The Beat With Ari Melber 6/11/26 — 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 Breaking News Today June 11, 2026

[0:00] I'm Ari Melber. We're tracking these reports of ass and infighting in the Trump White House. [0:04] There is a lot of concern about the basically seemingly accurate reporting in the New York [0:10] Times about the Epstein crisis inside the White House, but Donald Trump pushing back on that [0:15] because I guess he's mad that the story is public. Washington also waking up to this type of headline, [0:21] knives are out inside an insular and isolated White House. Political reporting on the angry [0:28] and grievance driven. Trump White House mood these days with one ally saying knives are out in some [0:33] capacity. People are stabbing people like it's chaos, the chaos creeping back. Another MAGA political [0:41] operative quoted as saying Trump is pissed and people are not recognizing the level of pissed [0:46] that he is. It all comes back to Epstein, a story that we've reported and told you they have not [0:52] been able to stab, including high profile testimony this week and that New York Times bombshell, [0:57] which is part of a forthcoming book that probably has more details because this was just an excerpt. [1:03] The Times reporting the rather unusual, somewhat embarrassing detail that they misused [1:09] the national security situation room to spin Epstein. The response here, instead of shoot the [1:15] messenger, it's find the leaker, a reported massive leak probe into who might have been talking [1:21] to those journalists. You'll note, though, that a leak probe implies there are real people who said [1:26] real things to the journalists. In other words, that the story was basically true, right? They want [1:31] to find their own aides who are still in the White House who talk to the reporters. Meanwhile, [1:36] the inflation numbers that are coming in show that the inability to stem or end the ceasefire and the [1:42] war in Iran continues to catch up with America and Trump at home. Price gains have wiped out the pay [1:49] increases that Americans have even gotten over the past year on average. So this is some of that [1:53] economic math. But the bottom line is, if you adjust for inflation, your hourly earnings, [1:59] all Americans' hourly earnings are actually lower. They've effectively fallen because of [2:05] Trump's inflation. Now, Trump says he loves the inflation. I guess that's something he does not [2:10] have in common with the American worker. And there are other statements, which from someone who has [2:16] focused on PR, who is known to be a communicator, have raised wider questions about why any politician, [2:22] including the incumbent president, would say that he doesn't ever even think about your financial [2:27] situation or that he doesn't care about what you do and vote in the upcoming midterms or, [2:32] or as mentioned, that he loves inflation. [2:34] I don't think about anybody. I don't care about the midterms. [2:48] You can serve Mr. President about the latest inflation number, which came out this morning. [2:53] No, I love it. The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. [2:58] He loves it. Meanwhile, in private, there are oil executives warning the White House that the gas [3:05] price problem is only going to get worse. The Washington Post reporting on what were essentially [3:09] private warnings, Americans paying at the pump. Federal workers, meanwhile, are preparing to host [3:19] the UFC ring there at the White House. We have new footage. We should mention Trump also owns stock [3:25] in the company behind this fight. Critics questioning whether this is part of the ongoing [3:30] grift and that it doesn't end there as the Trump family is trying to make money by selling a $12,000 [3:36] commemorative gold coin that connects with this unusual fight that Donald Trump wants to hold at the [3:43] White House, which is a type of focus and energy going to this instead of, you know, governing the [3:49] war, high prices. Jimmy Kimmel having a field day. The Trump family is offering a special commemorative [3:59] coin with his head on it for this UFC event for the low, low price of only $11,999.99. You can see, [4:10] though, it's a beautiful coin. Julius UF Caesar is pictured. You know, if you forget the last many [4:22] years of politics, if you go back to, say, 2014, 2013, you know, before Trump was even really floating [4:28] this run, it's like the Simpsons episode that imagined it or any other cartoon. The fact that it's [4:35] really kind of the most absurd version of Donald Trump hawking the coins and the products and the [4:44] wrestling and the reality TV gambits, the type of thing that you wouldn't think he would need to do. He's in [4:51] the second term. He has no more elections to run. He could try to, at times, focus on other things. But this is [4:56] who he is. He was not going to change. He has shown America who he is. And so that's the weird moment [5:03] we're in, living through a summer where people are actually having to cancel, reschedule, change their [5:10] weekly plans, the vacation they were going to drive to the lake for because gas is too expensive. And [5:17] whatever gains, as I mentioned, they got in hourly wages, have been wiped out by Trump inflation, [5:22] including the gas crunch that is only a