About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of 'The Five': Let the 2028 smack talk begin! from Fox News, published July 20, 2026. The transcript contains 1,661 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"let the 2028 smack talk begin vp jd vance hopping on joe rogan's podcast and having a field day with greasy gavin's never-ending pandering gavin newsom did this speech a few months ago the president i think it's the funniest thing ever because he's like speaking to a group of black leaders and..."
[0:00] let the 2028 smack talk begin vp jd vance hopping on joe rogan's podcast and having a field day with
[0:08] greasy gavin's never-ending pandering gavin newsom did this speech a few months ago the
[0:14] president i think it's the funniest thing ever because he's like speaking to a group of black
[0:19] leaders and black businessmen but it's like an audience that is 95 black and they're asking him
[0:25] about his dyslexia and his struggle with education and he basically says yeah you know i'm not very
[0:30] smart like a lot of you and it's like i'm like you i can't even read meanwhile there's a ton of
[0:36] interviews where he's talking about all the books he reads like he's so full of yeah he's he's he's
[0:42] full of newsom claims he was being taken out of context saying he was talking about his dyslexia
[0:48] and wasn't insulting black voters meanwhile the democrats are having a hot socialist summer
[0:54] and vp vance is warning that if republicans don't turn the economy around for younger americans
[1:00] we could soon have a commie in the white house we don't make enough of our own stuff we don't have
[1:06] enough self-reliance our workers don't have enough bargaining power that has led in a lot of ways i
[1:12] think to this kind of socialism fervor it's going to take years to fix this problem and if we don't
[1:19] we are going to end up with a socialist president in this country and newsom may be proving jd's point
[1:26] knee pads is sounding commie curious at a conference this week listen certainly nostalgia
[1:32] is not working i would argue socialism not going to work but capitalism as we know it doesn't work
[1:38] either and so when we talk about rewriting or at least renegotiating this social contract and rewriting
[1:46] it as authors not consumers we have to fundamentally understand that it's broken and we cannot play in
[1:57] the margins any longer so kennedy we might be looking at what could be the 2028 presidential map
[2:06] matchup how do you think they're kind of jockeying for positions i think you're absolutely right i i think
[2:10] this is the matchup that people want i i think this is how i i know that kamala harris is pulling ahead
[2:17] of gavin newsom right now because he's had some pretty big stumbles he's a weird guy you know i'm
[2:21] watching that footage of him with his hands and i'm trying to think like where did he come up with
[2:26] this is he like a failed magician who stumbled into a cheeseball uh car salesman conference and it's
[2:33] just like using the triangle of power in order to get his point across and i know the clip that
[2:41] vice president vance was talking about because i actually use that my live show uh my enemies of freedom
[2:45] tour to point out what a dingbat this guy is because you know he looks like patrick bateman he's a total
[2:52] narcissist and now he's telling us that he is illiterate and you know he says in that clip like
[2:58] when he's trying to speak jive like i am you i'm just like you i got 960 on my sat oh you got 940 and
[3:07] it's like he was insulting the entire crowd and he's like you've never seen me read a speech because
[3:12] i cannot read a speech and it's like oh wow this is uh giving us the hard sell there gab but i do
[3:20] think um vice president vance going out there and he's he's promoting his book communion he's actually
[3:27] doing a good job of making himself into a real person and he is pretty funny yeah if he i was telling
[3:34] him that my daughter goes to college near where he's from and he said you know that's a party school
[3:40] right yeah he's got a good sense he joined us on the five he was even making jessica laugh harold the
[3:48] comment from him about capitalism isn't really working what was he trying to do there you're talking
[3:54] about gavin news well hey harold good to see you again good to be back i heard i also heard vice
[3:58] president vance uh make the point around he didn't say it as frontly as governor newsom did about
[4:05] capitalism but i think there is a realization that for some americans they can't figure out how to make
[4:10] it work right uh and i think one of the reasons that people feel like the american dream is more and
[4:14] more out of reach is because that reality is setting in i think for democrats um there's you know enough
