Tyreek Hill Cross Exam Part 2 — Trial Testimony

[00:00:00] Speaker 1: a lot of people have been upset with me for not speaking into the microphone I feel like I'm yelling at you but I don't intend to can you hear me okay excellent I'm sorry so before the lunch break mr. Hill right we went over some questions you have been asked at previous proceedings depositions and hearings and things like that yes sir did you review those things to prepare for your testimony today I cannot these are extremely serious allegations that are being made against you do you agree with that you just hit me with like two questions I think I'm confused on what you're trying to ask these are extremely serious allegations that are being made against you in this case do you agree yes sir I agree and you did not strike them this is not the first time here today and yesterday that you have been asked questions about these topics right what do you what do you mean you were asked about these topics in two different depositions right if you're including [00:01:17] Rick: the divorce and this portion of it yes sir that is what I'm referring to okay let's make sure you're [00:01:25] Speaker 1: on the same page sir I want everyone to be on the same page thank you for that and you did not review those depositions before you testified yesterday no sorry you did not review them before you testified today what sir you describe yourself as a great communicator right yes sir I would like to think so you get media training as part of your NFL experience don't mean you're trying it none none you [00:01:58] Rick: wouldn't you would think that they are giving to you but so going back to some [00:02:08] Speaker 1: of your testimony about your NFL experience yesterday you remember giving that testimony if you can refresh me that'll be perfect sure the only thing you can do like in my sport you got to control what you can control and I try to add that same principle to my life you remember testifying to die gesture I do sir so that control is important to you as long as I'm controlling what I can control you don't like feeling to control right what do you mean do you like feeling controlled I have no idea what that means you've described yourself as someone who's going to test the windows right depending on the situation well if someone tells you hey Tyreke don't go don't walk out that door right now you're going to test the limits right I would not [00:03:01] Rick: test the limits if the owner told me don't walk out that door you think I'm just gonna get up and go [00:03:04] Speaker 1: that's fair good qualification if someone other than the judge told you don't walk out that door you would still get up and walk out right I would not get up and walk out that door you would recall testifying differently to that position I just say it depending on the [00:03:18] Rick: circumstances but if you can refresh me that would be great sir thank you [00:03:24] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. [00:04:24] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:04:54] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:05:24] Speaker 1: So do you recall now, testifying in a deposition, that if you tell me, hey, Rick, don't go, if you say, hey, Rick, don't walk out that door right now, I'm going to test the limits, that's an example, right? [00:05:40] Rick: Yeah, I did say that in a deposition. [00:05:42] Speaker 1: That's a way of saying it, someone tells you not to do something, you're going to do it? It depends on the situation, like I said. Well, you testified yesterday that your family loved Kia, right? Correct. And they were happy for you when you told them that he took and got married, right? Right. And by your family, that specifically includes your grandparents who raised you? [00:06:04] Rick: When I say family, I mean I'm close to all of my family, you know, I'm close to my grandparents, I mean my mom, my aunties, my uncles, just everybody in my entirety of a circle. [00:06:18] Speaker 1: Well, my question is specifically about your grandparents who made me happy for you. Do you remember testifying to that yesterday? Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, sir. Now, do you recall testifying differently in a deposition? [00:06:31] Rick: I may have misspoken, but if you can refresh me, that would be great. Sure. Thank you. [00:06:48] Speaker 3: Thank you. [00:07:18] Rick: I don't see nothing you've got up there. I've got a lot of users, Olivia. [00:07:44] Speaker 1: Make sure we're on the same page. You were asked about whether your marriage went forward over the objections of your mom and dad, right? That basically said, basically, but everybody done. I just want to be clear on the question you were asked first, okay? That's what the deposition says, sir. Right. So the deposition question you were asked is, so, sir, sounds like you decided to go forward with the marriage, kind of over the objections of your mom and dad. [00:08:11] Rick: I said that one more time. I mean, I'm a slow processor, sorry. [00:08:19] Speaker 1: So, sir, it sounds like you decided to go forward with the marriage, kind of over the objections of your mom and dad. And your answer was basically of everybody. My friends, everybody. That was your testimony in the deposition, right? Yes, sir. And you went on to testify. You went, sorry. Why did you decide to marry Tita, then? [00:08:43] Rick: Because I loved her. I feel like at the end of the day, like, my family supported me no matter what. You know what I'm saying? People can have opinions. Everybody has opinions. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, it's up to me and I have to figure it out. You know? [00:08:59] Speaker 1: At deposition, you were asked the same question. Why did you decide to marry her? You gave a different answer. Do you remember that? [00:09:05] Rick: Well, if you could refresh me, please, that'd be great. Sure. [00:09:26] Speaker ?: Where are we now? [00:09:29] Speaker 1: 84. It's the same question. [00:09:33] Rick: I don't know why I'm going to have to come on. [00:09:36] Speaker 3: I can read it. Yeah, perfect. [00:09:42] Speaker 1: In the deposition, you were asked, okay, so why did you decide to marry her? And your answer was, I already answered you. I basically told you, like, if somebody would tell me, don't do something, I'm going to do it. That was your answer in the deposition. Right? Right. Correct. [00:10:00] Speaker ?: All right. [00:10:03] Speaker 1: You believe, and I think you testified already, that in the marriage, the man's role is to lead, right? [00:10:10] Rick: I mean, that's what, at least that's how I was raised and taught. [00:10:14] Speaker 1: You did not like it when you felt that Keto was controlling you, right? [00:10:18] Rick: No, she got her own life. She can do her own thing. You know, she got her own objectives. It's like, you know, I had my life before. But she had her life too, you know? And whenever we would come together, you know, that's when we did our thing together. But obviously, if she wanted to lead sometimes, she'd lead, bro. I would let you know, like, in my grandparents' marriage, primarily. And yes, my dad says he's the leader, but at the end of the day, we all know who lead in that marriage. And that's my grandmother. She run that marriage, you know? And that's the same example, what I wanted with wifey. [00:10:54] Speaker 1: You thought he'd have played mind games with you? [00:10:59] Rick: If you can refresh me, I don't want to give you an answer. You just wanted that from here to here. Okay. Okay. [00:11:46] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:11:50] Speaker 1: In that position you were asked, the mind game was about the post-nup. Your answer was no, this is just her way of controlling the situation. You know what I'm saying? Not being able to have those kinds of conversations with me. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I wanted to be on the same page. I didn't want my divorce to end because of the post-nup agreement, marriage to end. I'm sorry. You misspoke there. That was your testimony to deposition, right? [00:12:16] Rick: Yes, sir. It was. [00:12:19] Speaker 1: So, it frustrated you when you couldn't leave her, right? [00:12:24] Rick: Like I said and been saying from day one. The post-nup agreement is just something. It's like a book plan. It's like a contract. Or one of you having contract negotiation talks or whatever with a team, per se. Let's just say, hey, Tyree, or my agent would go to that team and say, hey, we think he deserves this amount. And the team would come back and say, well, particularly, he's not performing the way he's performing. So, we think he deserved that, this amount. That was all that was. What are you saying that was again? I'm sorry. I keep forgetting. Mr. Whaley. Mr. Whaley? Mr. Whaley. So, that's really all that was. That's going to lead for me to control the situation. Because like I said, if I didn't want to be in that situation, I would have just evacuated. I would have quit. But my love for my wife, I wanted to see it work. I wanted us to work towards a common goal. And then even work through the agreement. I wanted us to work on that together. You know? Like, she sent it to her attorney. She knew her thing. They sent it back. Mr. You finished? Mr. Maybe. [00:13:31] Speaker ?: Yes. [00:13:32] Rick: Sorry. Mr. Do you think this is funny? [00:13:35] Speaker ?: Mr. It's not funny. Sorry. Mr. Do you remember what my question was? Mr. No, sir. I don't. Mr. Let's try answering the questions. [00:13:42] Speaker 3: We don't need to be here any longer than we have to be here. Mr. You don't have an argument. Mr. It's this thing. [00:13:46] Speaker 1: Mr. It frustrated you when you couldn't control Keita. Right? Mr. No, sir. [00:13:52] Rick: I did not. [00:13:53] Speaker 1: Mr. So, I'm going to show you what's good marks on our exhibit list. Mr. Thank you. Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. Let me know if you had a chance to review it. [00:14:28] Speaker ?: Mr. Okay, done. Mr. Do you recognize Exhibit 32 as text messages between yourself and Keita? [00:14:30] Speaker 1: Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. Move these into evidence, you aren't. [00:14:33] Speaker ?: Mr. Any objections? Mr. No objections. Mr. Shall be it. Mr. Thank you. [00:14:37] Speaker 1: Mr. No objections. [00:14:38] Speaker ?: Mr. Thank you. [00:14:38] Speaker 1: Mr. No objections. Mr. No objections. Mr. Do you recognize Exhibit 32 as text messages between yourself and Keita? Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. Move these into evidence, you aren't. Mr. Any objections? Mr. No objections. Mr. Shall be it. [00:14:48] Speaker 3: Mr. No objections. Mr. Shall be it. [00:14:50] Speaker ?: Mr. Thank you. [00:14:51] Speaker 1: Mr. You can call out that middle message, please. Mr. Your wife writes me here on August 20th of 2024, right? Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. Have you received this message at the time, you see? Mr. Yes, I see it. Mr. Can you respond to that message later? Mr. I do. Mr. But in her message to you, she writes, "When you speak to me disrespectively, she hears it too." Mr. That's referring to your daughter, right? Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. She was not born there at that point. Mr. She was. Mr. She goes on to say, "I won't tolerate you treating either of us that way. Mr. She doesn't deserve to hear those hurtful words, and I'm not going to let her be exposed to that." Mr. You got this message? Mr. Yes, sir, I did. Mr. Can you just read the rest of that, please? [00:15:55] Speaker ?: Mr. I don't even know what you left off that. [00:15:56] Speaker 1: Mr. Am I reading? Mr. I'll read it. Mr. She should only hear positive things from you and see how a man should treat a woman, not the opposite. Mr. You agree with that statement, right? Mr. Of course. Mr. You need to take a good look in the mirror and realize that your actions are impacting more than just you, right? Mr. Right. Mr. And you responded, this message was sent about 9:56. You see that at the bottom of the screen? Mr. Yes, sir. Mr. And let's go to your response. Mr. Your response was, you're absolutely right. Nobody deserves to be in this type of environment, which is why I think we should think about going our separate ways, right? Mr. Right. Mr. Now, you were asked about these messages in your depositions. Mr. Do you remember that? Mr. I don't remember, but if you can refresh me, that'd be perfect. Mr. Wally. Mr. I will never say no to that, Mr. Hill. Mr. I will never say no to that, Mr. Hill. [00:17:32] Rick: Mr. I'm sorry. Mr. I felt like I was trying to just take it. Mr. All right. Mr. All right. [00:17:36] Speaker ?: Mr. All right. Thank you. Got it? [00:18:14] Speaker 1: Yes, sir. You can hang on to that one. Oh, okay. We'll save some time. Go ahead. [00:18:19] Speaker 3: Phil. Could you open the door on this table? [00:18:27] Speaker 1: Can I have a seat here on? Please. So you were asked about this text message exchange or deposition, right? Right, yes, sir. And your response was, sounds very controlling, trying to control the situation, right? [00:18:42] Rick: As far as my response in the deposition, right? Yes. Say that again? [00:18:46] Speaker 1: Your response in the deposition, on page 237, right in front of you, was, sounds very controlling, trying to control the situation. Right, yep. You did not like when she stood up for herself. [00:18:58] Speaker ?: I mean, I get it right to respond back, though, right? [00:19:01] Speaker 1: I didn't say you didn't, but you didn't like when she stood up for herself. [00:19:05] Rick: No, she can stand up for herself all day. I never said nothing what was wrong with that, sir. [00:19:09] Speaker 1: You said it sounds very controlling, right? [00:19:12] Rick: That was my honest opinion in the deposition. [00:19:15] Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not your honest opinion. Mm-hmm. You felt that it was controlling. That's not a positive feeling, right? Something that's controlling? [00:19:23] Rick: I wouldn't necessarily say that, though. I just feel like you're just trying to create a narrative now, and it's not there. [00:19:29] Speaker 1: I'm just asking you questions, Mr. Hill. [00:19:31] Rick: Yes, sir. [00:19:34] Speaker 1: You testified yesterday about this argument on November 24th, 2024. Do you remember Ms. Gray asking questions about that day? Yes, sir. I do. This was an argument about what your wife was wearing in the house? [00:19:52] Rick: I would say that was part of it. It was part of the argument, but obviously, you know, deposition was a long time ago, so if you can refresh me, that would be perfect. [00:20:04] Speaker 1: Let's be clear. I'm not asking about your deposition a long time ago, the April deposition for this year. I'm asking about your testimony from yesterday afternoon. Yes, sir. So in your testimony yesterday afternoon, you were asked, do you recall any arguments or disputes that took place that morning, being November 24th? Yes, sir. Your answer was just typical husband-wife argument, like one of those situations where Keita was barely wearing clothes in the house, and my granddad was there. I'm like, hey, can you put on some clothes, because my granddad is there, flung your booty around in front of my pops. I mean, you've got to have kind of respect for that, I think. That was kind of the argument. And she was like, and then you raised your voice and said, hey, this is my house. And all right, bro. Do you remember that question and answer? Was that deposition? No, that was yesterday afternoon. Yeah. So you mocked her voice yesterday afternoon. Do you remember that? [00:20:59] Speaker 3: Objection. You're on an argument. [00:21:00] Speaker 1: It's sustained. That argument you testified yesterday was about what she was wearing in the home, right? [00:21:09] Rick: I mean, like I said, like, it was about probably what she was wearing around my parents, because I felt like that was disrespectful, and then also the fact that of her, like, getting ready too, though. Like, being late to the game. Could be a... [00:21:25] Speaker 1: You felt like she was being disrespectful. [00:21:30] Rick: I mean, if somebody's... If your wife is walking around the house, barely wearing any clothes in front of your family, where I'm from, that's kind of disrespectful. But I guess... My wife can wear whatever she wants in my house. [00:21:42] Speaker 1: Our house. Please don't come. So you testified yesterday, the first time you saw Keita was at Club Live? Yes, sir. You flashed your grill at her? [00:21:56] Rick: I mean, it was in, so she had to see it. [00:21:59] Speaker 1: Well, you testified yesterday. I flashed my grill at her, right? Yes, sir. And what did you say to her? [00:22:05] Rick: I didn't want to say nothing much to her. Did you show her my phone? [00:22:09] Speaker 1: Yesterday, you said, you said, I gotcha, right? [00:22:13] Rick: That was like in your head space. You know how you talk to yourself? [00:22:17] Speaker 1: You'd be like, I gotcha. That's fair. That was not clear. So in your head, you thought, I gotcha. Yes, sir. You testified today about taking your daughter to Disney. Do you remember that testimony? [00:22:31] Speaker ?: I do. Okay. [00:22:32] Speaker 1: Okay. This is not the first time you testified about this experience with the bright line in your wife, right? Actually, the same time, I believe. The first time was at your deposition in a divorce case. Do you remember that? [00:22:57] Speaker ?: I don't. [00:22:59] Rick: I just remember talking about it in court, I think. [00:23:02] Speaker 1: Yes, that's fair. While we're looking for that, your testimony today was very clear that you told Kida where you were bringing your daughter, right? [00:23:33] Rick: I don't want to misspeak about anything. I don't want to misspeak about anything. [00:23:45] Speaker ?: You know? I don't want to, yeah. [00:23:47] Rick: I'm not even going to misspeak. [00:23:48] Speaker ?: I'm not even going to misspeak. [00:23:49] Rick: If you could refresh me, that would be perfect. [00:23:51] Speaker 1: I'm just asking when you testified about, I don't have a record of what we did this morning. I'm just asking if you remember testifying this morning. You said very clearly that you told