MSB Epstein oversight committee testimony Zoom Sept 11, 2025

[0:52] How are you starting, honey? [2:38] So nice to meet you. [2:39] I am unable to. [2:41] Okay, hold on one second. [2:42] Can you hear me now? [2:43] Yes, I can. [2:56] Sweet. [2:57] I'm technical. [2:58] Yay. [2:59] So I'm Tori, I'm a Congresswoman's Counsel and Policy Advisor. [3:05] Just want to thank you for reaching out and glad we were able to set this up. [3:08] Just real quickly, because I have some of the oversight staff on. [3:11] They just wanted to flag just kind of a standard whistleblower procedure. [3:15] Wonderful. [3:16] Thank you. [3:18] Hi, my name is Trinity and I am the whistleblower intake on the committee side of things. [3:30] And, you know, we just want to reiterate, and I'll probably say this many times throughout [3:37] this call, that we, you know, prioritize your safety first and foremost, your privacy to [3:47] the extent that you are, you know, comfortable with sharing things with us. [3:53] And you will keep, you know, information sharing very limited, you know, sort of like outside [4:01] of these conversations. [4:02] Mm-hmm. [4:03] Um, also want to acknowledge, um, how, um, invaluable, um, your testimony, um, and experience, um, in [4:19] coming to us today and speaking with us. [4:22] Oh, good. [4:23] Um, obviously not easy, um, to say the absolute least. [4:27] Um, but we are just so happy that, um, obviously wish it was under different circumstances. [4:36] Oh, seriously. [4:37] We are very, very, um, you know, interested in hearing your story. [4:43] And, um, definitely, um, I guess, and I want to say, I hate like trying to use like positive [4:53] words because none of this is positive. [4:55] No, right. [4:56] Well, we take this very seriously. [4:58] That's what I'm trying to say. [4:59] Good. [5:00] Good. [5:01] Thank you. [5:02] I appreciate it because, I mean, I've been trying to be heard for four or five years at [5:06] this point. [5:07] Um, I, I mean, I think I even started speaking up in 2019 when I was starting to put puzzle [5:12] pieces together. [5:13] So I really appreciate that this moment has finally manifested. [5:17] Yeah. [5:22] Just let me know what you guys, where you want me to start. [5:24] If you guys have leading questions. [5:26] Tori, did you have, uh, um, some questions off the top or, um, did you want me to take [5:36] it? [5:39] Um, I will let you all take it since you're more handling the actual investigation. [5:45] Um, and then I can, I do have any followups, um, and go from there. [5:50] Um, but just, you know, echoing everything Trinity say, we really, really appreciate your [5:53] time and speaking with us and bravery coming forward, um, and just really glad that we're [5:59] able to connect. [6:00] Thank you. [6:02] My husband is here also. [6:03] He, uh, we've been married for 20, 21 years at this point. [6:07] So he has heard the unraveling of this. [6:09] He was here when the Royal family called me. [6:12] He was here. [6:13] You know, I've been in the paper for certain things. [6:16] Uh, I'm trying to think of any other crazies that you've been around. [6:19] It's all been insane. [6:20] It's just, you're one of those people that things happen to. [6:23] Yeah. [6:24] What do you mean for stormy Daniels? [6:26] Oh yeah. [6:27] I just met stormy Daniels like three nights ago too. [6:29] So we were comparing notes. [6:30] So now we're just talking as well. [6:32] Just insane stuff. [6:33] I know. [6:34] It is insane. [6:35] I'm used to this. [6:36] I have had weird shit happening my whole life. [6:39] So I'm very used to this. [6:41] I feel, uh, really excited to get to this point that we're at right now with you guys. [6:46] Shaken. [6:47] Yeah. [6:49] My husband's shaken. [6:50] Uh, I, my nerves are used to this. [6:53] Um, but I'm, I'm so glad that we're finally at this point that we can hopefully get to next levels. [6:58] Um, cause it's frightening even as a citizen to just watch all of this crumble. [7:03] And then also someone who was raised in faith to see the book of Revelation like unfolding and a mother and a mother. [7:10] Yeah. [7:11] That too. [7:12] So, yeah. [7:13] Um, but I, uh, did you guys have questions? [7:17] I have a, I have like a printout. [7:19] I think I gave you guys some notes and I sent you guys some evidence. [7:22] Um, that's not even all the evidence. [7:24] Obviously I have a ton of other obvious audience, uh, evidence. [7:28] One of the things I did want to mention as well. [7:30] Um, that I didn't put in the notes or the pictures was when I did speak up, when I first started putting two and two together, [7:38] when I recognized Elaine Maxwell in the news and that she was that woman that, um, approached me at the gym when I was like 14 or 15 years old. [7:46] Uh, I spoke up about that. [7:48] I made the media about that. [7:49] And then when I saw Epstein's, um, house in the papers, uh, when they were finally like condemning, you know, tearing the house down, something that was like, Oh my gosh, I've been to that house. [8:00] I've been to that talk. [8:01] I've been to that boat slip. [8:03] Bless you. [8:04] And, uh, and so I was starting to put pieces together and pizza, people were telling me to reach out to Virginia Giuffre and Maria Farmer that they were spearheading this. [8:14] And they attacked me brutally the same way they did Rena. [8:18] Oh, I helped Rena. [8:19] Oh, even get the evidence against her. [8:21] I messaged her and I was like, Oh, they're bashing you. [8:23] They just did that to me. [8:24] You might want to come, you know, on Twitter and defend yourself or at least collect evidence. [8:29] And now she has been suing Virginia Giuffre. [8:32] And, uh, I don't know if you've read the articles, but she was afraid she was going to be losing her inheritance to, to Rena. [8:38] So there's a huge coverup. [8:41] As you obviously know, there's been people who have been assigned to be mouthpieces who are proven liars, fabricators, traffickers. [8:50] Virginia was proven with a Prescott, uh, judge root files that were released a couple, I think a year ago, but she was 18 when she trafficked 14 year old Carolyn. [9:00] She was, she was an adult who's been manipulating the system. [9:03] Um, and then, like I said, people were encouraging me to reach out. [9:06] She has a, she had an anti-trafficking organization. [9:09] I have screenshots where she publicly called me a liar. [9:12] I never met anyone. [9:13] And then Maria farmer made a whole bunch of terrifying art of me, mocking me. [9:17] She told people I was a meth head. [9:19] I have never done meth in my life. [9:21] My nickname for her. [9:22] Um, she told me, she told everyone I was Matthew Molly. [9:25] Um, it was, it was terrifying and it went on for three, three or four years. [9:30] And so that was very, yeah. [9:32] All through covert. [9:33] So that was very distressing as well that I tried reaching out to an organization and then was targeted by their mouthpiece, Virginia. [9:40] And, uh, also I reached out to Julie, Julie K Brown. [9:44] Actually, she reached out to me, Julie K Brown from the Miami Herald reached out to me and she said she would not print my story unless Virginia approved of it, which I had never met Virginia. [9:54] I believe Virginia knows my recruiter. [9:56] Uh, it was around, it was the same time. [9:58] It was 2001. [9:59] And that's when she was in that circle as well. [10:01] And it was Palm beach. [10:02] So I'm guessing she tried to publicly discredit me because my recruiter and her would likely know each other. [10:08] They're the same age. [10:09] Um, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention as well, that all of that's incredibly shady. [10:15] And, um, that, you know, there was nowhere for me to speak. [10:19] She elevated my voice at first because I posted about someone she didn't think was in the network, a billionaire Ray Huizenga. [10:25] He, his dad owned blockbuster Miami dolphins. [10:28] He tried to traffic me. [10:29] He tried to take me out of the country when I was 17 and I have newspaper clippings. [10:34] I have letters from him. [10:36] I have pictures. [10:37] Um, my dad was able to get like press and something that my mom was always writing to the papers and getting me the papers all throughout high school. [10:45] So she retweeted that. [10:47] And then when I started putting pieces together about Elaine Maxwell and all this stuff, they accused me of trying to crash their party and steal their fame and valor. [10:56] And it was, it was just wild. [10:57] And I reached out to representatives about that. [11:00] I reached out to so many people. [11:01] I was just ignored. [11:02] I ended up deleting my Twitter account because it was just so volatile over there. [11:06] Maria Farmer kept making fake accounts with my name and attacking me. [11:11] And it just got wild. [11:13] It was incredibly scary. [11:14] And the last thing you're after is fame. [11:16] And the last thing I'm after is fame. [11:18] Exactly. [11:19] Right. [11:20] I mean, I was an honor student. [11:21] I was planning to go to law school. [11:22] I was classically trained vocalist. [11:23] Uh, and the whole reason I, none of that ended up happening was, uh, the year before I was trafficked to the Epstein, Trump, Maxwell party, [11:31] I had been abducted and raped by a producer through an MTV event that I was scheduled to sing at, uh, as a plant. [11:38] And, um, he tried to take me to a business dinner to discuss, uh, opportunities. [11:44] And he ended up abducting and bringing me to his house, luring me into his house, pinning me down and raping me. [11:50] And I believe he recorded it because he then offered me singing work afterwards. [11:54] He turned on and off his computer around the assault. [11:57] And so I went inpatient into a hospital in Palm Beach a year later. [12:01] I had flunked out of school at that point. [12:03] I had pretended to graduate. [12:04] I didn't know what to do. [12:05] I was really freaked out. [12:06] The whole reason I didn't call the police the night that he raped me is because when I got home, I showered and I immediately showered all of the evidence off of me. [12:15] It was not inside of me to my knowledge. [12:17] Um, and I showered off the exterior. [12:20] I went online to rain the only website I knew at the time in the year 2000. [12:24] And it said, do not shower. [12:25] And I was gutted. [12:26] I was devastated. [12:27] Uh, I don't believe I got out of bed that entire weekend. [12:31] And, and then I pretty much flunked out of school at that point. [12:34] I was too scared to even go anywhere and pursue anything. [12:38] And I pivoted from singing entertainment and law to immediately started working in telecommunications just so I felt safe. [12:45] I was working as a rep at, um, uh, AT&T wireless. [12:49] And, um, I, I mean, I immediately pivoted over to that. [12:53] So a year later I was having suicidal ideations and I really just wanted to die, uh, from the anniversary. [13:01] I didn't even realize it was the anniversary either. [13:04] And, uh, I went inpatient to a hospital and it was Columbia hospital in Palm Beach. [13:11] And