Secretary Mullin and Secretary Duffy Brief Members of the Press on the FAA Ground Stop

[0:11] well good to see you guys again welcome to friday the 13th right um you know i i want to make sure [0:19] everybody understands that there is no connection between this and microsoft i know a lot of people [0:26] are making that jump uh this is um so far what we've seen there is actually no um cyber attack [0:37] we're still working through that process our teams are working this is what um the leadership of [0:44] president trump looks like by the organization and the team he's put together we're built to handle [0:50] crisis like this and that's exactly what we're doing we're moving at a unprecedented pace as a [0:59] whole of government to make sure that um we are doing the the um the public justice by making [1:07] sure everybody is safe which everybody is uh we are working with uh with the airports with the [1:13] communities with the cities the states to make sure those passengers that may find themselves in need [1:21] fema has activated their centers to make sure that there's no medication that is being missed if it [1:27] is we're going to have people for them to reach out to the airport has got a direct number to reach [1:34] out to us we can provide that medication for them working through the state so right now things seem to [1:42] be working as we can say in the right direction as you can see to uh to my right i have secretary sean [1:53] duffy who is here to provide the update on fema where we're at and where we're going once sean is [2:02] completed with his update then we will be happy to take take questions from everybody i just want to [2:07] reiterate this the public was never at danger through this process there was there was never any lives at [2:17] risk uh there was no flights at risk faa was able to handle it we did it out of an abundant of caution [2:26] but i do understand the internet traffic and where all these conspiracies start running towards [2:33] i just can't say this enough all your loved ones are safe we are working to resolve the issue and [2:40] uh we hope to have operations up and going at normal at some point so with that i'll turn it over to [2:47] secretary duffy thank you mark wayne and uh good night to everybody uh first want to thank you for [2:53] uh your partnership and assistance uh mark wayne uh it's been great uh stephen miller put together [3:01] all of the intelligence assets of the white house uh we were in multiple times talking to the president [3:06] about what was happening in the airspace uh complete engagement by president trump's team [3:12] uh so just i want to walk through what happened today so at 3 36 pm we experienced instability for [3:20] our radar and our communications and our centers and our tracons across the country so if you don't [3:25] know this at airports we have towers the next rung out is a tracon after that we have en route centers [3:33] the tracons and the centers we started to have inconsistency in the data from the radars and our [3:38] communication with uh with airplanes and we have procedures for this our pilots are well trained [3:45] our air traffic controllers are well trained and at that point we issued a ground stop we had over [3:50] 3 500 airplanes in the air they all engaged and last time i looked we had less than uh 400 in the [3:57] airspace uh as they were all coming in to safely land and we navigated it with uh our well-known [4:03] procedures uh that uh that we have when these incidents happen i'm going to talk about where [4:09] we're at now but before i do that uh when we shut down the airspace oftentimes there are critical [4:14] movements that have to take place whether it's medevac there's cargo operations that are moving [4:19] critical medicines that save people's lives we didn't lose all telecom we didn't lose all radar but that [4:25] instability because of abundance of caution and making sure we keep the american flyer safe we did [4:30] the ground stop but we were going to allow those life-saving uh movements to still occur as well as [4:36] with law enforcement as well so what happened right i've heard a lot of the rumors like mark wayne has [4:43] but what we have is an incredibly old air traffic control system i think every single one of your [4:49] networks have covered the president and myself talking about this for the last two years the [4:55] president for the last year has been asking congress to fully fund uh a full build of a brand new air [5:02] traffic control system so we have tdm uh telecom so this is analog telecom our switches uh our routers [5:12] actually got overloaded with data and they went down and uh i shouldn't say they went down they started to [5:18] give us inconsistency in the data from those uh from those routers and because of that we shut the [5:24] system down now i i have already replaced some of those switches with president trump and our new ip [5:31] switches did not go down it's the old hardware uh that went down and i think the question for the american [5:37] people is do you want your congress to fund this president trump has asked for the money uh he's asked the [5:45] congress on a bipartisan uh approach to say give us the resources to build a state-of-the-art air traffic [5:52] control system let's not do a patchwork uh a fix to a system that's critical for every single family [6:00] it's not red it's not blue it's not democrat it's not republican it's american give us the money to fix it [6:06] now if you look to the past administrations going back 25 years uh 15 billion dollars has been given to [6:13] the faa to fix this air traffic control system and guess what barely anything