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Bessent holds White House briefing as jobless claims, inflation rise amid U.S.-Iran war

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"last year and importantly very importantly 62 million returns 44 percent claimed at least one of the president's signature tax cuts no tax on tips no tax on overtime the reduced taxes on social security benefits 85 percent of our seniors paid no taxes and the auto deductibility on loans for..."

[0:00] last year and importantly very importantly 62 million returns 44 percent claimed at least one [0:07] of the president's signature tax cuts no tax on tips no tax on overtime the reduced taxes on [0:16] social security benefits 85 percent of our seniors paid no taxes and the auto deductibility on loans [0:24] for american cars and to remind everyone democrats every democrat voted against those programs we've [0:32] had sustained and resilient gdp growth real gdp has risen 2.6 percent over the past four quarters [0:39] atlanta feds gdp now predicts 3.8 percent for this quarter second quarter the u.s energy dominance [0:50] part of our resilience stems from our energy dominance natural gas is down as my belief and [0:57] the futures market is showing us oil will be lower than pre-conflict levels we are more resilient to [1:02] energy price fluctuations due to president trump's energy dominance and deregulatory agenda the united [1:09] states is now the world's largest energy exporter the united states has never exported so much energy [1:15] or produced so much energy main street prosperity the average 401k is up almost 30 000 since president [1:23] trump's inauguration president trump rx has already saved americans over 600 million dollars i'm sure [1:29] all of you will want to report on that and the unemployment rate remains low at 4.3 percent so [1:36] with that i'm happy to ask some questions i will mention the three weeks ago i got an honorary degree from [1:43] the university of south carolina so if you really want to get a question you can call me dr besson [1:49] so [1:58] you know there's a lot of people a lot of working class americans that maybe don't have the financial [2:02] expertise when it comes to stock markets and investing in general in what ways do you are you [2:08] guys simplifying this for all those americans so that it's not just for one class of people but all [2:14] americans can inhabit well that's a great question because 38 percent of americans have no exposure [2:20] to equities they don't share in the great innovation the machine that is the american economy or great [2:28] capital markets drives the our prosperity so if your child is born during president trump's administration [2:37] treasury puts in a thousand dollars as a seed investment we've also created six learning pods [2:45] so you can go online to the app that went up today and learn and i think that this is going to be [2:52] i've been a big proponent of financial literacy and i think this is going to be one of the greatest [2:57] real-time financial literacy educations in history because it won't be oh like there's a street in new [3:05] york called wall street this is what i don't really understand what happens there american family [3:10] is going to be able to look on their phone every day and see and you know i think it's going to [3:15] drive people to try to understand what they've got here i think we're going to create a generation of [3:22] shareholders so so uh ed thank you mr secretary um i guess first well we're starting to see this [3:29] disruption of the oil supply and food straightforward moves affect economic data um you know first is [3:35] there a deal on the table uh for 60 day ceasefire to continue that and then second um how fast could [3:42] inflation then recede or retreat or is inflation sticky because the pce was uh at a three-year high [3:48] uh well first of all pce today month over month was 0.2 which was we're looking at decimal points but [3:56] the estimate was 0.3 so one month doesn't a trend make and what we've seen is actually oil prices are [4:04] down about 10 percent in may there are almost 2 000 ships waiting to come out of the gulf and i think [4:10] the oil market is going to be very well supplied on the other side of this and that we could see prices [4:16] come down very quickly we saw the uae the leave opec so i i would expect on the other side of this that [4:23] gasoline prices will follow the on the table sorry is there an agreement with iran on the table uh the [4:31] the teams have been going back and forth and president trump has made it very clear he talked [4:36] about it at the cabinet meeting that he he has several red lines and iran has to turn over their [4:44] highly enriched uranium they cannot pursue a nuclear weapon and the strait of vermuth back to your question [4:50] on energy has to free transit navigation of the seas has to be free and open as it was before so he's [4:58] not going to take a bad deal he's going to make a great deal for the american people [5:04] so peter thank you dr beckham yep um how long until we see your signature next to president trump's face [5:14] on a 250 bill well again as treasury secretary i i have two mandates for u.s currency at present that [5:25] no living person can be on u.s currency and the currency must stay in god we trust so right now [5:32] there is proposed legislation that in front of the house in front of the senate to change the first [5:39] requirement so that a living person donald j trump could be on the 250 bill so it it's all in the [5:46] hands of the uh it's it's all in upland capitol hill so at treasury we prepare things in advance