my roommate there was a recruiter for them. [13:14] So I went inpatient to try to tell on the guy who abducted and raped me, a cop that had abducted me from a high school party in, in high school. [13:22] Again, I was an honor student. [13:23] He offered to take me home because I wasn't drinking. [13:26] And I thought my dad would get a kick out of a police officer bringing me home. [13:30] And he took me to his house, dragged me into his house and assaulted me. [13:34] He wanted just, he assaulted me digitally, but he handcuffed me. [13:37] It was terrifying. [13:38] He wanted to date me. [13:39] One of my friends kind of set the whole thing up. [13:42] So another trafficking situation. [13:44] So, and I was also raped when I was nine years old. [13:46] So I was trying to report all of these people at that hospital. [13:50] And then my roommate ended up being a recruiter for Epstein, Maxwell and Trump. [13:56] So as soon as I got into the room, she said, don't tell them anything. [14:00] They'll hold it against you. [14:01] They'll use it against you. [14:02] And I was like, who is they? [14:04] Because my family was never involved. [14:06] And my recruiter, Lisa Ghislaine Villeneuve, she was born into it from what I learned from her. [14:13] So we became friendly in, in, in, in the place. [14:18] She said, you know, don't trust anyone here. [14:21] She said, don't trust anyone here. [14:23] The orderlies will drug and rape you in your sleep. [14:25] The first night I was there, I awoke to an orderly on top of me, drugging me. [14:29] And he said he was taking blood work when I was already asleep. [14:32] And since this was the first time I was ever in a facility like this to get help, I didn't know any protocol of what I should be expecting. [14:39] But I did wake up to him literally on top of me, my arm in a tourniquet and him taking blood while I was sleeping. [14:45] And then he said he was giving me something to help me sleep. [14:49] I believe he raped me. [14:50] I found another survivor from that same place who has identified the same man when she was 15. [14:56] She said he raped him, her. [14:59] So I've just been putting all these pieces together and, and, and it's just been horrifying. [15:04] So then Lisa and I became friendly. [15:06] She wanted, she said, you seem really cool. [15:09] And then I told her a lot about my sexual abuse. [15:12] Obviously when I was there, I was divulging it to her and entrusting it to her. [15:16] And I was living up in Orlando at the time and she was still down in Lake Worth. [15:21] And my dad lived on Singer Island at the time. [15:24] So they were really, really close to each other. [15:26] So once I got out of the hospital, she was calling me and telling me, you know, you should come out and come down and hang out. [15:33] So it was getting to be around the holidays. [15:35] I met her shortly after I met her. [15:37] I think it was like September again, because like I said, it was the anniversary of that abduction. [15:42] And, um, the party that I went to was shortly after 9 11. [15:47] So just to put it in perspective of what the timings all were. [15:50] So we became friendly. [15:53] I went over to her house. [15:54] She had a gigantic mansion and she lived in the master bedroom and she was only 19. [16:00] And I believe at this point I was 22. [16:03] And I remember asking her, how do you have the master bedroom? [16:07] Like it had giant balconies, a giant bathroom. [16:10] It had a fireplace. [16:11] It had a wet bar. [16:12] And she's 19 years old with two older brothers and parents. [16:16] And, uh, she told me that she outranked her parents. [16:20] And I didn't know what that meant. [16:22] I, my family referred to her as loony Lisa. [16:25] If that puts anything into perspective of how much we believed this girl or just thought she was a fanatis. [16:30] I wasn't sure what her deal was. [16:33] Now I see that she was born into it. [16:35] And a lot of things she was telling me were truths or half truths, um, that it was not all just made up. [16:40] So I was over at her house one time and we were hanging out. [16:44] Uh, we'd hung out a couple of times. [16:46] And she said, she said, Molly, I have this guy, Kurt Schmidt, who wants to meet you. [16:53] He is very interested in you. [16:55] She said he had seen my modeling portfolio. [16:57] And I, I took that as a red flag because I didn't have a public modeling portfolio that anyone could see. [17:03] I had done just a little bit of modeling because I was more of a singer than anything else. [17:07] I have physical disabilities. [17:09] So I'm limited in what the things I can do. [17:12] I was born with genital hip dysplasia. [17:14] I've had my hips replaced, my knees reconstructed just so I can walk. [17:17] So I really was not doing the modeling. [17:20] It was too physical on my body. [17:22] And my dad really did not want me to do modeling. [17:24] My dad was born in Hollywood to a radio tycoon. [17:27] And he purposely did not raise us there because it was not a safe place. [17:31] He knew about the industry. [17:33] He's the one who protected me from that billionaire, uh, in, in, in high school that tried to take me out of the country. [17:39] My dad said, there's not a, there's not a chance in hell. [17:42] A grown house billionaire is taking my underage daughter into international waters. [17:46] And I remember that statement verbatim. [17:48] And it was one of the first times I'd heard about human trafficking other than my modeling agents. [17:52] So I was, I was, I had three agents when I was in high school, Boca Talent, uh, Ada Gardner and, um, Sarah Parker model and talent agency. [18:01] And all of them told me to stay away from elite, which was owned by Trump and stay away from Casablanca that those were human trafficking organizations. [18:08] They were catfishing, they were selling, um, just basically said they were targeting families who didn't know better into taking classes and trafficking and recruiting. [18:19] And cause I was asking, you know, I want to, uh, all these things look legit. [18:23] Like they're, they're, they're connected with Vogue. [18:25] They're connected with this. [18:26] They're connected with cover world. [18:27] They're connected with this. [18:28] And my agents would say, those are all like fabricated events that they make. [18:33] They're all internal events that they make. [18:35] So she was warning me to stay away from all of those that that was human trafficking and, and, and catfishing and exploitation, uh, and money laundering. [18:44] So, um, so anyway, so I was over at Lisa's house that one day and she tells me out of nowhere that her friend Kurt Schmidt, uh, likes me and wants to meet me. [18:57] And some of the words that she used were, she said, he, she said something like he's currently in a relationship, but she's a stick in the mud and he's not enjoying his girlfriend experience. [19:08] Those are the words she used girlfriend experience, which I'd never heard those words. [19:12] And they raised a red flag for me at the time. [19:15] Now, now I know, uh, I think you guys saw some of the evidence. [19:18] There was Trump escorts and it mess and it mentions GFE girlfriend experiences. [19:23] All of that is available on the way back machine. [19:25] And also people have confirmed that they saw it at the time. [19:28] Uh, especially like dancers at clubs and stuff. [19:31] They were like, Oh my God, we were very aware of that website. [19:33] It's very real. [19:34] So you can look it up on the, on the way back machine. [19:36] It's still up there and you can find all that information and how it's all just been repeated onto mystique companions. [19:43] Now it's out of China. [19:44] So, so she said to me, uh, Kurt is not enjoying his girlfriend. [19:51] She's a stick in the mud. [19:53] And I said, well, why doesn't he just break up with her? [19:55] And she said they have a contract. [19:57] So this is the thing people aren't talking about are these fake contracts. [20:00] And this is what I was offered. [20:02] So, um, she said he's, she said he was complaining that the girlfriend he had was a stick in the mud and that he wasn't enjoying his girlfriend experience. [20:12] And I thought those were very weird words. [20:14] And, um, but I'm also partly a journalist. [20:17] Uh, I was on the debate team in high school. [20:19] I did the, I wrote for the newspaper and I also did the morning news. [20:23] I was the morning news anchor. [20:24] And I also did some of that in college as well. [20:26] So that was part of my track was to investigate things. [20:30] And, and I'm just fascinated with these things, especially surviving rape. [20:34] When I was nine, I became very aware of what was happening under our noses and what it all led to. [20:42] So I'm over at her house and I'm just taking mental notes. [20:45] And she says she wants me to meet him. [20:47] And so I agreed to, and I, cause I wanted to see what it was all about. [20:52] And so she brought me to the Epstein party on Palm Beach Island. [20:56] She picked me up and, uh, we went to Clematis street. [21:00] I don't know if you know where any of this is, but Palm Beach, Palm Beach Island, right before the island is downtown West Palm from the area. [21:06] Okay. Okay. Perfect. [21:07] So, um, she goes, so we stopped at the end of Clematis street. [21:10] We're just about to go over the bridge and she picks up this guy, Bobby Cox. [21:14] And he gets in the car and he gets in the back seat and she has a dark and black SUV completely blacked out. [21:20] And, uh, he gets in the back seat and he introduces himself and he says, hi, I'm Bobby Cox. [21:26] He says, I'm a model scout. [21:28] And I go, Oh, I'm a model. [21:30] And then Lisa goes, he's not a model scout. [21:33] He's a pimp. [21:34] And I'm like, I don't know how those are interchangeable. [21:36] I've never heard of that in my professional career that those things are interchangeable. [21:41] So I wasn't sure what was going on if they were just buddies and just pushing my buttons for like, um, sensationalism. [21:49] So I just kind of let that slide. [21:51] And so we get over to Epstein's, we pull into the driveway. [21:55] We actually ended up going in through the gate and going right into the backyard. [21:59] We did not go in the front door. [22:00] So we parked in, and he's got like a half circle. [22:03] We parked over to the right of the half circle and went in through the gate. [22:07] He had a gate over there that went into his backyard and we made a beeline straight for the dock. [22:12] And that is where Kurt was on, on, on the dock, uh, on a boat. [22:17] He was living in exile in the Atlantic ocean. [22:20] He was a heroin junkie. [22:21] And basically what Lisa was telling me was he needed a good girl. [22:25] He needed a good cover girl to get him off drugs, to make him look suitable and to get him his inheritance [22:31] so that he could be employed with Campbell soup. [22:34] So basically it was like a glorified babysitting job. [22:37] And she was telling me that he would get a hundred thousand a year to start. [22:41] And I would get 10% of that. [22:43] And I