your wife that you were taking your daughter to Disney, right? I don't even want to put that on the record, sir. [00:24:04] Rick: I just don't want to get, like, a blurry line about anything. [00:24:08] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:24:09] Speaker 1: I don't want to have blurry lines about anything either, Mr. Hill. Yes, sir. So let's try to take this in order. You were asked about this bright line issue in a deposition in the divorce case a little more than a year ago. Do you remember that? [00:24:24] Rick: Could you refresh me, please? Yes. Thank you. [00:24:27] Speaker 1: Let's put your hands on it. [00:24:29] Speaker 3: Is it worse that position? [00:24:37] Speaker ?: So, here. All the hot. All the hot. All the hot. [00:25:26] Speaker 1: You good? Yes, sir. I'm going to leave you with this copy. You make this as fast as we come up here. Appreciate that. So, now you recall that you were asked about this bright line issue in your divorce deposition, right? Right. You did not tell your wife that you were going to take the baby to Orlando. [00:26:06] Rick: But I did tell her that I was going to be spending the day with our daughter. [00:26:11] Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah. But you did not tell her, I'm going to take the baby to Orlando. Correct. You're correct. [00:26:16] Speaker ?: You're correct. [00:26:22] Speaker 1: Do you recall what you told her about what you would be doing with the baby that day? [00:26:36] Rick: Yeah, I told her I was going to lunch with the baby girl that day. But, obviously, like, she would be told, like, there's so much going on. Like, there was a lot going on, you know, sir. And I'm sorry that I didn't communicate, you know what I'm saying, how I needed to communicate with, you know, he that day. I had so, this is not even an excuse, I had so many people telling me that I have every right. Every single right. [00:27:08] Speaker 1: Can I ask you for what other people told you? [00:27:10] Rick: Your Honor, the witness is answering. You ask the question. [00:27:15] Speaker 1: So, you can understand why your wife would be alarmed that the baby tracker showed the baby getting on the bright line in Orlando if all you told her wasn't taking her to lunch, right? [00:27:30] Speaker 3: I object, Your Honor. How's the speculation? [00:27:32] Speaker 1: Testified about the tracking. [00:27:34] Speaker 3: No. The question is not the fact that this may be interesting. [00:27:42] Speaker 1: Sorry, I know we've thrown around a lot of dates. In May of 2020, this was in May of 2025, the bright line. I have no idea what year it would be, sir. Can you just check back on the deposition? Page 95 of the divorce deposition, you have it in front of you. Oh, I've got to find it for you. Page 95 of the divorce deposition, you were asked on May 30th, do you recall telling Keita that you were coming over and taking the baby to lunch? Do you remember that? This is the day of the bright line incident. Your answer was, oh, sure, yeah. Yeah, sure, sorry. You got to refresh me. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Right? Right. So, in May, she was six months old, seven months old, something like that? Correct. You heard Keita testify about a January 21st incident at a hotel in Orlando? Yes, sir. I did. Originally, when you were questioned about this, you claimed not to remember that incident. Do you remember that? [00:28:57] Rick: I know. [00:29:13] Speaker ?: Okay. You go to the April deposition? [00:29:16] Speaker 1: Yes, well, here. There's one that says April 2026 on the front. [00:29:23] Rick: Can I say it right now? Yes, sir. Can I say it right now on the page? [00:29:30] Speaker 1: 151. Halfway down the page, it says, that morning at the Orlando Hotel. What does it say? That morning at the Orlando Hotel. There's maybe I saw something else in there. [00:29:56] Rick: Oh, okay. I see it. It's halfway. Okay, back. Got it. [00:30:02] Speaker 1: So, at that deposition, you were asked that morning at the Orlando Hotel, did you ask her to sign the post-natural agreement again? Answer, I mean, you had conversations about it. Question, do you remember that morning? Answer, I don't remember that morning. But I would remember us always having, like, that would, that would, like, the totality of our marital issues right there, was that agreement right there, in the bowl. And we would always argue about it. We would always have, like, conversations about it. That was your testimony in your deposition? Yes, sir. Okay, you can set that down. You had two friends with you at the Orlando Hotel? Yes, sir. I had two of my friends there. Julius and Swerve? Yes, sir. And what did they do? Didn't they do something for your company? [00:30:48] Rick: No, they didn't. They didn't do nothing for my company. [00:30:51] Speaker 1: These are just friends of yours? They're just friends of mine. You say in front of your friends that he didn't need a BDL? [00:30:56] Rick: I would never disrespect my wife like that in front of my friends. And, plus, I have good enough friends that would, if I would remotely say something like [00:31:04] Speaker ?: that, they would, they would instantly whoop my butt. [00:31:08] Rick: So I have good enough friends that would hold me to a standard and hold me to a combo, too. [00:31:14] Speaker 1: So you never said that Keita needed a BDL or called her a bony ass in front of your friends? [00:31:20] Rick: Not in front of my friends. [00:31:21] Speaker 1: Did you do that in private? In private? [00:31:26] Speaker ?: Yeah. [00:31:27] Speaker 1: Did you do it in private in Orlando that day? That day? [00:31:33] Speaker ?: Oh. Hmm. [00:31:38] Speaker 1: On January 20th or 21st, did you call Keita a bony ass who needed a BDL in private? [00:31:45] Rick: In private, yeah. [00:31:48] Speaker 1: Now, she said, and you heard her testimony, that you grabbed her by the breasts during this argument, right? Yeah, that's her testimony. That's her testimony. I know you don't agree with it, but that's what she said. Fair. Now, she also said you tried to take the writ off her finger. You heard that testimony? Yes, sir. I heard that. Now, there was an argument about the ring, did you get that? Oh, argument about the ring? Yes. [00:32:10] Rick: Oh, did I say that with my deposition? [00:32:13] Speaker 1: You sure did. Page 158. All the way at the bottom of the page, the last question. Okay. [00:32:42] Speaker ?: I think I'm in the wrong room. April 24th. [00:32:47] Speaker 1: So you remember now, telling the police that there was an argument about the ring, right? Yes, sir. And during that argument, according to what you told the police, you wanted that ring back. [00:33:28] Speaker 3: I object, Your Honor, if he's misstating what the deposition statement said. [00:33:35] Speaker 1: Overruled. You told the police, you told the police, I mean, I'll read the full question and answer. Telling the officer what was the argument about the ring. Answer. I mean, I just felt like, man, if we're going to get a divorce, you might just, like, hand the ring back. Like, you go your way, I go my way, and we just call it even. I mean, I thought that was the ethical thing to do. That was your answer, right? Yes, sir. And you testified yesterday, afternoon, in response to a direct question from your lawyer that your wife never told you before the divorce that you harmed her in Orlando. Do you remember that question? I don't know. [00:34:24] Rick: It sounds like you're trying to, like, twist the words. I want me to look at Mr. Walden. [00:34:29] Speaker 1: I'm not trying to twist anything. Let's read the words. The question you were asked yesterday is, following that Orlando trip, did Kia ever inform you in any way that you had physically harmed her? That is the exact question you were asked by your lawyer yesterday. Do you remember it now? A little bit. Your answer was, no, ma'am. Do you remember saying that? [00:34:54] Rick: Okay. I'm following you now. Yes, sir. [00:34:58] Speaker 1: Yes, that was your answer. You remember saying that? Yeah, yeah. That was my answer. She also asked you, did you all ever discuss it, discuss any injuries to her? And your answer was, no, ma'am. Do you remember saying that? Yes. Yes, sir. She also asked you, did she, in Kida, send you any text messages or any communications about it? Your answer was, no, ma'am. Right? Correct. Yes, sir. Now, none of that is true, right? [00:35:27] Rick: I have no idea. Like I said, like, he never accused me of any of this, like, through tics, like, battering her, like, slamming her against the wall, or healing her, like, whatever the case may be. So, that's what I mean, sir. [00:35:44] Speaker 1: Can I get Exhibit 11, please? Mr. Hill, you've been present for the entire trial, right? Yes, sir. Paying attention to everything? Paying attention to everything. Okay. Do you remember when these text messages were introduced through your wife's testimony? Yes, sir. Okay, so you can go to page four of the exhibit. January 21st, 2024, that's the date that the police came out in Orlando. You remember that? [00:36:43] Rick: Can I get one of those papers, please, sir? Because I can't see that book. Thank