'Tense' pre-trial conference? Poa says it's normal, 'trabaho lang, walang personalan' — ANC

[0:00] What is the pre-trial conference that's scheduled for the pre-trial conference? [0:03] Not yet, so today was the first day of the pre-trial conference that was scheduled. [0:08] We were okay as far as the defense is concerned. [0:13] We were okay as it happened. [0:15] Right now, we're still doing the marking of the evidence. [0:19] So, I don't think we're going to finish today, [0:22] because we're going to come back to Monday. [0:27] Yun na rin ang nasabi sa amin, [0:30] na magkakaroon pa kaginaisipang setting ng Monday for the marking. [0:33] Hopefully, matapos natin ng Monday. [0:35] Kung hindi naman, we're ready to also come back on Tuesday. [0:37] Sir, hindi nga natapos today dahil maraming evidence of both sides. [0:41] Both sides, yes, both sides. [0:43] At talagang, hindi naman talaga ganun kabilis yung marking. [0:46] Syempre, there are instances when we have to compare documents. [0:50] Lalo na kung photocopy, we have to compare it to the original. [0:53] So, natural naman po yan, normal lang po yan, [0:56] na hindi ganun kabilis ang marking. [0:58] Pero last day na sir sa Monday or day by day? [1:01] Hindi natin masasabi. [1:02] Sa ngayon, syempre, ang gusto namin sa panig ng defense, [1:06] at I think even naman prosecution, [1:08] basta matapos kami ng mas maaga, [1:10] mas maganda rin para sa amin, [1:12] para makapag-prepare na kami [1:13] or makapag-focus na kami sa aming preparation for trial. [1:16] But titignan natin, kung kayang matapos ang Monday, [1:19] tatapusin natin. [1:20] Kung hindi naman, ready rin kaming bumalik ng Tuesday [1:22] para lang matapos. [1:23] Mga 6% na yung matapos ngayon sir? [1:25] Well, there's one article, [1:27] apat yung article. [1:28] May isang article po na tapos na yung marking. [1:31] Pero the three articles, hindi pa. [1:34] I think there's one other article [1:37] na maaaring either matapos ngayon [1:39] or early Monday. [1:41] Pero meron tayong dalawang article [1:43] na marami talaga mga dokumento. [1:45] So yun yung ina-anticipate natin [1:46] na either end of day Monday [1:49] or baka abutin pa tayo ng Tuesday. [1:51] Hindi ko masabi talaga sa ngayon. [1:53] Pero on time pa kayo sir [1:55] in terms of preparation kung July 6? [1:57] Yes, oo. [1:58] I think on time naman tayo [2:01] dahil nung binigay naman sa atin [2:02] yung naunang calendar noon [2:04] na mukhang ang July 6 [2:05] yung first day of trial. [2:07] Yan naman talaga yung pinaghahandaan na natin. [2:09] In our minds, [2:11] sa defense talagang July 6 [2:12] ang first day of trial. [2:14] Sir, we know nasa pre-trial palang trial. [2:16] Pero yung communication with Vini, [2:19] chances of darating ba siya [2:21] sa mismong trial? [2:22] May ganun ba? [2:23] Well, sa atin naman, [2:24] parat kong sinasabi siya [2:25] kung kinakilangan. [2:26] But sa ngayon, [2:27] hindi pa natin masasabi [2:28] kung kailan yun, [2:29] kung mangyayari yun, [2:30] kung kailan yun. [2:31] Really, [2:32] ang communication natin kay VP [2:34] is constant naman. [2:35] Meron naman tayong open line [2:36] with the Vice President. [2:37] Nag-uusapan namin lahat. [2:38] In fact, [2:39] after today, [2:40] i-update ko rin siya [2:41] dito sa nangyari today, [2:43] sa first day of pre-trial. [2:45] Sir, yung first day ng pre-trial, [2:48] can you help us describe [2:50] kung kumusta yung [2:51] naging working relationship ninyo [2:53] with the prosecution? [2:54] Ano yung mga huggles ba? [2:56] Okay naman po. [2:57] As you can