direct product of a war that he started that nobody, [5:27] nobody seemed to want in America and that he certainly didn't run on and he certainly didn't [5:32] get Congress to clear. And so against the backdrop of these serious problems, foreign and domestic, [5:38] you have Trump selling coins and doing these reality TV ploys. And you might say, OK, well, [5:44] the news is reporting on that. But, you know, that's who he is. And that's how he got elected. [5:48] And that's his appeal. Well, it's not his appeal anymore. He has historically low second term [5:54] approval ratings. He is at a low enough approval that statistically a heck of a lot of people [5:58] who have voted for him in the past now disapprove of him. So maybe the shtick and the campaign moves [6:05] and the antics that did get attention in our political attention economy during campaign season [6:10] aren't actually turning out in a way that the American public wants. And that's before you even [6:15] get to the aging president's physical stamina. Now, this is the type of story we reported on [6:20] regarding the last president who happened to be a Democrat and this president who happens to be [6:24] Republican. What they have in common is what has become a big kind of ongoing issue in sclerotic [6:30] Washington, which is a lot of people who are way past retirement age, continuing to do their jobs [6:37] or do them as best they can. Trump, again, being seen in what looks like a public nap and not at a [6:43] kind of quiet end of the night kind of event. This was actually at the loud, action-packed Knicks Spurs [6:50] game. Today there is reporting that he saw 22 different medical specialists as part of his [6:55] last checkup. Now, if you have good health care and everybody would want the president to have, [7:00] of course, the best there is, you can see as many specialists as you want. The question is whether [7:04] this relates to other issues and a lack of transparency in the White House. There are questions [7:10] from outside physicians who said they were skeptical of the disclosures about his health. And remember, [7:15] when you are president, you give up some of that personal health security that most Americans have. [7:19] In other words, it's not your employer's business or anyone's business if you don't want to share. [7:23] But that's not the case with the president. There is a long and important standard of the [7:29] president and the White House sharing the medical exams and other information because it is a national [7:35] security issue and a matter of public import. If you ask the public, though, well, Americans are [7:40] concerned that he may no longer be physically and mentally fit enough for the job. And that is a [7:47] backdrop that might remind you of why Biden ultimately exited the race, because those [7:51] kind of problems, those numbers are very hard to reverse. And while Donald Trump isn't running for [7:55] office, his party, of course, is up in the midterms and Republicans are watching their odds get worse. [8:03] Larry Sabato is a renowned elections forecaster. He sees Republicans struggling and Democrats surging [8:10] in several Senate races. Take it all together. And what do you have here? A kind of a doomsday [8:19] of problems. We didn't have to be at war. Trump started the war. So we didn't have to have a gas [8:25] crunch. The war caused that. We didn't have to have an Epstein crisis that lasted this long in [8:30] America. If Donald Trump had done just what he said he would do and immediately released the files, [8:35] it wouldn't have taken this long. And ironically, it may redound against his benefit and hurt the [8:40] Republicans that here deep into the summer, we're still looking at that issue, the reporting, [8:46] him hunting the Epstein leaker, more witnesses going before Congress because Trump's DOJ did not [8:52] do the investigations that they should have and said they would. And you don't have to take [8:57] the news's word for it. You can get that take from Megan and Tucker and the right-wing podcasts. [9:03] So all of this is congealed into a problem for the Republicans going into the midterms and [9:07] potentially for Donald Trump as he looks at a nation that increasingly sees him as [9:12] unfit and off the path Americans want. Where do we go from here and what will Trump do responding [9:20] to such a kind of negative terrain for himself? We have a very special guest book tonight. You [9:28] might remember Tony Schwartz, the Art of the Deal co-author and noted Trump critic who has worked [9:32] with him up close, who has really eyed what the problems are, and he's back with me on set in 90 seconds. [9:38] We're joined by, I'm going to go here, we're joined by Tony Schwartz, co-author of the Art of [9:52] the Deal, his interactions with Trump dramatizing the film The Apprentice. [9:59] I got three rules, okay? They're my three rules of winning. Rule one, the world is a mess, okay? [10:05] The world is a mess, Tony. You have to fight back. You have to have a tough skin. Attack, [10:12] attack, attack. If somebody comes after you with a knife, you shoot him back. [10:16] That's all the Art of the Deal. We know how Tony got there and co-wrote it with allegedly Donald [10:24] Trump, depending on how much you think he wrote. Now, I want to mention Tony is the founder of the [10:28] Energy