City Council — Oct 22, 2025

Good evening and welcome. If everybody can please find their seats. The Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025 City of Plantation City Council meeting is now called to order. The time is 6 p.m. Ms. Beggarrow, please call the roll. Councilmember Anderson. Here. Councilmember Andreu. Here. Councilmember Fadgen. Here. Councilmember Horland. Here. Councilmember Reinstein. Here. Mayor Sortel. Here. City Attorney Ezra. Here. Thank you. Thank you very much. Tonight's opening remarks and Pledge of Allegiance will be provided by Councilmember Fadgen tonight. Councilmember Fadgen, the floor is yours. Thank you, Council President Reinstein. I invited Reverend Dr. Marta Burke, who is the lead pastor at Plantation United Methodist Church, to lead us to our invocation. She's always ready and available. If we could stand to pray. Yes. Thank you. If we could remain standing for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Manchester Republic. Thank you. Thank you very much, Councilmember Fadgen. Next on the agenda is items submitted by the mayor. And, Mayor Sortel, the floor is yours. So, first off, we are doing Teachers of the Month. Is anybody from the Education Advisory Board here? You? Are you going to help read and hand off? I'll read. Okay. You can turn the pages. I'll read. Okay, so... Welcome, Ms. Valenzuela. Thank you. Yes, indeed. So, we have three outstanding teachers a month. Come on up. Andrea Gresham, Mirror Lake Elementary. Clap. Better known on social media as Teach Gresham. Right. Anthony Soliveris, Plantation Middle School. And Dr. Marsha Samuels, South Plantation High School. So, here's our proclamation. Whereas the City of Plantation deeply values the dedication, passion, and tireless commitment of its educators who shape the minds and hearts of our future generations, and whereas teachers play an essential role in building strong communities, fostering lifelong learning, and inspiring students to reach their full potential, and whereas the City of Plantation City Council wishes to recognize and celebrate the exceptional contributions of teachers, and whereas the individuals being honored this month have demonstrated excellence in teaching, innovative practices, compassion, and leadership. Now, therefore, I, next sort of mayor, and the City Council of Plantation do hereby proclaim the following individuals as outstanding teachers of the month. So, I gave you the second half of this story. I want Michael Tosig, President of the Education Advisory Board, give us the front end of how you started this. The Education Advisory Board, this is a new program. This is the first time we're doing it. Anything else you want to add? You want me to run with that? I got it if you want it. You got it. Okay. So, the Education Advisory Board is an advisory board. They meet the first Monday of each month. You don't have to be a member to show up at the meetings. If you want to show up and you care about schools, come up and listen. Come up and give us your opinion. We want to hear from all of you. Their opinion was that teachers needed a little more recognition and a little more oomph. So, they now have a registration process. You sign up and nominate your teacher. People pick them out, and they get more than a proclamation. What do they get? Tell them what they got. Businesses across the city of Plantation and some in other cities have decided that they will provide gifts for these very deserving teachers. So, this evening, Sunshine Literacy, who is here in Plantation and also in Cooper City, has provided gifts for Ms. Grisham, Mr. Soloveris, and a teacher that's missing. I apologize to you at South, and they send their best regards. I'm so sorry, Dr. Samuels. She's a singer, not a reader. We'll get it done by the night time. We'll get it right. Right, right, right. Broward Center for the Performing Arts has sponsored a gift for Dr. Samuels, two tickets to an upcoming show, and we can't forget Milky Moos. They've provided a sweet treat for 27 honorees. So, that will cover all of our teachers who we will award gifts to throughout the year. And are there any representatives here from Milky Moos from Broward Center for the Performing Arts or Sunshine Literacy this evening? No. Dr. Ackerman. Okay. We do have Plantation Women's Club. Right. Which is right to check. Go for it. And this is Dr. Ackerman. Dr. Ackerman, would you like to come up? The Plantation Women's Club has graciously offered to be our title sponsor, and they will be offering a $100 gift card for each of the recipients for the whole year. So, we asked for something smaller, and they said, what do you really want? And I said, well, I figured, you know, you ask for questions. You try to shoot for the stars and land on the moon. He goes, but all you did was land on the moon and hope to get what you got. How about if we do this? Because, like everything else in our city, you've got to love the Plantation Women's Club. You asked. They do so much. Every place you look. So, Dr. Helen Ackerman is here representing the Women's Club tonight, and we will be getting the gift cards to the recipients very shortly. I spoke to Corinne earlier today, so we're all good. Thank you. So, again, thank you for the education. It all starts with education wherever we are. So, we appreciate the teachers that shape our lives. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. So, if you want to take pictures, come up. We're going to do our pictures. You guys can hear in the middle, if you don't mind. And before the mayor continues, I just want to add that, you know, if you're not familiar with our advisory boards in our city, we have a number of different advisory boards, and over the past few years, we've been trying to empower our advisory boards even more. And so, this was a great example of the educational advisory board. They really wanted to do something, and they knew that they had to actually work to make it happen. And they went out into the city, and they found all these great sponsors, and, you know, they would be the first to tell you that we can never do enough to show our support and gratitude to our teachers. But this is a start, and we have some great teachers that are honored today representing their schools and other teachers. So, congratulations again. Now, for the big event, Chief Todd with the Fire Awards. Come on, Sparky. All right, good evening. Tonight is a special night, because we get to recognize winners from our Art and Literature Contest. Also, recognize our Member of the Year and Business of the Year, and it's Fire Prevention Month. So, I'm going to bring up Battalion Chief Will Bacon, and he's going to read off the winners, and we'll bring them up and recognize them, and a feel-good moment. Thank you. So, our Art and Literature Contest is divided, actually, into three categories. We have Art, we have Literature, and we have the Digital component of the contest. So, we're going to start on the Art side. In the K-3 category, Alicia, I apologize in advance. Alicia Rosohanskaya, American Heritage, 3rd Grade, Mrs. Warren. Second prize for K-3, Valentina Perez, Central Park, 3rd Grade, Mrs. Castillo. And our first place winner in the K-3 division, Morgan Urquhart, Central Park, 3rd Grade, Mrs. Castillo. All right. Let's play, Morgan. Pretty smile. One, two, three, perfect. In the 4th and 5th Grade Division, 3rd place winner, Alina Ramirez from the Imagine School, 4th Grade, Mr. Brittingham. Second place in the 4th and 5th Grade Division, Haoshi Luan, American Heritage, 5th Grade, Mrs. Warren. And our first place winner in grades 4 through 5 for the Art Contest, Benjamin Proenza, Central Park, 4th Grade, Mr. Vailu. Now moving to the Literature Contest. In grades 1 through 3, we had one sole winner receiving first place in that division, Celine Rodriguez, 3rd Grade, Central Park, Mrs. Castillo. Okay. Well, Celine, we wish you well wherever you are. In the 2nd Division for the Literature Contest, grades 4 through 5, 3rd place, Zahida Gaston, 5th Grade, Peters Elementary, Mrs. Brockman. Second place, Callie Evans, 4th Grade, Tropical Elementary, Mrs. Lindholm. And in first place, grades 4 through 5, Ian Creasy, 4th Grade, Tropical Elementary, Mrs. Lindholm. Okay. As our first place winner, Ian is going to read his essay for all of us here. You can face that. Charge into fire safety. Did you know that most of the electronics that we use in everyday life has lithium-ion batteries in them? Things like our laptops, iPhones, iPads, and smartwatches all use these batteries. Lithium-ion batteries can be extremely dangerous and powerful if you don't take good care of them and don't use them correctly. With great power comes great responsibility from the owner. Lithium-ion batteries can be very powerful. They have tiny lithium-ions that move back and forth to store energy and release energy. If a lithium-ion battery gets too hot or too cold, it can overheat and catch fire or explode. One thing you can do to be safe with these lithium-ion batteries is to never charge a device on a soft surface like your bed or a pillow or a couch. You should always charge a device on a hard, flat surface like a table or even a desk at home. Picture this. You're going to sleep and you left your device you're charging on your bed by accident. Suddenly, you wake up to a fire that's in your room and you could lose your life, in your family's life. This has actually happened to me before. One time during summer, I was up late and I fell asleep with the charging block on my bed. When my mom woke me up, she noticed it and told me what could have happened. I never fell asleep with the charging block on my bed ever again. This is why charging devices with lithium-ion batteries safely is so important. Always remember to use a charger that comes from the company you bought the item from or a charger approved by the company. Whenever the device is out 100%, unplug it and enjoy. Make sure to never overcharge any electronics with lithium-ion batteries. A fire or explosion can also happen by throwing away lithium-ion batteries in a regular garbage can or a recycle bin. Instead, throw it away at a safe battery recycling location. In conclusion, lithium-ion batteries can be very helpful to us but also very dangerous. Make sure to charge into fire safety. All right, now to our digital contest winners. Third place, Paxton Martinez, Central Park, 4th grade, Mr. Vailu. Second place, Landon Maddox, Central Park, 4th grade, Mr. Vailu. And our first place winner in the digital contest was Harper Braddy, Central Park, 3rd grade, Mrs. Batten. Another round of applause for all of our winners tonight. Every year our department, we look at the previous year and we evaluate the businesses who provided a great amount of support to us, whether operationally, whether with our equipment, whether with our association, whether with our events. And this past year we recognized a business that has been very critical in supporting our program that we have started up with our therapy dogs, with our behavioral health unit within the department. And so in recognition of all the support that they have pledged to us this year and in years to come, we're proud to recognize PAWS Veterinary Center with Dr. and Alana Hefter receiving the award tonight. Sparky's a little nervous. Well, the veterinary center now is one of our honored partners, so he's going to get up on his shots finally. Lastly, our member of the year. So our CERT team was established in 2021, and they exist mainly to support fire department operations in a variety of ways, whether we're doing a training exercise, whether we're doing an incident. They help us out at city and parks events. They've also helped PD at times. And one of those members really stood out over the last year with the support that she's provided, the way that she's been available to help us out, the way that she's been relentlessly trying to recruit new members to this team. And so tonight, as the Plantation Fire Department Member of the Year 2025, we are proud to recognize Candy Coleman. Counsel? Congratulations, Candy. Thank you. One second. One second. How about you? All right. I'm going to ask everybody to sit tight just for a minute. We've got three more awards, if you can hang in there for our employees. And then we'll take a break, and everybody can all leap together. Go ahead, Chief. All right. Hey, that's our future. How impressive is that? Could you imagine fifth grade, standing up, reading like that in front of everybody? That would have been nerve-wracking. But thank you for your patience, and we'll see you next year. Well, I'll see you next month. See you next month. Okay. We have three service awards. I'm sorry. What's that? Go ahead. I'll never interrupt you more than three more times. Don't forget the barbecue. Mark Waters wanted to make sure that I told everybody the barbecue November 2nd. Do not forget. Thank you. Have a good night. Am I good now? Yes, sir. Okay. 15 years. Joseph Cuccia, police. I got you here. You want to say anything? Yeah, sure. I just want to say thank you. It's been an honor and a privilege to serve this community for the past 15 years. Can't wait to do at least another 15 more. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. A family? All right. Oh. That's like a Jets wearing a Dolphins helmet. Oh, yeah. All right. Want me to hear too? Yeah, come on in. Okay. Yeah, why not? Sure. He does that. He shoots on two. All right. 20 years. Brandy Clink, fire. Family, come on up, too. Remember? What you got? Anybody? All right. Thank you. Thank you. Want to say anything? Thank you. It's been 20 years. I can't believe it. It was just 20 years ago that it was bothering EMS Division Chief, Aroldo Corbello, and I'll be doing it for another 20. Here we go. Thank you. Thank you. How long have we got to do this? And, you know, I'm going to say it a little bit. Do you need a picture here with your camera? Level. Okay. Stay right there. All right. One, two, three. If you're related to her, come up. Absolutely. Sorry. Yep. Eight in line. Squeeze in there. This is your Christmas card picture. You're doing fun. Squeeze in the back. All right. Over this way. Look at me. Big smiles. One, two. And 25 years. Mary Ann Mambiro. So, I got to visit their compound where they work, and that is the most spirited group of people who laugh and cajole and pick each other up. It was a great time seeing you all. It was. It was awesome. It was great. It was awesome. You want to say anything? Sure. I don't know where 25 years went, honestly. I will not be here for another 25. I will promise that. You worked everywhere. Tell them where you worked. I've worked. I started as a courier in 96. I did that four years, and I went full-time, and I started in purchasing, which was purchasing back then. It's procurement now, and I did that for 11 years as a buyer. Then I went into finance for about seven years, and now I'm in utilities. Awesome. And my mother worked in a utility water plant when she was first starting out, so I'm ending my career in a water plant. There you go. Want a photo? Want a photo? Want a photo? Love the photo. Thank you. There you go. Take your thing. We're good. Mayor? Mayor? We might have a late arrival for one of the students. Will, you got it? Okay. We gave away the money. First place in K-3. Celine, we've been waiting here for you. Everybody is here for you. Congratulations. Thank you, Celine. Congratulations to all the recipients, and thank you, everybody, for staying for all. You're welcome to stay for the rest of the meeting. If you do need to leave, we just ask that you leave quietly, because our Parks and Rec director is already up and going to give us an update. So, Ms. O'Toole, you're up. And apparently, some people are leaving. I was going to mention the barbecue, but, you know, since they're leaving, I won't now. Just kidding. Let's give 30 seconds, Ms. O'Toole. Okay. Go ahead. Oh. Well, I was going to say that was a year ago. Tonight. Tonight. Well, technically tomorrow, but it is. Director O'Toole, you are up. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. A couple of events in the Parks and Recreation Department. The first one is not technically our event, but it's more of a PSA. It's our first evening 5K that we're doing at Central Park. That is the Wicked Wild Fright Night 5K. That's at Central Park at 6.30 p.m. This Saturday, also, October 25th and Sunday, the 26th, the Plantation Historical Society's Plan Affair at Volunteer Park. Friday, October 31st, is our annual Trunk or Treat at Pine Island Park from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Please remember, we are going to be allowing residents, plantation residents only, to that event, so please bring an ID. Sunday, November 2nd, the 66th Annual Plantation Volunteer Firefighters Barbecue at Pine Island Park from 12 to 5. In our tennis division, this Saturday, the 25th and Sunday, the 26th, USTA Junior Level 6 Tennis Tournament. Matches start at 8 a.m. every day. Saturday, November 1st through Monday, November 3rd, USTA Level 5 Junior Matches also start at 8 a.m. In our aquatics division, we have a swim meet Friday, October 31st through Saturday the 1st at Central Park. Starts at 5 p.m. on Friday, Saturday, 8 a.m. Lap swimming will be available to the public during the meet. At our equestrian center, Sunday, October 26th, the Plantation Acre Saddle Club Horse Show at 8.30. Saturday, November 1st and Sunday the 2nd is an IEA Horse Show at 8 a.m. Both days. And in our athletics division, we're registering for PAL Baseball, Basketball, and Softball. Thank you. Thank you very much. We will now recess the City Council meeting at 6.31 p.m. and call to order the CRA meeting. Ms. Beggarro, please call the roll for the CRA. Commissioner Anderson? Here. Commissioner Andreu? Here. Commissioner Fadgen? Here. Commissioner Horland? Here. Commissioner Reinstein? Here. Commissioner Sortle? Here. City Attorney Ezra? Here. Thank you. Thank you very much. The CRA Consent Agenda consists of Items 1 through 3 and may be approved with one motion. It does not look like I have any members of the public who wish to pull any consent items, so do I have a motion from the dais? I'm up. Do I have a second? Second. It's been moved and seconded. Seeing no further discussion, no further comments as to the Consent Agenda, Ms. Beggarro, please call the roll. Commissioner Anderson? Yes. Commissioner Andreu? Yes. Commissioner Fadgen? Yes. Commissioner Horland? Yes. Commissioner Reinstein? Yes. Commissioner Sortle? Yes. Thank you. Next up, we have public requests of the commissioners regarding the CRA, and Mr. Conklin, you are recognized for your three minutes or less. Dennis Conklin, 4581 Northwest 6 Court. Heavenly hosts protect you and all of your families. My request from the commissioners is that you put your commissioner nameplates up, please, because there's six of you, and the mayor sort of doesn't get recognition if you don't all have your nameplates up. Number two, when Plantation General Hospital is demolished, please do not permit high-rise residences to be more than three stories tall, and please make them ownership and not rentals. And I'll yield back my time. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. There's no yielding back your time, but we thank you for your comments. Seeing no further discussion on and no further requests of the commissioners regarding the CRA, the CRA is now adjourned at 6.33 p.m., and we will now reconvene the city council meeting at 6.33 p.m. We will begin with public requests of council regarding municipal affairs. To those who wish to speak, we request that you complete a speaker form. If you have not done so already, please do so. When you are called, please approach the podium and make sure the green light is on the microphone. You will have three minutes to make your request to council. Please state your name and address, and please address your remarks to the council president, not the mayor, nor individual members of the council. Please keep your remarks to the allotted three minutes. Please use your time efficiently. If extra time will be needed to conclude your remarks, please ask for it as your time is expiring and not prior to beginning your remarks. First, we will call on Richard Davies, followed by Joshua O'Brien, followed by Mr. Conklin. Mr. Davies, welcome to the council meeting. I see the green light, so I guess I've got the three minutes. Okay. Richard S. Davis. I go by Steve. I'm a relatively new resident to Plantation. Moved here last year. I'm at 1741 54th Terrace, right here in Plantation. I've come tonight to speak with you. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you to discuss something that I've come to find out you've discussed before. It has to do with trash collection. It's a little odd to me. Moved down here in 2014 from northern Virginia, a suburb of D.C. For decades, we had wheeled trash cans. We kept the trash contained between collection days, took it out on specific days, and it was picked up. Moved to Weston, was there for 10 years. We have wheeled trash collection. Recycle cans and trash cans. Everything stays contained, neat, efficient. I have an investment home in Fort Lauderdale, same thing, and there they have a brown recycle can for yard debris. I moved to Plantation, and we have trash bags. I'm like, okay, that seems to be a little odd. Once we get to the point where we have more than one trash bag in the blue, I call them blue or green bags, my wife can't pick it up, so it's always on me. So I just don't, I guess I'm trying to understand what's been going on. We, you know, we're dealing with trash that needs to stay contained during the week in between collection days. The task of getting it bundled up and bagged up and out to the street. We have a continual cost of buying trash bags, and these days we're paying a lot for groceries. We're paying $10 for eggs. We're paying $5 for bread. This is ridiculous that we keep buying trash bags just to keep throwing them away. The other day I came home from work, and there's trash out on the front yard, along the front, along the street. My guess is it was a raccoon. I've got a raccoon living in the area. So I picked it up, and I was thinking, this really isn't necessary. Trash cans keep things so that animals can't get to them. They're easier to get out to the street. I have to believe for elderly residents and that type of thing, it would be easier to get it out there. My wife and my daughters, who are all smaller, were able to get this trash to the street. They can't do it with trash bags. Further to that, I came home two days ago, and the recycle bag is still sitting there with stickers on it that says, oops, wrong bag. I was thinking, what's wrong with the trash bag? So I called Public Works. They said, oh no, it can't be a clear plastic bag. It has to be a clear plastic bag that says, City of Plantation approved clear plastic bag. I'm like, aren't all clear plastic bags equal? No. So that one has me completely not understanding that one. I'm here to kind of voice my opinion and ask the council what gives. Why do we have to do this? Why do we have to go through this? Why is only a certain trash bag approved? So thank you very much for bringing that to our attention. You may not be surprised to hear that there's lots of discussions all the time on our blue bag system, and there are some very precise answers. What I'm going to do is I'm going to turn to our resident expert and ask if Ms. Morris wants to get, no, I'm going to ask her to give a 60 second about our process, and then I welcome you to speak to her afterwards because all of your questions have responses and have answers to it that are, frankly, are not new to us, but I think you may actually be a little bit enlightened as to the reason behind our system and why we've kept that system. And there's a future in sight that may change that just based on the way the waste management works and the way things are working in the county. So I'm going to ask Ms. Morris to come up, see if she can give something very brief, and then to give you her contact card so you guys can follow up. Thank you very much. You may want to chat later. Carol Morris, I feel the need to define myself as garbage queen tonight. 