was done we had a [6:20] down payment uh president trump asked for it in the uh one big beautiful bill of 12 and a half billion [6:26] we are building in that 12 and a half billion dollars that portion of the build will be done [6:31] by the time president trump leaves office we are moving at a speed that has never been seen before [6:37] with regard to the faa but uh that's a partial funding i think america demands that the congress [6:44] give the rest of the resources to finish the build um and i think the congress at a point [6:52] looked to the history of the faa and said we don't trust you well with president trump and what we've [6:58] done i think they do trust because what we've done with that first tranche of money and so uh with a [7:05] brand new state-of-the-art system you won't have these outages so what you experience today but you can [7:10] think back many of you covered the story from a year and a half ago we had outages in newark multiple [7:14] outages in newark this is a continual problem that we have um and it should be fixed um and so [7:22] what we want to do um i've asked the president's asked for 30 billion dollars i want 50 billion [7:28] dollars and by the way if you look at how much money congressman's peter you've covered congress [7:32] they they waste a lot of money what's more important than having an air traffic control system that [7:38] actually works and so the president said you know what let's finish this job new hardware [7:45] new software new telecommunication uh many of our towers are almost 100 years old uh our air [7:52] traffic controllers have leaky roofs air conditioning that doesn't work they're high in the air their [7:56] elevators don't work their roofs leak um i want new towers uh we should also invest in many of the [8:03] airports around the country uh that frankly many of them are embarrassing let's get the money let's [8:09] invest so we never have to come at 8 30 at night and have a press conference on why air travel was [8:16] shut down why we have tens of thousands of people in airports uh separated from their families uh without [8:23] um with without uh any knowledge of where they're going to sleep tonight now you probably picked up that [8:28] uh we how we've identified the problem we've got our centers and our tray cons operational right now and so at [8:35] 8 15 tonight uh eastern time we've opened up the airspace now does that mean every flight is going [8:41] to fly right now it's going to be slow right so if if you're watching you're at an airport um check with [8:48] your airline uh it depends on do we have crews available do we have pilots and flight attendants [8:54] available to fly your flight we're going to try to move as many of those as we can tonight [8:58] if we have the capacity with crews to to move those flights if not we're going to start tomorrow [9:03] morning with our airline partners um moving those aircraft but it's going to take us some time to [9:09] unwind what's happened uh this afternoon uh finally with general aviation uh if we have uh aircraft that's [9:18] moving six people uh that's that's a lower priority but this weekend we we have movements of of aircraft [9:26] that uh our general aviation that might have uh 60 80 100 people on those aircraft we are going to give [9:33] those aircraft a priority uh so hopefully tomorrow we are going to start to see a far better movement [9:40] but um i'm going to we'll take your questions this is an emergency this is an emergency i want congress [9:47] to give us emergency funding this is bipartisan this is american i want 50 billion dollars president [9:54] trump is a builder he's going to build this network um and deliver for the american people but the [9:59] president can't deliver for america unless the congress delivers the money to make it happen [10:05] so with that we're happy to take questions uh peter secretary duffy what you're describing [10:11] routers overloaded with data that then start to show instability that sounds like something [10:17] that could be caused by a cyber attack can you say with 100 certainty that this was not [10:24] caused by a cyber attack or a rogue ai i'm going to give this to mark wayne all right we are there's [10:32] nothing completely certain right now it doesn't appear that way we are um we've activated our teams [10:39] this is what department whole land security is all about this is why we're stood up uh to have the [10:43] continuity of government to bring all the resources together in emergency like this this is exactly what [10:49] this is this is a national emergency we have all of our assets be it from dow to cissa to all of our [10:57] knocks then all the other components we have inside of dhs nsa is working with us there is nothing that [11:05] indicates it yet now when we start looking at cyber threats cyber attacks typically some people is going [11:11] to raise their hand up and say hey we did that there's no chatter we haven't seen any any footprints as [11:19] you would say or or or or uh identifications of people that got into the system it appears that [11:26] this was mechanically driven however we're still looking so we're not going to roll that out i want [11:32] to hit back on to what secretary duffy said with the with the funding this is a national security risk [11:41] we just saw what took place when we have vulnerabilities and we have old systems the president has declared [11:46] this a national emergency and now we have to have congress act and fund it this is vitally important [11:55] that we get this system built the president has said this secretary duffy has said this multiple times [12:00] our air traffic control system is