Alan Cayetano Hits Back at Erwin Tulfo Over Missing Senators in Flood Control Hearing

[0:00] May pinabanggit po kanina si Sen. Erwin Tulfo na sila lang po yung nabanggit ni Tito Sen. [0:08] Pero doon sa original affidavit ng mga dating sundalo, [0:13] nandun din si Sen. Loren Lawal at saka yung magkapatid na Villars. [0:17] So, actually, ngayon po lang nakita yung affidavit. [0:20] I have not read, etc. [0:22] But that's the problem with the Tulfos. [0:25] Sasabihin nila, humarap ka, etc. [0:27] Ebi sana humarap siya kanina. [0:29] Diba? [0:29] O, yung 18, harapin niya sa susunod na hearing, [0:32] bakit ako magtatanong nun? [0:34] Hindi ko naman nabasa yung unang affidavit. [0:37] Mas maganda nga yun pagka ganun. [0:39] Kasi matetest yung credibility. [0:42] Diba? [0:42] Pero si Erwin, nasa groups naman namin yan, [0:46] may mga nagbanggit din doon na minabanggit sa majority [0:49] bakit hindi niya pinatanong. [0:53] Meron din doon, nabanggit sa majority nila. [0:56] Ang sagot nila doon, hindi daw credible yung witness na yun. [0:59] Pero yung witness na yun ay ginagamit laban kila Tirol Pina Nueva [1:02] at sa ibang mga senador. [1:05] Kaya sinasabi ko nga sa inyo, [1:06] bantayan nyo na gusto yung Blue Ribbon Committee [1:08] kasi imbis na instrument for truth, [1:11] ginagamit na instrument para magkaroon ng mga scapegoats [1:16] o kaya selective justice, [1:18] o kaya binagamit para hindi mabuo yung tunay na majority. [1:23] Okay lang, last follow-up. [1:25] Kasi nagbanggit na po si Senator Erwin [1:29] na they will also hold the Blue Ribbon meeting on Monday. [1:33] I will assert, di ba, [1:38] the powers of the Senate President. [1:41] Having said that, [1:42] have anyone of you known me [1:44] in my ilan years na ba ako in government? [1:47] Eight plus 34 years in government. [1:50] Have I ever stopped anyone who wants to talk? [1:54] Siguro kung may time limit. [1:55] So gusto nilang gamitin yung Senate, [1:58] gusto nilang magkaroon ng event, [1:59] go ahead, [2:00] but it's not an official Blue Ribbon hearing [2:01] because hindi naman siya chairman ng Blue Ribbon hearing. [2:03] Ang tapang-tapang nila magsabi dati [2:08] na dapat mag-inhibit yung mga ola doon. [2:11] Ngayon, sila nabanggit. [2:13] Gusto nilang mag-earing. [2:15] Ayaw nila mag-earing. [2:16] Ba't ba ayaw nila mag-earing ito? [2:17] Kaya nga sila nag-ganyan kahapon. [2:23] Okay, next. [2:24] Next question, Hannah T. from Villainary. [2:26] Hi Sen. [2:27] Please explain to us lang po [2:29] if paano po ito, [2:31] like how does this bear any weight? [2:34] Meron po bang presence ng Broom staff ganina? [2:37] Paano po ito papasok sa Senate records [2:40] given na hiwalay po yung kampo nyo [2:43] and get your young camp? [2:44] That's a good question [2:45] not only because it happened today, [2:47] we expect it to happen in the next few weeks. [2:50] So that's what I meant na kaninong... [2:52] Sorry. [2:56] So, democracy is messy. [3:06] And we're in a mess. [3:09] I'm just saying, [3:10] they never gave us a chance. [3:11] From the day we took over, [3:14] how many Senate presidents [3:15] naanadaanan po since 2007? [3:18] May honeymoon period yan eh. [3:20] Whether matagal o maikli. [3:23] Diba? [3:24] Ako day one, [3:25] kay Bato. [3:26] Day two, [3:27] privilege pitch. [3:29] Pinagbigyan nila ang privilege pitch. [3:31] Tapos day three, [3:32] eto na, [3:33] yung NBI na dito. [3:34] The next week, [3:35] privilege pitch. [3:36] Upakang kami na [3:37] kami ang magulo. [3:39] Tapos sasabihin, [3:40] kami hindi nagkatrabaho. [3:41] Do you know that until today, [3:43] kahit kahapon ha, [3:44] yung ano, [3:45] never