Rep. Marcoleta, sinabihan ng "not listening" ni Luistro sa paulit-ulit na pagtatanong — GMA News

[0:00] Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor. [0:05] Madam Sponsor, could you please identify the exact rule, resolution, order, or House authority [0:13] that allowed the Committee on Justice to conduct impeachment hearings during the adjournment of session? [0:19] Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, let us be reminded by the distinction between an impeachment process [0:30] vis-a-vis the legislative process, [0:34] the impeachment process is governed by Article 11 of the Constitution, [0:42] whereas the legislative process is governed by Article 6 of the Constitution. [0:50] Suffice it to state that there is entirely big difference between an impeachment process and a legislative process. [1:00] As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker, there is a different set of rules which govern the proceeding of impeachment [1:10] in the same manner that there is a different set of rules that govern our legislative process. [1:19] Mr. Speaker, in other words, my distinguished colleagues, [1:24] the impeachment process is not governed by breaks and recess. [1:32] And to validate that, Mr. Speaker, the House of Representatives, [1:37] before the break, before the start of the proceeding before the Justice Committee, [1:44] even passed a resolution expressly authorizing the Justice Committee [1:49] to proceed with its hearing, to exercise the compulsory process, [1:55] and even to use the electronic mode of sending notices and documents. [2:02] Mr. Speaker, in conclusion, [2:05] there is nothing under the rule which prohibits hearing of the Justice Committee during recess. [2:14] It must be remembered, impeachment process is entirely different from the legislative process. [2:21] I submit, Mr. Speaker. [2:23] So, Madam Sponsor, wala pong maipakita na dokumento ang distinguished sponsor [2:32] authorizing the committee to conduct hearings during adjournment. [2:37] Mr. Speaker, if I may continue, [2:41] it seems to this representation that the Honorable Gentleman is not listening. [2:46] I have cited already that the House of Representatives passed a resolution. [2:52] Order, please. Silence. [2:54] That's why I'm asking for a resolution. Give me the copy. [3:00] May I request for a 30-second suspension? [3:04] Madam Sponsor, distinguished Mr. Speaker. [3:28] Session resumed. [3:29] May I be recognized, Mr. Speaker? [3:32] Before that, Majority Leader, I'd like to remind the people in the gallery, [3:36] please observe strict silence. [3:40] Majority Leader. [3:41] Mr. Speaker, ganyan din po ang karanasan ko sa kumite. [3:45] Meron din audience participation. [3:47] May palakpakan, may hiyawan din po. [3:49] Kaya hindi na po bago sa akin itong ginagawa ng mga hakot ng mga audience na ito. [3:56] Anyway, Mr. Distinguished... [4:00] Representative Marcoleta, Majority Leader. [4:03] Mr. Speaker, to address the request of the Honorable Marcoleta, [4:09] may I request that the Secretary General be directed to provide the Honorable Marcoleta, [4:13] a copy of the relevant plenary resolution, authorizing the conduct of hearings. [4:19] Secretary General, please provide the necessary corresponding copies. [4:24] Please proceed, gentlemen. [4:26] And if I may read Article 11, Section 3, Paragraph 2 of the Constitution. [4:33] A verified complaint for impeachment may be filed by any member of the House of Representatives [4:37] or by any citizen upon a resolution or endorsement by any member thereof. [4:41] which shall be included in the Order of Business within 10 session days [4:45] and referred to the proper committee within 3 session days thereafter. [4:51] The committee, after hearing, and by a majority vote of all its members, [4:57] shall submit its report to the House within 60 session days [5:02] from such referral together with the corresponding resolution. [5:06] The resolutions shall be calendared for consideration by the House [5:10] within 10 session days from receipt thereof. [5:14] Doon po sa paragraph na binasa po, [5:16] apat na beses pong binanggit ang session days. [5:21] Wala pong binanggit na pwedeng mag-hearing [5:25] ang impeachment, ang committee on justice [5:29] habang naka-adjourn ang both houses. [5:33] Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, [5:37] for purposes of our records, [5:41] I am reading from the House Resolution No. 892, [5:46] the title of which, [5:48] Resolution authorizing the House Committee on Justice [5:51] to implement Section 8 of the Rules of Procedure [5:55] in Impeachment Proceedings [5:57] relating to the protection of complainants and witnesses [6:01] and further authorizing the committee [6:05] to