Project, a consulting firm conducting surveys on how people feel in the workplace, [10:34] and I want to mention you can find that energyproject.com slash survey for the work you're doing. [10:40] Welcome back. I'm thrilled to have you at this critical time. It's been a minute. Given how well [10:44] you know him and how he responds to adversity, what does he do with this situation? [10:51] I honestly don't think he has the marbles to do anything. I think it's happening to him. And, [10:59] you know, you just look at a day like today where he goes from one extreme to the other about Iran and [11:06] whether he's going to bomb it or not, and then he tells the world he is. Why in the world would you do [11:12] that? And, you know, now he's got the Epstein drama that was created by Maggie Haberman and her colleague. [11:23] I just think that he is lost and really doesn't have a sense, not that he was so great about this [11:35] at any time over the last 10 years. But I think he is without any instincts other than self-preservation [11:45] in the immediate moment. And that self-preservation in the immediate moment means he sets himself up [11:52] for lots of terrible things going forward. [11:55] When you see this Epstein story drop and they're still so concerned about that, [12:00] and the response is hunt the leakers. As I mentioned, and it bears underscoring, [12:06] this isn't a response that says they made this up, fake news, it's not true. It's more like, [12:11] oh no, someone who works here told the truth about this. And all he wants to do is publicly [12:15] admit that he wants to quote hunt them down. Yeah. I mean, that's his way is to attack, [12:23] attack, attack, as he said in the movie. And so, you know, the reality has no meaning to him. [12:30] Reality is what he makes it in that moment. And in some measure, he believes that the problem for [12:36] him right now is most people don't. Right. Right. And that, and that, that gap, which we saw in [12:42] gas, it used to be sometimes he would say things and elites or DC would recoil, but he would find a [12:50] pocket of support out in the country. Maybe we didn't like it, but he would find it. When he says, [12:55] I love the inflation going up, which I just reported in the Times as an article, [12:58] has literally wiped out what little hourly gains people had. That's real world. I don't think [13:04] anyone agrees with him that they love that. No, I think they don't. And actually that's part of [13:09] what we're doing in this assessment. You know, in 2014, I did an article for the New York Times called [13:15] Why You Hate Work. And it really assessed what's the experience people are having at work. We're redoing [13:22] that now. That's what you were mentioning. And it strikes me that we are at probably is going to turn [13:28] out that the climate Trump is creating is making the experience of people, what people hate most is [13:37] uncertainty. That's what makes them the most anxious. And the climate of uncertainty trickles [13:44] down. He's from my perspective, the chief head Trump for better or for worse, it's the chief energy [13:49] officer. And the energy is bad. And so the experience people are having, we want to look at [13:56] what is it that, what is it that you need to do as a human, as an individual right now to weather this [14:05] storm to deal with what is an unprecedented level of uncertainty. Yeah. And the gaffs, you know, [14:14] they may accrue in a way where people are sort of used to them. It's almost like the first time [14:17] you fall asleep in public, you go, I guess that's, that's part of his, his deal now, even though he [14:22] was famously loved to call him Sleepy Joe. And then it keeps happening, falling asleep at a Knicks game in [14:29] the, in the finals that you flew up for, you know, it really says something. And I wonder what you think [14:34] having worked with him in his communication skills. I want to show some of these recent gaffs, [14:38] but whether the public is also inured to them to some degree. Take a look. [14:41] I don't care about the mid-time show. [14:55] Sir, Mr. President, about the latest inflation number which came out this morning. Could that be [15:00] No, I love it. The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation. [15:05] It's demented. I mean, it's so self-destructive. And this is, this is, I think, since the first time I came on [15:14] this show in 2015, 2016, I guess it was, I've been saying this, that the destructive impulse, [15:21] self-destructive impulse in Trump is so intense that, you know, it's, it's an, what he has is a [15:29] classic addict's way of being, which is he needs to feel he's a, he's a black hole and you pour stuff [15:38] into it and he poured in, it maxed out when he was reelected president and it looked fantastic, [15:44] but it seeped out incredibly quickly. And then he has to keep upping the ante and chasing the high. [15:51] And so now where he's at is there's no high to chase. So that's just, that's just a piece of [15:58] self-destructiveness. He's going to go, he is going to go down as the worst president in the history of [16:04] this country. You look at his, uh, dealings with the congressional primaries where even when you're [16:10] unpopular, the sitting president has leverage in their party. I mean, that's well-documented. [16:14] It doesn't