was like, well, that's no money. [22:45] And, and that doesn't make any, like, that's not even a thousand dollars a month. [22:48] And so it was calculating my head just really quickly of, okay. [22:52] So I would have to have other John's other boyfriends in order to actually make my ends meet. [22:57] So I was just taking notes and, and, and just playing along in the sense of an undercover journalist, [23:04] um, trying to get to the bottom of these things. [23:07] And, uh, so we try to hold on one second. [23:12] Um, with Kurt, so I'll just keep going. [23:17] So, oh, that's what it was. [23:19] Um, they said that he was living in exile on his parents yacht in the Atlantic ocean that he was, [23:25] he was basically kicked out of the house and he was living there and he was a heroin junkie. [23:29] And, um, but I guess whatever his girlfriend experience was to try to get him on the good track, [23:34] she was too much of a stick in the mud and he wasn't having any fun. [23:38] I took it out. [23:39] He, I thought he was gay just for reference. [23:41] And I still think he might be. [23:43] Um, I think he just needed a beard or a cover or whatever these things are. [23:47] So I'm on the yacht. [23:49] I get on the yacht. [23:50] I'm on there with Lisa. [23:51] Kurt is there. [23:52] He has a shirt off and he's air guitaring. [23:54] He's very tan, obviously laying out in the sun all the time. [23:56] He has white bleach blonde hair and a zit on his forehead covered in orange makeup. [24:01] And right. [24:02] What a looker. [24:04] So I get on the yacht and, uh, he's air guitaring and just being such a weirdo. [24:09] And he's in his like thirties. [24:10] And I was in my twenties. [24:11] I mean, I don't know how old he was. [24:13] I'd have to go look up how old he was exactly. [24:15] But I was 22 and he was older than me. [24:18] And, um, he was ignoring me. [24:20] And I told Lisa, I go, I don't think he's interested in me. [24:24] And she goes, no, he's really interested in you. [24:26] And then, so she was trying to get us to talk. [24:28] It was Bobby Cox was on the boat. [24:30] Um, uh, Kurt Schmidt was on the boat. [24:33] Lisa Villeneuve was on the boat and I was on the boat. [24:36] So it was just the four of us. [24:37] So we're hanging out and he's not speaking to me at all. [24:41] He was just really weird. [24:42] So at one point, Lisa brings me over to a drink cart and says, Molly, come over here. [24:46] I want to talk to you. [24:47] So I go over to the drink cart. [24:48] She starts making me a drink, which I don't drink. [24:50] So, and I don't drink for this reason. [24:52] I was drugged. [24:53] Um, do you know, uh, Enigma? [24:56] Have you ever heard of Enigma, Tori? [24:59] In West Palm Beach, the gay club. [25:01] It's been there forever. [25:02] Yes. [25:03] Yes. [25:04] Okay. [25:06] Yes. [25:07] So, um, I don't. [25:08] Oh, I was drugged there. [25:09] That's why I was bringing it up. [25:11] I was drugged there by just a glass of water. [25:13] Um, so I don't like my drinks are covered. [25:17] I, no one's allowed to make me a drink. [25:19] I do not accept drinks. [25:20] The guy who lured me into my, into his house and pinned me down and raped me, offered me [25:24] a drink as soon as I got in the house and I declined it. [25:26] So Lisa was making me a drink and she called me over to the drink cart while Kurt and, and [25:32] Bobby Cox were hanging out and I go over to the drink cart and she goes, so what do you [25:35] think of Kurt? [25:36] And I go, I think he's a goofball. [25:38] And she said, um, well, he really likes you. [25:41] And I said, well, he has a very funny way of showing it. [25:43] He hasn't said two words to me. [25:45] And so she starts making me a drink and she goes to hand it to me and I go, I don't drink. [25:48] And then she started looking really concerned, uh, that she couldn't control me. [25:53] And, um, she's, so then Kurt comes over to the drink cart and he goes, is she good? [25:58] Is she cool? [25:59] He goes, is she cool? [26:01] And Lisa goes, no, she's not cool. [26:03] And I said, yes, I am. [26:04] I'm very cool. [26:05] And then she says, no, he means for sex. [26:08] And I said, ew, I just met you. [26:10] And then he said no for Coke. [26:12] I was going to offer you Coke. [26:13] And then Lisa was like, no Coke. [26:15] You're not allowed to have any Coke. [26:17] So it was just a weird interaction. [26:19] And so I got off the boat. [26:21] I basically wanted to leave at that point and wanted to ditch them and just kind of walk [26:24] around the party. [26:25] I wanted to see what the party even was. [26:27] Uh, I thought it was just a normal party in the area, especially with the holidays coming [26:32] up. [26:33] I wasn't sure like what it was or, or what was going on there. [26:36] So I got off the boat, I got to the dock and there were men talking to groups of women, [26:42] uh, gorgeous models, beautiful people, younger and my age all over the place. [26:47] So that's why I wasn't sure what kind of party it was because of all of the age differences, [26:51] but all of the men there seemed to be older, like at least in their twenties and up. [26:55] And, uh, so I infiltrated one conversation with these two models, talking to this man in a suit [27:02] or in a, uh, in a, yeah, in a suit. [27:05] And, uh, I go over and I start talking to them and I'm trying to like ignore Lisa at this point [27:09] and ignore them cause they've kind of freaked me out with, with the yacht shit. [27:13] And, um, she goes, uh, she goes, Molly, you can't, everyone's having their own private meetings [27:20] and you can't just infiltrate their conversations. [27:23] They're directors, they're, they're producers, they're, they're model scouts or this and that. [27:26] So they're having their own private conversations. [27:28] And I was just, I thought that was super duper weird. [27:32] Cause there were easily a hundred people at this party. [27:34] So everyone's having private meetings at this party outside the house on the dock next to the pool, [27:40] all this stuff. [27:41] So it was really weird and not making sense. [27:43] So they pulled me away from those people, um, and brought me over towards the house. [27:49] I was, I was outside the sliding glass door cause I was telling Lisa, my hair is naturally curly. [27:54] I'm a diva and I didn't mean to be, but it was poofing out. [27:58] And I was like, Lisa, I want to go in the house. [28:00] Like I'm getting frizzy and sweaty. [28:02] It's still hot in Florida at this time. [28:04] And so she starts freaking out that I'm demanding to go inside the house. [28:08] And she says, let me find out if you can go in. [28:10] And again, I'm like, what kind of party is this? [28:12] I can't walk into someone's house. [28:14] So she leaves me outside with Bobby Cox right outside a sliding glass door. [28:19] She goes inside and she says she has to talk to, uh, the madam of the house. [28:25] And I can't remember if she used, I thought she used the word madam, but then on top of it, Ghislaine, the way she was talking about it was she was like foreign. [28:33] Um, so I wasn't sure if that was just a French title that her name being madam, it wasn't making sense until obviously later. [28:41] And then obviously it started making sense when she starts trying to traffic me to the next person was talking about contracts and such. [28:47] So I'm outside the house and Bobby Cox goes, so you didn't like Kurt, huh? [28:51] And I, and he goes, what kind of millionaire billionaire are you interested in? [28:55] And I'm not. [28:56] So I told him, uh, one with a foot in the grave, one that can't chase me down and rape me one that can't hurt me. [29:02] And he goes, oh, so you want an Anna Nicole Smith situation. [29:05] And I said, yeah, yeah, find me one of those thinking that that's not going to happen that we're just talking shit. [29:11] So I said, yeah, find me one of those. [29:14] So Lisa then comes out at that moment and says, I'm allowed to come inside. [29:17] And so I come into the house and I come into, I think we came through the kitchen and then we ended up in like the living room by the front door. [29:25] And we were just standing there and Lisa said, you know, don't go anywhere. [29:29] She had to go, you know, run around because she was a recruiter there. [29:32] So she was working. [29:34] So I'm standing there in like the middle of the, the, the, the, by the doorway. [29:39] Um, and behind me, there is a door, uh, open a room open and it's all red. [29:45] It's red. [29:46] It's red lights in there. [29:48] Like they have the lamp. [29:49] It has, it's, it's got a red light on it and lampshades. [29:52] And it looked like a girl was sleeping on the bed and she looked young. [29:55] She looked like a middle schooler. [29:56] And that's why I thought maybe, right. [29:58] And that's why I thought maybe, oh, this was a holiday party. [30:02] Like this is people with their kids. [30:04] And I like, I just couldn't wrap my head around what this party was. [30:08] And then there were people in the room, like making out around her and talking around her. [30:12] And she was just sleeping there. [30:13] And Lisa came over and shut the door really quickly and said, do not go into any rooms. [30:18] These are private meetings. [30:19] You are not allowed to go in them. [30:21] And I was, the way she acted really caught me off guard. [30:24] It was very, very weird. [30:26] So, um, also I think I found the girl who's in that room. [30:31] She's been speaking up. [30:32] Shia LaBeouf's twin sister was trafficked and she was trafficked through Epstein's as well. [30:37] And she said she was, uh, drugged many times and brought to red rooms. [30:41] So I've been meeting a lot of people just speaking up and trying to connect dots of what this network does. [30:46] But I mean, I know it sounds unbelievable, but I mean, here we are. [30:50] This is, this is where we're at. [30:52] It sounds unbelievable. [30:53] And it sounds unbelievable so that they can get away with it. [30:56] That's, that's how they get it. [30:57] It's the cognitive dissonance. [30:58] It's, it's, it's so unbelievable. [31:00] We just shut off our brain and say that can't be happening. [31:02] And they're having a grand old time because it's so easy for them to orchestrate, especially with our cognitive dissonance. [31:08] So, um, we're inside the house at this point. [31:11] Lisa comes over, shuts that door, tells me not to go anywhere. [31:14] Don't go into any rooms. [31:15] And then right at that moment, she walks away again. [31:17] And then at that moment, Ghislaine Maxwell starts coming down a spiral staircase, which I can see right in. [31:23] It's like just right at the end of my vision. [31:25] Um, the door was here and then the staircase was over here. [31:29] And I was like here. [31:30] So Ghislaine Maxwell starts coming down the stairwell and I didn't recognize her at first because I didn't recognize her from when I met her when she was baiting me with Victoria's secrets at the gym when I was 14 or 15. [31:42] And, uh, so she comes, she's coming down the stairs and she makes an announcement