continue the conduct of impeachment proceedings [6:07] and the exercise of ancillary powers [6:11] during the recess of the House of Representatives [6:13] from 21 March 2026 to 3 May 2026. [6:21] It is respectfully submitted, [6:22] Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, [6:24] that all the proceedings before the Justice Committee [6:27] is within the ambit expressly provided [6:31] by the House of Representatives [6:32] in Resolution No. 892. [6:37] Majority Leader. [6:38] Mr. Speaker, just to further assure [6:40] the Honorable Mark Coleta [6:41] that everything was done [6:43] in accordance with our rules [6:44] and with due process, [6:46] we did not adjourn SINIDIE. [6:49] We are still on our first regular session. [6:52] That is why the plenary can authorize the committee [6:55] to conduct their hearings if necessary. [6:58] That's all, Mr. Speaker. [7:00] Mr. Speaker, Representative Mark Coleta, [7:03] please wrap up your three minutes is up. [7:05] I'm still not furnished a copy. [7:07] Please wrap up your three minutes is up. [7:10] Let me go to my next question. [7:13] Madam Sponsor, [7:14] when this case is elevated to the Senate, [7:18] Mr. Speaker, [7:19] is the House asking the Senate [7:21] to try the verified complaints as filed [7:24] or the broader record [7:25] developed by the committee [7:27] during the hearings? [7:31] Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, [7:32] based on our rules [7:35] and based on the Constitution, [7:37] it is not the impeachment complaint, [7:40] but instead, [7:42] the articles of impeachment [7:43] that was approved by the Justice Committee, [7:46] which upon approval [7:47] of the House of Representatives [7:49] will be transmitted to the Senate. [7:52] Consequently, Mr. Speaker, [7:55] the basis of the trial [7:56] is not the impeachment complaint, [7:58] but the articles of impeachment. [8:00] Which brings me to the follow-up question. [8:04] Madam Sponsor, [8:05] can you confirm for the record [8:07] whether every factual allegation [8:09] in the articles of impeachment [8:10] appears in the verified complaints [8:12] or in their attachment [8:14] and not merely in testimony [8:16] or documents later introduced [8:18] during the committee hearings? [8:21] Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, [8:24] we confirm [8:24] that the contents of the articles of impeachment [8:27] are consistent to the contents [8:30] of the impeachment complaints [8:31] which were deliberated upon [8:34] before the Justice Committee. [8:36] We have to consider as well [8:37] that under the rules, [8:39] notwithstanding the fact [8:41] that the evidence [8:41] is not attached to the complaint [8:43] so long, [8:44] so long as it is relevant [8:46] to the impeachment complaint, [8:48] the same is allowed [8:49] by the rules of impeachment. [8:52] Representative Marcoleta, [8:54] your time is up. [8:55] Your three minutes is up. [8:56] Evidence may support [8:57] a pleaded charge, [8:59] but should not become [9:00] a substitute for a verified charge. [9:03] And let me go to my... [9:05] Your time is up. [9:06] Final question, Mr. Speaker. [9:08] Last question. [9:09] I'll allow you last question. [9:10] Madam Sponsor, [9:11] did the committee ever formally amend, [9:13] require amendment [9:14] of or authorize [9:17] supplementation of the verified complaints [9:19] to include factual matters [9:22] that emerged only during the hearings? [9:26] Mr. Speaker, [9:27] we are consistent [9:28] to the contents [9:30] of the impeachment complaint. [9:31] And if the honorable gentleman [9:33] is requiring [9:35] the Justice Committee [9:36] to make it as a parameter [9:38] that they should all be expressed [9:39] in the impeachment complaint, [9:41] then he is not aligned [9:43] to the rules of impeachment. [9:45] The rules of impeachment [9:46] expressly allow [9:47] even other relevant evidence, [9:51] which means, [9:52] notwithstanding [9:53] that they are not expressly mentioned [9:55] in the impeachment complaint, [9:57] so long as they are relevant, [9:58] they can effectively form part [10:00] of the Articles of Impeachment. [10:03] Majority Leader. [10:04] Thank you to the Honorable Mark Coleta. [10:07] Next on the list, Mr. Speaker, [10:09] please recognize [10:10] Representative Robert Nazal [10:12] for his... [10:13] Representative Robert Nazal [10:14] of party list. [10:15] Can I just make a closing statement? [10:16] BH is recognized. [10:20] Mr. Speaker, [10:21] may I request [10:21] the Honorable Mark Coleta [10:22] that he will have enough time [10:24] for more manifestations, [10:26] including his explanation of vote [10:28] afterward. [10:28] Thank you. [10:29] Thank you. [10:29] Thank you. [10:29] Thank you.