outdated and it hasn't been a priority from congress and so it [12:06] this is this is what happens when congress kicks the can down the road but so when you say that you haven't [12:12] seen footprints suggesting a cyber attack and nobody's taking credit for a cyber attack have you seen [12:18] any evidence specifically can you tell people who are watching we have seen zero evidence we've seen [12:24] zero evidence uh that this was that this was a cyber attack or uh si attack so then it must be [12:32] something else what is the other thing what caused the instability so it's very easy we have old [12:39] uh old uh old switches old routers we use uh 1980s uh little copper lines it's an old system that went [12:49] down and went down everywhere it got overloaded so so uh what here right now we've opened up the airspace [12:57] we've got our centers and our tray cons operational uh it would be much and i don't want to rule out that [13:03] we didn't have nefarious activity here that's mark wayne and the uh cyber security team that works with us [13:10] we were able to uh deploy fixes to reduce the overloading on our on our um on our switches [13:19] that we're able to bring the networks back online and our tray cons and our centers back online so i think [13:24] our fix gives us a pretty good indication that it was a legacy uh network problem that went down and by [13:32] the way all of the new equipment that we put in none of that went down this is all the old legacy [13:38] equipment that's existed forever by the way none of your networks run on 1980 technology you all got [13:45] fiber state-of-the-art high-speed networks that that cover all of your stations but not the faa [13:52] i think the the american people deserve the same same kind of network that you all use the same kind [13:57] of connectivity and speed that you all use that's what we're asking the congress to give us [14:01] one question for each of you mr mullen are you able to completely rule out forward interference [14:08] and then mr duffy you're talking about old systems being to blame here the ground stop is lifted but [14:14] this is not going to get fixed overnight thousands of flights have been delayed thousands of flights [14:19] have been cancelled how can you assure the american people that it is going to be safe to fly and how long [14:25] what is it going to take for flights to be fully operational and back tomorrow so let's talk about [14:30] the cyber security once again we're still looking at it we're not uh ruling out anything what it appears [14:36] to be right now is as secretary duffy and fa was going in and putting patches into the system they were [14:43] putting new equipment um and uh new technology and that new equipment new technology just wasn't it was [14:53] overwhelming the older system which is why secretary duffy made it very clear the patchwork doesn't [14:59] work we need one complete system we need someone to come in and build the whole system doing it nickel [15:06] and diamond together does not work this is what happens when that takes place that's why the president [15:11] has made it very clear we can't do this it has to be a complete overhaul of the system which we estimate [15:18] to be about 50 billion dollars however out of abundance of caution we are still going to do [15:25] everything we can to rule it out if that changes we will let you know but it doesn't appear right now [15:31] that that was that this was anything to do but with technology so to answer your question this is not [15:36] going to get done overnight you're right um but when do you want to start it america when do you want to [15:41] start building a brand new system uh well you have you have a team with president trump that actually is [15:47] building it right now but we don't have full funding and so i think there's no better time than the [15:53] present to actually give us the money and let us finish the build what went down was old right it was [16:00] the old legacy equipment it failed and listen it's going to continue to fail but my number one job is [16:07] america's safety that is my that is that is that that is my that is my first charge and so if you look [16:14] at what happened today we had a failure uh and what happened we effectively and safely got aircraft out [16:22] of the airspace right and sometimes people will complain why did you shut the airspace down and some [16:27] we just had an incident a couple uh a couple months ago in new york where that system went down there's a [16:32] telecom issue we will shut the system down i want you to fly safely if you miss your if you miss a [16:38] baseball game you miss a wedding i care about you getting there um in in uh without any harm and so [16:47] again this is a time you have a builder president we can play politics by the way play politics all [16:52] you want on all kinds of issues that's great and there's a lot of issues to play politics on [16:56] this is not one of those issues this is an american issue an american build with an american president [17:01] that knows how to do it sir thank you will this cascade to thanksgiving travel plans for college [17:09] students coming home do you expect to see delays cancellations even though we're days out that's [17:13] a great question um so i i believe that it's going to take us uh some time to get back uh to capacity [17:21] and and then get people who uh were disrupted over the course of the last eight hours to get them [17:27] back to their destination so we're going to have some makeup to do i would imagine a lot of my kids [17:31] are flying next friday back from college i imagine that's when a lot of kids are flying and everyone [17:35] starts their thanksgiving travel which by the way is a very busy time for travelers i think we're going [17:40] to be back up and operational uh as we come into the to the heat um of travel during thanksgiving and [17:47] one more you said earlier you mentioned medical flights organ transplants are still being flown across [17:52] the country yes we don't we don't we don't stop those because because it wasn't a complete outage it was [17:57] just we were getting um varying degrees of of of um of our inputs from radar and from uh from uh from [18:06] uh from telecom we were able to still fly those flights safely and we understand uh people's lives [18:11] are in the in in basically in the hands of these flights being able to get from point a to point b so [18:16] we were allowing those to go as well as law enforcement the tanker river mesh today down in new [18:21] orleans i mean uh terrible i'm sure you saw the video do you have any idea how that happened and [18:26] that tinker runs right to the side of it what are you learning that's the coast guard yeah um this [18:32] looks like it was a engineer um major internet engineering uh defect that took place uh during [18:39] either they hit the bridge or something something um caused the ripple effect i do want to announce so [18:46] um by the grace of god we have not lost one soul uh there was 195 souls on on board all 195 souls are [18:56] accounted for 32 um are at the hospital uh we're still in various conditions but my last report was there [19:04] was no um critical conditions that was taking place so just a just an absolute miracle there but once again [19:15] not connected at all that was that was something that took place [19:22] in the run-up you know mr secretary you were having a war against iran was there any input at [19:27] all uh beyond this incident that there were iranian elements or any other elements who may be [19:34] no we're not we're not we're not seeing that we're not seeing that all yes thank you guys for your [19:38] coordination about this emergency um speaking of college of which industry that relies on travel to [19:42] again is college football have you guys been in communication with these universities and do you [19:47] plan to implement historic coordination there yeah so as i mentioned we're going to allow for general [19:52] aviation those uh larger movements to take place as a priority smaller movements uh will will take a [19:59] lower priority and so if you talk about football teams moving uh many of those are on charters and [20:04] there's a lot of individuals on those charter planes so i would encourage those football teams to reach out [20:09] to the faa to schedule their flight times and make sure they can move to make sure we have games going off [20:18] tomorrow thank you thank you cameron from town hall has there been any communication with the major [20:26] commercial airlines and then can you just clarify what rights do passengers have right now i know you [20:31] mentioned fema but what other rights yes so uh we are in communication with all of our airline partners [20:37] uh we're making them aware uh as soon as we can with what the issues are right because they're also [20:42] concerned was this cyber what what took place where we had a ground stop um and one mark wayne and [20:49] our uh and our airlines are navigating the passengers uh who are stranded in airports uh but we work fully [20:56] with them uh as we come back online and what what planes um we can move uh as quickly as possible to get [21:03] people to their final destinations uh and this is one of those scenarios where this is not the fault of [21:08] the airline right this is again there's i'm happy to blame the airlines i'm happy to blame the weather [21:14] but i'm also happy to take the blame when it's with uh the faa and air traffic control and this is [21:20] a legacy system problem that took place tonight and um we have to handle it accordingly thank you sir [21:27] just describe how this manifested in the air today were airplanes still able to communicate with air [21:34] traffic controllers how did it specifically impact that and separately do you have any sort of an [21:39] estimate at this point of the economic impact of this stoppage you know where that goes from here [21:44] so uh we had intermittent communication and intermittent uh radar and which is why we then shut the [21:53] airspace down so it wasn't a complete uh blackout in communication or radar uh so we were able to [21:59] keep some of those communications going but when you when you have issues and you can't immediately [22:03] communicate and immediately see where aircraft are at that's a risk that we're unwilling to tolerate [22:09] in regard to economic consequences of what happened today it's i think it underscores how important [22:14] aviation is to our economy we haven't done a calculation uh we've been i got off and i was on the airplane [22:19] an airplane from dallas when this happened hence my attire um and haven't gone to change so i apologize [22:25] for wearing a jacket and jeans with you um there'll be time to do an economic analysis but this is [22:31] critical for the american economy which is why the congress i'm going to say it a million times the [22:36] congress has to give the resources to the president so we can finish this bill just to be clear to [22:44] follow up that means there were times when airplanes and air traffic controllers were not [22:48] communicating with each other at all so that can happen yes and what happened we have we have a [22:53] that's a big safety risk well we have emergency procedures in place if this happens pilots know [22:59] what