60 seconds. Oh, boy, this is a lot to cover in 60 seconds. Long story short, pay-as-you-throw, garbage system goes back many, many moons. The reason you are required to use the blue bags is the cost of disposing of the contents of the blue bag is actually built into the cost of the blue bag, which is why your blue bag price is higher than your standard price in the grocery store. Similar type of thing with the recycle bags. Blue bags and carts, we do have a couple of areas of the community that are serviced by carts is sort of a hot topic, and it is one that we have been looking at because we're concerned about the fact that our franchise agreement expires in 2028. We are looking at going out to bid for a new franchise, so we need to come to some conclusions as to what we think will be the most sustainable and most efficient manner in which to collect garbage going forward. Towards that end, we are currently out on a RFSP for a solid waste consultant who will help us work through that process of carts and bags, or is there some middle ground or some better system out there. We'll then come back to you after public engagement so that we can hopefully come to consensus on what it is you want to bid for, and then we'll go through the process of drafting the bid and looking at the transition and a new franchisee. So it is a bit of a lengthy process, but, you know, we have heard the complaints and we are trying to move it forward. Thank you, Ms. Morris, so Mr. Davis, I'm just going to add one thing. I want to make sure to repeat something that was said, is that we refer to it as our pay-as-you-throw system. And so the price of the blue bags and the price of the recyclable bags, the reason why you're required a certain type, is those are worked into the contract, so that doesn't come back to the city directly. It's part of our payment to the contract for waste management. So for those people that don't have a lot of garbage, they're paying less because they're utilizing less blue bags and less recyclable bags. The more garbage you use, the more it pays you throw. So we're going to leave it at that right now. Please speak to Ms. Morris. I welcome you to come back if you have any follow-up questions or reach out to us individually. We'd be happy to speak to you further. Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks for living here and thank you for your questions. Mr. O'Brien, you're up and we'll follow by Mr. Conklin. We might see some change following that. So it's out for bid right now or will be out for bid. If I may, I may. It will be out for bid, yeah. Thank you. My name is Josh O'Brien. The topic is an ongoing neighboring harassment over a canopy. It's also about code compliant misuse, the complaint systems being misused. So I'm a little bit nervous doing this in front of everybody. So my name is Josh O'Brien. I live in Plantation since 2014. I'm an active firefighter for over 10 and a half years now. My wife and I now have a 10-month-old son, product of IVF, and that was, without insurance, also quite an expensive process. We have more embryos. We're going for the girl next year. Again, expensive out of pocket. So I'm here to bring you attention to ongoing harassment, repeated code complaints from a neighbor on the south side of my property. I'm at 261 South Fig Tree Lane, Plantation, Florida, 33317. Sue and Ozzie, they're my neighbors. Sue has never liked that I had a trailer or a boat on the property. The boat's no longer there, but there is an RV there. The day I had an RV there, she threw a fit. So I put up a canopy over it, didn't know. I don't think anybody knows that there's a 10-foot easement setback rule, regulations. You don't get a handbook when you go buy a house. So she goes to city council meetings, and I guess she stirred up a ruckus because no one wants to touch this in zoning. No one wants to touch this in the permitting department. No one wants to touch it in code enforcement. I've been told verbally that they don't even want to come up and have their names be brought up, so I won't bring their names up, that this is something they don't want to be used as a weapon against. So imagine having to go home and tell your wife that we must delay putting on our next IVVF baby because I have to spend $10,000 on bushes. That doesn't sound very fair, does it? So a little background is she doesn't like the RV, doesn't like the trailer. I already removed the canopy that cost me $4,000, cost me another fee to remove the canopy. Before installing the canopy, I went to reach out to code enforcement and the zoning department to make sure I followed all the regulations. Unfortunately, I spoke with Mr. Brown, who's in landscaping. I didn't get the proper knowledge that I needed to know before installing it or the zoning. When I was later told the canopy wasn't permitted, I removed it. So going forward, the city has informed me that the canopies are under review. So I'm not not allowed to have a canopy, but because of the setback, there's an issue. Go anywhere in the neighborhood, everyone has one. I'm told I need to comply with proper screening. Six-foot fence won't cut it, eight-foot necessary, or bushes with dense vegetation. Now I'm trying to get proper verbiage of what's dense vegetation, how long do I have for the dense vegetation to grow to the proper height. No one's giving me concise answers. So there's a lot of gray area within the city. No one wants to give me the right answer. If I don't get the right answer, I go and spend all the money to fix this, she's going to come and complain no matter what. So you're going to see her again. So I've spent over $650 on property survey, $2,000 hiring an architect, $4,000 on a canopy removal of the canopy. I have a quote there for bushes of over $7,500. Come on, guys. This makes no sense. Now, it goes further. She put my house on Facebook, public forum, not only in public forum but also here verbally. She took pictures of it. She posted it online. And within 24 hours, she had over 250 comments belittling her for what she's putting up and how she's being a bad neighbor. Not only that, but she listed the contents in my backyard. It shouldn't be allowed. I'm sorry you're going through this. I'm going to turn to the administration for a second. Is there somebody who you think could give him some further clarification to some of the questions that he's raised? I'm not really sure what the – there was a comment regarding the canopy under review. Not mine, but in general, in the entire city, canopies are under review. Okay. I'm going to ask Mr. Nunamaker if you want to step aside just for a second and – I would just suggest that maybe we have him talk to Mr. Holmes outside. If the canopies are under review and that's a specific issue, maybe we can hold that in abeyance while those issues get worked out, but just have a little bit more conversation on it so we know the exact nature of it. So, thank you. So, I'm going to – maybe before – Mr. O'Brien, before you leave, is that if you can come back up and I appreciate you bringing this all to us and maybe – I don't know if my colleagues heard something else, but what are you asking from us? What – you know, come back to the – if you come back to the microphone, because I do recall the other individual who has come before us as well, and I'm not familiar with every single detail in terms of what code has said or not said other than what you're telling us and what she's told us. So, what I'd like is fair treatment. I know that she's caused such a ruckus that people don't want to touch it. That's not fair to me. Look at it appropriately and – I'm going to ask you for one more clarification, because I want to make sure that I fully understand it. Is when you say that people don't want to touch it – I heard you say that some people were there and don't want to be named. What does that mean, people don't want to touch it? So, Asha has said that she was – she was out of town for her personal issue, right? Well, she didn't want to be used as a weapon. That was her personal word. She knew that this lady was going after me over something nonsense-wise. That the shed that she was calling in a complaint system was – I already had approval for it, so she was misusing the complaint system already. So, she already knew that this was her misuse. I don't really know how to exactly answer your question. Well, what I'm asking for is for, I guess, either A, allow me to put my canopy back up. Don't make me spend another $5,000 to $8,000 on a fence, $8,000 on bushes. But if I am going to put up bushes, maybe make the city give me clear, concise answers of exactly what's going to be the regulations that I need to put up. And if I can put them all the way up to the sidewalk, can I do that? And if I can, is there an issue with her backing out of her driveway so that she has to be able to have a line of sight? I got some answers, but not concise answers. Perfect. So, that further elaboration is very helpful. And I'm going to let the mayor jump in, and then I know Mr. Holmes, Director Holmes, also will be able to speak to you outside. Mayor? What I believe you're saying is just make the call. Make the decision, make the call, and get your decision. Tell me exactly what I need to do, and I'll do it. We have been talking about it, and there have been some complications in many departments. So, what I did was you send me an email. He introduced you to Jason, who you just met, and to Mr. Holmes. You now have their email in your email. Great. Thank you. So, you got it there. And anything else you all want to handle? Yeah. Should I wait to discuss that? Yeah, Mr. Holmes is going to walk with you outside. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very much for bringing this to us. And Mr. Conklin. If I may approach. Dennis Conklin, 4581 Northwest Sixth Court. I'm going to do number two first. Forty-two days ago, Charlie Kirk, the Christian admirer and founder of Turning Point USA, the Christian ministry to college campuses, was assassinated. My request is for the city to outreach to the three city high schools, that's Plantation, South Plantation, and American Heritage Upper School, and see if they might be interested in beginning chapters for high school. Nova Southeast University has a campus outreach for Turning Point. Two years and 15 days ago, terrorist organization Hamas began its war against Israel. Nine days ago, President Trump's Gaza declaration was signed by the United States, Egypt, Qatar, Turkey, and it was attended by 28 other countries and four international organization representatives. Hamas is returning the 48 hostages. All the living hostages have been returned and the dead are being returned. Five hundred, forty days ago, coordinated college jihad began attacking Jewish people on college campuses across America. The jihad quickly spread, especially to sanctuary cities across America. Hamas is the military wing of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization. However, CARE, the Council on American Islamic Relations, is the propaganda wing of the same. CARE operates in open America, especially in Florida, and even within our federal government. When Dr. Bob Levy was City Council President, CARE attempted to stage an event in Plantation. Joe Kaufman came, participated in the City Council meeting, and exposed the unindicted co-conspirator, Hamas terrorist pedigree of the CARE founder. With that evidence presented, Dr. Levy was able to prevent the CARE event in Plantation. Congress has recently passed H.R. 4097 to designate CARE a terrorist organization. I'm requesting that the city designate CARE a terrorist organization. 2,049 days ago, a public health emergency was declared with lockdown's closing of America's houses of worship. Mandatory masks and shots, officially called countermeasures in all literature, created the loss of our unalienable God-given individual lives. 460 days and 396 days ago, two assassination attempts on the life of President Donald John Trump. Six days ago, an iguana hunter's stand, a.k.a. sniper's nest, was discovered in direct line with President Trump's Air Force One deep-planing tarmac location. Gold closed at $2,683 an ounce for the CAFR in 2024. Today, it closed at $4,021 an ounce. That's a 53.6% loss in dollars. May I extend 15 seconds. Mr. Conklin, I'm happy to let you extend to read the request number three. I don't see that there's any relation between what just came right before to request number three. So I'm just asking that you please make sure that you keep them in line with what your request is. So if you want to go ahead and read the request, it's fine. What I did was to get it down to three minutes. I cropped. I know. I see you're trying. Thank you. The mountain money is basically over 350. Just read the request if you want to finish the request, I ask you, Mr. Conklin. Thank you. I wish to extend my request. The mountain of money that's reported in the CAFR every year is basically over $350 million. If gold is the, I guess you would say the biblical money, the dollar is losing 53.6% of its purchasing power against gold. And that's what this comment is for. You have in that mountain of money $112.7 million in U.S. treasuries. Nobody is buying them. Our own government is buying them back. Mr. Conklin, do you want to read the request into the record to conclude, please? Plantation, my request number three, divest the $112.7 million in U.S. treasuries. With those proceeds, completely fund the $74 million unfunded, chronically endangers, that's federal law, the general employee-defined benefit pension fund, establish a general employee's defined contribution pension fund with each general employee fully funded, and terminate the general employee's defined benefit fund. Thank you for allowing me to extend my remarks. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. Seeing no other request to speak from the council chamber, I'll just make a public request. If there's anybody else from the council chamber that hasn't filled out the form, please advise us now. Otherwise, seeing no other requests from the council chambers, public requests of the council regarding municipal affairs are now closed. We now move to the consent agenda. The consent agenda consists of items 1 through 11 and may be approved with one motion. I see that number three was crossed out on the newest agenda. Is that correct, Mrs. Beggarow? Okay. So it's 1 through 11, not including number three. I'd like to pull number two. And I also have, from the public, numbers 10 and 11 to be pulled. I'd like to pull four and five. And what's the public? 11 and what? 10 and 11. And I would like to pull six. So that, if I'm counting correct, that leaves one, seven, eight, and nine. Do we have a motion? Go ahead. So moved. Do we have a second? Second. We have a first and a second for one, seven, eight, and nine. Seeing no further discussion on those items, Ms. Beggarow, please call the roll. Council Member Andrew? Yes. Council Member Fadgen? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Thank you. So, number two is the official city holiday calendar. And, Mr. Nunamaker, I don't know if you want to take the question. It's just in regards to the floating day. So, this was a question that, you know, I previously asked and you've responded to. I just want to make sure that it's clear on the record is that currently we have one floating day which allows our city employees to take that as they see fit beyond our official city holidays. Yes, sir. And one of the concerns that I raised and I want to raise here is that there are certain holidays that are not included as official city holidays in a lot of different religions. And some of those holidays are particularly two-day holidays. Either they begin one day and end late another day or they are two full holidays. And so, I just want a clarification in terms of that our city's position is that there's one floating holiday, but if there's a situation where there's somebody who is in need of taking that additional day for their observance, that that's something they can come to their immediate supervisor or come to the HR as necessary. Oh, yes, sir. We would work with them if they want to take a vacation day in tandem with the personal day. That's not a problem. And if there was any issue, they could communicate with HR or administration. Very good. I just wanted to make sure that was clear so that, you know, if our city employees have any question about their ability to observe a holiday that's not on our city holiday list, that they are welcome to come to HR as necessary. Sure. Happy to clarify. Very good. Thank you. Motion to approve item two. Second. Motion's been moved. Motion's been made and seconded. Seeing no further discussion. Ms. Beggaro, please call the roll. Council Member Andrew? Yes. Council Member Fadgen? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Thank you. Next up, Council Member Fadgen, four and five. Thank you. Kind of, they kind of go hand in hand with each other where my question is going to go. So, the item four, the professional engineering services, contract $59,550 for the Water Hill Water Main Interconnect, of which $16,000 of it, 27% of the contract is an hourly not to exceed, and the other remaining, the balance is lump sum. So, starting with the lump sum, is that, is there progress billings with the lump sum? Is it billed at the beginning of each task? Or is it billed upon acceptance of the tasks that they're, because it's made up of several items that make up the, um... Oh, Danny. I was looking for Danny. I'm sorry, could you repeat the question? I'm asking, regarding the lump sum, um, each of these tasks for the lump sums. For instance, 1.2 preliminary engineering design has a lump sum of $9,310.52. So, I'm asking, how is that billed and, um, and paid, is it paid when they, um, uh, commenced the, that task item of the contract? Is it paid at the completion of it, or is there a progress billing of it? There's generally a progress, Danny Polio, Utilities Director, there's generally a progress, a progressive billing for it. There's a permitting, a component, they'll break it out as to each, this is part of our, one of our CCNA, I'm sorry, one of our, uh, continuing contract, uh, engineers. So, what they'll do, we'll get a cost of the project, a cost estimate, we get our cost before it's, uh, designed what it's going to be, and then they'll bill accordingly upon deliverables. Well, I guess, when I'm, to me, like, we have the estimate here, they have the preliminary engineering design, $9,310, so when they're working on that task, is there going to be a progress billing to that? Yes, generally there is, because we'll go with a 60% plan, we'll go to a 90% plan, and then we'll go to a permitting set. Is that carried out over the, for all of the tasks, the lump sum tasks? Yes. Okay. Um. They just don't bill a flat rate up front. What do they do, they provide an AIA, or some kind of? There's a breakdown that go with the contracts, and it's with all of our contracts that we have for engineering, and there's a breakdown that comes in. It's not an AIA that they utilize, it's a, it's a deliverable, and they bill on the hours that were approved under the continuing contract. Correct. But it wouldn't be fully paid, and it wouldn't be fully, uh, um, invoiced until they actually complete that task? Correct. Okay. We don't pay for anything up front. And then, this procedure that you're describing, is the same procedure for every lump sum task in here? Yes. Okay. And then the construction services, once it starts, is the same fashion, it continues the same way. And it's a documented procedure? Yes, sir. Okay. Um, now regarding the hourly not to exceed, how, is it a similar process? How are they, um, if they come in under the, um, the, the, um, the amount defined in the contract, we're going to pay less? Absolutely. Okay. If it doesn't take as long. So what are they, describe the process of what we're going to receive, how are we monitoring it? Um, so during, the whole process works, when we get the amount approved, there's generally a do not to exceed on the design end, should we run into additional problems. So we know what our total cap for the project will be. The same goes with the construction, even if we end up during construction, as you know, um, you will see potential problems come up when you're building at the plants or anything like that, where there may be unknowns and change orders are required, which would come out of the contingency. The engineers, this is a basically cut and dry project that when you're doing the water mains and stuff, when you're doing the buildings and the water plants and things of that nature, they're. I'm really trying to get at the, um, the control that we're going to have to monitor the, what's coming in and what we're paying for each of these tasks. They are vetted through our first, the project manager reviews it. We have a heavy hand within our own project management on the utilities projects, um, uh, the speaking strictly to utilities. I understand. So we have a full time project manager that oversees the project. We have several inspectors until things are done. They, it's not checked off and it's not approved or paid for. We're not getting an estimate for like a, a task that's an hourly not to exceed because it's already defined in this, what we're going to be approving or voting to approve. We're going to monitor it, but we're going to monitor it, that they're not going to go over those tasks and that there's a defined documented control procedure to make sure. That we have absolutely. There's a three part process. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but there's a, there's a several part, several parts to this entire process. You start with the project manager, the field guys are verifying what work is done. Now I'm, I'm, I'm painting a broad brush here between design and construction. So you have the field technicians or the inspectors that verify the work being done. You have the project manager verifying that the work is, is meeting the contract requirements. It is vetted by our procurement section before it is sent for any draws or drawn down on the approved POs. It is then sent to finance, finance reviews it to verify that the funds are in the account to pay that. So there is a multi, there, there's many, many checkpoints within the process. And it's a documented procedure. We have a procedure manual of that. Whoever's in charge of it is following at the. Yes, sir. And then once you go into the construction component of it, um, not only do we have that same process with the field inspectors, verifying the work, the project manager doing a walkthrough to verify X amount of feet of pipe has been installed, X amount of fittings, hydrants, et cetera. That is all verified. And then we get a signed letter, uh, from the engineer of record, verifying that that work has been done and it, it meets the contract requirements. And then it goes through the whole back to our procurement process, back to the finance process. There's, there's a lot of oversight within the projects. I wanted to get a sense of the process. Okay. And the oversight of it. Um, okay. That's all I have for item four. So a motion to approve. Uh, one, one last thing, and thank you for the approval, but one last thing, there's a hundred and eighty one thousand dollar grant associated with this. So there will be several other layers of, of oversight during the payment process. Okay. And requirements. All right. Actually. Yeah. Before we take the motion, council member Andreyu. That was part of my question, Mr. Polio. So is this being funded by the grant or. I think, and that was supposed to be a comma, not a period. Uh, it's a hundred and eighty one thousand dollar grant. Yes. So is this funded by the grant or is this funded by general fund? So I think there's, there's, there's no general fund associated with this. This is funded through the utilities enterprise fund. The total project is about four hundred and fifty thousand, four hundred and forty eight thousand. Um, I, I believe it's four hundred and forty eight thousand for the entire project. That being said, a hundred and eighty one of that will go towards the construction component. So this is going to be a hybrid, the fifty nine thousand, some will come from enterprise and some will come from the grant. Yes, but we don't have the grant money yet in hand, but we have the funding within our budget. It's a budgeted project to do the hundred and eighty one thousand dollars was a bonus. I can't specifically tell you right now, dollar for dollar, how much is going to come from grant and how much is going to come from the project. We budgeted is last year. And with the help of, uh, uh, Carol and Lisa, we, we, I don't want to call it a hail Mary, but at the last minute we were able to get one hundred and eighty one thousand dollars for it. So I can't give you this, the exact percentages of what's going to come from what the bottom line is a hundred and eighty one thousand is going to come out of the four hundred and forty eight thousand dollar project that we don't have to pay for, or we're getting additional funding for. So the four four three is probably for Miss Otaniano, the four four three funding structure. That's the enterprise fund. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Thank you. And this was a budgeted project. It's, it's part of a much bigger picture already. And I'll probably stop talking now because I could stay here all night with y'all if you want to. Thank you. I'll second the motion to approve. Thank you. So, um, the, the motion is made by council member Fadgen. The motion has been seconded by council member Andreu seeing no further discussion. Ms. Beggaro, please call the roll. Council member Andreu. Yes. Council member Fadgen. Yes. Council member Horland. Yes. Council member Anderson. Yes. Council member Einstein. Yes. Thank you. Item number five. Council member Fadgen. Thank you. Um, looking at the estimated staffing per task. So this, this contract doesn't really say if it's lump sum or hourly, not to exceed. So if they come in, they break it out by hours for the $94,000. So if they come in under those hours, it's going to be less. Yes. Good evening. Samira Shalan, city engineer. Yes. The answer is yes. And just to follow up on what Danny said, we follow similar process, but with more standardized process in engineering. We use the AIA standardized form for invoicing, plus an engineer of record progress report signed and sealed by the engineer of record on every project that engineering managing. So not a, not the same process, but a similar process, um, a, a documented procedure control of the whole process to make sure that they're not going over their various tasks. Correct. And over the contract price. Correct. In fact, what they're doing to make sure that, uh, they're on, on point and, um, creating the most efficiencies possible for them so that possibly they can come in under, under budget. How often when you have a, um, like a service like this, do they come under budget or they always work at the contract price? Rarely, because we negotiated the maximum prior to bringing the item to your attention. For example, these estimated hours, that's not the first run of the proposal. We had, uh, obtained proposal before from the engineer and we negotiated these hours. We look at item by item. And we, if we feel that the engineer overestimated these hours, we negotiate before we bring it to your attention. So they, they have a motivation to be efficient. Correct. To keep us happy. Um, all right. Thank you. Motion to approve. So before we accept the motion, um, Councilmember Andreu. I don't know if this is for you or for Ms. O'Toole, but what is the estimated date of completion? So on the proposal that you have tonight, uh, the consultant estimated 120 days for design, uh, four months of the design. Then I estimate two months of two to three months of bidding and award, and then three months of construction, which takes us to June, July. If weather permit, we will open the bridges back to, uh, public, which I personally excited because I use the park and, uh, I'm looking forward to open the bridges and enjoy the facility. Okay. Thank you. That's a personal motivation for me to, to progress this project. I think a lot of people are, are motivated for the, to use the bridges again. Thank you. What? Councilmember Anderson, you're recognized. Hi. Hi. Educate me on this. We already have, whether you want to call them docks or piers or bridges, we have existing structures there. Are we allowed to reuse those plans? These what? Are we allowed to reuse and modify the plans from the past? Um, yes, but, uh. It's a freshwater lake. It's not like we have tidal stuff and saltwater and corrosion. It's a freshwater pond, essentially. One more time. The question, the plans? Plans, the design from the last time. Why don't we reuse them and modify them? Because Florida Building Code has a, you know, had evolved through times. And, um, as the structural engineers reanalyze the superstructure or the piles or the decking of the piers, they have to use the most recent Florida, uh, um, building code. But they couldn't just modify the existing plan? Yes, they can. To upgrade to the building? That's the price of modifying. I cannot believe it is almost a hundred thousand dollars to, to design a freshwater pier. It is a specialized structural engineer that requires calculations and, uh, producing of plans. Plus, if you, uh, look at the schedule of hours and tasks, it's survey, it's design, and it's different stages. Like Danny had said, we use, uh, we use the 60%, 90%, and then permitting and bidding plans, and then construction services. Again, this is something beyond the capacity of the in-house engineering services, since it is a specialized structural, uh, structure. Yes, um, it's also, um, it's also, I noticed it falls under traffic transportation engineering. Correct. Is that just the most logical one? Because it's not traffic or transportation. The most logical and the most, uh, the available contract, uh, purchasing department is in the process of awarding, uh, the new contracts. So, our civil contracts had expired, and the traffic contracts, uh, is still available for us. The traffic engineer is very knowledgeable that we are utilizing for this task, very knowledgeable in bridges. We used him for Central Park bridges, and we're using him on these bridges. So, yes, it is the most logical and efficient contract to be utilized for this task. Stay nearby. I want to ask Charles something. Sorry, sorry, but I need a minute on this. This just, Charles, is, are we able to bid this differently, differently, where we put out what we want, and they can propose that they'll do the entire project, completed, design, and build what we want if we want a 500-foot bridge across this lake? What would you do it for? And they all, then we open up, and we can assess, do it the other way around. Rather than tell us how much you'll charge us per hour, of course, they're going to put pad it as much as they can. Uh, sure. There are a few different procurement models that can be utilized. Um, a design build is what you're speaking to, where you hire a team, an engineer, and a GC. They come together, and they design and build a project to, um, the desired city specifications. Um, that is a procurement model. Um, generally, though, um, those types of procurement models are for your higher-cost projects, and I'm going to, yeah, your $1 million, and I'm going to say $1 million and up. I've managed some. Yeah, so, but, yes, there are peculiar models. But if you don't have it on smaller things, you can't? I'm not going to say that you can't, because you obviously can, but when we've done smaller projects in the design and build, it has been my experience. They have not been very successful. I just, I'm floored. It's $100,000 just for the engineer to build a freshwater dock, and they haven't, it's not even talking about building it. That's just designing it. All right, I, I've used my time. That's it. Thank you. By the way, it's not a, nothing to you. No, no, no, I just want to add one. It's my frustration with, I just want to add, we also, we also compared the price and the cost of design of this project to the other project, which is the bridges we're rehabilitating on Central Park Place, and it is very compatible. The total linear footage of these two bridges are triple the amount of Central Park, but the fee in front of you is almost the same fee for the Central Park. So, I, as the city engineer, I feel comfortable with the proposal to present it to you as it is presented today. Isn't that automobile bridge and pedestrian bridge at Central Park? No, the component that we're replacing on the Central Park is the pedestrian portion of the bridge. So, it's kind of similar approach, but again, the linear footage of the bridge of this party, of these two bridges are triple the amount. So, I looked at that during the negotiation. Okay, thank you. No problem. Ms. Shailon, if you're going to stay there, because I'm going to have another question after we take this motion. Council Member Fadgen, do you want to make the motion now, please? Item 5 has been moved. Do we have a second? Second. It's been moved and seconded. Seeing no further discussion, Ms. Begrove, please call the roll. Council Member Andrew? Yes. Council Member Fadgen? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Ms. Shailon. Since you mentioned the Central Park bridges, and since I drive by those every single day, what's the status, if you can give one, please? We are between 60% and 90% design complete, so our intention is by the end of the year, we will put the bid to bid. The type of bridge is going to be an aluminum pedestrian bridge. It was coordinated among a few departments, so we have almost complete design plans ready to bid. Do we have other aluminum or aluminum bridges in Plantation? We have a few. The new River Canal Bridge on the Greenway, those are aluminum bridges. We did cost-benefit analysis of different material bridges, and the aluminum was selected as the most durable, cost-feasible at this point. If you would like me to bring this item to your attention with further details, I can work with administration and have a small presentation to your attention on that, or an email with a memo. I think an email would be fine. I am curious now that you're telling me what it is as to the sidewalls and the rest of it, because I think right now it's partly wood and concrete, and aluminum sounds very loud when you're riding your bike over that. There will be more detail. It's going to be coated aluminum to offset the heat, so there was some more details than just aluminum bridge. Very good. I will write a memo to your attention with some details on that item. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Sorry to put you on the spot, but you mentioned it, so I thought I'd follow up. Thank you very much. Councilmember Andreo, item 6. Thank you, President Reinstein. I'll preface this. Mr. Spencer, I'm no athlete, so bear with me. But the cushioned flooring, so it looks like that is less expensive than doing the maple hardwood, but the current flooring that we have at Central Park isn't that hardwood? Yeah, I'm going to have to defer. I'm not familiar with what the flooring is at Central Park, so I'm going to have to defer that to Director O'Toole. I was told by Mr. Noonamaker that maybe athletes prefer the cushioned flooring. It's not something that I'm familiar with, or I don't know if I've ever even seen a cushioned basketball flooring. I have a show-and-tell sample of it if you'd like to. You came prepared. Thank you. So is it like faux hardwood on the top, and then it's cushioned? I think it's more of a vinyl with the cushion underneath. We looked at several options. Hardwood was one. That would be great if we only hosted basketball or volleyball games. However, if you think we have summer camp, we have spills, we have elections, we have health fairs, the hardwood just does not do well with moisture and spills, things of that nature. This flooring, Davy did install it about five years ago. When we started researching this, we did go to see Davy's floor about a week and a half, two weeks ago. They've loved it. They host similar activities as we do as far as the health fairs and everything else. So we thought this was the best way to go for all of the different activities that we host in the gymnasium. And the current floor is not hardwood, it's something called granwood, and I learned a little bit. This was invented in the 1909, I want to say. And it's a combination of concrete, sawdust, I mean, it's very hard. Yes. Yes. And I am a former college basketball player, and I can say it's terrible. So that's where we're at. It did seem, though, that the lifespan on this is not as long. So when I was looking at the backup material, it said like maybe 15 years versus hardwood floors that have like 40 to 50. So is this something we're going to be looking at? I mean, I probably won't be here in 15 years, but we'll be looking at. Well, one of the things also with this is it's less maintenance. I know with hardwood and what we're experiencing now, we have to strip it, wax it, seal it every couple of months. This does not require that. It just requires a dust mop, occasionally a wet mop. I can't speak to the lifespan of it. I know Davies is just five or six years old. It has held up very well, so I can't really speak to the longevity. Warranty, not 15 lifetime. Correct. The warranty is 15 years. But most give 40 to 50 if you go with, you know, like a maple hardwood. You get a much longer life out of that. But okay, if this is, it sounds like you've done your due diligence and this is what you're recommending. Yes, I am. But I just worry about the quality. Understood. And if we still can, my real question is can we still host events of a high caliber? So for instance, if we can get the Orange Bowl committee back in plantation, can we still do that level of basketball tournament? Or is this going to be perceived as less than? Well, that's a tennis tournament. But if there's a comparable basketball, I don't know if we've ever hosted the basketball. We haven't. Hence my question. Okay, that's your question. I'm trying to get the Orange Bowl back. I'm sure it would. It's built for basketball and volleyball specifically. And again, just with all of the other host of activities that we have in the gym, a hardwood would probably not last for us. Okay. All right. Motion to approve. Before we take the motion, thank you. Council Member Anderson, you're recognized. So I was a little bit of an athlete, but not a basketball player. Will the basketball bounce on this comparably to a maple or whatever we have now? When we went to Davie, they actually let us play and shoot and bounce the balls, and it was perfectly fine. And the other important question, I know you said it before, what was your nickname in college? Trish the Swish. What was it? Trish the Swish. Trish the Swish. Yes. That was important. Now that that is on the record. Council Member Andrea, would you like to make the motion now? Motion to approve. Motion's been made. Do we have a second? Second. Motion's been moved and seconded. Seeing no further comments or discussion, Ms. Beggarro, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Fadgen. Yes. Council Member Horland. Yes. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Reinstein. Yes. Thank you. Mr. Conklin, you have asked to speak on items 10 and 11. Can you take them together, or would you like to take them separate? Dennis Conklin, 458, 1 Northwest 6th Court. I can take them both. Thank you. For item 10, that deals with the Gateway 7, and it's the expense accounts. It only had one week listed this week. And you're still hitting almost $1,000 for water and wastewater in this district in the east. And I thought I would just look at the Midtown, and I don't recall ever seeing them being charged for water and wastewater. And particularly this item 11, it didn't have it, and I wanted to address in item 11 for Midtown the freebie, because it was $33,183.12. And I'm not sure, is that for the week? Is that for a month? Is that for a quarter? Is that for a year? Or it didn't specify what I could get from the backup. And in addition to these electric cars, which I've gone crazy trying to get you not to get yourselves involved with it for the expense, you also have a website page on the city page, website, excuse me. It has two links, there's four drop-down menus, and one of those also has another link, and then you've created an app for this thing. I mean, all this stuff adds up to money. And that's basically my question. What is this particular, rather expensive, one-week posting of a cost? Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. Mr. Nunamaker, are you able to respond, or do you have somebody that can respond regarding the, I think there's two questions, the water bill and the freebie question? Well, the water bill, that's for irrigation purposes. And I would just point out that it's important that we distinguish between the CRA and the gateway. The gateway carries operational expenses moving forward. So right now, we have an expansive program, a substantive landscaping program we're developing for the entire gateway that's being funded by the CRA, because that'll be a one-time expense, we'll implement it, but then the gateway needs to remain to be able to carry that forward in perpetuity. As far as freebie goes, that's a monthly expense. The app is included in that rollout. That is not something we paid separately for. And I would just remind Council that the sweetness of that service is we can turn it up, turn it down, turn it off at our leisure, compared to the trolley system you all had previously, which was very onerous, involved other infrastructure we had to put in. And we're also going to be leveraging some surtax dollars to expand that service in the near future, particularly for some of our senior residents. When does freebie come before us next? What do you think, Carol? Is that what you're referring to for the expansion? Yes. Yeah, as soon as we can. I think right now we want to get feedback, which I don't believe we have yet, on our surtax request. So once we have that, we'll be back before you all to turn up the volume. Very good. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. So was that for each week? No, it was a month. Month. Thank you. It's okay. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. I yield back. Item number 12, legislative item. No, we didn't vote on it. I was ready to move. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. Item 10, do we have a motion? So moved. Motion to approve. Everybody would like to approve that. Council Member Fadgen made the motion, and Council Member Horland seconded for number 10. Seeing no further discussion, Ms. Becker on item 10, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Fadgen. Yes. Council Member Horland. Yes. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Reinstein. Yes. Thank you. Item number 11, do we have a motion to approve. Council Member Anderson made the motion. Do we have a second? Second. Council Member Fadgen seconded. Item 11, seeing no further discussion, please call the roll. Council Member Andreu. Yes. Council Member Fadgen. Yes. Council Member Horland. Yes. Council Member Anderson. Yes. Council Member Reinstein. Yes. Thank you. Let's get to the legislative item, please. Item 12, water and wastewater capacity charge increase. Do we have a presentation from the city, or how would you like to present this? Council Member Fadgen. I was just going to do a quick brief introduction to our consultant and just give a quick overview of our process here, and then turn it over to him, and I can assure you it's probably no more than a five or ten minute presentation. It's not a planning and zoning presentation. So it's utilities, we'll get in, we'll get it done. What was that? Wow. Look at that. He's not even listening. Keep going. Keep going. He's busy. It's all good, Dan. Oh, wait. Oh, sabotage. See, because you said that, he took it. I shouldn't have said it. He just took it right off. He heard me over there. Delete. Acapella. You can do it. Good evening, Council, Council President, Council Members. Mayor and Attorney Ezraal. Tonight, we have a short presentation regarding capacity charges. Utilities working along with administration had hired our consultant gov rates to evaluate our capacity charges and perform an analysis of our current charge rates and where we are with everyone else. This does not impact residential or commercial consumption rates. I want to be clear about that. This is only for capacity charges. Capacity charges rate. Capacity charge rates only impact growth associated activities such as new construction and potentially any change of use. You will see where plantation falls in regards to other cities and note that many of these cities are currently either planning to or performing their own analyses of not only rates but their capacity charges and all of their different fees and charges. These increases are needed in order to keep up with the increasing costs associated with providing water and sewer service to our residents and customers now and in the future. This includes R&R costs, chemical and electrical increases, infrastructure and plant upgrades, etc., for the life of the property. Our recommendation is to adopt these proposed increases, which ultimately helps us keep the water and sewer utility rates from increasing even higher, as many other municipalities have been forced to do, as we see in the news on a regular basis. Our current rate for capacity charges are $4,291 per ERC. That breakdown is $2,349 for water and $1,942 for sewer. The proposed rate is $5,650, which will increase it to $2,895 for water and $2,755 for sewer. With that, I'll turn it over to our consultant, Brian Mance, which many of you have already seen presentations from, and I'll be available or will be available for any questions. Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, good evening, members of the council, public and staff. My name is Brian Mance from GovRates, and Danny pretty much summarized the presentation, so I'm going to be just as brief as possible. These capacity charges are often known in the industry as impact fees. They support a policy of growth, paying for growth. And as Danny mentioned, that's very key, that these are not charges that are paid by your monthly customers or your residents. They are typically paid for by a developer, and they shift their recovery to growth. So they do help to the extent that the city does collect them. They help to reduce the need for monthly user rates. They're very common in the utility industry, and they're used to pay for growth-related capital projects or growth-related debt service. And there are certainly a lot of laws where they have to be proportionate to the benefit received. They are, you know, we went through a standard procedure to calculate them, but as Danny mentioned, this is a summary of the changes. It's a fairly modest increase, and the city's costs of capacity have increased since the last review. Here we see where the city stands, the existing capacity charges are compared to the proposed. It's relatively in the same area competitively. Many of the utilities, as Danny mentioned, a lot of these utilities have not updated their fees for many years. I am seeing a trend throughout Florida where a lot of utilities are – even municipalities that are built out, I'm seeing that they're wanting to right-size their capacity fees to not, quote, leave any money on the table. And just, you know, overall, within the state of Florida, I consider the city's fees to be kind of middle of the road. To give you some perspective, the city of Groveland, in a different part of Florida, has combined water and wastewater capacity charges of $13,920. What we're seeing is that a lot of the utilities that are having to build water treatment capacity or wastewater treatment capacity, they're finding that the cost of that capacity, especially on the wastewater side, has gone up tremendously over the past – just over the past few years. But a comparison – and this – I'm very – I frequently mention this when talking about user rates. It's not a report card on how well a utility is performing, because there are just so many different reasons why capacity charges differ among utilities. Do you treat – do you have a brackish water source or a freshwater source? Do you have – are you treating saltwater, which is obviously the more salt in the water, the more expensive the treatment process? Do you have – have you had a lot of historical grant funding? Is your service area really spread out, so you've got a lot more land over which the water and sewer has to travel? Just a lot of different reasons – administrative policies – to charge a fee lower than what can be justified. There are just so many different reasons why these fees differ among utilities. And it's just – so it's – again, it's not – it's a – it's a discussion point, but it's not a report card. So our recommendations – and again, hopefully this was brief enough – is to adopt the proposed water and wastewater capacity charges. Again, they support a policy of growth, paying for growth. They're right-sized based on the most recent local data. They do help reduce the need for future user rate adjustments. They help reduce the need to finance capital improvements, so they can help lower your interest and issuance costs. And like I said, they can be used for – to pay for expansion-related debt, allowing user rates – user rate revenues to be used for other purposes. And of course, the recommendation is whenever your capital plans, costs, or funding sources change significantly, it's good to right-size these fees. And that's it. Before we – can you just go back to the other cities and what those rates are? Okay, that's – I want to point something out about this particular graph here. Oh, I think you might have to point that way. Yeah. That way. Okay. I want you to take a look at this scale. You're going to see some of the other – you see the smaller wastewater investment. Some of these municipalities don't have wastewater treatment plants. They're paying other municipalities or the county to treat their sewer. Take a look at the water end of it. Many of these municipalities do not have the nanofiltration technology that plantation has. With that being said, there's going to be a scramble – and it's going on now – of people looking for funding sources to build nano or RO water treatment plants. This scale that you'll see – I don't have a crystal ball, but I can almost guarantee it's going to look much different in the – within the next few years as this whole PFAS requirements – 2030, I want to say, I think that's the deadline. Everybody's scrambling to get additional funding right now. You're going to see this is going to be a much different graph in the next few years, I would think. Thank you very much. Councilmember Anderson, you have a question. Danny, you – you literally – I wrote it down waiting. I don't want to forget. You just answered what – mainly what I was going to talk about. Because I know plantation for so many years has had the nanofiltration, which I assume is more costly than a lot of our peers across that graph, which would put us over here. So – and I'm fine with the raise, by the way. But – so that's – that's – you answered that. That many of these that are on the left of us are going to move much higher because they're going to have to switch over to this. Some have mixed technologies. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. There are some nano and RO plants that are out there, but they have combined production methods that they're using. I was in a meeting yesterday, and there was a conversation with another smaller city, a little smaller than us. Their price tag – they're doing design right now for their nano – single plant, $100 million. And the – the nano filtration, it's not just PFAS. It also helps with microplastics, doesn't it? Some. Yes. The membrane technology is ever-changing. So you're – you're constantly seeing improvements. That is not a requirement that we test for currently. What will it look like in the future? I don't know. But it – it basically strips your water down to – if you can treat wastewater and turn it into drinking water or seawater, microplastics would come from a desal plant, desalination plant. So I would – I would say yes, but I don't have the scientific data to back that up. Okay. And the – Only on microplastics. Right. The PFAS, you do have that data, though. Yes. Yes. The exhibit, though, which – not the presentation. The exhibit and the backup had existing proposed monthly water and wastewater user rates. And I was confused because it said proposed 23, proposed 24, proposed 25. Why would there be proposed rates when that's in the past? In your backup where – I'm sorry, could you – where – where – In the backup, Exhibit 1. I don't have the full package with me. Yeah. The user rates – this is – Exhibit 1, Plantation Utility Rate Index. Oh, the utility – all fees are within that index. Are utility rates, are all rates associated with it, are in that single document. It's in the – it's in the index. So I just scroll further to get to this part. Yes, if you scroll through – But why – so – but it still made me stop – that's what really confused me because the beginning of the document was about residential rates, and you're talking about impact fees. Yes, it's a multi-page document. We probably – It did confuse the read, and then I realized, calm down, this is about impact fees, and I agree with it. Yeah, it's further down within that index. But I am – I was confused if the document does have proposed for 23, 24, 25. It's all proposed. It's just because this was produced a while ago? Yes, sir, it was from the prior rates done, and we do those on a five-year basis. Right. Got it. So ignore those pages. It's just – nothing to be alarmed here. Just – Well, never ignore them. I mean, that's good information that's on those pages. Those are the ones we bring back to you every five years to look at. Well, I'm surprised there's like a 40 or 50 percent raise in only like five years, so that's for another day when we get to residential rates. So the last rate increase we did – now we're talking user rates. We're not talking capacity charges. It was a six-year, six-percent increase on an annual basis. A sister city just did a 28 percent single-year increase with five percent increases until further notice. We lay out our plan when we do this, and govrates was part of our last rate study that we did. A lot of work goes into it, and what you want to do is you do want to spread your increases out. Our costs have gone up significantly more than that. As you all know, you see the POs we get approved. So by taking it in smaller allotments, it's a much less impact on our residents and our end user. Okay. So that document was – because it was embedded – it was all the rates. Yes. This was about impact only, and you talked about it, and I'm good. Nothing else. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you for the presentation. I don't see any further questions from the dais. I do have some from the public, but do we have a motion? Motion to approve. Second. Second. It's been moved and seconded. I see Mr. Conklin wishes to speak on the item. This is 12? Not on 12. Just so you know, Mr. Conklin, you did previously mark 12, and I don't want to make sure – I don't want to leave you hanging on that one. Okay. No worries. Thank you very much. And seeing nobody further from the public, I see some esteemed developers that don't wish to comment on it, which is fine, just making sure. Ms. Beggarrow, please call the roll. Council Member Andrew? Yes. Council Member Fadgen? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Thank you. We're now up to our – thank you very much. We're now up to our quasi-judicial proceedings. Mr. City Attorney, will you please read the proceeding rules? Yes, sir. The City Clerk will swear in all witnesses before speaking. Please state your name and whether you have been administered an oath. Any speaker may be cross-examined. If you refuse to be cross-examined, your testimony may not be considered. Cross-examination shall be conducted in a courteous manner. The material in the City Clerk's agenda packet will be made a part of the record. City staff will make the first presentation, followed by presentations from the applicant, any affected parties, and the public. The elected officials may set reasonable time limits for speakers. The hearing will then be closed and the matter decided. The City Council's decision will be delineated in its motion and rendered in writing by way of a development order, resolution, or ordinance, evidencing its decision. The City Council may also decide to continue the matter to a designated time to allow for additional research or review. Thank you very much. I'll now ask anybody who wishes to be sworn in, wishes to speak on any of the quasi-judicial items, 13, 14, or 15. Please rise. And City Clerk, if you'll swear on the witnesses. Rise, raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? First up, we have item 13, PP25-0017. Mr. Holmes, are these being presented together? Yes. Okay, so we have items 13, 14, and 15 that will be presented together. They will be taken separately for voting purposes. I do have three people that wish to speak on either one, two, or all three of the items. I'll ask that when, after the presentations, and when individuals are all, when they are called up to speak, if you can combine your comments regarding all three of the items, since they're being presented together. Thank you very much. Mr. Holmes, the floor is yours. Okay. All right. Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the Council. For the record, Dan Holmes, Planning, Zoning, Economic Development Director. The item before you is Application PP25-0011. It is a consideration of a request for site plan elevation and landscape plan approval to construct an eight-story multifamily residential development with 384 residential units. It's also a conditional use approval to allow a multifamily residential development within the B7Q commercial plan commercial zoning district. And then finally, there are six zoning waivers and one landscape waiver from Chapter 27 of the City Code as part of the proposed request. So what you see before you is the City's general location map. So the property in question is located along Peters Road. The address is 8151 through 8221 Peters Road. So it's roughly located there almost midway between South Pine Island Road and South University Drive. The owner of the site is the Plantation Crossroads 1 LLC and the Plantation Crossroads 2 LLC. The agent for the request is Margo Utter. The size of the property is 24.28 gross acres. The underlying zoning is currently OPP. And I say currently because there is, you may recall, an associated land use and also rezoning matter that came before you on first reading. That matter is going to come before you at the November 19th meeting for final approval. So currently, the current zoning is OPP. It will need to be rezoned to the B7Q plan commercial district. As well, you'll see under the land use there, the current designation is Office Park. And it will need to be rezoned to a future Office Park and Medium Residential 16 within the dashed line. So tonight's approval will need to be contingent upon the approval of that item that will come before you on the November 19th agenda. On the site now, there are two existing office buildings with surface parking and with regard to the adjacent zoning districts. To the north of the proposed site is OPP, which is the Office Park District. To the south is Peters Road. And there's also several zoning districts. To the south is PRD-21Q, the NPM zoning district, and also another B7Q zoning district. To the east is Office Park. And to the west is also Office Park zoning district. This is an aerial photo of the site. You can see the site highlighted there in blue. The area is characterized again on the north. There are office buildings within the Crossroads Office Park. To the east there's the La Quinta Hotel that's also located within the Crossroads Office Park. And there's also to the east the Amly Multifamily Residential Development. To the south, again, Peters Road and then the Cornerstone Office Park. There's also the Clever Oaks Montessori Daycare Plantation Colony, which is a multifamily residential. The Temple Colomy, which is a house of worship. And there's also a multifamily residential known as the Ellsworth. And then to the west is the Royal Palm Office Park. You'll see in purple there a public notification boundary for the applications that are before you. The required notification boundary was a 500-foot boundary line that you see there. And within that, there were 22 notices that were mailed to surrounding property owners. Again, what we're looking at tonight is the applicants requesting site plan approval, elevation plan approvals, landscape plan approval for the eight-story multifamily residential development with 384 units. There's also, again, the conditional use approval to allow the multifamily within the B7Q. And there are six zoning waivers and one landscape waiver. This slide kind of shows an aerial photo of the site and kind of shows the proposed site plan kind of laid out over the aerial photo there. This kind of gives you just some overall how the proposed development will sit on the site and just prospectively will fit in with the surrounding development on the site. This is also, you can see the aerial photo in the background there. But this is the colored site plan rendering. You see off to the right side of the slide there in yellow is where the proposed residential units will be located within the development. In orange, the applicant has highlighted some of the amenities with the fitness spa. And there's a co-work area there and amenity leasing area. You also see some of the other amenities on site, a little half-basketball court here. There's a dog park. There's a little amenity area that's located here. And there's the proposed pool that is located here. And this is just a little entryway into the parcel where you would enter into the main entry into the proposed development. And you'll see off to the west here, you'll see some additional parking area that is being redesigned based upon the proposed development. So as indicated, there is a conditional use component to this which proposes to establish a B7Q district. The B7Q district is part of the city's planned commercial development district. As part of that, under Section 2792, there are some review criteria that have to be met in order to be consistent with the planned commercial development district or the B7Q district in this case. One of the first criteria is provided in Section 2792A, which basically states that the proposed B7Q district must provide both an orderly and creative arrangement of all land uses with respect to each other and to the entire community. You just saw the proposed site plan. We believe that it does provide for an orderly and creative arrangement of uses on the site. And then also under Section 2792A, it also states that the applicant must ensure that the aesthetic qualities of the PCD district are met, as I'll get into a little later with the elevations and everything. The applicant does meet the city's class one material requirement. We think it is consistent with other development that's surrounding the proposed development. So we believe the applicant has met this criteria as well. Under Section 2792A6C, this section states that for B7Q district that the proposed development must be developed in harmony with adjacent development. If you look around, we kind of talked about some of the adjacent development that is around there. There's office park uses, there's hotel uses, there's some additional multi-family residential uses, house of worship, daycare. So we believe that the proposed use is consistent and in harmony with the adjacent uses. The applicant, we believe, has also demonstrated compliance with Section 2792A, F1, which states that the project is to be located with respect to arterials and major streets to provide direct access to said thoroughfares. Again, this development is right off of the Peters Road major arterial, so there's convenient access to Peters Road. And also in close proximity, Peters Road kind of feeds into the South Pine Island roadway and also the South University Drive. So we believe that the proposed development meets this criteria as well. The applicant must also demonstrate compliance with Section 2792A, F2. The PCD must be compatible with the surrounding area. The proposed development is located within the southern portion of the Midtown District. Midtown District does call for more urbanized uses in a mixed-use setting. So we believe it is consistent with the overall goals, objectives, and policies of the city's Midtown Master Plan. And finally, the applicant, we believe, has demonstrated compliance with Section 2792A8H, which states that there must be open space that generally is located on-site or in the immediate vicinity of the proposed development. As I showed on the previous colored site plan rendering, the applicant has provided some amenities, swimming pool, other walkways, and other areas that we believe are in compliance with this section of the PCD standards. Elevations. This is proposed elevation. What you see on the slide here is the proposed east elevation, which faces Peters Road. I know these are somewhat two-dimensional, so we've tried to provide some renderings that kind of give you a better feel for the proposed development. So these are renderings that kind of show, if you were driving along Peters Road, looking to the north, these are some of the proposed renderings that have been prepared from the south. Elevations on the east side, this is the side that would face the La Quinta Hotel and the internal access road. So this sort of shows what those elevations would be. Again, we've tried to show here, if you were standing at the La Quinta end, kind of looking to the west, this is what you would see here. So this rendering kind of provides a more 3-D sort of dimension view. Elevations to the rear. We're calling the rear the north elevation, which faces the office buildings. So this is the elevation of the residential portion. There's also the parking garage that would be visible from the rear from the north as well. So this shows you the parking garage. You do see some art, some sort of artistic mural elements that are being proposed to sort of enhance the garage area there. And then finally, the elevation facing the from the west, which is where the surface parking area is. Again, you can see the residential portion would be visible here. And then a portion of the garage would also be visible from this vantage point. Again, if you were standing in that parking area, this is the residential area that you would see. And then the garage here. And you can see another kind of picture here of some of the mural or artistic elements that they're proposing on the garage. Different vantage point there. Material schedule, we review this for consistency with the city's land development regulations. Again, as I indicated, they are providing the required class one materials. There's veneers, porcelain towel. There's some block details or what have you. And you see the proposed overall color scheme that's provided here as well. With regard to parking, the proposed development will have several different types of units, studio, one-bedroom, two-bedroom, three-bedroom units. The city's land development regulations has different standards for each of the units. 1.5 parking spaces for the studio, 1.75 for the one-bedroom, 2.25 for the two-bedroom, and 2.5 per unit for the three-bedroom. And then there's an overall requirement, again, of one parking space per every four units for guest parking. The total required under the code for that is 874 spaces. The applicant does get credit from the code for some discounts. The applicant is providing some bike storage within the proposed development. And based upon that, there is a 5 percent parking discount. And then because of their proximity to a transit stop, there's another 5 percent discount. So with the discounts for the bike storage and the transit, the proximity to transit, the new required parking is reduced from 874 spaces to 789 spaces. The applicant is proposing to provide 632 spaces, which is 157 spaces difference. And so that's one of the variances that they're requesting is a 20 percent parking variance as part of the request. And I just note at the bottom there, you'll see, as I indicated, there's garage parking that's proposed. 620 spaces are proposed within the garage. And then there are 12 surface parking spaces that are proposed as part of the proposed development as well. This kind of shows the landscape plan. So you can see that landscape has been provided throughout the site as required by the code. And I'll talk a bit about affordable housing. As I mentioned at the beginning, the applicant is requesting both a land use plan amendment and a rezoning. As part of the land use plan amendment, they would have to amend both the county's plan and the city's plan as part of the land use amendment process with the county. They were required to provide 10 percent affordable housing. That would equate to about 39 units to be dedicated at 120 percent of AMI, moderate income level housing, for a period of 30 years. They have provided or completed a draft declaration with the Broward County Planning Council. The applicant has indicated, however, that they are still sort of in discussions with the Broward County Planning Council to look at an alternative model that they want to look at in terms of providing some of the affordable housing. So two of the options that they look at would provide housing at 80 percent AMI and up to 120 percent moderate income with option two, however, what they're proposing. And I'll let the applicant speak to that with more specificity later on. It would be less than the 10 percent or less than 39 units that they are proposing. So I'll let them provide you the rationale and what they're looking at with regard to the affordable housing units. Floor plans. As indicated, there's a studio, one bedroom, two bedroom, three bedroom floor plans available. With regard to the studio, there is the studios will be provided at 487 square feet. The there are several one bedroom floor plans that are being proposed. Those square footages on these models range from about 612 to 786 square feet. There are several two bedroom models that are being proposed and they range from about 983 to 1125 square feet. And then finally, the three bedroom model, which are 52 units proposed, would be provided at 1394 square feet. Pedestrian connectivity, as this is in Midtown, one of the things that we're closely looking at now as these developments come in is pedestrian connectivity. And so as part of the proposed development, the proposed pedestrian amenities or paths that are being proposed, you see here in blue that the applicant is proposing basically around the development itself. There is an existing pathway here, pedestrian pathway, that would enable you to lead the development and kind of access the office buildings, the crossroads office park there. And there is existing here in green, some existing, you know, walkways or pathways along here. And then there's when AMLE was constructed, there was an existing pathway that's located here as well. You may recall when the applicant brought the item before you at the time that the land use and the rezoning, they had indicated that they were looking to try to provide some connectivity from this walking path into here. And so this is really what they're still trying to work on and what they have proposed as part of the site plan. There are some issues that they've encountered with regard to that. So with this portion of the path here, there are some conflicts in terms of some existing trees that exist here that will have to kind of be worked out. And then a portion is also on the adjacent property where here where the La Quinta Inn is located. As part of the site plan, you can see what this is, what they have proposed as part of the site plan. That's the walking path that you see there. And again, you see the tree locations that they've talked about that are in conflict at this time. Traffic study. Traffic study was required and reviewed by the engineering division. The traffic study indicates that 1,785 daily trips will be created as part of the proposed development. That kind of works out to 157 a.m. peak hour trips and 150 p.m. peak hour trips. This slide just kind of shows some of the amenities that are kind of already in place. There are bicycle lanes with a painted buffer area provided in both directions along Peters Road. There's sidewalks provided on both sides of Peters Road. Sidewalks are provided on both sides of Southwest Aida Terrace, which is located here. And then there are also sidewalks provided on both sides of the West Access driveway from Peters Road into the site there. You also see I talked about some of the bus stops that were located at bus bays here. So you see a bus bay located on the north side here and also on the south side. That's within proximity of the proposed development. And you see the traffic signals, which are located in the vicinity of the proposed development as well. Again, we look at mitigations and some of the traffic studies that the city has undertaken. As you know, the city did complete a multimodal transportation plan some time ago. That multimodal plan does provide for improvements to Southwest 6th Street and Southwest 78th Avenue. That proposal was presented by the Engineering Division to the council several months ago. And so the applicant has agreed in cost sharing in the amount of $158,630 for that project, which basically deals with lane repurposing along Southwest 6th Street and Southwest 78th Avenue and the construction of a roundabout, just to refresh your memory. The traffic study mitigation, it is recommended that once the residential project is completed, that the development team reach out to the Broward County Transportation Engineering Division to request a signal timing of two of the traffic signals. It's a traffic signal located here at University and a traffic signal located here along South Pine Island Road. This is very similar. We talked about, I think, when the Midtown development came, we kind of discussed about the coordination with Broward County and the timing of that. So it's something that has to be requested, and they have to determine that it's warranted to change the timing. And some additional traffic mitigation. Additionally, the applicant has agreed to the following potential improvements. Access control bicycle storage. I mentioned as part of the site plan that they have, they are getting a 5% reduction on the traffic. They are providing, as indicated, an access control bicycle storage. The facility will include a self-serving repair station and compressed air for the bicycle users. The project will provide covered bicycle parking for visitors as well. The project will include hallways and elevators that can accommodate bicycles as well, so for people transporting their bicycles to their units. And the Crossroads Residential will provide Broward County Transit information within the lobby in terms of the different routes that are accessible from the building. And then finally, they will provide information on the city's microtransit freebie service that we offer within Midtown. Zoning waivers. As indicated, the project has proposed that below the required parking, and so the applicant is requesting a zoning waiver, as indicated previously, with regard to the required parking to provide 632 spaces. This, again, just kind of as a reminder, just kind of shows you that there's bicycle storage here, which resulted in a 5% reduction and the proximity of the two bus stops again, which also contributed to the 5% reduction that they've already received. Zoning waiver number two is from the two-way drive-outs in the parking garage. As you know, our current requirements require that drive-outs be 25 feet. In the parking garage, they're requesting to reduce them down to 24-foot drive-outs. Zoning waiver