and it's like, I want to say it's like 10 o'clock. [31:48] It's not that late. [31:49] And she makes an announcement. [31:50] She says, uh, ladies and gentlemen, we are, we have been invited to Mar-a-Lago by a personal invitation of Donald Trump. [31:57] Please take your things and let's head over to Mar-a-Lago. [32:00] Cause obviously Mar-a-Lago was much, much bigger than Epstein's place. [32:03] Epstein's place was not that big. [32:04] Lisa's place was bigger than Epstein's place. [32:07] So everyone starts like going out the door and shuttling over there. [32:11] And then Lisa comes up to me and, and, and I said, we're going to Mar-a-Lago. [32:16] I'd never been, so I was really excited. [32:18] And I thought this party was really weird and maybe it was a little bit better over there. [32:22] Maybe they had real drinks and like food and stuff like it was just super weird. [32:25] And, uh, so she goes, she goes, who said you could go to Mar-a-Lago? [32:29] And at this moment, Ghislaine Maxwell was coming by me. [32:33] She was walking by me. [32:34] And I said her, she said we could all go. [32:36] And then Ghislaine Maxwell touched my arm and said, yes, you're all invited. [32:40] Please join us. [32:41] And then she was facilitating people walking out the door and getting like people shuttled [32:46] over to Mar-a-Lago. [32:47] And Lisa looks at me and she goes, Molly, you can't go. [32:51] You're not invited. [32:52] And I go, she just said everyone's invited. [32:54] And she said, I'm trying to remember verbatim what she said, but she said, Molly, it's not safe. [32:59] Oh, first she said, they're just looking for prostitutes. [33:02] And I go, well, I don't think a hundred people are prostitutes. [33:07] And I don't think Donnie can, excuse my language, fuck all of us. [33:10] And cause I, again, I didn't know what she was talking about, nor did I believe I was [33:15] in any kind of danger whatsoever. [33:18] So I thought she was overreacting. [33:20] I really wanted to go to Mar-a-Lago and she goes, she goes, Molly, it gets rough quick. [33:25] Um, I'm trying to, did she say other things? [33:29] My mind's a blank right now. [33:31] Um, so she said, oh, she said, we'll go home and look through Forbes magazine for more [33:37] millionaires billionaires to look at and, and pick out like, um, and, and she said she was very, um, she was very much monitoring my food intake as well. [33:48] She was always commenting on what I was eating and that I needed to lose weight or be skinnier or, or whatever. [33:54] And I would ignore her cause it was really annoying. [33:57] I grew up with that lifestyle anyway. [33:59] And so one of the things she said was let's, we'll get ice cream and look through Forbes magazine. [34:05] So she was trying to get me to leave with her back to her house. [34:09] And, um, at that point we left, we went back to her house. [34:13] And I remember the whole night she kept trying to go to sleep like immediately. [34:16] And I was wired and she was like, Molly, go to sleep. [34:20] Molly, go to sleep. [34:21] Molly, go to sleep. [34:22] Molly. [34:23] You're so annoying. [34:24] Go to sleep. [34:25] And I'm an insomniac. [34:26] I don't sleep for days unless I'm on sleeping pills to begin with. [34:28] I have so much trauma from, I just don't trust the world. [34:32] So, uh, I don't know. [34:34] Other people have come out and said you could have been drugged that night and trafficked that night. [34:37] And you would never know because that's the thing is they're drugging people. [34:40] And that's the thing no one's talking about. [34:42] They're not talking about the drug games. [34:44] They're not talking about the contracts. [34:46] So, um, the next day, uh, I was home and Lisa called me again and said that she found an old guy. [34:54] Uh, uh, she said it was, he was a poet laureate, Billy Collins, and he was the poet laureate of 2001 through Clinton. [35:03] And she said he was an older man. [35:05] Um, I think he was in his sixties at the time and I was in my twenties. [35:09] And she said, he really wanted to meet you. [35:11] He's looking for a wife, not a girlfriend. [35:15] He's looking for a wife and that he lives at the colony house on Palm Beach Island. [35:20] And he has a, uh, uh, uh, uh, an apartment there and it's worth a couple million dollars. [35:26] This is all the stuff she was telling me. [35:27] And then she was also telling me before with the Kurt stuff. [35:30] And, and now with this guy that I would have to sign a contract with Madame, Madame Maxwell, Madame, Madame Ghislaine, whatever she, however she was referring to her as. [35:39] And since I knew the name was Ghislaine, I figured it was French and that that's just what they called people. [35:46] Like it never occurred to me. [35:47] Like it never occurred to me. [35:48] She was a matter of Madame. [35:49] So, or that these contracts were these kinds of things. [35:53] So Lisa told me with the, with the poet laureate that he was looking for a wife, uh, that, uh, you know, that I could live at his apartment. [36:03] And it was a multimillion dollar apartment on Palm Beach Island. [36:06] And I, again, just taking all this in, I have zero interest in actually doing this stuff. [36:11] So I tell my mom that I'm going to meet with this guy just so she knows where I am and is aware. [36:16] And I, she, she was very creeped out. [36:19] She's like, Molly, why are you meeting with him? [36:20] And I was like, I'm just so interested in what this is. [36:24] And she was like, well, be safe. [36:25] I think it sounds gross, but I'm glad I know who you're with, where you're at and, and you know, what's going on. [36:31] So I meet with this guy, Billy Collins at Colony house, which is a supper club at the time. [36:37] Kennedy used to JFK used to have an apartment there as well. [36:41] So I go and I meet him there. [36:43] I have dinner at their supper club with him. [36:45] He has a straw hat, which he's known for having a straw hat. [36:49] I've seen pictures of him with a straw hat. [36:51] He's even wrote poems about straw hats. [36:53] So he has a straw hat on at the time. [36:55] Uh, I can't remember if he took it off and put it down on the table or not, or if he kept it on. [36:59] Um, but one of the things that creeped me out is his name was Billy. [37:03] My dad's name was Bill. [37:04] So I was just trying to reconcile if I could ever, ever, ever see myself even having an up and up relationship. [37:10] Like if everything were on the up and up, could I have a relationship with this person? [37:14] Even if they were wonderful people and everything was on the up and up. [37:17] And I was just, no, really could not see myself doing that. [37:22] So he was talking a lot of the time. [37:24] And then he was telling me that there's a supper club there with entertainment. [37:27] Cause I was telling him I was a singer and he was like, you could sing here at the cabaret. [37:30] And I, all of that sounded okay, but it also sounded very, very creepy as well. [37:35] So after dinner, he told me like, he really, really liked me. [37:38] He wanted to see me again. [37:39] I was not feeling it. [37:40] I left and I was like, Oh, you know, what is this? [37:44] So I went back to Orlando. [37:46] And at that point I met my fiance and I was, I was dating this guy. [37:52] Lisa was really freaked out that I was dating this guy because he was poor. [37:56] He didn't make much money. [37:57] He made like 60,000 a year. [37:58] That was poor to her. [37:59] And then we got engaged and she kept trying to pull me away from him. [38:03] She agreed to be one of my bridesmaids. [38:05] I mean, this is how deep she was in it. [38:07] And so she agreed to be one of my bridesmaids. [38:09] I remember her repeatedly saying, I can't believe you want to marry that guy. [38:13] He doesn't have any money. [38:14] And I was like, well, we can make our own money. [38:16] My grandfather made his own money. [38:18] Uh, I told Lisa repeatedly, I said, you need to stop chasing these millionaire billionaires. [38:23] I told her my stepmother, she sells property in Palm Beach. [38:26] You should look into real estate, which lo and behold, she was real estate now. [38:29] And, um, I said, you shouldn't chase these millionaire billionaires. [38:33] I said, they'll kill you, replace you with someone who kind of looks like you. [38:37] And it will be the funniest joke to them that they're getting away with it. [38:41] And she goes, Molly, she had a very interesting accent and cadence. [38:45] Uh, she said, Molly, you are so smart. [38:47] You are Einstein. [38:48] Like she kept saying how smart I was. [38:50] I was Einstein. [38:51] She told me there were video cameras all over her house, pinhole video cameras. [38:55] And I didn't believe her. [38:56] So I would flip them off and pick my nose and stuff. [38:58] And she would laugh hysterically. [39:00] And then she told me, what's that? [39:02] They had a stockpile of Cipro too, right? [39:04] Yeah. [39:05] All right. [39:07] So she would tell me what bathroom I could use that didn't have cameras in it. [39:10] And I just, again, thought she was a fanatist. [39:12] I had been bullied a lot through my whole life. [39:14] We moved a lot. [39:15] So kids would just make up shit and say weird things to me. [39:18] So I wasn't really sure what she was getting at. [39:21] Um, so she told me what bathroom to use, uh, that didn't have cameras. [39:25] She said both of her brothers were rapists. [39:27] I met her mother and her mother seemed like a very, very, very young Vietnamese woman who, I mean, she looked like she was in her thirties and had three kids almost in their twenties. [39:36] So it was very, very weird. [39:39] She didn't speak any English and she had a vicious Shiva Inu and her dad was like, I think he was in his sixties or seventies at the time. [39:46] And she said he was a French dignitary. [39:48] I've never been able to find him. [39:50] I don't know what a French dignitary is other than a made up title for these cronies. [39:55] Um, you know, same with like ambassadors, liaisons. [39:58] These are just like weird titles that they just give people and they fly under the radar. [40:03] So one night, one day I was down, I was getting a glass of water. [40:07] She had help staff. [40:08] She had cooks. [40:09] She had Butler. [40:10] She had all this stuff in her house. [40:11] And I remember I went downstairs one time. [40:13] I went in the kitchen to get a glass of water. [40:15] And she was like, just ask them to get you a glass of water. [40:17] I was not going to ask them. [40:18] So I opened up one of the cabinets and there was a cabinet full of Cipro. [40:22] And Cipro in 2001 was a new drug. [40:25] Um, not really sure what it was all used for at the time. [40:29] Anthrax, for the anthrax. [40:30] Well, it was, that's what she was saying. [40:32] So I opened up the cabinet and I see all the Cipro and I asked her, Oh my God, why do you guys have all of this Cipro? [40:37] Like the same drug, you have so much of it. [40:39] And she goes, Oh, that's because we're expecting biological attacks because my father, who he is and the 9-11, we're