'Sinungaling'? Luistro, pinalagan si Sen. Robin Padilla — GMA News

[0:00] This is a hypothetical question, Your Honor. [0:42] You are not referring to any particular witness? [1:19] This is a hypothetical question, Your Honor. [1:21] This is a hypothetical question, Your Honor. [1:23] May I answer, Your Honor? [2:07] Apo, apo. [2:09] Kagaya po ng aking binigyang linaw kanina. [2:13] At paulit-ulit na rin pong sinabi ng ating presiding officer. [2:16] Pakisagot na lang po kasi yun lang po ang tanong. [2:20] Tama po ba o mali na tawagin sinungaling ang taong iba-iba ang sinasabi? [2:28] I'm sorry, Your Honor, but I need to qualify my answer. [2:33] Mr. Presiding Officer, isang simpleng tanong lang po. [2:40] The lead prosecutor may agree or disagree or state a different characterization. [2:45] I can state a different characterization if I'm asked by the good senator judge. [2:51] You may disagree or agree with the statement of the Honorable Senator Judge Padilla. [2:57] Feel free to say no or yes, counsel. [2:59] Kagalang-galang ng mga senator judges at sa atin pong mga nanonood na kababayan. [3:05] Dahil binanggit po ng kagalang-galang na Sen. Robin Padilla [3:10] ang pangalan at ang affidavit ni Arturo Lascañas [3:14] na isko pong linawin ang kanina ko pong manifestasyon. [3:18] Ito po ay ipredesenta sa impeachment court bilang bahagi ng testimonyo ng witness. [3:24] Hindi pa din po sinasagot. [3:26] Lead prosecutor, the response, it's not responsive to the question of Sen. Judge Padilla. [3:33] Allow me to, if the good Sen. Judge will allow the presiding officer, [3:37] Pwede ba natin sabihin, lead prosecutor, na ang testigong pabalik-pabago-bago [3:45] ang kanyang testimonya sa magkakaibang pecha o araw o panahon [3:50] ay isang testigong hindi maaasahan? [3:54] Without particular reference to Arturo Lascañas. [3:57] Sa pangkalahatan. [3:58] I agree with you, Honorable Presiding Officer. [4:01] Posible nagsisinungaling siya sa isa, nagsasabi ng totoo sa isa [4:05] o nagsisinungaling sa isa, nagsasabi ng totoo sa isa. [4:08] Hindi na natin malalaman yun. [4:10] Tama po ba yan? [4:11] Without particular reference to Arturo Lascañas, I agree with you, [4:15] Honorable Presiding Officer. [4:16] Maraming salamat po. [4:17] Aming ginoong kakapamahala po po. [4:19] You may proceed ng Sen. Judge Padilla. [4:20] Opo. [4:21] Kasi po, katulad po ng sinabi ng aming Sen. Judge 10,000 hours Pampilo Lakson, [4:32] napakaliwanag po ng sinabi niya. [4:34] At kami din po dito, ako po mismo, ay gumawa din ng panukala [4:40] na dapat yung mga nagsisinungaling dito, yung mga paiba-iba ng testimony na nagiging aming mga witness, [4:52] ay dagdagan dapat ang sintensa ng perjury. [4:55] Kailangan amendahan ang batas na yan. [4:59] Ngayon, bilang pakiusap po sa inyo, sa prosecution, [5:07] pwede po ba na sana ay maiwasan natin ang pagbibigay ng witness na may kasong perjury? [5:17] Hindi na po ito si Las Kanyas. [5:20] Ang sinasabi ko po ay yung dalawang mahal nating witness, [5:26] si Atty. Jeremy Lotok at si NBI Agent Kalilong, [5:34] na sa mga paoras na ito ay may kasong hinaharap na perjury. [5:38] Pwede po bang iwasan natin na may mga ganito tayong witness para [5:42] ang nasasakdal po kasi dito ay ibinoto ng 32 milyon na tao. [5:54] Sana po, aming mga mahal na kaibigan sa prosecution, [5:59] ay isipin natin mabuti bago po tayo magbigay ng mga witness [6:03] na may perjury na kaso. [6:07] O, nagkaroon po kami ng dahilan na gumawa ng amenda [6:15] na itong perjury ay amendahan. [6:20] Pwede