About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Stephen A Smith reveals what he told President Trump at WH dinner from Fox News, published October 17, 2026. The transcript contains 1,864 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"LAST NIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP HOSTED A DINNER AT THE WHITE HOUSE, FOUR AND A HALF HOURS, BILL MAHR, KID ROCK, OUR BUDDY STEVEN A. SMITH, AND DESPITE THEIR VARYING POLITICAL VIEWS, KID ROCK SAID THEY HAD, WELL, FOUND ONE HUGE AREA OF AGREEMENT. TAKE A LISTEN. LAST NIGHT, I'M HAVING DINNER AT THE WHITE"
[0:01] LAST NIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP HOSTED A DINNER AT THE WHITE HOUSE,
[0:05] FOUR AND A HALF HOURS, BILL MAHR, KID ROCK, OUR BUDDY STEVEN A. SMITH,
[0:09] AND DESPITE THEIR VARYING POLITICAL VIEWS, KID ROCK SAID THEY HAD,
[0:12] WELL, FOUND ONE HUGE AREA OF AGREEMENT. TAKE A LISTEN.
[0:16] LAST NIGHT, I'M HAVING DINNER AT THE WHITE HOUSE WITH THE PRESIDENT,
[0:18] BILL MAHR, AND STEVEN A. SMITH.
[0:20] ONE THING WE ALL WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREED ON IS THAT SOCIALISM AND
[0:25] COMMUNISM HAS NO PLACE TO HAVE A FOOTHOLD IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
[0:28] AND THIS GUY IS SCREAMING SOCIALISM.
[0:31] HOW DID THAT DINNER GO?
[0:33] YEAH, SORRY, LORENCE.
[0:34] HOW DID THE DINNER GO?
[0:35] BECAUSE IT WAS THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE DONE THIS, RIGHT?
[0:37] IT WAS EPIC.
[0:38] AND THE THING THAT I THINK WAS THE GREATEST,
[0:40] THERE'S SO MANY POINTS I COULD DO A WHOLE HOUR ON IT,
[0:43] IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO DEMOCRATS, TWO REPUBLICANS,
[0:47] SIT DOWN, BREAK BREAD.
[0:49] ALL RIGHT, HERE WITH MORE ON LAST NIGHT'S DINNER,
[0:51] OUR VERY GOOD FRIEND, ESPN HOST, PODCAST HOST,
[0:54] ALL AROUND STAR, RADIO, AND HE LETS YOU KNOW IT
[0:58] EVERY TIME YOU TALK TO HIM, THE ONE AND ONLY STEVE AND I.
[1:00] ALL RIGHT, ONE LITTLE SIDE NOTE BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
[1:04] I COULD HAVE BEEN AT THAT DINNER, TRUE OR FALSE?
[1:07] THANK GOD YOU WERE NOT.
[1:09] I WAS SCARED TO DEATH THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GO.
[1:11] I DID NOT WANT YOU TO COME.
[1:13] I TOLD YOU I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO COME.
[1:15] BECAUSE BILL MAHR INVITED ME.
[1:17] AND TRUMP INVITED HIM, AND BILL MAHR INVITED ME AS HIS GUEST.
[1:20] AND I DIDN'T WANT YOU AROUND BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE JUST DONE,
[1:25] YOU WOULD HAVE PROTECTED TRUMP AT EVERY TURN.
[1:26] AND ANY QUESTION WE ASKED, YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ANSWERED FOR HIM.
[1:29] SO I DIDN'T WANT THAT.
[1:31] THAT'S SO NOT TRUE.
[1:33] HE'S MORE THAN CAPABLE OF ANSWERING FOR HIMSELF.
[1:35] I KNOW THAT IT WOULD HAVE STOPPED YOU, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
[1:37] I'M SAYING IT WOULDN'T HAVE STOPPED YOU.
[1:39] I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU.
[1:40] IT WOULDN'T HAVE STOPPED YOU.
[1:42] THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
[1:42] YOU'VE TOOK OVER.
[1:43] JUST LIKE YOU TAKE OVER EVERYTHING ELSE.
[1:45] NO, I LOVE GOOD DEBATES, YOU KNOW.
[1:48] ALL RIGHT, SO FOUR AND A HALF HOURS.
[1:50] TAKE US INSIDE THAT LONG DINNER.