request number three requires one loading zone for each 50 dwelling units. So under our current code, this would require eight loading zones. And so the applicant, you can see the loading zone area there in purple. So the applicant is requesting to provide two loading zones, one at 12 by 35 and one at 10 by 25. This is sort of the details from the site plan, and it shows the two loading zones that are proposed. Zoning waiver request number four requires minimum unit sizes for studios to be 600 square feet and for one-bedroom to be 750 square feet. The applicant is requesting to provide the 16 studios at 487 square feet and two of the one-bedroom units at 612 square feet. So they're requesting a waiver from that section of the code. And zoning waiver request number five requires a minimum 40-foot-wide strip of land unencumbered by the building. So along Pembroke Road, along Pines, Peters, Peters. I'm in the wrong city and the wrong roadways. Peters, Peters, okay. This kind of shows the areas here that they are going to be under with regard to that buffer, and so they're requesting a waiver from that 40-foot requirement. And then with regard to zoning waiver, request number six requires a setback to be 1.5 times the building height, which would be 128.25 feet from all property lines here. So as we said, this is within the Midtown District where we kind of move buildings closer to the property lines. So the applicant is requesting on the north side of the building to reduce that setback down to 12.7 feet. On the south side of the building to reduce the setback down to 33.4 feet. On the east side of the building to reduce it down to 22.3 feet. And finally, on the west side of the building to reduce it to 27 feet at the closest point. And finally, the landscape waiver deals with the landscape pedestrian zones from Section 27.255D2. The applicant is requesting along the north facade to reduce the landscape pedestrian zone from 30 feet to between 24.3 and 23.6 feet. On the east side from 30 feet to 22.9 to 5 feet. And on the west facade from 30 feet to 24.3 to 20.3. And on the south facade from 30 feet down to, at the smallest one, down to 20 feet. So it would vary on that side from 48.11 to 20 feet, 8 inches. Community meeting, there was a community meeting, as required by the code, that was held on August 11, 2020, 2025. We did have one person from the public that was from the green companies in attendance at that meeting. Citizen comments. We did receive a citizen comment online that was entered into the record objecting to the application. The comment was to increase – their comment was to increase the width of the LPZ, where it is five feet wide, to provide a 100-foot buffer from Peters Road to reduce the building height. And they suggested to remove one westbound lane on Peters Road to make it pedestrian-friendly. And then finally, with regard to other concerns, issues, or other pertinent information, there were no violations or other pertinent information to bring to your attention at this time. So in conclusion, with regard to staff's analysis, in terms of compatibility with the surrounding development pattern, we found that the proposed development meets this criteria. In terms of compliance with the City's Comprehensive Plan, we find that the proposed development meets this criteria, particularly with regard to the future land use element, policies 1.7.7 and 1.7.5, and with regard to the housing element, policy 1.7.1 and 1.7.4. In terms of the conditional use, as I indicated, there is a conditional use component to the proposal. There are several criteria associated with conditional use. We find that the application has met most of the criteria of the conditional use. Criteria 6, we feel it's partially met. This deals with, again, the required utilities and off-site improvements that are required. We have provided some information. The applicant is aware that there will be some off-site improvements that will be required for them, as part of the proposed request. And then, with regard to consistency with the zoning code, we do find that under Section 2750, that they've met the site development plans efficiency standards. They've met the development plans for the PCD, which I reviewed with you. Section 2745, they've met the conditional use criteria, as I just reviewed. The practical difficulty waiver standards of Section 2752 and 2792. And in conclusion, we would recommend approval of the proposed development. I'm happy to answer any questions. And as I said, the applicant is here and can address particularly some of the affordable housing questions that you might have about their alternative proposals. Thank you very much. I think before we take the applicant, I don't see my colleagues jumping in just yet. I do have two questions for you, Mr. Holmes. Page 46, if you could turn back to that, please. Slide 46. So, can you tell us, to the extent that you know, in terms of the code history regarding the size of the units? I mean, obviously, I see the requests, and I know in the past, you know, when I've asked a question similar to, why are we doing it that way, why is it that way currently in our code, sometimes you've said, well, that's the way that we've done it, and it was there for a long time before. So, these minimums, is there a reasoning behind the minimums that are set out in our code? Well, traditionally, most cities have always had a minimum standard, which they'd like to see for unit sizes. Our code is, I think, still a little, and we are working on, as you know, many revisions to the code. We're bringing one to you at the next meeting. But this is still one of the things that we're looking at as well, is the size of units as we deal with housing affordability. A lot of cities are moving to reduce the sizes that were around in the 80s and 90s in terms of size of units. And overall, they are being reduced, but that's traditionally what you'll find in most cities' code, to provide some minimum standard in terms of the size of the unit. So, is it somewhat just philosophical as to why we even have a minimum, as opposed to letting the market tell us or let the developers determine what they think is necessary? You have the option to leave it to the developer. I will tell you, as a planner, I do think that we should establish some minimum level. Again, we need to be cognizant of, you know, changes in the market and what's, you know, kind of happening now. And as I said, we are looking at reducing these standards, because I definitely feel that the current standards are a little out of sync with, you know, what's happening. And you have no, and you've already told us that you have no objection to the request. So, can you move forward to 49, please? Slide 49. Well, you just want 49. Oh, maybe it was, go back one. Let me see. Yeah, actually it's 48. Sorry. Thank you very much. So, really the same question in terms of the setbacks. This is quite a reduction. I see you have no objection to it. What is generally, you know, historically you've requested that our code has quite a bit of a setback that is required, and you have no objection to this request. Can you just explain a little bit why we were previously utilizing such a large setback? So, the setback here, again, when you look at Midtown typically, if you go back to the 80s, 90s, we did have pretty large setbacks. We were looking at a different type district here. We were looking at an office park district or what have you. Midtown, according to our Midtown Master Plan, we're kind of moving into a more urbanized type development pattern within Midtown. That calls for bringing buildings closer to the street, so you're going to be reducing, again, those setbacks to be more consistent with, you know, urbanized walkability, you know, standards and things of that sort. And so, that's why we have no issue with, you know, within this district. I will note that, again, some of the amendments that we're making to the code, we're kind of utilizing the B7Q district to do a lot of stuff, but there are some other districts that we are proposing as part of our upcoming plan amendments to the land development regulations that will more appropriately work in the future, and you won't have these, you know, these setback waivers coming forth. Thank you very much. I also, I'm going to make a Jennings disclosure before any further discussion, and I've had communication with the applicant and the representative, and it won't affect my vote tonight. I'll take a moment to let other colleagues, if they wish to. I'll make the same disclosure. As I will, too. I'll make the Jennings disclosure, and I have one comment. I'll make the Jennings disclosure, although mine was limited on this, but it's been in the past. Councilmember Thatcher. Thank you. Just on that northwest corner elevation. Northwest corner elevation. Let's see if I can bring that up. Right there. Right there. I think. Oh, wait, no, northwest. Yeah, right there. Okay, west, okay, yes. I think the end of the parking garage there could use some artwork, like on the side there. Right here. Yeah. So that's the only comment I have for now. Okay. I like that idea. Thank you. Councilmember Andrea, you're recognized. Thank you, President Reinstein. Pretty much the same comment that I made, I think, two weeks ago. I'm just very concerned about the traffic. You know, we see, again, Peters is currently in F, and so, you know, by 2045, I can't imagine the congestion on Peters. So I like the affordable housing aspect of this, and the, we didn't show it today, but I thought the applicant also added some really nice features in terms of the rooftop. Right. I know when I did meet with them, that was one thing that we discussed, but I still struggle with. Can I say something about that? Um, so right now, everything is very auto-centric, automobile-centric, and the development patterns that we're introducing within Midtown are going to help us as we move toward the future. I know no one can see a pedestrian, I mean, a transit future. It seems so far-fetched in Broward County or what have you, but if we don't start building the density nodes to help improve transit, and that's something that this Midtown District will help do, we can improve the headway of the system. We can improve transit improvements that people will, at some point, find it feasible and as a viable option to start utilizing transit. transit. So we can continue to just start, keep focusing on the, you know, the street roadway network, or we can try to look more at a multimodal kind of centric model. And I think that's where we're going. I think that's where we have to go. You know, we have no more room to kind of expand our roadways, nor is it really feasible for us to do that. So just a different way of looking at it, but I understand your concern about the level of service that you brought up the last time with regard to the roadways. And I absolutely understand your point after sitting with you and Mr. Alpert and a lot of our younger residents, right? That is the way that we need to go, and I hope that is where we're headed. So thank you for those comments. Thank you very much, Mr. Holmes. And I'll ask, I don't know if the applicant, do you have something specific you want to present? It's up to you. I don't know if you want to just wait and see if there are any questions for you. What would you like, please? Mr. Orbach. John Orbach, Stiles Corporation, 201 East Las Olas. We have a full presentation that's similar to what the council has seen before. We'd love to run through it. Obviously, we have our whole team here as well. So the floor is yours if you would like to make a presentation or if you wanted to see if there are any particular questions. Yeah. Okay. How about I'll go quick? How's that? I'll dress what hasn't been addressed. Okay. Mr. Orbach, I want you to make sure that you feel that you have every opportunity to present what you would like to present tonight. So the floor is yours. Thank you. Thank you. So I just wanted to also thank staff, of course, Lisa, Shamika, Michael, Danny. Thank you very much for your presentation, as well as all the departments. We met with everybody several times, of course, fire engineering, utilities, landscape, park and rec, and police. And, of course, the administration with the mayor and Jason. Thank you guys so much for meeting with us. And the boards, there's some board members that were here a little earlier, which is, of course, DRC, PNZ, and, of course, the Midtown board. So thanks to everybody. Also, my team is here. Architects, MSA, George O'Brien, landscape architect, Rhett Roy, which is Michael Pierce. They're a plantation company. Their offices are here. They're right across the street. Also, Kim Lee Horn, Gio Fernandez. They're also across the parking lot the other way. And, of course, Bill Waystrom. I think you guys know him. And Kelly Ray from Green Street Mater. Kelly Ray, congratulations, is also an alternate on the PNZ board and recently just sworn in. And, of course, traffic tech Joaquin Vargas, who's our traffic engineer. That's our group. I think you guys know Stiles. I'll skip that part. Project overview. I think Danny covered that perfectly. Thank you, Danny. And, of course, the existing condition of the parking lot and the future of residential project as well, which will take, essentially, parking spaces that are really not used right now and turn that into a project for the city. Margo Utter is here also with Stiles, and she is going to just walk through the site plan very quickly and try to hit some highlights. Hello, everyone. Yes, like John mentioned, we will go through this quickly. We were going to originally walk through the colored site plan, but Danny did that for us already. So we can always go back if there are kind of detailed questions on what we have programmed. But what we have up here on the screen, if you kind of see from the far left, I'll just kind of take you through the vision board we have. So this is like kind of look and feel of what we could potentially be delivering here in a few years. So we have the pool deck rendering up here in the far left corner kind of gets to show the up close and personal view of the materials on the elevations, the outdoor kind of pavilion gathering area with the, again, the pool. We have a hot tub as well programmed in here, and you can kind of start to see that sky lounge that Jennifer and Andrea actually mentioned earlier as well. We'll go over that vision here in a second. And really just here we have some past pictures of projects we've done, specifically kind of our case study project, if you will, across the street, the Ellsworth. So we have some pictures of what we've done there, and we plan to kind of capture that and give it a little different personality. So I'll keep going. So we just wanted to highlight this new feature that we decided to revamp. So we had that sky lounge, the rooftop lounge on the eighth floor, and we did get some feedback back in February to kind of reconsider adding a little bit more green space and foliage within the building and, you know, not just on the ground floor here. So we kind of took an opportunity to incorporate a numerous amount of planters, and, you know, we have about, I want to say five to six different species being programmed up here that, you know, we're ensuring that we can maintain this, make sure it's, you know, it stays nice and lively, and it's kind of incorporated here on the deck. So, again, there's just kind of a vision surrounding the close-up plan of what we think this area could look and feel like. And then I'm going to pass it back off to John, and I'll come back up here to finish this off. Thanks. So I think we really covered the connectivity very well. I just wanted to point out that this building is going to be in the middle of 12 office buildings, and so there is a lot going on around this particular site. Between the office buildings and the retail, it's a very walkable location. We've talked with providing incentives for some of the office users around us to rent with us, and so we will roll out those programs as we get closer. Additionally, we are agreeing to a lit crosswalk over at the corner, well, the curve of 70th and 10th on the north side, which is one of the entrances to our property. I think we covered all the other points here. That's the lit crosswalk that we're going to add here to the – the crosswalk's already there, but we're going to light it up for everyone. Additionally, we did a study – because we are in discussion with La Quinta – if we are successful building the sidewalk across – it is across La Quinta's property. So we've contacted them, and we're working to see if we can get that done. We also are agreeing to lighting improvements in the parking lot over here in front of Trade Station, which is the Crossroads 4 building, I believe. We are going to add some additional light fixtures here underneath the trees. There's already a crosswalk, which is pictured there, and we're going to just enhance the connectivity for residents to be able to walk behind the AMLE project. So this is really where I think we could really get some guidance, which is we proposed at LUPA four different – excuse me, three different options for affordable housing. The first being 40 units at – which is the 10 percent at 120. And then we had met with the fire department and tried to see if there was a way that we couldn't work together to maybe offer some hometown hero units. And so we've proposed two different scenarios – one 32 units, and you can see the breakdown – and the other 16 units, which would have less units but larger units at 80 percent. And so we haven't gotten that too far on this in that we've – I think everybody's interested in this idea but could really use some feedback from Council as to which way we want to head. We would propose how we would administer this. I know we're creating something new. I think some of the other projects that the Council has considered also has similar ideas here. And so we would propose something and kind of all work together with administration and figure out how to best administer that. So a little bit of a work in progress, but some feedback on that would be very much appreciated as we move forward. I did want to just touch on one aspect, which was Councilman Reinstein's question, and it had to do with the units. So if you look very closely – sorry, this is not the best slide for that – but at the bottom of the slide, maybe you can see on the monitors in front of you, it says PTP, which is paint to paint. So the City of Plantation does measure their units differently than – I don't want to say than everybody else. I just don't know anybody else that does it the same way, which is you measure from the painted wall surface to the painted wall surface. Every other unit that you see kind of marketed is typically to the center of the partition walls that's to the unit next to you and to the front – your front door and all the way through to your back door. So the unit size, if you see on the monitor in front of you, I think that the 487-unit square footage is really 540. It's much larger in comparison to how other units across Broward County are marketed. So there is that difference as well, where if you're looking and saying, oh, this unit seems smaller, well, it's just measured differently. It's actually – it is smaller, I mean, in the exact number, but it is measured differently than units that are marketed, you know, out every day. Okay. So do we want to talk workforce now, or do you want to do that in questioning – do you want to do it now? Okay. I see Councilmember Fadgen buzzed in, so let me just take his question first. Sure. Councilmember Fadgen. I was just going to make a comment regarding the Hometown Heroes. I think Scenario 1, it would be my preference. It's eight total, like Scenario 2, but a little bit more diversity, either one-bedroom or two-bedroom for the Hometown Heroes. Councilmember Horland. Councilmember Horland. I agree. I think I told you when we met that Scenario 1 would be my preference because of the ability to provide those for our first responders. If you're looking for further consensus, Scenario 1 sounds good as well. I appreciate you giving us these options and laying them out here like this. Councilmember Andreo. I agree. Scenario 1 is also the option that we discussed. Okay. Councilmember Anderson. I agree with Scenario 1. Can I ask a question also, a quick question? The floor is yours. Just – I'll reserve the right to come back, but just – can you tell me what the Ellsworth – how many units the Ellsworth? I'll yield back. It's 3 – is it 315 or 325? 315. 315 and how many stories? 8. 8 and 6. There's an 8 piece and a 6 piece. Do you happen to know what OMLE is? It's – I know it's 287. I think it's 6? 6 and 7, I think. 6, 7? 6, 7. That's so funny. Yeah. Sorry. My kid's watching at home. They're going to like that. Go ahead. Councilmember Anderson. Anything further? Not for now. Mayor, you're recognized. Just real quick. If you're doing math for firefighters, let's say we have about 180 volunteers over six stations. That means we have 30 volunteer firefighters, and I'm not arguing for one or two. I'm just saying there's more than enough for firefighters there. See what I mean? In truth, they're probably going to rent 10 or 15 if – that's very optimal. Let's hope they'll rent more. Yeah. I hope so. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You want to proceed? Yes. Thank you. So I believe we covered all of the community contributions. In addition to that, we're going to also contribute $50,000 for the first-time owner's assistant program. I think we caught everything else there. And we also included the utilities letter. I believe that question came up a few times when we were meeting. We have issued this letter. I think we had sent it to you prior to this meeting. We've met with the utilities and Danny and John several times. And I think we have it worked out where we're going to work together with administration and figure out a way through to get the pipe built. But we've issued the letter saying that we're going to be responsible for building the pipe. So I think we have a good working relationship with everybody. And I don't know if Mr. Polio wants to – I don't think he does. No? Not coming up? All right. He's in agreement. All right. We'll save that for another day. Okay. Margo? All right. We'll finish this off when we have a few more slides. Let's see. Okay. So this next one, we kind of went over something similar when we were here back in February, which is our outreach and just kind of taking a look at – you know, kind of reflecting how – what we've done to kind of get up to this point of the coordination meetings. So kind of to start on the right side here, you know, we've spent a great amount of time meeting with, you know, city staff, the various departments, you know, making sure that, you know, we're not only satisfying the requirements that are, you know, listed in our applications. But we're also, you know, really meeting the needs of each, you know, individual that's going to be impacted by our project. So, you know, taking into account the amount of meetings we've spent and the time we spent meeting with city staff, the departments, we've also taken the time to attend various midtown board meetings. You know, we – you know, we're partners here in the city. We look at us as an entity as partners of the city. And, you know, we want to make sure that when we're coming in here proposing a new development that we understand what is going on in the neighborhood. So, you know, we take that very seriously. So we've been fairly involved with the midtown board. And additionally, we've also held several community meetings just specifically for this project. And, you know, just wanting to get the word out there and getting feedback from the public. And then just to touch a little bit on additional outreach that we've done. You know, we felt that it was extremely important to not only get the buy-in from city staff, the planning staff, and the departments, but also the neighborhoods and the residents. And so we decided to kind of go boots on the ground last year. We've continued those efforts this year. And we have gone door-to-door, visiting, you know, all these local retail centers nearby. We've also spent lots of time kind of at our sister property. I guess you could call it the Ellsworth. That was just – it's been easy access for us to get face-to-face with residents that live in these communities and really get feedback from them. So, you know, moving forward through the design process, we are going to, you know, make sure we take that feedback and take it into account with every decision that we make. So, again, we have another just kind of graphic up here showing some of the local businesses and retail centers that we were able to get signatures of support from. And we've had those kind of conversations with those groups. So I'll just keep it moving. So the next kind of sign, and this is a question we've received in the past, which is, you know, who lives in these buildings? And, you know, are these individuals that are moving, that are commuting? Do they work in plantation? And, you know, so we've