Trump says he will NEVER FORGIVE some of his ENEMIES — RISING

[0:04] I found them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people, very bad for our country. [0:09] I love our country far more than I can love people and people like that. [0:13] President Trump sat down with CBS's Ross Douthat for an interview with 60 Minutes, [0:18] his first interview since the Republicans lost control of Congress in the midterms. [0:22] Douthat brought up how Trump has repeatedly declared a hatred for his political opponents [0:26] and then asked the president if he thought he would ever be able to forgive them. [0:31] Now Trump insisted that he doesn't think he will ever stop hating some of his adversaries. [0:35] Here was more of that exchange. [0:38] The most charmed and remarkable life of any American in my entire lifetime. [0:44] And you are telling me you couldn't find it in your heart to forgive some of your enemies? [0:48] Such an easy answer. All I have to do is say, yes, I can. [0:51] Again, I don't think it's an easy answer. That's why I asked you. [0:53] Can I be honest? I probably cannot do that now because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will. [0:59] Douthat also pressed Trump about his wealth, citing a Forbes article claiming that his net worth has [1:04] gone up by $3 billion since he retook the Oval Office. Here was his response. [1:09] I devote almost no time to my net worth. I don't care. I have a lot of money and far more than I [1:15] ever thought I'd have. And I guess it's gone up. I don't even know. I have a son who's a very straight, [1:23] good guy. He watches over money. I don't even talk to him about it. [1:28] So I watched this entire interview last night and I have to say this was the best interview of [1:37] Donald Trump I have ever seen. So all credit to Ross Douthat, who I already think is like the most [1:44] amazing journalist ever. So good as a New York Times columnist. You remember he recently moved [1:49] from New York Times to CBS, Free Press. And he is so good as a writer, but he is proving that he is also [1:56] so good as an interviewer. He, if you watch this, you would have been impressed too. He actually, [2:02] he cuts off Trump a lot. He commands the room, which is something that people struggle to do [2:09] with Trump. Like he kept him on task. He asked him some tough questions. Those, maybe those exchanges [2:17] were the ones that got the most attention because it was, Ross is a very devoutly Catholic religious [2:23] person. So that's why he was asking about, you know, what you think. And then Trump was saying [2:27] that, no, I really think I can't forget those people. I hate them. It was interesting. They [2:32] also, they talked, they touched on everything. They talked about Russia, Ukraine. They talked about [2:37] immigration. They talked about changing the cabinet. They talked about, he said he agreed with J.D. Vance, [2:43] that the war was probably the reason that they lost. And that, but, but he said, that doesn't [2:49] mean I would do it any differently. He said, I think it's important to stop Iran from having a [2:53] nuclear weapon. And I don't want to be remembered for having allowed that to happen under my presidency. [2:57] So I still stand by doing it, but he agrees that that's what cost them. Fascinating, fascinating [3:04] interview. Yeah. I thought that the response- Good job, Ross. What else can I say? [3:10] Remember we saw the president, um, at Charlie Kirk's funeral or his celebration? [3:16] Yeah. That's what, that's what Ross- That's what they were referring to. And so [3:19] I think that that statement, especially the people in a large, maybe not a large swath, [3:23] but a good amount of people that support the Republican Party are more religious, [3:27] they're called the religious right, would look at the president and stand by a lot of the things [3:31] that he does, knowing that he's not in line morally with a lot of things that they feel. Ross [3:36] doubt that it would be one of those people because he writes about his religion often as well. [3:40] So I just don't understand how you make whole with the idea that he truly hates people and says he [3:47] wants to persecute his political enemies and suggest that at funerals, but then actively does things to [3:53] make their lives harder by using things like the FCC or the DOJ to attack said people that he really [4:00] can't stand. And then you still support those policies from a Republican president. I mean, [4:04] it's a nuanced conversation when you realize that the intent is that there's just hatred there. [4:09] That would be problematic for anybody who argues the religious morality part of why they're [4:13] supporting the president. I mean, if I'm being on Trump, and Trump says in this interview, [4:18] because Ross is talking about, you know, what happens to you when you die? [4:21] And, and Trump says something like, well, you know, I'm, I'm a religious individual, [4:26] but I don't actually believe that Trump thinks hell is real. Like, I don't think that. So that's what, [4:32] so then if it's not why, I don't know why he would have to, obviously, if you're facing eternal [4:36] damnation and hellfire for his behavior, you're going to know because you can't let go of your [4:43] hate, then you would let go of your hate. But I don't think he thinks those things are real. [4:47] I also thought that when he asked him about making so much money, it's just really tough. [4:52] And it's not to say that there isn't a possible way that the president could separate himself from [4:56] his business ventures. But it's really tough for