'Walang hadlang': Ex-Corona lawyer says impeachment court has power to subpoena VP financial records

[0:00] One of the things that is one of the defense lawyers in impeachment trial [0:03] of Chief Justice Renato Corona, [0:05] is that there is no legal law [0:07] at the Senate impeachment court [0:10] that is the case of financial records of V.P. Duterte. [0:14] It's not even the case of attorney Jose Roy III [0:16] that they can't use the principle of privacy [0:19] to not release the documents [0:22] because one official is a public official is not as well. [0:26] May kapangyarihan ng impeachment court, buksan ang lahat ng iyan [0:32] dahil nga sila ang huling kumahatol sa mga bagay ng accountability. [0:39] Legally speaking, walang hadlang. [0:41] Walang makapagpipigil sa impeachment court na buksan yung mga dokumento na iyan. [0:47] Kung paano nila gagamitin at kung ano nila laman ng mga ito, [0:50] yun ang kailangan natin abangan. [0:52] Pero pag inisyohan sa P na iyan ng impeachment court, [0:55] palagay ko tutupad yung BIR at ibibigay. [1:01] Ngayong araw, papasok na sa ikatlong linggo [1:03] ang impeachment trial ni Vice President Sara Duterte [1:06] at malalaman din ngayon ang boto ng mga Sen. Judge [1:10] sa hiling ng prosecution na buksan ang bank and tax records [1:14] ni Vice President Sara Duterte [1:16] bilang ebidensya sa kanyang paglilitis. [1:18] Magandang hapon. [1:19] Ako po si Carmina Constantino [1:21] at ito ang ABS-CBN Special Coverage [1:23] ng impeachment trial ni Vice President Sara Duterte. [1:26] Pitchman trial of Vice President Sara Duterte. [1:43] Simple lang po ang isyong kinakaharap natin [1:46] ngayong hapon na ito. [1:48] Pero napakabigat. [1:50] Bubuksan ba natin ang pinto ng katotohanan [1:53] o haharangin ito? [1:54] It is merely issued for the very purpose [2:03] that there is a hope that somewhere, somehow, [2:08] something incriminating will come out. [2:11] It ceases to be an instrument of justice. [2:16] It becomes a weapon of a fishing expedition. [2:19] The Vice President's financial activity [2:28] as Vice Mayor and Mayor of Davao City [2:31] relates directly to the main fact and issue in this case, [2:35] fitness or unfitness to serve as Vice President. [2:46] If a Sabina is not narrowly tailored, [2:49] it is oppressive. [3:07] Day 7 ng makasaysayang impeachment trial [3:10] ng ikalawang Pangulo at mainit pa rin [3:12] ang balitaktakan [3:13] ukol sa mga tax at bank records [3:15] ni Vice President Sara Duterte. [3:18] Narito ang report ni Jervis Manahan. [3:20] Hindi ko maiisip on my own eh. [3:22] Sa Facebook live video ngayong Sabado, [3:24] nagpaalala ang magkapatid na sinasenators [3:26] Alan Peter at Pia Cayetano [3:28] sa pagsunod ng panuntunan o rules [3:31] sa pagpapasabpina ng mga dokumento ng buwis, [3:34] bank account at transactions [3:36] ni Vice President Sara Duterte. [3:38] Kasunod ito ng mainit ang diskusyon [3:40] sa Senate Impeachment Court [3:41] kung dapat panghingin ang mga dokumento [3:44] kaugnay ng buwis ng bise [3:45] na mapapakitaan nila ng tunay niyang kayamanan. [3:49] Halimbawa, hindi ko siya gusto. [3:51] So pwede ko bang tawagan na kagad [3:52] yung AMLA, yung BIR at saka yung [3:54] Supina. [3:55] Supina kunin yung ano. [3:57] Kasi ganun ang parang isang lumalabas [3:59] dito sa kabila. [4:00] My point is pagka kasi may rules, [4:03] protection natin lahat yun. [4:04] And that's the reason why we have rules. [4:06] I cannot help but think of this example. [4:09] Basketball nga, may rules, di ba? [4:11] Pag nakailang foul ka, out ka. [4:13] Di ba may rules? [4:13] There are always rules. [4:16] Sa