Pia Cayetano on 'bogus' tag on flood control hearing: I am still chairman — ANC

[0:00] Your comment on Sen. Jingoy Estrada maintaining that Senate President is still in Sen. Alan Peter? [0:07] Ah, not just Sen. Jingoy is still maintaining it. I think all of you should also understand it. [0:12] I'll read the rules to you very simply, okay? [0:15] Guys, rules of the Senate, okay? We're all bound by this. [0:22] Rules of the Senate, the officers of the Senate shall be elected by the majority votes of all its members. [0:27] Majority vote of all its members. [0:30] Nagkaroon ba ng majority vote of all its members for any other officer? Wala. [0:34] It's very simple. It's very simple. [0:36] Huwag tayo magpapalitong, huwag tayo magpapagulo. [0:39] Kaya nga nagkanda gulo-gulo na yung hearing ko because somebody who's purporting to be the acting Sen. President Pro Temp, [0:46] when we have a Sen. President Pro Temp, issued instructions that wala ng hearing. [0:52] And then, this is last night, and then pinayagan ituloy yung hearing ko. [0:55] So, may mga nag-attend naman. [0:58] But by 9.30 in the morning, may memo na naman na sinabing because there's no official business authorizing all employees to leave the Senate by 10 a.m. [1:07] Anong klase yan? [1:09] Kasi nga, nag-iimbento sila ng script nila. [1:11] We have a Sen. President. [1:13] It's Sen. Alan Cayetano. [1:14] We have a Sen. President Pro Tempore. [1:16] It is Sen. Loren Legarda. [1:18] We have a Secretary. [1:19] Atty. Joel Montales. [1:22] Here lang kayo guys. [1:23] Ma'am, tinawag po nilang bogus yung Blue Ribbon Committee hearing ngayon. Ano pong reaction? [1:28] Yeah. So, you know, I love answering these questions. Thank you for answering these very important questions. [1:33] I go back to the rules. Who were the elected officers of the Senate? We already discussed that, right? All members of the Senate must elect its officers. [1:44] Senate President, Senate President Pro Tempore. And from there, we elect our chairmans of each committee. [1:51] I was elected chairman of the Blue Ribbon Committee. So, chairman ako. Wala naman nagbago doon. Paano magbabago? [1:59] Nag-hold sila ng some kind of gathering where 12 of them decided that there will be an acting Senate President. [2:06] Then the 12 of them decide to change the... They can't even hold the session guys. [2:12] The person authorized to conduct a session is the Senate President. [2:22] And in his absence, it's the Senate President Pro Tempore. In their absence, guys, it's the secretary... [2:31] The secretary under Rule 5. The secretary. The secretary can be the one. [2:37] Hindi yung metatayo lang doon. That cannot be. [2:42] Pag hindi kami nagkasundo, we... all of us can decide, we can have a vote to change the Senate President. [2:50] That's all it takes. It's very simple. You just need 13 people to change the Senate President because the majority of the senators do not like the Senate President anymore. [2:59] But you cannot decide, tatlo kami, lima kami, twelve kami, ayaw na namin, we will conduct our own session. [3:05] Hindi pwede yun. Otherwise, we are lawless already. [3:09] Sila nga ang yabang-yabang nilalagyan lang tinuturo yung rules, tapos hindi nila sinusundan. [3:13] Okay, guys, I think I said... [3:16] Ma'am, ma'am, magpapatawag po ang Presidente ng special session? Willing po ba kayo sa majority? [3:21] Well, I'm not the Senate President. I was the Senate President. [3:23] I mean, I'm a team player. [3:25] Are you willing to add that? [3:28] Of course. Pag nagpatawag ang Presidente, bakit naman hindi? Yes. [3:33] Ma'am, sinabi po ni SILG, hindi daw po kayo hinarang kasi hindi daw po niya kaya dahil mag-isa lang daw po siya. [3:39] Ah, hindi yata. Kasi