Sen. Raffy Tulfo, pinuna ang testigo ukol sa mga sagot nito sa impeachment trial — GMA News

[0:00] Senator Rafi Dulfo, you are recognized, sir. You may proceed. [0:03] Engineer, under oath ka, tama? [0:05] Yes, Your Honor. [0:06] And you know the consequence kapag ikaw ay nagsinungaling, if you're under oath? [0:09] Yes, Your Honor. [0:11] January 25, 2026, saan ka bumiyahe? [0:15] Yeah, Philippine. I confirm ko po sa opisina. Indeed, nag-travel po kami sa China. [0:22] Correct. [0:23] November 12, 2018, saan ka nagbiyahe? [0:28] Parang wala po akong record ng November 12. [0:30] Gusto mo pati CCTV footage kaya ko ibigay sa'yo eh? [0:34] November 12, 2018, PR-356, China. At two days ka lang sa China. [0:41] At ang dami mong biyahe, engineer. Meron kang Hong Kong, meron kang Thailand, Australia. [0:46] Hindi kita nilalaita, pero magkano bang sweldo mo para ikaw ay palagi nag-abroad, nakapag-abroad? [0:54] Ang sweldo po ng departmented is nasa 120,000, something like that, sir. [1:00] 20,000 a month. [1:01] 120,000. [1:02] And yet, noong 2023, pumunta ka ng Australia, nagbiyahe ka doon at tumagal ka ng konti. [1:09] Palagi ka ng bibiyahe. [1:10] You're correct. Your Honor. [1:12] Okay. Siguro baka kami nagregalo sa'yo, nag-sponsor, kaya ko nakapagbiyahe abroad. [1:18] Otherwise, with 20,000 sa pamasayan ng sa'yo plano, papuntang Australia, papuntang China, hindi na enough yun. Tama ba? [1:23] And then, I've heard na kasawa pang misis mo. I mean, may kasama kang relative na lang. Relative. [1:32] Pardon, sir? [1:32] May kasama kang relative pa ata, nung nagbibiyahe ka sa abroad. [1:37] Again, Your Honor, pakialit? [1:39] You've heard me once. I'm not going to repeat myself anymore. [1:42] Nag-isip ka habang nagsasalita ako. But anyway, sige, nagmamangang ka na lang. [1:47] So, in-admit mo na na ikaw ay nagbiyahe ng China. [1:50] Yes, Your Honor. [1:51] Very good. [1:55] Now, kanina sabi mo, commercial property, yung pinakita sa slides, prime bistro restaurant, that's commercial, right? [2:10] Pero why did you say na meron mga commercial ginagamit na residential? [2:15] So, magtatayo ka ng restaurant, and then hindi ka magtatanggap ng mga customer, pero yun ang magiging tulugan mo, yun yung tirahan mo. Is that what you meant? [2:25] If I can recall it right, Your Honor, yung picture po na pinakita, hindi ko po i-confirm kung yan ba ay yung subject ng property. [2:39] At yung sinabi ko po na may possibility, again, hindi po, ako sigurado ko yun yung subject ng discussion, ano? [2:46] But ang sinasabi ko po na may possibility na kahit po commercial building ang design, but pag ginamit po siya as residential, ang aming pong actual use will be residential. [3:02] Pakiulit, magpapatayo ka ng commercial building for commercial purposes, and yet gagawin mo residential dahil doon katitira at hindi mo gagamitin para sa negosyo? Is that what you say? [3:15] Meron pong pagkakataon ganun, Your Honor. [3:17] And who are these stupid people that would do that? [3:21] Na magpapatayo ka ng commercial establishments, and then hindi mo restaurant, that is, and then titirahan mo as residential. [3:29] You're not making sense. Anyway, let's continue. [3:31] Doon sa pinag-usapan natin na proper residential. [3:41] Ang land po? [3:42] Yes, land. [3:43] The land is classified now as residential. [3:48] Classified as residential. [3:49] So kung classified that as residential, bakit nakapagpatayo ng commercial building doon? [3:55] So for me, hindi magkapareho yung property na yun. [4:00] Sa inyo, sabi mo, declared as commercial, sa inyo, assessed