expecting anthrax attacks. [40:47] And, and that's supposed to be their supply to keep them safe. [40:51] And I was like, like, you guys are crazy. [40:54] You think the world is after you? [40:55] And yes, yes it is. [40:56] Um, so, uh, after that, I, I, like I said, I started dating this other guy and I really stopped talking to her about these Johns and stuff. [41:06] She agreed to be one of my bridesmaids. [41:08] So our, my bridal shower was two weeks before my wedding. [41:12] And I, I call her up to tell her, you know, you're expected to come. [41:16] One of my bridesmaids. [41:17] And she tells me she might not be able to come. [41:19] And I'm like, Lisa, the wedding's in two weeks. [41:21] I'm like, you agreed to be one of my bridal party to match my future husband's bridal party. [41:27] Like this is all planned. [41:28] We paid for it. [41:29] And so she goes, I might have to get government clearance to come up. [41:32] And I'm like, sure you do. [41:34] You know? [41:35] So she goes, I'll have to get government clearance if I, if I want to come up. [41:39] And I was like, okay, we'll go work on that. [41:40] And then she said, I might have to bring my, my handler. [41:43] And I'm like, okay, go work on that. [41:45] Like, I don't believe you have a handler. [41:47] She does. [41:48] She brought the handler to my party. [41:49] Uh, the, both of them showed up to my party. [41:52] Lisa tried giving me Balenciaga, a Balenciaga bag. [41:55] So this is one of the things she was baiting me with. [41:57] She had a $50,000 motorcycle Balenciaga bag. [42:00] I don't know if you guys remember it. [42:01] It had all the fringe and it was the Harley bag or something like that. [42:04] It was the, the thing of that time. [42:07] And she said, uh, I, she said, do you want one of these? [42:10] And I said, sure. [42:11] And she goes, you'll have to earn it. [42:13] And I was like, no, I don't earn anything. [42:15] I'll go buy it myself. [42:16] If you want to give it to me, that's one thing. [42:18] So that was the thing too. [42:19] I was not taking the bait. [42:21] So she shows up to the party with like a Sears makeup Balenciaga bag, [42:25] which was literally like $25 and gives it to me, uh, as a, a bridal, [42:30] or a bridal shower gift. [42:32] And I have a picture of her giving it to me with, with the bag. [42:35] And then we're starting to take pictures. [42:38] Cause I had disposable cameras everywhere for everyone to take pictures. [42:42] And Lisa was freaking out. [42:43] She was like, I don't want to be in pictures. [42:45] Uh, I can't have pictures taken to me. [42:47] You can see in some of them, she's kind of like covering her face and stuff. [42:50] And I go, Lisa, this is a bridal shower. [42:53] I said, do you understand? [42:54] I'm paying a professional photographer for the wedding. [42:57] Of course, you're going to have pictures taken of you. [42:59] What is your deal? [43:00] So I was able to get pictures of them and her handler at the event. [43:04] Um, they, like I said, they were freaking out. [43:07] The pictures were being taken. [43:08] And then she was a no show to my wedding. [43:10] She just disappeared after that completely disappeared and fell off the face of the planet. [43:15] I couldn't get in touch with her anymore. [43:16] And then several years later, we moved to Colorado and I was thinking about her. [43:20] I think this was like 2011, 2012. [43:23] I was thinking about her and I was like, whatever happened to Lisa? [43:26] So I found her online and this is when she was going by Ghislaine, Lisa Villeneuve, which [43:31] I didn't know in 2012, uh, 11, 12 who Ghislaine was. [43:35] I didn't know the name or anything. [43:36] I just saw that she had changed her first name, but she still was keeping Lisa Villeneuve. [43:40] It was clearly a picture of her. [43:41] I was seeing online and I called her to be like, oh, I see you, you know, stopped shopping [43:46] for millionaires, billionaires, and that you're, um, you know, selling properties like I suggested [43:51] you do. [43:52] So I call her up. [43:53] It was clearly her voice, absolutely without a doubt her voice. [43:56] And she gaslights me and says, I'm not who you are thinking I am. [44:01] Uh, that's not me. [44:02] Uh, and I was like, Lisa, come on. [44:04] Like I recognized your voice. [44:06] And then she basically hung up on me at that point and was like, I have the wrong number. [44:10] I have the wrong person. [44:11] And I thought it was just really, really weird. [44:13] So then once all of this started coming out in the media and I recognized Ghislaine Maxwell, [44:17] uh, and then I recognized Jeffrey Epstein's place. [44:20] I confronted her again. [44:21] I think you guys saw those exchanges in the evidence I sent, um, where I confronted her. [44:27] Um, she never responded. [44:29] I reported her to the FBI. [44:31] I had an FBI person, uh, uh, detective, uh, I think it was a Walter Harkins. [44:39] You guys saw an email exchange that I had, uh, with him. [44:42] I was trying to send him information. [44:44] Uh, he was interested in speaking to me because the Royal family had called reaching out to me [44:49] and they were trying to discredit Virginia Giuffre. [44:52] Cause that, I don't know if you guys can see, but that picture with her and Prince Andrew, it's fake. [44:57] It's incredibly fake. [44:59] There is an anomaly. [45:01] Well, yeah, I have some recordings that, that they have found like Victoria Herbie was able to find the original photographer. [45:08] I have voice recordings that she sent me that Ghislaine and Maxwell, Ghislaine and Epstein had drugged this, uh, artist. [45:16] And that he made the fake Compromat is what it is. [45:20] It's, it's Russian blackmail is, is what it's referred to as Compromat. [45:24] And, um, and then, but Lady Victoria Herbie is one of them. [45:28] She's, you know, part of their network. [45:30] So she was, she wasn't letting the information out. [45:33] She was defending Ghislaine, free Ghislaine and, uh, kind of skirting around the Epstein stuff. [45:38] And, um, so I have that confession for her. [45:41] Rena Oh also brought to my eyes that, that, that is not real. [45:45] And Rena Oh has a painting that she made where you can clearly see that that picture is from a picture from Naomi Campbell's yacht party. [45:53] She's got the exact same clothes on and she's actually holding a blue sweater, which is the, uh, arm of Prince Andrew around her. [46:00] So one of the biggest glaring things that you can see in the picture is her hair. [46:05] So you see how mine is parted on the side and more of my hair is on this side and less is on this side. [46:10] She has a massive amount of hair on this side that does not match her hair. [46:14] She has a very weird cloned teardrop shape that is mirrored impossible to have. [46:19] That is not real. [46:20] And then she has, there's this black anomaly literally floating in her hair and outside of her hair. [46:25] It's from nowhere. [46:26] So there's the other Ghislaine one that looks so bad. [46:30] Well, that's what I was just going to bring up too. [46:31] You guys have seen the in and out burger fake pictures too, that Ghislaine had, right? [46:37] That are just terribly Photoshopped. [46:39] If you look them up, they're so bad. [46:41] The bricks don't line up the chair, um, floating, floating. [46:45] I mean, it's so bad. [46:46] I have circled all of these anomalies. [46:48] There's a gap between her head and a car. [46:51] Um, I can send all these to you as well. [46:53] But if you could look them up right now, you can see her chair is floating. [46:57] There's not a hard edge. [46:58] Um, the, the bricks on the wall don't make sense. [47:01] And literally there's a garbage can whited out with white eraser. [47:06] Like it's, it's so bad. [47:08] So this is what they do. [47:09] They, they make fake compromise. [47:11] Um, you know, I, I, I believe Victoria, Virginia was a victim. [47:15] I believe that she was a victim in, in some of the stances. [47:19] I also believe that she lied, uh, about some things like, especially being 17 at the time. [47:24] And also, you know, I know this sounds horrible, but it is the law. [47:27] The law says, uh, in where she was with Prince Andrew, that she was of legal age of consent [47:34] and Epstein paid her 10,000 to $15,000. [47:37] All of this is documented. [47:38] I have been raped. [47:40] I never agreed to money beforehand. [47:42] I never was paid anything. [47:44] So I find all of this very concerning when there's other victims like me. [47:47] I, I've met so many other silent victims who were attacked also. [47:50] They're not talking about the druggings. [47:51] They're not talking about the contracts. [47:52] They're not talking about all these things. [47:54] And they've been telling me, Oh, this is, this is their plan is all their inside. [47:57] People are now moving money around. [47:59] The recruiters are taken over the, the ex employees, the ex girlfriends, [48:03] all these things have like, they're the mouthpieces. [48:05] They're the only ones allowed to talk and they've sanitized everything. [48:08] They're not talking about organ harvesting. [48:10] They're not talking about the baby making. [48:12] The Zorro ranch was a baby ranch. [48:14] They wanted undocumented babies for organ harvesting for adrenochrome. [48:18] I know this all sounds wild, but this is the extent of these people's lives. [48:22] They're disgusting. [48:23] And it's been going on since the dawn of time. [48:24] This is nothing new. [48:25] They're into sacrifice. [48:27] They're there. [48:28] They're, they believe their God. [48:31] If there even is a God, they, you know, it's, it's wild. [48:34] And this is, this is how they fly under the radar. [48:36] So, I mean, I got out a ton. [48:39] Thank you for listening. [48:41] I don't know, uh, really what else to hit on. [48:45] Um, I'm just grateful to be on this call. [48:50] Honestly, I've reached out to so many people. [48:53] I've reached out to Marjorie Taylor Greene. [48:55] Uh, I've reached out to Jasmine Crockett. [48:58] I haven't heard back from her yet. [48:59] I mean, uh, like I said, I had, I went to DC with rain in April of 2021. [49:05] I was trying to tell my story there. [49:07] And even rain was like, your stories a little too much, like don't speak it. [49:12] And I had a panic attack the minute I got to DC. [49:15] Like, I'm like this, I'm an enemy territory. [49:18] Like I don't feel safe. [49:21] I tried coming out through the Biden administration. [49:24] The problem is, is it's both sides. [49:26] It's both sides and Trump. [49:27] And Trump's trying to say it's all the Democrats and it's a hoax, which none of that makes sense. [49:32] And then now he's an informant, which people don't understand it. [49:35] Informant means you were doing, you were participating and that's how you become an informant. [49:41] So then, you know, Mike Johnson had to walk that back, but it's just wild. [49:45] Every night we go to sleep and every day we come back and like, nothing's happening. [49:49] Nothing's progressing. [49:50] I've watched your story unravel for 22 