panig ng House Prosecution, [4:18] iginagalang nila ang mga individual na posisyon [4:20] ng Senator Judges. [4:22] At susunod sila sa iigal na desisyon [4:24] ng buong impeachment court. [4:26] We could comply whatever would be the decision [4:29] of the impeachment court. [4:30] Pero ang position po ng House Prosecution panel [4:32] as aptly discussed and explained by [4:35] Congressman Diokno, [4:36] meron pong extraordinary kapangyarihan [4:39] ang impeachment court to ferret out the truth. [4:43] Sang-ayon si Adyong na dapat naprotektahan [4:45] ang confidentiality ng bank records. [4:47] Pero hindi anila ito dapat maging pananggalang [4:50] sa pananagutan. [4:52] Hindi pa naman Ania Pinal ang desisyon [4:54] kung isang sa pinang tax records [4:55] ng pangalawang Pangulo [4:56] at patuloy itong pag-uusapan sa lunes, [4:59] July 20. [5:00] This is not to directly hold the respondent guilty [5:04] of the accusation, [5:06] but this is merely to allow the court [5:08] to exercise its constitutional exclusive powers [5:11] to get to the bottom of this [5:13] by securing and obtaining documents and evidence [5:17] that will give them more leeway [5:20] and more reference to be able to arrive [5:23] into a just and impartial judgment. [5:26] Sinubukang kuhanin ng ABS-CBN News [5:28] ang panig niyang depensa pero wala pa silang tugon. [5:31] Gayunman na una na nilang iginiit [5:33] na dapat igalang ang due process [5:34] sa pagsabpina ng mga dokumento ng BSE. [5:37] Unang-una sa lahat, [5:38] pagating sa pag-issue ng sappina, [5:40] first is definiteness. [5:42] Ibig sabihin nun, [5:43] kailangan particularly describe [5:45] kung ano yung gusto mong isapina. [5:48] Pangalawa, it has to be relevant. [5:49] Kailangan natin malaman, [5:50] pwede ba yung mga bagay na sinasapina [5:53] o hindi under our laws? [5:55] Iginiit ni House Prosecutor [5:57] at Bicol Saro Partylist Representative Terry Redon [6:00] na tiwala ang kapo ng mga tagausig [6:02] na makukumbinsi ang impeachment court [6:05] na ipakuha at masuri ang mga naturang dokumento. [6:08] Wala ko dapat na debate [6:09] doon po sa pagsabpina ng mga bank accounts. [6:13] Ito po ay very clear exceptions [6:16] sa bank secrecy law. [6:18] Nagpaalala naman ang grupong [6:20] August 21 movement sa mga senator judge. [6:22] Sa nangyari matapos harangin [6:25] ang pagbubukas ng tinaguriang second envelope [6:27] sa impeachment trial [6:28] ni dating Pangulong Joseph Estrada [6:30] noong 2001, [6:32] nakiusap sila sa mga senator judges [6:34] na tumindig sa tama at totoo, [6:37] manatili sa tamang panig [6:38] ng kasaysayan [6:39] at gamitin gabay [6:41] ang mga aral nito [6:42] sa kanilang patapasya sa issue. [6:44] Samantala, [6:45] sinabi naman ni dating Supreme Court [6:47] Associate Justice Antonio Carpio [6:48] na dapat two-thirds lang [6:50] ng mga senator judges [6:51] na physical na nasa korte [6:53] ang kailangan para makonvict si Duterte. [6:56] You have to remove those [6:58] who are not present [7:01] like Bato [7:03] because he will not be present [7:04] because they require [7:06] physical presence to vote [7:08] and you have to remove those [7:11] who have been officially suspended [7:14] that means [7:16] Marcoleta [7:17] and [7:18] and [7:19] Chingoy [7:21] because [7:21] the moment you are [7:23] charged with [7:25] plunder [7:26] there's a provision [7:28] in the plunder law [7:29] which says [7:29] you shall be suspended [7:31] that's automatic [7:33] mandatory yan eh [7:34] so [7:35] if you're suspended [7:36] you cannot vote. [7:38] Pero hindi pa naman [7:39] aniya panahon [7:40] para pag-usapan ito [7:41] dahil pwede