po ba yun? [6:21] Your Honor, with all due respect, [6:24] I would like to take exception to the question and manifestation [6:27] of the Honorable Senator Judge Robin Padilla. [6:30] First of all, we were able to verify already [6:33] that there are no cases pending against the prosecution witnesses. [6:39] In addition, Your Honor, [6:41] and only to respond to the concern of the Honorable Senator Judge Padilla, [6:47] ang conviction po ay hindi ground for disqualification [6:50] unless it is final and unless it is punishable [6:55] by more than one year [6:57] and that the crime constitutes moral turpitude. [6:59] Alam niyo po, napakaganda po ng inyong sagot. [7:04] Sana, hindi one-sided ang ating persecution. [7:08] Kasi, alam niyo, pag kayo ang pagpabor sa inyo, [7:18] alam niyo, bawal po ang ginagawa. [7:21] Kindly maintain order within the court. [7:23] Ito ang ginagawa nito ang nasa harap natin, [7:26] nagkukome-komento. [7:27] Kindly maintain order in the court. [7:30] The sergeant at arms, by authority of the Senate President, [7:34] is directed to kindly maintain order in the court. [7:38] Hindi po sila allowed. [7:41] Mag-ingay. [7:42] Korte po ito. [7:46] Thank you. [7:47] You may proceed, Senator Judge Padilla. [7:48] Who was speaking? [7:50] Ako po. [7:51] You may proceed, Senator Judge Padilla. [7:52] I was interrupted. [7:54] With your apologies. [7:55] So, ibig niyo pong sabihin, [8:01] yung mga senator judges dito ngayon na humaharap sa kaso, [8:05] na hindi po pinapayagan ng ombudsman, [8:09] at hindi pa rin sila guilty, [8:12] ano pong ibig niyo sabihin? [8:16] Your Honor, with all due respect, [8:17] ang question niyo po kanina ay kaugnay ng pagtistigo. [8:22] Tistigo nga, [8:23] referring to the witnesses of the prosecution, Your Honor. [8:26] Ang usapan po ay yung guilty or not guilty. [8:32] Okay. [8:33] So, tatanong lang po ako ulang bago. [8:37] Pwede po ba? [8:38] May I be clarified, Your Honor, [8:39] on your last question about the senator you said are facing cases? [8:47] Lead counsel, I think that was more of a... [8:49] Alam niyo po, malinaw na po yung sinabi ko, [8:50] and wala po kayong karapatan magtanong, [8:54] the senator judge. [8:55] I think Senator Judge Padil was making a manifestation [8:59] and not posing a question to the lead prosecutor [9:01] in relation to our two colleagues. [9:05] You may proceed, Senator Judge Padil. [9:07] Maraming salamat po, [9:09] ginong tagapamahalang hukom. [9:13] Pwede na po ba tayong mag-advance ng katalungan? [9:19] Yes, Your Honor. [9:20] Apo. [9:23] Yung pong sinasabi ninyo, [9:26] bakit nyo po nababanggit ang ICC dito? [9:30] Ano po ang kinalaman ng ICC dito sa ating pagdinig? [9:36] With all due respect, Honorable Senator Judge Robin Padilla, [9:41] kagaya po nang nabanggit ko na, [9:45] at marahil pang limanang banggit ng presiding officer, [9:49] nabanggit po ang ICC, [9:51] kaugnay ng affidavit ni Las Cañas, [9:55] na ipirinisinta po ng prosecution [9:56] bilang bahagi lamang ng testimonya ng witness [10:01] at bilang bahagi ng naging investigasyon [10:05] ng Special Task Force ng NBI. [10:07] Maraming salamat po. [10:09] Senator Judge Padilla will please wind up. [10:12] You can avail of a second round if you wish. [10:14] Opo, opo. Maraming salamat po. [10:16] So, ibig pong sabihin, malinaw, [10:18] na kanina sinabi natin na hindi siya... [10:20] With the permission of Senator Judge [10:23] and the indulgence of Senator Judge Padilla, [10:25] what is the pleasure of Senator Judge Rafi Tulfo?