[1:55] WELL, WE GOT THERE, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE STAFF WAS GREAT.
[1:58] A LOT OF NICE PEOPLE THERE.
[2:01] THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
[2:01] GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY JUST TO GIVE THEM THEIR KUDOS.
[2:03] AND THEN WHEN WE WERE THERE, HULTIMATELY, HE BROUGHT US INTO THE OVAL OFFICE.
[2:07] WE SPENT SOME TIME IN THERE, YOU KNOW, TOOK US FOR A TOUR OF WHERE THE NEW HELIPORT IS,
[2:12] WHERE THE UFC EVENT WAS HELD MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, SHOWED US THE BALLROOM AND THE CONSTRUCTION
[2:17] THAT WAS TAKING PLACE THERE.
[2:18] TOOK US TO THE WEST WING.
[2:20] AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE JUST SEEMED TO BE REAL APPRECIATIVE OF THE HISTORY THAT EXISTED INSIDE
[2:24] THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS.
[2:27] OF COURSE, HE SHOWED THE NEW ROSE GARDEN AND HOW THE GRASS IS GONE AND THEY PUT SOME HARD
[2:32] FLOORS THERE SO IT LOOKED MORE PRESENTABLE, WHICH IT DID.
[2:35] UH, NATURALLY, HE WALKED US DOWN THE COLONNADE SECTION WHERE THERE ARE PICTURES OF EVERY SINGLE
[2:42] PRESIDENT FROM GEORGE WASHINGTON UP TO HIM, EXCLUDING ONE, WHICH IS JOE BIDEN.
[2:48] AND INSTEAD OF JOE BIDEN'S FACE BEING THERE, HE'S GOT AN AUTO PIN, A PICTURE OF AN AUTO PIN THERE.
[2:53] I SAID, NOW, THAT'S JUST CRUEL.
[2:54] THAT'S JUST CRUEL.
[2:54] AND HE WAS LIKE, IT'S FUNNY, THOUGH.
[2:56] IT'S FUNNY.
[2:56] SO THAT'S JUST HIM.
[2:58] AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT,
[3:01] HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION.
[3:03] AND TO HIS CREDIT, HE WAS INCREDIBLY HOSPITABLE.
[3:06] AND HE DID NOT DUCK ANY ISSUE.
[3:08] WE SAT THERE, AND WE COULD HAVE STAYED THERE FOR ANOTHER HOUR.
[3:11] WE DIDN'T HAVE TO RUN AND CATCH FLIGHTS TO GET THE HELL OUT OF TOWN.
[3:14] IT WAS HIM THAT WAS THERE, AND HE WAS TALKING A MILE A MINUTE.
[3:17] HE DIDN'T DUCK ANY SMOKE WHATSOEVER.
[3:20] EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT BILL MARR OR MYSELF CONFRONTED HIM WITH,
[3:24] HE HAD AN AN ANSWER FOR.
[3:26] I WOULD THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WAS, THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR
[3:29] WAS WHEN I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE INVOLVING HBCUs.
[3:33] NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THE FUTURES ACT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HE SIGNED
[3:36] LEGISLATION INTO, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE TO MANDATE $255 MILLION ANNUALLY
[3:42] TO HBCUs.
[3:43] I WAS MAKING THE POINT TO HIM, SHAWN, WHICH WAS MY NUMBER ONE REASON FOR BEING
[3:46] THERE.
[3:47] I WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT TO HIM THAT BECAUSE OF HIS FIXATION ON HIS OPPOSITION,
[3:54] RATHER, THE DEI, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE FEDERAL GOV, THE FEDS,
[3:59] HAD ALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS FOR HBCUs, THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT IS THAT PRIVATE
[4:05] CORPORATIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE CHARITABLE AND PHILANTHROPIC IN NATURE
[4:09] THROUGHOUT THE YEARS TO HBCUs HAD CURVED SOME OF THAT SPENDING TO SOME DEGREE,
[4:14] BECAUSE THEY WERE HESITANT THAT THEY'D BE TARGETED FOR, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING RACIAL
[4:18] PREFERENCES AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE.
[4:20] AND I SAID TO HIM, YOU'RE A CONSERVATIVE IN OFFICE.
[4:23] YOU BELIEVE IN FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.
[4:25] YOU BELIEVE IN LESS GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE AND OPERATING WITHIN THE CONFINES
[4:30] OF THE FREE MARKET TO REALLY GENERATE REVENUE.