to do and air traffic controllers know what to do um and whether it's systems on airplanes that [23:04] are still operational it's still communication uh though not um not consistent we're able to [23:11] navigate the airspace and as you saw today we systematically but slowly brought down 3 500 plus [23:18] aircraft um safely across the national airspace which i want to give credit to the pilots and to our [23:23] air traffic controllers who are very well trained and know how to navigate this situation are you [23:29] saying that it was the fa patching a system that caused this outage is that something that's happening [23:36] constantly so yeah that's i want to clarify that this is our old tdm analog system that got overloaded [23:48] with data and started to experience these issues and it was in our tray cons and our centers throughout [23:54] the nas now we do have some uh in our tray cons and centers that have been upgraded to um to digital [24:02] to ip those do not experience these issues which underscores the point it's important that we're [24:09] able to finish this work with additional resources be confident that this vulnerability won't be an issue [24:15] again in the coming weeks if what today took place happened and it's still a problem this is a great [24:21] question so listen um i can't i can't build things if i don't have money like this is this is this is a [24:27] great question that you ask how can america be confident well we do everything whether we have [24:32] the we have the busiest airspace in the world bar none we have the safest airspace in the world bar [24:37] none no one competes with us on safety or complication of the airspace but if you ask the question [24:42] what should we do well we should talk to our senators and our members of congress to say we [24:47] don't we don't deserve this america we this is the greatest country by the way with the greatest [24:51] president let's give the money to fix this very real problem and this is not the first time we had [24:57] this happen in new york when we had all global leaders were flying in for the u.n we had a similar [25:03] issue we had uh an issue in in newark it happened twice how many times does this have to happen before [25:10] congress gives the money to fix it but the trump administration has been in office for all two [25:16] years now sir so why hasn't this been a bigger priority for the president republicans controlled [25:19] both chambers of congress and still do what would not work let me see so maybe you haven't covered [25:26] the um 100 plus press conferences that i've done on this issue uh that have been uh led by the president [25:34] but i know fox has peters secured the story i know many of you have covered the story about [25:38] the president's ask and my ask to get the money right and so i i identify i i identify well because [25:46] the congress has to give it to us right and you need it you need it well oftentimes it's a great point [25:52] oftentimes you need um a bipartisan vote right so i did get partial funding through one big beautiful bill [26:00] i got 12 and a half billion and with that money we are we are we are spending it and spending it well [26:06] but the congress at the time knew that um that was not going to be enough by the way i i this is [26:13] bipartisan but on that bill i didn't have democrats that voted for it we now have an opportunity in an [26:18] emergency funding bill before the end of the year to give the money and i think the question should be [26:23] from nbc to every member do you support actually modernizing making a state-of-the-art air traffic [26:30] control system and it's going to take us some time i can't snap my fingers and build a network overnight [26:35] but do you want us to build this for america and i think every member of congress should say yes but [26:41] every american i guarantee you would tell those members yes give president trump give duffy the [26:46] money let them finish this job so we don't have to do a press conference at 8 30 at night ever again [26:54] sir by your building the new system is it safe to fly how what how do we know this isn't going to [26:59] happen again tomorrow when you bring in new patches so so this is this is the safest system in the world [27:05] and by the way it hasn't been done in the past because it is complicated this is i don't want to [27:10] lie to anybody this is what we're doing is hard and it hasn't happened in the past because it is hard [27:15] but i'll tell you by doing nothing you inject way more risk into the system right to use 1980s technology [27:24] 1990s software to use 1970s radar that we don't make parts for anymore to have an old network an old [27:34] network configuration uh from the 80s versus re-networking uh the air traffic control system [27:41] through the faa i believe that should be a priority and we our number one our number one mission when [27:47] we do any of this is safety but if you do nothing the system doesn't get more safe it gets less safe [27:55] and so i would say america congress let's make this system more safe let's continue to lead we led the [28:01] world in aviation we led in the jet age we've led in space let's continue to lead with a state-of-the-art [28:09] a system that no one has that's the best in the world but that takes cash [28:16] of the old system and what kind of ins and outs there why wasn't the agency prepared for some kind [28:23] of catastrophic failure like they saw today well i can't anticipate every catastrophic failure that [28:29] will have that will happen with a tdm network with an analog network but shouldn't there have been [28:33] a backup plan in place in case