MATIBAG, GINISA NG SENATOR JUDGES!

[0:00] How can the NBI be sure there was really a contract if they can't even identify the assed assassin? [0:07] Kayo ngayon, sinasabi ninyo na wala naman nung panahon na yon. [0:11] Ganon din ang sinabi ni Attorney Lotto. [0:15] So, hindi ko maintindihan ngayon. [0:17] Talaga bang may assassin na na-identify nung Pebrero o wala? [0:23] Wala pong na-identify nung Pebrero. [0:25] Bakit ninyo sinabi doon sa House of Representatives na yung dahilan na nagpila ng kaso kasi meron na kayong assassin? [0:34] Hindi ko na itatanong today since I think in the next few weeks madalas naman kami magkikita ni Director Matibag [0:40] dahil marami siyang iniimbestigahan na kasama ako doon. [0:44] So, I'll be seeing you, Mr. Director. [0:46] Thank you, Mr. Presiding Officer. [0:48] Thank you. [0:48] Mr. Judge P. Aquitano is recognized for her interjection. [0:52] You may proceed, ma'am, when you're ready. You have two minutes. [0:56] I believe this is the continuation of the ladies' interjection yesterday. [1:03] Thereafter, Senator Judge Alan Cayetano. [1:06] We are ready, Mr. Presiding Officer, for the witness. [1:33] Sir, nung May 13, you were recorded as saying, [1:37] Katunayan, nakiusap nga po ako kay John Konsulta, napuntahan kami dito sa Sequoia Hotel [1:43] dahil meron po kaming planning mula po sa kanila, mula po pa kaninang umaga [1:48] and you went on to say, nandun ka with all the Deputy Directors, etc. [1:51] Do you confirm? [1:53] Well, kausap ko po si John Konsulta. [1:55] No, just confirm, sir. Did you say that na nandun kayo sa Sequoia? [1:59] Hindi yun lang. [1:59] The statement there. [2:00] Mahaba po kasi yung statement no. [2:01] I just need you to confirm, did you say that you were in Sequoia? [2:05] Yes, I talked to John Konsulta. [2:06] Thank you. So you are confirming? [2:07] Yes po. [2:08] And then later on, dinagdag nyo, wala kami sa Senado, we are on stand down because that's the instructions. [2:14] Did you also say that? [2:15] Yes po. [2:15] Thank you. [2:20] Meanwhile, in another interview, you then said, [2:23] Mayroon request si GM Veloso to help them secure the area [2:27] kasi napapansin nila na magulol, labaspasok. [2:30] Nagpadala kaming ilan lang na ahente, parang four to six na tao, [2:35] na nag-iikot sa premises ng GIS. [2:37] Yes, hindi pumasok sa Senado. [2:39] I am quoting, inquirer dated 13 May 2026. [2:43] Did you say this? [2:45] Yes, sa GSIS po. [2:46] Okay, thank you. [2:47] So, I asked now for the kind indulgence. [2:51] May papa-flash lang ako. [2:52] It's just a photo, dear colleagues, both parties. [2:55] Pakiflash lang. [2:57] So sabi nyo nasa GSIS. [2:59] You confirm na nasa GSIS yung ahente mo. [3:34] Pwede magpa-update sa technical what's going on. [3:37] It's just a photo. [3:37] So, ito. [3:44] I'm just showing the Senate website for the record. [3:47] Senate website. [3:48] Tapos po, nandito po sa right corner. [3:52] Can you read it, sir? [3:53] It says contact information. [3:54] Can you read it? [3:55] Hindi ko po mga pabasa. [3:56] Okay, paabot ko sa page. [3:58] Yung same thing. [3:59] It is just the Senate website. [4:02] Page, pakiabot. [4:03] Thank you. [4:05] Pakibasa lang po yung address ng Senado. [4:07] Contact information, GSIS building, JW Jocno building, Pasay City, 1300 Metro Manila, 632-8552. [4:26] Okay na po yung phone number, no need. [4:29] So, pakiulit, ano hong