[4:21] with with trying to relate to people by saying that you scored like they scored on an exam and i scored
[4:26] higher than that i might add but but i think in a lot of sort of a lot of people that being said
[4:31] this is going to be a contest of ideas and where i do agree with governor newsom is that we face a
[4:37] moment in america where not enough people are working not enough people seem to have the skills dana
[4:42] talks about it often when we we've got to figure out ways in which we introduce and educate and graduate
[4:48] a class of workers that uh whose jobs and whose opportunities will always be essential in this economy
[4:54] we've got to figure out how we not only continue to produce people who can be lawyers and bankers and
[4:58] technologists uh but people who can be good citizens and i think the more you hear democrats
[5:04] talking about that as opposed to talking about trump the only good thing about that clip we just showed
[5:08] on newsom he didn't mention trump's name uh he talked about the conditions he thinks people are
[5:13] living and if you do that you have a much better chance of not only being the nominee and if it's vice
[5:18] president vance who i thought was fairly impressive in an interview he said some things about
[5:22] uh jeffrey epson i didn't quite understand but the rest of the interview i listened to it i thought
[5:26] i thought he and joe rogan did a did a nice job well newsom had been talking about donald trump
[5:32] all the time and his numbers went down maybe he's recalibrating well yes because well and that would
[5:40] make him different from other democrats right so if he wants to figure out a way to find the lane
[5:45] and at least he's not talking about israel because that's what all the other democrats are talking
[5:50] about think about roqana roqana in order for him to try to get ahead he had to stage some uh fake
[5:55] arrest in israel and then try to run on it gavin newsom is at least talking about what people care
[6:00] about which is affordability but i think he misses the mark they don't you don't get the nickname
[6:04] governor u-haul for nothing you earn it and the my problem with the for both of them in a way of saying
[6:11] well like when when jd says um workers don't have the bargaining power that they need and then gavin
[6:17] newsom saying well uh elon musk he left and well no wonder he left he left because the free market
[6:25] is not allowed to work if you are not if you're in all of these different states and at the federal
[6:28] government despite how much they've tried to pull back some regulations um and the trump
[6:34] administration has done a good job on that how can you say that the free market has been allowed to
[6:38] work it hasn't if you think about what goes on in california all the things that you had to do
[6:43] to make chevron leave that state after so many years being there forever and finally like we
[6:49] can't take it anymore we can't do business here anymore we're going to have to leave they don't
[6:53] want to leave it's the most beautiful state it's got beautiful weather so the fact that he tries to
[6:59] say that they left because i don't know why he thinks elon musk why do you think he left racism
[7:04] well i mean who knows i don't know why he thinks but taking ism yeah all of that anyway i'll let you
[7:12] go i'm sorry man but like he's just a clown absolute clown it's like he's awkward it'd be like me and
[7:22] harold were having lunch together and we went to say hi to somebody and jesse said hold on guys i'll
[7:26] take it from here i speak jive you know like he just how awkward that would be what it is i mean
[7:33] the only thing he didn't do when he was speaking to them to start pop locking with his hands instead
[7:37] of going i think that's from disco kennedy i think he took some disco classes but it's also hilarious
[7:42] to see a extremely wealthy guy talk about capitalism as we know it doesn't work huh maybe your money's
[7:51] in trouble because you shouldn't let your crazy wife handle your finances or capitalism needs to be
[7:57] a little better about finding out fraud because it seems to work pretty well for you the rest of
[8:02] people in california not so much but i'm pretty sure your bottom line got a lot bigger when you
[8:07] were governor so when you hear someone say pay no attention to my success because this stuff sucks
[8:14] capitalism's horrible let's see your bank statement gavin that tells me that you're doing pretty well he's
[8:19] just disingenuous and a thousand percent if they told him that supporting people who want to marry dogs
[8:26] we'll move him up in the polls he will be out next week talking about dogs need love too
[8:32] woof woof i speak dog i'll take it from here i'll take it from here