Senate holds joint hearing on 4Ps Act and Sustainable Livelihood Program — April 7, 2026

[10:27] joining us in this uh hearing the joint public meeting of the committees on social justice [10:33] welfare and rural development finance and trade commerce and entrepreneurship is hereby called [10:38] to order for today's uh hearing the committees will deliberate on two actually three main topics [10:49] one the four proposed uh legislative measure which seeks to amend republic act number one one three [10:59] one zero or the pantawid familia filipino program of four p's act and the proposed legislation [11:08] institutionalization of the sustainable livelihood program of dswd and number three i'll be asking [11:14] questions in our agencies later on if we still if we have funds to uh help out our kababayans [11:27] during this crisis i have seen reports people are asking [11:33] suggesting as as a matter of fact some lawmakers are suggesting to trigger or to uh start studying [11:42] the implementation of bayanihan three the question now it sounds good on paper but do we have enough [11:50] funds for this by any hand act uh like what we did during uh the pandemic do we have enough [11:57] funds because we did not anticipate this uh crisis [12:07] that's a front line ito of course our department of labor and employment if they have funds for this [12:15] what if this crisis will last for another month or two can we sustain it i mean all this ayuda [12:33] of fact i don't know we're also conducting this hearing later to find out [12:40] what options do we have are these agencies dswd dole da uh dti do we have uh funding for all these [12:52] to sustain and then how far do we go are we only going to concentrate on the poorest of the poor [12:59] are we only going to help the transport sector what about those people earning minimum wage [13:12] my clerk janitor [13:14] security guards new sila above minimum wage [13:21] below minimum wage can we take care of these people they also need help [13:28] transport sector farmers fisher folks [13:35] for peace but also also this this people let us not forget [13:42] i mean i've been reading the newspapers we're so focused [13:46] not in my ear [13:47] about the backbone of our ikanga labor force the people in the supermarkets the buggers [13:57] the cashiers the janitors janitress security guards um will they also get financial assistance [14:08] from the government yeah it's the places to pag-usapan then we'll be i will be asking the [14:14] various agencies kong kasi i keep on reading we're so focused in several sectors but what about this [14:22] sector those are the agencies that we're so focused in several sectors but what about this sector those [14:23] who are earning minimum wage or below minimum wage will they also benefit i mean will they be [14:30] given assistance by the government [14:32] or how [14:34] nothing [14:37] so when we talk of ayudar ladies and gentlemen we also have to look at everybody [14:41] torturing the poverty [14:43] these young [14:43] poor's [14:44] transport sector farmers [14:47] fishermen [14:48] fø лайanc [14:49] what about middle class [14:50] cool [14:51] australia [14:52] let's not forget these people [14:53] trees [14:54] poor [14:55] Addingaco [14:55] indonesias [14:57] Andesas [14:57] so let's not forget this ladies and gentlemen anyway um so all those four uh we will be talking [15:16] about later and at this point let me recognize our committee secretary to read the record [15:21] and the agenda and to acknowledge the resource persons in this joint public hearing [15:25] comsec go ahead please thank you mr chair good morning to everyone um the committee will resume [15:34] discussions on the following bills which take to a man republic of number 11 310 otherwise known as [15:41] the pantawid pamilyang filipino program act we have senate bill number 31 and expanding the [15:48] pantawid pamilyang filipino program for peace amending for the purpose republic act number 11 [15:56] known as the pantawid pamilyang filipino program act introduced by senator panfilo m laxon [16:03] senate bill number 1344 an act strengthening the pantawid pamilyang filipino program through parent [16:11] leaders adult education program introduced by senator risa hontiberas senate bill number 1487 [16:20] an act expanding the coverage of pantawid filipino program amending certain sections of republic act [16:27] number 11310 otherwise known as the pantawid pamilyang filipino program act and for other [16:35] purposes introduced by senator jinkoi ejercito estrada and senate bill number 1496 an act [16:42] promoting entrepreneurship and livelihood for sustainable development amending for the purpose [16:49] republic act number 11310 otherwise known as an act institutionalizing the pantawid pamilyang [16:56] filipino program amending for the purpose republic act number one one three one zero otherwise known as an act institutionalizing the pantawid pamilyang filipino program [16:57] introduced by Senator Manuel Lito M. Latin. [17:01] The committees will also have its initial hearing on the following bills [17:06] which seek to institutionalize the Sustainable Livelihood Program [17:11] of the Department of Social Welfare and Development. [17:14] We have Senate Bill No. 766, an Act Institutionalizing Sustainable Livelihood Program, SLP, [17:22] of the Department of Social Welfare and Development, [17:25] Appropriating Funds Therefore and for Other Purposes, introduced by Senator Erwin T. Tulfo, [17:32] and Senate Bill No. 787, an Act Institutionalizing the Sustainable Livelihood Program [17:39] and Appropriating Funds Therefore, introduced by Senator Lauren Legarda. [17:45] The committees also would like to acknowledge the following resource persons. [17:49] From the Department of Social Welfare and Development, [17:53] we have Undersecretary Aliyah Q. Dimaporo, [17:56] Assistant Secretary Marites Amaristela, [18:02] Assistant Secretary Elaine Falyak-Kurna, [18:08] From the Department of Budget and Management, [18:11] we have Attorney Tricia Baraan, [18:15] From the Attending Online, [18:22] we have from the Department of the Interior and Local Government, [18:27] we have Ms. Evelyn Castro, [18:30] from the Department of the Interior and Local Government, [18:31] from the Department of the Interior and Local Government, [18:32] we have Ms. Evelyn Castro, [18:32] From the Department of Labor and Employment, [18:34] we have Ms. Adeline De Castro, [18:37] Assistant Secretary Adeline De Castro, [18:40] from the Department of Trade and Industry, [18:44] we have Assistant Director Susan May Salonga, [18:49] and Senior Vice President Angelito Acupan, [18:54] from the National Anti-Poverty Commission, [18:58] we have Attorney Andre Nicolo Tayag, [19:01] from the Department of Labor and Employment, [19:05] from the Technical Education and Skills Development Authority, [19:09] we have Ms. Maria Linda Andrade, [19:12] from the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples, [19:19] we have Mr. Reynaldo Dingal, [19:21] from the Department of Information and Communications Technology, [19:27] we have Assistant Secretary Maria Victoria Castro, [19:32] good morning ma'am. [19:33] Attending Online, we have from the Department of Health, [19:37] we have Ms. Maria Lee Alpuerto, [19:41] from the National Nutrition Council, [19:43] and Mr. John Daniel Gonzalez and Ms. Maria Edda Maningar. [19:49] From the Department of Education, [19:53] we have Dr. Marileth Almeida, [19:56] good morning ma'am. [19:57] From the Department of Agriculture, [20:00] we have Director Lorna Belinda Calda, [20:03] good morning ma'am. [20:04] From the Department of Science and Technology, [20:08] we have Ms. Johnalyn Morales, [20:10] good morning ma'am. [20:12] From the Commission on Higher Education, [20:14] we have Mr. Arnold Ancheta, [20:17] good morning sir. [20:18] From the Philippine Statistics Authority, [20:21] we have Attorney Henedine Palabras, [20:25] good morning ma'am. [20:28] And Ms. Janine Faye Fernandez, [20:32] good morning ma'am. [20:34] From the Philippine Gaming and Amusement Corporation, [20:38] we have Attorney Janine Marian Javier, [20:42] good morning ma'am. [20:43] From the Philippine Charities Whipstakes Office, [20:48] we have Attorney Lauro Patiag and Ms. Arnel Casas, [20:53] good morning sirs. [20:55] From the National Electrification Administration, [20:58] we have Attorney Rosanne Roseroly, [21:02] good morning ma'am. [21:04] From the Union of Local Authorities of the Philippines, [21:07] we have Mr. Edmund Quaresma, [21:10] good morning sir. [21:11] From the League of Provinces of the Philippines, [21:14] we have Director Angelica Sanchez, [21:15] good morning ma'am. [21:21] From the