‘The Five’: Newsom says Trump admin’s fraud focus is ‘pure politics’

[0:00] I HAVE A FALSE START AND GREG [0:03] THINKS IT'S FUNNY. [0:04] COULD FRAWD BE THE BIGGEST [0:06] THREAT TO SOME OF THE DEMOCRATS [0:08] 2028 HOPEFULS? [0:08] YOU GOT HHS SECRETARY, RFK [0:10] JR. [0:11] PAUSING A BILLION DOLLARS IN [0:13] MEDICAID PAYMENTS TO CALIFORNIA [0:15] AND MINNESOTA OVER SUSPECTED [0:17] FRAWD AND NONCOMPLIANCE SAYING [0:19] THEY NEED TO PROVIDE [0:20] DOCUMENTATION THAT THESE [0:21] PAYMENTS ARE LEGITIMATE. [0:22] NOW, THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR, [0:24] HIS NAME GOES BY GAVIN NEWSOM, [0:26] IS REJECTING THOSE FRAWD [0:27] ALLEGATIONS, ARGUING HIS STATE [0:30] PAYMENTS, AND HE IS NOT [0:32] DEMOCRATS. [0:32] HE IS NOT A TAXPAYER'S MONEY [0:34] BY KEEPING SENIORS AND PEOPLE [0:36] WITH DISABILITIES OUT OF FAR [0:38] MORE EXPENSIVE NURSING HOMES. [0:39] REALLY? [0:40] AND SHOCKER, HE IS BLAMING [0:43] PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR WANTING TO [0:44] STOP WASTE AND ABUSE. [0:45] I'M A TAXPAYER. [0:46] I DON'T LIKE WASTE. [0:47] NONE OF US LIKES WASTE. [0:48] FRAUD. [0:49] COME ON. [0:49] THE FRAUD IS THE TRUMP [0:51] ADMINISTRATION. [0:51] TALK TO ME ABOUT WASTE. [0:53] TALK ABOUT FRAUD. [0:55] TALK ABOUT ABUSE. [0:58] LOOK IN THE MIRROR, MR. [0:59] PRESIDENT. [1:00] GOVERNOR NEWSOM MAY WANT TO [1:02] TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. [1:03] LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO GOVERNOR [1:04] WALTZ. [1:05] HE FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY. [1:07] HOW IGNORING FRAUD CAN MAKE [1:09] YOUR POLITICAL CAREER GOAL [1:10] BELLY UP. [1:11] WALTZ HAS SEEN HIS APPROVAL [1:13] RATING DROP. [1:14] 31 POINTS IN ONE WHOLE YEAR. [1:16] HE IS GETTING INVESTIGATED. [1:18] MONEY IS BEING WITH HELD BECAUSE [1:20] OF THE HORRIBLE WAY THEY RUN [1:22] THEIR STATES. [1:23] THE ONE THING WHERE THIS TIES [1:25] TO TODAY IS IF THE MONEY IS [1:27] GONE AND PROBLEMATIC IN [1:28] CALIFORNIA AND PROBLEMATIC IN [1:30] CALIFORNIA AS IT SEEMS TO BE. [1:31] HHA SECRETARY XAVIERA IS THE [1:33] ONE THAT IS TO BLAME PERHAPS AND [1:35] HE IS GOING TO BE PERHAPS THE [1:36] NEXT GOVERNOR. [1:37] FOR MORE ON THAT, LET'S GO TO [1:38] SHANNON. [1:39] OKAY. [1:40] WELL, THERE IS A MAN NAMED [1:41] STEVE HILTON. [1:42] ALSO IN THAT GUBERNATURAL RACE [1:43] WHO IS TRYING TO DUKE IT OUT [1:44] THERE IN CALIFORNIA. [1:45] RIGHT. [1:46] HERE'S THE THING. [1:47] ALL OF THESE FOLKS GOING [1:48] AROUND YELLING ABOUT THIS IS [1:49] FAKE FRAUD OR WHATEVER. [1:50] THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS AT THE [1:51] STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL IN [1:53] CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE UNCOVERED [1:54] PLENTY OF FRAWD AS WELL. [1:55] IT'S NOT JUST THE FEDS. [1:56] THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF PEOPLE [1:58] INDICTED, ARRESTED, SOME [1:59] CONVICTED IN PLACES LIKE [2:00] MINNESOTA, CALIFORNIA, WHERE [2:01] THIS IS GOING ON. [2:02] WE EXPECT OUR GOVERNMENT TO BE [2:04] COMPASSIONATE. [2:05] AND I THINK WE'RE THE MOST [2:06] CHARITABLE COMPASSIONATE