you. [00:36:52] Speaker ?: Thanks. Thanks. [00:36:58] Speaker 1: My question was January 21st, 2024, that's the date the police came out to Orlando. Do you remember that? 21, I'm sorry. [00:37:12] Rick: You said, I don't know when the police came out, sir. You haven't taken that up with them. [00:37:17] Speaker 1: I don't know when they came out. We're looking at the police report, refreshing memory. [00:37:21] Speaker ?: Sure. [00:37:23] Speaker 3: I think the question, he's asking him if he knows what's happening. The witness has already answered that he doesn't know. [00:37:30] Speaker 1: He said he didn't remember the date. [00:37:33] Speaker 3: He did not say that he didn't remember the date. What's the next question? [00:37:44] Speaker 1: On January 21st, 2024, people call out the bottom blue. January 21st, 2024, this is Pia's text message to you. Where was the love when you were trying to rip off my t's? Where was the love when you were disrespecting me in front of your people, telling me I need a damn BDL. I'm good exactly how I am. You remember receiving that message, right? Yes, I did. You responded to it that day. I don't got a paper. I need to. Call out the next one, please. You responded to it that day. Yes, I did. So, she's saying that you disrespected her in front of your people, or there are other people there besides Julius and Swerve? [00:38:35] Rick: Yeah, I can say my friends didn't have a lot of that. Like, I wouldn't do such a thing. [00:38:41] Speaker 1: Well, when you wrote back to her, you didn't say, I wouldn't do such a thing. You wrote, Baby, you know how I am during our intercourse. I'm sorry, BDL, baby. You don't need to know I married you. Nobody else I trusted you to wife out of everyone because I love you. That's your response that day, right? Yes, sir. [00:38:57] Rick: That is my response. [00:38:58] Speaker 1: And if you would, I mean, if they're on her, [00:39:01] Speaker ?: I mean, if you do it aloud, I don't mind explaining any of it. That's what you said that day, right? [00:39:08] Speaker 1: That's all I'm asking. Yeah. Okay. So, Babe, you know how I am during our intercourse. What you're suggesting there is the rip-off her titties with something that happened while you two were having intercourse? [00:39:22] Rick: Yes, sir. And like I said, I don't mind explaining it to you guys. I don't. But I would, obviously, if you tell me to explain it, I would like the cameras to be cut off. I'm asking for permission for our daughter's ending in the future and then also the respect of... Mr. Joe, there's no question. [00:39:38] Speaker 1: All right. Yesterday, your lawyer asked you a question with the camera on about whether you ever twisted your wife's breast. Do you remember that? Yeah. And you said no. Correct. Okay. Can we go to the next page, please? And call up the first two text messages? She then writes to you, it wasn't during sex first off. You see that? Yes, sir. And in your response, you don't say, yes, it was, right? Oh, of course, you guys had a question? [00:40:19] Speaker 3: Yeah. [00:40:20] Rick: Sorry. I mean, of course not. I mean, I'm not trying to argue with, you know, my wife. I'm trying to avoid. You know, I'm not trying to sit up here and just be arguing through a sex message. Because at that point, it's called, I believe it's called a lingering. I'm not trying to do all that with her. So why would I continue to argue through a sex message? [00:40:39] Speaker 1: She's accusing you of something pretty awful, right? [00:40:45] Speaker 3: This is all. You've got your answer. To the result. So. So. [00:40:55] Speaker ?: So. [00:41:25] Speaker 1: There was a different set of texts, and that's, well, let me put it this way. You had an 816 phone number at this time in January, 2024? [00:41:51] Speaker ?: Yes, sir. [00:41:53] Speaker 1: You had more than one phone number? I only got one phone number. [00:41:57] Speaker ?: At this time, [00:41:57] Speaker 1: in January, Oh, yes, sir. And you texted with Kida on January, 21st, 2024 on the 816 phone number. Do you remember that? Yes, sir. I did. I could approach. [00:42:24] Speaker 3: On what, sir? On what, sir? This was, this was a big mistake. Wait, what's the exhibit? [00:42:48] Speaker 1: It was a exhibit. Yeah, two days ago. [00:42:52] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. No, it's fine. No, it's fine. Okay, come to start. No, thank you. Yes, sir. No, we're going to step down. Yes, sir. No, we're going to step down. [00:43:04] Speaker ?: No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. No, we're going to step down. 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We're going to step down. We're going to step down. We'll step down. Do you remember it? [00:46:24] Rick: Well, it was a while ago, but I have to look at this. [00:46:27] Speaker 3: I'm just, I'm objecting. What is he talking about reviewing? Is it what you're saying that objection on already? Is that the same document, Mr. Willie? It was text messages? I'm asking if he remembers. I'm a reflection of recollection. Yes, I'm just saying that. We just, we just had this conversation. Yes, I'm just saying that. Mr. Willie, I heard that you forgot. Mr. Willie, please not Mr. Willie. Oh, I'm sorry. [00:46:49] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:46:51] Speaker 1: You can refresh him if it's not in evidence. I understand the court's ruling. You testified yesterday, again, what you talked about, the questions Ms. Bright asked you about Orlando. Nikita had never communicated to you that you physically abused her in Orlando, right? Do you remember we just went through that? Yes, sir. She, in fact, said to you, you tried to rip my titties off, right? [00:47:15] Speaker 3: Objections. Asked and answered. [00:47:25] Speaker 1: She said, I'm getting abused physically and mentally every day. Do you remember her saying that to you in a text message? [00:47:36] Rick: I don't. You don't have to show it to me, sir. You have to put it up on the exhibit. [00:47:42] Speaker 3: I object to hand you on it. It's the same document? Yes. Let's move on from this document. [00:47:47] Rick: Okay. Okay. [00:48:01] Speaker 1: Okay. Do you remember testimony yesterday about a phone call on May 15th? May 15th? [00:48:07] Rick: May 15th? [00:48:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. [00:48:13] Rick: Yes, sir. I'm 118. [00:48:15] Speaker 1: And you recall your testimony that you told Keita's mother that Keita needed to leave the car before she gets hurt, right? Yes, sir. And you testified yesterday that you made a statement during this call about being able to get people to hurt her, right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I did make that statement. You testified that those people were your real mom and my sister. They wanted to do things to her. That was your testimony yesterday? Yes, sir. Okay. During that call, you used the word friends, right? What do you mean? During that call, you didn't say, "I can get people to hurt her." You said, "I can get friends to hurt her." Do you remember that? I don't remember that. I can have a sidebar. Great. Yeah. [00:49:31] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:52:35] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:52:37] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:52:37] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:52:45] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:52:45] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:52:47] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:52:49] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:52:51] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:52:51] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:53:01] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:53:01] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:53:03] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. [00:53:03] Speaker 1: Thank you. [00:53:05] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:53:05] Speaker 1: Thank you. your mom and your sister wanting to do something to her, right? Of course. Who did she need protection from, Ms. Bill? Uh, no one. She doesn't need protection from anyone. Do you remember Ms. Bright asking you yesterday if you smoke? Uh, yes sir. Do you remember answering no ma'am? To be, yes sir. I'm going to let you finish your point. Go ahead. That was my point. Oh. Your lawyer asked you who smoked. You said no ma'am, right? Uh, yes. Yes sir. Now, you were asked questions about this January 30th incident in Haiti. Do you remember those questions? Yes sir. Do you remember your wife's testimony? She testified that you smashed a blunt in her face, right? Yes sir. That's what she told the police that day? Right. The police questioned you that day too, right? Yes sir. And you told them that there was a cigar, right? [00:54:07] Rick: Cigar, yes. And you told the police that you did pick it up, right? I don't recall telling anyone that, but if you could pass the police report so I could read it, that'd be perfect, Mr. Wally. [00:54:37] Speaker ?: Cigar, thank you, Mr. Wally. [00:55:07] Rick: Thank you, Mr. Wally, thank you, Mr. Wally. Thank