'Pakitang tao': Tulfo blasts Cayetano's defense Senate continues work through committee hearings

[0:00] Why would they refuse to work? [0:02] Yan ang tanong. [0:03] Why would they refuse to work? [0:05] Because not having sessions for two days is already at the expense of the Filipino people. [0:12] What are they fearing, Senator Tulfo, pag nagka-corum? [0:16] Bakit ba ayaw mag-session? [0:19] Because nagpaprotesta po sila, Ms. Karen, doon po sa pagka-aresto kay Senator Jingoy. [0:26] Isa yun. [0:27] Yung first day po, nag-walk out, talagang binoykot po nila, hindi po sila pumasok, na wala naman pong paalam. [0:36] It's already a violation. [0:37] Dalawang rules po ng Senate ang binayolate po ni Senate President Carriotano. [0:45] Auna po yung Rule 3, Section 3, stating na doon po sa panunumpa niya bilang Senate President [0:54] that I will faithfully discharge my duty. [0:58] And duty niya po, Senate President, magkaroon po ng session every day, every Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, [1:04] at exactly 3 o'clock. [1:05] Pangalawa pong rule na binayolate niya, [1:08] na before na magkaroon ng ikang no session, na walang session, walang pasok, [1:15] he will have to consult the majority leader and the minority. [1:19] Ibig sabihin, dapat sinabihan niya rin po si Sen. Soto na hindi kami papasok ngayong araw na ito [1:25] dahil sasamahan namin si Jingoy. [1:28] Kahapon po, hindi kami papasok dahil nagpuprotesta kami. [1:31] Hindi niya rin po in-advise sa minority. [1:33] In-advise niya naman po, late na, pinadaan niya po sa Facebook. [1:38] Ang totoong rule po noon, dapat kausapin niya po, [1:41] kung hindi man sa text or what letter, communication, etc., [1:45] ipadaan niya, sasabihin niya po sa minority leader. [1:48] Hindi po eh, pinapadaan niya lahat sa Facebook niya, sa kanyang live. [1:53] Okay, second, sinasabi na po mapasok may committee hearing. [1:58] Anong pong saisay ng committee hearing? [2:00] Mag-hearing po tayo na mag-hearing. [2:03] Ang problema, at the end of the day, [2:05] kailangan po yung mga ikang panukalang batas, [2:09] yung mga proposed bills na yan, Senate bills na yan, [2:12] kailangan dalhin sa floor para pagdibatihan, [2:16] para makapagtanong yung mga kasamahanan namin. [2:19] Ano po ang purpose noon, di po ba? [2:21] Para ikang, may mga input din po kami, [2:24] na mga nasa minority, [2:26] dyan sa bills na yan, [2:29] na magiging batas one day. [2:31] Eh wala po. [2:31] So, if you're not calling a session, [2:34] wala pong quorum, [2:35] paano natin pag-uusapan yung mga hini-hearing-hearing daw nila ngayon? [2:40] Even that blue ribbon hearing na they're planning on Thursday, [2:45] mag-hearing sila na mag-hearing. [2:46] Eh kung wala naman pong session, [2:48] where will it lead us? [2:49] Di po ba? [2:49] I mean, [2:50] hindi rin po, [2:51] wala rin magiging committee report yan, [2:53] dahil wala kami mga input. [2:55] So, [2:55] ano pa ang say-say? [2:56] So, [2:57] lumalawas, [2:57] pakitang tao lang po yung mga hearing na yan, [2:59] kung hindi ka naman magkakaroon ng session, [3:02] there must be a session, [3:04] kasama po sa duty namin yan. [3:06] And so, [3:08] there must be a session. [3:10] And I think it's important for the public to understand the process. [3:15] Because all over social media, [3:17] the minority is hit na, [3:19] eh kayo naman ang unang nag-walk out. [3:22] Pero nung nag-walk out ang minority, [3:24] may session na kayo doon. [3:25] Do you need, [3:26] what do you need for there to be a session? [3:30] Right? [3:31] So, [3:31] you need, [3:31] of course, [3:32] the presiding officer. [3:33] What if the Senate president is not available? [3:37] Then, [3:38] we call on [3:39] the [3:40] Senate [3:42] pro-tempore, [3:44] Senator Loren Legarda. [3:46] We are calling also [3:48] for Joel Villanueva [3:52] to work [3:53] so that we will have a quorum. [3:56] Kailangan po silang dalawa mag-attend. [3:58] Kung ayaw ni Senator Cayetano, [4:00] at least silang dalawa. [4:01] Kung meron pa po silang [4:02] sense of responsibility [4:05] to this country, [4:07] sense of duty [4:09] dahil binoto po sila [4:11] ng mga kababayan nila, [4:12] ng mga Pilipino, [4:14] I am sure, [4:15] hindi lang sila binoto [4:16] ng mga tega Mindanao. [4:18] Sila po ay nakakuha din [4:19] ang boto sa Bulacan, [4:21] sila po ay nakakuha din [4:22] ang boto sa Iloilo, [4:25] sa Antique, [4:26] because that's where [4:27] Senator Loren Legarda came. [4:29] Paano naman po ito, [4:31] Senator Legarda, [4:32] yung mga constituents mo [4:33] sa Iloilo? [4:34] Hindi lang po sa Mindanao [4:35] ang constituents mo. [4:36] Meron ka sa Iloilo, [4:38] meron ka sa Luzon, [4:40] ganun ka rin, [4:41] Senator Villanueva, [4:44] meron ka mga constituents mo [4:46] sa Bulacan. [4:47] Bakit hindi po kayo [4:48] magsipasok? [4:50] Pumasok po kayo [4:51] para may quorum tayo [4:52] dahil kailangan po kayo [4:53] ng taong bayan, [4:55] binabayaran po tayo [4:56] araw-araw. [4:57] Ang sweldo po namin, [4:58] Miss Karen, [4:58] believe it or not, [4:59] we're making like [5:00] around P10,000 every day. [5:04] Sweldo na po yun [5:04] ng isang ordinary [5:05] yung mga gawa [5:06] samantalang kami per day. [5:08] So, [5:08] ibig sabihin, [5:09] P20,000 na binayad sa amin, [5:11] wala kaming nagawa [5:12] since the other day. [5:14] But P20,000, [5:15] hindi naman po [5:15] pinupulot [5:16] ng taxpayers yun [5:18] binabawas po [5:19] sa kanyang tawis [5:20] at dugo [5:21] sa kanyang taxes [5:22] yung pinambabayad po [5:24] sa mga senadores. [5:25] Kaya ang pinakamahalaga [5:26] siguro, [5:27] kung meron pa po, [5:28] I'm talking to [5:29] Senator Legarda [5:30] and Senator Joel Villanueva, [5:32] please come to work [5:34] dahil po, [5:35] dayad po kayo. [5:37] Whether pumasok tayo, [5:38] hindi, [5:39] binabayaran po tayo [5:40] ng mga employers natin, [5:41] ang employer natin, [5:43] ang mga Pilipino. [5:44] Mahiya po tayo, [5:45] let's come to work, [5:46] let's do our job. [5:48] Kung may pagmamahal pa po [5:49] kayo sa trabaho, [5:50] kung mahal niyo pa po [5:52] ang inyong constituents. [5:53] So you're making [5:55] that clear. [5:56] We need [5:56] the Senate [5:57] leadership, [5:58] whether