'Very highly unusual': Marcoleta slams Lacson for refusing to answer questions on flood report

[0:00] In the interest of orderly and more comprehensive discussions and productive deliberations, [0:06] and to avoid redundant and repetitive clarificatory questions that may be posited by our colleagues, [0:12] I reserve my right to address any and all interpolations after my sponsorship of the still pending Parcel Committee Report. [0:24] Dalawa na lang po, two or three more, at pwede nang i-file sa Bills and Index Division ng Senado ang Parcel Committee Report. [0:35] Until then, Mr. President, I am not yet yielding the floor. Thank you, Mr. President. [0:40] Thank you. Jody Leader. [0:49] We recognize our distinguished colleague from TALAC. [0:51] Senator Dante Marcoleta, sir. [0:53] Thank you, Mr. President. [0:57] Mr. President, may I ask Senator Luxon if he wishes to yield some questions. [1:06] I'll say it again, Mr. President. [1:14] Until the Parcel Committee Report is submitted or filed with the Bills and Index Division, [1:21] and until after I have sponsored the Parcel Committee Report, I'm not yielding the floor. [1:30] Mr. President, that is very highly unusual. [1:33] Mr. President, why would Senator Luxon make a precondition that the Parcel Report should be signed by at least a majority of its members before he can yield the interpolation? [1:55] Yes. [1:55] May I place on record that it is the prerogative of any member of the Senate to yield or not yield. [2:05] As a matter of fact, in my many years here, Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago, and I'm sure Senator De Estrada is well aware of this, who was with me. [2:16] Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago, every time she delivers a privileged speech, does not entertain any interpolation. [2:22] Yes, Mr. President, but this is different. [2:28] And then, as I said, did he say the prerogative of Senator Santiago, and it is likewise the prerogative of Senator Luxon, [2:35] because he wants that, as he mentioned, he wanted that his Parcel Committee Report be reported out and sponsored before he can answer any questions to that effect. [2:49] Mr. President, if Senator Luxon would just say that he doesn't want to be interpolated, that would be okay with me. [2:57] But he should not make a precondition that his unwillingness, his condition upon whether or not the Parcel Report should be signed by the majority. [3:10] This is very unusual, Mr. President. [3:13] Yes, we respect your opinion. [3:14] And because he doesn't want to be interpolated, may I just be given the opportunity to make manifestation, because my name was mentioned by Senator Luxon. [3:27] Of course, of course you may. [3:28] Thank you, Mr. President. [3:33] Mr. President, I cannot speak for our colleagues why they hesitate or even refuse to sign the Parcel Report he allegedly disseminated to the members. [3:49] But as for myself, Mr. President, I cannot sign a Parcel Report. [3:59] A Parcel Report is basically unfinished. [4:03] An unfinished report cannot be assumed to have contained the final and collective judgment of all the members. [4:09] This is very basic, Mr. President. [4:12] Secondly, I did not heed my reasons why I cannot sign the Parcel Report. [4:24] I delivered a privilege speech some time ago, Mr. President, outlining the reasons, therefore, number one, I was expecting the chairman of the Blue Ribbon Committee to have conducted several hearings