[4:32] WHY WOULD YOU GET IN THE WAY, IN ANY WAY, OF CORPORATIONS DOING THIS, INTENTIONAL OR NOT?
[4:38] AND HE TOOK HEED TO THAT AND SAID THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HE WAS GOING TO THINK ABOUT STRONGLY
[4:42] AND THAT HE WAS MEETING WITH HIS PEOPLE NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THAT VERY ISSUE.
[4:45] STEPHEN A, I WAS ON YOUR PODCAST LAST WEEK AND I LOVE SPENDING TIME WITH YOU.
[4:50] WE HAD A GOOD TIME.
[4:50] WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY ABOUT HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES.
[4:56] DONALD TRUMP IS THE GUY THAT MADE IT PERMANENT.
[4:58] YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING THAT.
[4:59] YES.
[4:59] AND GUARANTEED MORE MONEY.
[5:01] NO OTHER PRESIDENT DID THAT.
[5:03] THESE COLLEGES WOULD HAVE TO GO EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
[5:05] IF YOU GO BACK TO HIS FIRST TERM BEFORE COVID, WE HAD THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT FOR
[5:10] AFRICAN-AMERICANS, HISPANIC-AMERICANS, ASIAN-AMERICANS, WOMEN IN THE WORKPLACE,
[5:14] AFRICAN-AMERICAN YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT.
[5:16] RIGHT NOW WE SEE THAT THE LOWEST 25% OF WAGE EARNERS ARE DOING THE BEST.
[5:21] WE HAVE THE LOWEST POVERTY RATE EVER IN HISTORY AND THE HIGHEST MEDIAN INCOME IN HISTORY.
[5:25] I KNOW GAS PRICES ARE HIGH, BUT THEY'RE HIGHEST IN BLUE STATES AND CITIES BECAUSE THEY TAX THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF IT.
[5:35] IN FAIRNESS TO HIM, HE BROUGHT THAT UP.
[5:37] AND WHEN I BROUGHT UP NUMBERS ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 200,000 TO 300,000 BLACK WOMEN,
[5:41] YOU KNOW, WITHOUT JOBS BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL CUTS THAT WERE INSTITUTED THE MINUTE HE RETURNED TO OFFICE,
[5:47] HE CHALLENGED THOSE NUMBERS, NUMBER ONE.
[5:50] HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW A LOT OF THEM ARE THRIVING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
[5:54] AND I SAID, RESPECTFULLY, SIR, THAT'S NOT THE SENTIMENT EMANATING OUT OF MY COMMUNITY.
[5:59] THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HEAR BLACK WOMEN TALKING ABOUT.
[6:01] AND SO EVEN THOUGH YOU BRING UP WHAT TRANSPIRED IN 2019 AND BEYOND, SEAN, BECAUSE OF COVID OR WHAT HAVE YOU,
[6:07] THE REASON WHY WE DON'T THINK MUCH ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE NOBODY WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ECONOMY RIGHT BEFORE COVID TOOK PLACE.
[6:12] BECAUSE WE THOUGHT HE WAS ENROUTE TO CAPTURING A SECOND TERM WITH EASE BECAUSE THE ECONOMY WAS THRIVING AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME BECAUSE COVID SET IN.
[6:20] ONCE HE RETURNED BACK TO OFFICE AFTER BIDEN WAS IN OFFICE AND HE MADE SOME OF THESE CUTS,
[6:25] WELL, THE PEOPLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY ARE FEELING IT.
[6:27] AND WHAT THEY WOULD TELL YOU IS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE NUMBERS SHOW, AND I SAID THIS TO HIM,
[6:32] SOMETIMES IT COMES ACROSS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO CNBC OR CEOs OR SOMETHING,
[6:36] AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE AT THE KITCHEN TABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE FEELING IT.
[6:39] AND YOU'VE USED THAT ANALOGY ON MANY OCCASIONS IN THE PAST WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE
[6:43] ACTUALLY FEELING AT THE TABLE.
[6:45] SO HE MAY HAVE THE NUMBERS.
[6:47] AND I SAID TO HIM, WE'RE NOT FEELING IT.
[6:49] NOT FROM OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR EYES, IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS.