building? [4:31] GSIS building. [4:32] Opo, kasi nag-iisa lang naman ho ang address namin. [4:35] Muupap po kami dito sa GSIS. [4:37] Iisang building lang ho po yun. [4:39] And for the record, kung saan nakita yung tao mo, likod lang po yun ng office ni Senator Loren Legarda. [4:45] Nasa video po yun. [4:46] I will not bother everyone with that. [4:48] Kung gusto nyo, presiding officer, I can, but for now, I won't. [4:52] Kasama po yun sa area na inuupahan ng Senado sa GSIS. [4:56] We are paying rent for the information of all. [5:00] So, yan po ang gusto ko lang ma-establish. [5:03] It seems kasi po na you swore an oath, no, to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. [5:12] Is that correct? [5:13] Yes po. [5:14] Thank you very much. [5:15] So, sa kaalaman po ng ating mga nanunood at masigasing na tagasubaybay ng mga kababayan natin, [5:22] Rule 133 on the weight and sufficiency of evidence. [5:26] Sabi sa Section 1, preponderance of evidence, in determining where the preponderance or superior weight of evidence on the issues involved lies, [5:34] the court may consider all the facts and circumstances of the case, the witness's manner of testifying, their intelligence, and also their personal credibility. [5:46] Furthermore, in Section 11 of Rule 132, a witness may be impeached by evidence that his or her general reputation for truth, honesty, or integrity is bad. [6:00] So, nag-ring na yung bell, I will be loyal, I will follow this na lang, pero may record pa sana akong papakita, if the body wants, I will show the video. [6:10] Na sinabi din po ni NBI Director in an interview, wala pong nasaktan, wala pong nangbugbog, but we have a video. [6:16] Alam po ng lahat ng mga kasamahan natin na yung osaa, yung aming pong personnel, e binugbog. [6:21] May video po tayo niyan. [6:22] I leave it to the body, I leave it to the presiding officer if we want to take up the time of this court to show that. [6:27] Yun lang po, maraming salamat. [6:29] Thank you, Senator Judge Pia Cayetano. [6:31] Senator Judge Allen Cayetano is recognized for his interjections and interventions. [6:37] And if there are no other Senator Judge that will do so, the presiding officer shall make his interjections. [6:44] Senator Judge Allen Cayetano may proceed. [6:47] Before the questions, just two manifestations. [6:49] The gentleman may proceed with his manifestation. [6:51] First of all, to the NBI Director, he looked at me when I smiled a while ago. [6:56] I wasn't laughing at you or anyone. [6:59] Nung sinabi mo lang 6-7 kasi, or 7-6, mga pamangking ko, basta sinabi yung 6-7, nagtatawanan na. [7:06] I hope you weren't. [7:09] Yung iba kasi hindi, baka akala ko anong ibig sabihin. [7:12] And we're on TV. [7:13] So we can be on opposite sides, but we can be very professional. [7:18] So the second manifestation, Mr. President and Honorable Presiding Officer, you know, much have been said about technicalities, humahaba to, may mga relevant, irrelevant. [7:34] So I just want the prosecution and defense to know, because we're going to go on a short break. [7:40] Short lang naman, Sona sa Monday kontra Sona sa Tuesday. [7:45] Makikita tayo sa Wednesday. [7:47] Both sides, you're doing a good job. [7:50] Both sides. [7:50] I mean, the prosecution, your job is to prosecute, and the defense, your job is to defend. [7:56] The onus is on us. [7:59] May tinatawag na defense senator judge. [8:02] May tinatawag na