sila nagbasa ng members nila [3:46] sa kahit anong committee. [3:48] So paano nila sasabihin [3:49] gusto nila magtrabaho na? [3:52] Every day tinatanong ko, [3:53] anong committees ang gusto nyo? [3:55] At, [3:56] ah, [3:56] hindi nila binabasa [3:57] kahit membership. [3:59] Tapos sila ang gusto magtrabaho. [4:01] They want power, [4:01] not work. [4:02] Susan, [4:03] ah, [4:03] pasok po ito sa Senate Rep. [4:05] Ayan, [4:05] we're going to have, [4:06] our staff is, [4:07] are going to have to do it. [4:09] How about the Broom staff? [4:10] Meron po bang presence ng, [4:12] I'm not sure, [4:13] may nag-attend na na kanya. [4:15] Wala. [4:15] Mag tutulitulit, [4:17] Susan, [4:18] ah, [4:18] haantong ba sa committee report? [4:20] It'll be part of our history. [4:22] Ah, [4:22] if you look at the history [4:23] of the United States, [4:24] it'll be war pa, [4:26] di ba? [4:26] Because nga, [4:27] yung North at South, [4:28] hindi magkasundo sa slavery. [4:30] There's a lot of votes [4:31] in the US Congress, [4:33] pati constitutional change [4:34] that were one vote. [4:36] Ah, [4:37] nagkaroon ng time, [4:39] ang sinunod ni President Kennedy. [4:43] So, [4:43] democracy talaga is, [4:45] it's messy. [4:46] But yun nga, [4:47] remember, [4:48] people make the actions [4:50] for the institutions. [4:52] So, [4:53] in the end, [4:54] the Chilean group [4:56] blames us, [4:57] we blame them. [4:58] But in the end, [4:59] I take responsibility, [5:00] we're all to blame. [5:02] Di ba? [5:02] I'm just saying, [5:02] it's unfair to say, [5:03] magudol yung tag ni Kaita. [5:05] Eh, [5:05] kayo nang gugulo eh. [5:06] Sila nang gugulo eh. [5:07] Tapos, [5:08] sasabihin nila, [5:08] magulo. [5:09] As na po, [5:10] na-mention niyo po kanina [5:12] na ayaw po ng SOTOCAMP [5:14] umalis sa Senate President's Office. [5:17] We sought comments [5:18] from Kito Sen, [5:19] actually. [5:19] To tell, [5:21] what I'm saying is that [5:22] he kept on extending it, [5:24] I allowed it, [5:25] hindi kiponteks. [5:25] Sabi niya, [5:26] di ba? [5:27] So, [5:27] I was saying that in context na, [5:31] gusto mo kayo pag-usap ni Senator Wins? [5:33] O, [5:33] prove your, [5:34] ano, [5:35] prove your sincerity. [5:36] Vacate the SP room. [5:38] Mag-meeting tayo doon. [5:39] Pero yung iti-takeover niya, [5:41] tapos sasabihin niya, [5:42] siya na ang Senate President, [5:44] kahit acting, [5:45] hindi good faith yun. [5:46] Di ba? [5:47] Sabi daw po ni, [5:48] uh, [5:48] Senator Soto ay, [5:50] nag-usap daw po kayo, [5:51] ang balak daw po ay, [5:52] adjourn na, [5:53] aalis daw po. [5:54] Can you confirm the conversation? [5:55] Nag-usap kami noong first week, [5:57] sabi niya, [5:58] ah, [5:59] pwede bang, [6:00] ano, [6:01] bigyan mo akong time? [6:02] So, [6:03] nag-usap kami ulit, [6:03] or the same time, [6:05] pwede bang adjournment? [6:06] Then, [6:06] nangyari yung May 13, [6:08] nagkaroon ako ng memo, [6:11] na hindi secure yung opisina ko dito, [6:13] at hindi mag-garantee [6:14] ng security namin, [6:16] kasi nga ang daming bisita, [6:17] at may mga opisina dito. [6:19] So, [6:20] kinausap ng staff ko, [6:21] staff niya, [6:22] kung pwede that weekend. [6:23] Kinausap niya ako noong Monday, [6:25] sabi niya, [6:26] ah, [6:26] ano to, [6:27] so sabi ko, [6:27] titusen, [6:28] paano yung security, [6:29] ganyan-ganyan. [6:30] Sabi niya, [6:30] ilang araw pa, [6:31] pero hanap mo ako opisina. [6:33] So, [6:33] inanap ko siya opisina, [6:34] may opisina na pala, [6:36] so, [6:37] binalikan siya noong staff ko, [6:38] binalikan niya ako, [6:39] binalikan ko, [6:40] na, [6:41] meron ng opisina. [6:42] Sabi