League of Municipal, [21:24] from the Philippine Institute of Development Studies, [21:27] we have Ms. Chrisanne Melad, [21:29] good morning sir. [21:32] From the Samahan na Nagkakaisang Pamilya ng Pantawid Incorporated, [21:36] we have Ms. Melanie Cervantes, [21:39] good morning ma'am. [21:42] I think I have recognized everybody. [21:44] That is all, Mr. Chair. [21:48] Thank you, Committee Secretary. [21:56] To our resource briefers, [21:58] since President here today, [22:01] guests and fellow Filipinos, [22:03] magandang umaga po sa ating lahat. [22:05] Today's agenda focuses on two cornerstone measures [22:09] in our nation's fight against poverty. [22:11] First, the proposed amendments to the Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program, [22:16] a priority measure under the Legislative Executive Development Advisory Council, [22:21] or LEDOC, [22:22] and second, institutionalization of the Sustainable Livelihood Program [22:27] of the Department of Social Welfare and Development. [22:30] We had the initial hearing, [22:32] on the four-piece bills last month on March 3, 2026. [22:36] As a quick recap of that public hearing, [22:38] na pag-usapan na po natin ang pangangailangang mas palakasin pa [22:42] at gawing mas tumutugon ang programa sa kasalukuyang kalagayan ng ating mga binipisyaryo. [22:47] Ngayon, layunin natin na mas laliman pa ang indiskusyon [22:52] upang matiyak na ang mga reforma hindi lamang technical kundi tunay [22:56] na makabuluhan sa buhay ng mga pamilya na ating pinaglilingkuran. [23:01] Sa aming pong nakapanayam, [23:03] Sa aming pong nakapanayam, [23:04] marami pa rin hinain sa kasalukuyang sistema ng four-piece. [23:08] Bagaman ito ay nakakatulong sa kanilang pangaraw-araw na pamumuhay. [23:13] Let's listen. [23:14] Hindi naman halos lahat ng kasali sa four-piece yung deserve nila. [23:18] Yung iba nakikianong sa four-piece kahit kaya naman nila. [23:22] Yung bang dapat talaga, parang kianong talaga ng government kung sino talaga yung nangangailangan. [23:28] Kahit may kaya naman kasali sa four-piece. [23:31] May ba? [23:32] Hindi po. [23:34] Kasi ayaw mo po kung bakit. [23:35] Dapat po talagang baguhin. [23:38] Maraming hindi nakakatanggap. [23:40] Hindi ko alam kung saan ang mali pero dapat talagang baguhin. [23:48] Habang ang four-piece ay patuloy nagbibigay ng agarang tulong, [23:55] kailangan din nating siguraduhin na ito ay nagsisilbing tulay tungkol sa pangmatagalang pag-unlad ng ating mga kababayan. [24:02] Hindi lamang pansamantalang ginhawa kundi pangmatagalang pag-angat sa kahirapan. [24:07] Also, we will hold the initial hearing and the proposed institutionalization. [24:11] of Sustainable Livelihood Program or SLP of the SWD. [24:16] Ito ay isang mahalagang hakbang upang gawing mas matibay, mas tuloy-tuloy at efektibo ang programang naglalayong bigyan ng kakayahan at oportunidad [24:25] ang ating mga kababayan na makapaghanap buhay at mag-self-reliant. [24:33] Let's watch. [24:33] Ang kasali sa four-piece yung deserve nila. [24:36] Yung iba nakikianong sa four-piece kahit kaya naman nila. [24:40] Yung bang dapat talaga, parang iano talaga ng... [24:44] I think we already played this. [24:45] Tech. [24:47] Siyempre, ma'am, I know livelihood program kasi maraming... [24:58] Anyway, sa madaling salita, kung ang four-piece ay nagsisilbing sandigan, [25:05] ang SLP naman ay daan patungo sa sariling pag-unlad. [25:08] We must ensure that these two programs do not stand apart but instead walk hand in hand to support, [25:15] uplift, and guide every Filipino family towards a more secure and hopeful future. [25:20] Para po sa ating lahat na narito ngayon, tungkulin po nating suriin kung sapat ba ang umiiral na mekanismo, [25:27] tukuyin ang mga puwang sa implementasyon at maglatag ng mga pulisiyang tunay na makapagbabago ng buhay. [25:35] Let us be guided by evidence, field realities, and the voices of our beneficiaries sapagat sila po ang tunay na sentro ng ating mga desisyon. [25:44] Ang ating hangarin ay hindi lamang magpasa ng batas kundi lumikha ng mga programang may malasakit, [25:51] may direksyon, at may pangmatagalang efekto. [25:54] We will now resume consideration of the proposed amendments [25:57] to the four-piece and later discuss the proposed institutionalization of SLP. [26:02] I expect a constructive discussion. [26:04] Bukas po ang komite sa mga suwisyon, punat, rekomendasyon na magpapabuti sa mga panukalang batas na ito. [26:13] With that, I urge everyone to engage wholeheartedly in today's discussion [26:17] so that together we can strengthen the four-piece and sustainable livelihood program, [26:22] creating a measure that genuinely promote social justice, uplift welfare, and foster inclusive development for all Filipino families. [26:31] Bukot po yan, we also have to discuss, and I will be asking various agencies, [26:36] are we ready? Are we ready to help mga kababayan po natin kung ang krisis na ito ay umabot pa po ng one or two months or three months pa? [26:49] Can we sustain yung assistance DSWD? Can we sustain Department of Labor? [26:54] Department of Agriculture? DTI? Can we sustain the assistance? [26:58] Kasi po baka isang bigayan lang po magkakaproblema po tayo eh kung tatagal po ng tatagal ito. [27:07] And then we also have siguro to look, hindi lang po yung ilang sectors po natin, [27:13] poorest of the poor, transport, agriculture, fisher folks. [27:18] We also have to look those people working po in grocery stores, security guards, janitors, [27:27] and din po yung mga senior citizens po natin. [27:29] I mean, siguro yung approach po natin dito, just like po ng pandemic, siya efektado po lahat. [27:36] Hindi kakayanin yung kinikita, yung mga pensiyon ng mga seniors, mga PWDs. [27:42] Let's start talking about this and let's plan. [27:44] What do we do kung itong gyera na ito tumagal po hanggang Mayo, hanggang Hunyo? [27:51] Can we sustain this assistance to our kababayans? [27:56] We'll be talking about that. [28:01] Later. [28:03] Anyway, let us now proceed with the hearing proper. [28:13] The committees will now resume consideration of the proposed amendments to Republic Act [28:17] number 11310 or the Pantawid Pamilya Pilipino Program Act. [28:23] For the orderly proceedings of this public hearing, the committees have already heard [28:26] the position of the SWD, DBM, DICT, DOLE, DA, DOH, DTI, NAPC, DEPED, DOST, DILG, CHED, UNIPAS, [28:35] CHED, TESDA, PSA, and CIP, and Samahan na Nakakaisang Pamilya ng Pantawid Inc. [28:43] We will now hear the positions of the other agencies concerned. [28:46] For the order of presentation, Pag Corp will present first. [28:50] Let me remind our presenters today, please limit your presentation to five minutes. [28:56] Kung sobra po yan, baka pwede pong isubmit niyo na lang yung position papers po ninyo para ma-accommodate po natin. [29:04] Kung sobra po yan, baka pwede pong isubmit niyo na lang yung position papers po ninyo para ma-accommodate po natin. [29:06] Kung sobra po yan, baka pwede pong isubmit niyo na lang yung position papers po ninyo para ma-accommodate po natin. [29:09] Kung sobra po yan, baka pwede pong isubmit niyo na lang yung position papers po ninyo para ma-accommodate po natin. [29:10] Unahin po natin ng Pag Corp followed by PCSO, National Electrification Administration, [29:16] Union of Local Authorities of the Philippines, League of Provinces of the Philippines, League of Municipalities of the Philippines, [29:22] Philippine Institute of Development Studies. [29:25] Let's stay focused on the matter at hand and please limit your presentation to five minutes so that we can accommodate everybody. [29:32] Refrain from veering away from the subject matter, ladies and gentlemen. [29:35] These reforms will ensure that the Four-Peace Act stays fair, effective, and responsive to people's current needs. [29:42] Let us now start with Pag Corp. Pag Corp, are you here? [29:46] All right, go ahead, please. [29:48] Good morning, Mr. Chair, honorable members of the committee, and fellow guests. [29:53] On behalf of Pag Corp, we would like to thank the committee for giving us this opportunity to participate in today's deliberations [30:03] on the proposed amendments to R.A. 1131, [30:06] Pag Corp remains committed to supporting these national development programs in accordance [30:13] with our charter, and we stand ready to work with the committee and the concerned agencies [30:19] should any form of coordination be required from us. Thank you, Mr. Chair. [30:23] All right, thank you. I just have one quick question, Pag Corp. [30:29] Yeah, we invited you to talk about this issue about Four-Peace and [30:37] sustainable livelihood. But let me ask you quickly, by any chance, do you have funds, Ma'am? [30:45] And if