it's [5:59] the Senate [5:59] president [6:00] or two members, [6:01] high-ranking members [6:03] of the Senate [6:04] majority [6:04] to actually [6:06] open [6:07] the session. [6:08] That's number one. [6:09] Number two, [6:10] when the minority [6:11] walked out [6:12] regarding the issue [6:13] on electronic [6:15] voting, [6:16] what's the session [6:17] affected then? [6:18] And the reason [6:19] this is important [6:20] to explain [6:21] is there's a confusion [6:23] all over social media. [6:25] Sinisise, [6:26] eh, inunahan nyo naman eh, [6:27] minority kayo [6:28] ang nauna, [6:29] kaya gumaganti sila. [6:31] Pero may session pa ba nun [6:33] nung nag-walk out [6:35] ang minority [6:36] regarding electronic [6:37] voting? [6:39] There was a session, [6:40] there was a roll call. [6:41] May roll call po, [6:43] Ms. Karen. [6:44] I mean, [6:44] dagtawag. [6:45] Lamang po, [6:46] actually, [6:47] lamang sila. [6:47] At that time, [6:49] kumpleto rin po kami [6:50] 11, [6:51] sila po, [6:52] nasa 12 po yata [6:53] sila noon [6:53] at that very moment [6:54] noon nagkaroon [6:55] ng roll call. [6:57] Nabawasan po kami [6:58] ng isa, [6:58] naging 10 kami [6:59] dahil si Senator Lito [7:00] nagpaalam na [7:01] meron po siyang [7:02] emergency [7:02] that he will [7:03] attend to something [7:04] sa Pampanga. [7:06] But there were [7:06] 10 of us. [7:08] Sila naman po yata, [7:09] I believe, [7:09] Senator Cheese left, [7:11] ang naiwan po [7:12] siya na 11. [7:14] And then suddenly, [7:15] ah, [7:17] ah, [7:17] tumayo po si [7:19] Senator Marcoleta [7:20] and then si, [7:20] ah, [7:21] Senator Cayetano, [7:22] si, [7:22] ah, [7:22] Senator President Cayetano [7:23] para i-push po nila [7:25] yung, ah, [7:26] section 41C [7:28] ng rule 14. [7:29] Dagdag po yun [7:30] kasi doon po sa, [7:31] ah, [7:32] section 40, [7:33] ah, [7:33] 14, [7:34] sa section B, [7:35] it states na, [7:37] ah, [7:37] during force majeure [7:39] and then natural emergency, [7:40] natural emergency, [7:41] pwede yung, ah, [7:43] ah, [7:43] ah, [7:43] ah, [7:44] video conferencing. [7:45] Sa section 10 naman, [7:47] ang dinagdag po ni [7:48] Senator Marcoleta, [7:49] gusto niya na [7:51] justifiable reason. [7:53] That's fine with us, [7:54] ah, [7:55] Ms. Karen, [7:55] that's okay with us, [7:56] the minority. [7:57] Sige, [7:58] kung gusto natin dagdagan, [7:59] but let's talk about it. [8:00] Why do we need this? [8:02] Why do we need [8:03] a justifiable reason, [8:04] ah, [8:05] aside from force majeure? [8:06] Unfortunately, [8:08] hindi pa nga po niya, [8:09] na hindi po namin [8:09] naririnig yung reason. [8:11] Senator Cayetano, [8:13] or sa Senatorsin Cayetano, [8:14] was already saying, [8:16] let's just divide the house. [8:17] Let's vote. [8:18] If, ah, [8:19] we'll include this [8:21] in our rules. [8:22] Hindi po yun ang tama, [8:23] ah, [8:24] Ms. Karen, [8:25] ang tama, [8:26] pagdibatihan natin, [8:27] mga panukalang batas, [8:29] mga, [8:29] idadagdag natin [8:30] sa rules natin, [8:32] let's talk about it, [8:33] kasi, [8:33] may kukontra dyan, [8:35] may agree dyan. [8:36] That's, [8:36] that's when you divide the house. [8:38] Hindi mo pa nga naririnig. [8:40] We haven't heard yet [8:41] the justifiable reason [8:42] that Senator Mark Coletta [8:44] was saying, [8:46] ah, [8:46] unless, [8:47] ah, [8:47] this is justified, [8:48] what is the justifiable reason? [8:50] Eh, [8:50] pero they wanted [8:51] to divide the house [8:53] and vote. [8:54] Talaga ma-outnumber kami, [8:56] Ms. Karen. [8:57] So, [8:58] our only option [8:59] was to, [9:00] to ikang walk out. [9:02] Ah, [9:02] iba naman po, [9:03] we were protecting [9:04] our rules, [9:06] we are protecting, [9:07] we were protecting [9:08] the institution. [9:10] na parang hindi [9:11] mabastos, [9:12] mabaliwala [9:13] ang mga rules [9:14] ng Senate. [9:16] Sa kanila naman po, [9:17] sinasabi nila, [9:18] ibang-iba po eh, [9:19] si kanila naman, [9:20] who are they protecting? [9:22] They're protecting [9:23] themselves, [9:24] they're protecting [9:24] their, [9:25] their colleagues [9:26] na, [9:27] ah, [9:27] in protest, [9:29] na nakakulong, [9:30] makulong, [9:31] ah, [9:31] they sympathize, [9:33] yung, [9:33] yung walk out po nila, [9:34] yung not having a session, [9:36] it's as a form of protest, [9:38] hindi nasabi nila, [9:38] napoprotesta daw sila, [9:41] sa pagkahuli ni Jingoy, [9:42] and there was [9:43] warrant of arrest naman, [9:44] there was due process naman, [9:46] hindi po ba, [9:46] they were advised, [9:48] and ever since pa lang, [9:49] that's what the people [9:50] have been waiting for, [9:52] na, [9:53] the executive department [9:54] will do, [9:55] what it promised, [9:57] na, [9:57] somebody will have to pay, [9:59] it's a flood control, [10:00] eh, [10:01] December pa, [10:02] sabi, [10:03] meron na lalabas na warrant, [10:04] ano na tayo ngayon, [10:06] May, [10:06] May na tayo, [10:07] June, [10:08] June pala lumabas yung warrant of arrest, [10:11] so what is, [10:11] and I think Senator, [10:13] it's important, [10:14] the institution, [10:16] sila, [10:16] they're protecting [10:17] the people, [10:18] themselves, [10:18] Yes, [10:21] and I think it's important, [10:23] to, [10:24] um, [10:25] have a difference, [10:26] in the wording, [10:28] the walkout, [10:29] was within, [10:31] a session, [10:32] the boycott, [10:33] is not even, [10:34] a walkout, [10:36] because when you boycott, [10:37] you can't walk out, [10:38] from anything, [10:39] pag nagboycott ka, [10:40] you're not even there, [10:42] you did not start, [10:43] the session, [10:46] that's true, [10:47] Ms. Karen, [10:47] tama ka, [10:48] exactly, [10:49] di ba, [10:50] we started, [10:51] there was a session, [10:52] okay, [10:53] there was, [10:53] roll call pa nga, [10:55] I, [10:55] I was passing, [10:56] and remember, [10:56] there were 23 of us, [10:57] then wala si, [10:58] wala si, [10:59] and Jingoy was still there, [11:01] di po ba, [11:02] ah, [11:03] pagkatapos, [11:04] kaya kami nag walkout, [11:05] because outnumbered kami, [11:06] that was the walkout, [11:08] sila, [11:08] talagang, [11:09] plinano nila, [11:11] na magboycott, [11:12] eh, [11:12] ang