Hi, everyone. As soon as all our members take their seats, we'll go ahead and get started. And I see Mr. Delaney walking in. As soon as he gets seated, we're going to start off with introductions, starting with that side, please. No pressure, Mr. Delaney. Good afternoon, y'all. Bill Delaney, Mayor's Office. Brandon Russell, Council Research. Mary Stifopoulos, Office of General Counsel. Heather Reber, Council Auditor's Office. Good afternoon, Michael Boylan, District 6. Good afternoon, Chris Miller, At-Large Group 5. And I should have mentioned this. Welcome to the Monday, August 3rd, Neighborhoods, Community Services, Public Health and Safety Committee meeting. Kevin Carrico, Councilmember, District 4. Good afternoon, Jimmy Peluso, District 7. Randy White, District 12, just visiting. And we have one more here. Yes, Chair. I'm sorry, I was down. Yeah, Matt Carlucci, At-Large Group 4. Sorry, I was down there. Oh, that's fine. Trying to wrap up something. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay, well, we'll now go to public comments. So if we can take up the public comment cards. Also joining us is Councilmember Tyrone Clark-Murray, the Vice Chair. So we'll have a good crew here. And I just want to remind Mr. Oliver and anyone else who will be speaking today, please stay on the bills that we're taking up today. If you can focus your comments on the bills that are up for consideration today, that would be much appreciated. Otherwise, I'll remind you of that. So we have two cards. We'll start with Mr. Carnell Oliver. It's your time at the podium, sir. Yes, my name is Carnell Oliver. Address is on file. I want to get more to the nuts and bolts of the city and where I look at how funding affects communities, especially American freedmen communities. The two line items is 0535, 536, and 0377. It covers heritage communities. It covers voting rights. One of my things is that in order to make a movement where dollars respect key interest groups is that we have got to put policy in place. Let me look, for example, District 7. District 7 is one of the most underappreciated districts because this district has the largest community base of foundational Black Americans. It's got underserved communities, and it has the well-off communities. When it comes down to taxpayer resources, the higher-income community is getting the bulk share. And it makes me question about maybe we need to split that district up into two separate districts, and we apply some significant guidelines of 85% representation throughout this city as a whole. So, Mr. Oliver, sorry to interrupt you, but so we can stay focused up here, which bill are you referring to now? The bill that I'm referring to is Bill 0535, 0536, 0377. When I talk about investment, I'm talking about people. And when I look at the body of the representation of this community, we don't get no clarity. There's no understanding. And I think that we need to have a conversation about breaking down these district seats and applying a compliance of an 85%. It puts a hard cap on how many people a member of the city council can represent and deal with campaign finance laws. Mr. Oliver, I was trying to give you a lot of latitude there, and you haven't said one specific thing about the bills we're taking up today. So, thank you very much for your comments. Appreciate it. We'll go next to Mr. John Nooney. Hello. I am John. Philanthropic, Jelly Roll, Resiliency, Good Boy Nooney, 8356, Pascombe Road, Jacksonville, Florida, 32216. Trust, Scott Wilson, Kevin Carrico, 2025, 26, excuse me, 0552. District 4, CPAC 3, Raymond Day, Jose Gonzalez, Rosemary Wazlowski, School Board District 3. Cindy Pearson, 2025, 0867, CIP, True Commission, Wendy Kahn, Classrooms in Pottsburg Charter School, Public School, Field Trip Park. That's brilliant. Okay, I'll be talking about agenda items. 1, 2, 6, 8, 9, 10, 16, 2026, 0552. You know, it's not in waterways. JRA. Hey, the Jacksonville Riverfront Alliance, you know, 1 million for maintenance, 682, 318. You know, you got two parts. You know, scrap the second one. Agenda items, 1920, 21, 2026, 0574, JSEB stuff, neighborhoods, TEU, finance. You know, send that one to waterways. You got the Coast Guard, Merchant Marines, FWC, JSO Marine Unit. Agenda items, 22, 25, 26, 2026, 0580. That's Boylan, Deep Bottom Creek. You got $750,000. BBB, Build Back Better. BBB, Bring Back Boylan. I mean, this is powerful legislation. You know, it also should be in waterways. And, you know, I got to give it to them. In fact, you know, I'll read from the agenda. You know, upon completion of this bill, we'll provide funding of $750,000 for the Deep Bottom Creek Dredging Project. Upon completion of the project, the Deep Bottom Creek Special District will be responsible for maintaining the creek as provided in ordinance 2022-49E, which establishes a special district for this purpose. You know, I'm just down to 59 seconds. But, also, I will be making two donations. You know, one will be, you know, for the Park Trust Fund, 2026-0004. The other one, it's the Movie Trust Fund. Spielberg, call me, man. You know, we're making a movie, 2026-0396. You know, that ET one, we're redoing it in Duval County. But, down to 30-some seconds. But, you know, let's just get back to that, the Jacksonville Riverfront Alliance. You know what? Scrap that 682. 50,000 should immediately go to the three trust funds that have been established by this council. Veterans, parks, the movies. And then split up the other 50 for 2025-0867, which is the Duval County Public Schools. And, yeah, classrooms in America. You know, scrap it. Thank you, Mr. Moody. All right. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Our last speaker is Ms. Dragon Beloy. And, again, reminder, let's please speak to the bills we'll be considering today. Hi. Thank you so much. So, I have two bills that I want to speak on specifically. Dragon Beloy, address on file. I don't know if I need to do that here. Yeah, you're good. Thank you. Okay. I really like 0536. I think we should reward people that are – that sounds great. 536, big yes. 537, big no. Why are we just okaying them not complying and taking them off the noncompliance list? If they didn't comply, we should treat them like everybody else. I don't care if they're the order of police. There are specific rules that are supposed to be followed. If they break those rules, we should hold them to it, right? That's what it's meant to be. That's what this is meant to be about. I also really enjoyed specifically 0542, the expenditure to Solzbacher Center. Solzbacher Center does really good work. I work in the area. I don't work for Solzbacher, but Solzbacher does good work, and the work that they've done, very good. I think I should get that. I know that that's a little bit different because you guys usually do the competitive stuff, but I approve of 542. I very much approve of the other one listed, what, 536. I'm very against 537 for the reasons listed. Also, this is the place we're supposed to talk about this stuff. There are so many people that are so worried about flawed cameras. Please be worried about that more often. Thank you very much. Bye. Thank you. We're going to first start out. JSO has asked if we could take up item number 30 first. So we're going to go to page 17 and take up item 30. Then after we've done that, then we'll go to the front of the agenda and move our way the whole way through the agenda. So item number 30, page 17, 2026-0586. We have a motion and second on the emergency. Would you please, Ms. Reber, explain the emergency? Sure. The emergency is due to the current District 3 substation lease that will expire November 7, 2026, and