years. [49:52] Yeah. My husband's watched my story unravel for 22 years. [49:55] Heard the same story. [49:57] And I've been trauma therapy weekly. [49:59] I have a trial next week or possibly the week after we're waiting to see what the final trial dates are with that MTV producer guy. [50:06] Um, uh, times up legal defense fund is paying for that for me to be able to fight back. [50:12] Um, the original judge that allowed him to sue me was, uh, uh, what was his name? [50:19] Ashton Jeffrey Ashton. [50:20] He was accused of being a pedophile. [50:22] Uh, Ron Santis put out an executive order to investigate him for pedophilia. [50:27] All that was swept under the rug. [50:29] So, I mean, the system is very broken. [50:32] It's broken on purpose. [50:33] It does not want to help or protect people like me. [50:36] Uh, you know, I have no whistleblower protections. [50:38] I'm working with the girl. [50:40] I can't remember what her name was, but she's the one who wrote AB 933 for California, uh, that she was able to get, uh, whistleblower protections. [50:47] And that if someone like this were to try to sue you, like in my case, that they would have to prove with evidence that they have a valid case and they would have to pay upfront. [50:57] Um, if it's this type of situation or they're responsible for my, uh, my payments, which that's not because I have to come up with $20,000 to go pay my attorney that times up will reimburse me. [51:09] But this is, that's the problem. [51:11] That's still elitism. [51:13] The fact that I can even do any of this, I'm doing all of this so we can change laws. [51:18] My life, I feel like I'm a sacrificial lamb at this point. [51:20] I, I don't get to sing. [51:22] I didn't get to be an attorney. [51:23] I, I don't get to live my life the way I had intended it. [51:26] It has been completely hijacked. [51:28] So I am just adamant in trying to get laws changed, trying to protect the next generations. [51:33] This generation may not give a shit. [51:35] The generations before may not give a shit, but I give a shit. [51:38] I want to protect the next generations. [51:40] People did not protect me. [51:41] I was not protected. [51:42] I feel like I have a moral obligation to speak up, be heard, get laws changed. [51:48] Try to do some of the stuff. [51:49] I just feel like God really has made it so that I have evidence. [51:52] I've been able to put things together, whether you believe in God or whatever. [51:55] I feel like it's a karmic universe. [51:57] Like even the universe doesn't want to do this. [51:59] The universe does not want to be bombed every day. [52:01] Does not want people on it being trafficked and raped in the blood all over itself. [52:05] So I feel like there's like a universal karma that's also like enough. [52:09] So, oh my God, you guys are fabulous listeners. [52:13] Thank you. [52:14] Oh, you're incredible. [52:16] And I, you know, once again, thank you for sharing all of this and having the bravery to continue to share it. [52:22] Um, you are a shining example of taking, you know, what you've been through and trying to do a positive change in the world. [52:30] So just thank you so much. [52:31] And I'm so glad we got to have this. [52:33] Um, I did want to ask, you mentioned that Gley Maxwell had tried to recruit you initially when you were like 14, 15. [52:41] Yeah. [52:42] Can you just get a little more into detail about sure? [52:45] Sure. [52:46] Yeah. [52:47] That happened in this circumstance. [52:48] Yeah. [52:49] That's a good one because she, she said some very weird things at that as well. [52:51] So when I was about 14, 15 years old, I lived in Jupiter, Florida. [52:55] Uh, I believe I was start. [52:56] I think, I think I was a freshman. [52:57] That's my hometown. [52:58] Oh my gosh. [52:59] Yeah. [53:00] I lived in Jupiter, Florida and to Cuesta most of the time. [53:03] So, um, so I went to Jupiter high school and in, in the nineties at Jupiter high school, they didn't have a gym for all the kids to use. [53:11] It was just a, a really shitty gym. [53:14] That was just for, because it was the older school. [53:17] There's a new one. [53:18] It was the old campus. [53:19] Right. [53:20] They built the new one. [53:21] Right. [53:22] The new one is just gorgeous. [53:23] My parents were working back then at Jupiter. [53:24] Amazing. [53:25] So you know what my school looked like. [53:26] It was like one story. [53:27] I think one building was two stories. [53:29] It was very, [53:30] Oh, it was awful. [53:31] It was just awful. [53:32] So, and they didn't have facilities. [53:33] They didn't have a gym or anything like that. [53:35] So all the kids would go to the Jupiter gym next to the Jupiter movie theater, which was where bells is. [53:41] And I think Taco Bell is across the street. [53:45] So this is like where we would hang out either that or the beach, we would hang out or go to house parties. [53:50] So, um, in my freshman year in high school, uh, there, like I said, there was no gym allowed for the, every other kid other than the wrestlers and football players. [54:01] So all the other, all the kids would go to the Jupiter gym, which I said, again, is, was next to the, the Jupiter cineplex, the Jupiter movie theater. [54:09] And, um, I had only ever babysat as a job at that point. [54:16] And I heard that they were, that they were hiring at the gym there for the daycare for the children for when like parents work. [54:25] So I thought that was a great job for me. [54:27] And it was a, it was an entry level, like really easy. [54:30] You could only work, I think four or eight hours a week. [54:33] That was it. [54:34] And, uh, I was just going to be working on the weekends in the morning and you got a free gym membership. [54:39] And even if you just worked those tiny little hours, you got a free gym membership, which my parents were not going to pay for one. [54:44] It was not cheap. [54:45] Um, so I got a free gym membership. [54:47] So I started hanging out there all the time. [54:48] My brother had a car at the time, so he would drive me or my parents would drive me in the morning to go, uh, work in the daycare. [54:54] So, um, one time, one morning I was there and I'd worked in the daycare and then there was like really no one in the gym. [55:01] I used to have to go in pretty early, um, on the weekends to go. [55:05] And then it was, it was kind of dead as, as like, it was just mostly adults there dropping off their kids and then, you know, going on their day. [55:12] It wasn't mostly kids at that hour. [55:14] So the gym was pretty empty. [55:16] I had finished my shift. [55:17] I had on a staff shirt that I worked there and I had taken it off and I usually dressed incredibly modest. [55:24] Um, but my mom was, you know, saying, you know, you should, you should take off more of your clothes and kind of see what body parts you're working at the gym so that you can see results. [55:34] And you can see what you're exercising and using. [55:36] So, so I decided to do that. [55:38] I had a sports bra on and I had, um, uh, like, you know, uh, the short shorts, the, the, the spandex shorts, and I took the shirt off and I was up by the glass windows of the gym. [55:49] So when you come to the gym, there's like a circular area that they would check you in. [55:53] And then the daycare was off to the left when you came in and to the right, there was all this cardio stuff up by the main windows. [56:01] And then there was gym equipment in the back and then more cardio all the way in the back. [56:05] So I wanted to be up by the window because no one was really there. [56:09] And I, like I said, I don't like being in places where there's no people in a back area. [56:13] So I went up to this area and I was working out there. [56:16] I can't remember what machine I was on because it had to be low impact. [56:20] All my doctors were like, you gotta be low impact with, with your EDS, with your dislocations and all this stuff. [56:25] So I was on this machine. [56:27] I took my shirt off. [56:28] And as I was, I think I was reading a book or something. [56:32] I'm not quite sure what I was doing on the machine. [56:34] And I saw out of my peripheral vision. [56:37] Cause I'm always looking at my peripheral vision as a trauma survivor. [56:40] I'm always scanning my environment. [56:42] I very rarely am looking with my eyes. [56:44] I'm looking with peripheral all the time. [56:46] So I see these two women walk up and they're clearly talking to each other. [56:50] And they both walk up and they're walking by me. [56:53] And then Ghislaine comes, looks in the window and stares right at me. [56:58] She cups her hands around her face and she stares right at me. [57:00] And as she does that, the other woman who I believe was Ava Dubin. [57:04] It looked like her. [57:05] I have pictures of her. [57:06] She was dressed like her. [57:08] She, she, her mannerisms were like her as well. [57:10] And the two of them then split at that point. [57:12] Ava looked at her looking at me and then basically walked off at that point, [57:17] which was very weird to me. [57:18] Cause I saw them clearly conversing and talking like they were friends. [57:21] So then I'm used to, I was used to being scouted as a kid. [57:25] Uh, I had very blonde hair as a kid, naturally very blonde hair as a kid. [57:30] I used to get targeted all the time for modeling. [57:32] My dad did not want me to do the modeling. [57:34] I was not interested in the modeling stuff. [57:36] So I was used to people, um, coming to me with offers. [57:42] Of these things. [57:43] So she comes in and she talks to the desk and I can see her basically saying, [57:47] I'm not interested in the gym membership. [57:48] I just want to talk to this girl. [57:49] She points over to me and they let her in and she walks over to me and she says, [57:54] Hey, um, I'm trying to remember how she introduced herself. [57:57] I think she gave me a business card and she said her name. [58:00] She said, I'm Ghislaine Maxwell and I'm a model scout. [58:04] And, uh, I remember looking at the card and being like, Oh my God, I'm never going to be [58:08] able to pronounce that name. [58:09] I hope she doesn't ask me to. [58:10] Cause this is one of the things I was thinking of being polite and, you know, trying to be [58:15] professional even as a child. [58:17] So she goes on to tell me, she says, she says, have you ever modeled before? [58:22] And I said, yeah, I have it. [58:23] She goes, Oh, I can tell you have the look. [58:25] And then she asked how old I was. [58:27] And I said, 14 or 15. [58:28] And this is when she said, Oh my gosh, you could so easily pass for 18. [58:33] What does that have to do with modeling? [58:35] Like I said, I had three legitimate agents after this and I was never told I needed to [58:41] look 18 for something. [58:42] You never have to pass for 18 to be in modeling. [58:45] So that was red flag. [58:46] Number one. [58:47] When she said that I didn't know why she even mentioned that. [58:49] And then she offered me and she said, well, what are you looking to do? [58:53] And I, you know, I wasn't sure. [58:54] I was very young at the time. [58:56] So