pa naman [7:43] itong talakayin [7:44] sa oras [7:44] ng botohan. [7:46] Jervis Manahan [7:47] EBS-CBN News. [7:51] Puntahan natin sa Senado [7:52] si Victoria Tulad [7:53] para sa pinakabagong kaganapan [7:54] dyan sa impeachment court [7:55] kasama ni Victoria [7:56] ang isa sa tagapagsalita [7:58] ng House Prosecution Panel [7:59] former Congressman [8:00] Robert Ace Barbers. [8:02] Victoria, [8:02] Congressman, [8:03] over to you guys. [8:06] Hi Carmina, [8:07] si Congressman [8:08] former Congressman Barbers [8:09] din ay impeachment [8:10] advisor [8:11] prosecutor [8:12] advisor ng prosecution [8:13] panel. [8:14] So, [8:14] sir, [8:15] for today [8:15] syempre [8:16] we will continue [8:17] yung discussion [8:19] on the request [8:20] ng prosecution [8:20] para sa isabtina [8:21] yung tax, [8:23] bank, [8:23] at AMLOC records [8:24] ng BC [8:25] at ng kanyang asawa. [8:26] Paano po kukumbinsahin [8:27] ng prosecution [8:29] ang senator judges [8:30] na i-grant [8:31] yung inyong request? [8:33] Nakita, [8:33] klarong-klaro [8:34] dun sa oral arguments [8:35] ni Congressman [8:36] ni Congressman [8:36] Chell Jokno [8:37] na may mga [8:39] precedents [8:40] kung saan [8:42] pinapayagan [8:44] yung pagbubukas [8:44] ng mga [8:45] bank records [8:46] na ito [8:47] at AMLOC records [8:48] during an impeachment. [8:50] Very clear po yan [8:51] sa ating [8:51] mga statute. [8:53] Pangalawa, [8:54] may president nga. [8:55] Yun nga, [8:55] in the previous [8:56] impeachment [8:56] of CJ Corona, [8:58] the impeachment [9:00] court [9:01] also examined [9:02] and allowed [9:03] to subpina [9:05] these [9:05] and other [9:07] bank records [9:08] of the former [9:08] chief justice. [9:09] And definitely, [9:11] itong [9:11] nakasandal [9:13] sa provisyo [9:13] ng ating [9:14] saligang batas. [9:15] Kapag [9:15] accountability [9:17] mechanism [9:17] ang pinag-uusapan [9:18] o yung sinasabi [9:19] nating [9:20] accountability, [9:22] nothing prevails [9:24] over that [9:25] except that [9:26] when examining [9:28] these records, [9:29] the main objective [9:30] is to bring out [9:31] the truth. [9:32] Yun naman ang talagang [9:33] layunin [9:34] itong [9:34] pagsampina [9:36] itong mga records [9:37] na ito. [9:38] Pero ang punto nga po [9:39] ng defense team [9:40] last Wednesday [9:41] ng oral arguments [9:42] is due process pa rin [9:43] for the vice president. [9:44] At mayroong mga batas, [9:46] National Internal Revenue Code [9:47] which prevents us [9:48] from opening [9:49] the tax records. [9:51] Paano nyo po [9:51] ilalaban [9:52] yung inyong [9:53] punto for that? [9:54] In the same law [9:55] that they actually cited, [9:56] meron ding provision [9:57] doon that allows [9:58] the examination [9:59] of all these records, [10:01] all these [10:01] statements [10:03] during an impeachment. [10:06] So, [10:06] merong exemption. [10:07] Merong sinasabi [10:08] doon pagtayag [10:09] ang batas [10:10] na pwede mong [10:11] suriin [10:11] itong mga dokumentong [10:13] ito [10:13] sa isang paglilitis [10:15] gaya ng impeachment. [10:16] So, [10:17] yes, [10:17] they're correct [10:18] that the due process [10:19] must be [10:21] well-preserved [10:22] and this is [10:23] part of the due process. [10:25] Para din malaman natin [10:26] ang katotohanan. [10:28] And we cannot [10:28] use the [10:29] due process [10:31] terminology [10:33] just to [10:34] cover up [10:34] for the truth. [10:35] Ang atin [10:36] ay katotohanan. [10:37] Gusto natin [10:38] mailabas [10:38] ang katotohanan [10:39] at para mailabas [10:40] ito, [10:41] kailangan natin [10:41] ng mga [10:42] ebidensya. [10:42] So, [10:43] let's