make him some mighty superhero. It's just how party politics works. And so we saw that [16:20] with Cornyn and Massey. Um, and, and Cornyn, uh, who was very, very reliable vote for the MAGA agenda [16:28] in Texas, but committed the cultish sin of, of criticizing Donald Trump on, on something years [16:34] ago. Uh, this is what he says. Trump was hurting his own party with self-serving decisions and this [16:39] insistence on a kind of slavish loyalty, setting himself up for a midterm disaster, uh, which he [16:45] thinks will pave the way for the most miserable two years of his life. And that's where we go if they [16:54] lose the midterms. And I always tell folks that depends on what the people do, right? We can't [16:58] predict that because we have to see what the people do. But the numbers show if they, if they were [17:02] held today, it would be an uphill battle. That idea that Trump would be miserable, would be a lame duck, [17:07] would be watching the world pass him by. And yet, you know him so well, that doesn't mean [17:11] that he will bow out gracefully. What do you worry about if Cornyn's right about those miserable two [17:16] years? Well, first of all, graceful is not a word we apply to anything that he does. Second of all, [17:22] I, I, I imagine that as being a torturous period of time for him. Um, you know, he's also, we have to [17:29] assume, got something going on pretty significant physically given the number of visits to the [17:35] hospital and all of the, uh, all of the issues you can see on his body. Um, and to be clear, [17:44] that's something experts are questioning and the White House has not been very transparent, right? If they [17:48] were more honest and transparent, then we would look at it and the doctors would tell us what they see. [17:53] Yeah. Uh, and we wish that transparency had characterized the previous administration as [17:59] well. But yes, yeah, lack of transparency is, is characteristic of the, of this administration. [18:04] Um, I just think that, um, though I agree with you, he would not step down or bow out. [18:12] I think he's going to quit in his own mind. It's like, you're playing a basketball game. [18:18] You're playing a basketball game. You're playing a basketball game. You're down by 29. [18:22] And you say, you know what? Right. I've had it. Some teams. He is not, he is not the Knicks. Let me say [18:27] one other thing, Ari, just. But I'll let you finish. But you think he might do a kind of quiet quitting [18:32] at the real hard parts of the job. Perfect description. He is going to quietly quit, [18:36] even if it's just that he loses the house. But I think people really, maybe this is my hope, [18:43] are underestimating how big this wave is going to be. I think the wave is going to be bigger. [18:48] But I just want to invite again your audience to collaborate with me in assessing how they're [18:57] doing and in being able to report back to them, I hope here, uh, on what we discover, [19:02] particularly as it relates to what they can do about it. So www.theenergyproject.com [19:09] slash survey. Great. And we'll, uh, we'll put that up on our socials as well. Tony Schwartz, [19:14] thank you. Good to have you back in the house. Uh, coming up, Donald Trump has a plan [19:18] on the convict fund, a way to potentially bring it back. And is it still illegal? [19:22] Maya Wiley is here on the DOJ next. Turning to two important stories now that are related, [19:30] Donald Trump's lies and his effort to get people around him who will support or even abuse government [19:37] power for those lies. Number one is a story with a type of silver lining, if you care about [19:43] qualifications in government, because we can report that Trump has backed off one of his most [19:48] controversial moves of the last several weeks, and now is pushing prosecutor Jay Clayton to run [19:52] intelligence. That is a retreat from Trump's initial temporary pick, Bill Pulte, who had [20:01] no relevant intelligence experience and faced widespread backlash. Now, whatever one thinks [20:08] of Clayton, this new individual, he does have more relevant experience. So this is widely seen as a [20:14] retreat by Trump that he didn't want to continue to fight what was probably a losing battle to have an [20:19] unqualified partisan choice play a kind of temporary role on intelligence. Now, some of that pushback [20:25] came from experts, intel vets, Democrats had criticized the choice, as well as Republicans. [20:31] And if you're sensing a pattern here, things are a little different than a year ago or the first term. [20:35] We're increasingly seeing, at least on the very extreme measures, some Republicans in the Congress, [20:41] including some that Trump, of course, has tried to defeat, which I just discussed with Tony, [20:45] we've seen some of those Republicans join a chorus of pushback. Now, this new individual for the intel [20:52] pick, Clayton, was recently questioned about Donald Trump's evidence-free claims about voter fraud. [20:57] Do you think that it helps, given where you sit in the world, to speculate about a fraud or potential [21:10] fraud without any direct evidence of said fraud? I am not speculating about fraud. I'm not saying there [21:18] is fraud, okay? I am saying that the opportunity for fraud makes no sense to me. [21:24] The president over the