the funds are not available to our agencies like DSWD, DoLE, DTI, DA, and so on, [30:57] to help our people with what's happening right now? Do you have by any chance funds to assist? [31:04] If they, for example, were to deplete their funds, if this crisis—and God forbid that not all funds be depleted—if this crisis and God forbid, not that the funds are to be depleted, [31:10] as soon as possible can you can your agency help uh sir uh perhaps just to share uh last year sir [31:20] we had a budget total income of 106 billion um 66 billion of that sir we provided to contributions [31:29] to nation building um 50 percent of our income goes to the national government as our national [31:38] government chair sir these are used to fund um priority projects such as the universal healthcare [31:46] act marlika investment fund among others um perhaps sir if um the concerned agencies can [31:54] suggest how we can provide um assistance and this is something that this is something surely that we [32:03] can take into consideration so given our current funding obligations as well thank you uh good to [32:10] hear that all right next to present is the philippine charity ship stakes office please [32:15] yeah good morning mr chair and our fellow participants for this committee on the part [32:23] of pcs so we have already submitted our position paper mr chair last march 19 20 26 and for this [32:31] proposed measures we fully support the uh the the intention of these senate bills [32:39] um while pcs though was not specifically mentioned we observed that under section 15 of [32:45] the senate bill number 31 it provides that those in need of financial assistance are being entitled [32:50] to receive financial support for medical assistance among others so we submit mr chair [32:58] that pursuant to our mandate pcs can extend our assistance on various programs that we are [33:06] currently undertaking one is the medical assistance program [33:10] the second is the outpatient services program and this third is the multi-spatiality program mr chair [33:19] the map program that we have mentioned is a our uh is our flagship program so this uh is designed [33:27] actually to augment uh the financial needs of our kababayans for their health related concerns [33:33] so under this program we have a certain obligation that we are going to assume and this is [33:42] uh being guaranteed by virtue of our guarantee letters so this is a medium of a delivery system [33:49] on the other hand we have our own medical services department being run by various doctors [33:55] regular doctors and we give daily general medical consultations basic or minor surgical procedures [34:06] dental consultations and treatment vaccination and immunization services as well as free medicines [34:13] as well as these services allow patients to receive comprehensive primary care without financial [34:20] burden so contributing significantly to early detection timely treatment and management of [34:26] common medical and dental conditions the last program that we have is the latest one Mr chair [34:34] this is the so-called multi-spatiality clinic for this program the pcs so it's actually um providing [34:42] free medical consultation by specialists in the cardiology, nephrology, obstetrics, and gynecology. [34:52] We have also neurology and psychiatry, Mr. Chair, pulmonology, gastroenterology, urology, [34:59] endocrinology, orthopedic surgery, ophthalmology, and ENT. So all of these specialists are being [35:07] engaged by the PCSO, and we are currently attending to quite a number of patients every day [35:15] at the main office of PCSO in Sioux Boulevard. So this coordinated service platform, the patients, [35:24] many of whom cannot afford specialty care, these are our specialists, receive expert clinical [35:31] evaluation, so early diagnosis and continuity of care without cost. [35:38] We provide this, Mr. Chair, in our multi-spatiality clinic. Later, we will be launching also our [35:48] mini laboratory services. So this will include the x-ray provision for [35:57] ECG, and then hopefully CT scan will be made available. And this will augment again the [36:06] program of PCSO for the patients. [36:09] Health and charity services. So all of these taken together will be aligned with the program [36:16] of our business, Mr. Chair. So we are ready to support in that concern of extending medical [36:22] assistance. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Attorney Patiag. That's very good news. But [36:29] while you're at it, I'd like to ask the same question like what I've asked the [36:34] Philippine Amusement Gaming Corporation. Do you have funds, sir, just in case that we really need [36:39] support from you? [36:40] Do you have funds for times like this, like wherein we can ask Pag Corp, the government agencies, [36:51] the line agencies can tap the resources of PCSO to help us out? Like since we are talking about [36:59] aid and we have a crisis in front of us right now and we're starting, DSWD is working hard and [37:05] working fast to extend assistance to the transport sector, poorest of the poor. There will come a [37:12] time, as I said, if this war will last for several more months, we really, our resources, our funds [37:19] will really drain out. So do you have, can you help? I mean, just in case, do you have funds for [37:27] this emergency situations? Yes, Mr. Chair, if you look at the mandate of PCSO, so it includes the [37:37] delivery of services for medical assistance. But you will note also that one of the [37:45] programs is the health and welfare program. Under this program, we have a number of projects that can [37:53] be considered to somehow extend. We can adapt a project that can be aligned also with that direction, [38:02] Mr. Chair, what you have mentioned, addressing the current situation. Just to supplement also, the [38:12] universal health care is one of the [38:16] recipient [38:17] of our charity assistance fund. We have also the institutional partnership program. So we can tie up [38:25] with various foundations and groups, private groups. We have also the other program like [38:37] the medical equipment program. Yes, sir. Let me cut you there. What I'm talking about, I'm asking is, [38:46] do you have funds, sir, that are really on the side of the road? [38:49] Yes, in situations like this, that the national government, these line agencies would say, [38:55] sir, it's no longer there, it's already a bit of a problem. Do you have funds to replenish, [39:00] like PagCorp does, or your earnings are solely for medical assistance, equipment, [39:06] etc., community, but you don't have any funds at all to assist? For example, distribution, cash aid to [39:15] our people. I mean, this kind of situation, Christ knows best. So if you have funds, you can do that. [39:15] Yes, you can do that. Do you have funds, sir? [39:16] Yes, sir. Do you have funds, sir? [39:17] Do you have funds, sir? [39:17] Yes, sir. Do you have funds, sir? [39:17] Yes, sir. Do you have funds, sir? [39:18] Yes, sir. Do you have funds, sir? [39:18] Yes, sir. Do you have funds, sir? [39:18] situation, crises? Well, as we have reported actually, Mr. Chair, the corporate operating [39:28] budget of the agency is being prepared and crafted and approved ahead of the current year. [39:39] However, there are situations that programs can be introduced and realignment of fines can be done. [39:48] So, it's possible in that sense, Mr. Chair. But the funds, all the funds currently are [39:55] already programmed for this various programs as mentioned. But it is possible that if there is a [40:04] need, one program may be considered for realignment in that budgeting program, sir. [40:11] All right, Attorney Pateag. That's very well. Anyway, very well said. Next to present is the [40:20] national... [40:20] National Electrification Administration. Nia, are you here? Please limit your presentation to five [40:25] minutes, ma'am. [40:26] Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good morning, as well as to all the guests and participants in [40:32] this morning's committee hearing. Foremost, the National Electrification Administration would [40:38] like to express its gratitude and appreciation for the opportunity given to the agency to submit [40:44] its comment to the Senate Bill's proposing amendments to [40:49] Republicans and Republicans. [40:50] The amendments are the following. [40:51] The amendments are the following. [40:52] The amendments are the following. [40:52] NIA fully supports the passing of the above Senate bills into law. [40:56] The amendments being introduced by our honorable senators will allow the present beneficiaries to graduate from the program, [41:03] considering