38:51] yung [38:52] medical [38:53] reasons [38:53] can [38:54] always [38:54] be [38:54] raised [38:55] at [38:55] any [38:55] time [38:55] and [38:56] even [38:58] if [38:58] you [38:58] read [38:58] the [38:59] rules [38:59] of [39:00] procedure [39:00] of [39:00] the [39:01] ICC [39:02] as [39:03] contained [39:03] in [39:03] the [39:04] Rome [39:04] statute [39:04] and [39:05] its [39:05] issuances [39:06] possibly [39:09] ma-raise [39:10] at [39:10] any [39:10] time [39:11] yung [39:12] provisional [39:13] release [39:13] yes [39:14] yes [39:14] so [39:15] baka [39:17] yun [39:17] ang [39:17] inaiisip [39:18] ngayon [39:18] nung [39:19] abogado [39:19] ni [39:20] tatay [39:20] di [39:20] kong [39:21] na [39:21] nag [39:21] appear [39:21] talaga [39:21] doon [39:22] so [39:22] I hope [39:23] and [39:23] pray [39:24] na [39:24] magrunt [39:25] talaga [39:25] yun [39:25] may [39:25] effect [39:26] ba [39:26] attorney [39:26] barry [39:27] attorney [39:27] yun [39:28] yung [39:28] yung [39:29] sinasabi [39:29] yung [39:30] ginagawa [39:30] ng [39:30] US [39:31] saying [39:32] against [39:32] the [39:33] ICC [39:34] do you [39:35] think [39:35] may [39:35] effect [39:35] yun [39:35] sa [39:36] kaso [39:36] ni [39:36] PRRD [39:37] well [39:38] honestly [39:40] I'm hoping [39:42] na [39:43] meron [39:43] sanang [39:43] effect [39:44] kasi [39:45] ano [39:45] na yan [39:46] hindi [39:46] na yan [39:46] legal [39:47] parang [39:48] political [39:49] na yan [39:49] siya [39:50] mostly [39:50] political [39:51] naman [39:51] din [39:51] nangyayari [39:53] in a way [39:53] I don't [39:54] think [39:55] may [39:55] effect [39:55] on [39:55] pending [39:56] cases [39:57] ang [39:57] pinakwestiyon [39:59] ng US [39:59] is really [40:00] yung [40:01] institutional [40:01] standing [40:02] ng [40:02] ICC [40:03] not [40:04] particular [40:04] cases [40:06] and [40:06] it's [40:06] really [40:06] more [40:07] to [40:07] protect [40:07] their [40:08] own [40:08] service [40:09] people [40:10] na [40:10] nag-operate [40:11] sa [40:11] ano [40:11] so [40:12] tignin [40:13] go [40:13] the [40:13] political [40:14] pressure [40:14] obviously [40:15] would have [40:15] an effect [40:15] to [40:17] stretch [40:18] further [40:18] your [40:18] statement [40:19] perhaps [40:19] to [40:20] protect [40:20] Trump [40:20] also [40:21] by [40:21] his [40:22] union [40:22] against [40:23] war [40:26] against [40:26] Iran [40:26] at [40:28] marami [40:28] pang [40:28] iba [40:28] basta [40:29] hindi siya [40:29] lilipad [40:29] sa [40:29] bansa [40:30] ng [40:30] member [40:30] ng [40:30] ICC [40:31] hindi [40:31] naman [40:31] siya [40:31] pwede [40:31] kulihin [40:32] so [40:34] recently [40:36] may mga [40:36] sinasabi sila [40:37] na [40:38] si Mayor [40:38] Bastet [40:39] will be [40:40] the plan [40:40] B [40:41] of [40:41] Duterte [40:42] for [40:42] 2028 [40:43] you've been [40:44] close [40:45] supporters [40:45] of the [40:46] Dutertes [40:46] should [40:47] VP [40:47] Sarah [40:47] get [40:48] convicted [40:48] may [40:49] bas-bas [40:50] ba [40:50] ito [40:50] ni [40:50] PRRD [40:51] you think [40:52] si [40:52] Mayor [40:53] Bastet [40:53] well [40:54] I'm not [40:54] part [40:54] of that [40:55] conversation [40:55] I have [40:56] to be [40:56] honest [40:57] with [40:57] you [40:57] I'm [40:58] not [40:58] part [40:58] of [40:58] that [40:58] conversation [40:59] I did [41:00] not [41:00] hear [41:00] that [41:00] although [41:01] sa mga [41:02] ibang [41:02] mga [41:03] kasama [41:03] ko [41:03] in PDP [41:04] Laban [41:04] are [41:04] floating [41:05] that [41:05] idea [41:06] that [41:06] if [41:08] in case [41:08] talaga [41:09] the worst [41:09] case [41:10] scenario [41:10] would [41:11] happen [41:12] remove [41:13] from [41:14] office [41:14] si [41:15] VP [41:15] Sarah [41:16] si [41:17] Mayor [41:18] Bastet [41:18] ang [41:19] sagot [41:19] ko [41:19] naman [41:19] yan [41:20] if [41:20] that [41:20] really [41:20] happens [41:21] why [41:21] not [41:21] why [41:22] not [41:23] maybe [41:24] it [41:24] is [41:24] time [41:25] also [41:25] to [41:26] accept [41:27] a [41:27] Duterte [41:28] presidency [41:29] transferable [41:30] kaya [41:30] yun [41:31] or [41:32] is [41:32] it [41:32] just [41:32] really [41:33] the [41:33] family [41:33] name [41:34] tsaka [41:35] syempre [41:35] may [41:35] effect [41:36] pa rin [41:36] yung [41:36] impeachment [41:37] yung [41:38] process [41:38] yung [41:39] procedure [41:40] yung [41:40] yung [41:41] magiging [41:41] outcome [41:41] yan [41:42] regardless [41:42] if [41:42] it's [41:43] acquittal [41:44] or [41:44] not [41:44] that's [41:45] a [41:45] question [41:45] that [41:45] only [41:46] the [41:46] people [41:46] in [41:47] their [41:47] sovereign [41:47] capacity [41:48] can [41:48] decide [41:49] and [41:50] I [41:50] still [41:52] hope [41:52] but [41:53] in [41:54] your [41:54] opinion [41:54] sorry [41:54] to [41:55] cut [41:55] you [41:55] but [41:55] in [41:55] your [41:56] opinion [41:56] is [41:56] he [41:57] the [41:57] best [41:57] person [41:58] to [41:58] replace [41:59] VP [41:59] Sarah [42:00] no [42:00] ako [42:01] hindi [42:01] ako [42:02] nag-entertain [42:02] ng idea [42:03] talaga [42:03] na [42:03] ma-remove [42:04] si [42:05] VP [42:05] Sarah [42:05] confident [42:06] pa rin [42:07] ako [42:07] na [42:08] VP [42:08] Sarah [42:08] will [42:09] survive [42:09] because [42:10] the [42:10] evidences [42:10] wala [42:11] talaga [42:11] eh [42:11] nakakatawa [42:12] na nga [42:13] yung [42:13] evidences [42:13] nila [42:14] eh [42:14] pati [42:14] yung [42:15] grave [42:15] threat [42:15] na hindi [42:15] grave [42:16] threat [42:16] pipiliti [42:17] na grave [42:17] threat [42:17] wala [42:18] ngang [42:18] resolution [42:20] wala [42:20] ngang [42:21] kaso [42:21] if [42:21] final [42:21] na [42:22] criminal [42:22] case [42:22] ginawang [42:23] impeachment [42:23] case [42:24] oh [42:24] eto [42:25] na namang [42:25] mga [42:26] audit [42:30] all lawyers [42:30] know [42:31] that [42:31] pilit na [42:32] ginagawang [42:32] impeachment [42:33] case [42:34] so [42:34] objectively [42:35] as a [42:36] lawyer [42:36] I [42:37] think [42:37] na [42:38] VP [42:39] Sarah [42:39] will [42:40] survive [42:40] and [42:40] I'm [42:41] not [42:41] entertaining [42:41] the [42:42] probability [42:43] that [42:43] she [42:44] will [42:44] be [42:44] removed [42:45] and [42:45] I'm [42:46] praying [42:46] to [42:46] Allah [42:46] that [42:47] that [42:47] will [42:48] not [42:48] happen [42:48] kanina [42:49] nabanggit [42:50] nyo [42:50] yung [42:50] kaso [42:51] ni [42:51] Pastor [42:51] Kibuloy [42:52] can you [42:53] update [42:53] us [42:53] anong [42:54] current [42:54] status [42:55] well [42:55] it's [42:56] still [42:56] pending [42:57] in [42:57] anong [42:58] level [42:58] na [42:59] presentation [43:00] of [43:00] evidence [43:01] prosecution [43:02] evidence [43:03] sila [43:04] ngayon [43:04] and [43:04] dun sa [43:06] Pasig [43:06] na [43:07] stop [43:07] kasi [43:08] yung [43:09] first [43:10] judge [43:10] na [43:11] nagdeny [43:11] ng [43:11] kanyang [43:12] petition [43:12] for [43:12] bail [43:13] na [43:13] promote [43:13] naging [43:14] executive [43:17] parang [43:18] assistant [43:19] ng [43:19] clerk [43:19] of [43:19] court [43:20] sa [43:21] supreme [43:21] court [43:22] tapos [43:23] yung [43:24] pangalawang [43:25] judge [43:25] na [43:25] Ilocano [43:25] na [43:26] ano [43:27] po [43:27] na [43:28] wala [43:30] na [43:30] naman [43:30] sa [43:30] kaso [43:31] tapos [43:32] merong [43:34] judge [43:35] na [43:35] bagong [43:36] inappoint [43:39] yung [43:39] court [43:39] is [43:40] suprema [43:40] pinahinhibit [43:41] namin [43:41] naginhibit [43:42] naman [43:42] siya [43:43] so [43:43] pang [43:44] apat [43:44] na [43:44] judge [43:45] ngayon [43:45] tapos [43:47] yung [43:47] sa [43:48] Pasig [43:48] yan [43:49] so [43:50] pending [43:51] yung [43:51] issue [43:52] doon [43:52] as to [43:54] whether or [43:54] not [43:55] the [43:55] prosecution [43:57] can [43:58] be [43:58] allowed [43:58] to [43:58] belatedly [43:59] file [44:00] a [44:00] motion [44:01] to [44:01] visit [44:02] the [44:03] alleged [44:03] scene [44:05] of [44:05] the [44:05] crime [44:06] yun [44:06] yun [44:06] kasi [44:07] belated [44:07] na yun [44:08] tapos [44:08] na [44:08] sana [44:08] yung [44:08] issue [44:09] sa [44:11] aming [44:11] belief [44:11] dito [44:12] naman [44:13] sa [44:13] Quezon [44:13] City [44:14] pending [44:15] yung [44:16] cross [44:16] examination [44:16] ko [44:17] doon [44:18] sa [44:18] private [44:19] complainant [44:19] it [44:21] would [44:21] have [44:21] happened [44:21] last [44:22] week [44:22] pero [44:23] may [44:23] sakit [44:24] si [44:24] judge [44:24] na [44:25] resept [44:26] na [44:26] naman [44:26] kamusta [44:27] na po [44:27] ba [44:28] siya [44:28] ngayon [44:28] at [44:28] saka [44:28] i wonder [44:29] also [44:29] anong [44:30] nangyari [44:30] sa mga [44:30] supporters [44:31] din kaya [44:31] ni [44:31] pastor [44:33] kibuloy [44:34] puro [44:34] kasi [44:34] abogado [44:35] si [44:36] pastor [44:36] kaya [44:37] by the [44:37] grace [44:37] of [44:37] Allah [44:38] subhanahu [44:38] wa ta'ala [44:39] medyo [44:40] okay [44:40] na siya [44:41] ngayon [44:41] unlike [44:41] before [44:42] na [44:43] palaging [44:43] napupunta [44:45] sa [44:45] hospital [44:45] kasi [44:46] more [44:46] than [44:46] 70 [44:46] year [44:47] kailan [44:47] kayo [44:47] huling [44:47] nakita [44:48] last [44:50] week [44:50] last [44:51] Friday [44:52] or [44:52] Saturday [44:52] pinuntaan ko [44:53] siya [44:53] when you say [44:54] okay [44:54] he's healthy [44:55] he's healthy [44:56] yung moral niya [44:57] at least [44:58] nakarecover siya [44:59] yung moral niya [45:01] medyo nakarecover [45:02] si pastor [45:03] nung pumunta ako [45:05] nandun din yung [45:06] mga [45:07] ano niya [45:07] mga leaders niya [45:09] ng KOJC [45:11] so intact pa rin [45:12] of course [45:13] and it has [45:14] even become [45:15] stronger [45:16] meron palang [45:17] ganun na magnet [45:18] no [45:18] na kung [45:18] persecuted ka [45:20] marami din [45:21] mag support sa iyo [45:22] parang siyang [45:22] underdog [45:23] lumalabas [45:24] ganun [45:24] parang [45:25] yun [45:25] kasi [45:25] Muslim ako [45:26] hindi ako [45:26] member [45:27] sa religion [45:28] nila [45:28] pastor [45:29] pero [45:29] nakikita ko [45:30] ngayon [45:30] silently [45:31] mas dumadami [45:32] sila [45:32] yun ang [45:33] nakikita ko [45:34] kasi [45:34] kikita mo [45:36] dun sa kanilang [45:36] mga [45:37] misa [45:38] meron din silang [45:39] Sunday [45:40] services [45:41] mas