prosecution senator judge. [8:07] Wala pa akong impeachment dito na hindi nangyari yan. [8:10] Diba? [8:11] Ang importante, hindi lang yung risulta, but yung proseso. [8:14] And I always say, democracy is messy. [8:16] If you want a dictatorship, it's less messy, but it's a dictatorship. [8:21] May problema. [8:22] You want a democracy, it's not. [8:24] Diba? [8:25] Having said that, I have a lot of questions, but I want to show Senator Rafi Tulfo some good faith, [8:31] because he always shows me good faith when we're in the lounge. [8:36] Hindi ko na itatanong today, since I think in the next few weeks, madalas naman kami magkikita ni Director Matibag, [8:43] dahil marami siyang iniimbestigahan na kasama ako doon. [8:46] So I'll be seeing you, Mr. Director. [8:49] Thank you, Mr. Presiding Officer. [8:50] Thank you, Senator Judge Alan Gaetano. [8:53] Senator Judge Amy Marcos is recognized for her questions and interjections. [8:59] You may proceed, ma'am. You have two minutes. [9:00] Yes, thank you very much to our presiding judge. [9:06] Ay, kumusta, Tony Mel, Congresswoman Ann, at sa lahat na narito. [9:11] Eh, itatanong ko lang, kasi sinusundan ko rin yung kwento ninyo, [9:17] na kahapon sabi ninyo na 100% certain na si VP Sarah contracted someone over the alleged plan to kill the President as well as two others. [9:25] Tapos, ito naman, eh, corroborative naman ito, nung sinabi ninyo, nung 29 April yata sa House of Representatives, [9:36] na sinabi rin ninyo, meron na kaming leads, at mukhang talaga yun ang findings. [9:40] Kaya may grave threat at inciting. Tama ba na sinabi po ninyo to? [9:46] Tama po. Meron pong report po. [9:48] At alam din natin na nag-file na yung NBI February 2025 na ng inciting to sedition case against VP February last year. [10:03] Ngayon, nagtatanong lang ako, 14 months later, as late as 29 April, the NBI still has not identified yung supposed assassin. [10:14] Does it mean na at the time na nagpila sila ng kaso ng inciting, nung Pebrero na nakaraang taon, [10:21] the NBI wasn't even sure if there was an actual assassin? [10:24] Alam ko, before your time to, no, Mel? [10:27] Pero, tinatanong ko lang, how can the NBI be sure there was really a contract if they can't even identify the said assassin? [10:36] Respectfully po, Your Honor, magkaiba po kasi ang elemento nung yung pong kaso ng grave threat at inciting [10:43] based on the investigation report at based po sa findings ng NBI noon, [10:49] eh, nakompleto na po yung elemento ng grave threats at saka na-inciting to sedition. [10:53] Hindi naman po kailangang mahanap kung sino po yung kinausap na assassin. [10:59] That is not an element for the filing of a complaint. [11:06] So, ang sinasabi po ninyo, tama yung pagka-file, pero hindi kumpleto yung mga findings dun sa Affidavit of Investigation [11:14] dahil yan din ang sinabi ni NBI agent attorney Longtok na nandito siya at pinahihwating niya na siya'y lead investigator [11:23] pero wala siyang personal knowledge of whether there was an actual assassin. [11:28] So, why is it that 14 months after filing of the cases, the assassin is yet to be named? [11:34] At ngayon, humihingi pa kayo ng 3 hanggang 6 na buwan para tuklasin kung sino nga yun. [11:39] So, ganito nga po, yung pong grave threat at inciting to sedition, nandun na po sa DOJ yan. [11:47] That is the subject of a resolution na dapat gawin ng DOJ. [11:51] Magkaiba po yan, hiwalay po