you, Mr. Wally. Thank you, sir. [00:55:37] Speaker 1: You're not going to apologize. You told the police that day that you flicked a cigar towards her, right? [00:55:47] Speaker ?: Right. [00:55:47] Speaker 1: So you were holding a cigar and you flicked it at her. [00:55:50] Rick: No, let's not put that image out there, please. I flicked. How I explained it yesterday, like, I try to bring, you know, fun into like every atmosphere that I'm in. And I'm always trying to have fun because, like I said, I'm not trying to argue with my wife, you know? Like I said, she was sitting beside the trash can and I seen the trash can and, being specific, it was a cigar. And I just flicked the cigar, you know, towards the trash can. And I continued for my wife. [00:56:21] Speaker 1: Well, let's unpack that. So, you told the police that you started arguing about the post-up, right? You just saw that. Correct. And you flicked the cigar after the argument, right? Or during the argument. Correct. You thought it would be fun to flick a cigar at or towards your wife during the argument? [00:56:42] Rick: Like, all of the arguments you're thinking of in your head, like, it's simply, I can see what you're picturing. You're picturing April 7th argument, but all of our arguments weren't like that. Like, we had controlled conversations, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I just feel like you're just trying to paint a picture that's not there, Mr. Wally. [00:57:10] Speaker 1: This is not about what's in my head. It's about what you said and what you did. Objection on the argumentative. [00:57:15] Speaker 3: I sustained the objection, Mr. Wally. Please don't respond to this. Why is it? All right. [00:57:27] Speaker 1: There was someone else there when you flicked the cigar, right? [00:57:31] Rick: I don't think no one was there. [00:57:39] Speaker 1: Was one of your kids who was there? [00:57:42] Rick: I'm thinking. Wait, give me a second. There's so much going on. [00:57:48] Speaker ?: I can't even remember. [00:57:49] Rick: Will you refresh your recollection of what you're deposition? Yes, sir. Please. [00:57:54] Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm there? [00:57:58] Rick: What? [00:58:01] Speaker 1: Do you remember now your son was there? All right. Yes, sir. And it's your testimony yesterday that you did not flick it at her? [00:58:21] Rick: Yes. Those are my words. I don't understand what I'm at. [00:58:31] Speaker 1: You agree a man should not push his wife out of a car, right? A man shouldn't put it hanging on a woman at all. Even if they're arguing, right? No, no, sir. Ever. Ever. Now, you were asked some questions by your lawyer yesterday about the May 1st incident. Do you remember those questions? This is after the Netflix party. Yes, sir. I remember. I remember. [00:58:56] Rick: I remember. [00:58:56] Speaker 1: In your testimony, there was an argument in the car about you looking at someone, whether you looked at someone for too long, right? Yes, sir. And you testified, I think, earlier, you described PETA as an emotional beating that was specifically in the context of this argument. Do you remember that testimony? I don't remember that. Page 219 of your April deposition. This is about the context of this incident. I asked you out earlier. What age again? 219, 219, 219, the second full paragraph. [00:59:58] Rick: I ain't been to school that minute. I don't know. I forgot what paragraphs are. Can you come point it out for me? [01:00:04] Speaker ?: Sure. Thank you. Okay. The first paragraph is this. Okay. [01:00:34] Speaker 1: So that statement about the emotional beating, that was during this May 1st parline, right? Yes, sir. And you're not denying that she took a lift home that night? I'm not denying it. Do you recall giving a different answer in your deposition? I mean, I let her out. That's not my question. Do you recall giving a different answer to that question in your deposition? [01:01:03] Rick: I don't recall. Okay. [01:01:12] Speaker 3: Thank you. [01:01:42] Speaker 1: Thank you. [01:02:12] Rick: Thank you. [01:02:14] Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:02:24] Speaker 3: Your Honor, I object. This is not a impeachment. He was... He already agreed to it. I'm not sure he was telling you. [01:02:34] Speaker 1: That was your testimony in deposition? Yes, sir, it was. So when you were asked about the lift in deposition, you did not say, "I waited for her on the side of the road," right? [01:02:48] Rick: I mean, I didn't think I needed to... I didn't... In a deposition, I didn't know what was going on for real. That was my first time. I'm just answering questions. For real. [01:03:00] Speaker 1: You didn't think it was important to say that you waited for her until the car came? I mean... [01:03:06] Speaker 3: Thank you. [01:03:10] Speaker 1: Let's talk about the prenuptial and postnuptial agreements for a minute. Okay. You read, "Before the marriage, Keita was completely on board in signing a prenup." Alfred? [01:03:21] Rick: Oh, yes, sir. [01:03:22] Speaker 1: You asked her to do it before the wedding, and she was down, right? Yes, sir. Page 110... Oh, I'm sorry. She was down to sign a postnup, too, right? Yep. If you recall, testifying she was all for it, right? Yes, sir. And you only had the prenup that we've heard about, the written one, you only had that drawn up because she said she would sign it. Right? This is... [01:03:45] Rick: Before... I'm sorry. [01:03:47] Speaker 1: Postnup. Thank you. Let me back up and ask the right question. Okay. You only had the postnup drawn up because Keita said that she would sign one, right? [01:03:58] Rick: I mean, we had those discussions together, so... I'm trying to think. Yeah, we had those discussions regularly, you know? Although I believe in something else. Like I said, man, I grew up watching my grandparents in love for 50 years without a postnup, you know? And I wanted my marriage to be like that, but unfortunately I can't live my life like that, you know? But I gotta protect every time that I burn for the kilos. And so, we've had discussions about that. [01:04:35] Speaker 1: My question was, you only had the postnup drawn up because she told you that she was going to sign it, right? That's kind of a confusing question a little bit. Okay. You recall answering that question in deposition differently than you just did today. Could you refresh me, please? Sure. Page 114 of the April deposition. Starting at the second-to-last question, and going on to the second line of page 115, and let me know what you're done. Thank you. [01:05:52] Speaker ?: Got it. [01:05:53] Speaker 1: Do you recall what you testified to her deposition? Yes, sir. And that was, you know, had it drawn up because she said she was going to sign it, right? I mean, we had agreed to it. I'm not asking what you agreed to. I'm asking to testify to deposition. Right. Had it drawn up because she said she would sign it, right? [01:06:11] Rick: I mean, I feel like I just gave you my answer to Mr. Wally. That's what we agreed to. [01:06:16] Speaker 1: I'm not asking what you agreed to. I'm asking what you said at your deposition. You testified. Why would I have this all drawn up if she wasn't going to sign? [01:06:25] Speaker 3: What page are you on? [01:06:27] Speaker 1: The bottom of page 114 on the top of page 115. The question was, so she was going to sign it? Answer. I mean, why would I have all this drawn up if she wasn't going to sign? Question. She was going to sign it? Answer. I wouldn't have went this far. What was your testimony of deposition? Yes, sir. It was. You mentioned you see this like a contract negotiation, right? [01:06:57] Rick: As far as the agreement, but not the relationship. [01:07:01] Speaker 1: That's completely fair, right? Post-nuptial agreement is a type of contract, but very different between husband and wife as the player and team, right? [01:07:11] Speaker ?: There ain't no marriage back in the day. It was a business. I don't know what that means. [01:07:18] Speaker 1: You read this, the $1 damages provision, when it was written, right? Okay, Your Honor. Thank you. [01:07:33] Speaker ?: Thank you, Your Honor. [01:07:33] Speaker 1: Thank you, Your Honor. This was not. [01:07:35] Speaker ?: Can we approach, Your Honor? [01:07:35] Speaker 1: Yes, please. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Your Honor. [01:07:39] Speaker 3: Thank you, Your Honor. This was not. [01:07:41] Speaker ?: Can we approach, Your Honor? [01:07:42] Speaker 3: Yes, please. Thank you. Thank you. [01:07:45] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:13:44] Speaker 3: I'm going to send you off for just a few minutes before the stress break while we continue this conversation so you're not going to listen to all that noise. All right. [01:14:14] Speaker ?: All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:15:00] Speaker 3: I think the media should cover the trial, but not the discussion about things that may be excluded from. Thank you. [01:15:09] Speaker ?: Thank you. [01:15:09] Speaker 3: Thank you. [01:15:10] Speaker ?: Thank you. [01:15:11] Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. [01:15:13] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:15:15] Speaker 3: Thank you. [01:15:16] Speaker ?: Thank you. [01:15:16] Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:15:19] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:15:53] Speaker 1: aware of this one dollar provision in the post note? I wasn't aware of it until my wife brought it to my attention. So you were aware of it then? Yes sir. So you read that provision at some point? No I did not. Some did you all know about my attorneys. But you talked about that one dollar provision with your wife right? [01:16:23] Rick: I didn't specifically talk a lot with her. Have you ever testified differently? I don't know but if you can refresh me that would be great. [01:16:37] Speaker 1: Page 118 of the April 4th deposition. Alright. [01:16:45] Speaker ?: Alright. [01:16:46] Speaker 1: 118. [01:16:53] Speaker ?: Sorry. Alright. [01:16:58] Speaker 3: Yeah. [01:16:59] Speaker ?: Give me one sec. I'll call now. Did you discuss the specific provision with your wife? The one dollar provision? Yeah. That was after the fact that she brought it to my attention sir. [01:17:46] Speaker 1: And it hurt you that she wouldn't sign that agreement right? Why would that hurt me then? Is it your testimony that it did not hurt you? I would say that it hurt that she didn't sign the agreement overall. Like we didn't. We didn't. It hurt me. [01:18:08] Rick: We didn't reach an agreement. Not that it hurt me that she didn't sign it for a dollar. That post-nuptial agreement that you had. You really got many arguments over that right? Yes sir. And that agreement was the totality of your marital issues right? Yeah. Unfortunately. [01:18:24] Speaker 1: Yesterday, do you remember your attorney asking you some questions and giving some testimony about your wife stealing from you? Yes sir. You used that word a few times I think today too right? Yes sir. She never had access to your accounts right? She had access to the FC card. That's the family card? Yes sir. Her name was not on that account right? No sir. She just had a debit card? Yes sir. And she was allowed to use that card I think you said for things around the house and groceries? Yes sir. And you had discussed limits on the use of that card? I didn't discuss limits. It just came with a limit. You know what I'm saying? Set up by my financial advisor. [01:19:12] Rick: You know? Because we try to stay under our budget. You know what I'm saying? Each and every month. Wife, she gets her money every month. And there was a family card. There's a negative with a budget on it. And obviously, you know, I had my budget per month. When you say a family card, how many other people have a card that went to that family account? Just Keto had the card. Just Keto? Yes, she's the only person that had the card. And this is a debit account right? Yes sir. So she can't spend more money than is in the account right? Yes sir. [01:19:57] Speaker 1: This is not the first time you testified about the use of that debit card, right? Correct. You monitored her spending, right? I didn't monitor it. I didn't monitor it. Like I just said, my financial team, they put a budget inside of the family card situation. I didn't monitor it. Did you ever testify differently? Have you ever testified differently? I don't remember. Sure. You can go to page 108 of your April deposition. Same book, right? Yes. All right. That's right. Right at the top. Right. You were asked, did you monitor her spending? And you answered, I mean, after she hit that budget, yeah. That was your testimony of deposition? Right. And you did not describe it as stealing your deposition, right? No. It's like two different situations what you're talking about. I feel like you're just trying to put one into that one. [01:21:13] Rick: If I'm trying to be on the same page as you. I'm trying to understand your testimony. Your testimony yesterday was that she had one card, right? Right. I mean, one family card. And obviously she had her own personal accounts too. But in terms of her access to your money, it was that one family card, right? Correct. [01:21:35] Speaker 1: And in your deposition about that one family card, you never said she was stealing, right? I would say she was stealing from that because I gave it to her. I agree with that. I agree with that. Now, whatever she did with the family card, that was not something you ever resented or complained about, right? [01:22:05] Rick: I only had things to say to wifey whenever she obviously overspent or she just is going to buy, you know, Chanel bags with the family card. You know what I'm saying? And it's clearly like stuff needed to be done around the house. [01:22:25] Speaker 1: So is the stealing you're referring to when she would use the family card money for something like a bag? [01:22:33] Rick: I would say the stealing would be like small things outside of my jobs and earn cash, you know? And I would have like cash laying around, like a lot of cash. And I would come home and it would be missing. And I would ask her, I would say, hey, babe, like, where's all this cash? Like, you're getting all this money already. Like, why do you need all this cash? So I have, I mean, I have so many questions that I rarely got answers to and it's like, oh well. [01:23:06] Speaker 1: Do you recall your counsel asking about what you meant by stealing money yesterday, right? Correct. And you were asked when you say stealing money, did you have joint accounts? You answered no, never had a joint account, right? Right. Did you ever give her access to your account? Answered no, I never gave her access, but I did have a family card that I gave her access to. Right. You were asked, you were referring to her utilizing that family card and answered yes, right? Right. So that was your testimony yesterday about stealing, right? [01:23:35] Rick: I mean, I just told you exactly what the difference was. And then also, too, after the divorce, too, though, like after the petition was filed, like, there was money being removed out of the account. Now, you can consider that stealing, because at that point we divorced. [01:23:59] Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we're talking about that one family account, right? [01:24:02] Rick: Nah, I mean, I just gave you a situation of stealing you were talking about on the card. From the family account, right? Yeah, she stole from that account, like, 30K. Okay. [01:24:12] Speaker 1: We talked a little earlier about some of the beliefs that you got based on how you were raised by your grandparents, right? Right. And you feel like a man has his role in the marriage and a woman has hers. Is this different? No. This is different. Doesn't sound different. Sounds the same. Let me ask the whole question. You want to come home, lay down in peace, eat some good food, play games, spend some time with you, and then, you know, we call it at night, we wake up, and we do the same thing over again. And that's your vision of a marriage, right? Sounds pretty good. And you testified to that in one of your depositions, right? Yes, sir. So, in that list of priorities you gave in the deposition, spend time with my wife is number four after five after play games. [01:24:59] Speaker 3: No. It doesn't sound all of it. And it sounds like it's going to cover. [01:25:08] Speaker 1: You described yourself yesterday as traditional? Yes, sir. Old school man are the ones that you used? Old school, yes, sir. You said you want to get off the elevator, see the kitchen, you want to see my wife making us dinner, and our daughter saying, "Daddy, Daddy." [01:25:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to object to this is a help. Ask and answer if the elevator's covered. I sustain the interest. I'm covering things in general, and then you have to go to some specific incidents, and we've done that. [01:25:36] Speaker 1: You described your dream girl as a church-going, flower-picking wife. Do you remember that? I object to relevance. [01:25:42] Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's relevance, but we just haven't heard this question. We haven't heard this question. [01:25:45] Speaker ?: Okay. [01:25:45] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. [01:25:46] Speaker ?: What does that mean, flower-picking? [01:25:46] Speaker 3: I don't know, man. I come from South Georgia, man. I went to church with about two other people, and that's what I envisioned for my life, and that's what I've seen you as. She was a small-time girl. She's beautiful. You saw her as a girl who was not selling OnlyFans. She's going to church. She's with her mom every day picking flowers. That's how you described her, right? [01:25:51] Speaker ?: No. [01:25:52] Rick: No. Ask an answer. [01:25:54] Speaker 1: No, no. [01:25:55] Speaker ?: Ask an answer. Okay. [01:25:55] Speaker 1: Ask an answer. [01:25:56] Rick: That was ask an answer. Okay. [01:25:58] Speaker ?: That was ask an answer. [01:25:58] Rick: We don't really know how to move this to the world because we have no idea how to move this to the world because we have no idea how to move this to the world because we have no idea how to move this to the world. You can give