‘You Were Shouting At Us’: Cayetano Blasts Kiko Pangilinan During Heated Senate Session

[0:00] There's an objection, then we vote. So may we proceed with the vote, Madam President. [0:04] Mr. President, I was earlier, it was the manifestation of the presiding officer, the Madam Chairperson, [0:12] that after Senator Laxon, I be allowed to speak, Mr. President. [0:16] Are we now curtailing my right to speak, Mr. President? [0:19] We are not able to ask questions as to why we are amending the rules. [0:24] We are not able to ask questions as to who they wish, who will benefit from the amendment to the rules. [0:32] Is this rule, Mr. President, for Senator Batov, who is not here, we would like to raise these valid questions, Mr. President, [0:42] before we go into a vote, Mr. President. [0:44] We should not be... [0:46] How can the presiding officer recognize Senator Pangilinan? [0:49] Please know that I would never curtail your right to speak, just as in 2004, I believe you were seated, [1:04] and I was a vice presidential candidate of FPJ then, and my microphone was closed, and my right to speak was closed, was not given. [1:13] I remember that time now, and the word noted was said to me. [1:20] That will not happen now. [1:22] I will not do that to you. [1:23] And I'm not curtailing your right to speak, Senator Pangilinan, except that you were speaking at the same time. [1:30] And I was about to recognize you, because Senator Laxon had the floor. [1:35] Thank you, Madam President, for that clarification. [1:38] I just wanted to be clear on record, because I recognize you're being emotional, but it will go on Senate record that the presiding officer was curtailing your right to speak. [1:50] I would never do that, and I would not do what I experienced in 2004 in the House of Representatives in the canvassing of the votes then. [2:00] Thank you. [2:01] Madam President, would you respect, Mr. President, I was not referring to the presiding officer. [2:06] Yeah, I'm yielding the floor to Senator Pangilinan. [2:08] Yes. [2:09] Thank you, Senator Laxon. [2:10] We recognize Senator Francis Pangilinan. [2:12] Yes, Mr. President, and allow me to clarify, Madam President, I was not referring to the presiding officer in terms of the curtailing of my right to speak and to raise questions, Mr. President, [2:28] because it was the Senate President who was moving to divide the House, Mr. President, without sufficient debates. [2:38] Mr. President, this is the first time I'm going to experience this in a long time, wherein debates are now being curtailed, because there's a motion to divide the House. [2:46] Since you're not being curtailed, we would like to hear your objection to the motion. [2:50] Thank you. [2:50] Mr. President, there are a lot of questions that have to be raised as to why this amendment to the rules is being undertaken at this time. [3:03] President provides, Mr. President, that when we amend our rules, we do so by way of resolution. [3:11] We do not have that resolution now. [3:14] In fact, Mr. President, a total of 48 amendments of our rules all went through resolutions. [3:22] This is the first time after 48 amendments, Mr. President, that we do not have a resolution so that we can both and amend the rules properly, Mr. President. [3:32] Yeah, point of order. [3:35] Point of order. [3:36] Yes, Senate President. [3:37] Point of order takes precedence. [3:38] First of all, I hope we learned our lesson. [3:42] Senator Pangilinan already apologized to Senator Padilla. [3:46] Then now you're shouting at us. [3:48] No, the record will show. [3:50] Nakataped naman eh. [3:51] Ang taas-taas ng boses nyo eh. [3:53] Diba? [3:54] You were shouting at kaya nga hindi magkarinigan. [3:57] Now, what's my point of order? [3:59] We are not discussing the merits yet of the amendment. [4:05] No one's curtailing your rights because wala pa tayo dun eh. [4:09] Ang pinagbubutohan natin ngayon kung pwedeng i-take up sa floor o hindi. [4:15] Yun ang itinatake up natin. [4:17] And the arguments have already been laid out. [4:22] And Senator Pangilinan and I were together in 2009 where we had debates here where Senator Enrile did not even allow amendments. [4:36] And then we voted. [4:37] It depends on every issue, Madam Chair. [4:41] There's no specific rule of the amount of time. [4:44] I was asking the gentleman about certain issues in one resolution. [4:49] He refused nga for further interpolation and said it's time to vote. [4:54] They were the majority. [4:56] So, Madam Chair, we're here. [4:58] We're willing. [4:59] Senator Marcoleta is ready to take questions. [5:02] Ang pinagbubutohan lang po natin ngayon, simple lang. [5:04] Whether or not we can take, whether or not the proposal to amend the rules is in order. [5:13] Yun pa lang ho. [5:14] Yung specific amendment, sino magbe-benefit, paano magbe-benefit, etc. [5:19] We support the right of Senator Pangilinan to ask questions, pero wala pa tayo dun eh. [5:24] So, again, may I raise the previous question, Madam Chair, the point of order, the parliamentary reason. [5:32] Go ahead. [5:32] Be given there.