Raffy Tulfo hits 'live selling' that happened during Marcoleta Blue Ribbon probe with 18 'kargador'

[0:00] Mr. Chair, it took all my energy to not to gatecrush the live selling that happened here last June 4. [0:09] The way it happened, the way it was handled, the statements being made. [0:14] I really wanted to go here, but I wasn't invited to that conference. [0:20] I waited for today's hearing to confront the resourceful persons they presented. [0:25] Let me call on them 18 carriers. [0:30] First, who are these 18 carriers? [0:43] Where are they? [0:46] We cannot simply bring in people to the Blue Ribbon Committee [0:49] who are telling them to be strong and strong, [0:52] that they do not know whether they should believe it. [0:57] Kasi, simulang-simula pa lamang po na tinawag silang 18 Marines, may paglilin lang na agad. [1:06] Yung bansag na 18 Marines ay isang paraan upang pabanguhin sila sa publiko. [1:12] Matik po kasi yan. [1:13] Pag sinabing Marines, aba, iba po ang respeto ng mga tao. [1:19] Pero hindi naman po silang lahat ay dating Marines. [1:21] At mahigit kalahati sa kanila ay discharged without honors or dishonorably discharged from service for various offenses. [1:31] Ibig sabihin, palpak sila. [1:34] Tulad na pagiging able o absent without leave. [1:39] Why is this information very important? [1:42] Because for people to believe their allegations, it must come from a credible and reliable source. [1:48] And so, the people using them portray them as heroes. [1:54] God damn. [1:55] Sabi nga ng isa sa mga senador na dumalun nung araw na yon, [1:59] bayani daw po sila. [2:02] Pero nangakaya naman po sila sa iba nating mga bayani. [2:07] Na itong labing walong kargador, na ilang taong nagtrabaho kay Saldico, [2:12] may seven years at nine years, [2:14] at nagbitbit daw, sabi nila, [2:17] ng sangkatutak ng maleta ng pera. [2:20] At bigla na lang, tinubuan ng konsensya, [2:25] at ngayon ay naninira lang buhay ng mga inusenteng tao, [2:29] ay tatawagin nating bayani. [2:33] Pasensya na. [2:34] Hindi ako papayag na matabi ang mga sinungaling neto [2:37] kila Jose Rizal, Andres Bonifacio, [2:41] at mga dakila nating OFWs. [2:44] At dito papasok ang Pangulo kong punto. [2:47] Hindi lang po ang kredibilidad ng labing walong kargador ang kaduda-duda. [2:51] Ang mismong testimonya nila ay nakakapagtaka. [2:56] Lumabas na po ang ilan sa mga ito sa balita. [2:59] Pero pasadaan lang po natin. [3:02] Let me show some video clips of the hearing. [3:05] Video 1. [3:06] Si Father Flabi ay hinatiran ko ng pera doon sa Mindanao Ab. [3:17] Isang sobre yun, sir. [3:18] Anong lugar po yun? [3:20] Sa Mindanao Ab, sa mismo simbahan niya, sir. [3:22] Sa may gilid ng kalsada. [3:24] Bakit po kayo nagdala ng pera doon sa pare? [3:29] Kasi, sir, pang... [3:31] Hindi ko ano, sir. [3:32] Ong pangano nila yun, sir. [3:33] Basta nagdala na kami ng pera, sir. [3:35] Tapos doon sa 33... [3:38] Maleta din ba? [3:39] Hindi nalam mo? [3:39] Ah, isang sobre, sir. [3:41] Tapos doon, sir, sa 33 Clemente... [3:44] Baka naman sulat lang pinadala kayo sobre. [3:45] Hindi, sir, pera, sir. Kita ko mismo, sir. [3:47] Tapos sa 33 Clemente, sir, isang ano, isang maleta. [3:52] Kanino? [3:53] Kay Father Flabi, binuwat ko papunta sa sakyan niya. [3:56] Tapos yung soot niya, sir, itim na pangpare. [3:59] Sagot naman ni Diocese of Cabao Bishop Elias Ayuban Jr., [4:03] there is no church entrusted to the Society of the Divine Word [4:07] on Mindanao Avenue or anywhere in its vicinity. [4:11] Dawa, iPhone time travel. [4:20] 2024 pa lang, wala pang iPhone 616E noong 2024. [4:26] Mutok yung