the assistance on the skills development trainings and livelihood seminars. [41:08] However, particularly on the responsibility of the National Electrification Administration in distributing [41:15] the proposed electric utility grant of 500 pesos per year per household beneficiary under Section 4E of [41:20] NIA. [41:21] Senate Bill 1496 as authored by Senator Lapid it is respectfully suggested that the electric [41:29] utility Grant be downloaded directly to the electric cooperatives considering that the [41:34] Department of social welfare and development has an in-place coordination with the ECs in the [41:41] implementation of the Lifeline consumers these suggested setup will ascend the layer of bureaucracy [41:47] and fast track the implementation of the proposed Grant once approved nonetheless [41:53] Naya will coordinate with DSWD for the fast and effective implementation of the electric utility [41:59] Grant embodied in this uh said Senate Bill 1496. um we have already submitted this uh comment or [42:12] position paper of Naya to the committee in a letter dated March to 2026. thank you Mr chair [42:18] thank you [42:18] thank you very much uh Naya uh we go now to the Union of local authorities of the Philippines or [42:23] all right please go ahead sir hello good afternoon Senator Tufo I'm Edmond representing the Union of [42:42] local authorities of the Philippines and we thank you for inviting us to this session and reaching [42:47] out to us for comments on the proposed bills amending the Pantawid Filipino program while [42:52] our office while our official position paper is still pending approval by the national executive [42:57] board [42:57] the Union of local authorities expressed its support for the proposed measures seeking to [43:02] strengthen and expand the four piece program including the introduction of complementary [43:07] mechanisms such as the Pantawid Pagasa Ulap recognizes the importance of these reforms in [43:14] enhancing the country's social protection system through a more integrated efficient and responsive [43:19] approach to poverty reduction these measures are significantly significant in addressing [43:24] long-standing issues of fragmentation duplication and inefficiencies [43:28] in the delivery in the delivery of social assistance by promoting convergence among [43:32] various National government programs and establishing a more coherent framework for [43:36] social protection the proposed reforms aimed to ensure the assistance is delivered more [43:41] effectively equitably and transparently to vulnerable individuals and families [43:45] who will have likewise acknowledges the value of strengthening accountability transparency and data [43:51] driven targeting mechanisms which are essential in improving service delivery and restoring public [44:04] trust [44:08] such reforms are aligned with the broader goal of fostering inclusive growth enhancing resilience [44:12] among vulnerable populations and ensuring that government assistance effectively reaches the most [44:17] in need at the same time underscores the importance of clearly defining and strengthening the roles [44:24] of local government units as key partners in the implementation of these reforms given their [44:29] proximity to communities and their critical role in service delivery LGUs must be meaningfully [44:34] involved in beneficiary identification validation [44:38] monitoring convergence and convergence efforts at the local level ULAP further emphasizes the [44:48] need for adequate capacity support data sharing mechanisms and fiscal resources to ensure that [44:54] LGUs can effectively carry out these responsibilities without creating unfunded mandates strengthening [45:00] national local coordination will be essential to fully realize the intended impact of the expanded [45:06] for peace and ensure that no vulnerable sector is left behind we will submit our official position [45:11] paper once it is approved by the ULAP national executive committee thank you very much thank you [45:13] executive board thank you thank you Mr koresma of the union of local authorities of the Philippines [45:21] now let's move on to the League of Provinces of the Philippines yes good morning Mr chair director [45:28] Sanchez go ahead yes the League of Provinces of the Philippines support the expansion of the coverage [45:33] of the four piece program more particularly we welcome the amendments aimed at strengthening [45:38] the capabilities and capacities of its beneficiaries through adult education and [45:43] enhancing opportunities for [45:45] generation and employment we have however Mr chair just three three proposals so first is to require [45:54] the use of the fields as the primary method of personal identification of the beneficiaries so [46:00] in cases where the beneficiaries have not been registered to the fields we recommend that the [46:05] DSWD and the PSA promulgate a policy to facilitate their registration second Mr chair we strongly [46:12] advocate the use of the cbms in the identification [46:16] of potential beneficiaries with a regular review of the same every three years to coincide with the [46:21] updating of the cbms database and then third Mr chair in order to allow LGUs who choose to [46:28] implement a localized four-piece program we propose a provision that will allow these LGUs [46:35] access to the beneficiary lists within their territorial jurisdiction however it is it must [46:41] be upon formal request to the DSWD and subject to the [46:46] provisions of the data privacy Act at the same time we welcome the proposal to institutionalize [46:52] the Pantawid Pagasa program as an effort to consolidate the various social protection [46:57] programs to ensure the necessary short-term sometimes one-off provision of support is [47:04] provided not only to poor households but also marginalized and vulnerable individuals and [47:09] families in crisis situations likewise one of the more important components to ensure the strengthening [47:17] of the four-piece program and the Pantawid Pagasa is the interoperability of the various social [47:22] protection database databases among government agencies on the various social protection [47:29] assistance to ensure a wider coverage and avoid unnecessary duplication we shall be submitting our [47:35] formal position paper Mr chair upon its approval thank you director Sanchez thank you um League of [47:44] municipalities the Philippines good morning um good morning um good morning [48:15] Mr chair thank you very much for this invitation um um the League of municipalities of the Philippines [48:20] as the Association of 1493 Municipalities nationwide um would like to express our support to [48:28] the proposed expanded Pantawid Pampamili program um LMP recognizes the critical role of four piece [48:36] in reducing poverty and improving human capital among poorest Filipino families we are likewise [48:44] committed to the welfare [48:45] of our constituents the majority of whom resides in the municipalities and are among the primary [48:51] beneficiaries of this program and we acknowledge that Mr chair while LMP is broadly supportive of [48:57] the bill's objective we express serious reservations regarding the mandate imposing upon the local [49:03] government units particularly requiring all municipalities to enact local social protection [49:09] ordinance and to embed for peace related programs in local planning and budgeting instruments [49:15] we will submit our formal and approved position paper discussing our reservations and concerns and [49:23] proposed amendments to convey our but again to convey our general support Mr chair LMP is [49:40] um LMP would like to again um convey our general support to this expanded program thank you Mr chair [49:49] thank you League of municipalities [49:53] now go to our final presenter today uh on this matter the uh philippine institute of development [50:00] studies speeds you're here good morning mr chair and everyone in this hall um we have the philippine [50:08] institute for development studies has already submitted its official position paper on the [50:13] 3rd of march however i would like to read the following statement summarizing a position [50:19] um pids welcomes the senate initiative to strengthen and expand the pantalic [50:25] program and the proposed measures collectively address real and documented gaps in program [50:31] design and wish to share the institute's comments on each major area number one on benefit adequacy [50:38] research shows that the purchasing power of four piece grants has declined by approximately 26 [50:44] from 2019 to 2025 for a typical household with three children at [50:49] different