niya, [6:43] hindi, [6:43] kailangan sa 6th floor. [6:45] And, [6:45] nasa 6th floor lang naman, [6:46] na walang right to be there, [6:47] in the sense that, [6:49] si, [6:49] Senator Legarda is now SPP, [6:52] and then, [6:53] ah, [6:53] yung majority office, [6:55] sa majority naman yun, [6:56] wala pang binabanggit. [6:57] So, [6:58] sinabi ko, [6:58] sir, [6:58] kayo naman po sa please, [7:00] Senator Pink, [7:00] pinasabi ko sa staff, [7:02] eh, [7:02] or mag-issue pa ba ako ng, [7:04] ng memo. [7:05] So, [7:06] so, [7:06] so, [7:06] sa nung linggo, [7:07] dadating yung vice, [7:07] yung president ng Vietnam. [7:10] So, [7:10] sabi ko, [7:10] baka naman this weekend, [7:12] pwede na kayong malis. [7:13] Kasi nakakaya naman, [7:14] baka mag-CR ako, [7:15] mag-CR yung presidente ng Vietnam, [7:19] alam nga naman, [7:20] sa hallway ko pa punta, [7:21] yung, [7:21] sa opisina across, [7:22] baka magamit, [7:23] hindi pa rin umalis. [7:24] Diba? [7:25] So, yun lang. [7:25] Pero hindi issue yun, [7:26] in the context of an issue, [7:28] alam ko na plano nila, [7:29] they never thought, [7:30] natatagal kami ng ganito katagal. [7:33] Kasi, [7:33] ang tingin talaga nila, [7:34] yung mga hawak nilang alas, [7:36] eh, [7:37] bibigay yung mga nasa 13. [7:39] Diba? [7:39] So, [7:40] that's, [7:40] so, [7:40] my point is, [7:42] kay Sen Win, [7:42] diba? [7:43] Same thing, [7:43] diba? [7:44] If I say I'm acting president, [7:47] then I tell President Bongbong, [7:49] mag-usap tayo. [7:50] Kakausapin ba ako nun? [7:52] Kasi siya legitimate president eh. [7:54] O, diba? [7:55] So, [7:56] okay, [7:56] usap, [7:57] et cetera. [7:57] Pero anong pag-usap? [7:58] Paano mag-usap? [7:59] Tsaka, [8:00] usap kayo, [8:00] from day one, [8:01] May 11, [8:02] usap. [8:03] Pero huwag kayong mag-threaten. [8:05] Isipin ko, [8:05] lalapit sa iba, [8:06] yung iba sa kala sino, [8:07] Monday, [8:09] kulang na kayo. [8:10] Ah, [8:11] ikaw, [8:11] may kaso ka, [8:12] ganyan. [8:12] So, [8:13] anong klaseng usap? [8:14] Yun. [8:15] So, [8:16] may angal ako lang sa bilyonaryo, [8:17] which wala, [8:18] diba? [8:19] Hindi naman pwedeng usap, [8:21] meaning, [8:22] hoy, [8:22] ito, [8:22] complete na usap, [8:23] na sabihin ko, [8:24] kasuhan ko kayo, [8:24] pag hindi kayo nag- [8:25] diba? [8:26] That's what I meant na, [8:28] we're sincere if they're sincere. [8:30] Diba? [8:33] Robert Mano, [8:34] from... [8:37] Sir, [8:37] paano ninyo, [8:39] ito na i-discharge yung function ninyo, [8:42] considering na yung counterpart ninyo, [8:44] yung House of Reps, [8:45] kinikilala si Senator Wyn, [8:47] ang Palas, [8:48] kinikilala si Senator Wyn. [8:50] Dito po, [8:51] nagbigay kayo ng instructions sa mga empleyado, [8:54] pero sa mismong hearing po ninyo, [8:56] walang sumipot, [8:57] para sundin yung instructions po ninyo. [9:01] Three books, [9:02] three books, [9:03] the rules of the Senate, [9:05] the Philippine Constitution, [9:12] and mawalang galang sa mga hindi natin ka-religion, [9:15] ng mga Christian, [9:16] the Bible. [9:18] Do we follow power, [9:19] or do we follow these three books? [9:22] And, [9:23] yung pagsunod ng House of Representatives, [9:26] at saka ng Malacanang, [9:30] obvious na play nila yun. [9:32] Diba? [9:33] So, yung mga empleyado, [9:34] give them time over the weekend, [9:35] pag-isipan, [9:36] pero hindi madali sa kanila, [9:37] kasi livelihood nila at career nila at stake. [9:40] At alam mo naman, [9:41] ang Pilipino, [9:42] we have a notion of utang na loob. [9:44] So, [9:44] kung nagpasok sa kanila, [9:45] ay si Senator Popo, [9:47] Senator Drilon, [9:49] et cetera, [9:49] et