more. [4:41] And in those hearings, he should have invited several persons whom I enumerated in my privilege speech. [4:52] Namely, Yusek Adrian Bersamin, Yusek Jojo Cadiz, former Governor Luis Chavez Simpson, former Speaker Martin Romualdez, former Congressman Saldico, by way of an apostilled sworn statement, because this is very, very possible. [5:26] An apostilled sworn statement, Mr. President, as I have already advised the chairman of the Blue Ribbon Committee, is similar to a sworn statement notarized by the Philippine Consulate in any part of the world, [5:46] because this apostilled manner or method of subscription was already adopted by the Supreme Court in one of its resolutions, Mr. President. [6:00] I also advocated that the 18 ex-soldiers be immediately be invited because they have so much to say. [6:15] Because I thought he said and he emphasized at some point that wherever the evidence is, the BRSC will be led there too, Mr. President. [6:29] Ang sabi pa po niya, Mr. President, eh, hindi option yung inter-parliamentary courtesy. [6:44] At kung ako po ba'y tatawagin pala sa mababang kapulungan, dahil meron pala silang itatanong tungkol sa di o mano ay mga donasyon na aking tinanggap. [6:59] Mr. President, I will willingly present myself with or without invitation. [7:10] They deserve to suggest to me that they wanted me there. [7:13] I will go there, Mr. President. [7:15] Inter-parliamentary courtesy is between the two chambers, Mr. President. [7:22] Tayo-tayo po ang pinag-uusapan na maggalangan doon. [7:28] Pero ang nangyari, Mr. President, ang ating boss, ang mga amo natin, ang taong bayan, [7:35] ang hindi na po ay ginalang, eh, hindi lang pangbabastos sa mga taong bayan ang ginawa ng mga magnanakaw at kawatan nitong flood control projects. [7:50] Igagalang pa ba natin, Mr. President, ang mga tinutungo ng ebidensya na sangkot ang mga taong gusto nating ipatawag in this chamber? [8:05] Gagamitin pa po bang isang dahilan na kailangan natin maggalangan kung sila mismo ay hindi na ay ginalang ang taong bayan na ngayon ay halos nagdurusan na. [8:17] Tama po, sinabi niya kanina, Mr. President, talagang mainit ang panahon. [8:23] Ang heat index ay talagang sumadsad na talaga sa pinakamainit na bahagi. [8:28] Ngunit ang lalong nagpapainit nito, Mr. President, ay yung kawalan ng political will na ipagpatuloy, na ipagpatuloy ang pagdinig. [8:39] Kahit na lantaran na, na nando na talaga ang mga ebidensya. [8:45] Bakit po hindi tayo tumawag ng pagdinig, Mr. President? [8:50] In-invita si Governor Luis Chabit Singson. [8:56] Sa pagkakalam ko sa mga accounts na nababasa ko, he was invited to appear on April 14. [9:07] At binigyan po siya ng pagkakataon hanggang April 7, hanggang alas 5 ng hapon, [9:14] na ihay ng kanyang sinumpaang salaysay. [9:18] Hanggang alas 5 ng hapon, Mr. President. [9:20] Ngunit 9.15 ng umaga, ipinaabot sa bahay ng dating gobernador na kinakansila na po ang nasabing pagdinig. [9:35] At ginamit pang dahilan, paano po nangyari yun, Mr. President? [9:44] E binigyan siya hanggang alas 5 ng Abril 7 na isabit. [9:50] Sa pagkakaalam ko po, nandun na siya sa Maynila at nanananghali. [9:54] Pagkatapos na itutuloy siya sa opisina ni Senator Laxon para ihayin yung sworn statement na kanyang inihanda. [10:03] Bakit po kinakailangang dumating pa si Saldico? [10:08] Inihintay siguro ni Saldico, Mr. President, [10:11] ideklara lang ng chairman ng Blue Ribbon Committee, [10:16] iapostil mo lang yan kahit nasaan ka