so [5:56] we have prepared in advance that if the legislation is passed but we will stick to the law [6:02] that came up yesterday also at the cabinet meeting president trump said oman will behave just like [6:10] everybody else or we will have to blow them up are you guys back there in the west wing making plans [6:15] for a new war with oman again i think the president wanted to punctuate freedom of navigation in the [6:24] strait i had a call with the omani ambassador this morning and he assured me that there were no plans for [6:30] tolling the strait as he said our countries have had 200 years of good relations he wants to have [6:36] another 200 more and you know i told him that this was a non-starter and he did not want to risk [6:43] either the omani individuals or omani financial institutions via getting sanctioned [6:54] is it in the u.s interest to waive some sanctions on iran or to unfreeze some of their assets [7:00] before iran has made concrete um promises about getting rid of their nuclear program again i i'm [7:07] not going to preview the deal but i i would think that the things would go very slowly the uh in terms [7:15] of that so you know we'll we'll see just to follow up on that because it's our understanding that the [7:22] u.s has committed to discussing the matter of sanctions relief during this negotiation period so [7:26] just to be clear is sanctions relief for iran on the table again it is a multi-faceted agreement and [7:35] nothing is going to be on the table until we see the strait of remote open and the iranians agree [7:43] that they they have to turn over the the highly enriched uranium and that they can't have a nuclear [7:49] program and and and and to be clear here that this administration president trump has done something [7:56] that no other administration is able to do we have gotten the iranians to talk about their nuclear [8:02] program and to perhaps commit to not having one that has never happened before it had been off the [8:08] table so i think when you look at the results of the kinetic action of our economic pressure it has [8:13] worked to bring them to the table and have a discussion on this mr secretary i just want to follow [8:20] up you said that the teams have been going back and forth but can you confirm whether or not a [8:25] tentative agreement has been reached in these negotiations with iran again everything depends [8:31] on what the president wants to do and president trump is not going to make a bad deal for the american [8:38] people for the the u.s and he was very clear at the cabinet meeting on the uh yesterday what he wants [8:52] cara from lindell tv i'm sorry did i still have his question because i'm not that person no it's you [8:56] okay thank you so much thank you for taking my question cara from lindell tv i really want to get [9:01] your thoughts on digital currency a lot of our viewers are increasingly worried that digital currency [9:06] could one day be used to track people's spending or limit personal freedom what's your philosophy [9:12] on that and what is safeguards is the treasury and its administration putting in place to make [9:16] sure new digital payment systems protect americans privacy and freedoms in the future well so this [9:22] administration has been very clear there will be no central bank digital currency which i think [9:27] the is would be the first step toward tracking so we have taken that off the table we passed stable [9:33] coin legislation with bipartisan and the clarity act is now up on the hill and i think it has bipartisan [9:39] support and the most important thing we can do is to make digital assets come into the united states [9:47] make the u.s the home our regulation our best practices or what will ensure good standards for [9:55] these when you look at digital assets all the nonsense that happens all the things you read about [10:01] that's because it's the wild wild west offshore so we got to bring it on shore so i would encourage [10:06] the house and the senate to get clarity done a lot of people talking about the irs settlement and which [10:20] has been rolled over now into this weaponization fund over at doj wanted to get your comment on [10:27] the decision process as much as you can tell how that settlement came to be how it was rolled over [10:32] to doj and then the process for uh how for those funds now as it's played out good so thank you thank [10:39] you for the question uh this is going to be the only question i'll take on this matter today so there's [10:44] ongoing litigation so it'd be inappropriate for me to comment uh president trump is a great american who [10:50] has endured more than 10 years 10 years of non-stop harassment and weaponization from the federal and state [10:57] government actors the a bad actor at the irs leaked more than 400 000 tax returns including [11:05] the trump family all the employees and that's how we got here now no american should be targeted for [11:11] political reasons and every citizen deserves fair treatment full protection of the law the department [11:17] of justice represented treasury and the irs in this matter and i'm going to have to refer any questions [11:23] to acting attorney general todd blanche so uh thanks so uh president trump has said that we can [11:32] expect interest rates to come down very quickly a number of times with that last week but the market [11:38] at the moment does probably does not expect any rate cuts this year you know jp morgan said this [11:43] morgan stanley and so on so who is right the president or the market the well i i think again i i believe [11:53] that we will get get through the uh that this challenging period now they