the Sheriff's Office will need to complete a build-out of the new lease space. Okay. Thank you. We have Council Member Paluso. You're recognized? Thank you, Chair. Have we voted on the emergency yet, or are we just voted on the emergency? Yeah, we're on the bill now. No, I just wanted to see if I could talk with anyone from JSO to find out where was the current... Can you speak on the emergency, or you're saying we need to vote on it? Mr. Chair, if his comments are pertinent to the emergency, that's fine. But if he has questions relative to the bill, you should vote on the emergency first. I apologize. I thought we voted on the emergency. Okay. Thank you. All those in favor of the emergency, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The emergency passes. We have a motion and second on the bill as an emergency. Okay. Mr. Paluso, you recognize. Thank you, Chair. Yeah, if JSO can kind of come up. Just trying to find out where is the current substation, or is this a brand new one? Just because, like, of population expansion in the area, something along those lines. Yeah. Go ahead. Tyler Rapport with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. I'm here with Commander Archibald over services. The current District 3 substation is located at 8875 Liberty Ridge Drive, Suite 110. The lease, as written in the legislation, will be expiring November 7th. So we're looking to get into a new contract at a new location and get that built out before the current lease expires. The new one will be at 8301 Cypress Plaza Drive. Sure. And just to, what's the current rent now? Is this going to be a similar style rent, or is it going to be much more of an increase? So right now, at the current space, we're only paying for the amenities. There currently is no rent at this time. Would you, did you introduce yourself? Oh, I'm so sorry. Newtia Archibald, Commander, Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. Okay, thank you. Understood. All right, so this is, so you've got a current free space. Is there any reason why you can't remain there anymore? Just the landlord's ready to move on? Yes, sir. So Dream Finders is currently the owner of the building. They are actually applying for a permit to build other apartments and condos in the area, and they are not extending our lease at this time. Understood. All right, thank you. We'll next go to Council Member Boylan. You recognize? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, Mr. Commander Archibald. The new location is three miles north of the present location? Approximately three miles, yes, sir. I was challenged by one of my colleagues yesterday about fighting for Mandarin. Mandarin, obviously Mandarin is part of District 3, and you're moving this location further north, out away from the district. Could you, was there a thought to finding a more central location to the district for the zone? Yes, sir. So this process has been taking place for approximately two years to find a location for the substation that was reasonable in pricing, as well as access for parking and other, and for the public as well. So this place that we currently located at 8301 Cypress is very forward-facing to the public, right off of Phillips Highway, and there's plenty of parking, ADA accommodations, and basically a better footprint for those that are coming into the District 3 area to locate us and find us easily. Well, what do I tell my constituents to say they're moving even further away than they were before? I appreciate your comments, but what you're paying in rent here, and plus for the amenities, it sounds like a pretty competitive number that I would expect you could find other locations that are more central to the district or the zone. Well, since we are approximately three miles from our current location, we wanted to remain in that same footprint. I did look in, personally, when I took over the project, did look in various areas, but we wanted to make sure that we still had access to downtown, as well as not being too far away from our current location where the public knows us to be at. Well, Mr. Chair, I would have been remiss if I didn't speak to the concerns my constituents that have seeing the substation moving even further north. But thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. We'll next go to Vice Chair Clark-Murray. You recognize? Thank you, Chair. Good afternoon to the two of you. My question revolves around the rent. So the rent that you're going from paying nothing to paying $12,000-so dollars, is that the average rent that JSO pays in regards to district centers or substations throughout the city? Each substation is a separate lease. So depending on where it is located, that is, you know, negotiated with the landlord. So based on, through the chair, so based on what you're saying is that this is not necessarily higher than others or lower than others. It just depends upon the location and where you choose or where you choose to place a substation. What is available for us. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Thank you for that. Through the chair to the auditors, do you have an average or do you know what the average cost is of the substations that JSO, where they lease space for a substation? Through the chair to Councilmember Clark-Murray, I do not have that information. Is that, through the chair, is that, is it available anywhere or is it possible for us to get that information? Through the chair to Councilmember Clark-Murray, I would ask the sheriff's office for that information. We could get that to you. All right, please do, because it just seems, first of all, I like the idea that there was zero dollars before, and now we're going to $12,000 and some odd dollars. So once again, I do want to acknowledge the concerns that Councilmember Boylan has, because that's part of his district as well. But thank you so much for answering my question. Thank you, Chair. We're going next to past President Salem. You're recognized. Thank you, Chair. Through the chair to either one of you. We have gotten completely away from these stop stations that I think were an initiative of, I think it was Sheriff Glover, storefronts, just that kind of thing. So we now have six of these several thousand square feet stations. Is that correct? Hello, sir. Yes, so the stop stations are not intended for the public to visit because they're not always manned. The stop stations are placed in different areas of the city where officers can utilize those services. And it's usually by the actual business that is providing those spaces. That is no cost to JSO. Now, a substation, now that is our operations. That is where, you know, we have our commander. That's where the admin lieutenants are at. That's where we have our sheriff's watch meetings. So it is a structure that we, it is needed in each district in order to be operationally functioned within that area that it represents. Now, I'm not questioning the need for your substations. I'm just trying to understand, do we still have the stop stations? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You do. And they vary depending on the area of town, I'm assuming. And so they're still utilized. Yes, sir. Very much so. Yes, sir. And if through the chair to Councilman Salem, if any business wanted to offer up their space as a stop station, they can also still do that. And we can consider putting one there as well. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you. We'll go next to Councilmember Paluso. You recognize? Thank you, Mr. President. I think some of the consternation you might be hearing is obviously we're going from a free site to over $150,000 a year, 10-year lease, that's $1.5 million. I'd almost rather you build your own building, frankly. But beyond that, I mean, I know that I have a few stop stations in my district. Well, I've got three districts within my city council district. They do a great job going to them. But, I mean, it definitely does seem like a lot. And obviously I think none of us want to not support this, especially if you're going to get kicked out of your current location by November. I think this is more along the lines of talk to these council members early and often. Many of us know our districts quite well and know where there could be a landlord or a potential space that could be substantially cheaper, if not free. I know in my district there's plenty of places where we could probably make sure JSO gets to. So just keep us more in the loop. I feel like we're a few months away, and we're only just now kind of hearing about this. But that's just kind of my thoughts. Thank you. And the last speaker is past president Carrico. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through the chair of the auditor, this bill doesn't ask for any more money, does it? Through the chair to Councilmember Carrico, no, we are not appropriating dollars. Thank you. So we're just allowing them to execute a lease. They've done their due diligence. I think they have the ability to do that, go find what's best for them that suits them. We don't need to be nitpicking this. I mean, I appreciate everyone's questions, but I think we should just let them do their job and move on. Thanks. Thank you. I think everyone's asked the questions or made the points that I would have made. I'll just add on to that. I agree with what past president Carrico has just said. But I think there's always room for going forward. If we can work well together, and I believe you're doing that, but you've heard here there's a desire to be able to have those conversations and see if we can help you get the right locations in the right mix to work together to assess how do you all best serve the districts by where you're located and also possibly stretch the dollars for the taxpayers. So I think going forward, hopefully that's something we can take away. But I agree funding-wise, and they've done their due diligence, and so I'll be supporting this. Seeing no speakers in the queue, please open about and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0586 as an emergency. We'll now go to the front of the agenda. Thanks, JSO reps. Appreciate it. Item number one, 20-24-0966 is deferred at the request of Council Member Carrico. Number two, 20-25-0361 is deferred at the request of Council Member White. Item three, 20-26-0227 is deferred at the request of Council Member Diamond. Number four, 20-26-0318 is deferred at the request of Council Member Johnson. Number five, 20-26-0320 is deferred at the request of Council Member White. Number six, 20-26-0377 is deferred at the request of Council Member Johnson. And number seven, 20-26-0535. I have a motion second on the amendment. No one in the queue. Ms. Reber, would you please explain the amendment? The amendment will clarify funding, will be used for design for both the projects. It's going to attach a revised Exhibit 1, which is the BT, to correct account information, and attach revised CIP sheets, Exhibit 2, to correct formatting and the Council District. Okay. Thank you. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. I have a motion second on the bill as amended. Anyone wishing to speak, seeing no one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 20-26-0535 as amended. Item number eight, 20-26-0536. We have a motion and a second on the amendment. Ms. Reber, please explain the amendment. The amendment will correct appropriation language within the bill title. It will include carryover language and attaches the grant award letter as a new exhibit. Okay. Thank you. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. We have a motion and a second on the bill as amended. No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 20-26-0536 as amended. We'll now go to item number nine on the next page, 20-26-0537. We have a motion and a second on the bill, and I believe we're going to pass President White. Yes, sir. Thank you, Chair. This is a bill that reads for itself. This has been done before. It's not done very often in the story on this one. It was $200,000 and it was going to cost $15,000 or so to do an audit. But Mr. Kilgrease, if you have any questions, this fund is usually used for fallen firefighter police officers or injured, and they have no employees, and this don't happen very often. I remember several years ago when the bill was in the millions of Tony Paselli Foundation. So the four speakers at the council meeting and the one today, I don't know if they don't have all the information they need or just simply any law enforcement. I'm not sure, but I would appreciate the support on this bill. And Mr. Kilgrease, if you have any questions, could come up and tell you exactly what the foundation does. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. We'll next go to Vice Chair Clark Murray. You recognize? Thank you, Chair. Mr. ... If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Kilgrease is what he said earlier? Okay. Thank you for coming forward. Just go ahead and give your name and information. David Kilgrease. I am the treasurer of the Jacksonville Fraternal Order of Police Foundation. All right. Thank you so much for that. So through the chair, in reading the bill, I noticed that there was an audit that was submitted, but the audit was deficient. Can you tell us a little bit about the deficiencies in the audit? Yes, ma'am. Through the chair, when we first negotiated the contract, we're in our labor contract, 50 sent from each of the officers working off-duty, which we call 1060, comes from the employer and goes into that account, and that account can be reviewed by the council auditor or anyone any time. So what we did was we also have another way of trying to raise additional funds for these same things, which part of that is maybe you've heard of the guns and hoses event that we put on, trying to raise money for charities and such. So when we created the 1060 account, it was specifically for any money that came from that. So when we also were fortunate enough to receive the grant that was through the city, giving us more city funds, it made sense to go through that, put that in that same account. And we did that audit of that account. It read exactly the way the statute required. I've even got the language. But when we turned it in, they told us they wanted to know about everything. And we had already spent $10,000. This was going to be another at least $15,000. We make, we have no salaries. We give no compensation to any of our folks. And we're just trying to do the right thing. And this additional funding, you know, seemed a little bit excessive, especially since we felt we were in compliance. Okay. Thank you so much for that explanation. So what you're saying is that the audit that you submitted to the auditors is, it was, did not cover everything. It just covered some things. So it was deficient in the, in the, in that particular area, that it did not cover all of the aspects or items that the audit should have. To the chair, correct. It, uh, it covered everything that we had received city funds for just not anything that we did to raise money through our charity events. We wanted to keep it separate. So it was easy. So if the council auditors or anyone else from the council wanted to come in and take a look at the books, they wouldn't go, where did this money