natin. [11:53] Ito pong ating investigation dito is an investigation because of the continuing active and serious threat [12:00] to the president amounting to the effect na yung national security is only being compromised. [12:07] So, doon po natin tinitingnan. [12:09] Hindi po yan ang sinabi ninyo eh. [12:11] Kasi ang sinabi ninyo doon sa House of Representatives, sa Justice Committee, [12:17] eh maliwanag sa amin nyo na meron kaming leads at mukhang ito na talaga ang findings. [12:24] Kaya nga po, nag-file ng kaso ng grave threat at inciting to sedition. [12:30] Sabi ninyo, yan ang dahilan. [12:32] That was your statement. [12:33] Because if you stand by these words na may finding na talaga, [12:38] at yun ang dahilan kaya nagpila noong February, as early as February, [12:43] the date that the NBI filed, [12:45] the NBI already had findings that VP Sarah spoke with an assassin. [12:50] How come, kayo ngayon, sinasabi ninyo na wala naman noong panahon na yun? [12:56] Ganon din ang sinabi ni Attorney Lotto. [13:00] So, hindi ko maintindihan ngayon. [13:02] Talaga bang may assassin na na-identify noong Pebrero o wala? [13:08] Wala pong na-identify noong February. [13:10] Bakit ninyo sinabi doon sa House of Representatives na yung dahilan na nagpila ng kaso [13:16] kasi meron na kayong assassin? [13:18] That is totally bagkaiba po na issue. [13:22] Again, babalik po ako. [13:23] Pareho yung issue eh. [13:24] Kasi yun din ang inaalam noong Justice Committee noon eh. [13:28] At ang liwa-liwanag na sabi nyo, [13:30] yung dahilan na nakapagpila na sila [13:33] ay dahil natuklasan na yung assassin. [13:36] Wala pong sinabi doon natuklasan. [13:38] I also mentioned at that time that there are persons of interest. [13:41] Again, we have to go back po [13:43] na yung inciting to the sedition. [13:46] Tama po po yung transcript kasi. [13:47] Okay po. Tama naman po yung binabasa niya. [13:50] Kaya nga nag-file ng kaso kasi meron na kaming leads. [13:54] Ang liwanag ng pagkasabi ninyo eh. [13:57] We are referring, may lead na nga po, [13:59] ibig sabihin, yung puong grave threat completed na eh. [14:03] Meron ng threat. [14:04] In fact, tumatawid na po tayo sa merong kinausap. [14:07] And we are already talking about, [14:09] doon sa admission ni mismo ni Vice President Sarah, [14:13] na meron siyang kinausap na papatay [14:15] at pumayag yung papatay. [14:17] Parang napakaliwanag nung sinabi niyo noon [14:20] at mas malabod di hamak ngayon. [14:23] Ngayon, bakit kinailangan pa mag-issue ng AO11? [14:27] Kung talaga namang continuing investigation. [14:31] Dahil ba ito sa April 12 yung sinasabi niyong Rage Coalition? [14:37] Kasama po yan. [14:38] Paulit-ulit ko pong sinasabi na there is a five points [14:41] na tinignan po natin na ginagamit po ng isang [14:45] may suicide service. [14:47] Yes, we're aware of that. [14:48] The sexual, economic, etc. [14:50] Alam naman natin yun. [14:51] Kasi yan din ang gamit ng US, di ba? [14:53] Tama po. [14:54] Kaya po, merong ongoing investigation. [14:56] Sinabi ko na yung threat is serious, [14:59] continuing, and active, [15:01] na ito po ay tumatawid na rin [15:03] to the level of national security. [15:04] Kung talagang may pattern of violence, [15:07] doon sa Rage Coalition launching, [15:09] andun ba si VP Sara? [15:11] Wala po. [15:12] Ganun pala eh. [15:13] As a matter of fact, [15:15] she wasn't even there. [15:17] Siya ba nagsalita? [15:18] Siya