[6:53] AND I THINK THAT IF YOU ARE CORRECT, YOU GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MESSAGING.
[6:58] EVERY AMERICAN FELT IT A LOT WORSE UNDER JOE BIDEN.
[7:02] EVERY AMERICAN.
[7:03] AND HE HAD THE MOST PREVENTABLE NATIONAL SECURITY DISASTER LYING ABOUT THE BORDER IS CLOSED,
[7:08] THE BORDER IS SECURE.
[7:09] THEY WERE LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH.
[7:10] BY THE WAY, NEXT TIME, I'M SHOWING UP.
[7:14] YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?
[7:15] BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO GO.
[7:17] I DON'T WANT YOU TO SHOW UP NEXT TIME.
[7:18] I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SHOW UP THIS TIME.
[7:20] BUT YOU CAN SHOW UP NEXT TIME.
[7:21] YOU CAN COME TO THIS.
[7:22] YOU CAN DO THAT NEXT TIME.
[7:24] BUT LAST NIGHT, STUFF NEEDED TO BE DISCUSSED.
[7:27] AND DAMMIT, CHORN HANNITY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY.
[7:29] CHORN HANNITY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY.
[7:33] NO, I WOULD HAVE SAD BACK AND ENJOYED THE SHOW.
[7:36] IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT SHOW.
[7:38] YOU HAVE JUST LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
[7:41] YOU HAVE JUST LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
[7:43] YOU HAVE JUST LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
[7:45] YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF JUST LAYING BACK, SITTING BACK AND CHILLING.
[7:48] I WOULD LAY BACK AND WATCH THE SHOW.
[7:51] YOU?
[7:51] DONALD TRUMP CAN HANDLE YOU, BILL MAHR, YOU KNOW, ANY ALL COMERS.
[7:56] TRUE OR FALSE, DID HE ENJOY IT OR NOT?
[8:00] DID YOU THINK HE ENJOYED IT?
[8:01] OF COURSE HE HAD A GOOD TIME.
[8:04] ALL OF US DID.
[8:04] FIRST OF ALL, LET'S GIVE CREDIT.
[8:06] HE WAS INCREDIBLY HOSPITABLE.
[8:09] AND I GIVE HIM CREDIT.
[8:10] HE DID NOT DUCK ONE SINGLE QUESTION.
[8:14] BILL MAHR DID A LOT OF THE QUESTIONING.
[8:16] DID A LOT OF THE TALKING.
[8:17] IT WAS HIS DINNER.
[8:18] I WAS THERE.
[8:18] ONE LAST QUESTION.
[8:19] SCALE OF 1 TO 10, HOW FUNNY DO YOU THINK HE IS IN PERSON?
[8:26] SEAN, I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
[8:29] DO YOU KNOW WHY?
[8:30] I'VE KNOWN DONALD TRUMP FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
[8:33] WE JUST DIDN'T TALK OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
[8:35] HIS PERSONALITY IS HIS PERSONALITY.
[8:37] HE IS FUNNY.
[8:38] FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING THE SHOW THAT NEVER GET TO SPEND TIME WITH HIM,
[8:41] WHAT WOULD YOU GIVE HIM ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, 10 BEING THE FUNNIEST?
[8:44] DONALD TRUMP CAN BE HILARIOUS, BUT AT TIMES HIS HUMOR COMES THROUGH CRUELTY.
[8:51] GIVE ME A NUMBER.
[8:52] I GOT TO GO.
[8:53] SEVEN.
[8:54] BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CRUEL.
[8:58] HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CRUEL.
[8:59] THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO JOE BIDEN.
[9:02] WHY ARE YOU MESSING WITH JOE BIDEN?
[9:03] LET THE MAN REST IN PEACE.
[9:04] LET HIM GO HOME AND REST IN PEACE.
[9:05] LET THE MAN REST IN PEACE.
[9:07] ALL RIGHT.
[9:07] YOU JUST TOOK A BIGGER SHOT THAN DONALD TRUMP EVER TOOK.
[9:10] YOU BASICALLY SAY HE'S DEAD FROM THE NECK UP.
[9:12] NO.
[9:13] I'M STILLING.
[9:13] THE GUY I DON'T THINK KNOWS WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.
[9:16] I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT SINCE 2019.
[9:17] ALL RIGHT.
[9:18] STEVE.
[9:19] ALL RIGHT.
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