me some leeway to this is my direct examination, Your Honor, if I just have some leeway to ask two more questions here. [01:26:07] Speaker ?: Hello, Your Honor. [01:26:07] Rick: It's not as direct as a person. You know, it's not as direct as a person. You know, it's not as direct as a person. You know, it's not as direct as a person. [01:26:11] Speaker 1: You know, it's not as direct as a person. You know, it's not as direct as a person. You know, it's not as direct as a person. You know, it's not as direct as a person. You know, and that's what I've seen you as. You know, and that's what I've seen you as. She was a small-time girl. She was beautiful. [01:26:19] Speaker ?: You saw her as a girl who was not selling OnlyFans. [01:26:20] Speaker 3: She's going to church. Asked an answer. Okay. That was asked an answer. [01:26:25] Speaker 1: We don't really know how to move this because we have no idea what you're talking about. You can give me some leeway to this is my direct examination, Your Honor, if I just have some leeway to ask two more questions here. [01:26:34] Speaker 3: Well, Your Honor, it's not as direct examination. I believe it's cross-examination. Well, that's irrelevant to the point that we don't know what the point is. So I really can't move on relevance. All right. [01:26:46] Speaker 1: You described Keita that way in a deposition, right, at one point? Yeah, at one point. Okay. And then in the deposition, in this case, you described her very differently, right? If you can refresh my memory. Sure. Page 229 of the April deposition. [01:27:01] Rick: 229. Sorry. [01:27:03] Speaker ?: Thank you. Okay, I got it. [01:27:42] Speaker 1: Okay, so you testified in this case, this is after the divorce had been filed, she didn't want to be that church-going flower-picking wife that you dreamed of, right? Right. But during the marriage, in a different deposition in 2024, you described that she was that woman, [01:28:09] Rick: right? You know, with my life, right? I'm just blind to it all, man. I'm blind to a lot of things. You know? I've seen her as that far-picking church girl, man. [01:28:28] Speaker ?: She was beautiful like that. [01:28:28] Rick: She was ambitious like that. And that's what I've seen, man. But the more time that I've had to like sit back and really think. It's like, sorry, it's not it. [01:28:41] Speaker 1: Okay, I understand that. I'm just asking if you described her in a deposition during the marriage, specifically on December 3rd, 2024, as a church-going girl who likes to pick flowers with her mom. That's my question. Yesterday, you blamed your wife for having a down season in 2024. You remember that testimony? Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. You said, if you look at my career before, and if you look at my career when I got married, it was like trending down. Those were your exact words? Yes, sir. We're talking about the 2024 Dolphins season? Right. You were 89 that year? Yeah. Missed the playoffs? Yeah. The year before in 2023, how many yards did you have? Do you remember? I can't even remember, bro. It was a lot, right? It was almost 1,800 yards? I don't know. I can't remember. Well, do you remember that you did not crack 1,000 yards in the 2024 season? [01:29:37] Speaker ?: Oh, yeah. [01:29:38] Rick: I remember that. [01:29:40] Speaker 1: You were traditionally over 1,000 yards every year, right, at that point? [01:29:45] Rick: I don't keep up with any of that stuff, man. I just go to work. [01:29:49] Speaker 1: Okay. Well, your wife was not calling the plays for the 2024 Dolphins, right? [01:29:54] Rick: No, she wasn't calling them for it. No, she wasn't calling the plays on the field, but at home she was calling the plays. That's the most important factor, man. That's where it starts at, at home. If you've got a really good support system at home, like, a lot of people know that in football, that, like, essentially that's important. And that was another reason why I wanted to marry my wife, because I needed that support from her. And I just felt like I just never got that, you know? [01:30:28] Speaker ?: Never. And that hurt. A lot. [01:30:31] Speaker 1: Didn't you testify yesterday you had a really great relationship when your lawyer asked how your relationship was? I don't recall. And is it your testimony that if Keita had been a better wife, you would have had a much better year? [01:30:48] Rick: I'm not blaming, I'm not blaming, I'm not sitting up there pointing the finger at wifey for that, bro. Because I take a lot of accountability in it also. It's my job and my duty to be the best player I can be each and every day. I agree with that. [01:31:03] Speaker 1: So we're clear you're not blaming your wife for your performance in 2024, right? [01:31:14] Speaker ?: I'm not. [01:31:17] Speaker 1: Okay. Well, yesterday you did blame your wife for your mom becoming homeless. Do you remember that? [01:31:24] Speaker ?: I am. [01:31:27] Speaker 1: Now, just to back up so we all remember, you had a home in Southwest, but still own a home in Southwest branches, right? Right. That house unfortunately burned down. [01:31:37] Rick: Yeah, unfortunately it burned down, man. And to give you a little back story, me and wifey, we would have arguments over that all the time. Like, she wanted me to buy new property, which was insane. I was like, this house is beautiful, you know? Like, you're coming into a beautiful home. But she insisted that we buy new property and unfortunately, the home burned down. [01:31:56] Speaker 3: I don't know if I could just have the witness instructive. I'm almost done. Sorry. Mr. Hill, just trying to focus on the answer. [01:32:03] Speaker ?: Yes, sir. [01:32:05] Speaker 1: And that house burned down in very early January of 2024? [01:32:11] Speaker ?: Man, you know what? I don't know. [01:32:14] Rick: You have to refresh me. Sure. Maybe November. [01:32:25] Speaker 1: I'm looking at a news article and publish it in time of restaurant memory on the day. [01:32:29] Speaker ?: Sure. [01:32:29] Speaker 1: Yes, sir. I don't know. [01:32:31] Speaker ?: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. [01:32:34] Speaker 3: I don't know. [01:32:35] Speaker ?: I don't know. [01:32:35] Speaker 3: I don't know. [01:32:46] Speaker ?: Hmm. You were on legal stipulate as to the date. [01:32:56] Rick: Yeah, I don't think that's the correct date that the house burned down, sir. [01:33:01] Speaker ?: Okay. [01:33:02] Rick: I think it's just when the article was released. So what you testified to yesterday is the house and your mom had been looking at that house, [01:33:09] Speaker 1: right? [01:33:10] Speaker ?: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And you were going to help your mom get somewhere to stay, but my wife, she like denied that. [01:33:18] Speaker 1: That's what your testimony was. Correct. He didn't want that. [01:33:21] Speaker ?: It was your testimony. [01:33:21] Speaker 1: And she was like, why are you buying your mom a house? She's a grown woman. Right? That's right. You just said, I'll listen to my wife and let it go. That's what you told the jury yesterday? Yes, sir. Yes, I did. Now, at this point in January of 2024, you're a receiver for the Miami Dolphins. Right. You didn't have to buy your mom a place, right? What do you mean? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? [01:33:58] Speaker ?: You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? [01:34:03] Speaker 1: You could have rented somewhere for her, right? [01:34:04] Speaker ?: You could have rented somewhere for her, right? [01:34:04] Speaker 1: You could have rented somewhere for her, right? [01:34:05] Rick: You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? You could have rented somewhere for her, right? I did. When I say homeless, that's what I mean. No home. I'm sorry. I need to clear up my words. I'm sorry about that. [01:34:16] Speaker ?: You're homeless, I imagine, out on the street. [01:34:17] Speaker 1: So when you said homeless the other day, you mentioned she literally did not have a home. She was in a hotel? Yeah. Okay. Glad you cleared that up. [01:34:30] Rick: Sorry about that, Mr. Wendy. [01:34:32] Speaker 1: You did not need your wife's permission to buy a house or do anything with your money, right? [01:34:37] Rick: I mean, at the end of the day, if she's my teammate, I think it's good for me to communicate with my wife and tell her exactly what's going on. There's no need for me to be making one final decision. I bring it to her attention, and if we're on the same accord about it, then we move forward with it. [01:34:54] Speaker 1: You told her you were getting your mom on a hotel? [01:34:57] Rick: No, I didn't. I just went behind her back with that one because, obviously, she didn't agree with me after my mom. [01:35:06] Speaker 1: Now, you bought a house in Miramar in February 2025, right? Right. That was during your marriage, right? Right. And that house in Miramar was not for your mom, right? No, sir. Who was that house for? And without saying if there was a child in the house, don't say the name, who was that house for? [01:35:26] Rick: It wasn't for anyone. [01:35:28] Speaker ?: Okay. [01:35:29] Speaker 1: But you don't dispute that you own a house in Miramar or you bought it in February 2025? Yeah. [01:35:36] Rick: I'm not disputing that. [01:35:38] Speaker 1: And does someone live there right now? [01:35:40] Rick: No. Nobody lives there. [01:35:42] Speaker 1: Has anyone ever lived there? Nobody's never lived there. You just bought a house to have a house that nobody lives in? [01:35:46] Rick: I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do with it. [01:35:49] Speaker ?: No. [01:35:50] Speaker 1: Do you remember what the purchase price for that house was? [01:35:53] Speaker 3: Yes. I know. I know. [01:35:56] Speaker 1: It's this thing. So you understand you let the jury with the impression yesterday that your mom was out on the street because your wife didn't want you to buy her a house? That was her. [01:36:10] Speaker ?: That's her. [01:36:10] Speaker 1: That's her. That's her. [01:36:12] Speaker ?: That's her. Yeah. Let's talk about the house of fire. [01:36:16] Speaker 1: Do you recall being asked in your divorce deposition about the house of fire? Do you recall being asked in your divorce deposition about this house in your mark? No. [01:36:49] Speaker 3: No. I'm still objective. No. Robert Rowans. [01:36:53] Speaker ?: Sustain. [01:36:54] Speaker 3: My honor, can you come sideways? I can put this in the proper. My honor, sustain me. My honor, sustain me. [01:37:16] Speaker 1: So the house that burned down in Southwest Ranches, regardless of the date, you said yesterday and I think suggested again today that your arguments with Kida had something to do with that in your view? [01:37:29] Speaker ?: Yeah. [01:37:30] Speaker 1: It's all opinion based, right? [01:37:33] Speaker ?: I don't know. [01:37:34] Speaker 1: You're the one telling us. Right. So you suggested that the arguments with Kida had something to do with the house burning down, right? I mean, that's what I think. And you think that because you testified yesterday, you would come home after practice and she would say we need to buy a new house, right? Yes. Now, again, you were a receiver for the Dolphins at this time, right? Yes, sir. You were not working with the DV Fire Department. No. I don't think so, no. I don't think so either. But there was a fire department investigation of what actually caused that fire, right? Correct. And they concluded it was a child playing with a lighter in the house, right? I mean, that's what they concluded, but I mean, I know my family, you know? I understand. I'm just asking what the investigation included, right? Yes, sir. I understand you may disagree with it, but they concluded it was an accident, right? [01:38:29] Rick: Yeah, but just like I said, I truly understand my family, you know? And nobody in our house, you know, dealt with matches. So I'm like, man, I mean, you pick your own conclusion from that one. And then, trust me, and plus I know my nephews, too, though. I have really good, responsible nephews, because my mom, she does a great job with them. [01:38:56] Speaker 1: Okay, so let's just put it out there. Do you think your wife has something to do with the house right now? Yeah, man, look, it's not my decision to make it. It's just my opinion. Well, you did receive a settlement check from insurance for that house damage, right? [01:39:09] Speaker 3: Object, there aren't a relevance. [01:39:12] Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know the relevance of that. If you took a check, it was because it was an accident and not intentional. [01:39:20] Speaker 3: How do you know how we can make it more connections? I don't know that it's particularly relevant, but more particularly just damaging to editing. [01:39:32] Speaker 1: You got a settlement check from insurance for the damage to the house, right? I mean, I had to get my house fees, right? Yeah, you had an insurance policy on the house, right? I had to get my house fees. Well, you had an insurance policy to cover that type of thing, right? [01:39:46] Rick: Right, and I wasn't home at the time, so I don't know what's going on. [01:39:49] Speaker 1: But that insurance policy wouldn't cover someone intentionally setting your house on fire, right? [01:39:54] Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm going to check. I'm going to check. I think the answer is the question. [01:39:59] Speaker 1: You also said your cat didn't make it out of the house, right? [01:40:03] Rick: Yeah, I don't. Unfortunately, I don't think Larry made it because I didn't see him. I don't think Larry. [01:40:11] Speaker 1: So you're saying Larry died in the fire? I have no idea. You understand your testimony yesterday. You said your cat didn't make it out of the house fire. Do you remember saying that? [01:40:21] Speaker ?: I don't know. [01:40:22] Rick: I don't remember, but I just know after that, I didn't see my cat no more. [01:40:26] Speaker 1: So you don't know whether the cat died in the fire or not, right? [01:40:29] Speaker 3: Well, I'm just, I believe this has been asked. Lance is not sure the relevance. [01:40:35] Speaker 1: Who's Drew Rosenhaus? [01:40:37] Rick: Somebody of mine, a friend of mine. He's your agent, right? [01:40:42] Speaker ?: I mean, I like to think he's the other way around. Yeah. Yes, sir. Agent. Friend and an agent, right? [01:40:48] Speaker 1: Yes, sir. A lot of his clients describe him like a family member or a very close friend, right? Yeah. Yes, sir. And Drew actually came out to your house to see you and your family and make sure everything was okay, right? Do you remember that? Him coming to Southwest Ranches house? I don't remember. [01:41:03] Rick: I was more focused on making sure that my family was okay. I don't know all the people that showed up and was trying to make sure that we was all right. I had to make sure everybody else was all right. [01:41:16] Speaker 1: Do you remember Drew coming out to see you? I don't remember. Okay. But Drew is your agent. He speaks for you in a statement on your behalf, right? I wouldn't say that. He never made statements on your behalf? You know, he's a wild card. He never knew what Drew was going to do. Do you recall Drew saying that no pets were harmed? No what? That no pets were harmed in the fire. It's a statement. It's not my cat bird. [01:41:48] Speaker ?: It's a moment to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I see you need to take a break for the other side. I can't hear you. Just yet, sir. It's not. You okay? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [01:43:16] Speaker 1: Do you recall this morning your counsel, Ms. Wright, asking you this question? In your opinion as a professional athlete of your size and strength, would you suppose that if you placed your hand and mouth around a person of her size, would you expect that person to not have any physical signs of injury? I do. And your answer was, they would have some kind of signs of something. At the end of the day, I feel like I personally experienced something like that on my end and I don't want to be around that. Do you remember getting that testimony? [01:43:52] Rick: Yes, sir. [01:43:53] Speaker 1: Who was that personal experience with? [01:43:56] Rick: Well, it's on the field all the time. [01:44:00] Speaker 1: A personal experience with physical signs of injury to someone much smaller than you? No, I'm just saying. [01:44:06] Rick: I'm saying with me on the field. You said who was that experience with? I was talking about with me. [01:44:10] Speaker 1: Your answer in response to your counsel's question about physical signs of injury on someone much smaller than you, your testimony is that was about another pro football player? [01:44:21] Rick: No, could you go into the second part of the answer that I said, or could you continue reading? [01:44:31] Speaker 1: Read the whole answer again. They would have some kind of signs of something. At the end of the day, I feel like I have personal experience with that on my end and I don't want to be around that certain person. You know what I'm saying. I might be getting off topic or something like that, but it's like for her to say that and then to show another side when it's me and her, it hurts me a lot. [01:44:55] Rick: Oh, that's what I mean, Mr. Whaley. I've had that experience myself on the football field. [01:45:10] Speaker 1: So, you've apologized to me a few times and we've had some miscommunications today, right? Yes, sir. After everything that you've seen and everything you testified about and everything that your wife has testified about, do you want to take this opportunity in front of the jury and everyone to apologize to your wife for everything that's a pleasure, Drew? [01:45:31] Speaker 3: That's not a question of cross examinations or cross examinations regarding evidence. Nothing else. Okay, thank you. All right, Mr. Hill, just step down. Before you go, just do it for a few minutes. Oh, sorry. You may step down to the jury stay. Do you want to have other witnesses? [01:45:52] Speaker 1: Yes, your honor. One witness is that will require the court's discussion with your honor. [01:45:57] Speaker 3: Okay. In that case, please step outside. I'll discuss the case. All right.