she said, well, are you interested in modeling for Victoria's secret? [58:59] And no, no, I was not. [59:01] I thought that was like the next step to playboy not interested. [59:05] And I was very developed. [59:07] I have a very large chest and it developed starting in fourth grade. [59:10] So she tells me that she can get me into Victoria's secret. [59:14] And that, uh, she paints the picture up. [59:17] She says it will be Victoria's secrets, international flights, international. [59:21] What did she say? [59:23] International travel. [59:24] She's traveling internationally and massages. [59:27] And I'm thinking this whole time, Oh my God. [59:31] Wow. [59:32] So I'm going to be flying internationally. [59:33] They're going to be massaging me before I do runway. [59:36] Like, wow, that's so, that sounds amazing, but I was not interested. [59:40] So it was going in one ear and out the other. [59:42] And I was just kind of shining her on, told her I'd call her. [59:44] I never even told my parents. [59:45] She approached me because I didn't want my mom to even pursue it. [59:48] I was not interested. [59:49] I remember my mom at one point asking if I would ever do playboy. [59:52] And I was like, fuck no. [59:53] And she's like, okay, good. [59:54] You know, cause some people get their career that way. [59:56] So my mom was born in the Midwest. [59:58] My dad from Hollywood and they clashed all the time. [1:00:01] My mom had rose colored glasses on. [1:00:03] My dad was always talking about human trafficking and the industry. [1:00:06] And my dad, my mom just, they fought all the time. [1:00:08] My dad is now deceased, but he was my biggest protector and he knew what was going on and [1:00:13] kept me very safe. [1:00:14] Whereas my mom was my mom manager. [1:00:16] She signed me up for everything. [1:00:17] She told me she lived vicariously through me that I had got all these opportunities. [1:00:21] She was so impressed with them all and that she never got opportunities like this and [1:00:25] was basically living vicariously through me, which gave her a blind spot in protecting [1:00:29] me a lot of the time. [1:00:31] So, um, she left the gym. [1:00:34] I had her card. [1:00:35] I never called her. [1:00:36] I had her card in my modeling portfolio for the longest time. [1:00:39] And then when I went to Florida state, my ex-boyfriend stole one of my modeling portfolios [1:00:43] and threw it in the dumpster after we broke up so that the card was in there. [1:00:48] But I was able to meet someone who's also part of the network. [1:00:52] Um, she was trafficking drugs for Epstein, uh, at the same time. [1:00:58] And I'm not gonna say her name. [1:00:59] I'm not gonna say her name. [1:01:00] I will at some point once I talk to her, uh, because she's very scared. [1:01:04] Her, her grandfather, just to put into perspective was, uh, one of our presidents is, um, what [1:01:10] was it? [1:01:11] Like right hand man, spiritual advisor, like right hand man, something. [1:01:16] I, I, I know the name. [1:01:17] I can look it up. [1:01:18] I know the last name, but it was in Reagan's cabinet. [1:01:21] Yeah. [1:01:22] Yeah. [1:01:23] Yeah. [1:01:24] It was part of Reagan's cabinet. [1:01:25] And, uh, he was one of his advisors, one of his top advisors. [1:01:29] So she was born into it. [1:01:30] Also. [1:01:31] She said she used to traffic drugs. [1:01:32] She didn't know what was going on. [1:01:33] She just thought she was just trafficking stuff. [1:01:36] Also. [1:01:37] She was a bodyguard for Paris Hilton does not have the looks, but they put her to good [1:01:41] use. [1:01:42] Oh yeah. [1:01:43] No, she's not a looker. [1:01:44] She was a woman that would yell. [1:01:45] So she was like basically Paris Hilton's bodyguard, which we ran into Paris Hilton on the way [1:01:49] to the party, that Epstein party. [1:01:51] She was on Clamata street. [1:01:53] She was on, uh, she walked by with an entourage. [1:01:58] And I remember saying to Lisa, Oh my God, is she going to the party? [1:02:01] And Lisa said, no, she doesn't go anymore, but her brother still does. [1:02:05] So we'll probably see him there. [1:02:07] And then I believe that that girl that I know who'd ran drugs and whose grandfather [1:02:12] was an advisor for, for, um, Reagan, she claims that she was likely there that night [1:02:18] that she was likely the bodyguard. [1:02:19] Cause she was, there was a woman in the front, a big girl who was saying, get out of the way. [1:02:23] Paris Hilton's walking through. [1:02:25] And I remember going, I'm not getting out of the way. [1:02:27] First of all, I'm handicapped. [1:02:28] I don't move fast. [1:02:29] That's her. [1:02:30] And it's absolutely her. [1:02:31] So, so she's also seeing Elaine Maxwell, handing out cards at the mall, trying to recruit [1:02:37] people. [1:02:38] And she would intervene saying, don't reach out to her. [1:02:41] But like, she knew something weird was going on in that respect. [1:02:44] So she and I have been talking. [1:02:45] I've been in trauma therapy weekly now for about four or five years. [1:02:50] At this point I've tried to be in therapy before I get stuff like, well, you seem to be handling [1:02:55] it. [1:02:56] Okay. [1:02:57] And I'm not, I mean, it's just very experienced people. [1:02:59] This is like the first time I've ever had someone who's actually listening and, and, [1:03:03] and understanding, and I'm actually getting somewhere. [1:03:06] She's going to be part of the trial. [1:03:08] And also that girl is now seeing her that the Reagan connection girl. [1:03:14] She's now going to be seeing my same therapist. [1:03:16] She was very glad that I found someone who could actually help with these things and not [1:03:21] gaslight or not Baker act whenever you speak up about these things. [1:03:26] So she actually has her first appointment today right now with my therapist. [1:03:30] So I'm very, very happy about that. [1:03:32] So I think that's about it for the information that I know. [1:03:37] I mean, there's obviously more of the Royal family reached out to me. [1:03:41] Yeah. [1:03:43] I was gang stalked and harassed, uh, you know, by Virginia and Maria and then fixers, um, [1:03:49] that, you know, are trying to intimidate. [1:03:51] I'm not easily intimidated. [1:03:53] Um, I've fought back verbally my whole life. [1:03:56] Like I said, I was on the debate team and, uh, I loved arguing and I love discussion. [1:04:02] I love discourse. [1:04:03] I love getting to the truth of things. [1:04:05] And if people call that arguing, then okay, then you're arguing. [1:04:08] I see it as let's both put our truths out and get somewhere and see where the overlaps [1:04:13] are. [1:04:14] So I think that's about it. [1:04:15] Other than the Royal family reached out. [1:04:17] It was Antonia Marshall. [1:04:19] She reached out first, which is Fergie's assistant. [1:04:23] She reached out first. [1:04:24] They asked, I have all screenshots for this as well. [1:04:26] Uh, they asked if, um, Prince Andrew's spin doctor, Mark Gallagher with page field could [1:04:32] speak to me. [1:04:33] And I didn't trust any of it. [1:04:34] I knew he was a spin doctor. [1:04:35] I knew they were just trying to, cause Prince Andrew's still a problem. [1:04:39] He's still a massive problem. [1:04:41] I just think he's low hanging fruit for the network to be the scapegoat. [1:04:45] They're always need a scapegoat. [1:04:46] So, uh, I called the FBI. [1:04:50] They were very interested. [1:04:51] This is the, they were more interested in the Prince Andrew stuff than anything else. [1:04:54] I went to the FBI with all the information. [1:04:56] They came up to me. [1:04:57] I told Mark Gallagher in a text. [1:04:59] I said, I only want to talk to you. [1:05:00] If you understand that this is bigger than Prince Andrew, this is bigger than Virginia. [1:05:05] This is bigger than this little stuff, the, you know, this, this 17 year old being paid [1:05:09] to have sex with the Prince and then claiming rape. [1:05:12] Like I'm only going to talk to you if we're actually going to be real about this. [1:05:16] And I could just tell he was a spin doctor. [1:05:17] So I went to the papers and, uh, he ended up getting fired. [1:05:20] The queen got really mad at him. [1:05:22] Yeah. [1:05:23] Yeah. [1:05:24] So I got him to step down. [1:05:25] So my newspaper accomplishes, I'm very proud of. [1:05:28] I want that on my tombstone that I took out Andrew's spin doctor. [1:05:34] So I think that's it. [1:05:38] And then I lost that detective to January 6th. [1:05:40] And I've never heard, I never heard from him again. [1:05:42] After I sent him a ton of information, files, screenshots from other victims. [1:05:47] So that's where I am now. [1:05:51] I think we're definitely interested in any other like documents or evidence that you can send over. [1:05:58] Absolutely. [1:05:59] Definitely. [1:06:00] Cause it can contribute to like everything that it's, I mean, this is when I say the committee [1:06:04] and all the offices involved are a hundred percent taking this seriously. [1:06:07] Good. [1:06:08] And are treating it as the sex trafficking investigation that it should be. [1:06:12] Yeah. [1:06:13] Um, and you know, looking for other avenues of like where to go next and stuff like that. [1:06:19] So anything that you can provide would be exceptionally helpful. [1:06:22] Okay. [1:06:23] And I have it all organized. [1:06:24] So I'll start putting it together in documents and sending them over to you guys. [1:06:27] Uh, I have it all organized literally thousands, thousands of images. [1:06:32] But again, I have them all organized by subjects because I've been doing this for so long. [1:06:36] And I'm always like Molly organize them or you're going to be really pissed in the future. [1:06:40] So I've been trying to organize them as I got them. [1:06:42] Um, Oh, one of the things I was going to say, and I know you probably, I don't know. [1:06:49] I don't know. [1:06:50] I'm not going to make any judgments. [1:06:51] The thing is, is I'm glad you guys are taking this seriously because they're trying to enslave [1:06:55] us all. [1:06:56] And I know that sounds scary, but it's a global, global trafficking, uh, harvesting wars. [1:07:01] Charlie Kirk yesterday. [1:07:02] I absolutely believe that was Trump and Mossad. [1:07:05] I don't know if you guys do, but I am convinced, but I'm just saying my husband's like, I'm just [1:07:13] saying it's a global operation for blackmail and control. [1:07:18] And they don't, they'll, they'll kill you. [1:07:21] It's, it's, they want to get away with it all, you know? [1:07:28] And this is the Victor writes the history and they write it wrong. [1:07:32] And then we, I mean, I don't know if you guys knew Robert Maxwell used to own Macmillan [1:07:37] Publishing. [1:07:38] Those were our school textbooks. [1:07:39] So they were mind controlling us. [1:07:44] And even that respect of our high school textbooks, our middle school textbooks are owned by Mossad [1:07:51] operative blackmail trafficker. [1:07:54] He's talking to the cat. [1:07:56] I thought he was yelling at me again, like, but I just wanted to share