me to just accept at face value, the president says [5:01] he has no idea about the money that he's making and not overseeing it, when he directly makes [5:06] decisions, like pardoning a cryptocurrency mastermind, who also helped him with his coin. [5:13] That came up. Yeah, that came up. [5:14] Yeah, with his coin and helped him enrich himself specifically, because I read into this, [5:17] because I wanted to understand exactly what the relationship might be from the person [5:20] the president says he doesn't know, this cryptocurrency head, helped him with basically all the software [5:26] and tools you need to have a successful cryptocurrency running behind the scenes. [5:29] He gifted him that. So there's no money exchange. He didn't pay for a pardon. But he gifted him [5:34] all the tools you need to be successful in an industry you don't know anything about. [5:38] And then the next thing you know, the man was pardoned. [5:40] These are things that are considered violations of the law. [5:43] What Trump said is that he does not manage his finances whatsoever. That's on the sons. [5:50] And so he has no idea. [5:52] If the sons are arguing, I'll push for a pardon from my dad. He doesn't know. [5:56] I mean, these are nefarious things. These are nefarious things. [5:59] Yeah. I mean, I find that topic less interesting than you do or other people do. [6:06] The Russia-Ukraine, which I pay a lot of attention to, was interesting because [6:11] Trump said he wants to end the war. And Douthat said, you've said that for a long time. [6:15] And he says, well, the two sides really hate each other. And Ross did say, well, isn't it fair for [6:22] one side to hate the other side a little bit more because their country got invaded? [6:26] And Trump said that he didn't want to share his personal feelings about that. But he's talking [6:33] to both of them and he really hopes to get a deal. He also said, well, let's look at what we got. [6:39] Okay. So when talking about the midterm results, Trump seemed to express some regret over his [6:43] strict deportation policies, which he feels may have also played a part in people voting for [6:48] Democrats. He also said that he'd be open to working on new policies with Democrats in Congress. [6:53] He said, quote, when you go into a hotel and you have a woman that's worked there as a maid, [6:58] as a cleaner, as a waitress, a lot of good things. And all of a sudden they're being taken out of the [7:01] country. It's tough. It's a tough thing. [7:03] Yeah. So that was a very interesting part. He spoke about- [7:08] He just promoted Stephen Miller. It makes no sense. The policy makes no sense with the statement. [7:12] Stephen Miller, you're right, is one of the administration figures who would most strongly [7:16] disagree with that. What Trump was saying on immigration, I found perfectly reasonable. I [7:21] think most people find perfectly reasonable. He was saying, we got to have border security. [7:25] We got to deport the violent people. But he said, I mean, it's remarkable to listen to him say that. [7:30] He said, you know, if your only infraction is that you can't be here illegally in the first place, [7:36] and you work, and you're paying taxes, and you're not causing anyone harm. In fact, [7:40] you're causing people a lot of good. You know, I think I'd rather have you stay or work something [7:45] out, which is what I've been saying, and you've been saying, and everyone has been saying for so [7:49] long. We just have a deal that those people can stay and they continue to contribute because that [7:55] infects prices too. I know, but Robby, you care more about policy than you do about chatting. [7:59] The president is implementing something totally different than what he's saying. So this is a [8:02] great interview, because he's just saying things. But I'm watching the policies that have played out, [8:06] like Operation Metro Surge, and I'm watching the significant number of people that have been [8:11] affected by this immigration policy that are not criminals, the criminals that he described. [8:15] And it's Stephen Miller's policy. [8:16] Yeah. And he promoted the man. So what I'm seeing is something that is totally just, [8:21] he said what was good to Ross Douthat, because you know that that would make him look like a, [8:25] maybe a level-headed guy. Maybe he really believes that, and then just takes the advice [8:28] of his chief of staff more than what he believes. But either way, people are still concerned because [8:32] the policy does not match what he's stating right there. [8:35] Well, I don't know. James Tallarico said that he would love to work with the president on something [8:40] exactly along the lines of what Trump just described on TV. [8:42] And Democrats tried to work with Republicans prior to President Trump becoming president. And from [8:48] what it was reported, he told people he wanted to win the election, so please do not support any [8:53] immigration reform policy prior to him winning the election. And so Republicans obeyed. [8:57] Okay, but he was right that all it took to fix the border was Trump being president. [9:01] No, they were working on policy. [9:02] They decided to do that, and then we'll work out. So, well, look, I hope an immigration deal can be had. [9:08] So do I. I like what Trump said to say about it. I like what James Tallarico had to say about it. [9:14] Let's work on it. And that would be great for the country. [9:17] All right. Well, Trump has appointed Stephen Miller to replace Susie Wiles as [9:20] the White House chief of staff. I'm gonna get into that next in my lens. Stay tuned.