naproblema dito, [11:13] Ms. Karen, [11:14] hindi ma, [11:15] hindi naman kami factory worker, [11:17] na pwedeng magboycott, [11:18] ah, [11:19] dahil, [11:19] hindi namin gusto, [11:20] yung mga, [11:21] hanggang, [11:21] trabaho, [11:22] yung mga working hours, [11:24] yung, [11:24] ah, [11:25] treatment, [11:26] hindi rin kami mga estudyante, [11:27] hindi kami iskwalahan, [11:29] na pwede magboycott ang mga estudyante, [11:31] dahil, [11:31] hindi nila gusto yung pamamalakad ng school administration, [11:34] we are not a school, [11:36] we are not a company or corporation na magboycott, [11:40] we are the senate, [11:41] we do laws, [11:43] we pass laws, [11:44] di po ba, [11:45] we are being paid by the people to craft laws, [11:49] ikang, [11:50] for this nation, [11:51] for this land, [11:52] hindi kami binayaran na mag-aral, [11:54] hindi kami binayaran na magtrabaho dyan, [11:56] gumawa ng mga gamit, [11:58] hindi po, [11:59] kami po ay binayaran para gumawa ng batas, [12:01] ang binabayaran po sa amin, [12:03] ika nga, [12:04] yung pagbabalitaktakan, [12:06] paggawa ng mga batas, [12:09] pagbalangkas ng batas, [12:10] sa ikabubuti ng lahat. [12:15] Mm-mm. [12:15] Senator, [12:16] okay, [12:17] one of the accusations of the senate majority [12:21] is that the minority plans to change the committee chairmanships. [12:29] Kaya kapag nagkakorum daw, [12:31] plano ninyo na baguhin ang mga head, [12:35] ng komite. [12:36] Una, [12:37] totoo ba yun? [12:38] At number two, [12:39] posible ba yun? [12:41] Gayong labing isa kayo? [12:43] Yun ang tanong muna, [12:44] let's go procedural also. [12:46] Can you actually do that if you are 11? [12:49] Can you change committee chairmanships? [12:53] No. [12:54] According to the rules, [12:55] we have to have the numbers. [12:57] E kung wala nga po kami, [12:58] why is he so afraid? [12:59] Could this be the reason why he doesn't want to show up? [13:04] Because bata suddenly, [13:06] may mahimasmasan sa kanila. [13:08] Somebody finally made up their mind like, [13:12] enough with this. [13:13] No, [13:13] the minority is right. [13:15] Mali itong ginagawa namin. [13:18] Now, [13:18] one day, [13:18] they will just wake up. [13:19] Two of them will wake up and we say, [13:22] no, [13:22] we'll just join the minority. [13:24] Is that what he's afraid of? [13:25] Is this the reason also, [13:26] one of the reasons why, [13:28] there's no session? [13:30] Why, [13:30] why they keep on, [13:32] they continues not to show up? [13:36] Is this the reason? [13:37] Yun po ang tanong dun eh. [13:38] Bakit siya natatakot? [13:40] Eh, [13:40] wala nga po kaming number. [13:41] Paano makakapalitan ng komite? [13:43] We do not have the numbers, [13:45] Ms. Karen. [13:46] So, [13:46] hindi siya kumpiyansa. [13:47] So, [13:48] he doesn't trust his members. [13:50] Na baka, [13:51] tatlo, [13:51] dalawa, [13:52] apat sa kanila lumipat. [13:53] Dahil napapagod na, [13:55] at hindi na naniniwala [13:56] sa kanilang advocacy, [13:57] sa kanyang advocacy, [13:59] baka makapag-isip-isip [14:00] at lumipat. [14:01] Kaya, [14:01] might as well, [14:02] let's not just report to the Senate. [14:04] Yun po ba, [14:05] kinakatakot niya, [14:06] kaya po walang session? [14:07] Just because of the committee. [14:09] Aba, [14:09] Ms. Karen, [14:10] huwag niyang isipin niya, [14:11] nang isipin niya, [14:12] yung tao, [14:13] people need us [14:15] to do our job, [14:18] to craft laws. [14:20] Yun po yun eh, [14:21] hindi yung committee. [14:22] Wala po kaming number. [14:23] Ako na po nagsasabi, [14:24] wala po kaming number [14:25] para palitan. [14:27] Okay. [14:28] Oo. [14:28] Now, [14:29] Senator Tulfo, [14:30] a source told me [14:32] that [14:32] it's also difficult [14:35] for the minority [14:36] to actually win over [14:39] members of the majority. [14:41] I'll read [14:41] some of my sources. [14:43] Kasi kayo rin eh, [14:44] not you personally, [14:45] yung minority rin daw [14:47] ay unang-una mapili [14:49] at nang-iinsulto rin. [14:51] Kumbaga, [14:52] merong members of the minority [14:54] ayaw ng gantong senador. [14:56] Itong isang member ng minority [14:57] ayaw kung yun ang lumipat. [15:00] Kumbaga, [15:00] namimili rin daw [15:02] ang minority [15:03] ng sino ang lilipat. [15:06] What is the truth, [15:08] Senator Tulfo? [15:11] Sabi nga, [15:12] Ms. Karen, [15:12] beggars can't be choosy. [15:16] Yung mga choosers [15:17] na gusto nila kung ano, [15:18] wala kang choice eh. [15:20] Eh kung po pwede lang po, [15:21] pwede na nahikayatin sila [15:22] Robin Padilla, [15:24] si Bongo, [15:25] si Ivy Marcos. [15:26] Why not? [15:27] Di po ba? [15:28] So that magkaroon po kami [15:29] ng isang selit [15:30] na gumawa ng batas. [15:32] We're not talking anymore [15:33] of Ms. Karen [15:35] ng Duterte [15:36] versus Marcos. [15:37] We are talking already now. [15:39] We have to unite [15:41] to work [15:42] because delayed na [15:43] delayed na kami. [15:44] Wala kaming [15:44] ikanganagawa. [15:46] Yung sinasabi [15:47] na mamili, [15:49] hindi po kami [15:49] mamili. [15:50] Kung sino pang gusto, [15:51] di ba? [15:52] If you want to join us, [15:53] okay, [15:54] eh join us. [15:55] Kaya rin pipilitin. [15:57] Sabi ang sinasabi [15:58] ni Senator Jingoy, [15:59] eh yung promise [16:00] sa akin [16:00] na hindi na ako [16:01] kakasuhad. [16:02] Who are we [16:03] to say that? [16:04] Hawak ba namin [16:05] ng Sandigan Bayan? [16:06] Hawak ba namin [16:07] ng ombudsman? [16:07] May kapalit. [16:08] May kapalit [16:09] na hindi na ako [16:10] kapasuhan. [16:11] We can't do that. [16:12] We do not have [16:12] the power [16:13] or the authority [16:14] to ikang bargain [16:16] with them. [16:17] Sama ka sa amin [16:17] para wala ka ng kaso, [16:19] Senator Jingoy. [16:20] Sama ka na sa amin, [16:21] Senator Joel Villanueva, [16:22] para hindi ka na makasuhan. [16:24] Sama ka na sa amin, [16:24] kayong magkakapatid [16:25] na Bilyar [16:26] para absuelto na yung kaso [16:28] ang inyong mga magulang. [16:29] Do we have the power [16:30] to do that? [16:31] No. [16:32] Only the executive [16:33] has the power [16:34] to do that [16:35] na pwede niyang [16:36] ikang pakiusapan [16:37] siguro itong mga [16:38] kasamahan namin. [16:40] Pero kami, [16:40] wala po eh. [16:42] Hindi naman namin [16:42] under Sandigan [16:44] or ombudsman [16:44] or SEC [16:45] or what have you. [16:48] Paano kami [16:49] makapagtamili? [16:53] Ang sinasabi lamang po, [16:55] some of us, [16:56] most of them there, [16:57] have friends, [16:58] have been friends [16:59] with some members [17:00] of the minority [17:01] for long years na. [17:03] I will be honest to you. [17:05] Senator Meag, [17:07] Senator Wynne, [17:10] have been talking [17:11] to Senator Loren, [17:13] come on, [17:13] for all times, [17:14] join us. [17:16] Senator JV, [17:18] Senator Rafi, [17:21] Senator Wynne, [17:24] also, [17:25] have been talking [17:25] to Chise Scudero. [17:28] Diba? [17:28] We've been talking [17:29] and then [17:30] Senator Soto [17:31] and Senator Luxor [17:33] have been talking [17:34] to the Villar siblings. [17:36] Totoo po yun. [17:37] Pero wala na pong [17:38] nilalatag sa table [17:40] na mawabsuelto kayo [17:41] ganito. [17:41] Wala ho eh. [17:42] Because they were friends. [17:44] Dahil magkakaibigan sila [17:46] dati, [17:46] magkakasama, [17:47] nakasama lang. [17:48] Si Senator Villar, [17:49] nakasama nila po a while na [17:50] si Loret, [17:52] Senator Loren, [17:53] si Senator Cheese, [17:55] Senator Joel, [17:56] magkaibigan talaga, [17:57] magkumpare pa yata [17:58] yun, [17:58] Senator Mixon, [17:59] Senator Joel. [18:01] So normal yun, [18:02] napapakiusapan. [18:03] Pero yung mamili, [18:04] wala naman [18:04] nung kapinipili. [18:06] Yung principio na lang, [18:08] hindi po ba? [18:10] Okay. [18:10] So yung prinsipio pa rin. [18:12] Kaya nga, [18:12] I'm calling right now, [18:14] I'm asking for those, [18:16] kung may prinsipio pa po [18:18] yung makasamahan natin, [18:19] may pagmamahal pa sa [18:20] Pilipinas, [18:21] dahil sinasabi lang, [18:22] mahal nila ang Pilipino, [18:23] come to work today. [18:25] We will wait for you. [18:26] Open arms. [18:28] Let's debate. [18:29] Hindi namin aagawin yung mga [18:31] sinasabi ninyo [18:32] dahil wala kaming number. [18:34] Di ba? [18:34] Senator Cayetano, [18:35] SP Cayetano, [18:36] 11 lang kami. [18:38] Okay. [18:39] Now, [18:39] Senator Tulfo, [18:40] just very quickly, [18:41] since you did name [18:43] some of the majority senators, [18:45] and thank you for being [18:46] open about that, [18:47] that minority senators [18:49] were talking to, [18:51] was it, [18:52] was there any truth? [18:53] Let me also include this, [18:54] Ms. Karmso, [18:55] let me cut you there. [18:56] They also talked twice. [18:58] Ah, they did? [18:59] Ang gusto nila, [19:01] na lumipat kami, [19:03] ako, [19:04] si Senator Rafi, [19:06] Senator Lapid, [19:07] and Senator JV. [19:09] And then, [19:10] we asked, [19:11] ano ba meron dyan? [19:12] Okay, [19:14] ano ba pinaglalaban ninyo? [19:15] Hindi naman kami masagot din. [19:17] So why will we join them [19:19] kung hindi naman nila [19:20] mailatag, [19:21] ma-explain [19:21] what is their position right now? [19:24] What are their plans? [19:26] Kami nilatag namin [19:27] sa mga ito. [19:28] Ito na naman yung gusto namin, [19:30] magkaroon tayo ng [19:30] impartial na [19:32] impeachment trial, [19:36] magkaroon tayo ng yan, [19:37] yung gusto nyo, [19:38] mag-investigasyon, [19:41] let us crack laws, [19:42] let us pass laws, [19:43] ASAP. [19:44] Hindi naman nilatag namin. [19:46] Four of us, [19:47] they also invited us. [19:48] All of us. [19:50] Okay. [19:51] Now, [19:51] Senator Tulfo, [19:52] just very quickly, [19:53] was there truth [19:54] to the talk [19:56] that [19:56] Senator Chief Escudero [19:58] would have moved [19:59] to the minority [20:00] but his condition [20:01] was he become [20:02] Senate President? [20:04] Totoo ba yun at all? [20:07] Hindi ko na po [20:08] yun about Ms. Karen [20:09] because meron po kami [20:10] mga senior members [20:12] sa Senate [20:13] who were [20:13] talking to him [20:15] but ako hindi naman [20:16] ako close [20:17] kay Senators [20:19] Jesus Cudero. [20:21] So, [20:22] wala po akong idea. [20:23] I heard, [20:24] meron po mga gano'n na [20:25] talks [20:25] na [20:26] may mga [20:27] what can you have [20:30] what can you give me [20:31] may mga gano'n na [20:32] pero [20:32] yung particulars po [20:35] ng negotiations [20:36] na yung pag-uusap [20:37] wala na po akong idea [20:38] kung [20:38] is it really true [20:42] na in-offer yung [20:43] Senate President [20:43] pero [20:44] from the very [20:45] from the very [20:47] start naman po [20:48] yung stand po namin [20:50] it will always be [20:50] Senator [20:52] Wynne Gatchalian [20:53] who will be the [20:54] SP [20:54] if we get the number [20:55] so [20:56] alam po ni [20:56] Sen. [20:57] Jesus Cudero po [20:58] yun na [20:59] hindi po [20:59] maibibigay sa kanya [21:00] ang Senate Presidency [21:01] because [21:02] kami yung 11 [21:03] we've already [21:03] made up our mind [21:04] it will be [21:05] Sen. [21:06] Wynne Gatchalian [21:07] para [21:07] to have a fresh [21:08] start [21:08] to move on [21:10] kasi [21:10] Senator Wynne [21:11] is also okay [21:12] with some members [21:13] of the majority [21:14] Ms. Karen [21:15] Okay [21:16] well [21:17] that actually [21:17] makes sense [21:18] because [21:19] Senator Gatchalian [21:20] is experienced [21:20] and he would be [21:21] palatable [21:22] to both [21:23] the minority [21:24] the majority [21:25] and even [21:26] Malacanang [21:27] if you think [21:27] about it [21:28] but move on [21:30] let's move on [21:31] if [21:32] the majority [21:33] does not show up [21:34] today [21:35] ang sine [21:36] DNA ninyo [21:37] is on Friday [21:38] already [21:39] that would be [21:40] June 5 [21:41] right [21:41] halimbawa [21:42] wala nang [21:43] sesyon [21:43] hanggang [21:45] mamaya [21:45] walang trabaho [21:46] tatlong araw na [21:48] what happens [21:49] next [21:50] when does [21:51] the Senate [21:52] resume [21:53] as a legislative [21:54] body [21:55] when can you [21:56] get back [21:57] to work [21:57] as a Senate [21:59] kasi may [22:00] impeachment court [22:01] tatanungin ko yan [22:02] mamaya [22:02] pero [22:03] kailan na yun [22:04] kaya