say po [10:43] na pumayag [10:44] i-grant [10:45] ang request [10:46] ng prosecution [10:47] pero doon po [10:48] sa tax records [10:48] ang sinasabi [10:49] kailangan pa rin [10:50] ng authorization [10:51] mula sa [10:51] Pangulo ng Bansa [10:52] or waiver [10:53] mula sa [10:54] Vice Presidente. [10:55] Ang prosecution po ba [10:56] anong ginagawa nyo [10:57] para makuha [10:57] ang authorization [10:58] ng Pangulo? [10:59] Well, [10:59] we first [11:00] ask the [11:02] approval of the [11:03] impeachment court [11:04] to allow [11:05] these records [11:06] to be subpinad. [11:08] And if [11:09] this will not [11:10] be granted [11:11] by the [11:11] impeachment court [11:12] then we can [11:13] resort to [11:14] asking the [11:15] President [11:16] because that's [11:16] what the law [11:17] says. [11:18] Na pwedeng payagan [11:19] na basta may [11:20] approval ng ating [11:21] Pangulo. [11:22] So, [11:22] baka dun kami [11:22] pumunta. [11:23] But we are [11:24] confident that [11:25] we will be able [11:26] to get yung [11:27] approval ng ating [11:27] impeachment court [11:28] dito sa [11:29] mga dokumentong [11:31] pinapasabpina [11:32] natin. [11:33] Pero ang sabi po [11:34] ng Senator Judges [11:34] like Senator Irwin [11:35] Tulfo, [11:36] kahit i-grant yan [11:37] ng impeachment [11:38] court, [11:39] BIR pa rin [11:40] ang hihingi [11:41] sa President [11:42] ng authorization [11:43] hindi ang impeachment [11:44] court. [11:44] Oh yes, [11:45] yun ang magiging [11:46] basihan. [11:47] And then we will [11:47] request the BIR [11:49] to ask permission [11:50] or authority [11:51] from the President [11:52] as provided for [11:53] in the law [11:53] para mabigyan [11:55] ng kopya [11:56] o magpayagan [11:57] na ma-examine [11:58] ng korte [11:59] o ng impeachment [12:00] court [12:00] itong mga records [12:01] na ito. [12:02] In the event, [12:03] sir, [12:03] na hindi [12:04] pagbigyan [12:04] ng impeachment [12:05] court, [12:06] meron pa bang [12:06] ebidensyang [12:07] ipipresenta [12:07] ang prosecution [12:09] team [12:09] regarding dito [12:10] sa supposedly [12:11] unexplained wealth [12:12] ng vice-presidente? [12:12] Yes, [12:13] meron parami pa. [12:14] In fact, [12:14] these are all [12:15] part of the [12:16] legal strategy [12:17] ng prosecution [12:18] at makikita [12:20] natin yan [12:20] once they present [12:21] these records, [12:25] this evidence [12:26] that they have [12:27] when we tackle [12:29] the first article, [12:30] yung article 1. [12:32] Muli, sir, [12:32] para sa benefit [12:33] ng ating mga [12:34] tagapakinig [12:35] ng ating viewers, [12:35] gaano ba kahalaga [12:36] na pag-usapan [12:37] itong supposedly [12:38] unexplained wealth [12:38] na dinedeny [12:39] ng vice-presidente? [12:40] Napakahalaga, [12:41] kasi dyan mo makikita, [12:43] nakalagay kasi [12:44] a public office [12:45] is a public trust. [12:47] Yan nakalagay [12:47] sa ating saligang batas. [12:49] Ang ibig pong sabihin yan, [12:51] the public officer [12:52] must be at all times. [12:54] Ibig sabihin, [12:55] sa lahat ng pagkakataon, [12:56] dapat ika'y [12:57] trustworthy [12:59] sa tiwalang [13:01] ibinigay [13:02] ng taong bayan sa'yo. [13:03] And by doing so, [13:05] you have to [13:05] perform your duty [13:07] in accordance [13:08] with the Constitution. [13:09] Hindi ka mandarambong, [13:11] hindi ka aabuso, [13:13] hindi ka mag-violate [13:14] ng whatever law [13:15] na meron tayo. [13:16] At igit sa lahat, [13:17] hindi ka magnanakaw. [13:19] And all these things [13:21] are provided for [13:21] in our Constitution. [13:23] At kapag ito [13:24] yung na-violate mo, [13:26] ang ibig sabihin lang niyan, [13:27] you betrayed [13:28] the public trust, [13:29] therefore, [13:30] you're not fit [13:30] a second longer, [13:32] a minute longer [13:33] to serve in your office. [13:34] Alright. [13:35] Thank you, [13:36] former congressman [13:36] ace barbers. [13:37] Carmina, [13:38] baka may katanuan ka [13:38] para kay congressman barbers. [13:40] Actually, [13:41] meron, [13:41] Victoria, [13:42] congressman barbers, [13:44] magandang hapon po ulit [13:45] sa inyo. [13:47] Magiging mainit [13:48] ang talakayan mamaya. [13:49] Hindi pa natin alam [13:50] kung paano magdidesisyon [13:51] ng ating mga senator judges. [13:52] Pero, [13:53] sa parte ng prosecution, [13:55] congressman barbers, [13:56] ano ang katanggap-tanggap [13:59] sa inyo [14:00] kung magkaroon man [14:01] ng kompromiso, [14:03] kung hindi lahat [14:04] ng inyong hinihingi [14:06] ay maibigay [14:07] ng impeachment court? [14:11] Well, [14:12] honestly, [14:13] Carmina, [14:14] thank you. [14:14] First of all, [14:15] thank you for having me. [14:16] Unang-una, [14:17] hindi dapat [14:18] magkaroon ng [14:19] compromise [14:19] dito sa usapin [14:21] ng ebidensya [14:23] na sinasabpina [14:24] ng prosecution panel. [14:25] Dahil dito po, [14:26] sa likod nitong [14:26] mga ebidensyang ito [14:28] ay lalabas [14:28] ang sinasabi nating [14:29] katotohanan. [14:30] And we cannot [14:31] cover the truth [14:32] with legalities [14:34] and all these things [14:35] that are [14:36] actually [14:39] what the defense [14:40] is saying. [14:42] Kasi, [14:43] maliwanag naman po [14:44] sa ating mga batas [14:45] na pinapayagan po ito, [14:46] lalong-lalong na [14:47] kapag panahon [14:49] sa paglilitis [14:50] during an impeachment trial. [14:51] So, [14:52] congressman, [14:52] kapag binato sa inyo [14:54] or mamaya, [14:55] kapag inilatag [14:56] na kailangan [14:57] ng specificity, [14:59] definitiveness, [14:59] and relevancy [15:00] at hindi [15:01] pwedeng magkaroon [15:03] ng phishing expedition [15:04] with regard to [15:05] these bank records [15:07] and tax records [15:08] na hinahanap po [15:09] ng prosecution. [15:10] Pag dumating na po [15:11] dun sa ganoong [15:12] usapin [15:13] at hindi lahat [15:15] ng gusto niyong [15:15] makuang bank records [15:17] ay maibibigay, [15:18] hindi yun katanggap-tanggap [15:20] sa inyo. [15:20] So, [15:20] it's all or nothing [15:21] para sa prosecution. [15:26] No, [15:26] we will resort [15:26] to other legal means [15:28] provided for [15:29] by law. [15:30] Ang ibig sabihin yan, [15:32] itong kasing [15:33] mga documents [15:34] na ito, [15:34] aside from it [15:35] being allowed [15:36] in an impeachment trial, [15:39] pwedeng suriin ito [15:40] ng impeachment court. [15:42] Bukod doon, [15:42] may mga presidents [15:44] din tayo [15:44] na nangyari. [15:46] In fact, [15:46] they cannot turn there [15:47] because I think [15:48] if I'm not mistaken, [15:49] walo doon [15:50] sa dating judges [15:51] during the [15:51] corona impeachment [15:52] are still members [15:53] of the Senate today. [15:55] And I'm sure [15:57] na ganun din [15:57] ng kanilang boto [15:58] dahil pinagbotohan [15:59] nila ito noon [16:00] at sila pumayag, [16:01] nabuksan [16:01] ng mga bank records [16:03] ni dating [16:03] Chief Justice [16:04] sa corona. [16:06] Now, [16:07] our resort [16:09] maybe is that [16:10] we will insist [16:11] and fight it out. [16:12] We will again [16:14] appeal to the [16:15] good census [16:16] of the members [16:18] of the impeachment [16:18] court [16:19] to reconsider [16:20] if their decision [16:22] does