sa anumang bansa ka sa Europe, [10:20] tatanggapin ng kumitiyan at pagkatapos ihahayaan ka namin sa magitan ng Zoom, [10:28] ay pumayag ka at iimbitehan ka namin para sa isang special na pagdinig kung yan ang gusto mo. [10:35] Yun lang siguro ang gusto niyang marinig. [10:37] Bakit ikukondisyon pa natin ang pagdating niya rito, Mr. President, [10:42] kung yung apostil-john statement is sufficient enough for him to do just that? [10:49] Ano po ba tayo rito? Nagtatakip po ba talaga tayo? [10:53] Mr. President, kayo po ay maaring makapagtestigo sa sasabihin ko. [11:05] Nung isang araw po, pinuntahan ko kayo sa inyong opisina [11:09] at binanggit po akong isang bagay na maaring makatulong sa atin kung paano kilalanin si Sen. Loxo. [11:26] Binanggit ko po sa inyo, Mr. President, [11:29] na ang buong katapatan nung ako'y wala pa po sa Kongreso, wala pa po sa public service, [11:42] nakilala ko po si Sen. Loxo, bilang chief ng PNP. [11:48] Nabanggit ko po sa inyo, Mr. President, sa ating pag-uusap sa inyong opisina. [11:54] Mula noon, nung makita ko siya, lalong-lalong na po doon sa episode na pinatawag po niya, [12:02] ang lahat ng kinaukulan na mayroong mga nakaw na sasakyan, mga karnap na sasakyan. [12:11] Ngaalala ko po na sinabi niya, Mr. President, [12:14] lahat ng mga ninakaw na sasakyan dalhin niyo rito sa Camp Crami. [12:23] No questions asked. [12:26] Dahil palagi po akong dumadaan sa EDSA, Mr. President, [12:32] naligopisina ko po sa Ortigas, nakita ko pong nakabuntun lahat talaga ang mga ninakaw na sasakyan. [12:39] Talaga pong hinangaan ko, Sen. Loxo. [12:42] Walang nakagawa noon sa aking palagay kung hindi siya lang. [12:48] Di ba, Mr. President, sinabi ko pa sa iyo, [12:51] sayang wala na ka ako yung aking kaibigan, [12:54] yung dating mayor ng Marikina, Bayani Fernando. [12:58] Dahil kinausap ko po siya, sabi ko, Bayani, [13:02] alam mo, yung ginagawa mo sa Marikina, gusto ko rin eh. [13:06] At yung ginagawa ni Chief PNP, Ping Lakson, gusto ko rin. [13:11] Ayaw mo ba siyang kausapin na kayong dalawa tumakbo? [13:15] Si Ping Lakson ang President, ikaw naman ang Vice President. [13:20] Kinuwento ko sa iyo yan, Mr. President. [13:23] Bakit ko po sinasabi ngayon ito, ginong Pangulo? [13:30] Nung umpisa po, talagang ganun na nakita ko po eh. [13:36] Yung kanyang kagustuhan na maayos natin ang ating bansa. [13:42] Yung sinasabi niyang track record, maring umpisa, nandun po yun eh. [13:47] Hindi ko ikukwento ito kung hindi talagang hinangaan ko siya noon. [13:51] Pero bakit ngayon po ay nagkaiba, Mr. President? [13:59] Parang yung pedestal na aking hinangaan, yung alamat na nandun, [14:04] unti-unting gumuho, nalulungkot po ako at nangyari yun, Mr. President. [14:12] Ang sabi ko pa nga eh, walang di ba tayo dapat maglaban-laban dito eh. [14:18] Ang kapakanan ng mamamaya ng ating bansa, ang importante rito po eh. [14:22] Yung direksyon natin, bakit kailangan akong palaging pinapasaringan? [14:33] Hindi naman po ang aking kagustuhan eh, kung sino yung dapat nasumikat, [14:41] kung sino yung dapat magpasikat, hindi po yun. [14:43] Isa lang po ang sikat dito, Mr. President, [14:45] ang taong bayan na pinagsisilbihan nating lahat. [14:50] Doon po natin ituon ang lahat ng ating makakaya, [14:56] ang lahat ng ating energy, malampasan sana natin ang problema nito. [15:03] Ngunit, yung hindi po pagganap sa tungkulin. [15:11] Yun po yung inahanap ng tao, Mr. President. [15:14] Napakainit na po ng panahon talaga. [15:17] Pinapagiinit