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Panel: Should Dems welcome MTG & other MAGA defectors?

April 16, 2026 8m 1,720 words
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"but i'm not ready to turn my back and invite marjorie taylor green to any table that i'm well see marjorie taylor green before she was a member started chasing me around saying that the shooting at my high school didn't happen that i was a crisis actor that i was paid by the government to do all..."

[0:00] but i'm not ready to turn my back and invite marjorie taylor green to any table that i'm well [0:04] see marjorie taylor green before she was a member started chasing me around saying that the shooting [0:09] at my high school didn't happen that i was a crisis actor that i was paid by the government [0:13] to do all these just horrible things that are completely false i'll be honest i think what she [0:18] did to you is abhorrent she was a clown then she's a clown now since the topic is adopting the kooks [0:25] that defected from maga and now are considering the democratic party i just would warn the democratic [0:32] party because to scott's point i mean these are conspiracy theorists who believe that there's a [0:36] jewish cabal controlling the country pulling the puppet strings and and that are going to destroy [0:42] america tonight ilhan omar is applauding maga stars candace owens and marjorie taylor green [0:50] for breaking with donald trump and expressing their buyer's remorse the thing that has been [0:56] very fascinating especially about marjorie and candace is that they are not just coming out like [1:05] the other ones that you'd mentioned where they're saying this action is wrong right they're saying [1:11] i am done with you we should give them credit for that if somebody is ready to take that step [1:16] and at least talk to us and maybe do something differently the message cannot be i told you so [1:22] the message has to be welcome aboard what else can we do together ilhan omar is saying give them [1:28] credit uh pete buddha judge is saying let's hold hands and say what can we do together do you think [1:33] that's the right move so look i you know i have to address something first which is that when i was [1:39] you know i've had a personal interaction with marjorie taylor green when i was 18 after the shooting [1:43] at my high school when i was lobbying members of congress my fellow activists in march for our lives [1:47] marjorie taylor green before she was a member started chasing me around saying that the shooting [1:51] at my high school didn't happen that i was a crisis actor that i was paid by the government to do all [1:56] these yeah just horrible things that are completely false um and at the same time you know i what those [2:04] conversations that they're talking about remind me of is my own evolution as an activist in terms of [2:08] when i was in college i didn't go to college to just be surrounded by a bunch of liberals necessarily i [2:13] know that's hard for you guys to believe but it's true that's why i joined the shooting club when i [2:17] was in college and as you can imagine scott i was not very popular there but it's important to talk to [2:22] people who disagree with us because ultimately even though we're democrats and republicans we have to [2:27] find what little overlap there is that we can move forward on and look we can speculate all we want on [2:32] her intentions and why she's doing this ultimately but from my perspective i'm willing to take that first [2:38] step and have that conversation with her and i would challenge her to this too if she wants to come on your [2:42] show and talk to me directly about why she's changed her mind i'm happy to do that and have [2:46] that conversation and i would challenge her to do that and prove to us why she actually is authentic [2:51] and changing and that this is not just another opportunistic political opportunity like it was [2:55] when she chased me after the shooting at my high school but i'm willing to give her a small chance [3:00] to have that conversation but it's important to note too this is not just a marjorie taylor green [3:04] phenomenon yeah we're seeing tucker carlson we're seeing people across the board defect increasingly from [3:09] trump what do all those people have in what do all those people have in common by the way [3:15] trump what is it they all have in common and now he doesn't when i hear ilan homar you know what i [3:19] hear how do you do fellow anti-semites that's what i hear yeah this is not this is about there is a [3:26] thread here uh and it's so transparently obvious and i i'll be honest i think what she did to you [3:33] is abhorrent she was a clown then she's a clown now this entire thing for her is political trump [3:39] didn't want her didn't want to back her in a statewide race in georgia and she's a conspiracy [3:43] theorist then and she's a conspiracy i would caution you i would caution you i don't think joe rogan is [3:50] an anti-semite i don't think andrew schultz is an anti-semite i don't think eric erickson is an anti-semite [3:55] no i think there's a lot of people around