nakita nung staff ko na may iba siyang kasama. [3:43] Tsaka may video nandun siya. Naglalakad ako dito, oh. [3:46] Pag hindi ka umalis, nihinarang mo ako, diba, kuya? [3:49] Diba? Tsaka tatayo ka dun sa harap ko, diba? [3:53] Kung nakita mo ako, tapos gusto mo lang ang kawa yan, decide mo, hi, Sen! Oh, hi! Hi! [3:58] Pero kung tatayo ka sa harap ko, nakaganong ka, ano tawag mo dun? [4:01] Ano tawag mo dun? [4:04] Sorry if I cannot appreciate somebody standing in front of me and I'm trying to move forward. [4:11] Di naman ako nagmamalaki, pero I would think naman na, excuse me, pwede bang makitaan? [4:16] May sahay ba ba kayo may SILG, ma'am? [4:18] Hindi na, sinabi ko na yung kailangan ko sabihin. [4:20] Ma'am, how about Senator is joining the SILG? [4:23] That's his choice. [4:26] Thank you, guys. [4:28] Thank you. [4:34] Atinyan, iniwan natin sa Senado. [4:36] Mas exciting po ito. [4:38] Para naman ma-entertain tayo. [4:40] Ano nga, may showbiz question kami eh. [4:42] Ah po? [4:43] Sino raw bad boy, minority, majority? [4:46] Wow! [4:47] Wala naman. [4:48] Interesting question. [4:49] Ang sagot ko dyan, democracy. [4:50] Ito po ay democracy. [4:51] Ang Pilipinas ay democracy. [4:53] Ang bawat tao ay meron siyang opinion, meron siyang, lalo na sa politika. [5:00] Meron kaming kanya-kanyang point of view. [5:03] Ang importante dito, ang gusto namin, umasenso Pilipinas. [5:06] At sana, mawala na yung corruption. [5:08] Senator, ito na yung showbiz question. [5:10] Paano mo naman madidescribe ang bad boy sa politika? [5:13] Ang bad boy sa politika, sige, yan yung mga corrupt. [5:22] Yan, eh, hindi ako bad boy sa politika. [5:25] Ako'y very good boy sa politika. [5:28] Kaya nga, ang sabi nila, ah, lagi akong maximum tolerance. [5:33] Kaming dalawa, maximum tolerance naman kaming dalawa. [5:40] Kasi parehas lang kami na may trabaho siya, may trabaho. [5:45] Ang mainam doon, nakita ng tao, wala naman nagbuhat ng kamay. [5:48] Talagang natural lang yun, marami. [5:50] Ano yun eh, nagkakagulo eh. [5:52] Walang tulakan? [5:53] Nagkaroon ng tulakan, siyempre, kasi maraming tao, nagkakagulo eh. [5:59] Ang importante, walang nagbuhat ng kamay. [6:02] Natural lang tulakan. [6:03] Kumbaga, kami yung mga nangyari doon, [6:07] alam mo yung sa, ano dami yung? [6:09] Crowd, ano, crowd control kami. [6:11] Crowd control kami ni sekretary. [6:14] Kaibigan ko naman yun. [6:16] Wala namang kaming personal na away. [6:19] Tagahanga ako nung siya i-governor eh. [6:22] Lagi ako sa kabite dahil maraming pinatatay yung ano yan eh. [6:25] Ospital. [6:26] Ako'y tagahanga niyan. [6:30] Wala, walang bad blood. [6:31] Natural lang yun. [6:32] Siguro gano'n din naman pakiramdam ni sekretary. [6:34] Walang, gano'n talaga. [6:35] Meron siyang pinaglalaban. [6:37] Meron din akong pinaglalaban. [6:39] Ang importante, walang nagbuhat ng kamay. [6:41] Dr. Badboy, does this mean that the social business projects? [6:47] Ah, lahat tatapusin ko. [6:49] Kasi lahat ng commitment ko. [6:51] Yung mista, kailangan magawa ko na. [6:53] Kasi si Boss Vic nakasibangot na. [6:55] Yung blood versus duty. [6:58] Yung blood versus duty, ginawa ko yun kasi may kinalaman yun sa mga Muslim. [7:03] Kaya, kaya ako ginawa. [7:05] Pero special role lang ako doon. [7:07] Hindi ako mainstay, hindi ako pang matagalan. [7:11] Ako'y pinakiusapan ng mga kaibigan ko sa ABS-CBN. [7:15] Naggawin ko yun. [7:16] Kasi nung binasa ko nga yung istorya. [7:18] Ah, may kinalaman sa mga Muslim ito. [7:20] Bilang tagapangulo ng Muslim affairs, ginawa ko yun. [7:23] Thank you. [7:25] Thank you, sir. [7:26] Sir, reaksyon ko? [7:27] Parang natulak lang ko ba yun ni Sen. Walidya? [7:30] Yeah. [7:31] Malabas na ako eh. [7:32] Nag-usap lang kami ni Sen. Win. [7:34] Malabas