weekend, very openly, didn't just speculate that there was fraud. [21:31] He said directly that there was fraud. You'll notice the kind of slow, halting, [21:37] pausing interaction. Part of what you're seeing is what it sounds like when someone doesn't want to [21:42] upset the president, which, by the way, is part of your job if you're an honest government [21:45] service, if you're in that line of work, but not going nearly as far as the now discarded pick, [21:51] Pulte, who was saying all kinds of false things. So what we also know, though, is the administration's [21:58] already tried pursuing election fraud investigations in California, and Democratic leaders are pushing [22:03] back quickly. They're prepping legal injunctions so that they can bar in real time any effort to [22:10] misuse power and put armed federal agents or even armed citizens near voting sites, among other [22:14] measures. So for those watching who say, well, are we even going to have a free and fair midterms, [22:18] that's some of the back and forth. I mentioned a second story here, and it's kind of related. [22:23] Pressure works. Lawmakers and lawsuits have swiftly made Donald Trump's DOJ back off [22:29] that proposed criminal fund that drew so much outrage. Remember, the DOJ first floated this [22:34] as a method where they would misuse sort of funds that are in the DOJ settlement fund system [22:42] to pay, like, legitimate cases. They would just take that without it being appropriated [22:47] from Congress and try to pay MAGA allies, maybe even ex-convicts from Jan 6th. Now, [22:53] that's paused in court. Trump's DOJ saying it will stop. They will not do the fund. That's what [22:58] they said to court. But that doesn't mean they will. If you're watching this, you're going, yeah, [23:04] I've seen Trump and his folks lie and move around before, right? And there are new reports that Trump [23:09] aides are already secretly assuring some allies that those original payout plans will remain on [23:15] track, according to eight sources who spoke to The Atlantic. Now, that violates the DOJ's own [23:22] claim in court. So what do we do with this? If you're watching this and going, okay, well, [23:27] they lost, they backed off. But if it's just a ploy, then what happened? Well, I can tell you some of [23:34] the lawyers and liberal groups who've been suing over this are onto it. The DOJ provided no evidence, [23:41] for example, say lawyers who were suing them over this issue, that it would actually end this thing [23:45] for good. And so what you're seeing tonight is the Trump Justice Department's we don't trust you [23:53] moment. That's what Metro Boomin once told the artist Drake, that basically, you have no credibility. [24:01] If people don't trust how you move, if people don't trust you, then they will act accordingly. [24:07] It's kind of a diss. In fact, if you're interested in the trivia, the album cover on your screen is [24:13] we don't trust you. And that's the whole thing that started ultimately that big Kendrick Drake [24:19] rap battle. So if we don't trust, as they would say, the DOJ, what do you do about it? Well, [24:26] there are measures here. You just have to play tough and not back down. So one of those legal [24:30] groups I mentioned that's saying to DOJ and Todd Blanche, we don't trust you, are using their power [24:36] in what is still the open lawsuit and asking the courts to go in and make sure that Todd Blanche, [24:41] who has done so much for Trump's bidding, that Mr. Blanche will be forced, they argue, [24:47] that the judge shouldn't just let this go on his word, but should actually issue a permanent [24:51] injunction so that they cannot legally misuse those funds. Now, is this analogy fair? And what [25:01] will be the outcome in those cases? I think we have a good guest for this, our friend and lawyer, [25:06] Maya Wiley, next. The Trump administration is in retreat on several issues, from their intelligence [25:14] pick to that criminal fund, even as there are reports that, as I explained, a lot of folks [25:18] are saying to Trump DOJ, we don't trust you. I want to bring in Maya Wiley, the SDNY civil prosecutor, [25:25] CEO of Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, former mayoral candidate, and today, [25:29] a New Yorker in Nick's Orange. Okay. Did you feel good last night? Did I feel good last night? [25:36] I'm so good. They had to put twice as much makeup over the bags under my eyes because I couldn't stop [25:40] watching clips. I'm happy for you. So, we don't trust you, they say. I just want to level set that [25:49] even very controversial administrations, the Bush administration had all kinds of legal [25:53] controversies. But when their attorneys general submitted a testation to a court that a program [25:59] was over, that was usually the end of it. Here, I've noted the strong work by Crewe and other lawyers [26:04] to say they at the DOJ don't get that kind of deference anymore and they should be permanently [26:10] barred or else there's a risk. Are they being unfair at being so doubtful of the DOJ today? Or what [26:18] do you think? Absolutely not. And there's plenty of public record to show why they should not. But I [26:25] am just going to say the one thing I have never seen in my career in my lifetime. 