the country whose names we don't know who we're [4:00] we're talking about marjorie taylor green Tucker Carlson but just one second what do all of them [4:06] have in common even if you say that the only thing that is important about these those three [4:12] individuals in particular is that they're anti-semitic what does it say about the president [4:16] that he was totally fine with them six months ago well and they were totally fine with him what does [4:22] it say look he he attracted a lot of people and some of the people that he attracted like that [4:28] have those views i completely and totally disagree with and and he has been quite clear about his views [4:33] on these issues and he has led the party away from those views and that's frankly one of the reasons [4:38] they're not in it he spoke on the phone with tucker carlson about six weeks ago what did he say [4:42] what did he say about him last week but why i mean look you're arguing to me that they are repulsive [4:48] people who are anti-semitic the president the president of the united states is on the phone [4:52] he disavowed them he disavowed them last week i'm just saying but let's go back to what david said [4:59] because i think it's it's it's important i mean is there a way to uh to work with a marjorie taylor green [5:08] or i mean candace owens marjorie taylor green really are is that really what democrats are going to be [5:14] doing marjorie taylor green candace owens tucker carlson and others are responsible for creating [5:21] the personality that we are dealing with in the white house today and all of the issues that come [5:27] along i believe the best indicator of future performance is to look at past performance [5:32] marjorie taylor green hasn't had any great um jesus moment we've been talking a lot about him let me bring [5:39] him to the table she hasn't had some great jesus moment this is all about her [5:44] what attention would marjorie taylor green be getting today if she had not turned so fully [5:51] against the president i'm not a believer now for ilhan omar or omar irhan ilhan omar thank you [6:00] i believe she has the best intentions but i'm not ready to turn my back and invite marjorie taylor [6:06] green to any table that i'm well let's remember wait let's remember what the issue was uh that drove a [6:12] wedge between donald trump and some of his biggest supportive uh republican women like nancy mace [6:19] like lauren bobert like marjorie taylor green and it was the epstein files and as much as i disagree [6:25] with them some of them are still in congress on so many things uh i do give them credit for not having [6:31] bent the knee when he brought lauren bobert into the situation room and tried to bully her into not voting [6:38] for the release of the files now what i would say to to to um ilhan omar what i would say to peep [6:44] budigich as somebody who broke with my party in 2015 the minute the guy came down the escalator [6:50] and started talking about mexicans and immigrants is that it is hard peep budigich is right when you've [6:56] been part of a party your entire life when your circles your social circles your family circles your [7:01] professional circles are made up in that party it is very hard to make that break but i don't think [7:06] democrats have to say come in the water is warm because it is a personal decision it is not one [7:12] that is led by people being your cheerleaders you do it because you feel uncomfortable with the guy [7:19] who's leading the party not because you have a cheering section telling you to jump into the pool [7:24] and just quickly i mean uh the polling suggests that there is erosion despite that you know whatever [7:29] the maggot number that trump likes to tout and uh white non-college educated graduates that's trump's base [7:35] 63 percent supported him in 2025 the february of last year uh 49 support him now in april 2026. [7:45] yeah and i mean obviously the way that this war has been conducted is not universally popular among [7:50] every single maga voter among every single republican but since the topic is adopting the kooks that defected [7:57] from maga and now are considering the democratic party i just would warn the democratic party because [8:05] to scott's point i mean these are conspiracy theorists who believe that there's a jewish cabal [8:09] controlling the country pulling the puppet strings and and that are going to destroy america so if that's [8:15] the unholy alliance that these kooks were campaigning with trump and they were the same they have not [8:21] changed they were the poster child they are the same people i mean conspiracy theorists there's also i [8:26] mean we didn't even mention megan kelly i mean but again the day before the 2024 election she was [8:33] in a closing argument campaign rally with president trump i mean the idea that suddenly their kooks and [8:39] the republican party is happy to be rid of them is that's brand new mark gates and marjorie taylor green [8:45] warren stormed the country on behalf of donald trump they created this yeah to your point all right

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