are on higher prices [12:00] on the other side of this i've said publicly that i think we'll be back to substantial disinflation [12:05] but most importantly i think we've got the wars fed now it's a new day at the fed the treasury secretary [12:13] and the fed chair have lunch or breakfast every week i had my first breakfast with chair wars this morning [12:19] and i believe that he will do the right thing to balance inflation and growth [12:29] thank you secretary messin uh i hope you were calling on me yes so i i'd like uh to ask you if [12:36] you could provide a little more detail on what you're doing to shut down iran's airlines and also [12:40] on sanctions relief uh a senior administration official brief reporters over the weekend [12:45] that sanctions relief will be commensurate with nuclear concessions but at some point if the [12:51] enriched uranium is given up should we expect pallets of cash to be flown to iran can you describe [12:55] how that looks well a couple of things on the airlines one thing that we're not going to do [13:02] is restrict movement for religious reasons so iranians who want to make the pilgrimage the uh to [13:09] mecca or medina will be allowed we will also allow uh valid humanitarian reasons but the [13:15] the the other thing we can do is that when these airlines fly they have to be refueled they sell [13:20] tickets they pay landing fees anyone who accepts those we will sanction so they should be very clear [13:27] that the state-owned iranian airlines they are outlaws and cannot do this [13:38] since you are the white house briefer today i know you've been asked this already but i'm wondering [13:42] if you could just confirm on the record that there is a tentative deal that has been agreed [13:47] for a 60-day extension of the ceasefire and then a continuation of nuclear talks i think again it's [13:53] always a mistake to get out ahead of the president so it is all going to be the president's decision i [13:59] think that we we can see that the president very clearly stated out stated his three the open the [14:08] street highly enriched uranium no nuclear program so are those things part of the the temporary deal [14:18] right now sir are those three aspects that you just outlined part of the temporary deal that has been [14:23] agreed that if there can be no deal without those why would there be a deal without those [14:32] thanks so much uh for taking the time uh president trump at the cabinet meeting said he thought that [14:37] reducing fraud would help to balance the budget you put out the the goal of getting uh the deficit to [14:44] three percent of these people what's your timeline for achieving that and how do you think the what [14:50] can you say to make the markets given where rates are like kind of process kind of what your plan [14:54] and agenda is well the the gao numbers not my numbers believe that there's about 500 billion a year [15:00] a fraud so uh could we very quickly get 250 billion billion of that the budget deficit is approximately [15:09] 1.8 trillion so that would reduce the the deficit substantially if we could get that 500 billion [15:16] number you know i think it would engender confidence you'd probably also go into a virtue virtuous cycle [15:23] as the budget deficit narrowed interest rates would go down uh no one reports it but last year we [15:30] actually had a fiscal contraction just to remind everyone we inherited the worst budget deficit [15:36] in history in history when we were not in a recession or not at war 6.7 percent we brought [15:43] that down to about 5.5 or 5.4 percent this year i think we'd stay on the good trajectory [15:53] mr secretary uh without an executive order does the u.s government have adequate defenses in place to [15:59] address the risk created by anthropics new ai models we have great collaboration between [16:06] all all of the labs that have the large language models but between the u.s government the uh and the [16:12] labs thank you mr secretary appreciate it um first did you speak with the president uh before this [16:23] briefing did he show any willingness to this 60-day uh ceasefire i i haven't seen the president today [16:30] i just want to follow up when can americans the average american and can the u.s economy work for [16:35] the average american without a deal with the wrong uh again i i believe we've already seen uh oil prices [16:43] come down uh substantially uh we are pumping more oil than we've ever seen before and i i as i said these [16:53] are short-term challenges that we will get over and i think we'll move forward [17:00] secretary just to follow up no no in the light oh thank you mr secretary appreciate it um given how [17:05] much this upcoming midterm election will hinge on the economy what did you think about president [17:10] trump's comments in the cabinet meeting yesterday saying he didn't care about the midterms [17:16] so you're calling president trump a statesman [17:19] you're you're saying that he is taking a statesman-like position that he has a a a core [17:25] belief and he he believes that the most important thing is for iran never to have a nuclear weapon so [17:33] i i believe uh both things can be true that we can do well in the midterms that we [17:40] you know perhaps have the makings of a deal here and i believe that and look the economy that it is [17:50] challenging now but unemployment is still low uh tax refunds were high and consumer spending is still [18:00] quite high so in in my private business over the years i always looked at what were consumers doing [18:06] not what they were saying and i'm in constant contact with the banks and every income quintile [18:13] is still doing well [18:20] on the 250 bill mr secretary uh you said the legalities of it are up on capitol bill but i [18:26] just wonder what your opinion is personally you think it's a good idea for the president to put his [18:31] face on america again the president doesn't do it the house and the senate have to do it [18:36] yeah secretary bessa what are the remaining assurances that president trump needs to see [18:47] in order for him to sign off on the agreement with iraq i i i i don't think it could be clear [18:58] you're um you're following in the footsteps uh the podium there of um secretary rubio and vice [19:03] president vax there's been quite a lot of talk about their present possible presidential ambitions [19:07] uh does your presence here today indicate that we might see you running in 2020 no i i think it [19:12] just means they've run out of things on the food chain there's been some back and forth over the [19:20] last several days and also with the u.s attacking iranian drones yesterday this morning centcom put out [19:26] a statement that iran that launches ballistic missile towards kuwait calling it an egregious ceasefire [19:31] violation how can the administration still argue that a ceasefire is in effect uh again uh with [19:38] with the iranian with the iranian government we did not have regime change but we changed the regime [19:44] as president trump said at the cabinet meeting as we've said other times the first layer of leadership [19:51] the was eliminated the second layer and we're now at the third layer and the way to think about [19:57] it is the iranian government such as it is there is three pillars it is the elected government it is [20:04] the irgc and it is the clerics and they are having trouble communicating so we are being patient we do [20:14] not have unlimited patience president trump always prefers a peace deal so everything we have done thus [20:20] far has been defensive and at present that is what we will continue doing but if president trump doesn't [20:26] think he can get a peace deal then kinetic is back [20:34] thank you mr secretary uh are you hopeful that the oil prices will go down once this company is over [20:40] given the fact that the straighter was remained closed and uh by the time this oil gets to the [20:45] mayor markets could be two or three months uh again the uh you know we we see that the market i believe [20:52] is very well supplied right now the market seems to be going into balance there for itself so i think [20:59] that as the straight opens up we're going to see this burst of ships come out so we may actually see [21:06] how quickly can it be refined how quickly can it get to get to its destination [21:10] so thank you so much from the daily mail you wrote resilience on your cabinet note meetings [21:18] several times the photographer zoomed into it are you trying to keep the president calm are you trying [21:23] to keep yourself calm why did you write all those notes so people could look over my shoulder photograph [21:28] and think they got us good so is the united states considering a reconstruction program [21:38] for iran if a deal is signed uh again i i think we we got to get to the deal before we get to the other [21:45] side before we get to the you in the pink mr secretary uh how effective do you believe the current [21:58] treasury restrictions have been in pressuring the cuban government and also if you're in the room [22:04] when those talks are being held are there any plans to either tighten the sanctions or to ease the [22:10] sanctions against the cuban government to get some type of change again that's going to be up to [22:15] that's going to be up to the cuban government that they can go up they can go down that we've tried [22:20] to get humanitarian aid in and the regime rejected it so because they they wanted to go through their [22:28] corrupt system so i um they could go up they could go down it's carrot carrot and stick secretary rubio [22:37] doing a fantastic job of managing this process and we we at treasury are working with him [22:45] in the red thank you reagan race with the daily caller i want to ask you about antifa [22:50] uh in october the treasury department started working with the fbi to investigate [22:55] who's funding antifa can you give us an update on that investigation how close are you guys finding [23:00] out who's funding it it is ongoing we've made substantial progress and i think in the weeks [23:06] and months ahead we're going to have a lot to report one thing that did go the underreported that [23:12] i would point out to all of you is the irs is now giving guidance on the form 990 which non-profit [23:20] they have to file and we are going to encourage or demand that non-profits know [23:29] their grant recipients so if a grant recipient is violent the if they are suppressing people's rights [23:38] then you are responsible for that and i think that's a very good first step [23:46] there's new government data that shows that americans are now saving a smaller share of their [23:51] incomes than at any time over the past four years are you seeing signs that american households are [23:56] dipping into their savings to pay for the higher costs of things like gas and groceries and does data [24:01] like that can serve you right now well so a little academic literature would tell you lower savings [24:07] rate can mean one of two things uh the kind of the doom review that you took or that people have more [24:13] confidence or it could be you know something else because you know for instance stock market gains or [24:20] 401k gains might not show up in savings so they're looking at that think that