35 federal judges [26:33] who send a letter to the court saying you have to stop this, basically. This Trump agreement, [26:45] when Trump is on both sides of the case, think about this. Trump is the plaintiff and the defendant. [26:51] Yeah. Next, he'll be the judge. Next, he'll be, and, exactly. [26:54] It makes no sense. Well, as he's actually trying to be the judge. [26:56] He wants all the judges to be his judges. And this is the point. And we have a sitting, [27:01] an interim attorney general who's also been a deputy attorney general, not only long history of, [27:06] not only being his personal defense attorney, because that in and of itself, in and of itself, [27:11] not necessarily the problem, except that he's acting like it. And so you have a case in which what the 35 [27:19] federal judges are pointing out, bipartisan, by the way, what they're pointing out is not only is on [27:24] both sides of the case, he brings a case that has to do with personal tax issues. Yeah, his own, [27:31] personal. Has nothing to do with the people's business. And then somehow not only does he self-dismiss [27:38] that case, there is no mention of the fact that there's this agreement. No mention. I clerked for [27:48] a federal judge. I've appeared before federal judges. It is common and normal practice if there [27:54] is a settlement agreement to just disclose that fact. Sure. That's just normal. In fact, [28:00] you like to tell the judge. Judge, we've agreed. We're good. No, the hiding is suspicious. [28:04] The hiding is deeply suspicious. And I want to show Blanche, and again, part of our job here is [28:09] some people say, oh, they get used to it or they get tired. I think we have to be very clear about [28:15] what the rules are in this country and what our values are. And the fact that some people break [28:19] them doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means we have to deal with that. And so I observe [28:23] this opening sequence since Todd Blanche became acting attorney general as one of the worst, [28:32] most failed scandal-plagued openings of any attorney general's period ever. I mean, [28:39] the worst first month ever. And I want to play what he's claiming. They're not moving forward with [28:43] the fund. When he is under oath, it is still a crime to make a materially false statement to [28:49] Congress, whether it's in writing or not. That's why you go to Congress. That's why that law exists, [28:54] even if you're not sworn in. And what he claimed there and what this report today shows and what [28:59] Trump continues to muse about. Take a look. But we are not moving forward with the fund, period. [29:06] Not moving forward ever. Correct. Notwithstanding what we do in those litigations and defending our [29:12] rights and making sure our rights are protected, we're not moving forward with the fund. I think [29:16] the weaponization fund is a great idea. And so do many of the Republicans. You have to get it approved. [29:23] If they get it approved, that's great. If they don't get it approved, I'd be disappointed. [29:28] Well, there you have it. One of the things we know about Todd Blanche in that is he not only was [29:38] not under oath, he also refused to put it in writing despite the fact that he said it. [29:43] What sitting attorney, anyone sitting in this position of the people's top lawyer should, [29:48] if making a representation like that, should be unwilling to put it in writing unless you're [29:53] waiting to do the bidding of the president who's telling you, you do what I tell you. [29:57] Not what the law tells you, not what conscience tells you, not what your roles or your responsibilities [30:01] tell you. And I want to remind everyone, which I think people are quite aware of, is who might [30:06] benefit from this fund? Who might benefit are the very people that Donald Trump said when he was [30:13] candidate Trump. Stand back and stand by. Yep. [30:17] And then showed up, committed crimes were violent and were organized, intentional inciters of [30:24] violence. That's what we're talking about. And when you are, even Bill Barr wouldn't go this far. [30:32] No, he wouldn't. [30:33] Even Bill Barr. And you and I sat and did a lot of TV coverage about how egregious it was, [30:38] some of the behaviors we saw from Bill Barr, including around the Mueller report. [30:42] We haven't seen anything like what Todd Blanche has done. And full disclosure, the Leadership [30:48] Conference on Civil and Human Rights, coalition of over 240 national organizations, we are strongly [30:54] opposing his nomination to have the job permanently. And I just have to say, it doesn't matter who you [31:00] are. We have Capitol Police officers raising his claim, saying it's our lives who are on the line. [31:06] This fraud actually has directly impacted us. There are threats to our lives still. [31:10] The consequences of these go far beyond even whether the law was broken or not broken. [31:15] It actually has substantial implications for real people and whether we're giving permission [31:21] to hate and violence. Yeah. You put it very clearly, which is why we wanted to hear from [31:25] you, Maya Wiley. Thank you so much. When we come back from the break, [31:29] Eamon Moyle-Dean says Donald Trump is destroying America's moral credibility and something must be done [31:35] as we also look at how the Trump economy is complicating life for young people.