nga po [22:07] yesterday [22:07] we have [22:09] a joint [22:10] statement [22:11] that [22:11] Senator Cayetano [22:12] resigned [22:13] or [22:14] actually [22:15] come to [22:16] work [22:17] alright [22:17] let's [22:18] let's [22:18] talk [22:19] here [22:19] on the [22:20] floor [22:20] hindi yung [22:20] sa social [22:21] media [22:22] and invite [22:23] your members [22:23] to join [22:24] you [22:24] kasi [22:25] kasi siya [22:25] po [22:26] pala [22:26] ang [22:26] nagsabi [22:27] na [22:27] huwag [22:27] silang [22:28] pumasok [22:28] so [22:28] sinunod [22:29] po siya [22:30] so [22:30] I [22:31] think [22:31] kung [22:32] reasonable [22:33] pa rin [22:33] po [22:33] nasa [22:34] wish [22:34] pa rin [22:34] po [22:35] si [22:35] Senator [22:35] Cayetano [22:36] then [22:36] he would [22:37] have [22:37] he would [22:38] be telling [22:38] his [22:39] people [22:39] now [22:39] pasok [22:40] na tayo [22:41] at [22:41] trabaho [22:43] na tayo [22:43] two days [22:44] is enough [22:44] na magboykot [22:45] tayo [22:46] let's talk [22:47] about it [22:47] kasi nga po [22:48] wala na po [22:49] kami magagawa [22:50] it's beyond our [22:50] control [22:51] we're only [22:52] 11 [22:52] we are [22:53] waiting [22:54] unless [22:54] Senator [22:55] Ligarda [22:55] Senator [22:57] Villanueva [22:58] will come [22:58] and attend [22:59] we'll be happy [23:01] so let's say [23:02] Senator [23:03] Tulfo [23:03] they don't [23:04] come [23:04] talagang [23:05] panindigan nila [23:06] ang boykot [23:07] kailan ang [23:08] susunod [23:08] decision [23:09] that would [23:10] have to [23:10] be the [23:10] sauna [23:10] right [23:11] July [23:13] no [23:14] we'll have [23:15] to be [23:15] back [23:15] on the [23:16] impeachment [23:16] schedule [23:17] in [23:17] July [23:17] first [23:19] day [23:19] of [23:19] the [23:19] impeachment [23:19] trial [23:20] that is one [23:21] problem [23:21] again [23:22] pero sa [23:23] impeachment [23:24] court [23:24] you are [23:25] not back [23:25] as a [23:26] legislative [23:26] body [23:27] you are [23:28] back [23:28] as an [23:29] impeachment [23:30] court [23:31] iba yun [23:32] then pag [23:33] hindi po sila [23:33] sumipot [23:34] sa impeachment [23:35] as an [23:35] impeachment [23:35] court [23:36] then they're [23:37] sending [23:37] wrong [23:38] signals [23:38] Ms. Karen [23:39] ayaw nila [23:40] na magkaroon [23:41] ng impeachment [23:41] trial [23:42] ganun lang [23:43] naman [23:43] kasimple [23:44] yan [23:44] hindi [23:44] kasi [23:45] sipot [23:45] ibig sabihin [23:47] sa [23:47] July [23:47] 6 [23:48] ayaw [23:48] mo [23:48] ng [23:49] impeachment [23:49] trial [23:49] hindi po [23:50] kasi [23:50] sa hapon [23:51] po [23:51] yung [23:51] impeachment [23:52] trial [23:52] i believe [23:53] sa [23:53] umaga [23:53] pwede [23:54] po [23:54] kami [23:54] mag [23:54] session [23:55] kung hindi [23:57] po sila [23:57] sisipot [23:58] sa [23:58] umaga [23:58] then [23:59] we'll [23:59] have [23:59] a [23:59] problem [24:00] so [24:02] so [24:02] july [24:03] 6 [24:03] dapat [24:04] kasi [24:05] usually [24:05] as a [24:06] legislative [24:06] body [24:07] our [24:08] senate [24:08] resumes [24:09] technically [24:09] the day [24:10] of the [24:10] sauna [24:11] correct [24:12] usually [24:12] because [24:13] of the [24:14] impeachment [24:14] trial [24:15] we all [24:17] agreed [24:17] to report [24:18] on [24:18] july [24:18] 6 [24:19] okay [24:21] so [24:22] now [24:22] technically [24:23] you have [24:24] this will [24:24] be a [24:25] month [24:25] of [24:25] waiting [24:26] what can [24:27] happen [24:28] in a [24:28] month [24:29] sa [24:29] totoo [24:29] lang [24:30] while [24:30] congress [24:32] is on [24:33] recess [24:33] before [24:34] well [24:35] technically [24:35] it should [24:35] be [24:36] longer [24:36] recess [24:37] but [24:37] while [24:38] you're [24:38] on [24:38] recess [24:38] till [24:39] the [24:39] 6th [24:40] what [24:40] can [24:41] happen [24:41] in a [24:42] month [24:42] divine [24:44] interference [24:44] is the [24:46] only [24:46] way [24:46] that [24:46] can [24:48] resolve [24:48] this [24:48] impasse [24:49] divine [24:49] interference [24:50] na [24:50] dalawa [24:51] sa [24:51] kanila [24:52] mag [24:52] magbagong [24:53] isip [24:54] na [24:55] pumasok [24:56] or [24:57] to join [24:58] the [24:58] minority [24:59] or [24:59] something [25:00] like [25:00] that [25:00] or [25:00] pumasok [25:01] naman [25:01] lang [25:02] or [25:02] they [25:04] decide [25:05] those [25:05] 2 [25:05] or 3 [25:06] or 4 [25:06] of [25:07] them [25:07] will [25:07] decide [25:07] enough [25:08] is [25:09] enough [25:09] I [25:09] have [25:09] to [25:09] go [25:09] back [25:10] to [25:10] work [25:11] yun [25:11] lang [25:12] po [25:12] yun [25:12] i [25:13] guess [25:13] right [25:14] matigas [25:14] po [25:14] sila [25:15] kaya [25:15] nga [25:15] po [25:16] i [25:16] don't [25:17] pray [25:18] a [25:18] whole [25:18] lot [25:19] i [25:20] pray [25:20] like [25:20] sana [25:21] may [25:21] dalawa [25:21] po [25:21] na [25:22] para [25:22] makapagtrabaho [25:23] po [25:23] kami [25:23] dahil [25:23] naihiya [25:24] po [25:24] ako [25:24] i [25:25] get [25:25] paid [25:26] every [25:26] day [25:26] for [25:27] not [25:27] working [25:28] huwag [25:28] naman [25:28] okay [25:30] now there [25:31] were also [25:31] talks [25:32] my sources [25:33] tell me [25:33] on the [25:34] majority [25:34] side [25:35] that [25:36] some [25:36] of [25:36] them [25:36] did [25:37] ask [25:37] senate [25:38] president [25:39] not [25:39] some [25:39] maybe [25:40] one [25:40] or two [25:41] ask [25:41] senate [25:41] president [25:42] alan [25:42] peter [25:43] kayatano [25:44] to [25:44] give way [25:44] to [25:45] another [25:45] colleague [25:46] in the [25:47] majority [25:47] pero [25:48] ayaw [25:48] naman [25:49] daw [25:49] po [25:49] so [25:50] it [25:50] looks [25:50] like [25:51] that [25:51] won't [25:51] be [25:51] happening [25:52] right [25:53] maybe [25:53] anytime [25:54] soon [25:55] and [25:56] if [25:56] the [25:56] senate [25:57] president [25:57] refuses [25:58] to [25:58] resign [25:59] he [25:59] holds [26:00] on [26:00] to [26:00] his [26:01] post [26:01] what [26:03] is [26:03] the [26:03] plan [26:04] of [26:04] the [26:04] minority [26:04] what [26:05] happens [26:05] next [26:06] what [26:06] action [26:07] will [26:07] you [26:08] do [26:08] what [26:08] can [26:08] you [26:09] do [26:09] we [26:10] can [26:10] do [26:10] anything [26:11] except [26:11] that [26:12] do [26:12] sa [26:12] kanila [26:13] sa [26:13] grupo [26:13] nila [26:13] they [26:14] will [26:14] start [26:14] a [26:14] coup [26:15] detac [26:15] within [26:16] their [26:16] group [26:16] to [26:17] oust [26:17] him [26:18] overthrow [26:18] him [26:18] and [26:19] then [26:19] declare [26:20] that [26:20] that [26:20] seat [26:21] is [26:21] vacant [26:21] then [26:22] we [26:23] can [26:23] talk [26:23] it [26:23] over [26:23] on [26:24] the [26:24] floor [26:24] kasi [26:25] na [26:26] medyo [26:26] nasanay [26:27] po [26:27] yata [26:27] si [26:27] senator [26:28] si [26:29] senator [26:29] kay [26:30] itano [26:30] ginawa [26:30] niya [26:31] na po [26:31] iyan [26:31] dati [26:31] i think [26:32] in [26:33] 2020 [26:33] during [26:34] the [26:34] do [26:34] terty [26:34] administration [26:35] kaya [26:36] kaya [26:36] he was [26:37] forced [26:37] down [26:38] he was [26:38] directed [26:39] by the [26:40] president [26:41] dapat [26:41] he [26:42] shouldn't [26:42] be [26:42] directed [26:43] by [26:43] anybody [26:43] yan [26:44] po [26:44] yung [26:44] sinasabi [26:45] niya [26:45] yan [26:46] yung [26:46] kaba [26:46] niya [26:46] pinangungunahan [26:47] niya [26:47] na [26:48] independent [26:49] laging [26:50] nung [26:50] naririnig [26:51] independent [26:51] senate [26:52] hindi [26:53] kami [26:54] magpapadikta [26:55] kasi [26:55] nadiktahan [26:56] siya [26:56] dati [26:56] when he [26:57] was [26:57] the [26:57] speaker [26:57] of [26:58] the [26:58] house [26:58] president [26:59] duterte [27:00] told him [27:01] to [27:02] step [27:02] down [27:02] because [27:02] it [27:03] is [27:03] the [27:03] time [27:03] of [27:04] lord [27:05] alan [27:06] bilasco [27:06] as the [27:06] speaker [27:07] ayaw pa [27:08] niyang [27:08] bumaba [27:08] pinadlock [27:09] nga po [27:09] niya [27:10] yung [27:10] session [27:10] hole [27:10] para [27:11] wala [27:11] po [27:11] makapasok [27:12] and the [27:13] same [27:13] thing [27:13] ginagawa [27:14] niya [27:14] ngayon [27:14] ewan [27:15] ko [27:15] ito [27:15] mga [27:15] kasamahan [27:15] ko [27:15] para [27:16] mga [27:16] utu [27:16] utu [27:17] naman [27:17] pumapayag [27:18] na hindi po [27:19] sila [27:19] papasok [27:19] despite the [27:20] fact [27:20] na pinapasweldo [27:21] po sila [27:22] kaya nga po [27:22] we've been appealing [27:23] since the other day [27:24] please come to work [27:26] those who are still [27:27] in their [27:28] senses [27:28] pumasok [27:30] na kayo [27:30] senator [27:30] loren [27:31] senator [27:32] joel [27:33] senator [27:33] pia [27:34] cayetano [27:35] please come to [27:36] work [27:36] the villar [27:37] siblings [27:38] senator [27:39] ime [27:39] bongo [27:40] senator [27:42] robin [27:42] please come [27:43] to work [27:44] let's [27:44] discuss [27:45] you have [27:45] the numbers [27:46] di ba [27:46] or [27:47] kasi [27:48] ang problema [27:49] kasi [27:49] kinakabahan [27:50] si senator [27:51] cayetano [27:51] baka isaw [27:52] dalawa [27:52] saka [27:52] biglang [27:53] lumipat [27:53] pag nakita [27:54] po kami [27:54] so that's [27:55] why he [27:56] doesn't [27:56] want [27:56] them [27:56] to come [27:57] to [27:57] work [27:58] okay [28:01] now [28:02] senator [28:03] tulfo [28:03] the senate [28:04] blue ribbon [28:04] committee [28:05] has also [28:06] issued [28:06] formally [28:07] issued [28:07] invitations [28:08] for the [28:09] hearing [28:10] on [28:10] thursday [28:10] and [28:11] one of [28:13] the names [28:13] was invited [28:15] was former [28:16] speaker [28:16] martin [28:17] romualdez [28:17] and of course [28:19] other personalities [28:20] including [28:20] the [28:21] 18 marines [28:22] and one [28:23] of the [28:23] criticisms [28:24] kasi [28:24] with the [28:25] old [28:25] leadership [28:25] of the [28:26] senate [28:27] was it [28:27] went [28:28] soft [28:28] on [28:29] house [28:29] speaker [28:30] martin [28:30] romualdez [28:31] there [28:31] was [28:32] a [28:32] perception [28:33] that [28:33] the [28:34] previous [28:35] senate [28:36] blue [28:36] ribbon [28:36] committee [28:37] actually [28:37] did [28:38] not [28:38] pursue [28:39] the [28:39] angle [28:40] or the [28:41] accountability [28:41] of [28:42] former [28:43] speaker [28:43] martin [28:44] romualdez [28:45] what [28:51] is your [28:52] take [28:52] on that [28:52] isa [28:53] rin [28:53] daw [28:53] yun [28:54] sa [28:54] mga [28:54] dahilan [28:55] kaya [28:55] ayaw [28:56] pirmahan [28:57] yung [28:58] senate [28:58] blue [28:59] ribbon [28:59] committee [28:59] report [29:00] hindi [29:00] lang [29:01] dahil [29:01] yung [29:02] mga [29:02] nabanggit [29:02] na [29:03] mga [29:03] senador [29:04] kundi [29:05] merong [29:06] mga [29:06] personalidad [29:07] daw [29:08] that [29:09] senator [29:10] laxon [29:10] and [29:11] senate [29:11] president [29:12] tito [29:12] soto [29:13] protected [29:14] wrong [29:16] assumption [29:17] miss [29:17] karen [29:18] wrong [29:18] very [29:19] wrong [29:20] they [29:20] could [29:21] have [29:21] signed [29:21] it [29:22] and [29:22] then [29:22] wrote [29:23] with [29:23] amendments [29:24] under [29:25] protest [29:26] ginawa [29:26] ako po [29:27] yun [29:27] ako [29:28] yung [29:29] pangalawa [29:30] sa huli [29:30] na [29:30] pumirma [29:31] I [29:32] fixed [29:33] my [29:33] signature [29:34] and [29:34] I [29:34] wrote [29:35] there [29:35] with [29:35] amendments [29:36] because [29:37] me [29:38] the [29:39] vice [29:39] chair [29:41] person [29:42] of [29:42] the [29:42] blue [29:42] ribbon [29:43] hindi [29:43] rin [29:43] po [29:44] ako [29:44] nag [29:44] agree [29:45] no [29:45] makita [29:46] ko [29:46] na [29:46] kulang [29:46] kulang [29:47] to [29:47] wala [29:48] po [29:48] mga [29:48] members [29:48] ng [29:49] congress [29:49] except [29:49] for [29:49] saldiko [29:50] ang [29:50] hindi [29:51] po [29:51] included [29:52] doon [29:52] sa [29:52] filing [29:53] of [29:53] charges [29:54] I [29:55] did [29:55] not [29:55] agree [29:56] also [29:56] but [29:57] then [29:57] I [29:57] fixed [29:57] my [29:58] signature [29:58] para [29:59] mapag-usapan [30:00] namin [30:00] sa [30:00] floor [30:01] para [30:01] mapag-debatihan [30:02] namin [30:03] those [30:03] who will [30:04] agree [30:04] with me [30:05] will [30:05] say [30:05] yes [30:05] tama nga [30:06] naman [30:06] why [30:07] didn't [30:07] we [30:07] include [30:08] this [30:08] name [30:08] that [30:09] name [30:09] speaker [30:10] etc [30:10] whoever [30:11] they [30:11] are [30:12] hindi [30:13] po [30:13] sila [30:14] pumirma [30:14] talaga [30:14] at all [30:15] ayaw [30:15] po [30:15] nila [30:15] na [30:16] may [30:16] submit [30:16] yung [30:17] chairman's [30:17] report [30:18] kahit [30:18] yung [30:18] partial [30:19] report [30:19] pumirma [30:21] ka [30:21] para [30:21] may [30:21] submit [30:22] yung [30:22] partial [30:22] report [30:23] on the [30:23] floor [30:23] para [30:24] mapag-usapan [30:24] natin [30:25] i [30:25] signed [30:26] miss [30:26] karen [30:27] karen [30:28] sinasabi [30:28] nila [30:28] may [30:28] pinaprotect [30:29] i [30:29] signed [30:30] and i [30:31] wrote [30:31] there [30:31] with [30:32] amendments [30:33] ibig [30:34] sabihin [30:34] po [30:35] noon [30:35] sa [30:35] floor [30:36] i [30:36] will [30:36] ask [30:37] the [30:37] chairman [30:38] chairman [30:38] why [30:40] didn't [30:41] we [30:41] include [30:42] speaker [30:44] martin [30:45] rumwald [30:45] this [30:45] year [30:46] para [30:46] siya [30:47] lang [30:47] makakasangot [30:48] noon [30:48] why [30:49] hindi [30:49] hindi [30:50] hindi [30:50] nagtanong [30:50] din [30:51] sila [30:51] how [30:51] come [30:52] i [30:52] have [30:52] two [30:53] questions [30:53] only [30:53] why [30:54] is [30:55] the [30:55] speaker [30:55] ramold [30:56] his [30:56] name [30:56] not [30:56] included [30:57] it [30:57] how [30:58] come [30:58] it's [30:58] only [30:59] senators [30:59] who [31:00] are [31:00] here [31:00] what [31:01] about [31:01] the [31:01] people [31:03] from [31:03] congress [31:04] bakit [31:05] sisaldi [31:05] ko [31:06] lang [31:06] what [31:06] about [31:06] the [31:06] rest [31:07] and [31:07] bakit [31:07] itong [31:07] isa [31:08] lang [31:08] na [31:08] ex [31:08] congressman [31:09] what [31:09] about [31:10] the [31:10] rest [31:10] ang [31:10] binanggit [31:11] it [31:11] is [31:11] kaya [31:11] and [31:12] my [31:13] third [31:13] question [31:13] is [31:14] bakit [31:14] yung [31:14] ibang [31:14] mga [31:15] kontratista [31:16] walang [31:16] pangalan [31:17] dito [31:17] hindi [31:17] sila [31:18] included [31:18] that [31:19] should [31:19] have [31:19] my [31:20] question [31:20] miss [31:20] karen [31:21] unfortunately [31:22] hindi nga [31:22] natuloy [31:23] hindi nga [31:23] ayaw nila [31:24] pumirmay [31:24] kung talagang [31:25] gusto nila [31:26] maresolve [31:27] ang issue [31:27] they should [31:28] have [31:28] signed [31:28] it [31:29] senator [31:29] marcoleta [31:30] could have [31:30] said [31:30] kulang [31:31] ito [31:32] nasa [31:32] speaker [31:33] that [31:33] is [31:34] the [31:34] right [31:34] procedure [31:35] signed [31:36] it [31:37] so that [31:37] we [31:37] can [31:38] talk [31:38] it [31:38] over [31:38] on [31:39] the [31:39] floor [31:39] in [31:39] the [31:39] plenary [31:40] and [31:41] then [31:41] in [31:41] front [31:42] of [31:42] the [31:42] general [31:42] public [31:43] then [31:44] manunod [31:44] ang [31:45] publiko [31:45] then [31:45] sagutin [31:46] mo [31:46] as [31:47] the [31:47] chairman [31:47] hindi [31:48] kaming [31:49] pirmayan [31:50] kasi [31:50] hindi [31:50] included [31:51] sa [31:51] ganun [31:51] that's [31:52] not [31:52] the [31:52] right [31:52] thing [31:53] the [31:53] right [31:54] thing [31:54] signed [31:54] it [31:55] and [31:55] then [31:55] we'll [31:55] discuss [31:56] it [31:56] and [31:56] we'll [31:57] debate [31:57] it [31:57] on [31:57] the [31:57] floor [31:58] kaya [31:58] ho [31:59] kong [31:59] mayroon [31:59] may [31:59] mga [32:00] sumita [32:01] nga [32:01] sa [32:01] akin [32:01] pari [32:02] parang [32:02] wala [32:02] ka [32:02] naman [32:02] pakisama [32:03] sabi [32:03] pari [32:04] wala tayo [32:04] magdagawa [32:04] magdibate [32:05] na lang [32:06] tayo [32:07] I will [32:07] include [32:08] bakit [32:08] hindi [32:08] kasama [32:09] sa [32:09] report [32:09] ninyo [32:10] kaya [32:12] nga [32:12] gusto [32:13] ko [32:13] nilagyan [32:13] COVID [32:14] amendments [32:14] para [32:15] mapag-usapan [32:16] bakit [32:16] hindi [32:16] kasama [32:17] si [32:17] Martin [32:17] Romales [32:17] bakit [32:18] hindi [32:18] kasama [32:18] iba [32:19] mga [32:19] congressman [32:20] Ms. [32:21] I'm not [32:22] afraid [32:22] kung [32:22] magkaroon [32:23] ng [32:23] Blue [32:24] Ribbon [32:24] Report [32:25] fine [32:25] invite [32:26] me [32:27] alam [32:27] mo [32:28] sinasabi [32:28] kasi [32:29] ngayon [32:29] na [32:29] may [32:30] tinatago [32:31] ako [32:32] I'm not [32:33] included [32:34] sa flood [32:34] control [32:35] dahil [32:36] wala [32:36] naman [32:36] po [32:36] akong [32:37] flood [32:37] control [32:38] project [32:38] wala [32:39] po [32:39] akong [32:39] ganun [32:40] but [32:41] then [32:41] you [32:42] were [32:42] Senator [32:43] Tulfo [32:43] oh [32:45] Senator [32:46] Irwin [32:46] kasi [32:47] when [32:47] you [32:47] were [32:47] a [32:48] member [32:48] of [32:48] the [32:48] lower [32:48] house [32:49] you [32:49] were [32:50] designated [32:50] as [32:51] in a [32:52] way [32:52] the [32:52] spokesman [32:52] of [32:54] the [32:54] lower [32:54] house [32:54] and [32:55] to [32:55] a [32:55] degree [32:55] the [32:56] house [32:56] speaker [32:56] at [32:56] one [32:57] point [32:57] so [32:58] there [32:58] is [32:58] a [32:58] perception [32:59] that [32:59] you [32:59] were [32:59] very [33:00] close [33:00] to [33:01] the [33:01] house [33:01] speaker [33:02] you [33:02] were [33:02] in [33:03] the [33:03] inner [33:03] circle [33:04] of [33:04] what [33:05] was [33:05] going [33:05] on [33:06] how [33:06] the [33:06] budget [33:06] was [33:07] crafted [33:07] that [33:08] you [33:08] knew [33:09] essentially [33:10] all [33:11] the [33:11] shenanigans [33:12] that [33:12] happened [33:13] in [33:14] terms [33:14] of [33:15] allocations [33:16] with [33:16] the [33:17] budget [33:17] so [33:17] that's [33:17] the [33:18] perception [33:18] of [33:19] some [33:20] members [33:20] when [33:20] it [33:20] comes [33:21] to [33:21] you [33:21] I am [33:23] not [33:24] part [33:24] of [33:25] the [33:25] appropriations [33:26] committee [33:26] yung [33:27] nasa [33:27] appropriations [33:28] lang po [33:29] they meet [33:30] with [33:30] the [33:30] speaker [33:30] of [33:31] the [33:31] house [33:31] pero [33:31] ako [33:31] po [33:32] hindi [33:32] naman [33:33] po [33:33] ako [33:33] member [33:34] noon [33:34] ang [33:35] sa akin [33:35] I am [33:36] the [33:36] deputy [33:36] majority [33:37] leader [33:37] for [33:38] communications [33:39] meaning [33:39] to [33:40] say [33:40] I [33:40] handle [33:41] media [33:41] releases [33:42] yung [33:43] mga [33:43] activities [33:43] ng [33:44] senate [33:44] I [33:45] talk [33:45] to [33:45] the [33:45] reporters [33:46] ako [33:47] po [33:47] yung [33:47] spokesperson [33:48] tama [33:48] po [33:49] yun [33:49] pero [33:49] when [33:50] it [33:50] comes [33:50] to [33:50] budget [33:51] hindi [33:51] po [33:51] kasama [33:52] dahil [33:52] marami [33:53] pong [33:53] meeting [33:53] ang [33:53] speaker [33:54] may [33:54] mga [33:55] meeting [33:55] siya [33:55] sa [33:56] senior [33:56] leaders [33:57] ng [33:57] political [33:58] parties [33:59] and [34:00] then [34:00] may [34:00] meeting [34:00] po [34:01] siya [34:01] sa [34:01] amin [34:02] sa [34:02] communications [34:03] team [34:04] niya [34:04] or [34:05] what [34:05] what [34:05] what [34:05] do [34:05] we [34:06] have [34:06] what [34:06] will [34:07] be [34:07] our [34:07] press [34:08] release [34:08] tomorrow [34:09] Kong [34:09] Erwin [34:10] what [34:10] do [34:10] you [34:10] have [34:10] what [34:11] do [34:11] you [34:11] have [34:11] in [34:11] mind [34:11] and [34:12] then [34:12] sa [34:12] afternoon [34:12] may [34:13] meeting [34:13] siya [34:13] with [34:13] Saldico [34:14] and [34:14] members [34:15] of [34:16] the [34:16] appropriations [34:17] hindi [34:17] po [34:17] ako [34:18] kasama [34:18] doon [34:19] kasi [34:19] kung [34:20] dapat [34:21] kasama [34:21] po [34:21] ako [34:22] sa [34:23] cooperations [34:23] committee [34:24] hindi [34:24] po [34:24] ikaw [34:25] usap [34:25] niya [34:25] po [34:25] yung [34:26] mga [34:26] vice [34:26] chair [34:26] person [34:27] at [34:27] chairman [34:27] ng [34:28] APRO [34:28] so [34:29] I am [34:30] blinded [34:30] po [34:30] hindi [34:31] rin [34:31] ako [34:31] nagtatanong [34:33] kasi [34:34] nga [34:34] po [34:34] hindi [34:34] ko [34:34] naman [34:35] trabaho [34:35] hindi [34:35] ako [34:36] miembro [34:36] ng [34:36] APRO [34:36] baka [34:37] sabihin [34:37] bakit [34:38] ka [34:38] nandito [34:38] bakit [34:39] sumasama [34:40] sa [34:41] meeting [34:41] na [34:41] this [34:41] is [34:41] only [34:42] for [34:42] the [34:43] APRO [34:43] this [34:44] is [34:44] only [34:44] for [34:44] political [34:46] leaders [34:47] yung [34:47] different [34:47] parties [34:49] party [34:49] party [34:50] leaders [34:51] meeting [34:52] appropriations [34:53] meeting [34:54] communications [34:55] meeting [34:56] ako po [34:57] yun [34:57] sa [34:57] communications [34:58] okay [34:59] so [35:00] senator [35:00] Tulfo [35:01] I want [35:01] to thank [35:02] you so [35:02] much [35:02] for [35:02] joining [35:03] me [35:03] today [35:03] it's [35:03] so [35:03] sad [35:04] that [35:04] you're [35:04] not [35:04] on [35:04] zoom [35:05] but [35:05] I [35:05] appreciate [35:06] the [35:06] time [35:07] that [35:07] you [35:07] gave [35:07] head [35:08] start [35:08] this [35:08] morning [35:09] and [35:09] any [35:10] one [35:11] last [35:11] thing [35:11] is [35:12] there [35:12] anything [35:12] else [35:12] you [35:13] would [35:13] like [35:13] to [35:13] add [35:13] before [35:14] we [35:14] go [35:14] because [35:15] hopefully [35:15] you [35:16] will [35:16] have [35:16] a [35:16] session [35:16] later [35:17] at [35:17] 3 [35:17] today [35:18] or [35:18] who [35:19] knows [35:19] you [35:19] may [35:19] not [35:20] thank [35:20] you [35:20] thank [35:21] you [35:21] miss [35:21] Karen [35:22] I [35:22] would [35:23] just [35:23] like [35:23] to [35:23] address [35:24] this [35:24] to [35:25] my [35:25] colleagues [35:25] in [35:26] the [35:26] majority [35:26] including [35:27] po [35:27] senator [35:27] Alan [35:28] Peter [35:28] Cayetano [35:29] SP [35:30] please [35:31] come [35:31] to [35:32] work [35:32] senator [35:33] Ligarda [35:33] please [35:34] come [35:34] to [35:34] work [35:34] senator [35:35] Joel [35:36] please [35:36] come [35:37] to [35:37] work [35:37] lahat [35:38] po [35:38] member [35:39] majority [35:40] please [35:40] come [35:40] to [35:41] work [35:41] okay [35:41] hindi [35:42] na [35:42] po [35:42] namin [35:43] kung [35:43] natatakot [35:44] po [35:44] kayo [35:44] na [35:44] inganyuhin [35:45] kayo [35:46] kakausapin [35:46] hindi [35:46] po [35:47] namin [35:47] kikakausapin [35:48] mag-usap [35:49] po [35:49] tayo [35:49] dahil [35:49] marami [35:50] po [35:50] nakabimbin [35:50] na [35:50] batas [35:51] okay [35:51] we [35:52] need [35:52] to [35:52] work [35:53] mga [35:53] sir [35:54] mga [35:54] madam [35:54] pumasok [35:55] po [35:55] kayo [35:56] para [35:56] meron [35:57] po [35:57] tayong [35:57] quorum [35:58] magsisined [35:59] dyan [35:59] tayo [36:00] ng [36:00] Friday [36:00] wala [36:00] po [36:00] tayo [36:01] nagawa [36:01] for [36:01] the [36:01] past [36:02] three [36:02] weeks [36:02] please [36:03] come [36:03] to [36:03] work [36:04] we [36:04] are [36:04] being [36:04] paid [36:05] by [36:05] the [36:05] people [36:06] every [36:06] day [36:06] to [36:07] work [36:07] please [36:12] please [36:12] come [36:13] to [36:13] work [36:13] senator [36:15] erwin [36:15] tulfo [36:16] thank [36:16] you [36:16] very [36:16] much [36:17] sir [36:17] thank [36:17] you [36:17] thank [36:19] you