see, [2:58] medyo lumalabas nga sa online [3:00] na may nagka-attention [3:01] or something. [3:02] So, I just wanna make it clear [3:04] na normal naman [3:06] na may arguments [3:07] on both sides [3:08] pero hindi naman natin [3:09] masasabing [3:10] attention na talaga yun. [3:11] It was really, you know, [3:12] it's normal in any pre-trial [3:14] even in the, [3:15] hindi lang sa impeachment [3:16] pero sa mga regular na mga kaso [3:19] ay normal naman yung mga ganung bagay. [3:21] Wala namang personal niyan. [3:22] Trabaho lang. [3:23] In fact, [3:24] uusap nga kami ng prosecution. [3:25] Diba? [3:26] So, wala naman po tayong [3:27] naging nakitang problema. [3:28] Ang naging incident lang this morning [3:32] is nag-usap kami [3:34] with [3:35] some of the prosecutors [3:37] and of course [3:38] with [3:39] the clerk of court [3:40] si attorney Bantug [3:41] kung paano mapapabilis [3:42] yung proseso [3:43] at nagkaroon naman [3:45] ng agreement [3:46] on both sides [3:47] especially with the stipulation [3:48] of facts [3:49] na kung may mga kumento kami doon [3:51] o kung ano man ang aming posisyon doon [3:53] sa mga proposal [3:54] sa mga proposed stipulations [3:56] ay ilalagay na lang namin [3:57] in writing [3:58] at sasabing na lang namin [3:59] by Monday. [4:00] So, I think that's one of the things [4:02] that are [4:03] na talagang lumabas ngayong araw [4:05] is nagkaroon kami ng kasunduan [4:06] na ganun na lang [4:07] para lalong mapabilis natin [4:08] yung proseso. [4:09] Sir, for us non-lawyers [4:10] na, [4:11] esensyal na po, [4:12] ano yung pre-trial conference [4:13] you're assigned for marking of everything? [4:15] Well, usually [4:16] kung ano nakikita nyo [4:17] sa pre-trial brief [4:18] yan ang napag-uusapan. [4:19] For example, [4:20] statement of the case, [4:21] stipulation of facts [4:22] meaning [4:23] ano yung mga pinapropose nyo [4:24] na [4:25] i-admit na ng kabila [4:26] na [4:27] factual na [4:28] para hindi na natin [4:29] kailangan i-proved pa [4:30] in the course of the trial [4:31] and then of course [4:32] the list of witnesses [4:33] and the list of [4:34] documentary evidence [4:36] the pieces of documentary evidence [4:38] that we will be presenting [4:39] and then [4:40] trial dates [4:41] napag-usapan din yung trial dates [4:43] and [4:44] ngayon nga [4:45] yung [4:46] since [4:47] nabanggit ko kanina yung mga [4:48] pieces of documentary evidence [4:50] ngayon [4:51] kakaroon na ng pagmamarka [4:52] ng mga evidential na yun. [4:53] Yung pagmamarka naman [4:54] it's really for identification purposes [4:56] para para nasa trial tayo [4:58] madali na lang natin [4:59] matukoy kung ano yung dokumento na yun. [5:01] For example, [5:02] exhibit 1, [5:03] exhibit 2, [5:04] di ba? [5:05] So ganun lang naman po yun. [5:06] It's really, [5:07] ang nangyari kasi sa pre-trial is [5:08] nag-uusapan na kung ano yung pwedeng pag-usapan [5:10] to simplify the issues [5:11] at para mapabilis yung trial. [5:13] Pag-uusapan naman po yung timeline [5:15] sir? [5:16] Timeline wala eh. [5:17] Because of course, [5:18] it will depend talaga [5:19] on the presentation of witnesses. [5:21] As you can see [5:22] in the previous impeachment trials, [5:23] hindi rin naman talaga nila [5:24] maistima [5:26] o mabigyan kayo ng [5:27] any sense of timeline. [5:29] But we'll see. [5:30] We'll see how it goes. [5:31] But I think both sides naman [5:32] are really looking to expedite [5:35] as much as possible [5:36] to make things simpler. [5:37] Parang [5:38] amin na, [5:39] ang goal naman talaga namin [5:40] during