this network failed you knew it was an old system you were trying to [28:37] replace to keep people in the air so uh i didn't anticipate that we would have an outage like this [28:46] we've had small outages that i've mentioned previously we didn't think we would have this kind of [28:52] outage uh we did and what i would tell you is the systems that were deployed kept everybody safe [28:59] everyone landed we're able to review what went wrong and then reboot the system and go but uh you will [29:06] have more of these you will have more of them unless you the the american people in the congress tell us [29:12] to build and i i can't wait for that you say this is the priority for president trump why have we not [29:17] heard from him at all on this issue says it happened oh well i we the two of us have talked to him he is [29:23] he is in i've talked about the phone i've talked to him in to in the in the oval so is mark wayne [29:28] oh i don't run the president's comms i just know that mark wayne and i are going to come out and [29:32] talk to you about it but i know he's fully engaged because he has communicated with the both of us [29:37] multiple times uh from the point that it happened uh to moments before i came out i was in constant [29:43] communication mark wayne and i were in the oval with him which by the way i appreciate his [29:46] leadership and what's he what's just unique about the president is he loves aviation um he loves [29:52] the airspace and which is why he has been so engaged on this um he understands it very well [29:59] and he he's been frustrated from my first before i actually was sworn in he was talking about how old [30:04] the system is how past administrations had failed and how he wants to fix the air traffic control [30:11] system in america and deliver the best in the world and it takes the president's leadership like [30:16] president trump to make sure we can ask the congress and get the money and give the deliverables [30:22] thank you mr secretary i'm curious i don't think we have clarity yet what was different about today [30:26] specifically the system has been in place for a long time why did today the system go out and [30:32] can you give more clarity you're saying this will happen again should americans feel safe when they fly [30:37] if these outages are still possible in what kind of vintage you'll have it happen again i don't know [30:41] right is this exact thing going to happen again i don't i don't know that this exact scenario will [30:47] happen but i did have new york a couple months ago i had new work a year and a half ago um so uh [30:54] we're still working on the details of what went wrong today uh i'll i'll be happy to give you more [31:00] information when we have it i don't want to give you the wrong information our team is working overtime uh [31:06] trying to navigate uh what what happened here what was the cause and how do we prevent it in the [31:13] future should similar situations arise so doing the ai program you guys just introduced the smart [31:17] program from the faa so uh as i mentioned this is all the old legacy equipment uh all of the new [31:25] equipment that's been deployed did not go down uh our smart system which is a system that we have a feed [31:30] for the whole airspace that's going to help us better manage trajectories of airplanes and better [31:35] manage weather so we can one drive safety in the airspace and drive efficiency in the airspace [31:42] but that smart system isn't plugged in uh to stars and e-ram uh it's not this is this is completely [31:49] disconnected and i love that some people have said this would be the root cause by the way if it was i'll [31:54] tell you that but uh this is not even plugged in what this does is gives information um from the [32:00] airspace to a human being and gives them a prompt on how they could better navigate weather or [32:06] trajectories then the human being will actually decide to accept or deny that prompt so we're not [32:11] even tied in so there's no possible way smart would have impacted what happened today you said today that [32:17] there was no one in any danger i'm curious for people who are frustrated right now about the fact [32:22] that their flights been delayed or canceled why was there a ground stop put in place for five hours [32:26] if no one was in any danger well let me let me explain that one very easy uh no one was in danger [32:33] because procedures we put in place the system went down we reacted the way that we were trained to react [32:40] and everybody came together president trump immediately had had people in his office we were [32:45] communicating uh secretary duffy the faa took immediate actions that they had put in place [32:51] uh to to assure everybody was safe and that's why you saw we had as secretary duffy had said we had [32:57] over three thousand flights in the air we had a ground stoppage and they were all able to land safely [33:04] even with the communication problems and i just can't speak enough about president trump's leadership [33:10] this is what president trump does he puts leaders in place um and he allows them to lead [33:16] uh to even ask you know why is the president not talking it's because he's allowed secretary duffy [33:23] and us to go out there and explain to you what took place president trump trump's trust trust his [33:29] leadership and that's why we really lean in towards his leadership and when secretary duffy said he's the [33:35] greatest president we've had you've never had a builder and a leader like president trump lead this [33:41] nation have a vision and put the put the team together um thank you guys so much appreciate it