school levels this amounts to around 18 000 of community cumulative loss in real value [50:57] system or microphone and at the same time to give way to our guests to have their lunch so we'll [57:08] suspend the hearing for a few minutes thank you for your understanding hearing um before we move [1:08:59] to our next agenda which is the sustainable livelihood program i have few quick questions [1:09:05] for dswd uh my number one question is how is the dswd assessing the impact of energy emergency [1:09:19] on social protection programs particularly with my pantawid family and filipino program [1:09:27] because we really definitely will have energy crisis here and use a sustainable [1:09:36] livelihood programs [1:09:42] in the paramaka [1:10:01] by [1:10:10] thank you very much honorable chair person [1:10:16] chairman senator erwin tulfo we are grateful that you are asking these questions because they [1:10:22] are very important uh we are acting on crisis so talagang stop gap measure and we are acting as fast [1:10:32] as we can to deliver the instructions of the president and our focus is on the fuel crisis [1:10:40] with regard to its effect on our other programs even our work from home in order for us to save [1:10:46] to contribute to the nation's energy savings [1:10:51] advocacy we are still learning so we are in the process of discussing and seeing [1:10:58] how this will affect long term with regards to young sinabi [1:11:12] that affects our other programs we have regular programs in ix we're currently [1:11:16] using our ix funds for the to respond to the fuel crisis but we have regular programs now [1:11:23] the medical the burial and other cash and financial assistance programs and we would like to [1:11:31] um offer that as a stopgap measure maganda but it needs to be complemented with more [1:11:39] long-term efforts but six months to 12 months metro that's that risks the sustainability [1:11:45] of these programs um are in question it would risk dependency over these type of stopgap measures [1:11:54] but my question uh yusec how long can you sustain this for example this crisis will last until [1:12:06] june july can you still have do we still have the resources you still have resources to assist [1:12:14] and we're only talking here right now ma'am [1:12:18] the poorest of the poor but what about those other sectors [1:12:25] i know young i will be asking ba later when are they going to start uh assisting uh the farmers [1:12:33] and fisher folks so antonio natin gano kahaba pa i mean your pondo ninyo para makatulong [1:12:41] kung sakasakali ang gyera na ito tumagal hanggang hunyo hanggang june june or july [1:12:49] so far is龍 keinen transport sector at poorest of the partner [1:13:02] tulong how is that do you have enough to sustain this or to help [1:13:07] even this another group of sector on a world chairman in the short term which could reach [1:13:15] up to june and july the next three months kaya panaman but it would also depend on budget [1:13:20] prioritization we would be if we would be able to絶 [1:13:20] nect garage and see if we will get a better budget and a better personnel quality but at long term, i mean, because will need chancellor and as a whole care figure, so there are many weird properties out there. [1:13:21] we would be if we would be香l willing, if the prices up to consumer fees, if we would be able to manage city rental cars, which is necessary, we are already preparing for the low-income sector, but the value is not very good if we are arrange and build a very efficient industry or national development of those quindi. [1:13:21] would be if we do run out we would be asking uh replenishment of our funds and that would be a [1:13:27] question of how this is prioritized all across the agencies and all across the national government [1:13:33] but 100 rest assured honorable chair the dswd will deliver as instructed very well thank you [1:13:40] then let me transfer to the department of uh employ uh labor and employment um [1:13:52] uh i i've read some uh news articles now you started distributing it to understand program [1:14:12] because we have we have a lot the puba so [1:14:22] Magandang umaga po, Mr. Chair. So initially, the department has allocated 1.2 billion as fund to be utilized to support for assistance. Ito po yung magiging contribution ng department doon sa uplift ng buong gobyerno in response to the crisis. [1:14:47] Primarily, we'll be drawing our funds from our two major social protection flagship programs, and this is Tupad and the livelihood programs. [1:14:59] Meron na po kaming inisyal na mga pag-uusap specifically for the transport sector in coordination with the OTR for our Tupad na program for Tuloy Pasada. [1:15:12] Apart from the transport sector, yung pondo po will really be allocated. [1:15:17] For all the vulnerable workers that will be affected by the crisis. [1:15:23] In response to the OFWs, we have been in close coordination with the DMW with respect to the returning OFWs needing reintegration services. [1:15:34] Yung inisyal po na partnership namin with the DMW, nakakasa na po ang mga job fair across the different regions. [1:15:45] Pagdating po sa pagtulong sa atin. [1:15:48] Yung mga OFWs for employment facilitation services na nag-indicate po doon sa survey po or yung profiling ng DMW with respect to the assistance that they are needing. [1:16:01] We have been in constant coordination with our regional offices for the mobilization of our different programs. [1:16:08] For the local workers, sir, we have inisyal coordination with the different employers. [1:16:17] Such as... [1:16:18] ECO, para po ma-encourage yung pagre-report at ng mga affected natin ng mga establishments sa department para makita po natin kung ano po yung mga nagiging efekto ng ating conflict sa Middle East right now with respect to the local businesses. [1:16:41] So kasama po yan sa minomonitor po ngayon ng DOLE. [1:16:46] And later po, we can provide... [1:16:48] Report na lang, sir. [1:16:49] Siguro we can submit to your office nung mas comprehensiveong report regarding this inisyal information na nakukuha po ng department. [1:17:00] But yan po yung kanina yung minimension nyo, papaano yung ibang sektor. [1:17:04] So we have been coordinating with our partner employers para make sure po na ma-report po at makuha po natin yung mga datos pagdating sa sino po yung mga na-efekto ng mga establishment. [1:17:17] At ilang mga workers. [1:17:18] At ilang mga workers po nila yung apektado. [1:17:20] But initially, yun po yung pwedeng ma-share namin ngayon po sa hearing na ito, yung pondo na inalat ng department, yung 1.2 billion. [1:17:31] And I'm sorry for cutting in, Sec. Castro. [1:17:37] Sapat po ba yung 1.2 billion na yan sa mga manggagawa po natin? [1:17:40] Manggagawa sa factory, manggagawa sa konstruksyon, manggagawa sa iba't-ibang... [1:17:49] trabaho, sektor, bukod po sa transportasyon. [1:17:54] At yung 1.2 na billion po, isang bigayan lang yan o may kasunod pa. [1:17:58] Kasi let's be ikang conservative na baka tumagal ito. [1:18:07] Mas maganda na yung we're ready, we anticipate na tatagal ito ng ilang buwan kaysa sa sandali lang yan. [1:18:14] Papakinggan natin yung leader po ng Amerika na quick. [1:18:17] Ika nga surgical, etc. Pero baka tumagal, ika nga. [1:18:22] So yung 1.2, yun na ba ba yun? [1:18:25] O meron pa kayong mailalabas kung sa kasakali para sa ibang mga sektor, paibang mga manggagawa natin? [1:18:32] Sir, initially yun po yung napag-usapan po sa department. [1:18:37] But we will be constantly assessing yung situation para po makita kung yung lawak po ng magiging efekto. [1:18:47] Sa iba pang sektor because bukod sa tupad at sa livelihood, we also have the adjustment measure programs na pondo that can help establishment na nangangailangan po ng transition fund para po maitawid yung kanilang businesses and their workers during this crisis. [1:19:09] So siguro po sir, we will be constantly assessing yung aming, katulad po ng DSW. [1:19:17] Kung ano po yung status ng aming funds in relation to the possible impact later on nung crisis, we definitely will be immediately reporting it to proper agencies like BBM if the need for more mobilization of funds will be necessary for the department. [1:19:37] That's what I'm not concerned and I'm kind of worried. [1:19:40] I am probably I should address this question to the Department of Budget Management. [1:19:48] Nagagamit na po natin yung pondo natin na pondo para sa regular programs like recovery efforts sa mga devastated by typhoons, by calamities, same thing with DSWD. [1:20:02] Pero nagagamit na po natin ngayon na hindi naman talaga siya intended for this problem dahil itong problema na ito dumating lang po whether we like it or