ba nagsabi noon? [15:20] Si Mayor Baste po. [15:22] Are you implying na may conspira si [15:24] kay VP Sara at Mayor Baste [15:26] to have the president killed? [15:28] Yan po yung aming tinitingnan. [15:29] Kanina po, tanong ni Senator Pink Lakson. [15:31] Tinitingnan po natin kung mayroong sabwatan po [15:34] na nangyayari. [15:34] May katibayan ba tayo dito sa conspiracy? [15:38] Dahil matindi ang pinag-aralan niyo bilang abogado. [15:42] Sapat ba ito para ipakita [15:44] na may conspiracy dun sa dalawa? [15:46] Yun po din yung sagot ko kanina [15:48] kay Senator Pink Lakson. [15:49] Kaya po hindi pa nakasuhan [15:50] sapagkat tulad po [15:52] ng mga kaso na pumapasok [15:54] at alam po ng mga abogado [15:56] na conspiracy is sometimes harder to prove [15:59] than the crime itself. [16:00] That's why we have to make a case build up [16:02] para ba siguro po natin [16:04] nang isasampang kaso [16:05] sa madaling sabi [16:07] wala pa pong katibayan [16:08] ng conspiracy. [16:10] Yun po yung tinitingnan nga [16:11] nating angulo [16:12] kaya tinitingnan na [16:13] pero sa ngayon [16:14] habang tayo ang naglilitis dito [16:16] wala pa. [16:17] Kung meron na po [16:18] na ipile na po namin yan [16:19] kailangan po lumusot ito [16:21] under memorandum [16:22] circular number 20 [16:23] of the Department of Justice [16:24] reasonable certainty [16:26] of condition. [16:26] Alam natin yan. [16:28] Ang sabi ninyo [16:30] yung special task force [16:32] ano ang gagawin [16:34] ng special task force [16:35] kung natumbok na rin [16:36] yung asasin [16:37] noong Pebrero pa? [16:39] O natumbok na [16:40] ninyo [16:41] ngayon [16:41] na nasa [16:42] ilan na na interview ninyo? [16:44] Ano ang gagawin [16:45] sa mga asasin na to? [16:47] Then [16:48] kailangan po natin [16:49] silang investigan [16:50] at kausapin [16:50] kung gano'ng kalawak [16:51] para malaman po natin [16:53] kung huminto da ba [16:54] ang threats sa presidente. [16:55] Sa pagkatalamin natin [16:56] kung sino po [16:57] ang mga kausap. [16:58] Dahil maraming nagtatanong [16:59] kung bakit pa kailangan [17:01] mag case build up [17:02] samantalang [17:03] eto na tayo [17:04] sa impeachment trial [17:05] eto na tayo [17:07] na wala pang [17:08] actual assassination [17:09] kaya [17:11] hindi naman [17:12] maintindihan [17:14] kung ano pa [17:15] ang silbi [17:16] ng special task force. [17:18] Alam po ninyo [17:18] yung pong [17:19] dito sa impeachment [17:20] magkaiba po [17:21] yung requirement eh. [17:23] Hindi naman po [17:23] natin kailangan [17:24] pang ipresenta [17:25] kung sino yung [17:25] kinausap na asasin. [17:27] Ang importante lang po rito [17:29] yung admission mismo [17:31] ng vice presidente [17:32] na humanap siya [17:33] ng mamamatay [17:34] para patayin [17:35] ang presidente [17:36] at iyon ay pumayag. [17:38] Doon po [17:38] papasok na yan. [17:39] Dahil po [17:40] respectfully [17:41] dito po sa [17:43] impeachment court [17:44] hindi naman po [17:45] hindi naman po [17:45] necessary [17:45] na may criminal [17:46] conviction [17:47] kaya po [17:47] inilatag po yan [17:48] kung ano-ano [17:48] yung mga basehan po. [17:49] Kindly wind up [17:50] sa atin presiding judge [17:52] at pati na rin [17:53] kay [17:53] attorney [17:54] Matibag [17:54] ang ating [17:55] director [17:55] sabi po ninyo [17:57] na matutumbok ninyo [17:59] ito sa loob [17:59] ng 3 hanggang [18:00] 6 na buwan [18:01] kung