spent time, again, with the leasing staff. This is our easiest kind of data point to point to what we're going to be seeing in this project as well, which is the Ellsworth. So, you know, I spent time even with the leasing staff. I believe I actually talked to them last week about this, and I challenged them. I was saying, listen, you know, I want to know how leasing has been, and I want you all to tell me, like, the top reasons why people decide to live here after they do tours with us. So I'll just kind of go through these quickly. But we have the first one, which is location. You know, everything that we've already talked about up to this point, proximity to the local retail centers, walking, being able to walk, bike to the grocery store, being able to kind of go get, you know, coffee from your local coffee shop, Pilates studios, salons, you name it. Location is huge. And it's also extremely, you know, convenient access to I-595. You know, you can get to the airport within 20 minutes if you want to go downtown Fort Lauderdale. You can also get there within 20 minutes. So it's extremely desirable from that standpoint. And kind of blending into that, you know, I call this point luxury in suburbia, which is, you know, you can still get to live in a really nice community-like plantation, and you get to have that suburb-like feel. But you're also getting, you know, a brand new kind of apartment package that has any amenity that you can think of. And I think that that's been rare in the past. So people find a lot of value in that, and that's why they're kind of willing to make these projects their home. And then lastly, the employment and the lifestyle. We have a wide range of residents that decide to move into these buildings, specifically in plantation. It's really not just one type of demographic. We've seen anything from students studying at, you know, NOVA, finishing up their degrees, to retirees that sell their house and they want to live the renter lifestyle. And additionally, a very large group of people that work in these local office parks, just like the one that we're going to be catacorned with Crossroads. So we really have seen a large bit of that. And something that I mentioned that some of the council members I would bring just to kind of show how when we have residents that move into these buildings, you know, we do our best to kind of incorporate and embed them into the community and encourage them to kind of use these local businesses. So I brought kind of the bag that we usually give folks when they move in. Usually it's kind of filled with a bunch of goodies. I didn't get all that when I wanted to pick this up, but we have, you know, we have like our branded towel. And then we also usually have kind of a large deck of coupons and brochures. So, again, I have a few examples in here, but, you know, this is, again, just to get residents to stay local and support local businesses. You know, this one here from Face Foundry from like a local med spa, you get discounts on your first kind of treatments. We have, you know, different various coupons from Blaze to Associato. So, again, I won't go on, but we, you know, we encourage that in these communities. And we like to really encourage property management to do that type of outreach when we open. And then. If you don't mind, before you continue, Council Member Fadgen has a question on the last slide, please. Yeah, of course. So regarding the working locally in nearby medical and professional centers, do you have any numbers about people who are walking or biking to their offices? I can't say that we've done, we have not done specific studies that measure the exact amount that do commute by foot or by bike. So I can't say I have that exact metric. But I think you could, especially in, you know, what we have a slide, it shows the percentage of who is, like, working where. But I think you want to know, like, who's using their bike, right? Like, who's not getting in their car? I mean, the whole point of the district is to get people out of their car. So if they're, you know, obviously the students that go to Nova, they're getting in their cars. But if they're working in the buildings, the medical buildings and such, hopefully they're walking. But I'm just curious if we know those statistics. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's something that we can look into as we kind of move further down the process. But one thing I was actually going to mention on that we, and I think John slightly touched on this earlier, you know, we plan to encourage property management to get with the Crossroads Park property management. And we want to incentivize those employees to rent specifically at this property. Right. And we want that partnership because, I mean, let's be honest, if you're living at Crossroads residential building, you're going to walk to work. And it's going to be a really nice kind of connectivity and community there. So one follow-up, not a follow-up question, but a question or another regarding your goodie bag. Are you charging the businesses to put their cards in there or they just have to reach out to you and say, hey, can I give you a postcard to include in the goodie bag or to offer some kind of? No, that's a great question. So when I was chatting with staff last week, they said that lots of times they'll have groups come out and they'll visit, they'll come to the lobby, they'll ask to talk to management, and they just drop by. In some cases, they ask to provide coupons or advertisements and usually will accept whoever kind of offers. So there's no charge. So if someone – I'm not walkable. You lost my train of thought. So if a business would like to promote themselves, offer a coupon, they just have to come to the leasing office and talk to the manager and supply them with a card? Yes, yes. No, it's – they make it very easy. And then lots of times during lease-up when we're brand new, the opposite will happen. Like our leasing staff will actually go out and they'll promote like, hey, we're about to lease in 60 days and they'll try to do that. They'll try to get that collaboration going as well. Yeah. I was just going to add to that point is that, you know, you've worked very hard with the community outreach and business outreach and not that signing off and support was a necessity, but you have a list of businesses that have already told you that they really are looking forward to this because they want to see an increase in clientele and patronage. So it would probably be great to reach out back to them and give them a tour and ask them what they could provide to further help promote their businesses. Yes. No, yeah. And I think we – you know, we have a big marketing kind of initiative that we do when we're preparing to open. And I think that this is going to be – this is going to be a great kind of way to take this. And I guess it's going to be in within, you know, two years, but kind of refresh the list and have the team kind of go back out and bridge the gap there. One moment. Councilmember Andrea, you're recognized. I know that when we met, I also asked you to include information about the schools as well. Yes, yes. So that would also be very helpful and great as we're working on enrollment in particularly the public schools, but all of the schools here in Plantation. Yes. No, 100 percent. And it kind of going back to the diverse amount of people that we see in these buildings. You know, there's lots of – we see lots of families, maybe more so than, you know, the typical rental building in another city. So that would be important. Thank you. Great. Okay. Any more questions before we last slide? All right. This one will be super quick because I think everyone has seen this before. But we get lots of questions on height. And I know we showed this last time when we were here in February, but we just wanted to reiterate kind of where we stand in terms of our neighbors and in terms of where other, you know, buildings kind of lie in their height. So taking a look on the screen, we have the graph that shows to the left the amount of stories in the building. And then on top where we have the approximate height to the top of the parapet. And then obviously at the bottom we have the names of the different projects around town. So, you know, we have ours here in the far left that's under-proposed crossroads. And then right next door, again, across the street we have Ellsworth. So we plan to be right in line with that same height. So everything is going to feel very kind of compatible at the end of the day when, you know, we're built and finished. And as you can see, we lie well below some of the, some of the tallest buildings in the district as well. But other than that, we are, we're done with our official presentation, but we do have these extra exhibits in case there's questions. But, um, so I'm gonna, you know, Bill Lestrom's been awfully quiet tonight. So I'm gonna call him up and see if he, if he has anything else for us to add here. Thank you all. Thank you very much. Mr. Lestrom. A smart man knows when to just say thank you. Uh, I only one quick comment and that was on the affordable housing. Now that you've made the selection, I'll now go back to Broward County to confirm that that's acceptable under the conditions of approval that we got there. They have a great planner named Barbara Blake Boye, who I've already met with a couple of times. And so we're here to answer questions. Thank you very much. I have, um, Matthew. I sit in the same spot and he respectfully don't mind. That's, that's my spot. Yeah. And, um, he was as polite as can be. Yeah. And the person looked, the person looked at him and said, this guy seems to know that that's his spot. And, um, um, but, uh, yeah. It's, it's funny to say that too. It's, uh, Owen always seems so nice. And, uh, if, if you got on his bad side, you, you kind of know it. And that's, that's one thing I always try to do with Owen was, was try to make him laugh. Uh, that was one of my goals for the day. Sometimes it didn't happen. Um, but, um, yeah, a lot of people who are here in front of me and behind me, uh, been part of, uh, Owen Duke's life, uh, for near two decades. Um, and just, uh, tremendous amount of respect for you guys here and everybody here. Um, I've been with Owen for just a short while. Um, and I know that he wouldn't want all the attention. That's just how Owen was. Um, but I sure enough will keep everybody updated on what's planned for the celebration. I hope maybe we can all get together and plan something else. Um, absolutely something else. Um, for, for the city of Plantation, I know that, uh, this is what kept Owen going for this long. Um, 86, uh, he was trying to retire, but if you knew Owen, that, that just wasn't a possibility. Uh, he was looking at Pensacola and just before the flight there, um, this all happened. But, um, uh, it's, um, again, I, I know that, uh, you guys have known him for the celebration. But, uh, you guys have known him for a lot longer here. Um, and truly, truly, uh, I know that you valued your friendship and, uh, your collaborations with everything. Uh, it's, uh, it's, it's been an honor working with Owen. I just wish I had a little bit more time. You just, you just don't know, right? Uh, thank you for taking the time for, uh, in a moment for remembering Owen, uh, his friendship and his contributions to the city of Plantation. Um, I hope to get together pretty soon here to figure out something for Owen. Um, to speak about Crossroads Project, I know that this was, um, uh, something for Owen, that he was for. Uh, I think the last time this was presented, uh, he said, uh, he'd like to see those AMX cards and those Visa cards, right? Uh, build up that retail, build up those shops, and bring some money into the city of Plantation. Uh, for myself, um, I'm Matthew Ridgway, 8000 Peters, uh, 1250 South Pine Island, uh, Eddington Duke, uh, Crossroads, uh, excuse me, uh, Cornerstone Association President. Um, Margo spoke about this project. Uh, it'd be nice to have another partner with drainage. That was one of Owen's bigger things is the drainage of the city of Plantation to keep it from going underneath the water here. Uh, thank you again for bringing up Owen Duke. Uh, just, just a sad day, but remembrance, um, thank you for all that you did for him. And I look forward to speaking to you guys soon here. Thank you. Thank you very much. And, uh, you know, I was going to save those comments initially for the end of the meeting, but since you, since, uh, we were calling you up, I wanted to make sure to recognize it while you were here and had an opportunity to say a few words. So thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Next up, Mr. Conklin, followed by Matthew McIntosh. Dennis Conklin, 4581 Northwest Six Court. I've been sworn in, understand the rules. I had a few questions. Um, on the, um, styles page 11 of the PDF. I was wondering what the two white structures were up in the, uh, uh, area that we're talking about. The trapezoid, the trapezoid. Are they, um, offices or are they residential? Just kidding. That's, uh, PDF page 11 of 38. Of the city presentation or the applicant's presentation? Styles. I said styles at the first. I'm sorry if I didn't. No, it's okay. I just saw Mr. Holmes looking over there and I didn't know if, um, Mr. Auerbach or. Um, I, I, it was, uh, page 26 on the city's 36, uh, 28 on the city's 36 page. They're sort of corresponding. That one. Uh, page 11. Uh, page 11. It gave the area. This is the city's. Um, I was wondering what the two white structures were. Uh, residential, uh, office. I don't know. Because they, they mentioned 24 and a quarter acres. 11. Just look for a number of letters. Mr. Auerbach, if you can just go to the microphone if you're gonna speak, please. The city's. Right by the lake. Oh, that's the city's. That's the city's. That's the city's. There you go. That one. Office. Thanks. Okay. Terrific. So, um. Are those trapezoids? Because that, um, it, it works out there's only 15, uh, units per acre, basically. When you're looking at that, 24 acres. So, uh, I'm pretty happy with that. Um, this has all been about affordability. And if you've looked at, uh, styles page 34, it breaks down the, uh, the difference that it costs for renting and purchasing these units. First of all, for some reason, when they're for sale, there's $20,000 more in cost than renting the, the property, uh, value. Um, the rents were $3,325 a month for the rent. And if you bought, it would have been $5,185. That includes the HOA. Now, the difference of that is $1,800 bucks a month. The, the problem is if, if you look at affordability, uh, I'm a big Dave Ramsey fan. Okay. I was a coordinator and everything else like that. Your, your housing. If you're ever going to be able to retire in dignity, it's gotta be basically 25% of your take-home pay. So if you look at these two figures, $3,300, you have to have a take-home pay into the house, $13,000 a month. And for $5,000, it's $20,700 a month. So, you're looking at a rental, $159 a year for that family, if they're ever going to get out of there and retire in dignity. You see what I'm saying? None of this is actually affordable. Now, if... Mr. Conley, just so you know, your time has expired, so if you want to finish up, please. I'll wrap it up. Thank you. Um, if you went with a rental and you did have the income, uh, the difference from the rental and the purchase, um, because it mentioned also on the pages of, of, uh, the styles, uh, 20% down that avoids mortgage, uh, insurance for purchases. So, 20% down on, on their $20,000 more, uh, property at sale is $122,000. Uh, if you stayed in the rentals for five years, you could put up at the savings of $1,860, you could put up that $122,000 and move on. And then hopefully get into a purchasing thing because dang, I don't know anybody that's making $159,000 to rent these places for $22,000 or to buy, uh, $248,000. Thank you, Mr. Conklin. I, I thank you for allowing me to extend my remarks. Mr. McIntosh, followed by Mr. Bagelman. Hi, uh, Matthew McIntosh, uh, 601 Northwest 82nd Avenue, uh, Plantation, Florida. Um, yep, uh, I just want to say, I think it's been about like two years now since I first started coming to the city council meetings. And I believe this project was one of the ones that were being discussed at the time. So happy to see that some, some of the progress is being made. I'm hoping we can get the approvals for it, uh, so we can get more of the housing on the market. Um, the way for getting out the housing crisis is to build more housing. And then that way as that housing gets older, it becomes more affordable over time. This is the same thing as like cars where if you want more affordable cars, you need to continue manufacturing the new cars. So the older cars have less value. Um, I will say for, I really like the reduction in the parking requirements. Uh, the more parking there is, is the more traffic that there will be. And it will increase the cost of construction for each parking, uh, with each parking space. So having less parking spaces kind of tackles that two of the big issues in the city, which is traffic and housing costs. Um, I will say out of all the projects have come and passed through the board. Um, I feel there should, if we're going to ask questions about traffic generation, we should have asked it about that Chick-fil-A because I'm still driving to it and I'm driving. Um, putting, I'm putting in the mileage from the wheels of that one on the university. So that's just something to note is the commercial properties are the biggest traffic generators, not the residential properties, especially not one that's like properly connected to places where you would want to eat. Like, let's say like a Five Guys, for example. Um, so just something to keep in mind there. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. McIntosh. Mr. Begelman, followed by Mr. McMillan. Uh, hi. I don't want to beat a dead horse. Sorry, sorry. If you could just state your name and your address and that you've. Oh, Alex Begelman. And you've been sworn in. I live at 817 Southeast Second in Fort Lauderdale. Um, but I work in one of the office buildings as part of this development. Uh, yeah, I understand the rules of being sworn in. Thank you. Um, I don't want to beat a dead horse. It seems like everyone's pretty much on the same page supporting this. Uh, I just wanted to add that as somebody who works in that corporate park, the idea of adding some residential into that area, I think is a good, uh, way to kind of erode the soulless corporate park feeling you can sometimes get, especially if you're leaving the office late at night. It's a dark, empty parking lot to have some more liveliness, light foot traffic. I think that it's going to make it a more positive experience for all the people who have to work in the area and make it, uh, more of a community feeling. So just wanted to add that in there and thank you all for your time. Thank you. Hmm. Yeah. If you'll save me some rent, I'll be there. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate your comments. Mr. McMillan. Ladies. My name's Jay McMillan. I live in 800 block of West Tropical Way. I've been a plantation residence for 63 years. This is the second time I've been in front of you all. Uh, I just want to know why are we building more apartments? Can someone up here at the council tell me why? Why do we need 380 more apartments in plantation? Why do we need thousands more apartments in the last year? Why do we need thousands more cars driving on Peters Road? Why does the traffic back up from University to East Tropical in the afternoon? And what's the purpose of this? Why do we need a 9-story apartment complex when right across the street, Plantation Colony, is a 2-story apartment complex? It sits back from the road. Nobody sees it. I mean, the only difference between then and now is Mayor Veltrie that I can see. So that's my comments. I want to know why the city is going in the direction it's going. Thank you very much. I didn't want to cut you off. I want to make sure you had a chance to say what you wanted to say. No, no, no. I mean, look, you know, we could go on, but I don't want to waste anybody's time. I just want to know in this particular, because the other 2 apartment complexes, oh, 3 if you include Mill Creek, which has neither a creek or a mill. No. But the traffic on Peters, regardless of their traffic study, which was done in 22, is horrible. You know, the urban high-density citywide speed limit now is 60 miles an hour apparently, and school zones are readily ignored, especially on Peters. So I just think that every now and then a resident should come up here and say, why are we doing this? You know, you just approved two apartment complexes, three clearly north of Sunrise in a very small area. Hundreds of apartments, thousands of people. You know, 11th place, you guys want to put a roundabout in somebody's front yard because of the traffic. I used to live in Mirror Lake years ago. So if it's for housing, you know, explain to me why we don't have housing, because it seems like we have plenty of housing in plantation. If it's affordable housing, well, you know, I don't see them building condos and apartments on Fisher Island. You know, I don't think we're responsible for providing affordable housing to Briard County. And with that, I'll finish my time here, my second time in front of the council. Thank you very much. And you are welcome any time and every time you wish to speak. Well, you know, the first time was the FAA's new route over South Royal Palm, and nothing got done there. So my expectations here is very minimal on this subject also. Well, I understand that. I hear that from you. Before I call on the mayor is that I want to – a couple things. One is that this is not the first time that this project is before us. I understand. Hold on. Give me a second. And the first time it was before us, there was also quite a lengthy discussion, a couple hours maybe. And in that discussion, there was a lot more of our reasoning and discussion as to our thoughts on this particular project. So just so you know what you're hearing tonight, it's the second time before us, if not the third time before us. I wanted to at least personally touch on one item that you just mentioned in regards to traffic. Because even tonight you heard Councilmember Andrew mentioned traffic and I think we probably all mentioned traffic concerns. If I recall correctly from the last meeting, I raised quite a bit of concerns that I had with this project. And my number one concern was traffic on Peters Road. And one of the challenges that I had to this particular project and to the applicant was what does the surrounding area think about the increased traffic. And one of the things that they've done, which I can tell you I appreciated, was that they went to the local businesses specifically that would be affected in that section of Peters Road between Pine Island and University probably more than some other than others. And every single one of the businesses that they spoke to responded that they need an increased patronage and they need more people to frequent their restaurants. And, you know, sometimes you see that and, you know, it's kind of limited because it's it's not a back and forth. They're not coming to speak to us. We're seeing them signing off on something. And many of those restaurants are restaurants that we all frequent. And some of them I went myself and had some conversations. And I can tell you I'll tell you one specifically because you saw on the on the slide was from Borsalino. Borsalino is a small cafe restaurant that is just just off of Peters Road. And I said to George, the owner, I said, do you really want to see another building? And he said that it is so important in order for their survival to have more residents that are in walking distance and that will will frequent his business. And you saw that from Burton's, you saw that from Padrino's and you saw so many in the area. So, you know, that was part of the discussion the last time around. I'm not saying that that is is the end all be all for the residents and the effect on on traffic. But I just wanted to share that that was that was some discussion that at least was was weighing heavy on at least my vote the last time around. And it's something I'm considering today. So before let me let me jump to a few people want to make some give some response and see if they can be helpful. The mayor has chimed in and then Councilmember Horland. Thank you for your question. And always speak up. Appreciate. I'll try to answer your question. Actually, since 2002, there's been a plan long before any of us sat here that mapped out the idea of developing a downtown and growing this. What I would love to do is either sit with me or Mr. Alpert and planning zoning or Mr. Holmes, who have been following this for years and actually answer your question. What is the line of thinking? Because I think that's a sincere question. Like, what the hell are we thinking? Yeah, I've just I've seen Midtown. The changes have been approved over the years. Yeah, one was in 2002. And I have another one from 2016, a plan signed off by Councilmembers well before us