not [16:23] merit the approval [16:25] of the prosecution. [16:26] Just as a final [16:27] question, [16:27] Congressman Barber, [16:28] tatayo ba [16:29] ang strategiya [16:30] ng prosekusyon [16:33] kung isa, [16:34] dalawa, [16:35] lamang dun sa tatlong [16:36] hinihingi ninyo? [16:38] Again, [16:38] it's bank records, [16:40] BIR records [16:41] and the AMLAC records. [16:42] Kung dalawa lang dun [16:43] or isa lang dun [16:44] na ang ibigay, [16:45] tatayo pa rin ho ba [16:46] ang strategiya [16:48] ng prosekusyon? [16:50] Well, [16:51] ako naniniwala ko [16:52] na tatayo ito [16:53] because the point [16:55] that we want [16:55] to prove, [16:56] that's why [16:56] if you recall [16:58] in the oral arguments [17:00] and when we requested [17:01] for a subpina [17:02] of all these records, [17:05] we were specific, [17:06] the prosecution panel [17:07] specifically sinabi [17:10] kung ano itong [17:10] mga records [17:11] na gusto natin. [17:12] Hindi naman po [17:12] lahat ng records [17:13] ng ating vice president [17:15] ay sinasabpina natin. [17:16] There are specific [17:17] bank accounts, [17:19] there are specific [17:20] financial transaction records [17:22] from the BIR [17:22] that we wanted [17:24] to subpina [17:24] or that we are [17:26] issuing a subpina on. [17:28] Kasi nga, [17:29] matibay na ito [17:30] na magpapatibay [17:32] dun sa allegation [17:33] na merong unexplained wealth. [17:35] If the documents [17:36] will not match [17:37] the declaration [17:38] of wealth [17:39] in the sal end [17:41] of the vice president [17:42] and her husband, [17:44] so definitely [17:45] merong malaking [17:46] question mark. [17:47] Ito'y tatayo [17:48] kahit isa [17:49] o dalawa doon [17:50] sa aming hiniling [17:51] pero syempre [17:52] mas magandang [17:52] kumpletong picture [17:54] ang makita natin. [17:56] Gusto natin [17:56] kabuhang litrato, [17:59] hindi yung [17:59] kumbaga sa picture, [18:01] hindi yung one by one [18:02] lang, [18:02] kailangan full body. [18:03] Full body [18:04] pero one by one, [18:05] payag ka? [18:09] Yung one by one, [18:10] medyo [18:11] maliit lang yun. [18:12] Kalahati lang yun. [18:13] So we have to [18:14] release a pina [18:17] and get as much as possible [18:19] the full body picture. [18:20] Okay. [18:21] Congressman, [18:21] it's a clarificatory [18:22] question lang po [18:23] kasi may balita [18:25] na si NBI Director [18:27] Melvin Matibag [18:29] ay magte-testify [18:30] ngayong araw. [18:31] Tama ho ba yun [18:32] o bukas pa siya? [18:35] Bukas pa siya [18:36] nakaschedule. [18:37] Today is devoted [18:38] for the decision [18:40] as a result [18:42] of the [18:43] caucus made [18:44] by the senators [18:45] last week. [18:46] So ngayon [18:47] lalabas yung [18:47] decision na yan [18:48] at pwede rin silang [18:50] magtanong [18:50] sa ating mga [18:51] either sa defense [18:53] or sa prosecution [18:54] panel [18:55] ng kanila mga [18:56] katanungan. [18:57] And tomorrow [18:58] will be the [18:59] scheduled [19:00] Director Melvin [19:04] Matibag's [19:05] testimony. [19:06] As our last [19:08] witness dito [19:09] sa Article 4. [19:10] Okay, got it. [19:11] Maraming salamat [19:11] former Congressman [19:12] Robert E. Barbers [19:13] sa nagsisilbing [19:14] impeachment advisor [19:16] ng prosecution panel [19:17] at ang ating kasamahan [19:18] si Victoria Tulad [19:19] nag-uulat naman [19:20] ng live mula [19:20] dyan sa Senado. [19:21] Maraming salamat po [19:22] sa inyong dalawa. [19:22] Maraming salamat po [19:25] sa inyong dalawa. [19:26] Maraming salamat po [19:27] sa inyong dalawa. [19:28] Maraming salamat po