come from? Where did that money come from to pay for it? If it was all co-mingled, we wanted to do it where it was clean and where anyone could come and see it. And we did do the entire 1060. So it covered every bit of city money that has come into the foundation. Okay. Thank you so much for that. Through the chair to Ms. Reber, do you have any, um, comments in regards to the audit that was submitted by FOP? Um, through the chair to, um, council member Clark Murray, the audit that was provided to our office was a limited scope audit and just on the program dollars that were allocated. It was, what's required in chapter 118 is a financial statement. So because it wasn't what was required by the ordinance code, they're on the noncompliance list. All right. Thank you so much for that. Okay. At this time I'll relinquish the rest of my questions and my time chair. Thank you. But I do want to come back. Thank you. Okay. We'll go next to council member Peluso. You're recognized. Thank you, chair. David, it's always good to see you. Um, thank you. Thank you for, for bringing this bill up to us and thank you for your work on the, um, on the jail, uh, uh, subcommittee that we had many moons ago. You were incredibly helpful for that, especially when we talked about recidivism and different programs in that regard. Uh, I do have a question for Ms. Reber, um, as well. So have we, how many other nonprofits have been taken off the noncompliance list in the past couple of years in recent memory? I remember the Buscelli Foundation, were there a couple others? I feel like there were. Um, through the chair, the Buscelli Foundation was in 1516, fiscal year 1516. Um, no, but right now I know there was one previously a few legislative cycles ago. Then there's this one, and then there's one coming up for next cycle. And what was the, so other than the Buscelli Foundation, what else have we done recently in recent memory? Through the chair to Councilmember Pelluso. So the Buscelli Foundation received forgiveness in 2024. You also had that group forgiveness that was done for the Safety and Crime Reduction Commission, those mini grants that were issued. There were a number of, a number of those recipients that for various reasons ended up on the noncompliance list. So you gave, you granted forgiveness to them because they were such small grants that they were receiving. Um, I'm looking just to see kind of what else pops out in recent legislation. Those are the two primary ones. You have another one pending, um, in committee that's providing forgiveness to Made Away Foundation, Inc. that'll be coming forward shortly. Um, and then there were also a group of, uh, recipients that I think may have gotten forgiveness last year in 2025 for cultural service grants. So there was a tranche of cultural service grant recipients that also ended up on the noncompliance list. And you also provided forgiveness to those agencies as well. Through, that included the symphony and all that, right? Yes. Yeah. That one did include the symphony and WJCT was the other. Understood. Yeah. I remember we've had a couple of these. So, so this, in very recent memory. So I do appreciate that. And the crime and reduction stuff, that was under Councilman, Council, then Council President Sam Newby's, uh, mini grants, right? Yes. There was a group that went through under him. And I think there was a subsequent group that also received mini grants through safety and crime reduction just prior to when that commission, um, sunset. Understood. And through the chair, Ms. Reber, with the, with what they provided in their audit, the lower scope audit, that still has an accounting for all the dollars that were received in public money, correct? Uh, through the chair to Council Member Peluso, yes. It, it accounted for the funds that they received. Out of the 200,000 they received, they received 185 allocated to them. Understood. Through the chair to Mr. Gilcrease, do you know if the, if FOP is intending to apply for more grants in the future from the city? Or is this just kind of a, hey, we want to make sure we're clean in the event of future? I'm sorry. I, I, I'm not sure President Reeves was going to try to make it and he might have known, but I'm, I'm not a hundred percent sure. Understood. Knowing that, that we've seen a number of these come by, especially like, I know I voted on a few of them, so, so I understand and I'm perfectly satisfied at this moment. Thank you. Thank you. We'll, we'll go next to past President Salem. You recognize? Thank you, Chair. Through the chair. David, I'm going to support this, but I do want to clarify for myself some of the things I've heard. You've got this fund. You keep the city contribution separate from the boxing and all those things. So you've, you know, two different ledgers for a lack of a better term. And you submitted the expenses on the 200 to the auditors. Is that correct? Through the chair? Yes. As well as the money from the contracts. That was, I believe it covered both. It covered the boxing as well? No, no, no. I'm sorry. I was, no, I was thinking of the money from the overtime that the officers paid, but we did not include that. So you submitted the expenses on the 200 to the auditors. Yes, sir. Now, I heard something about 185 versus 200. Can someone clarify that for me, Ms. Reber? Yes. Through the chair to Council Member Salem, out of the 200,000 that was budgeted to go to FOP, they only received 185,000. That's all we get. I know I was, I think, finance chairman when that occurred under President White, and I think we compromised and took a percentage off each contribution. So they submitted $185,000 in expenses to you. Is that correct? That is correct. Okay. What is the difference? You used a technical term a few minutes ago. You were looking for a financial audit or something versus what they submitted. Can you outline for me the difference? Through the chair to Council Member Salem, a financial audit would follow accounting principles and would be an audit of their organization as a whole. Where this was just a limited scope on the actual expenditures of the program. Well, the financial audit that you're describing would include the 200 as well as all the money from the boxing and everything else. Correct. Okay. Is that really necessary? No. Thinking that we're only sending the, we only gave them 185. It just seems intrusive to me for them to have to comply with an audit. I mean, I would, if I had a company and they wanted something that was not related to my company, I'd take offense to that. Through the chair, we're just following what's required in the code of Chapter 118. So, since they were budgeted to receive $200,000, and because it's over that $100,000 threshold, that's required. So, what does the code say specifically? You have to submit a financial audit on the whole entity? So, if a recipient is to receive an amount from $100,000 to less than the single audit threshold, which is a million, so between $100,000 and a million, they would submit an audit report in accordance with generally accepted auditing standards. So, generally accepted operating standards. Auditing standards means, as a CPA, means the whole organization. That is correct. I just, I think we need to change that. That's my feeling. I think this is offensive. It's more than what we should be doing. I'm going to vote for it. And if anyone's interested in working with me, we need to change that. Thank you. Thank you. We'll go next to Vice Chair Clark Murray. You recognize? Thank you, Chair. Through the chair, to the committee, and to Mr. Kilgries. First of all, I appreciate the fact that FOP actually submitted an audit. Several of the nonprofits and other organizations that have been in this same position with the same type of bill, wanting forgiveness, have submitted nothing. So, with that being said, I am going to be in support. I do agree with Council Member Salem that maybe the audit ordinance needs to be changed so that they don't necessarily have to look at everything, but just those aspects of how they spent the dollars that were submitted to them through the city or through the city. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. We'll go next to Council Member Boylan. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I concur with the comments of both of Council Member Clark Murray and Sam with respect to the necessity of doing an overall audit of an organization in this process. By approving this ordinance, certainly, and I know you couldn't mention, David, about whether or not there's an interest in the part of FOP to pursue another grant in this process. I suspect this may alter that in that process. But I don't think it's unreasonable for us to support this forgiveness, recognizing if FOP decide to come back from additional funding, it'll be brought up. We'll make it clear what is going to be required in terms of an audit going forward, and I think it would make sense for us to do that. And I like the idea of saying, hey, look, for grants, even of this size, show us how you spent the money, pure and simple. And that's really what you did. And I think, and I do appreciate the ordinances in place. We may need to impact and change the ordinance to reflect, acknowledging that an organization like yours, like FOP, you know, just show us how you spent the dollars, and I think we're going to be, we'll be fine. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Stepopolis, do you recognize? Thank you. Through the chair, to go back to the question that Council Member Peluso had asked earlier on, I just want to clarify something for the record. Ms. Figueroa had confirmed for me that the tranche of microgrants that was, that had a number that were receiving forgiveness wasn't safety and crime reduction. It was actually the PSG microgrant category, where they had a number of small entities that ended up on the noncompliance list. And that is the group that was forgiven in 2025. Thank you for that clarification. And we'll go back to Vice Chair Clark-Murray, who recognized. Thank you, Chair. Through the chair, to Ms. Stepopolis, and really to the entire committee, one of the reasons why I voted for that particular bill was the fact that many of those non-profits do not have the dollars that are necessary to conduct audits, and a portion of the money that they receive from the city can't be used for the audit. So maybe that's something that we can also consider looking at the different tranches of monies. Thank you, Chair. Through the chair, that is somewhat already addressed in the code, Vice Chair Clark-Murray. So if they receive a very small amount of money, they're not required to pursue a full audit, like the ones that receive hundreds of thousands of dollars. And our audit limits and what type of reporting is required are tied back to the Code of Federal Regulations for different levels of funding. So we do have that tiered structure in place in the code, but happy to talk to you more about it if you want to talk more. Thank you. Seeing no one else in the queue, I'm satisfied with what I've heard, both now and I think the need to take a look at the road forward. So thank you all for those discussions. Please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 20-26-0537. Item 10, 20-26-0538. I have a motion and a second on the bill. Seeing no one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 20-26-0538. Item 11, 20-26-0539. I have a motion and a second on the bill. No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 20-26-0539. Item 12, 20-26-0540. Do I have a motion? I have a motion and a second on the bill. No one in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 20-26-0540. Item number 13, 20-26-0541 is deferred at the request of the Downtown Investment Authority. Item 14, 20-26-0542. I have a motion and a second on the amendment. Ms. Reaver, would you please explain the amendment? The amendment will revise the contract term to October 1, 2026 to September 30, 2027. It will attach a revised Exhibit 1, which is the term sheet, to revise the payment terms to a reimbursement of $1,022.14 per month per additional bed and a one-time reimbursement of $21,398.24 for equipment and supplies. It will update deliverables, remove the line item budget, revise the contract term, and remove Chapter 118 reporting language, and then include carryover language within the bill. Thank you. Is this on the amendment, Council Member Palooza? Okay. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. We have a motion and second on the bill as amended. We'll go to Council Member Palooza. You're recognized. Thank you, Chair. And just for everyone's knowledge, this is from the HIC. So as we've noticed in the past, it's taken a while to finally get these dollars out because of the process. This is how the process has been laid out. So this is before us, it's from the HIC, and I'm very grateful that we're looking at this. I will also say, please add myself as a co-sponsor. Thank you. Thank you. We'll next go to past President Salem. You're recognized. Thank you, Chair. I said this in rules this morning. Having been involved in this endeavor for the last, since then-Council President White got me engaged in this, probably the biggest need we have in this community right now are female homeless beds. And what this does is correct that, gives us 32 beds at Sulzbacher. If you've spoken to Captain Paramore, who heads up the PATH team, she'll tell you this is the most critical need we have out there. She has nowhere to place females quite often, and hopefully this will go a long way to correct that. Thank you. We'll go next to Vice Chair Clark Murray. You're recognized. Thank you, Chair. I also want to be added as a co-sponsor, and I just concur and want to reemphasize some of the things that Council Member Salem said in regards to the fact that these dollars are specifically targeting creating more beds for females. And once again, the goal is to get them off the street. But is there anyone here from the Sulzbacher Center? Anyone here? Okay, so one question I did have is about how they go about determining the females who meet this particular requirement. But once again, I'm fully supportive of the fact that they are trying to get more people off the street. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. We'll next go to Past President Carlucci. You recognize? Yes, sir. I'd just like to be added as a co-sponsor. No one else in the queue before we take our vote. I did have a couple questions, but given no one's here from Sulzbacher, I'm not sure someone would be able to answer this. I've had some exchanges with the auditors. When this was originally introduced, it talked about creating those additional 32 beds. But as I saw the breakdown of costs, only about $3,000 was actually listed for expanding the facility capacity for those beds. So that caused me some pause, and I wanted to try to get the answer to that. However, I don't want to hold up progress. These 32 beds are very much needed. I've been paying close attention to everything since we had HIC stood up, and we do need these beds for PATH and for JFRD to be able to take women to in an environment that's appropriate, and this helps do that. So, yeah, I think I'll let this go because this goes in line. The numbers line up with the rate per beds for the other facilities. I just want to make sure that everybody is getting the attention and the money they need to expand the capacities when they're able to provide that. And I think this is a good step forward. So with that, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0542 as amended. We'll go next to item 15, 2026-0543. We have a motion second on the amendment. Ms. Reber, would you please explain the amendment? The amendment will attach Revised Exhibit 1, the BT, to correct the account information, and attach Revised Exhibit 2, the term sheet and budget, to provide additional clarity on the various budget categories. Okay, thank you. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. I have a motion second on the bill as amended. No in the queue. Please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 2026-0543 as amended. Item 16, 2026-0552. I have a motion, and do I have a second on the amendment? I have a motion second on the amendment. Ms. Reber, please explain the amendment. Through the chair to the committee, the amendment's going to be on a separate handout at your desk. It's quite lengthy. This one? Yes. The amendment will reduce the amount going to Jacksonville River Fine Alliance from 680-318 to 570-159, based on a revised budget they provided. So that will reduce the total appropriation amount to $1,570,159. It reduced the authorized advance for fiscal year 25-26 from $341,159 to $277,737, based on the revised budget. And then also allow for an additional advance of $292,422 for fiscal year 26-27. It will attach a revised BT to reflect the reduced appropriation and correct account information. And then we'll place a revised agreement on file to amend Section 2.03, which will provide that no amendment to the work plan may substantially reduce the services provided by the operator or increase the city's financial commitment without council approval and will include a definition of substantially reduce or increase. It will limit administrative budget reallocations to 10% of existing line items. We're going to clarify that all subcontracts and agreements between the operator and third party will contain city-mandated provisions, including the required insurance and indemnification provisions. We will clarify the city audit rights. We will amend Section 3.04 to reflect that the operator must provide reporting on private funds raised and details regarding working capital as part of their annual reporting and include the definition of working capital. We'll reduce the maximum indebtedness to that $570,159. We'll amend the section pertaining to advance payments to clarify that the support on the use of advance funds must be provided to the city prior to any subsequent disbursement by the city. Include a provision that the city may consider working capital in determination of whether to approve, reduce, or deny any advance payment. We will amend Section 4.05 to state that the initial advance to the operator is $277,737 and allow for an additional advance of $292,422 for fiscal year 2627. Turning to the next page, we'll add a new section stipulating that the city's financial obligation under the agreement are subject to and contingent upon the availability of lawfully appropriated funds. We'll include a revised Exhibit B to the agreement, which is the work plan, to clarify that repair responsibilities for the park assets will transfer to JRA contemporaneously with the transfer of operational responsibilities. Clarify that the city is responsible for security for all parks. And we'll update the Phase 1 funding based on the revised budget. We'll replace Exhibit C with the revised budget. And then replace Exhibit E with the approved insurance requirements. And then on the third page, I have included the revised fiscal year 2526 budget. And also a list of the parks, which includes the existing parks and future parks that JRA would take over operations. That's all? What was that third thing you said? All right. Thank you very much. A lot of work there. Thank you very much. We'll go next to Pastor President Carlucci. You recognize? Oh, wait a minute. We need to vote on the amendment, correct? Is this on the amendment or the bill? On the amendment. Yes, please. You recognize? Quite the amendment. And I just wanted to make sure that I wanted to hear what Daryl Joseph, our recreation department head, had to say about that. And is he okay with this? And is the administration okay with this? And I guess the council auditor's office worked with them on this, so I have great trust there. So I'm okay on this end, but just wanted to know what y'all think. Thank you. Good afternoon, Daryl Joseph, Parks Department. Through the chair of the Councilman Carlucci, absolutely. A lot of time, hours, telephone calls, emails between the auditor's office as well as OGC to make sure that we got this to a point that we were comfortable and we felt like the city was protected as well as protection for JRA. So, yes, we're in a good place. Okay. Sounds like a lot of safeguards have been put in place. It's very deliberate, intentional, and so I'm very good with the amendment, and I appreciate the council auditor's office and y'all working together with JRA, and I appreciate what y'all do. These are going to be a big part of our future, and because they're going to be a big part of our future, we don't want a big mistake or a big fumble. And we want them to go as executed. We want them to be excellent, and so thank y'all for your hard work in putting it together. Thank you. Thank you. We'll go next to past president Salem. You're recognized. Thank you, Chair. Through the chair to Mr. Joseph, how much control, Daryl, do you have in this process protecting the city in this endeavor? Through the chair to Councilman Salem, so thank you for that. The lady beside you is smiling, so I must have hit on something here. Yeah, thank you for that. Through the chair to Councilman Salem. So we've actually come a long way with this. As you remember, there was $2.6 million that was provided to JRA or to this project as a whole in the budget. So initially, that thought process and concept was JRA was going to take over everything. So we've scaled that back to a point that the city is going to maintain the maintenance of these facilities. JRA is going to focus in on the programming and fundraising at this point. And then we'll work together to provide more capacity to that organization. I will have a seat on their board, which I feel really confident to be in the loop as I've continued to be throughout this process. So, yes, I will be involved and will stay involved. Sounds like we've hit a good balance in that respect, not to prohibit them from doing what they need to do. But I feel personally you being involved in the maintenance of the parks is probably your strength in that respect and probably will benefit the whole organization. Thank you. Through the chair, if I can just piggyback on that. One thing I will say that we've learned, Friendship Fountain, just as an example, we're close to a million people per year visiting that site. So, again, we only get one time to get this right. So, working with JRA to really enhance the programming piece, I think, is going to be a true jewel for what we actually have on our riverfront. Yeah, but my apologies. Before we go any further, we did not vote on the amendment. So, if we can do that first. And then, okay, if it's strictly on the amendment, and then we'll come back for the general questions and comments. Please, go ahead. Thank you, Chair. As I'm looking at the parks, this question is to Ms. Ock. Is there no way that we could add Unity Plaza to this? Lindsay at Jacksonville Riverfront Alliance, address should be on file. Thank you, Councilman Peluso, for that question. The organization, as it was designed, we've spent over a year researching this model. The organization, as it is designed, is very specifically for the riverfront public spaces. And, unfortunately, Unity Plaza is just about a block, block and a half off the riverfront. It's like one-tenth of a mile away. It's right there. You just got to add it. But, all right. I'm good with it. Thank you, Chair. Okay. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. I'll take that as a motion and a second on the bill as amended. We'll go next to Councilmember Boylan. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to attest when Council President White assigned me to work with this group, I came to appreciate the diligence and the good work and the challenge they had in navigating with administration with Mr. Joseph. So, I think we're in a very good place. I think it's really important that we focus on programming, making sure that we actively utilize these parks, and I know one of the goals that Lindsay and others have worked on is to make sure that we have world-class parks and well-used world-class parks. And I want to make the point only as we get into the budget process that this is a core service to our community and a necessity for us to move forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. We'll go back to Councilmember Peluso. You're recognized. Thank you, Chair. No, I'm so grateful for this piece of legislation and the work you guys have done to the point of we only get one chance to do this. I think you're incredibly right. I think as we see more, you know, teen takeovers and more stuff like that, we've got to make sure that these parks are properly maintained, that we're prepared for those kinds of things, because if a bad reputation begins, we get to a bad spot. So, I think JRA is going to help be, like, a major part of the effort that makes sure that these parks are in pristine condition and that we will, you know, not be in a place where some of these other cities are. So, I'm very grateful to this. I would like to be a co-sponsor. Thank you. Thank you. We'll go next to past President Carlucci. You recognized? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Co-sponsor, please. Okay. See, it looks like we're all there. It looks like we're all there without a committee amendment, but I can't do that. But, yes, please. But, I do want to make some comments before we take the vote. I thank Ms. Ott and a group of the leadership who came and walked me through all this, and I apologize that the meeting went so long, because I did get into the details. My concern is not only for these 15 parks that have been recognized for downtown, but going forward, whose responsibility is for the over 400 parks that I think are in your portfolio that you manage, Mr. Joseph, for the maintenance. Now, you've specified here that you're going to be responsible for the maintenance for all these 15. There were a couple questions about that and whose responsibilities were what and where the lines were drawn. That's been articulated here, programming and funding versus maintenance. So, I'm comfortable with that. And this is starter money. I think some of this money was below the line before, so it's being moved up, and I'm perfectly fine with that to get the start that they need. And my concern and just caution going forward, we talked a lot about the need for public-private partnerships. This is a perfect example for the way forward to bring in all those companies, all those philanthropists who would love to play a part in making, as was stated, those parks world-class parks that are utilized by all of our citizens, as well as the visitors, and that they stay at that level, but we have some concerns coming forward fiscally with our challenges with revenue. So, my charge to you all, if you would accept it, is let's all look for ways to form those public-private partnerships for future funding for these efforts to augment the funds that are already being applied. So, thank you very much. With that, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 2026-0552 and a very large amendment. Item 17, 2026-0570 is on second read. Item number 18, 2026-0571. I have a motion and second on the emergency. Ms. Reaver, please explain the emergency. The emergency is so that the funding is available as soon as possible, since this funding was approved as part of the fiscal year 25-26 budget process. Okay. Thank you. Seeing no in the queue, all those in favor of the emergency, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The emergency passes. We have a motion and second on the amendment. Ms. Reaver, please explain the amendment. The amendment will add carryover language to the bill and then attach a revised BT to correct the account information. Thank you. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. We've got almost like that. I have a motion and a second on the bill as an emergency as amended. We first go to past President Karakou. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to get on the queue to reiterate what the council auditor said. This was a part of the budget last year. It's just being brought above the line in this legislation. I think everybody knows the work of the Salvation Army. They've got some representatives out here today if you have any further questions on the specifics of the program. But I just ask for your support in this. Thank you. Thank you. We'll go next to past President Carlucci. You're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. First, I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor on the bill. It's a good bill. I met with the Salvation Army a good number of times, including with Ms. Carpenter, who's been one of their biggest supporters for many, many years. I had at first blush thought maybe we could amend to add some dollars to this, but I'm afraid that would put too many gymnastics for the bill. And I don't want to do that, but I just wanted to use this opportunity to say that I'm going to try to have some sunshine meetings because I think I have identified some funding sources where I'd like to introduce a bill on my own to add some dollars to this. And once I have met with the Salvation Army, the council orders, our office of general counsel, and everybody else, including Ms. Carpenter, that can help me put together the need, which there is a big need, and a plan. Then I'll have some sunshine meetings because I'd like to be able to afford them some additional dollars before we get into the idea of trying to put something in the budget for them. I'd love to put something in the budget for them, but my concern is with the not-for-profits and so many others, I don't know who's going to wind up getting put under the line and so on and so forth. And even though we're just in the beginning of August, we're going to be having the holiday season come upon us before too long, and that's when they really move into a lot of their full action. And I'd like to see some additional dollars from the source I've identified with Ms. Reaver that I think will be acceptable to most council members, and I hope some of those in this committee would join me in some sunshine meetings and perhaps support my efforts to put some additional funding forth for this. So that's just what I wanted to do and say I support the bill, I want to be a co-sponsor, but I want to try to help put some additional dollars out there, and I appreciate the author of the bill putting this forth with the strategic plan. Thank you. Thank