flood control po, 2024. [4:33] Nakapagsalitan na po dito si Master Sergeant Orly Gotiza. [4:36] Ngayon, maraming nagliligaw sa amin na... [4:42] Ano po? Ano po? [4:43] Nililigawan po kami na hindi na po kami magsalita. [4:46] Yung lahat ng cellphone po namin, ibibigay po sa kanila. [4:51] Sa anong dahilan? [4:53] Papalitan po ng mga bago po, iPhone po. [4:58] Ano bang klase yung mga cellphone nyo? Nokia? [5:00] iPhone 16. [5:03] Papalitan nila ng mas maganda? [5:04] Yes, sir, or not. [5:05] Alam ninyo yung dahilan kung ba't nila gagawin yun? [5:08] Kasi nandun yung mga picture namin nyo. [5:10] Anong klase yung cellphone para ma-record? [5:12] iPhone 16E 128GB. [5:16] Nang i-check ng News 5 sa mismong website ng Apple, [5:19] lumalabas na February 21, 2025 [5:22] ang pre-order na naturang model [5:23] na sinasabi ng Bagman sa hiri. [5:26] Ang atlo, pinili na impormasyon. [5:33] Ano ang nangyari sa pagpapalabas ng katotohanan? [5:36] Kung pinipili lang nila kung sino ang ilalabas. [5:39] Malinaw ang detalya nila sa una nilang affidavit [5:42] tungkol sa mga maletang dinala sa ilan namin kasamahan dito [5:45] na may address pa. [5:47] Pero bakit parang mirakulo na naglaw ang narratibo [5:51] tungkol dito? [5:52] Sa ulit niya natilibit nung mga dating sundalo, [5:57] nandun din si Sen. Loren daw [5:59] at saka yung magkapatid na billiards. [6:01] Ngayon po lang nakita yung affidavit. [6:03] I have not read, etc. [6:10] Pangapat, [6:11] aking pinasilip ang lugar na yun sa Makati. [6:14] Video 4. [6:15] Money changing. [6:18] Nag-advise po si boss, [6:19] magpapalit kami ng piso to dollar na dalawang maleta [6:22] doon sa Makati po. [6:24] Bibili kayo ng US dollar? [6:27] Yes, yes our honor. [6:28] Dinala po namin ito sa Pearl Bank, Makati, [6:31] Salcedo Village po. [6:33] Dalawang maleta, [6:34] worth of 50 to 60 M po ang laman. [6:42] Aking pong pinasilip, [6:44] ang lugar na yun sa Makati [6:45] at walang record ng money changer [6:47] sa Pearl Bank building. [6:49] Dapat po makumpirma ito. [6:51] At syempre, [6:52] nandyan din po ang mga kadudadudang testimonya nila [6:54] labang kay Sen. Soto [6:55] na pinabulaanan niya [6:57] na dahil nga matagal ng patay [6:59] ang sinasabi nilang [7:00] si E.A. Mark [7:03] or Executive Assistant Mark. [7:06] At ang pangbawi nila ng allegasyon [7:08] tungkol kay Representative Laila D. Lima [7:10] na noong mga panahon na yun [7:12] ay hindi pa kongresista [7:13] at nakakulong pa. [7:15] At sabi niyong Busman Boyeng Rimulya, [7:17] ang isang letrato [7:19] ay delivery na nangyari [7:21] ng panahon ni Speaker Lord Velasco pa. [7:25] And so I come to my third point [7:27] because it seems that [7:28] some of the information from these [7:30] 18 porters or kargador [7:32] are fed. [7:34] They have a hard time telling their story [7:36] on their own. [7:38] Kung papanawin mo ang live selling nila [7:39] noong Webes, [7:41] hirap silang ikwento [7:43] ang kanilang naratibo. [7:45] The presiding officers [7:46] of that conference [7:47] were coaching [7:48] and leading the resourceful persons. [7:51] Pag medyo nagkakamali, [7:54] siyempre, [7:56] inaayos ng mga presiding officers [7:58] ang testimonya. [7:59] Minsan, [8:00] si Atty. Baligod na [8:01] hindi naman involved [8:02] sa pagbitbit ng malita [8:03] ay siyang tumitistigo [8:06] tungkol sa nangyari. [8:07] E wala naman siyang personal knowledge. [8:11] Ikaapat na punto, [8:12] nais ko pong humingi ng dispensa [8:13] sa ating mga Senate Media. [8:16] Bilang broadcaster [8:17] at kasapi na media, [8:20] masakit po [8:21] tuwing nababansagan [8:23] ang ilan sa atin [8:23] na bayaran [8:24] kasi nasisira po [8:26] ang profesyon natin. [8:28] Pero itong [8:29] pagsisigawan [8:30] na bayaran [8:30] ng karamihan sa atin [8:31] dito sa lugar [8:33] na tinawag nyo [8:34] ng tahanan [8:35] at buong puso nyo [8:36] pinuprotektahan [8:37] sa pamamagitan [8:38] na makatotohan [8:39] ng pagpapayag [8:39] ay tatawagin kayong bayaran. [8:43] Hindi po tama yun. [8:44] This institution [8:45] time and time again [8:46] owes you its dignity [8:47] because you keep [8:49] the senators [8:49] on their toes [8:51] and make sure [8:52] we stay true [8:53] to the Filipino people. [8:56] At kay Senator Cayetano, [8:58] huwag po tayo [8:58] masyadong demanding. [8:59] Ano po, [9:01] itong magreklamo [9:01] na wala ka sa front page, [9:04] limited pong front page space [9:05] ng mga dyaryo. [9:08] Kaya pililan po talaga [9:09] ang nalalagay dyan. [9:12] Pero hindi ibig sabihin [9:12] hindi na sila patas. [9:14] Dahil kung titignan mo [9:15] naman online, [9:17] all these news outlets [9:19] reported his statement. [9:21] It is in their online platform. [9:24] Kung saan [9:25] libu-libu ang nagbabasa. [9:27] The front page is reserved [9:28] for the biggest [9:28] and latest news. [9:31] Yun, [9:31] bang bagong kaganapan. [9:34] Yun po kasing [9:35] pagkapit sa kapangirian [9:36] at hindi pagtanggap [9:37] sa pagkatalo nyo, [9:39] lumambalita na po. [9:41] But nevertheless, [9:43] it was reported upon. [9:44] I-google nyo po yun. [9:46] And, [9:47] my fifth point, [9:49] we have to look into [9:49] the allegation [9:50] na nabayaran ng [9:52] limang milyon [9:52] ang labing walong [9:54] kargador. [9:56] I'm not saying it's true. [9:57] Hiharap po ng NBI [9:58] itong witness nila [9:59] na nagsabi noon. [10:01] Pero ang masasabi ko lang, [10:03] ginamit lang kayo [10:04] ng mga malalaking tao [10:05] para sa mga personal [10:07] nilang interest [10:07] sa politika. [10:09] Kulang yung 5 million. [10:12] Kunwari, [10:12] inanalayan nila kayo. [10:14] Pero pagharapin nyo [10:16] na itong sangkatutak [10:17] na kaso [10:18] na isasampa sa inyo, [10:20] nitong mga siniraan ninyo, [10:22] tingnan nyo, [10:23] unti-unti [10:23] kayong iwan yan. [10:26] Ngayon pa lang, [10:27] nainig mo na sila [10:27] na nagugas kamay [10:29] sa mga paratang nyo. [10:30] Dumidistansya sila [10:31] sa inyo dahan-dahan. [10:33] Kaya sa ating mga kababayan, [10:35] mag-ingat po tayo [10:36] sa paniwalaan [10:38] or papaniwalaan. [10:40] Remember, [10:41] the devil [10:42] can cite the scripture [10:44] for his purpose. [10:47] No more no less. [10:49] When Jesus went [10:50] into the wilderness [10:51] to pray, [10:52] the devil [10:53] tried to tempt Him [10:54] three times. [10:56] But as we, [10:58] as, [10:59] but as he was [11:00] failing to tempt Jesus [11:01] and as he was [11:03] getting desperate, [11:05] what did the devil do? [11:08] He quoted the scriptures [11:09] from the book of Psalms. [11:12] Huwag po tayo [11:12] magpapadala [11:13] sa mga mabubulaklak [11:15] na mga pananalita [11:16] dahil lang [11:17] siya ay nagbabasa [11:18] ng Biblia. [11:20] Huwag po tayo [11:21] basta maniniwala [11:21] dahil binansagang bayani [11:23] o marins [11:24] ang 18 na kargador. [11:27] Buksan po natin [11:28] ang ating mga mata, [11:29] taing at utak. [11:30] Huwag po tayo [11:31] magpapadala [11:32] sa mga live selling nila. [11:34] Tingnan nyo po [11:35] kung sino ang nagbebenta. [11:37] Kasi kung mahistoryan [11:38] ng pagbubudol [11:40] at di tayo maingat, [11:41] tayo na po ang susunod [11:42] na biktima nila. [11:44] And before I end, [11:48] I would like [11:48] to remind [11:50] my colleagues [11:52] here in the Senate [11:52] to please [11:54] be very careful [11:55] in calling out [11:57] some people [11:58] as bayani. [12:01] Putting them [12:01] on a pedestal [12:02] dahil [12:04] hindi naman talaga [12:05] totoo. [12:06] Because that will be [12:07] a reflection of you. [12:09] Tatawagin mo [12:11] ang mga taong [12:12] umami naman [12:13] na nag-deliver [12:14] ng mga kickback [12:14] kung sino-sino [12:15] ang poncio pilato. [12:17] So therefore, [12:18] matatawag siya [12:18] ng sindikato. [12:20] So kung tatawagin mong [12:21] bayani [12:21] isang sindikato, [12:22] sindikato ka rin. [12:24] As simple as that. [12:25] Maraming salamat, [12:27] Mr. Chair. [12:28] Maraming salamat, [12:29] Senator Rafi. [12:30] We now go to [12:31] Senator JV Ejercito. [12:33] If you have any [12:34] opening statement. [12:35] I'm sure I'll just [12:36] go straight to [12:37] the question later [12:38] so that we can [12:39] start the ball rolling. [12:41] Thank you. [12:41] Thank you, [12:42] Senator JV. [12:44] Senator Ban. [12:45] Okay. [12:45] Now we go to [12:46] Senator Tito Soto. [12:51] Thank you. [12:51] I'm just here to listen. [12:54] I actually [12:57] would not want [12:58] to dignify [12:59] parang sinihingit [13:00] nando sa salaisay, [13:01] but nevertheless, [13:03] I'm here to listen. [13:03] Mr. Chairman, [13:05] thank you. [13:08] Thank you very much, [13:10] Senator Soto, [13:11] Senator Rizontoveros. [13:14] Salamat po, [13:14] Mr. Chair, [13:15] at magandang umaga po [13:16] sa lahat. [13:18] Wala pong iniiwasan [13:19] ang bagong mayorya [13:20] ng Senado. [13:22] Pero sa kahit [13:23] anong investigason, [13:25] dapat ebidensya [13:26] ang mga ibabaw. [13:28] Hindi kwento lang. [13:30] Yan pong gusto [13:31] sana nating alamin [13:32] ngayong araw. [13:34] Pero ang 18x [13:36] bodyguards, [13:37] hindi po sumipot [13:38] ngayon sa Senado. [13:41] Oportunidad po sana [13:42] ito para malaman [13:43] kung ano ba talaga [13:45] ang totoo. [13:47] Pero ang resource [13:47] persons ay wala dito [13:49] para patotohanan [13:51] ang kwento nila. [13:53] Sayang po. [13:53] I recall a quote [13:56] which says, [13:57] truth doesn't mind [13:59] being questioned. [14:01] A lie [14:01] does not like [14:03] being challenged. [14:05] Salamat po, [14:06] Mr. Chair. [14:08] Maraming salamat po, [14:10] Senador Riza [14:12] Ontiveros. [14:13] Thank you po. [14:14] Before we go to [14:17] the questioning [14:19] in the matter [14:21] of the order [14:22] of arrival [14:22] of our [14:23] colleagues, [14:25] unahin po natin [14:26] mamaya si [14:27] Senator [14:27] Senate [14:29] Pro Tempore [14:30] Wingachalian [14:31] followed by [14:33] Senator [14:34] Rafi Tulfo, [14:35] Senator [14:35] JV, [14:36] Senator [14:37] Baum, [14:37] Senator [14:37] Soto, [14:38] and Senator [14:38] Riz [14:39] Ontiveros. [14:39] Of course, [14:40] after [14:40] the chairman, [14:43] it will be [14:43] the vice chairman [14:44] and then [14:45] the Senate [14:46] Pro Tempore. [14:47] And let us now, [14:51] before we go [14:52] to the presentation [14:53] of the various [14:55] agencies [14:56] present today [14:57] that we invited [14:58] like the National [14:59] Bureau of Investigation, [15:00] the Ombudsman, [15:01] the Department [15:02] of Public Works [15:02] and Highways, [15:03] and the Department [15:04] of Justice, [15:05] Department of Budget [15:06] Management, [15:06] I would just like [15:07] to quickly mention [15:09] po, [15:10] kasi sinasabi po [15:11] basing doon [15:12] sa accusations [15:12] na the