not, nadamay na po tayo rito. [1:20:12] So my question is Department of Budget and Management. [1:20:18] Nagagamit na po yung funds para sa kagaya po ng mga AICs na ito na supposedly pag may mga bagyo tayo, mga earthquake, yung kagaling ginagamit ng DSWD. [1:20:29] Do we have funds like after this, June, July, August, typhoon season, meron pa kaya o baka magamit na lahat ng mga agencies na ito, AICs to PAD and wala na tayong pang replenish? [1:20:46] Good morning, Mr. Chair. [1:20:50] The economic managers are well aware of the crisis po ngayon but we are closely coordinating po to ensure that there will be funds available po for all the programs and projects po that will be needed for the purpose po. [1:21:06] Thank you po, Mr. Chair. [1:21:07] So there's nothing to worry kasi based on what you're saying. [1:21:12] So pag nagamit itong mga pondo nila na para dapat sa mga programs really intended pero dahil nga it's an emergency. [1:21:20] na ito nagagamit na meron naman po tayong pantapal just in case sa darating ng mga bagyo pag humingi ang DSWD kailangan naman emergency funds kasi may bagyo, may earthquake, sunod-sunod, you still have to ikang pondo para ikang maibaba, may download sa DSWD, sa Department of Labor, you have that, right? [1:21:43] Yes, po, Mr. Chair. [1:21:44] All right, good to hear that. [1:21:46] The Department of Agriculture here, do you have a representative? [1:21:49] There you go. [1:21:50] Director Calda, right? [1:21:52] Ma'am, tanong ko, yung sa mga farmers po natin, fisher folks, yung mga farmers, kailangan po nila ng gasoline para sa kanila mga tractors, ganoon din po yung mga fishermen, naibaba na po ba, ilang, saan na po, nabigyan na po ba lahat or kulang pa, ilan pa po ang tinitignan natin na kailangan bigyan ng ayuda? [1:22:14] Yes, good morning, Mr. Chair. [1:22:16] Actually, the fuel subsidy for the department, we will start this morning. [1:22:20] So, what's the delay, ma'am? [1:22:24] We're still, yung inayos po yung mga listahan, sir. [1:22:28] Kasi we give fuel po doon sa may mga makinarya at saka yung sa may mga boats, sir. [1:22:35] Correct. [1:22:35] So, sila po yung bibigyan. [1:22:37] So, mayroon po ba kayong database kung ilan ang fishermen na may sariling mga makina, yung nagsasaguan lang, yung nakikisakay lang, yung mga fishermen, [1:22:50] yung mga fishermen. [1:22:51] Yung mga farmers naman natin nakikiharam lang or gumagamit ng kalaba, wala pa po tayong datos na ganoon para, ika nga, pag may mga sitwasyon na ganito, alam na po natin. [1:23:02] Yes, sir. [1:23:02] We have, sir, actually, we have what we call the boat R. [1:23:07] Ito po yung mga listahan ng mga fisher folk na mayroon pong mga bangka. [1:23:12] It's either motorized po or non-motorized. [1:23:14] Mayroon pong listahan ng BIFAR na ganoon, sir. [1:23:17] Pero next, did I hear it right? [1:23:20] Next month pa ninyo ba? [1:23:21] Paan ng ayuda ito or this month? [1:23:23] Sir, this month po. [1:23:24] Ngayon, April. [1:23:25] Yes, sir. [1:23:25] Ilan ang ibababa po ninyo? [1:23:27] Mayroon po, please. [1:23:29] Okay. [1:23:29] For the fuel subsidy, Mr. Chair, mayroon po tayo sa GAA na around 100 million, which will benefit 14,400 farmers and 15,669 fisher folk. [1:23:43] Then the amount for the farmers is 5,000 per farmer and for the fisher folk is 3,000 per fisher folk po. [1:23:51] That's one time po or may mga kasunod pa yan. [1:23:55] I'm sorry ha, pero I'm looking at kasi ma'am, na baka umabot tayo ng Mayo, ng Hunyo kasi sabi dati nung nagkagira ito ilang araw lang, very positive po yung thinking ng superpower po, Israel and US. [1:24:12] Ngayon, umabot na po. [1:24:13] We were going to six weeks na po ito. [1:24:16] Few more weeks, two more weeks. [1:24:17] Nasa dalawang buwan na po. [1:24:20] What if pag umabot po ito ng May and June? [1:24:22] Eh, tamang-tamang, taniman pa naman po yun, di po ba? [1:24:25] Lalo na po yung mga fishermen natin. [1:24:28] Mayroon po ba? [1:24:28] May second round po ba? [1:24:30] Yun po ang tanungkagit ng mga kababayan natin eh. [1:24:33] Mr. Chair, aside from the fuel subsidy, we also have the presidential assistance to farmers and fisher folk amounting to 10 billion po, which will benefit around 4.17 million farmers and fishers. [1:24:46] So, ang may bibigay po sa kanila is nasa 2,325 pesos. [1:24:52] Per beneficiaries po. [1:24:54] Starting this April na rin po ang distribusyon. [1:24:56] Then, aside from this po, the Secretary Laurel is requesting for the release of the RCEF fund amount, at least amounting to 7 billion for the RFFA, yung Rice Farmers Financial Assistance. [1:25:14] He's requesting na ma-release na po ito. [1:25:18] Kapag na-release po ito, kapag na-pondohan, each farmer, [1:25:22] rice farmers will receive 3,200 po. [1:25:26] Alright. [1:25:28] Balik po ako sa DSWD. [1:25:30] May pera po ngayon pang distribute. [1:25:32] Actually, nakikita ko po si Secretary Rex. [1:25:34] Talagang masigasing po nag-distribute. [1:25:38] So, ongoing po ito. [1:25:40] After po ng transport sector, ano ang susunod na sector na tutulungan po natin? [1:25:46] Ngayon, wala pa pong pinag-usapan ano yung next sector. [1:25:49] But in terms of funding, meron po. [1:25:52] It's been publicly announced na half of... [1:25:54] IEX will be specifically set aside for this crisis. [1:25:57] Okay. [1:25:58] Pero wala pa po tayong specific target na after natapos na bigyan natin ng ayuda itong transport, [1:26:07] meron na po ba susunod? [1:26:08] O dito naman tayo, susunod naman natin mga manggagawa, yung mga nagtatrabaho sa fast food, sa grocery, etc. [1:26:15] Kasi apektado rin po sila. [1:26:18] Usec de Mapuro, you know that and I know that. [1:26:20] Dahil hindi na po kalakihan ang sweldo. [1:26:22] Kahit yung malalaki po ang sweldo, umaaray. [1:26:24] So, meron na po ba tayong target na yan? [1:26:27] Or pag-uusapan pa lamang po natin? [1:26:30] Pag-uusapan pa lang po, Mr. Chairman, but you will be the first to get the list of the sectors that we will be helping. [1:26:37] Please do. [1:26:38] So, kasi po, yung last na nabasa po kanina, nasa P170 na po yata, yung diesel po natin. [1:26:45] Marami po ang sasakyan natin, eh, diesel po. [1:26:48] Okay, so, pati yung pamasahe, expect na tataas. [1:26:51] Let's go to DTI, Department of Trade and Industry. [1:26:55] What is your contribution to this, Director Asalonga? [1:27:01] Aside from monitoring your prices, etc. [1:27:04] Pero I am sure medyo mahirap naman po kasi ang sagot po sa atin ng mga industries is like tumaas po ang transportation costs, ang production costs. [1:27:14] So, what can you contribute, DTI? [1:27:19] Thank you, Mr. Chair, for inviting the DTI to this hearing. [1:27:23] Ang DTI po naman ay nagbibigay po ng tulong po para sa pangkabuhayan. [1:27:27] Kapit po nung atin pong usapin tungkol doon sa mga batas, ng mga panukalang batas. [1:27:33] Ang DTI po sumusuporta po sa SLP, gayon din po sa 4Ps para po sa entrepreneurial track po ng ating mga beneficiaries. [1:27:42] Sa ngayon po, meron po kami ilang mga programa na pwede pong ma-access ng ating mga beneficiaries ng 4Ps, no, through the SLP program. [1:27:53] Nariyan po yung Youth Enterprise Program. [1:27:56] Ito po ay para sa mga kabataan. [1:27:57] Idad 18 hanggang 30, tinutulungan po sila para magkaroon po ng entrepreneurial mindset at kung sila po ay sigurado na po nakatutuloy sa kanilang negosyo, tinutulungan din po sila ma-matchmake po sa ating mga financing organizations. [1:28:14] Meron din po kami yung pangkabuhayan sa pagbangun at ginhawa. [1:28:19] Ito po ay PPG. [1:28:21] Meron po kami 80 million po para sa programa po na yan. [1:28:26] Ito po ay later release nga lang po. [1:28:27] Kaya lang po, in the meantime po, we are preparing po our beneficiaries na mag-build na kanilang capacities to engage po into business. [1:28:36] So, meron po kaming leveling from zero. [1:28:39] Kahit po wala silang pera, basta may intention po talaga na mag-go into business, tinutulungan po namin yan through our negosyo centers na nakakalat po buong bansana po. [1:28:49] Meron na po kami 1,400 negosyo centers na pwede pong lapitan ng ating mga beneficiaries para po makapuha ng information. [1:28:57] We are preparing them for technical training, skills training, para po pag dumating na po yung pondo po ng aming mga pangkabuhayan sa pagbangun at ginhawa, handa na po sila kung saan po nila gagamitin yung pera na maibibigay po sa kanila. [1:29:12] Ang problem ko po dito, DTI, DOLE, and DSWD, yung intended po na pondo para sa programa, kagaya po niyang pangkabuhayan, you're mentioning DSWD. [1:29:29] use, sustainable livelihood. Same thing with DOLE and you in DTI. Maybe instead of going to [1:29:37] fund for livelihood, we can use it now. It's common to us, it's a common practice. [1:29:45] There's