COUNTRY [2:07] THERE IS. [2:08] BUT ALSO COMPETENT. [2:09] PEOPLE ARE MAD ABOUT HOW MUCH [2:10] THE GOVERNMENT SPENDS BUT ALSO [2:11] HOW THEY'RE SPENDING THE MONEY. [2:12] SO IF THEY'RE UNCOVERING ALL OF [2:14] THIS STUFF, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S [2:15] A GOOD LOOK TO BE OUT THERE MORE [2:18] OUTRAGED ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIONS [2:20] THAN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT [2:22] GETTING THEIR SERVICES AND THAT [2:23] THE MONEY, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE [2:24] IT'S GOING. [2:25] I DON'T THINK THAT MOST [2:26] AMERICANS OUT THERE, SOME OF [2:27] YOU WORKING TWO, THREE JOBS AT [2:28] A TIME, EXPECT THEIR MONEY TO GO [2:30] SO PEOPLE CAN BUY LUXURY CARS, [2:32] MILLION-DOLLAR NECKLACES. [2:33] AND WHEN THOSE CASES TURN UP, [2:35] PEOPLE ARE TICKED. [2:36] THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEIR [2:37] MONEY IS GOING. [2:38] I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD LUCK TO [2:39] BE ON THE SIDE OF NOT [2:40] INVESTIGATING. [2:41] I MEAN, WE'RE FINDING OUT, [2:42] JESSE. [2:43] THIS IS CMS OFFICIALS DOING [2:44] INVESTIGATING. [2:45] IT'S HHS. [2:46] THIS IS NOT TRUMP. [2:47] HE SAID, FIND THE FRAUD. [2:48] I'LL PUT A CZAR IN CHARGE. [2:49] THEY'RE FINDING A TON OF FRAUD [2:50] IN CALIFORNIA. [2:51] WHY DOESN'T GAVIN NEWSOM EVER GET [2:53] ON THE TRAIN? [2:54] HE GOES, LET'S FIND OUT MORE. [2:55] I HAD NO IDEA. [2:56] YEAH, SO GAVIN SAYS I'M ON IT, [2:59] AND THEN THEY ASK, WE'LL OPEN UP [3:01] THE BOOKS, AND THEN GAVIN'S IN [3:10] SOMEONE SETS UP THIS MEDICAL [3:12] SUPPLY COMPANY, RIGHT? [3:13] YOU SELL KNEE BRACES AND ROCKERS. [3:16] AND SO YOU BUILD THESE GHOST [3:19] CLIENTS. [3:21] AND THEN SO SHIRLEY GOES, KNOCKS [3:23] ON THE DOOR OF THE ADDRESS WHERE [3:24] THIS STUPID COMPANY IS SUPPOSED [3:25] TO BE LISTED AT, AND THERE'S NO [3:27] BUSINESS. [3:28] THERE'S NO WHEELCHAIRS. [3:30] IT'S JUST SOME RANDOM SPANISH [3:31] LADY. [3:32] AND SHE'S LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW. [3:34] AND SO INSTEAD OF SAYING THANK [3:36] YOU, NICK SHIRLEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE [3:38] ON IT, THEY PASS AN ANTI-NICK [3:40] SHIRLEY ACT. [3:41] SO HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT [3:43] TYPE OF JOURNALISM IN CALIFORNIA. [3:45] UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, [3:47] THEY WOULD EVEN FLAG THE FRAUD, [3:50] AND THEN THEY JUST GIVE THEM THE [3:52] MONEY ANYWAY, AND THEN TRY TO [3:54] CLAW IT BACK. [3:55] DID THEY CLAW IT BACK? [3:56] ABSOLUTELY NOT. [3:57] AND SO THE MONEY IS OUT THE [3:59] WINDOW, AND GAVIN'S LIKE, IT'S [4:01] NOT MY FAULT. [4:02] SO HIS NUMBERS WERE ALREADY GOING [4:04] DOWN. [4:05] GAVIN'S GETTING TROURCED IN [4:07] NEW HAMPSHIRE. [4:08] HE'S GETTING TROURCED IN SOUTH [4:09] CAROLINA. [4:10] AND I THINK HE'S NOT [4:14] GIVING HIM BY DOUBLE DIGITS NOW. [4:15] IT'S BECAUSE HE'S SQUEMISH AND [4:17] HE'S WISHY-WASHY AND HE'S VERY [4:19] EFFEMINATE. [4:20] AND HE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE HE [4:22] CARES THAT WE'RE LOSING THE [4:23] MONEY. [4:24] I