with the idea of creating a downtown. And they are more eloquent about it than I am. If you want to take an hour sometime and come visit us, I would love it. You sit with me, sit with planning and zoning and talk it through and vet it. If you see holes in it, I want to hear it. And I'm not opposed to development. I'm opposed to extraordinary development, you know, where you're adding 300, 600, 800 apartments, you know, in six month period. I'm opposed to that kind of development. You know, if you want to build a two story apartment complex in this area and keep the oak trees, you know, to shade it from Peters, you got my blessing. I think it's a great idea. But the idea that people are going to walk and ride bikes, you know, in 90 degree weather to these places. Well, I think you guys are delusional if you believe that. I don't think it's going to happen. Despite that. And going back to your first comment. Mr. McMillan, hold on one second, because I want to give Councilmember Horland an opportunity and then thank you. Mr. McMillan, I know you as Jay. I hope you don't mind the familiarity. And you were a tremendous resource on the FAA stuff because you did mention that. I wish that as a city we could have done more. I wish we could have also. We all tried to get involved, including Davey, and you know that. To the mayor's point about the midtown development, and I hope you will sit down. And I know how this impacts you and all the residents along Peters Road and Tropical. One of the other considerations, and you know that prior to all of us getting elected, about 3,600 apartment units have been approved. And I don't think anybody had the intention of coming up here and start to approve more apartments. But a couple of things have happened. No thought to affordability was given to any of those developments before we sat here. And South Florida's facing a crisis. So now the onus has been on this Council to really have to make some of those decisions. But the other thing that's like a sword adamantly is hanging over our head is the state legislature. And with recent legislation that they've passed in the last couple of years, namely the Live Local Act. You know, I often, I keep saying up here, I use it as a verb. Some cities are being Live Local, and what I mean by that, and I won't get into all the details, but we need to have the ability now to be able to work with the developer as we have with this. As the Council President said, we initially were against this project. But in order to leverage and get the things like the forest main and the improvements to the multimodal and the affordability that we were seeking, we need to be able to work with them because the way the state legislature has passed the statute is if they meet certain criteria, they can come in and they can get a project approved without our approval and without your voice being heard. And they get it approved in administrative. So it's frustrating. We've been, you know, kind of pushed in a corner, so we're trying to find that balance, as you heard with the businesses and, you know, the other things, and trying to get the improvements that we can while getting a project that, you know, meets our standards. So I hope you will sit down with planning and zoning. I know it doesn't, we're not saying this to appease you, and I know how much you care about this community. I know it's getting late, and I don't really want to cut you off, but I've taken up too much of your time already. The one comment I do have, though, is you mentioned that you had meetings prior to today, and I understand you did. In all of these apartment things you are doing, the notification zone you use is ridiculous. I mean, you notified everybody in apartments that they're building an apartment. You know, do they care you're building an apartment? Yeah, they get a lower apartment rate, I guess. I don't know. So, yeah, they like the idea. People that live in Royal Palm South and golf course community and east and west tropical do not like this idea of building an apartment. Yeah, the businessmen there, they like the idea. I would, too, if I owned a restaurant right there. But the people who have to deal with the traffic every day getting in and out of those neighborhoods, they do not like this idea. And they don't come up here and talk because they don't know about this idea. You know, the first time they find out is when the cranes start clearing the land. So, I mean, although the mayor puts out a very nice letter. But, I mean, it still doesn't do as well as, you know, I talk to my neighbors and I say, you know, they're putting in 380 more apartments. Really? Where? Right there at Peters. Right up against Peters. People driving their 60 miles an hour down Peters, just typing LOL, are going to ride right into it after they hit the bicyclists, the one bicyclists. We hope not, but thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it. Thank you. We do. I do not have any further comment cards. I don't think there's anyone online and I don't see any further requests from my colleagues to speak. So, we are on item 13. Do we have a motion for item 13? Mr. City Attorney. I just want to make sure that the motion for all three items are going to be subject to and condition upon land use plan amendment approval and the rezoning approval that I understand is going to be scheduled in November. And subject to all commitments of the applicant and staff report. And I'm going to say it now if it hasn't been said recently is that I would like to make sure that when staff is hearing our motion that when there is concessions by applicants on the record, when we make the motion, I believe that unless we say we don't want their concession, they've given us a concession on the record. This is what they're going to do. And so, you know, I just want to make sure that if there's any question by staff in any department, whether that should be included, please ask the question. Jump up when that motion is made so that we can make sure that the clarification is made on the record. Mr. Holmes, please, by all means. Yeah, no, no, of course. If the city attorney hadn't said what he said, I was going to jump up and say the exact same thing. Oh, sure you were, Mr. Holmes. No, no, no. Trust me. You're not going to. No, thank you. No. I'm going to question you on everything. Correct. And I appreciate it. And so maybe we all need to do better with that, whether it's council, whether it's the departments, and with the help of the city attorney so that we can make sure that our motions clearly reflect the discussion from the dais and the concessions and positions taken from the applicant. So with that all being said, I think, can we go ahead, do we have a motion for item 13? I'll make a motion to approve given the entire conversation that just happened. We had the motion based on everything that has been set forth. And do we have a second? We are on item 13. We have a motion. Do we have a second? I'm not hearing a second. We can, without a second, we can not move forward on item 13. We can put 13 aside for a moment and see if there's a difference with items 14 or 15. Do we have a motion on item 14? I'll be the one to make the motion on item 14. So we have a motion on item 14. Do we have a second on item 14? We can try item 15. Do we have a motion for item 15? Just as a point of clarification, 15 really pertains to 14. They are the waivers associated with the site plan. Just giving it a try. Understood. Mr. Leeson, why don't you come to the microphone, please? It would appear that there's something that needs to be addressed. I'm not sure what that is yet, but what I would ask is that you table the three items to the 19th of November, which is the same time as the land use amendment and the rezoning, and that way we can hear them all at the same time. Mr. President, I'll withdraw my motions and make a motion to table into the 19th. Motion to table has been made, which takes precedent with a date certain. Mr. City Attorney, just to confirm, does the motion to table need a second? Yes. Yes, sir. I will second the motion to table. And the motion to table applies equally to items 13, 14, and 15? Correct. Thank you. All right. If there's any discussion, I don't see any discussion requested on the motion to table. I think there is no discussion. Yes, sir. Ms. Beggaro, will you call the roll? Council Member Andreu? Yes. Council Member Fajin? Yes. Council Member Horland? Yes. Council Member Anderson? Yes. Council Member Reinstein? Yes. Thank you. We next have comments by the Mayor. Mr. Ridgeway brought up Owen Duke. I made some calls trying to find funeral arrangements, and I haven't found any. We're still waiting. Is that right? Okay. I'm good with that. Just let us know when you know so we can share it with the public. That's all. You guys saw body cams have become prevalent among everybody. Congratulations, Jennifer Andreu. I remember sitting over there with you four years ago, and you were talking about body cams, and I remember the day I got right there when I was sworn in, and you looked at me, and I was like, I could tell your words were body cams. So you really drove this, and I'm glad that everybody worked together to make it happen. That's it. Thank you, Mayor. Next up, we have comments from Council Members. Council Member Andreu? Thank you, President Reinstein. I know it's late, but I do have a few things on the agenda that I need discussion with my colleagues on. And, of course, because of sunshine, I don't have that opportunity to speak to them. I drafted a resolution. I'm prepared to bring it to our next meeting. I wanted to see if it's needed or if I have consensus verbally, if we could just speak to administration. But I, in lieu of recent findings that I know all of us have read and probably spoken to residents about, I would like to request a payroll and a property audit from an outside auditor. I know that we already have the team that Ms. Oteniano works with. I believe that they also are familiar with doing the payroll and property audits. So, we could probably, depending on the contract language, incorporate or utilize their services or if it required a new solicitation. But I'd like to hopefully get consensus from my colleagues on us moving forward in this direction. I see Councilmember Fadgen wants to respond. Please. So, can you say, what do you want audited? Our payroll? Right. Like, the validity of the transactions that's already occurred? Correct. Okay. So, they, I mean, usually, how I've seen it done, right, they would pull random pay periods from random departments. Right. So, you want more of an agreed upon procedure done probably by our auditors to test the processes of that. I, I've been, I made a public records request and I plan on making another public records request. What I would like seeing is, I've lost faith in our internal control apparatus. And I would like to have someone come in to review what we have in place, documented internal control apparatus that has anything to do with financial reporting and the safeguarding of the assets of the city. Because this is, that's supposed to be the, that's supposed to be the net. Now, the audit is reactionary. It's historical. And we might, maybe we should have, you know, I don't necessarily think it's, it's a bad idea to get the consensus to see if we do want the audit. But I, I definitely feel like a review of what, what is our document internal control apparatus. And that, that really drove my questions on the consent agenda items that I pulled today. I really would like to know when a control was implemented by who, when was it reviewed last, when was it revised. I'd like, you know, I would think that our auditors could do this, um, review of the internal control apparatus, assess what internal control apparatuses are missing. Um, I want to know, one of the questions I had on the 17th was who's responsible, not responsible that the deficiency occurred, but who's old, you know, who's responsible to make sure that the internal control, um, apparatus documentation is in place. I, I, I don't know the answer to that. Is it done individually by department or is it overseen by the director of finance, which would be my, um, um, my, my, my, my, that's what I would think would be, who would be ultimately responsible, um, to make sure that the appropriate processes are in place. And, and, and, and I'm not bringing any of this up to say that, um, anyone did anything wrong. Unfortunately, when you have a, you know, a failure in internal control, you don't know what you don't know. Um, what was very upsetting to me, obviously, um, regarding the item on, on the September 17th is that it happened in public works. Um, and in the next day, the, the final, um, closing memorandum from the inspector general regarding the previous, um, public works director came out. And at that point in time, when the investigation and the public works, the current, the new, uh, Matt, um, was applauded for the actions that he took regarding the, the, um, the deficiencies that the inspector general was, um, identifying during their investigation at the beginning of the process. But at that point, I don't know if we had a, it doesn't, obviously we had a deficiency and right now, I don't feel like there was a document internal control that led to the, the overspend of a quarter million dollars and the overspend of the line item that was remaining of a hundred thousand dollars. So I really want to get someone in to review the entire internal control apparatus to say, okay, everything's sufficient in this department and this department. I don't know if, uh, um, historic because an audit's basically going to be, uh, um, uh, a point in time. I, I want to make sure we stopped any problems. And if we do something to determine that the internal control is, um, lacking, then we maybe have a more specific, um, um, agreed upon procedure to identify those things. But I was going to bring this up. I was trying to get my ducks in order. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm appreciative that you've, you know, brought this up in your comment tonight. So thank you. If I may. So, yeah, we'll turn it back to the council member Andre. Sorry. I had a lot to say. Yes, you did. Good points. And, um, again, what I've seen, uh, in previous audits, the auditor, not only like you said, they're not only looking back in time because I don't think I feel as strongly as you in terms of saying that we do have a lack of control or control in place or guardrails in place. I don't know that. Like you said, I don't know what I don't know. So that's why I would like the audit. They might come in and say, you know, we did not find, um, any exceptions or, but regardless, I think they'll make recommendations for improvements, right? Um, they always have recommendations for improvements. So, uh, that is my reason for the request, because I, uh, think we can, no matter what the findings are, we can continue to get better. And I just feel like, um, we need to, we need to be more accountable, right? And we need to, to hold staff also, um, to a higher standard of accountability. Before I turn it back over to council member Fadgen, because I know he wants to jump back in. Um, council member Andre, just to be sure. So now you've heard quite a bit council member Fadgen of what he would like to have done. Um, are you still, are you looking for something separate and distinct from what council member Fadgen is suggesting? Do you think it's something that, um, you want to modify to see consensus together? Can you just elaborate so that we can understand exactly where to go from with your suggestion? Well, my suggestion is still to maintain the, the property and the payroll audit. And with that would come, they would obviously give us a closeout report at the end of this identifying, um, any weaknesses, any exceptions, uh, and also give recommendations on improvement. Um, so to respond to your, uh, request for a consensus, um, and before I jump back to council member Fadgen is that, um, listen, I think anytime that any one of my colleagues thinks that there's a reason to, um, um, look deeper. And to provide more, um, more information and insight to us, to our residents, um, another level of comfort. Um, I would be supportive of the, the audit, both payroll and asset property that you're talking about. Um, whether it's, um, needs a resolution or what it would need in order to make that request. Um, I'm not sure just yet, but, um, I'll see if, uh, I don't know if any of my other colleagues want to respond in terms of the request for a consensus, uh, council member Horland. Thank you, Mr. President. Um, what I'd like to hear, because I do think in reading that final OIG report, there were things in there that obviously, um, and I think there was a very extensive, uh, response from the city correcting what had gone on under the prior director. Um, what I, I do think I had some questions about the payroll. I thought that those numbers were, um, I'm going to say odd, um, in, in the way that that was presented by the OIG. Um, I, I, I'm, I'm questioning the accuracy of the way that was presented. And I think especially in the followup articles we've seen in the media, because the way that looks to the residents is almost at 4.5 million was stolen. And that wasn't it. It was, it was those internal control, uh, documents. Um, what I'd like to hear, um, because I don't want to be too broad with this. And I, I did take exception because I think that, um, on the 17th, that yes, it was a mistake made. I think we're all concerned about it. I had my conversation privately about that. And I think it was appropriate to, to bring it up and say, you know what, we understand what happened and that, um, changes have been made. But I want to be very careful about casting aspersions when it comes to fraud and OIG investigations, because I don't think that was the case. And I will state that again. What I'd like to hear, um, and I hate to use the term doging, but we've, you know, we've heard it. And I know the city had said, um, after we came back from Florida League of Cities with the doge presentation by the state, that, um, we would be looking and kind of self doging. Uh, administration committed to that the mayor did. And so I'd like to hear before, and I don't think we need resolution resolution. I think a consensus would be plenty. Um, I'd like to hear what's already being done, um, by administration. Are, are any of these things, um, you know, taking a look at, um, a payroll audit or property audit, uh, being done. So I'd like to hear that first. Councilman Anderson. Uh, I know you haven't buzzed in, but I want to make sure you have an opportunity if you want to respond. Okay. Um, council member Andreu, um, before I turn it back over to council member Fadgen, I want to make sure that, um, you have a full opportunity for your, your comments tonight. No, through, um, just to comment to council member Horland's, uh, question. I had that conversation, um, with Mr. Noonamaker and was not under the impression that anything was in motion yet. But again, based on the conversation that we have tonight, um, it sounded like they're willing and able, uh, to take that. That next step. Um, I'd like to hear from administration. Okay. Well, a couple of things, um, as to council member Andreu's request, subsequent to that conversation, I had a discussion with the finance director and transmitted the OIG report to her to forward the, our auditors to see what they could do from a payroll and property audit perspective. Because it seems to me they could glean from that, uh, those weaknesses that we, we could hopefully, one of the things I want to do is to make some lemonade out of it to get some insight as to processes to carry forward into our ERP that we'll be doing in the future. Can I just, I just want to stop you in terms of timing. So that's already been passed to our, our external auditors. Yeah. To get a quote from them and in a, in a kind of a work program, if you go on what that would look like in a cost. I do have any sense of a timeline of when you expect to hear back from them. I wouldn't expect it would take more than a few days, really. Um, we can bring something back at the next meeting. So, um, I would ask that, um, since you have told us that they already have it and they're already considering it, um, I don't, I heard you say a few days, but, um, I would say you can have longer than that if you want. But, uh, advising us and say, we've got a robust, seem like we will, whatever effort y'all need us to undertake, we'll undertake. Um, but you know, we've had some interesting folks here. Um, I personally have tried to intervene in the past, was roadblocked. Um, so when I've tried to, uh, cut some of those folks loose in the past, I couldn't do it. So I have that ability now. I'll exercise that ability. Um, so y'all let us know what we need to do for y'all to instill confidence and we'll take those actions. I don't see anybody buzzing in just yet. So I'll just ask a follow up is that in terms of what you've heard so far in terms of the request for, um, a, the, an external payroll audit asset property audit, um, is that based on what you have put forth to our auditors already and asked for some type of, um, plan from them or cost, um, uh, cost analysis as to what, what they could accomplish. Uh, is that already in the war? Is that what you have in mind that they would be doing what we've just heard that council member Andreu has raised? Yes. And I would say it wouldn't necessarily be limited to that because let's say they look at the OIG report and say, well, we'd like to look at X, Y, and Z as well. We would recommend you do that. And we'd be open to it. Okay. Um, uh, council member Andreu, did you have anything further in your comments? So I'm going to, uh, council member Fajan, I know you've, uh, buzzed in, but I'm going to turn the floor to you anyway for council member comments so you can speak. Thank you. Well, I'm sorry. That's what I was asking you a couple of times to, I'm sorry. Uh, so we can finish up this topic. That's fine. She can move on. Um, I, I agree with council member Horland. I, I interpreted the inspector general report as up to, because the numbers didn't make sense to me that it was that large. That would nothing we get done in the city for that much labor to be stolen in one year. Um, I, I, I'm appreciative that, um, we're reaching out to the auditors. I think we should ask them. Uh, I, I'm thinking of my professional background, my professional experience. I don't think an audit is necessarily what we need first. I think we need first someone to look over what are our controls are to see what's, what's there. And then for them to assess that, what the documented controls are appropriate and what might be missing. And then to your point about people doing bad things, you're a hundred percent right. Um, you know, and then collusion's a whole other matter. You know, when you have two people trying to circumvent internal control. I mean, CPAs get to lose their licenses over these kinds of things when they, when they don't find it. And, and the, and the sad fact is an audit's not designed to find, um, fraud because that's an intentional thing. But the profession changed in 2000 with Enron and there's an expectation that our auditors find it. But that's not what, what they're there for. I, I would like, I like the inquiry to include what do they feel about revealing all of our internal controls. And from just from the standpoint is we have this, this, and this, and then they're saying, well, what about that, that, and that, that, that's what I'm trying to get at. And then if necessary, test those internal controls. Um, um, so that's really what I was trying to get at. So, um, I, I was going to ask that we reach out to the auditor, so I'm glad that that action's already been taken. So that's all I have on this topic. I'll wait for my turn. Thank you. Very good. And I, I do want to follow up with a question. Um, councilman Fadgen, so based on what you're asking for in terms of this, um, uh, analysis with recommendations in terms of the internal control apparatus that I hear you speak about. Um, is the, the, the auditor that is, that we've been, that the administration has already reached out to. Do you believe they also have the ability to, uh, dive into what you're asking as well? Or is that a separate? No, they would have a hundred percent the ability. Okay. I want to make sure that we're talking to the right people. Yeah. You just talk to them and any public accounting firm would be able to do this. Our, our auditors certainly would be able to do what I'm asking for. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Um, council member Andreo, please continue. I do. I, I was so glad you asked. So we have said tonight that education is so important, right? We, we definitely recognized our teachers and our students. And I believe, you know, you fund what you also say is important. Um, so I've spoken to our director for food and nutrition, and I know I brought this topic up before, but now I actually have numbers and data. And we have our 10, uh, schools, public schools here in the city. And another, uh, I'll also say this too, cause we are a little competitive here. Uh, there is another small, I think they're a town. Um, they have agreed to make sure that every student in their town does not go hungry and, and can have lunch and a full lunch paid for. Um, I'm asking that we make that same commitment here in, in the city of plantation. And right now there is currently a need for, and for our 10 schools of approximately $8,800. Um, I know, uh, after reviewing our budget exactly where we can find this money. Um, I'm sure miss Otaniano knows exactly which line items to we can find it. Uh, and I'm always willing to go first. There's a line item for me for travel to go to Tallahassee or to conferences. I have not taken advantage of any of that in the five years that I've been here. We can start with my own personal line item, but I would like to be able to ensure that our students in the city of plantation. Do not ever miss lunch and go hungry. So again, um, I don't know how my colleagues feel. Uh, I know in the past EAB had asked for funding. We weren't able to meet some of their requests, but, um, I would like to be able to move this forward. I'll start with just a question in terms of the $8,800 need that you've identified. Um, can you elaborate as to where that information is coming from and, and, um, who are the, I mean, I don't know how you can describe better in terms of who, who needs, who's. I just received it today. So what I will do is send it to Mr. Noonamaker as well as Ms. Begaro so she can share it with everybody. But it's a breakdown from our food and nutrition department and it details for each school, um, the current negative balances that they have right now. And communities are being asked if you've, I don't want to go like draw this out, but, um, if you have followed what's been happening, um, we lost, uh, funding. Cause previous to this year, students did eat breakfast and lunch for free. That model has changed and now students have to pay, especially if they don't qualify or complete the application for free and reduced lunch. So our schools, all 10 of them, um, have some dollar amount of a negative balance. Um, you know, they're all different ranges, but the total for all 10 and of course we're not even halfway through the year. Right. But the, the balance, the negative balance right now after the first quarter, if you will, is about 8,800. And, uh, the 8,800 when you refer to, um, where you received it, that's from a school board department. It's not correct. This is from our food and nutrition department for the district. They manage all of that. And I'm wondering, um, not that, uh, I would be against some discussion as to where, if there are funds. I know in the past, um, the mayor's mentioned that there are some mayor discretionary funds. I, I, I don't know anything about that. Um, I kind of throw that out there to see if maybe there is some funds that are available. Better getting those cakes. He could fund the lunch. Um, but I, I do wonder though. I do wonder though as to the mayor, was there something further? Mr. President. Not yet. One second. Um, I just want my, my other question though, is in terms of the, um, the reach out to the, the PTOs and the PTAs. Um, obviously they do a lot already, um, and I've seen that they, they struggle. Um, I know that, um, there are some new efforts with the banners that we are seeing now. Um, I'm wondering as to whether or not you are seeing that in any of the schools that there are new efforts to assist with the funding at each of the schools through the, the different, um, organizations there. Um, there are lots of efforts going on multiple efforts. Um, even with our Broward education foundation, individual people, businesses can go and donate to a specific school or group of schools. Um, so there it's being attacked from lots of different ways. So, uh, I think I answered. Yeah, no, you did. And, um, you know, again, I just, it's the first time I've heard you ask this request. And I'm just thinking out loud is that, um, you know, there, there may be also some businesses that would want to be the funder of the program and, um, they can get a banner with it too. And, um, you know, it just seems that, uh, I, I would love to see. Two separate things. Correct. It is. No, it is. Of course it is. But the acknowledgement of funding, um, from private sources, um, I, I would like to see some, some promotion in the private sector to see where there may be an interest to fund this before. Um, I, I, I'd want to make a commitment of, um, funds from our, our general operating budget. Um, Mr. Noonmaker, I think you want to. I just want to remind y'all we had a brief discussion during the budget process about this. So we did set aside a little bit of funds, um, and I think the discussion at the time was to see what the amount is. Um, because I think it was, uh, council member Anderson said it, you know, kind of flows back and forth. And then once we know the final amount, and I think it was either $1,500 or $2,000 that we set aside in the budget for it. So we do have some funds aside. Yeah. I think it was $1,500 and, uh, and I think that was the town of West Park, um, maybe that had, had made that decision to, to fund, um, their, the, the, the school lunches. And, um, you know, obviously a much smaller size, um, than, than ours. But, uh, I, I appreciate you bringing it forward. I, I, I'd like to see us see what we can do to promote it in the private sector before making that commitment. Um, council member Horland. I'd just like to make a comment since council member Andrea did ask for a consensus and I appreciate you bringing it up. And I think we're all sympathetic to it as we had talked about during the budget process. Um, personally, I had reached out a couple of years ago to the business community when Peter's elementary was running a deficit and the business community stepped up. So I agree that I think that we need to learn, uh, lean on our business partners. Um, I would not be comfortable, uh, with the city, uh, committing the 8,800. I think that if we have a little bit of funding that we can, um, help support. And I think in the political climate that we're in, in the state right now, this is the type of thing that would get us enhanced scrutiny with our, um, our budget. So, um, I would be, um, more comfortable, um, in a supportive role. Um, but definitely maybe connecting those schools to the chamber who stepped up previously and the business community. So thank you, Mr. President. All right. May I add on? Oops. Councilman Anderson. Just, uh, I also just keep in mind, uh, Jennifer, this is about, you know, mid August to mid October is about two months. So this is one fifth of the school year. You have five times that much. And it usually ramps up worse as the holidays hit and the year drags on. So you're talking five or six times that amount probably for the year. So it would, you might be, you know, 50, $60,000, not $8,000. This is the first quarter. So. Well, it will be August till. But. Yeah. Yeah. We've already done the, we're. August. It was mid August to mid October. So this is the first quarter, but yeah, we don't know what it will be for the remainder of the year. You're, you're absolutely right. But, um, if we can, I, I totally agree with you. Uh, if we can just continue then to promote and, and talk to our business community. Um, as we go out, uh, I think everything helps. Yeah. And I, I understand your point also, council member Horland. So, uh, last but not least, um, the car wash and cookout fundraiser at Seminole Middle to support the arts will be Saturday, October 25th. At nine o'clock. So go get your car washed and, uh, have some hot dogs and hamburgers with them. And the Sierra club also Saturday from two 32, I think five o'clock is doing, we talked about trash earlier. What do we do with our trash? Uh, down on Fort Lauderdale, 25, 20 Northwest six street. Those conclude all of my comments. Thank you. Thank you very much. Council member Fadgen. Thank you. Council president. President, Ryan steam. Um, so I was going like all of us, whereas going to, uh, wish my condolences to Owen, Owen's family and his, uh, family and friends, his business partners. You know, he was a long time staple of, of the city. He was an appointment of my father. He became an appointment of mine. Um, I would say that I had a little, uh, one of my last conversations with them was a hot conversation. conversation he wouldn't listen to me so he'll be dearly missed I enjoyed seeing him at the Midtown meetings he was he brought a perspective that that's that's gonna be missed and a sad time for the city went out the fall festival great job I think we had good numbers everyone looked like I had a good time the lines weren't too long to get in so good job on that someone dived in to take a look at my my name tag to make sure who I was because I wasn't reaching for my wallet so Sunday I went to the plantation garden club high tea now that was a very nice event they had some singers from some high schools and they were they were absolutely spectacular I took my mom and I had to leave a little bit earlier to get back to the office like I normally do and they were shocked that she was my mom they thought she was my wife and I don't know if that means that she's looking really really really good or I'm looking really really really bad I'm gonna go with her looking looking really really good so the other thing yesterday I was talking to Danny you want to come up regarding the little things we could you know that I was asking you about regarding Airbnbs and about adding that extra wordage into their actual descriptions regarding like capacity and how many cars can be there you said that is in the ordinance already we don't need to add it so I know like in the in the listings they they put like how many rooms and then how many how many people they're allowed to put in there but I think I was what I was talking to you yesterday after the the the outreach that we did at the PAHA that I think it needs to be explicit wording actually in the narrative of the of the listing yeah so we are looking at the listings to make sure that they are consistent with the occupancy requirements with regard to parking we don't have the parking information I think what I'm suggesting since there's very little we can do and yesterday's presentation was an excellent presentation because it's like every time something happens we're we're re-explaining it not re-explain it but explain it to someone who's not aware of it until it affects them so I that that was a good presentation but I'm just saying like you know for it to be in the you know as they're describing the property in the best possible way to say you know you know you're only allowed to have 8 plus 1.5 and you're only allowed to park this many cars and the city's gonna enforce it right I don't know if we can just put that wording in there you know I talked to the city clerk not the clerk city city attorney about it and he was I think you were saying that maybe there's a First Amendment problem with that we'd have to do some research because there's I've seen some cases that have been decided on First Amendment grounds where a government entity is requiring disclosure of certainly willing for someone to challenge us on it but and you know we do continue to monitor litigation throughout the state on these vacation rentals and if we learn of anything we always you know report on it so I just want to see if we can get that wording you know and even if they don't do it it's something it's a reactionary thing so when an incident does occur then we review their things and we say okay you weren't in compliance with this so it's another opportunity for us to say you weren't in compliance with our right our ordinance because I don't think that's an overbearing kind of right so I said yeah so I think I understand what you're saying so in addition to occupancy I just wanted to make sure I understand fully you would like for us to list like what they'll prove in terms of number of parking spaces you can only have X amount of cars so maybe that'll scare people away just from the standpoint of oh okay where are we going to park when we want to have 30 people come there for whatever they're doing out there shooting the place up so the other thing is I would the the company that we utilize that looks for the unregistered business tax receipt for the Airbnb is within the non-registered business tax receipts can they provide us on the same service for those Turo you know which is those privately car rental because if you go on their website are you familiar I'm very familiar with Turo I don't think that they scrub for a Turo data though under there's a lot of plantation right so well as I told you we are going to be looking at there is a model out there that might help with your second question with Turo and some of the unregistered businesses so there are companies as I mentioned to you before when we talked about the BTR that provide a service where they kind of do very similar to what the Granicus does with short-term rental where they help cities and cities usually do this audit every so many years as I indicated to you where they'll help them identify businesses because their businesses that they just they open up they go to Google and advertise or they do that they're not going through their traditional methods they may not necessarily be advertised through the state or what have you they might never organize they might just be sole proprietors right so they so they look at all this various types of data and they try to identify okay who's operating you know in your city I just want that the Turo businesses out there to also include it and if that's the case that's fine um that's all I have appreciate it thank you and oh um I thought that was a well um a very good presentation last night so my my compliments to administration it was informative you know and I think people understand like how difficult it is for us to to regulate the action that we really want to take about it so um good job everyone thank you yeah thank you councilmember Fadgin I'm going to go next because I did want to um follow up regarding the short-term vacation rental presentation um I I apologize I was not there to hear the presentation but I did hear some follow-up from some residents who um wanted a little more insight in regards to our magistrates and how you know is there a direction that we give our magistrates in terms of um the city's position regarding uh fine forgiveness and waiver and I was hoping that the administration can give us a brief comment on that please yeah we meet routinely with the magistrates to to provide that feedback particularly after there was one incident where there was a fine reduction that was a cause of some concern and since then I think things have been fairly tight and we also collaborate with our residents if there's a particularly egregious and staff uh violation where administration will send a letter to the magistrates urging no relief um so yes yes and and a follow-up to that is that not not necessarily just in terms of the short-term vacation rentals but in terms of our magistrates and their um the turnaround time from when a citation is uh is given and when a hearing is set um in terms of you know what are we seeing is the the the turnaround time from when a citation is left uh for a resident and when is it coming before the magistrate so that we have some type of general um requirement that it's that it's set to be her absent extensions or continuances um is there what is that general response it's data to respond on the time frames unless you're talking about from when the magistrate issues an order no i'll give you so an example is that um i there's a there's a there's a home not too far from here where um resident was regularly parking on the swale and um they were cited for it and i had a resident ask well they've been cited for it but they're still parking on the swale and um since the since the hearing wasn't for so far off he just moves and it starts again no he just kept it there there was no reason for him to move it because the code violation was issued and he didn't have a hearing on it for 30 days six whatever the time period was so there's no you know if it's not moved quicker sorry that there's no incentive for him to move it because there's no there's no hearing on it just yet um well i think those are statutory guideline processes that invite daniel to comment on but we also want to look at exploring more expedient uh remedies like tickets so that that's going to be on the spot but i invite mr holmes to talk about your particular question so well as you know there are many different code enforcement falls under several different umbrellas so i don't want to speak completely for the code enforcement department but i think for a lot of different types of violations we try to weigh what's required to correct it and we you know there's uh ample time so let's just use that example but yeah but in terms of the like the short-term rentals or what have you we find that that's something that can be corrected uh pretty quickly so let's just use the one example that i'm giving because i instead of you know speaking more um generally is that example was a parking yeah it's a um part residents parking on using their their grass their front lawn right as a parking spot right right i i don't really want because that doesn't fall within uh planning and zoning so i don't i didn't call you on mr noonamaker if i could just interject so this is a statutory process under 162 um absent certain circumstances like there's a repeat violation or there's an irreparable irreversible or a um a health safety issue uh they are required to provide uh a courtesy notice okay so courtesy notice reasonable time to comply they don't comply then they're required to issue a notice of violation set it for hearing the hearing has to be at least 30 days out okay so that that's that's really the question that i have perfect thank you for understanding what i was asking lawyer to lawyer thank you very good um so um chief um and before but since you only said ditto before you sit down um i wanted to actually make sure to mention that i i attended the crime watch meeting last week and i want to give um a extra um attention to officer uh lewis rivera did a wonderful job he had a packed house uh and it just so happened that um local 10 news was there because they wanted to focus on on him wearing his um his body cam uh and they actually didn't want to hear anything else that he said but they wanted to just get a picture of him wearing the body cam but he was great and so i wanted to pass that on and i also wanted to publicly say that you know what all of our departments are doing in terms of social media and forward facing is wonderful the police department is doing an exceptional job i had just pulled from earlier today reading that there was a a suspect with a multiple out of county warrants arrested after fleeing from officers just um wednesday today wednesday october 22nd and um you know it's to most people don't get to hear what happens day in and day out and you know when we talk about we talk about our budget and we talk about um how much goes towards our police department and we talk about public service you know listen it's it's a fact that seeing this um gives us the ability to tell our residents that this is where it's going and we're they are extremely responsive so thank you to your police department and please pass that on as well and and thank you for for mentioning that officer dorfman is our uh strategic communications officer and i can tell you he loves what he does and he has a passion for it he he stays up at night thinking of ways to to put the message out so and even officer rivera takes pride in what he does and it shows and uh but thank you yeah no no and um and you know and i uh one more point in terms of what some of what mr dorfman is putting out is that what ari dorfman is putting out is that you know when we talk about community policing you know most people don't interact with our community police officers um but the way that he's putting out and highlighting individuals um gets us to get to meet our officers in a way that um we we would not otherwise get to so we try to humanize ourselves yeah because everybody looks at us one way and oh we're people too so uh it's a great program yeah thank you yes uh thank you chief the last thing i want to mention is that um this saturday is uh honor flight of south florida it's one of their homecomings uh if you are not familiar with honor flight is probably one of the most amazing things you will see in terms of the welcoming of veterans uh after a full day in washington dc visiting memorials the veterans come um they are they come back into fort lauderdale airport and the the sole purpose is to give our veterans a welcome home that many of them never received and uh it's it's vietnam veterans there's usually even at least one world war ii veteran uh there are korean war veterans there are um veterans from from all um all activities in our armed forces and if you are available at around between it's usually between 7 pm and maybe 9 30 pm is really the window of time with 8 pm usually when the the flights arrive all you have to do is go to fort lauderdale airport it's the spirit airlines terminal and you know bring an american flag wear some red white and blue and bring your kids bring bring whoever you can to cheer on our veterans as they return from the honor flight so thank you councilmember horland thank you mr president i know it's late um i do have a couple updates and councilmember fadgen i'm glad you mentioned last night's meeting with paha administration planning department and pd did a great job and i think there was a lot of valuable information that was disseminated um i realized i was going to give you these updates but florida policy florida league of cities policy meetings in um orlando last friday broward planning council south florida planning regional planning council and yesterday's legislative delegation meeting with broward league of cities and um broward city manager association i'm not going to tell you everything that went on but what i will tell you is there were two um topics that were the hot topics at all five of those things and that was senate bill 180 um which is preempting a lot of our planning and preventing us from accomplishing what we need to accomplish in the city and ad valorem taxes so uh you may know that the speaker came out with six to eight proposals there may be multiple things on the ballot and i would venture to say um that there will be more proposals coming out from other legislators so um they're going to be trying times i'm not going to go into all the details now because we don't know what they'll look like but i think that we just need to stay on our toes um the only good news that i have with sb 180 is the bill sponsor from last year nick de segle has come out and said publicly you know what i realize there are some issues unintended consequences so we hope they're going to reel that back with a glitch bill um but i did want to say and kudos really to council member andreo and to our finance department at the legislative delegation meeting yesterday the county had presented before we did and they came in with their um you know county budget you know because of the dozing too and try to get this information out and um our senator rosalyn osgood said every one of you should be doing this well um we got everybody got this in their water bill so we've been doing this for a couple years ago it was your initiative thank you for bringing up council member andreo and for finance for putting this together um so beautifully so um what we're trying to do again and i've said it here is trying to encourage the 31 municipalities and actually the 411 in the state to tell their stories because they're coming after um they're coming after our revenue and um we don't know what that's going to look like um i did you know wanted to give you those updates but i do want to say given the conversation tonight um i do want to be on go on the record saying that we can always do better um but we continually clean up messes from a prior administration and i want to say that i have confidence in all of you i have confidence in this city government i'm proud of this city government and proud to represent it and i have confidence in our cio and administration and the ability to admit mistakes and errors when they're made and improve the processes and i know that we will continue to do that going forward and my last thing is a little bit of good news the south plantation high school girls bowling team for the second year in the row they win their districts and they are going to orlando next year for states uh with their top bowler miss sophia monofusco so we'll be cheering on the paladin girl bowlers next week and we wish them the best of luck at states so thank you mr president that's all i have is there a proud father in the back that related to um there may just there may be okay councilmember anderson nothing for me have a great evening everybody uh with that at 10 0 9 p.m thank you everyone meeting adjourned