a side, there's an investment, I will use it first because it's an emergency. That's our problem here. [1:29:53] That's the scenario. I will use it first because we need it. No, for our livelihood, [1:30:00] Mrs. will say, Mr. what do you want? A livelihood or our children's eyes will be blinded. [1:30:08] So no choice but to use the funds. That's what I'm saying. That's what I understand where you're [1:30:13] coming from. The program, this program is for this. Why are you using it? That's the problem. [1:30:21] For livelihood, I will use it first. I will worry. I will worry about where I will get [1:30:28] the livelihood. [1:30:30] So this is the problem, right? And let me ask the National Anti-Poverty Commission here, Aton [1:30:36] D. Tayag. Will you agree with me that the thinking of our countrymen, if they really insist that [1:30:42] there should be a fund for this, they will use it. Isn't it for the sake of emergency? [1:30:49] Yes, sir. That's the sentiment of Batayang Sector, that if they immediately receive help, [1:30:56] they immediately consume it for sustainability. [1:30:59] But it's a problem. [1:31:00] It's not for that. For food, like that. Sustainable livelihood for funding, like Dolly also and DTI, they will use it. [1:31:09] Yes, sir. [1:31:10] They will use it because there's a lack of electricity. It's good that the children don't have to go in for graduation. [1:31:18] The problem is, if they go in, how? Are we ready? This is my question. I'm back to DSW, ASEC, USEC, Demoporo. If they go in, [1:31:29] are they going to be afraid of school supplies? So how is this? Do you have plans? Or are you in [1:31:38] coordination with other agencies on how to tackle this? [1:31:42] Our initial plans are to save. So every department has directives to have savings in case of further [1:31:52] emergencies, if this is going to be a long-term emergency. But in the short term, it's still possible. If it's more than six months, [1:31:59] one year. [1:32:00] Let's talk about June, ma'am. USEC, Demoporo, they will go in in June. Children need new clothes, shoes, uniforms, matricula, etc. How will this be done? [1:32:15] Within our programs, sir. Still within our budget by the summer. Yes, sir. [1:32:21] But the problem is, the programs that we are using now, assistance for individuals in crisis situation, usually and target people in crisis. [1:32:29] In other words, we are in crisis. But is it not being used in times of calamity? How will it be used? Because we are using it now. [1:32:38] Yes, that is the IEX only. The other programs are still safe. But the IEX, we did set aside half of our IEX program for this fuel crisis. [1:32:49] All right. Good to hear. Back to you, ASEC, De Castro. Is that also the case? Do you have preparation, Dolly? Anticipation? Now is the time for us to go in. [1:32:58] What will we do? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? Do you have a plan? [1:32:59] . [1:33:06] . [1:33:20] . [1:33:30] . [1:33:30] . [1:33:30] . [1:33:30] . [1:33:30] financial funds of 1.2 billion, yung disbursement po nung 1.2 billion. Anticipatory naman po [1:33:37] ang department kung in case po yung sinasabi ninyo patuloy yung patuloy nating makita [1:33:46] yung mga reports and with respect to ilan po yung nagiging naapektuhan lalo na po yung [1:33:55] sa local once may mga pumapasok na po tayong report, rest assured po na yung [1:34:01] department will always be assessing po yung status ng aming funds and we will be [1:34:08] anticipating po yung kung kailangan po namin ng replenishment nung mga pondo in case [1:34:16] po yung iba naming mga programa ay namobilize na rin po namin. So yun naman po yung [1:34:22] assurance na kaya naming ibigay from local. [1:34:25] From the department because as mentioned also by the different departments, the different [1:34:32] executive branches right now are really in constant coordination under AFLEP with respect [1:34:37] to how we are mobilizing our funds to support the packages that government intends to provide [1:34:44] for our affected workers. [1:34:45] Correct. Ang isa pa pong concern ko rito, ito po yung mga members po natin ng 4Peace [1:34:50] dahil ito naman po tayong tinatalakay natin ngayong araw. [1:34:54] Ito po yung mga members po natin ng 4Peace dahil ito naman po tayong tinatalakay natin ngayong araw. [1:34:55] Ito yung mga members po natin ng 4Peace dahil ito naman po huwag meilläong atra 주yong [1:34:56] yatatag yung yung mga members po lookout up na ito. [1:34:57] So ito po malunggang din po, ito pa po mga kindsabay ulang tapos o sinabay lang mga [1:35:02] kailyang o pang lock down kahit na bilateral or kaya pabaya— [1:35:04] Na hali po lahat na [1:35:15] sa karatay yung mga anak mo. [1:35:17] Sa bahagya ng pagkakaroon ngrawing yung buhay meron mo 이것. [1:35:22] Ang bahagyan naman po daw. [1:35:23] Oo niyo… [1:35:24] O desa natin. [1:35:25] Do По…. [1:35:26] Are you exempted during this time of crisis because your child is not able to go in because one of the concerns is that the child needs to be checked up, [1:35:36] they need to go to school, they can't go in. The beneficiary said that it's not enough, we don't have enough money for our child. [1:35:45] I can't check up the children or me who is pregnant, I'm carrying a child, I can't check up either because there's no money, there's a high amount of money. [1:35:53] The child can't go to school because it's dark, there's a power outage, etc. How is this going to be done? [1:36:02] Will the 4Ps be able to adjust to accommodate this problem? Because I'm just certain that if you don't follow the instructions, you will be removed from the 4Ps. [1:36:14] How is this going to be done? Is this what you've learned? [1:36:17] Honorable Chair, the IRR of the 4Ps has a provision that in situations of force majeure, [1:36:25] like this one, [1:36:26] the conditions will be waived. [1:36:29] So the program will still go as planned, they will still get the grants and the conditions will be waived in situations of force majeure. [1:36:39] So the benefits of our 4Ps beneficiaries are not affected. [1:36:45] All right, thank you. [1:36:47] Well, before we proceed to our next agenda about the Sustainable Livelihood Program, [1:36:53] I'd like to ask our resource persons, if there is any, [1:36:56] if you have any reservations or concerns or objection to the proposed amendments to the 4Ps? [1:37:03] Go ahead, ma'am, the one raising hand over there. [1:37:06] Can you introduce your name? I can see your name. [1:37:09] Good morning, Honorable Chair and distinguished guests. [1:37:14] Melanin Cervantes, Vice President of the Naga Kaisang Pamilyang bupandawid . [1:37:20] I will be addressing my concerns to all the four agencies, which I know will greatly help our forces. [1:37:24] kung malaki ang maitutulong sa aming mga porpies. [1:37:28] Una po sa DA, masiguro po na localized po may mga mabibilha na [1:37:33] murang bigas, murang mga basic commodities. [1:37:37] Kasi sa panahon po ngayon na krisis ang lahat, [1:37:40] tapos hindi po end up yung aming mga hawak na budget. [1:37:46] Malaking bagay po kung mare-regulate na may mababang mabibilhan. [1:37:51] Yung mga farmers po ng ibang lugar na nabubulok lang yung mga gulay, [1:37:57] sana po magawa nila ng paraan na ma-deliver yun sa iba-ibang lugar [1:38:03] para may sapat na mabibilhan po ang mga porpies members na mura lang po yung mabibili. [1:38:09] Tapos sa DTI naman po, natutuwa po kami sa pagbibigay nila ng mga trainees. [1:38:16] Mahalaga po sa amin na mapaayos po yung aming kakayahan [1:38:20] para kami makahanap ng mas maraming kabuhayan para sa aming pamilya. [1:38:26] Sa dole naman po, with regards sa tupad, [1:38:29] hihilingin ko po o isasuggest ko na kung maaari yung sa tupad po, [1:38:34] huwag naman po sa paglilinis, i-convert po sa integrated farming [1:38:37] para makatulong din po magkaroon ng maraming source ng mga gulay. [1:38:43] Kasi kung tupad po ay pagwawalis lang o yung mga nadadaya po ng mga tupad beneficiaries, [1:38:51] yung kanilang natitake na grants sa tupad dahil magwawalis pa ilang-ilang piraso [1:38:57] tapos isang tao picture-picture lang. [1:38:59] In reality po, ayaw po namin ng ganoon. [1:39:02] Ang porpies members po ay hindi nakakatanggap ng tupad dahil dinidepribe po kami [1:39:07] dahil kami tumatanggap na roon ng grant. [1:39:09] Madudobol daw po yung aming nakokompensate. [1:39:12] Pero sa akin po, malaking bagay kung on tupad po ay idadiver sa integrated farming [1:39:18] kasi sa panahon na krisis tayo ngayon, [1:39:21] ang hirap-hirap pong gumili ng mga commodities. [1:39:25] Pangatlo po, yung sa dollar rin po, yung mga job pairs po nila, [1:39:31] magpaparticipate ka, pupunta ka sa mga job pairs, pero nadidiscriminate