DON'T HAVE HIM AS THE FAVORITE. [4:27] IT DOESN'T MEAN I CAN'T PUNCH [4:28] HIM. [4:29] I FEEL LIKE YOU TOLD US AT ONE [4:31] POINT, THOUGH, THAT YOU HAD A [4:33] CRUSH ON HIM OR SOMETHING. [4:34] CRUSH? [4:35] WHEN HIS BOOK CAME OUT. [4:36] I SAID HE WAS ALL RIGHT. [4:37] I MET HIM ONCE. [4:38] HE WAS COOL. [4:39] BUT, I MEAN, HE'S AN IDIOT. [4:40] RIGHT. [4:41] HE'S AN IDIOT. [4:42] HE'S AN IDIOT. [4:43] HE'S AN IDIOT. [4:44] HE'S AN IDIOT. [4:45] HE'S AN IDIOT. [4:46] DONALD TRUMP'S INVESTIGATING [4:47] ME. [4:48] THERE'S A REAL INVESTIGATION GOING [4:49] ON. [4:50] IT WAS HAPPENING IN THE PREVIOUS [4:51] ADMINISTRATION. [4:52] JESSICA, WHY NOT HAVE THE TWO [4:55] DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS EMBRACE [4:57] THIS FEDERAL FRAUD? [4:58] WELL, HE DID. [5:01] RewIND THE TAPE, NOT FAST FORWARD [5:03] BACK TO APRIL OF THIS YEAR. [5:05] THEY HAD A BIG PRESS CONFERENCE. [5:07] CALIFORNIA PROSECUTORS WORKED [5:09] FOR GAVIN NEWSOM. [5:10] HE'S AN IDIOT. [5:11] HE'S AN IDIOT. [5:12] HE'S AN IDIOT. [5:13] HE'S AN IDIOT. [5:14] HE'S AN IDIOT. [5:15] HE'S AN IDIOT. [5:16] JESSE SAYS, WELL, WHY DOESN'T [5:17] GAVIN DO THIS HIMSELF? [5:18] WHY DOESN'T HE OPEN UP THE [5:19] BOOKS? [5:20] WHY DOESN'T HE CARE ABOUT THE [5:21] FRAUD? [5:22] YOU HAVE THE 267 MILLION. [5:23] CALIFORNIA SUBMITTED A 60-PAGE [5:25] QUOTE-UNQUOTE INTEGRITY ACTION [5:26] PLAN IN FEBRUARY TO THE FEDERAL [5:27] GOVERNMENT HAS GOTTEN NO [5:28] RESPONSE. [5:29] THEY'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE [5:30] FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS GOTTEN NO [5:31] RESPONSE. [5:32] THAT'S NOT TRUE. [5:33] YES, IT IS TRUE. [5:34] DOCUMENT THE PAYMENTS ARE [5:37] LEGIT AND HE CAN'T DO IT. [5:39] HERE ARE THREE FACTS THAT YOU [5:42] CANNOT REFUTE. [5:43] THERE IS A GOOD NEWS STORIES THAT [5:45] DONALD TRUMP HAS EITHER COMMUTED [5:46] THE SENTENCES OF OR PARDONED [5:48] PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEFRAWDED AMERICAN [5:50] PEOPLE THROUGH THE MEDICARE AND [5:52] MEDICATE SYSTEM TO THE TUNE OF [5:53] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION [5:54] REPLICATED IT IN 2026. [5:55] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION EVEN [5:57] PRAISED NUSOM'S CRACKDOWN ON [5:58] EBT FRAUD. [5:59] THEY HAD AN 80% DROP. [6:00] THE UNDERSECRETARY PATRICK PENN [6:02] SAID IT'S ONE OF THOSE GOOD [6:04] NEWS STORIES WE WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:06] AND THEN THERE IS THE ELEPHANT IN [6:07] THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. [6:08] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:09] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:10] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:11] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:12] THEY HAVE PROMOTED PEOPLE WHO [6:14] HAVE DEFRAWDED AMERICAN PEOPLE [6:15] THROUGH THE MEDICARE AND [6:16] MEDICAID SYSTEM TO THE TUNE OF [6:17] ALMOST $2 BILLION. [6:18] SO THEY WANT US TO TAKE A [6:20] RFK JUNIOR SERIOUSLY OR DONALD [6:21] TRUMP WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT [6:22] FRAUD AND THEY ARE PARDONING [6:24] THE FRAUD