they can draw down their [24:26] household savings um you're obviously concerned about the risks posed by advanced ai models like [24:36] mythos to critical infrastructure the financial sector is concerned as well what types of what types [24:42] of changes are being considered to the ai executive order so we can pass and do you believe that an ai [24:48] executive order needs to include the pre-public access for government [24:53] uh again we're working very closely the with the large language labs they've been excellent partners [25:01] and we are going to get a solution that solves for the maximum calculus what we want to do the us is [25:08] the ai leader in the world we're an ai superpower china is second they are trailing substantially we want [25:15] to make sure that we keep that lead so we are working on the exact calculus between innovation and safety [25:22] and we want to optimize for that [25:28] you in the glasses [25:35] no you don't have glasses on you in the glasses thank you for taking my question um there was [25:40] a report this morning that uh justice alito's son is working in your department can you confirm that [25:46] that's the case and if so do you believe that that means that he should be uh that the justice should [25:51] recuse himself from cases that involve your department i i i am sure that mr alito follows [25:57] all legal and ethical guidelines and i can assure you that at treasury we follow all the legal and [26:02] ethical guidelines thank you mr secretary i have two questions for you but just to follow what you [26:08] said about that well you didn't call me doctor so i only got one well um i'll shoot for two uh you [26:14] said that it's up to congress the president's face is on a 250 dollar bill but it is actually the [26:18] washington post that's reporting two political appointees from the treasury department who have [26:22] asked agencies to be ready to to do that do you think politically it's a good idea to put his face [26:27] on a 250 dollar bill when people are struggling again you know i i don't really understand this [26:33] washington post article that who hears from the post yep terribly written terribly edited because [26:39] basically what what it says is that treasury is following the law and that we've created the bill [26:46] and that it's up to congress but that we follow the bill and it's up to i didn't really [26:50] understand what the story was anyway aren't involved in that two of your political appointees yeah of [26:56] course but we we prepare for everything if it gets passed just just like we we were ready six [27:01] months in advance for the one big beautiful bill for tax guidance that so we have to prepare in [27:06] advance you you can't draw something up the day before politically do you think it's a good idea [27:11] though when people are struggling to afford gas and groceries look i think it has i i think that it's [27:16] bifurcated that do you think we should have a 250th anniversary the uh celebration well that's happening [27:24] anyway but no no no no no but caitlin it's not happening anyway it's happening because it's [27:30] being funded the uh by private citizens by the federal government by state governments by municipal [27:35] governments to celebrate our country and i i don't think that the uh there's anything untoward about [27:41] having the president united states that the person who was president united states on the 250th anniversary [27:47] bill [28:02] is it accurate that the general counsel of the treasury department resigned over that [28:06] i will not be taking any other questions i mean i will not be taking any other questions [28:10] you know on the sanctions given the scale of the assault from russia on kiev in recent days and [28:17] the fact that diplomacy seems to have settled down there is no diplomatic talks happening right now [28:23] between russia ukraine or the u.s what about sanctions is the u.s considering sanctions on [28:29] russia at this time well the the u.s this administration has put the the hardest sanctions on russia of any [28:35] country so so let's let's review let's review what how the sanctions regime has gone since the russian [28:46] action the uh on ukraine uh biden administration put on very the what i would call mild mild sanctions [28:54] because they were worried about gasoline prices going up into an election it would be the uh an [29:00] unstatesman like sanctions the probably the worst national security advisor in the history of the [29:05] country jake sullivan in an act of bravery on his way out the door in january they raised the sanction [29:12] level they on behalf of the trump administration they we let those in situ they when we took office [29:20] they have fast forward to october and president trump instructed me to sanction the two largest russian [29:28] oil companies luke oil and rosneft which we did no other government has done that so [29:35] so no one has done more sanctions than the trump administration on russian oil [29:44] so yeah no no no no no no here here who wants to own this gray hair no gray hair [29:56] no you don't have gray hair well maybe you do [30:04] when you had breakfast this morning with the chair uh did you request that the fed lower interest rates [30:11] i i had breakfast with chair powell 41 times and i never did that [30:15] last question uh governor gavin newsom has floated this idea of a hundred percent state tax on [30:27] californians who receive money from president uh trump's anti-weaponization fund your response to the [30:33] governor's call there's no cure for stupid okay okay thank you all

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