na ako. [7:35] Pag ipagkita ko, isang dilubyong tao dumatating pabunta sa akin eh. [7:38] Eh, kung hindi ko may protect na ang sarili ko, magano? [7:42] Kaya ano ako ah... [7:43] Sa malintu ko na yun eh. [7:44] Ah... [7:45] Madadagalan ako. [7:46] Ah... [7:47] So hindi kayo pumitigil? [7:48] Hindi. [7:49] Hindi. [7:50] I have to protect myself. [7:51] Kasi siguro, they were mga 50 sila eh. [7:53] Diba? [7:55] Pupunta ako dito para mag-confer lang kay Sen. Win regarding security procedures. [7:59] Nung paalis na ako, biglang nag-dilubyong na rito. [8:02] Eh, I just had to protect myself. [8:04] Eh, wala ba't there was no exchanges ah. [8:06] There was no punches. [8:07] Wala, wala. [8:08] Hindi wala nasaktan. [8:09] But I did know. [8:10] Hindi ko alam na parating sila. [8:12] Eh... [8:13] Tinulak ba ho daw kayo ni Sen. Padilla? [8:16] Hindi. [8:17] I wouldn't say tinulak niya ako. [8:19] Pero siya yung nasa harap ko. [8:20] Nung isang wave ng tao, [8:24] nagulot na lang ako eh. [8:26] Kung hindi ako... [8:27] Kung hindi matibated ba yung katawan ko, [8:30] nahulog na ako nun eh. [8:31] Kasi tapat ko yung pintuwang mismo, yung doorjamb eh. [8:35] Tapot ng doorjamb na eh. [8:36] So baka nang saktan pa ako. [8:38] May chance pa kayong mag... [8:40] Mag ano? [8:41] Kung sorry? [8:42] Kung sino ba na magsasorry? [8:43] Hindi na kailangan. [8:44] Trabaho nung ano na... [8:45] They were doing their job. [8:46] I was doing my job. [8:47] Palabas lang ako. [8:48] No feelings are hurt. [8:49] Physically, I wasn't hurt. [8:51] Diba? [8:52] It was more than that to hurt me. [8:54] Sir, what can you say po [8:55] to Senator Pia saying that [8:56] you didn't block them po [8:57] kasi you still didn't block them po? [8:59] No. [9:00] Makita niyo naman, [9:01] wala akong kasama. [9:02] Pignan niyo lahat ng video ko lang mag-isa. [9:04] Malabas na talaga ako. [9:05] Diyan nakaparada po at chico, [9:06] Diyan sa labas eh. [9:07] Malabas na talaga ako. [9:08] Ang blocking force. [9:10] Dapat mga isang daang kayo. [9:12] Mag-ahanda. [9:13] Pwede ba ako mag-isa mag-block [9:15] ng isang batalyo ng tao? [9:17] Diba? [9:18] Hindi ko kaya ko yun. [9:19] Sir, can you talk [9:20] para siguruhin na [9:22] yung, yung, [9:23] yung, [9:24] yung, [9:25] yung, [9:26] yung, [9:27] yung, [9:28] yung, [9:29] yung group. [9:30] Ang nakapangyayari [9:31] in the building? [9:32] It's their committees? [9:33] Hindi. [9:34] Ang, [9:35] I'm here kasi [9:36] nagkakaroon ng parehong factions [9:37] on left and right of the building. [9:38] Diba? [9:39] Ang iniiwasan namin, [9:40] mag-class yung dalawang nga. [9:41] Diba? [9:42] The rhetoric down. [9:43] Diba? [9:44] The rhetoric down. [9:45] And then, [9:46] we agreed. [9:47] Nga kapta nagkasundo na kami, [9:48] kung paalis na ako, [9:49] bigaan na ng boom [9:50] so babog na may [9:51] parating pala sila. [9:52] Diba? [9:53] External security [9:54] sa madaling shopping? [9:55] Oo, external naman na role ko. [9:56] I have no role here in the Senate. [9:57] Then why are you inside? [9:59] The two will talk to, [10:00] ginoso po si [10:01] Senator Gatchelian [10:02] na sabi ko, [10:03] keep the, [10:04] I asked him na [10:05] doon kami sa labas. [10:06] Sa loob, [10:07] wala kaming pakialam dito. [10:08] Totoo naman eh, [10:09] wala tayo. [10:10] wala kami pakialam. [10:12] And you can see, [10:13] walang, [10:14] walang polis eh. [10:15] Diba? [10:16] Walang polis dito. [10:17] I was alone. [10:18] I came here alone. [10:20] They, [10:21] I was almost trampled upon. [10:23] Eh, [10:24] hindi na lang, [10:25] malakas-takas pakatamang ko. [10:26] Kaya, [10:27] kinaya ko naman. [10:28] But that was where you came from a meeting, [10:29] right sir, [10:30] with Senator