dumadami [45:42] tapos [45:43] mas marami [45:44] silang [45:44] baptismal [45:45] rites [45:46] na [45:46] nangyayari [45:48] siguro [45:48] that's the [45:49] pool of [45:49] the [45:50] underdog [45:50] yun ang [45:51] nakikita [45:51] so [45:52] pupunta na tayo [45:52] dun sa ating [45:53] tough questions [45:54] kasi madali pa lang [45:55] yung mga [45:55] questions [45:55] ayun [45:56] ayun [45:56] walang [45:58] challenge [45:59] kay [46:00] torn [46:00] nito [46:00] riyan [46:01] so [46:01] first [46:01] tough [46:02] question [46:02] in the [46:03] 2025 [46:04] election [46:05] tumakbo si [46:05] former [46:07] president [46:07] Duterte [46:08] at si [46:08] pastor [46:09] Quibuloy [46:09] kahit [46:10] na nakadetain [46:10] na sila [46:11] will [46:11] either [46:11] one of [46:12] them [46:12] still [46:12] make [46:12] a bid [46:13] bid [46:13] in [46:13] 2028 [46:14] that's [46:15] a question [46:16] that only [46:17] the two [46:17] great [46:18] personalities [46:19] can answer [46:20] I do not [46:21] want to [46:21] speculate [46:22] although [46:22] I have [46:23] reasons [46:24] to believe [46:25] na baka [46:25] hindi [46:25] natatakbo [46:26] si pastor [46:27] pero [46:27] yan pa [46:27] rin [46:28] ang kanyang [46:28] siya lang [46:29] ang makadesisyon [46:30] po niyan [46:30] yung follow up [46:32] ko dun [46:32] sa pinag-usapan [46:33] natin [46:33] kay Mayor [46:34] Baste [46:34] kanina [46:34] why do you [46:35] think [46:35] si Mayor [46:36] Baste [46:36] and not [46:37] si Congressman [46:37] Pulong [46:38] ang parang [46:39] ginagawang [46:39] plan B [46:40] ng PDP [46:41] Laban [46:41] where you [46:42] are a [46:42] part of [46:43] well [46:43] si Mayor [46:45] Baste [46:45] kasi [46:45] sa tingin [46:47] ko lang [46:47] pwede [46:47] ako magkamali [46:48] ang presidente [46:49] ng PDP [46:50] Laban [46:50] si Congressman [46:52] Pulong [46:53] sa pagkakaalam [46:54] ko [46:54] hindi [46:54] nagpamiembro [46:55] sa PDP [46:57] Laban [46:57] si VP [46:58] Sara [46:58] hindi rin [46:59] miyembro [46:59] ng PDP [46:59] Laban [47:00] pero ibig sabihin [47:01] pwedeng hindi [47:03] they can be [47:03] a member [47:04] anytime [47:04] pero dahil [47:07] siya yung [47:09] aktibo [47:10] sa PDP [47:11] Laban [47:11] of course [47:12] yung mga [47:12] members [47:13] ng PDP [47:13] Laban [47:14] would [47:14] endorse him [47:16] pero alam mo [47:18] yung stand ko [47:18] ang pray ko [47:19] talaga [47:19] na [47:20] VP Sara [47:21] will [47:22] and has [47:23] to survive [47:24] I think [47:24] it's wise [47:25] also to have [47:25] plan B [47:26] whatever happens [47:29] if you were [47:32] a member [47:32] of the [47:33] legal [47:33] defense [47:33] team [47:33] of [47:34] VP Sara [47:34] what will [47:35] be your [47:36] best [47:36] defense [47:37] of the [47:37] alleged [47:37] misuse [47:38] of [47:38] confidential [47:38] funds [47:39] it's not [47:41] a case [47:41] it's not [47:42] a case [47:42] really [47:42] the evidence [47:44] consists [47:44] of AOMs [47:45] and at the [47:46] very least [47:47] my notice [47:47] of suspension [47:48] all lawyers [47:48] know [47:49] that they [47:50] are [47:50] preliminary [47:50] findings [47:51] hindi po meron [47:52] ng [47:52] commission [47:53] notice [47:54] of this [47:54] allowance [47:54] may commission [47:55] rolling [47:55] na [47:56] on the [47:56] confidential [47:57] fund [47:57] yes [47:57] yes [47:57] yes [47:57] and [47:58] such [47:58] would [47:59] strengthen [47:59] the [47:59] defense [48:00] of [48:00] VP Sara [48:01] Duterte [48:01] you know [48:02] the [48:03] necessary [48:04] evidence [48:05] required [48:06] in order [48:07] to remove [48:07] him [48:08] from office [48:09] is such [48:10] that [48:10] it would [48:11] really [48:11] constitute [48:11] culpable [48:12] violation [48:13] of the [48:13] constitution [48:14] treason [48:14] bribery [48:15] graft [48:16] and [48:16] corruption [48:17] other [48:18] high crimes [48:18] betrayal [48:19] of public [48:19] trust [48:20] at the [48:20] very least [48:20] we learned [48:21] that in [48:21] law school [48:22] na parang [48:23] pare-pareho [48:24] sana [48:24] doon [48:25] sa [48:25] culpable [48:26] violation [48:26] of the [48:27] constitution [48:27] bribery [48:28] yung mga [48:29] ebidensya [48:30] mo [48:30] kung ebidensya [48:31] mo [48:31] audit [48:32] observation [48:33] memorandum [48:34] lahat na [48:35] ng mga [48:35] public [48:36] officers [48:36] natin [48:37] mga [48:37] mayor [48:38] lahat na [48:39] sila [48:39] pwede [48:40] natanggalin [48:40] sa office [48:41] alam [48:41] naman [48:41] natin [48:42] kung yun [48:42] lang [48:42] ebidensya [48:43] mo [48:43] hindi [48:43] po [48:43] pwede [48:44] yan [48:44] actually [48:44] that's [48:45] yung [48:45] point [48:45] ko [48:45] doon [48:46] gusto [48:46] I'm [48:50] look at [48:50] and [48:50] treat [48:50] the [48:51] confidential [48:51] funds [48:52] after [48:52] this [48:52] impeachment [48:53] I hope [48:54] may magandang [48:55] mangyari [48:55] another [48:56] tough [48:57] question [48:57] if [48:58] senator [48:58] bato [48:58] is [48:58] listening [48:59] or [48:59] watching [48:59] now [49:00] what [49:00] is [49:00] your [49:00] message [49:01] to [49:01] him [49:01] as [49:01] a [49:02] friend [49:02] and [49:03] also [49:04] as [49:04] a [49:04] legal [49:04] counsel [49:05] laban [49:05] lang [49:06] laban [49:06] lang [49:07] tayo [49:07] lahat [49:10] po [49:10] ng [49:11] problema [49:11] ay [49:12] dumadaan [49:13] lamang [49:13] hindi [49:13] po [49:13] ba [49:14] galingan [49:14] mong [49:14] magtago [49:15] di [49:15] hindi [49:16] po [49:16] laban [49:17] lang [49:17] laban [49:17] lang [49:18] when [49:19] there is [49:19] difficulty [49:20] there is [49:20] ease [49:21] there is [49:21] that [49:21] quranic [49:22] provision [49:22] there is [49:23] difficulty [49:24] there is [49:24] ease [49:24] so long [49:25] as you [49:25] have [49:25] faith [49:26] in Allah [49:26] subhanahu [49:27] wa ta'ala [49:27] I know [49:28] relief [49:29] succor [49:30] will come [49:31] okay [49:32] maraming [49:33] maraming [49:33] salamat [49:34] this is my [49:34] first time [49:35] that I met [49:35] you personally [49:36] at ornitor [49:37] yun [49:37] my pleasure [49:38] sir [49:38] thank you [49:39] thank you [49:39] thank you [49:40] so much [49:40] for being [49:40] here [49:41] yes [49:41] yes [49:41] yes [49:42] such a [49:42] pleasure [49:43] also [49:43] to be [49:43] here [49:44] butin [49:45] lang [49:45] hindi [49:45] ako [49:46] masyadong [49:46] politics [49:52] may shape [49:52] the headlines [49:53] but only [49:53] the truth [49:54] should shape [49:54] the verdict [49:55] the toughest [49:56] questions [49:57] are the ones [49:57] the public [49:58] deserve [49:59] to have [49:59] answers [50:00] I'm former [50:01] secretary [50:01] Reg Fajardo [50:02] and I'm [50:02] former [50:03] VP [50:03] spokesperson [50:04] attorney [50:04] Barry [50:04] Gutierrez [50:05] and we [50:05] are [50:06] the spokes [50:07] next [50:07] to be [50:08] next [50:09] to be [50:09] next