ka. [1:39:38] Tatawagan ka, tatawagan ka, aantay ka ng mag-aantay. [1:39:41] Pero bakit po napakaliit ng chances na mabigyan kami talaga ng makakatulong sa aming kabuhayan? [1:39:49] Mahalaga po sa amin ang expanded porpies program. [1:39:52] Kasi ito po'y pagpapatuloy ng magandang programa. [1:39:57] Sa totoo po, significant po sa amin ang aming grant. [1:40:00] Pero higit sa lahat, mas significant sa amin ang whole approach po ng program ng porpies. [1:40:06] Dahil kagaya ko po, ako'y sinasabi nila na yung mga porpies ayaw nang umalis sa programa. [1:40:13] Kami po'y nung makapagpatapos ng anak, kusa po kaming nag-wave, [1:40:17] gumraduate kami sa programa at patuloy pa rin ina-advocate ng mas mapaganda. [1:40:23] Ang servisyong binibigay sa tao. [1:40:25] Dahil naniniwala kami, bawat isang batang binabago mo yung buhay, bumabago ka rin ng mundo. [1:40:33] Nagbibigay ka ng pag-asa ang mabago yung pagkatao. [1:40:36] Dahil kami po nagsimula sa pamamasura. [1:40:39] Ngayon, nakapagtapos po yung dalawa kong anak. [1:40:42] Isang business administration, isang seaman, at nag-aaral pa ng kolehyo yung dalawa kahit wala na sa programa. [1:40:50] Hindi po totoo na pag-porpies ka. [1:40:54] Habang buhay kang nakaasa, may pangarap po kami sa buhay. [1:40:58] Maraming salamat po. Good point po. [1:41:01] And because of that, quick question lang po sa balik po tayo sa Doley. [1:41:06] Kung nga po ma'am, napapansin ko po, [1:41:08] bakit puro-puro walis ng walis lang yung nagawa ng TUPAD? [1:41:11] Hindi wala na ba ibang trabaho? [1:41:13] Naka-T-shirt, nakalagay TUPAD. [1:41:15] Akala ko nga nung una po, meron po ako nadanan na bayan naka-T-shirt. [1:41:18] Akala ko, kuwan po yun eh, yung inmate o PDL. [1:41:22] Yung pala TUPAD pala siya, naka-dilaw na T-shirt. [1:41:24] Sabi ko, ay, TUPAD pala ito. [1:41:26] Bato, wala na po bang iba na way na kailangan ba talaga sila magwalis, [1:41:30] may bigyan ng DASPAN at walis tingting? [1:41:33] Di ba pwedeng magpintura man lang dyan, magpintura ng mga eskwelahan, [1:41:37] mga classroom na sira, etc. [1:41:39] Is there any other way? Just sweeping lang? Tama po si nanay? [1:41:44] Nirecognize po natin yung mga inputs po ni nanay. [1:41:51] Yung isang kahilingan ni nanay, [1:41:54] kahilingan ni nanay pagdating sa TUPAD, hindi lang po pagwawalis actually yung nasa listahan nung iba't-ibang mga proyekto. [1:42:03] Although yun nga po yung image na nakikita natin but the department is working hard to make sure na hindi ganon yung maging tingin natin sa TUPAD [1:42:14] because actually marami po tayong mga beneficiaries na sinusupport with respect to training programs po na using the TUPAD. [1:42:24] Meron din po tayo yung kaninang kagustuhan ni nanay. [1:42:28] Marami na rin po tayong mga projects that we mobilize TUPAD funds for integrated farming para po sa mga in relation to agri na endeavors, hindi lang po yung sa paglilinis. [1:42:44] Pero yun po sir, marami pong menu of activities and projects that the different LGUs can actually use. [1:42:54] Propose para po yun yung maging mas maitawid natin at magamit natin yung TUPAD for a more sustainable employment opportunities para sa ating mga kababayan. [1:43:08] But pati din po doon sa comment po ni nanay regarding sa job fair, we take note of yung comment na yung tignan po namin kung paano pa namin mas mapapaganda yung access ng ating mga 4Ps. [1:43:22] We have initial partnership already with the SWD wherein we conduct specific job fairs for senior high school, for 4Ps beneficiaries. [1:43:34] So may pagkilala po kasi tayo na dapat talaga ay maitawid natin yung ating mga 4Ps beneficiaries to employment para yun po talaga yung magiging way out of their poverty. [1:43:46] So i-ano po namin yun sir, but yung rest assured po na hindi lang po yung paglilinis ang TUPAD. [1:43:51] So yung rest assured po na hindi lang po yung paglilinis ang TUPAD. [1:43:52] So yung rest assured po na hindi lang po yung paglilinis ang TUPAD. [1:43:53] Yeah but it's not on the core ng TUPAD but there are more sustainable projects that we can support under the TUPAD funds. [1:44:01] Thank you Asek de Castro. [1:44:03] Dito po sa 4Ps, meron po tayo mang gagraduate na dito ba sabi natin, medyo not poor na. [1:44:12] E paano eto biglang nagkaroon tayo ng crisis? Balik na naman. [1:44:16] Parang kahaling tulad po eto nung pandemic, kahaling tulad po eto nung mag Secretaria ko ng DSWD. [1:44:22] graduate now kailang bumalik kasi wala eh. So paano ito ngayon? So yung mga pag-graduate mo [1:44:29] wag mo nang gagraduate dahil mayroon tayong crisis. There's a crisis. Asek Demoporo. [1:44:37] Honorable Chair, for programmatic concerns I'll turn it over to Asek Maris and to also [1:44:44] further elucidate on our case management. Doon po sa ating nagtatransition po ngayon [1:44:52] na around 200,000 households na talaga na-assess na po sila as self-sufficient based naman [1:45:00] po yun doon sa kanilang 3D tool that we are using. Tumaas na po ang antas na kanilang [1:45:08] pamumuhay. They are considered already as self-sufficient households. In fact, this [1:45:14] April po talaga is graduating na sila. Completed na po yung kanilang 6 months transition. [1:45:22] So, [1:45:23] sa tingin po naman namin, hindi naman po dapat maudlot yung kanilang pag-out doon sa [1:45:29] program. Kung may mga iba man itong impact naman po nitong oil crisis, may iba naman [1:45:35] siguro ibang programa po na pwedeng tubogon but not necessarily the purpose program. [1:45:40] Dahil may mga naghahantay na rin po talaga tayo ng mga waitlisted na kinakailangan na rin [1:45:45] po makapasok at yun pong bagong identified po based doon po sa CBMS na [1:45:52] isinagawa po ng Philippine Statistics Authority. [1:45:57] Thank you for that. Anyway, well, for lack of material time, let's discuss po itong sustainable [1:46:07] livelihood program natin in our next hearing. Right now, I'd like to thank our resource [1:46:13] person for sharing this committee valuable comments and recommendations on the subject [1:46:18] matter on the hand. On hand, let me remind the resource persons to submit your respective [1:46:23] position. [1:46:24] Papers to elaborate on the opinions and positions you have expressed today and to [1:46:30] further enhance the provisions of the proposed amendments to RA number 11310 or the [1:46:36] Four-Piece Act. I hereby convene the technical working group on Four-Piece Act. Okay. Pero [1:46:42] before anything else, I would like to just share this to you. Sana po itong ayuda natin. [1:46:48] Hindi po ito one time lang. Kasi that's what I'm really scared. Paano po pag tumagal ito? [1:46:55] Paano po umabot? [1:46:56] Ito na hanggang June and we have to prepare and brace ourselves, lalo na po yung mga mahirap na kababayan natin, yung very vulnerable sectors po yung ating mga manggagawa, lalo pa't magpapasokan po. Ngayon, medyo ngayon nga po, bakasyon mga bata, pabakasyon, nararamdaman po ng bawat pamilya. How much more po pagdating ng pasokan? This is double whammy. Problema na nga, yung pang matrikula, et cetera, mga gamit, magpagmataas po yung expenses. That's another problem. [1:47:21] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] Thank you very much. [1:47:22] That's another problem. So, dudulog at dudulog po ulit itong mga transport sector na ito na ayuda muli para ika nga mga anak nila makapasok sa school pa rin, makapag-aral, lalo na po itong mga vulnerable na ito, mga four-piece po ninyo sa DSWD, mga members po nito. [1:47:45] Ganon din po yung ating doli, mga manggagawa. Ganon din po sa ating mga fisher folks, ating mga magsasaka, mangingisaka. [1:47:53] Kailangan din po tulong. Kasi pagsasabihin po natin na one time lang po ito, it's not going to cut. Hindi po talaga po pwede. Dahil kung ito po ay tatagal hanggang Mayo, Hunyo, Abril po tayo, medyo isang buwan, dalawang buwan po ay mas mabigat. Kung lumabot pa po ito ng hanggang Hunyo, which is pasokan na talaga may harapan. So I guess there should be an effort. [1:48:18] And I think meron po tayong ginagawa dito kami sa Senado, yung tinatawag namin protect, okay, to... [1:48:25] To bring all these agencies together and let's put our heads together to ikang work para sa mga kababayan po natin. We in the government agencies, this is our job. Tayo po dapat manguna dito in a public service. No matter what your capacity, this government agencies is our duty. [1:48:46] Tayo po nakatingala po sa ating mga kababayan natin. Ano po may tutulong natin sa kanila in this crisis. [1:48:56] Anyway, I thank everyone for joining us. Without the chairman suspend this public hearing, the committee will inform you of the TWG schedule and for the next round of hearing for the Sustainable Livelihood Program. Magandang tanghali po sa inyong lahat.