STIRS THEMSELVES. [6:25] THAT REAKS TO ME. [6:26] THESE HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS [6:28] ARE UP 24% OVER THE LAST FEW [6:29] YEARS. [6:30] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:31] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:32] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:33] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:34] THEY WANT TO PROMOTE. [6:35] I'M CONSTANTLY AMAZED THAT [6:38] TIM WALTZ IS STILL GOVERNOR [6:40] BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO [6:43] LET HIM SAY I'M NOT RUNNING [6:45] AGAIN. [6:46] THAT'S JUST TOO EASY. [6:48] I REMEMBER THE ERA OF THE [6:51] SHAMED POLITICIAN, THE ONE WHO [6:53] RESIGNS BECAUSE OF THE AWFUL [6:54] THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. [6:55] IF THIS WERE JAPAN, YOU KNOW [6:57] WHAT HE WOULD DO. [6:58] HE WOULD MOVE TO CHINA. [7:00] IF YOU WANT TO PROMOTE THE [7:02] CORRUPTION, THEY WOULD SWOOP IN. [7:04] THEY WOULD HAVE A SEAT AT THE [7:06] TABLE. [7:07] THEY WOULD GET A CHANCE TO FIX [7:09] THINGS. [7:10] IF YOU EVER NOTICE THIS, EVEN [7:12] WHEN YOU GET RID OF THE [7:13] CORRUPTION, IT DOESN'T MATTER. [7:15] LOOK AT CHICAGO. [7:16] WE WERE LIKE, FINALLY, LORI [7:18] LIGHTFOOT IS OUT. [7:19] WHAT A SCAM. [7:20] WHO DO THEY BRING IN? [7:22] LORI LIGHTFOOT BUT LESS [7:24] MASCULINE, BRANDON JOHNSON. [7:26] IT DOESN'T MATTER. [7:28] THE GOAL HERE IS TO OVERWHELM YOU [7:30] WITH INCOMPETENCE, CORRUPTION, [7:31] AND BAD POLICIES. [7:32] SO YOU KIND OF JUST GET USED TO [7:34] IT. [7:35] IT'S LIKE, DOES ANYBODY CARE WHAT [7:36] BRANDON JOHNSON IS DOING ANYMORE? [7:37] AND I BRING HIM UP BECAUSE [7:38] WHATEVER, WHEN WALT GOES, WHAT'S [7:40] GOING TO BE PUT IN THAT PLACE? [7:41] WHEN? [7:42] AMY KUBUSHER. [7:44] EXACTLY. [7:45] AMAZING. [7:46] PLEASE. [7:47] AND THEN YOU HAVE GAVIN [7:49] NEWSOM, WHO I LIKE TO REFER TO AS [7:51] ELLIS FROM DIE HARD. [7:54] IF HE GOES AWAY, YOU GET THIS [7:56] OTHER GUY, VISCERA. [7:57] WHAT'S HIS NAME? [7:58] WHATEVER. [7:59] DO YOU THINK HE'S GOING TO BE ON [8:00] THE UP AND UP? [8:01] OF COURSE NOT. [8:02] YOU NEED SOMEBODY WHO BELIEVES [8:03] IN OVERSIGHT. [8:05] THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN [8:07] OVERSIGHT ARE REPUBLICANS, [8:08] WHICH IS WHY THESE INFRASTRUCTURES, [8:10] WHETHER IT'S THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS [8:12] OR HOMELESSNESS OR WHATEVER, [8:14] THEY DON'T LIKE REPUBLICANS [8:15] BECAUSE WE LIKE TO LOOK AT THE [8:16] NUMBERS. [8:17] RIGHT. [8:18] CHECK OUT THE FRAUD THAT'S GOING [8:20] ON IN OHIO AND PLEASE ANSWER FOR [8:22] THE PARDONS AND COMMUTATIONS OF [8:23] THESE FRAUDS. [8:24] AND THEY'RE COOPERATING IN OHIO. [8:25] THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE [8:27] BOTTOM OF IT IN OHIO BECAUSE [8:29] THEY WANT TO ROOT OUT FRAUD. [8:31] THEY'RE SUCH GOOD GUYS. [8:32] THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CARE [8:33] ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT. [8:38] THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO [8:40] GET TO THEM. [8:41] AND CATCH FULL SHOWS STREAMING [8:44] NOW ON FOX ONE.