cetera, [9:50] eh, [9:50] lumalabas siya. [9:52] Actually, [9:52] ano eh, [9:53] sabi nila, [9:54] pagka si Alam Kaitano, [9:55] hindi unifier, [9:56] diba? [9:57] Di totoo yun, [9:58] ha? [9:58] Kita mo, [9:59] lahat sila, [9:59] Marcos na rin. [10:01] Nagkaisa sila doon. [10:03] Napagkaisa ko sila doon. [10:05] Yung kaliwa, [10:06] yung mga bilaw, [10:07] yung mga pink, [10:08] yung mga dating aktivista, [10:12] yung mga dito, [10:13] kampi-kampi na kayo sila sa Mara Kanyang. [10:15] So, [10:15] napagkaisa ko sila. [10:16] So, [10:17] hindi totoo na hindi ako unifier. [10:20] Thank you. [10:28] First time, [10:29] first time ako nagpalatpakan ng media, [10:36] walang bayad niya. [10:38] Ang iningi ko lang, [10:50] don't give us any quarters, [10:51] prayers lang, [10:52] for the country. [10:53] Thank you, [10:53] everyone. [10:54] Thank you. [10:55] Sorry, [10:56] sorry. [10:57] Kanina, [10:58] sir, [10:58] na-mention nyo na yung threat lagi doon sa mga kasama ninyo, [11:01] na dyan, [11:02] how do you intend to protect po yung mga kasama po ninyo para hindi pa kayo malagasan lalo? [11:06] Prayers, [11:07] walk of faith, [11:08] nung nawala si Bato, [11:10] yung misis nag-text sa akin, [11:12] nag-text o tumawag kay Sen. Robin, [11:16] nag-text, [11:16] tumawag kay Sen. Bonggo, [11:18] sana naman daw sa bawat pangigipit, [11:21] maalala na si Bato, [11:23] maganda na ang taguan, [11:24] pero pumunta pa ang Sen. [11:26] para lang magbago ang direksyon. [11:28] Nung nakulong si Jingoy, [11:30] yun din ang sinabi niya sa akin, [11:32] ako ang kasama niya doon, [11:33] sabi niya, [11:33] pare, [11:34] dead meat na ako dito, [11:35] baka magbulok na ako dito, [11:39] pag naghiwalay-hiwalay pa, [11:40] sabi mo sa grupo, [11:41] hindi ako bumigay. [11:42] I saw him during the most crucial time, [11:47] di ba? [11:47] So, [11:48] nangyari yung nangyari kahapon, [11:50] so we're still praying, [11:51] but remember, [11:52] tao din yung labing isa plus one, [11:54] baka meron pa ang makonsensya sa kanila, [11:56] di ba? [11:56] You know, [11:57] the problem with corruption in the Philippines [11:58] is that [11:59] when you put every single person [12:01] under the microscope, [12:02] may makikita ka eh. [12:04] Di ba? [12:04] The best answer I heard [12:06] was the former Secretary Angie Reyes, [12:09] sabi niya, [12:10] alam mo, [12:10] pag tinanong yung politiko, [12:11] nagnakaw ka ba? [12:13] Eh sabi niya, [12:13] mag-uwi ka lang ng paperclip eh. [12:15] Nasa gobyerno, [12:16] nagnakaw ka na eh. [12:17] So, it's a matter of degree eh. [12:19] So, that's why, [12:19] di ba, [12:20] once upon a time, [12:21] sabi ko, [12:21] baka gusto niyo, [12:22] resign all na lang, [12:22] tapos bawal na tayo tumakbo, [12:24] para clean slate. [12:25] Lahat sila ayaw, [12:27] kasi nagkaisa din sila, [12:28] ako lang daw dapat mag-resign. [12:31] Kaya I unify people. [12:32] Okay? [12:33] Thank you. [12:35] Marami, [12:36] marami, [12:37] marami. [12:37] Are you still confident? [12:48] Confident ako na [12:49] pare-pareho prinsipyo namin [12:50] and that we'll make [12:51] the right decisions together. [12:53] Kasi kung ako lang, [12:54] kung ako lang ha, [12:55] parang gusto ko nang sabihin [12:57] isa sa dalawa sa kanila [12:58] na pairam niyo na yung boto, [13:00] kasi ang hirap eh, [13:02] ang hirap nung pinagdadala nila, [13:03] tapos para bang [13:05] ako lang nakikinabang [13:06] dahil akong SP. [13:07] So, [13:08] although alam na nila na [13:09] ilan kaso na [13:10] at ilan na ang hinalungkat sa akin, [13:12] so, [13:12] nandun yung support. [13:13] So, [13:13] I'm confident in our democracy. [13:16] I'm confident [13:17] that the Philippines [13:17] is a country of the Lord. [13:19] So, [13:20] I face this, [13:22] I'll just quote someone, [13:23] nakasama ko, [13:24] sabi niya sa akin, [13:25] Brad, [13:25] alam mo naman ako, [13:28] kasi magkasama kami nun, [13:30] hindi ko nakasama kay [13:31] ERF, [13:32] nakasama ko kay GMA na. [13:33] Sabi niya sa akin, [13:34] Brad, [13:35] alam mo naman, [13:36] kahit barilin ako sa Luneta, [13:37] single ako nun, [13:38] wala akong familia, [13:39] wala akong asawa, [13:40] bata pa tatay ko, [13:42] pero ngayon, [13:42] baka takayin sa puso, [13:43] tatay ko, [13:44] baka nga, [13:44] pero hindi ako kakalas. [13:46] So, [13:46] ganun na yung salitaan namin eh. [13:48] So, [13:48] although may asawa ko, [13:49] I haven't been blessed [13:50] to have children, [13:51] I have a lot of mom [13:52] on Ken's, [13:52] I treat as my children, [13:53] I have my ate, [13:54] na I didn't want to pull in. [13:57] But she's a senator, [13:58] as much as me, [13:58] and she's happy to do this. [14:01] She didn't want the blue ribbon. [14:03] But kanina, [14:04] siya nagsabing, [14:05] Al, [14:05] kung magkakagula dun sa baba, [14:07] baka respeto nila kung baba eh. [14:09] So, [14:09] siya bumaba. [14:10] Butin lang sumama si Robin, [14:11] kasi kahit pala baba eh, [14:13] haharangin pa rin sa baba. [14:14] So, [14:15] I'm confident God is in control, [14:17] but I cannot tell you more than now, [14:18] and I don't know what will happen later, [14:20] I don't know what will happen tomorrow, [14:21] I don't know what will happen month. [14:24] Thank you. [14:24] Matthew Perez from Malaya. [14:27] Kanina nahack yung [14:28] Facebook ni, [14:30] ano, [14:31] ni Senator Marcoleta. [14:33] Tinignan ko, [14:33] may nag-dram. [14:34] Sabi ko, [14:35] baka bongo yun. [14:47] No, [14:48] last, [14:48] last. [14:48] Senator, [14:50] questions from me, [14:51] from Malaya. [14:53] Yes, [14:53] I would like to ask, [14:54] how do you feel about the palace [14:57] recognizing the leadership [14:58] of African presidents? [15:01] I'm sure with you. [15:01] Expected. [15:03] I don't feel bad about that, [15:04] kasi expected. [15:05] I feel bad na since [15:07] actually, [15:08] nagpahihwating ako sa palasyo [15:12] two weeks before I took over. [15:14] I talked to many of their allies [15:19] and told them, [15:20] mukhang improbable na pumalit kaming grupo, [15:25] pero possible. [15:26] Improbable dahil marami kayong hawak [15:29] dahil tinatakot nyo, [15:31] pero probable kasi [15:33] hindi na tenable yung ginagawa ni Senator Lacson, [15:36] Senator Pangilinan, [15:38] Senator Soto. [15:42] So, [15:43] nung nagulat sila, [15:45] nagsisisihan na, [15:46] kasi hindi sila naniwalang mangyayari, [15:49] pinaabot ko na priority namin [15:51] impartial na [15:52] impeachment, [15:56] kasi yan naman hiningin ng ating mga kababayan, [15:58] at yung ekonomiya, [15:59] kasi [16:00] hindi natin nararamdaman dito sa Manila [16:02] at dito sa mga air condition na [16:04] kwarto, [16:05] pero yung mga kababayan natin sa bawat barangay, [16:07] whether Metro Manilal Zone besides Mindanao, [16:10] OFW sa Middle East, [16:11] nararamdaman nila. [16:13] So, [16:13] tinanong ng mga ibang kakampi nila, [16:15] Blue Ribbon, [16:16] sabi ko, [16:16] we want to know the truth, [16:18] but [16:18] we want it as a fair, [16:20] so sana [16:21] both sides nandun. [16:23] So, [16:23] nagulat lang kami for the next three weeks, [16:25] kami nakalaban. [16:26] But, [16:27] maybe I can say, [16:28] I just found out today, [16:29] kasi grabe pala yung [16:30] yung mga testimony. [16:32] Again, [16:33] totoo.