you, and please add me as a co-sponsor, and I wanted to thank the three here from Salvation Army for your patience, but more importantly for all you and your team do every day the wonderful things to help those who need help. We appreciate you very much. Okay, no one else in the queue. Please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By reaction, you've approved 2026-0571 as an emergency as amended. We go next to item number 19, 2026-0572 is on second read. Also second read is 2026-0573 and 2026-0574, 2026-0575, and that takes us to item 23, 2026-0577. I have a motion and a second on the emergency. Ms. Reber, please explain the emergency. The emergency is so that the funding is available as soon as possible to expedite the implementation of the program, recognizing it could be an effective tool in enhancing public safety. Thank you. All those in favor of the emergency, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The emergency passes. We have a motion and a second on the amendment. Ms. Reber, please explain the amendment. The amendment will add carryover language and attach or revise Exhibit 1, which is the BT, to correct account information and then correct Scrivener's errors. Thank you. All those in favor of the amendment. Oh, excuse me. Pass President Salem on the bill. Okay. All those in favor of the amendment, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. The amendment passes. We have a motion and second on the bill. As an emergency, as amended, we'll go to Pass President Salem. You're recognized. I didn't see this mentioned anywhere. This was from, I think, two years ago on a grant that was not completed, and it's been reallocated to this. So this is not new money by any means by Council Member Arias. Thank you. I see a nod by Ms. Reber, so I believe that's so. All right. I thought she might say it, but she didn't. So I just wanted to, I didn't want anything to think this was new money. This was, this is money from two years ago. Through the chair to Council Member Salem, you are absolutely correct. Thank you. Thank you. She has now said it. So we go to Vice Chair Clark Murray. You recognize? Thank you, Chair. She sounds like Phillip saying that. I just want to be a co-sponsor. Please at me as a co-sponsor. Thank you, Chair. Okay. I'd also like to be at as a co-sponsor. Great program. And I'm sorry it took so long for us to be able to make this happen. Um, no one else in the queue. Please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0577 as an emergency, as amended. Um, item 24, 2026-0578 is on second read. Also on second read, 2026-0579. And we go to item 26, 2026-0580. We motion second on the emergency. Ms. Reber, please explain the emergency. The emergency is in order, um, to make these funds available as soon as possible so that public works can proceed to put the project out for bid. Okay. No one in the queue. All, all those in favor of the emergency, please signify by saying yes. All those opposed, no. We have one. Oh, yes. Uh, the emergency passes. Motion second on the bill as an emergency. And, uh, we'll first go to past president Salem. You're recognized. Due to charter, Mr. To Councilman Boylan, I, I think it's commendable for you to put CBA dollars towards a public works project like this. I don't have any CBA dollars, but I would have beat Ms. Sickler over the head with a two by four multiple times before I'd have used my CBA dollars for something like this. But, but I'm glad you are. I know it's, it's well intended and hopefully it, it'll clear up that problem you have in your district. Thank you. We'll go next to Councilmember Peluso. Thank you, chair. I'm not going to let this bully next to me. Bully you, Councilmember Boylan. Uh, you've been talking about this project for, for quite a long time. I know it means a lot to you. I know it means a lot to your community and I, and I know, uh, working with public works as well, they've got a massive backlog. If we waited, you know, uh, uh, Councilmember Boylan would be old and gray by that point. So he's, he's putting his dollars to, to something that, uh, that, uh, that he knows will, will affect the community immediately. I'd like to be listed as a co-sponsor. Very supportive. All right. Thank you. We'll, we'll go next to the, uh, bill introducer. Councilmember Boylan, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the kind words from all my colleagues in support of this. There is a handout in front of you that speaks to this. As you can see, I've been involved in this particular project, the efforts of this going back to 2020, but it far precedes that in terms, uh, the community made a very compelling history, documented history as to why we got to where we are in this process. Quite frankly, I, uh, and the reason, and we are turning this over to public works to manage, uh, and, uh, the challenge partly has been getting DEP and others to sign off on the approval of the dredging, and I think we're at a point in time to do that, and I don't want to put this off any longer than we have. I think, you know, the well-documented history, uh, should help you in understanding the need for this, and, uh, the only question that I think I've heard in the past in terms of, you know, the overall public, um, good that's coming out of this, but if you take a look at the timeline, there was an awful lot of public good that led to the, uh, still buildup at the base of the, uh, uh, of the basin there. I should note that in 2022, as part of this process, believe it or not, a special taxing district was created, uh, whereby the, uh, neighbors, uh, adjacent to the basin would be responsible for maintaining it after the dredging is done. So this is, uh, they're not getting off scot-free in terms of maintaining the basin after it is dredged, and I appreciate public works. It's got, uh, Carter to step forward in, in, in willingness to, uh, oversee the, the development of this dredging project. So I encourage you and appreciate your support. Thank you very much. We'll go next to past President Carlucci. You're recognized. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor, and, uh, and this is a compliment to, uh, Councilman Boylan and Public Works. It is hard to get something like this, um, uh, permitted, and, uh, I just got to tell you, anytime you start wanting to dredge a creek, uh, anything like that, it is hard, hard, hard. So let your, uh, your constituents should appreciate the heck out of you getting this thing done, the amount of work it takes, and, um, good luck on your sidewalks. Thank you, um, seeing no one else in the queue, I just wondered, is there anyone here from, um, Hogpen Creek, or is Councilman Diamond here? I just, no, I'm just, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Um, no, I'm just saying, we talked, um, as I, as I went through the history of this, and I, and I really mean this, even though I joked, I really mean this. Um, I think there's some things with the way you approach this, and, um, public works, and everyone working together on this, um, I think we can always find a way forward if we're willing to work together and figure it out. Um, so thank you for that, and, um, with that, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved 2026-0580 as an emergency. Item 27, 2026-0583 is on second, also on second, 2026-0584, 0585. And, barring, oh, wait a minute, we gotta skip over, we already took up item 30, so, also on second read, item 31, 2026-0587 is on second read, 32, 2026-0588 is on second read, and the last item, item 33, 2026-0590 is on second read. Anything else? By anyone. Thank you all very much. We're now adjourned. We're now adjourned.