pa ng paghihintay [15:20] ng hindi malaman hanggang kailan maghihintay ang taong bayan. [15:27] Ano po ba ang dahilan kung bakit nagkaroon siya ng privilege speech ngayong hapon? [15:32] Para saan? Para saan? [15:37] Hindi po ba mas maganda na kumpitohin natin yung report? [15:43] Hindi partial. Ano yun? Partial final o partial provisional? [15:50] Paano ko po malalaman, Mr. President, [15:52] kung hindi po ibinigay yung hard copy? [15:55] Pipilitin akong basahin na nandun lamang sa online. [15:59] Binigyan lamang kami ng isang file para doon [16:05] kuhanin namin kami ang magprint. [16:10] Paano ko ba ikukumpara po yung ipinrint ko? [16:13] Hindi ko naman alam kung sinong gumawa nun [16:15] dahil wala nga pong pirma yun. [16:17] Doon lang sa paraan na yun. [16:19] Nagkakaroon na po ng agam-agam. [16:23] Pagkatapos eh, ayaw pa nilang mag-interpreting. [16:29] Nasa sa kanya po yun, Mr. President. [16:31] Pero ako po, ang tanging hangaring ko lamang. [16:35] Ayusin natin lahat ito. [16:38] Sabi nga po niya, hindi makakalimutan ng taong ito [16:41] at talaga naman pong hindi malilimutan [16:43] sapagkat ito na po yata [16:45] ang pinakamalawak na nakawan sa kasaysayan ng ating bansa. [16:51] Salamat po, Mr. President. [16:56] You know, you're a member of the committee. [17:01] You are being asked to sign. [17:04] That is part of your work. [17:06] You do not like the report. [17:08] You write, I dissent. [17:10] But you sign. [17:12] You have your doubt. [17:13] You doubt the committee report. [17:16] You say, with reservations. [17:18] But you sign. [17:19] Or you want to have asked questions to the reporter, the chairman. [17:25] You sign and you say, to interpolate. [17:29] That is what I learned from the statesman of the 9th Congress. [17:37] You know, ayun ang mga turo nila, Neftali. [17:40] Ayaw mo yung laman ng report? [17:42] Eh, pero member kayo. [17:43] Habi ni Neftali. [17:45] Pirmahan mo. [17:46] Ay, sabihin mo. [17:46] Ay, dissent. [17:48] Pero mo, pirmahan ka. [17:49] Because that is part of your parliamentary work. [17:52] That's why I congratulate you, Senator Reverend Tolpo. [17:56] You are, you have knowledge of your parliamentary work. [18:00] Thank you. [18:01] Yes, Senator Jingo Estrada, you are recognized. [18:03] Maraming salamat po, Ginong Pangulo. [18:07] Una-una, ako ay nire-respecto ko po ang posisyon ng ating kasamahan, Senator Lux. [18:15] So, na hindi mo siya mag-entertain ng anumang katanungan ng mga galing po dito sa ating mga kasamahan. [18:24] Ngunit ako po ay nakikiusap sa kanya, total naman yung tampo niya at galit niya kay Senator Marculeta. [18:33] Hindi naman kasi laki ng galit niya sa akin. [18:35] Baka sa ano pwede yung makiusap kay Senator Lux. [18:39] Mga ilang katarungan lang po, kung kupe pwede po. [18:44] Kung ayaw naman po niya, eh, wala naman po tayo magagawa. [18:48] Well, as I said earlier, even Senator Estrada was here. [19:11] You know very well. [19:12] Senator Miriam, Defensor Santiago, even in very important bills like the RH bill, [19:20] she would sponsor the RH bill. [19:23] She will deliver a speech. [19:24] I want to interpellate her. [19:26] She does not want to be interpellated. [19:29] She refuses and sits down and sits down. [19:32] That's why Senator Enrile would just play his bejeweled every time she is delivering his speech. [19:39] Kasi hindi naman ako patatanong yan, eh. [19:41] Sabihin mo ano dyan, eh. [19:43] Anyway, I'm just, eh, kaya ngayon, trivia, trivia.