Blue Ribbon [15:14] of the 20th Congress [15:16] headed by [15:17] Senator Pink [15:18] Lakson. [15:18] Iwala pong nagawa. [15:20] Actually, [15:21] there were bills [15:21] filed because [15:22] of the investigation. [15:24] Isa po diyan [15:25] ang Senate Bill [15:25] No. 1453 [15:27] License Integrity Act. [15:29] Ito po yung [15:30] prohibiting [15:31] unlawful lending, [15:32] borrowing, [15:33] or fraudulent [15:33] use of licenses, [15:35] permits, [15:36] and other concessions [15:37] granted by the state. [15:39] Yung pagpapahiram po [15:40] ng mga lisensya [15:41] ng mga kontraktor. [15:42] Dahil po, [15:44] na bulgar po [15:44] dito po [15:45] sa Blue Ribbon [15:45] hearing. [15:46] Isa pa po [15:47] ang Senate Bill [15:48] No. 1373, [15:50] Contractors License Law. [15:52] Ito po yung bill [15:53] restructuring [15:54] and strengthening [15:54] the Philippine [15:55] Contractors Accreditation [15:56] Board [15:57] introduces [15:58] stricter qualifications [16:00] in terms of office [16:00] for its members. [16:02] Ang ibig po sabihin, [16:04] hindi na po [16:04] pag ikaw [16:04] ay member ng PICAB, [16:06] hindi ka po [16:06] pwedeng [16:06] mangontrata [16:07] sa gobyerno. [16:08] SB No. 1360, [16:10] Master Plan [16:11] for Infrastructure [16:12] and National Development Act. [16:14] 30-year [16:15] Comprehensive [16:15] Infrastructure [16:17] Development Master Plan [16:18] which shall focus [16:20] on the country's [16:20] long-term vision, [16:22] goals, [16:22] and strategy [16:23] of infrastructure [16:24] development. [16:25] hindi po yung [16:26] basta na lamang [16:27] isumiti yung [16:28] program of work [16:29] ng isa pong politiko [16:30] para makakuha po [16:32] ng pondok. [16:32] Kailangan po ito [16:33] nakabase [16:34] sa Master Plan [16:35] for Infrastructure [16:36] and National Development. [16:38] Isa pa po [16:39] ay regulation [16:39] of foreign travel [16:41] for government [16:42] officials and employees. [16:44] Senate Bill No. 1362, [16:46] this bill regulates [16:47] foreign travels [16:48] for government officials [16:48] and employees [16:49] who are under investigation [16:50] for acts [16:52] that may compromise [16:53] national security, [16:54] public safety, [16:54] or public health. [16:56] Senate Bill No. 1364, [16:58] amending [16:59] the Bank Secrecy Act. [17:01] This measure proposes [17:02] to amend the law [17:03] by authorizing [17:04] a competent court [17:05] or investigating body [17:06] to examine [17:07] the bank deposits [17:08] of public officials. [17:09] Senate Bill No. 1365, [17:11] amending [17:11] PD No. 1759, [17:14] penalizing [17:14] the contractors [17:15] and subcontractors [17:17] who violate [17:18] any material provision [17:19] of contracts [17:20] involving public works [17:21] of government officials [17:23] of government [17:24] and public officials [17:25] who allow [17:26] such violation. [17:27] Senate Bill No. 1358, [17:29] Budget Modernization Act [17:31] of September 9, [17:32] 2025, [17:33] ito po kaya po [17:34] na natin mapapanood [17:35] na from now on [17:36] ang bicameral conference [17:37] po ng dalawang [17:39] kupulungan [17:39] sa pagsasagawa po [17:41] ng ating budget [17:42] at marami pa pong iba. [17:44] Eh yun lamang po [17:44] ay pinapaalala po natin [17:46] doon sa mga nagsasabi [17:47] na wala pong ginawa [17:48] ang blue ribbon [17:49] hearings po [17:50] nito mga nagdaang [17:51] panahon. [17:53] Yan po ang accomplishments [17:54] po ng blue ribbon [17:56] hearing [17:56] na isa nagawa po natin [17:58] ngayong 20th Congress. [17:59] Now, [17:59] doon.