Gatchelian? [10:31] Yes. [10:32] Can you tell us more about it? [10:33] There was a summon of the Sandigan Bayan [10:36] na para i-produce si Bryce Hernandez dito. [10:38] Pero, [10:40] nung nakita namin, [10:41] eh, [10:42] ano ko kung valid to? [10:43] Anong order yung [10:44] Old Blue Ribbon Committee? [10:46] So, [10:48] kanina, [10:49] pinakita niya sa akin [10:50] na yung New Blue Ribbon Committee [10:52] sumulat na sa Sandigan Bayan [10:54] na they no longer recognize [10:56] the, [10:58] the request [10:59] of the Old Blue Ribbon Committee. [11:00] So, [11:01] ano lang yun, [11:02] it's a, [11:03] it's a, [11:04] it's a, [11:05] it's a communication scheme. [11:06] Kasi baka, [11:07] baka makontempt yung mga tao ko sa BGMP eh, [11:08] eh, [11:09] hindi produce si Bryce Hernandez dito. [11:10] So, [11:11] to clarify everything. [11:12] And they wrote to the Sandigan Bayan [11:13] that, [11:14] ah, [11:15] nainko lang nalaman, [11:16] ah, [11:17] hindi ka have the copy. [11:18] They have the copy already, [11:19] na, [11:20] canceled na yun sa PIC. [11:21] Ayong, [11:22] order to bring Bryce Hernandez dito. [11:23] It's like, [11:24] yung naunang Blue Ribbon po yun, [11:25] hindi yung [11:26] kay Senator Irwin. [11:27] So, [11:28] hindi naman na pala ng, [11:29] nag-notice na ang Blue Ribbon na, [11:31] they no longer are requested. [11:33] Mm. [11:34] So, yun ang, [11:35] ah, yun ang, [11:36] kara maklarify lang. [11:37] Hilarify ko lang. [11:38] Kasi nagpapanik yung mga tao sa BGMP ko, [11:39] kung anong gagawin na. [11:40] So, [11:41] punta ako dito para, [11:42] makita talaga yan pa sa inyo. [11:43] Dito. [11:44] For today ko ba sana yan? [11:45] For today? [11:46] Yes. [11:47] At 10 o'clock. [11:48] So, [11:49] kanina pa kami nagtatanong, [11:50] balik balik balik, [11:51] sabi yung, [11:52] kanina pa kami balik balik. [11:53] Anong susundan namin. [11:55] Diba? [11:56] That's why Bryce is not here? [11:58] That's why Bryce is not here. [12:01] In all this country, [12:03] I don't know who is here. [12:07] I'm protected by people. [12:09] I don't want to confirm them. [12:11] So I'm going to explain everything. [12:13] Aside from Bryce, [12:15] there are other people? [12:17] That's why Bryce is the request to appear here. [12:19] So, [12:21] because they are the Blue Ribbon Committee, [12:24] they are the same. [12:26] So, [12:28] you can see that I have no fear. [12:30] I have no fear. [12:32] I have no fear. [12:34] I'm just going to see that I have no fear. [12:36] I have no fear. [12:38] I have no fear. [12:40] I have no fear. [12:42] I have no fear. [12:44] Except that you have no fear. [12:46] If I am not a defensive brace, [12:49] I am a defensive brace. [12:51] I am really afraid. [12:53] So, I don't want to see that. [12:55] I have no fear. [12:57] Why are you not there? [12:59] I am not there. [13:01] I am right by the door. [13:03] I am not there. [13:05] I am not there. [13:08] I am not there. [13:10] I am not there. [13:12] I am not there. [13:14] I am not there. [13:16] I am not there. [13:18] I am not there. [13:20] But I have no position to move. [13:22] Senator Pia insisted. [13:24] Not there. [13:26] there was no position to move aside. [13:29] Senator Pia insisted kasi na [13:31] hinarapan. [13:31] Hindi na fog of war. [13:32] I saw her mga five people deep. [13:37] Akala nyo nakikipagtulakan ako. [13:38] When in fact, ako'y natutulak. [13:41] Thank you very much. [13:42] Thank you. [13:43] Senator Pia Tana made some statements [13:45] about the palace. [13:46] Isa po doon ay [13:47] sabi niya sometimes you have to [13:49] bend the constitution to please Malacanang. [13:52] Wala tayong nilalabag na [13:54] anumang provision ng constitution. [13:56] Maliwalag naman, di