the course of the trial [5:41] is maintindihan din ng ating mga kababayan [5:44] kung ano yung nangyayari. [5:45] Ma-present natin ng mabuti [5:47] at malinaw yung mga ebidensya. [5:49] So, I'm optimistic [5:51] na magiging maayos naman po [5:53] ang trial natin. [5:54] Sir, nyo sasaluto na kayo sa list [5:56] ng witnesses? [5:57] Ano po? [5:58] Sa witnesses sir? [5:59] May na-finalize nyo na? [6:01] Well, kanina kasi we decided [6:02] we'll just stick with [6:04] the list of witnesses [6:05] of both sides naman. [6:06] Wala na kaming mga [6:08] ilabas na objections or anything. [6:10] Ilan po yung both sides? [6:12] I don't know [6:14] sa kabilang side. [6:15] Sa amin, [6:16] probably the same number. [6:17] I think 25, 30. [6:19] Hindi ko rin masabi. [6:20] I don't want to give an exact number [6:22] right now. [6:23] Kasi meron namang mga reserve din yan. [6:25] May mga reserve witnesses rin. [6:27] So, [6:28] I don't really want to give an exact number. [6:31] Probably, [6:32] in the coming days, [6:34] I'll give you a more concrete figure. [6:36] At same percent 29, 30? [6:38] Nasa ganun eh. [6:39] Kasi halos similar witnesses naman kami ng prosecution. [6:42] Less to? [6:43] Sa amin, [6:44] I think a little bit less. [6:45] But then we have reservations. [6:46] So, [6:47] may pag-aasam pa rin madagdagan yung listahan namin. [6:49] Attorney, [6:50] may talks dun sa presiding officer na pwedeng magbago, [6:53] not the SP, [6:54] pwedeng si Senator Gies. [6:56] Your thought on the decision? [6:57] I, [6:58] I would not want to comment on that. [7:00] I think that is something that is internal to the Senate. [7:03] But, [7:04] tayo naman, [7:05] handa naman tayong humarap. [7:06] Basta na ayon sa batas at sa Constitution, [7:08] kung sino man ang presiding officer eh, [7:10] handa naman po tayo. [7:11] Wala naman tayong kinikilingan or pinapaborahan pagdating sa ganyan. [7:16] I think that's something internal to the Senate. [7:18] And out of respect for the Senate, [7:20] it's something I don't want to comment on yet at the same time. [7:23] So, [7:24] doon sa voting threshold, [7:25] may usapan din na pwede siyang kabababayan? [7:28] That one, [7:29] di ko muna kukomentan. [7:30] Obviously, [7:31] we have our own position on that issue. [7:33] So, [7:34] I think it's premature for me to comment right now, [7:36] especially since wala pa namang nagiging [7:38] categorical position ang impeachment court. [7:42] But definitely, [7:43] we have our position on the matter. [7:45] Thank you. [7:46] Thank you. [7:47] Sir, [7:48] sa mga nagdasabing hindi raw kayo handa? [7:49] Well, [7:50] narinig ko nga yan. [7:51] Parang may nakita akong mga news blasts yata [7:54] o sa SOCMED, [7:55] na hindi daw kami handa. [7:57] Sa totoo lang, [7:58] although ginagalang ko yung mga [8:01] nagbitaw ng mga salitang yan, [8:03] hindi ko po maintindihan where that is coming from. [8:05] The defense takes exception to that, no? [8:08] Because definitely, [8:09] dumating kami dito ng handa. [8:11] Pinaghandaan namin ito na [8:13] talagang napakatagal na panahon. [8:15] Dumating kaming handa [8:16] and the records will speak for itself. [8:17] Makikita naman siguro sa transcripts [8:19] kung anong nangyari this morning [8:21] and wala naman siguro magsasabi [8:23] na pumunta kami dito na hindi kami handa. [8:25] So, I really don't know where that is coming from. [8:27] But in any case, [8:29] ano na lang, [8:30] we respect the opinions of everyone [8:32] but again, [8:33] the records would speak for themselves. [8:34] Thank you. [8:35] Thank you, sir.