all of that. [1:08:02] I know it sounds crazy. [1:08:03] Um, but okay, God, I'm glad you all are shaking your heads that it doesn't sound crazy. [1:08:08] Uh, you know, we, we got to get to the bottom of this and we, we, we, I think we're in a [1:08:14] really good position because I feel like even MAGA is crumbling harshly, um, that they're [1:08:20] finally seeing it and breaking apart. [1:08:22] And I have a ton of hope. [1:08:24] I was forced raised Catholic. [1:08:25] I had to read the book of revelation very young. [1:08:28] So I was always like, yay, the meek inherit. [1:08:32] We take them down. [1:08:33] We bind the beast. [1:08:34] We get a thousand years of peace. [1:08:35] These were all wonderful things. [1:08:36] And I try to bring that hope to other people too, that it is prophesized whether you believe [1:08:40] in God or not. [1:08:41] It is prophesized that we win. [1:08:42] That is hope that the meek inherit. [1:08:45] And that I taught one of my hashtags is the meek speak. [1:08:48] And I encourage the meek to speak, please keep speaking. [1:08:51] And cause we're the rightful owners of the planet. [1:08:55] And I, like I said, I feel like we're karmically protected. [1:08:58] I feel like I'm karmically protected. [1:09:00] I still have video cameras all over my house, learned how to shoot a gun, have bear mace, [1:09:04] all the things that I need. [1:09:05] But, um, I just really appreciate you guys taking the time to listen. [1:09:10] Cause I mean, I've just, my whole family thinks I'm crazy, even though they've witnessed [1:09:14] so many things. [1:09:15] I tried to meet with my brother a couple of weeks ago and he called me to my house. [1:09:18] And he called me to my face, a pathological liar. [1:09:20] And I was like, what's your proof? [1:09:22] I have so much proof. [1:09:23] I'm not. [1:09:24] He's damaged. [1:09:25] Oh, my brother's very damaged. [1:09:26] Yeah. [1:09:27] He used to be a sniper in the military. [1:09:28] So for the government, he was in black water. [1:09:33] So it's just been hard. [1:09:35] I keep to myself. [1:09:36] I talked to other victims and survivors. [1:09:38] I take a lot of information and I try to network with other people. [1:09:41] I take screenshots. [1:09:42] I organize it all to try to comprehend and make sense of everything. [1:09:45] I'm so glad that my husband believes me. [1:09:47] My son believes me and they're very protective of me. [1:09:49] Um, yeah, it's been very scary and I definitely will go off the handle if I feel like people [1:09:54] are not listening to me. [1:09:55] We've watched it all. [1:09:56] Honestly, if I didn't watch it off, I would second guess you. [1:09:59] Right now. [1:10:00] We've seen it happen. [1:10:01] We've seen everything. [1:10:02] I don't know if you can hear them. [1:10:04] Yeah. [1:10:05] Okay. [1:10:06] They can. [1:10:07] Good. [1:10:08] We've seen it happen with a beautiful witness. [1:10:09] Um, and, uh, yeah, I, I, I'm so happy to share the evidence with you guys. [1:10:16] I'll try to think of the best way to do it. [1:10:18] Maybe I will invite you to a shared folder that they're already in. [1:10:22] If you guys want to give me your emails, that way you can get on it right away. [1:10:25] And like I said, they're all categorized as well. [1:10:28] So, um, is there any way that, um, and thank you for that by the way, but, um, do you use [1:10:36] Dropbox by any chance? [1:10:37] Yeah, we have Dropbox and I use Google drive and you can share pictures within folders on [1:10:42] your iPhone and stuff. [1:10:43] Yeah. [1:10:44] I think Dropbox would probably be best. [1:10:46] Um, especially with Google for federal devices. [1:10:49] Technically it's not like secure. [1:10:51] Yeah. [1:10:52] Okay. [1:10:53] Yeah. [1:10:54] If you guys want to send me a Dropbox links, otherwise we do have Dropbox. [1:10:57] We pay an enormous amount of money a month for it and we don't use it. [1:11:00] So perfect. [1:11:01] Perfect timing. [1:11:02] We'll finally use it. [1:11:03] And we have a decent. [1:11:04] I'll silence you. [1:11:05] Ah, my husband's going to go cancel it and silence me. [1:11:08] So yeah, we do have Dropbox and it has a good amount of space on it. [1:11:12] Even if I put them on there and take them off after you guys download them, we can do that [1:11:16] too. [1:11:17] Cause like I said, it's, it's a ton. [1:11:18] It's, it's, it's, it's a ton. [1:11:19] So yeah, I will start uploading those. [1:11:21] And if you guys can give me your emails and I will put you on all of that apps, apps [1:11:26] accordingly. [1:11:28] Yeah. [1:11:29] I can connect everyone, um, on an email thread, um, and get all of that moved in. [1:11:33] Um, and you know, feel free to be reaching out to me or if there are others that want to [1:11:38] be connected, um, can we talk to any of us in my office? [1:11:41] I'll find out a lot of them are very scared. [1:11:44] Well, the problem is a lot of them are, they're isolated. [1:11:47] They don't have any kind of husband or family. [1:11:50] They're ostracized. [1:11:51] They're alone. [1:11:52] They're terrified. [1:11:53] So they're, they're constantly in their psycho psychosis and they're very, very scared to [1:11:58] trust anything, you know, Democrats too, because it is both sides. [1:12:03] So people are super scared, but they're very inspired by my bravery. [1:12:08] They seem to like, if I'm the liaison, they're like, we trust you. [1:12:13] And therefore we trust what you trust. [1:12:15] And, uh, so I will definitely put out a call to my survivor friends and say, Hey, I, you [1:12:20] know, found a path. [1:12:21] If you guys want to start walking down it and giving information and stuff. [1:12:25] Yeah. [1:12:26] And we can always have meetings where like the cameras are off or like whatever they [1:12:31] need to protect. [1:12:32] Okay. [1:12:33] I'll let them know confidentiality or whatever makes them feel. [1:12:35] Cause I would love for you guys to talk to the Canadian survivor. [1:12:38] I would love for you to talk to the Canadian survivor. [1:12:40] She was targeted as a child. [1:12:42] She was drugged constantly. [1:12:43] And they bragged about her constantly. [1:12:46] They bragged to her while she was in and out of consciousness constantly. [1:12:50] She knew that Trump was supposed to be president, but that was all orchestrated. [1:12:54] Um, you know, I know it all sounds like weird conspiracy, but again, this is a satanic network [1:12:59] that actually does rituals and stuff and, and uses satanic programming and satanic theories. [1:13:04] Trump was born on a satanic blood move. [1:13:08] So that's another reason that they want him. [1:13:12] And then Elaine Maxwell was born on Christmas day, which is another satanic holiday because [1:13:16] you know, according to the Bible, Jesus was not born on December 25th. [1:13:19] He was likely born today, nine 11. [1:13:21] So according to the Bible, he was born in September, mid September, early mid September. [1:13:28] So, um, so there's a lot of that conspiracy going around and that's the hard part is there's, [1:13:33] you know, it's a, it's really hard to just want to see that through or prove it or unprove [1:13:39] it or whatever. [1:13:40] And, and this is exactly how they get away with it again is no one's going to, no one's going [1:13:44] to say we're Satanists. [1:13:45] No one's gonna, you know, they go on TV shows or Oprah or whatever these shows were before [1:13:51] and they talk about them, but they don't do anything. [1:13:54] So they platform them. [1:13:55] So it's, we've seen it. [1:13:57] We've, we've talked to victims. [1:13:58] We know victims have said that they've been born into families, much like my recruiter, [1:14:02] I believe was born into it. [1:14:05] And I was not. [1:14:06] Thank God. [1:14:07] He's not born into it. [1:14:09] And I don't have an NDA. [1:14:10] Okay. [1:14:11] I mean, this is another reason they won't, they won't speak to me. [1:14:13] They don't want to talk to me. [1:14:14] Uh, Nancy Grace interviewed me in 2021, never aired it. [1:14:17] I told her all of this. [1:14:19] I named John's. [1:14:20] Yeah. [1:14:21] Yeah. [1:14:22] Well, I mentioned Trump and she's a Trumper Fox news. [1:14:24] So, but yeah, she, she's set up. [1:14:27] She, they hounded me for an interview. [1:14:29] Uh, the producers wouldn't stop hounding me. [1:14:31] They picked me up in a town car. [1:14:32] I had my son go with me. [1:14:34] They did hair and makeup. [1:14:35] Yeah. [1:14:36] I have the emails for all of us too. [1:14:37] They did hair and makeup. [1:14:38] I went to a satellite studio in Orlando and, uh, did the interview with Nancy Grace and [1:14:43] yeah, she never aired it. [1:14:44] I named my, uh, the John's that they tried to sell me to. [1:14:49] I talked about the contracts. [1:14:50] I said that Virginia and Maria were attacking me and that it was very strange. [1:14:53] Um, and I talked about the recruitments and my, my, uh, my, uh, recruiter and all of that. [1:14:59] Obviously Trump was involved. [1:15:00] Never aired it in there. [1:15:01] Right. [1:15:02] Then you were attacked again. [1:15:03] Oh yeah. [1:15:04] And then, yeah. [1:15:05] Then of course I'm attacked again over and over and over for even trying to peek my head [1:15:09] out. [1:15:10] I got rid of my Twitter account. [1:15:11] It was just so insane and scary there. [1:15:14] Now I just do it for news reporting. [1:15:15] I'm like, I feel like Twitter gets breaking news and then it trickles over to Instagram, [1:15:20] the truth of the matter of truth to Instagram. [1:15:22] And then I don't think Facebook gets anything. [1:15:24] I think that's just boomer heaven over there and they're just not getting anything. [1:15:28] The only reason I keep my Twitter is for breaking news. [1:15:31] Exactly. [1:15:32] Same. [1:15:33] Same. [1:15:34] Same. [1:15:35] It is a fifth dimension of hell, but it is breaking news. [1:15:38] Unfortunately. [1:15:39] All right. [1:15:40] Well, thank you again. [1:15:41] This has been, you know, powerful and upsetting, but necessary. [1:15:48] Yeah. [1:15:49] And, you know, just really want to thank you for sharing your truth. [1:15:52] Thank you. [1:15:53] And thank you for responding. [1:15:54] Of course. [1:15:55] Oh my gosh. [1:15:56] You're the first one. [1:15:57] Thank them for me. [1:15:58] And, you know, always good to hear from you. [1:16:00] Oh, my husband says thank you also. [1:16:01] My husband's very grateful. [1:16:03] He says thank you. [1:16:04] So much. [1:16:05] I really just really appreciate you. [1:16:08] Awesome. [1:16:09] Well, send me your emails. [1:16:11] I might already have them, but just send me a follow up one. [1:16:14] If you guys have a Dropbox account you want me to put it into. [1:16:17] Otherwise, I'll just start putting it in mine and CC you guys on those boxes. [1:16:21] And I'll start getting those uploaded. [1:16:23] Yay. [1:16:24] We'll be in touch. [1:16:28] Great to meet you under terrible circumstances. [1:16:31] Right. [1:16:32] But God bless you guys. [1:16:33] Stay safe. [1:16:34] All right. [1:16:37] We'll talk soon. [1:16:38] Bye guys. [1:16:44] Jeepers.