ba? [13:58] Nakalagay sa constitution. [14:00] The Senate shall elect [14:02] the Senate President [14:03] by the vote of majority [14:05] of all the members. [14:07] May in-elect ba na Senate President? [14:09] Di ba wala? [14:11] Pero nung nagkaroon ng quorum, [14:12] pwede silang gumawa ng transaksyon. [14:15] At legal, [14:17] ang pagdeklara [14:18] na bakante lahat [14:20] ang Senate elected [14:21] or elected Senate positions. [14:24] So, walang dinideklara, [14:25] walang binoto, [14:27] walang in-elect na Senate President. [14:28] Acting Senate President. [14:30] So, ano ang nilalabag na [14:32] provision ng konstitusyon? [14:34] At may iwanag, [14:35] akin na rin nabanggit kanina, [14:37] na tayo ay sumusunod lamang [14:39] sa naging kautusan [14:40] at naging desisyon [14:41] ng Supreme Court [14:41] sa Avelino [14:42] versus Cuenco. [14:44] At tandaan natin, [14:45] yan din [14:45] ang ginawang [14:47] aksyon [14:48] ni dating [14:49] Senate President [14:50] Franklin Dillon [14:51] na nagdeklara siya [14:52] noong 2015 [14:53] ng quorum [14:55] ng 12. [14:57] Diba? [14:57] Kasi may 17 at that time [14:58] na recognized [14:59] base number [15:01] at nandoon [15:02] sina Senator Alan [15:04] at Senator [15:05] Pia Cayetano. [15:06] Wala naman naging [15:07] pagtutol dito. [15:08] Wala naman naging [15:09] ginawang aksyon [15:11] na sinampa [15:11] sa Korte Suprema. [15:13] So, yan ang nasusunod [15:15] na jurisprudence [15:16] sa ngayon. [15:16] Pagpupulong sa, [15:38] nagpupulong sila? [15:39] Coordinated daw po dito. [15:40] Wala tayong [15:41] informasyon patungkol dyan. [15:44] At yung [15:44] akustasyon po na [15:45] may mga members [15:46] daw po ng [15:47] cabinet na [15:48] tinangkang kausapin [15:49] si Senator [15:50] Jingoy Estrada [15:51] para daw po [15:52] maligtas [15:52] sa kanyang kaso. [15:54] Unang-una, [15:55] ano po bang [15:55] kapangyarihan [15:56] ng mga [15:56] miembro ng [15:57] gabinete [15:58] na mangako [15:59] sa isang tao [16:00] na diumanong [16:01] sangkot [16:01] sa anomalya [16:03] na sasabihin [16:04] wala ka ng kaso. [16:06] Wala silang karapatan. [16:07] Wala silang kapangyarihan. [16:09] Ang kapangyarihan [16:10] ng pag-iimbestiga [16:11] ay nasa kamay [16:12] ng Office of the Ombudsman [16:13] or ng DOJ. [16:15] So, [16:16] nasa Office of the Ombudsman [16:17] ang pagdirekomenda [16:18] kung ididismiss ang kaso [16:20] o isasampa ang kaso. [16:22] Walang kinalaman [16:23] doon ang gabinete. [16:24] Ang mahirap po kasi [16:25] ngayon, [16:26] mas marami [16:27] ang paninira. [16:29] Kung baga, [16:29] sa paninira na lamang [16:30] sila kumakapit [16:31] para iangat [16:32] ang sarili nila. [16:33] In response to [16:34] criticisms and observations [16:36] ng Ombudsman [16:37] albate [16:37] independent siya [16:38] under the Constitution [16:39] ay kaalyado pa rin daw [16:41] ni Pangulong [16:41] Ferdinand Marcos Jr. [16:42] given that he is [16:43] the older brother [16:44] of DILG [16:45] Secretary John Vigreo. [16:46] Hinala lang nila yan. [16:47] Hindi mo naman [16:48] mapaghihiwalay [16:49] yung magkapatid. [16:49] Magkapatid yan eh. [16:50] Pero iba naman [16:51] ang mandato [16:52] ng Ombudsman [16:53] at iba naman [16:53] ang mandato [16:54] ng isang sekretary [16:55] ng DILG. [16:56] Kung nagkataong [16:57] magkapatid sila, [16:58] hindi naman ibig sabihin [16:58] na sila [16:59] yung nagkakampiyan [16:59] sa lahat ng bagay. [17:01] So yung mga gaytong [17:02] klaseng hinala, [17:03] alam nyo naman yan, [17:03] naggagawa ng intriga [17:05] para sirain [17:06] ang ibang institusyon. [17:08] So dapat siguro [17:09] iangat muna nila [17:10] yung kanilang institusyon [17:11] bago manira [17:12] ng ibang institusyon. [17:13] Thank you, Lord.