as commercial. [4:06] However, diniclare ni Sarah Duterte, Vice President Duterte sa kanyang salin, as residential. [4:12] So hindi magkakatugma. [4:13] So those are two different animals. [4:18] Magkaiba po ang land classification for real property taxation versus the land use zoning classification. [4:28] Meron pagkakataon na magkaiba yung zoning classification versus dun sa ginagawang land classification ng city assessor. [4:37] Because ang basiyan po ng land classification for taxation purposes is the predominant use of the land, while the zoning classification is meron siyang anticipation. [4:51] Meron siyang sinasabing, in this area, ang future development niya will be commercial. [4:58] Okay. Last na naman, and I will address this to the setting of... [5:02] It's okay, Senator Judge Rafi, you can mind up with your question. [5:05] The best way para magkaalamanan, hindi na naman magkakalituan, and then para sa mga prosecution also. [5:10] Tutal, digitalized naman ngayon ang LRA. [5:13] So pwede naman tayong pumunta sa LRA at tatanungin, ano-ano mga properties meron under this person? [5:21] At lalabas at lalabas yun. [5:23] Kaysa naman nagdidebate pa tayo rito, we're going back and forth, para alamin kung ano yung mga properties na sa kanya, [5:29] at sinasabing hindi naman doon sa kanya, at iba yun. [5:31] Pero if we go to the LRA and have the LRA pull up all the properties under the name of a certain person, [5:39] under the name of B. Pissarro, under the name of Mark Scarpio, then it will be a lot easier. [5:44] Yun na. Maraming salamat po. [5:46] Thank you, Senator Judge Rafi. [5:48] Senator Judge, ay me. [5:52] You're recognized, ma'am. You may proceed when you're ready. [5:54] Just a few questions, presiding judge. Maraming salamat po. [6:00] Yes, engineer po. The prosecution has already pointed out na yung deed of sale covering the subject property [6:08] reflects a consideration of 6 million. Yun na nakasulat doon, 6 million. [6:13] At pinagdidiskitahan na nasa sal-end naman ni B. Pissarro, na yung property na yun, [6:20] covered by a deed of sale, has an acquisition cost that's declared in the sal-end na 10 million. [6:25] So, parang may discrepancy doon sa 6 million sa deed of sale at 10 million na dineklara sa sal-end. [6:33] Is it correct that the consideration stated in the deed of sale does not necessarily reflect, [6:39] hindi kinakailangan na identical yun doon sa total acquisition cost ng property [6:44] dahil may iba pang expenses na pwedeng ginastos para mabili yun. Tama ba yun? [6:51] I'm not actually aware, Your Honor. The requirement that we require from the real property owners [7:04] is just to provide the deed of sale. However, the valuation shall be based on our approved ordinance [7:13] prescribing the schedule of market values, Your Honor. [7:16] Oo, tinatanong ko lang kasi, dahil alam naman natin, yung reflection doon sa deed of sale, [7:22] minsan may kasunduan yung buyer at saka seller, di ba, na i-absorb yung sinasabi ni presiding officer [7:28] na capital gains na 6%, yung 1.5 na doc stamp tax, tapos may local transfer taxes, [7:34] baka tapos nun, marami pa, di ba, may legal fees pa kasi magta-title, magta-title search ka pa [7:40] kung ano-ano pang mga gastusin. At syempre, yung commission ng broker, alam na natin yun, di ba, [7:47] kung sino mag-aabsorb nun. So, ang sinasabi po ninyo, yung deed of sale, not necessarily, [7:54] na yun talaga yung complete total lahat na pasok na acquisition cost. Maaring mangyari yung dagdag. [8:00] That probably will happen, Your Honor.