maari [18:02] eh [18:03] sabihin na ninyo [18:05] sa amin [18:05] pwede naman [18:06] i-disclose [18:06] kung tutuusin [18:07] at sasampahan [18:08] naman niya [18:09] ng demanda [18:10] through regular [18:11] filing [18:11] hindi dito [18:12] sa impeachment [18:12] at di naman siya [18:13] subject of [18:14] arrest for [18:15] inquest [18:16] proceeding [18:16] bakit hindi [18:17] sabihin [18:18] or kung maari [18:19] bumalik na lang [18:20] kayo [18:20] in 3 to 6 months [18:21] pwede bang [18:22] i-requestion [18:23] kapag meron na [18:24] kayong natuklasan [18:25] at napunteri [18:26] ang asasin [18:27] Again, ang sagot ko po [18:28] dyan [18:28] iba po naman yung [18:30] national security [18:31] protection [18:32] at impeachment [18:32] dito po sa [18:34] impeachment [18:34] yung sinasabing [18:35] betrayal [18:36] of public trust [18:37] ay pumasok na po [18:39] dahil meron pong [18:40] sinumpang tungkuli [18:41] ng ating [18:41] vice-presidente [18:42] to protect [18:43] and defend [18:44] the constitution [18:44] execute the law [18:46] do justice [18:47] to everyone [18:48] and consecrate [18:49] consecrate [18:50] herself to the [18:50] service of the nation [18:51] Alam po natin yan [18:52] E yung pong ginawa niya po [18:54] papasok po yun [18:55] sa [18:56] betrayal of public trust [18:58] kasi [18:58] enforce the law [19:00] do justice [19:01] pero ito po [19:02] execute the law [19:04] ito execute the [19:05] president po [19:06] Alam po natin yan [19:07] pero binubuo natin [19:08] ang mga elemento [19:09] ng rape threats [19:10] at incitement [19:11] inciting to sedition [19:13] maraming salamat [19:14] thank you senator [19:15] judge [19:16] Imi [19:16] any other [19:18] senator judge [19:18] who wishes to [19:19] make an interjection [19:21] unless [19:22] senator [19:23] senator judge [19:26] will have [19:27] some interjections [19:28] then [19:28] just a few [19:33] questions [19:34] Annika [19:34] kindly turn on [19:35] the timer [19:36] to [19:36] just to be [19:37] sure the time [19:38] within the time [19:39] director [19:41] director [19:41] matibag [19:41] ito ba [19:42] ang unang [19:42] pagkakataon [19:43] na may binuwang [19:43] task force [19:44] para mag [19:44] investiga [19:45] sa mga [19:45] banta [19:45] laban [19:46] sa pangulo [19:46] sa pag-aalala [19:48] ko po [19:49] sa kasaysayan [19:50] ng NBI [19:50] based on the [19:52] records [19:52] turnover [19:53] to me [19:53] wala po [19:54] hindi po ba [19:55] normal [19:56] regular [19:56] at ordinaryo [19:57] lamang [19:57] na magkaroon [19:58] ng banta [19:58] ang pangulo [19:59] ikalawang pangulo [20:00] o sino mang [20:01] mataas na [20:01] opisyal [20:01] o sino mang [20:02] mayaman [20:02] dito sa ating [20:03] bansa [20:03] kaya kami [20:04] mga bodyguards [20:05] sila [20:05] diba [20:05] tama po yan [20:07] araw-araw po [20:11] at kung may mga [20:13] threat tulad [20:14] nito [20:14] at kung itong [20:14] unang [20:15] pagkakataon [20:15] ginawa ito [20:16] ng NBI [20:16] ang humahawak [20:17] ng mga [20:18] bantang ito [20:18] ay ang PSC [20:19] na [20:19] o PSG [20:20] dati [20:21] tama po [20:21] kaya po [20:23] meron po [20:23] kami [20:23] coordination [20:24] tutumbukin ko [20:26] na po [20:26] yung mga [20:26] punto ko [20:27] para [20:27] hindi ako [20:27] lumamba [20:28] sa oras [20:28] na [20:29] sinusunda [20:30] ng lahat [20:31] sa inyong [20:32] investigasyon [20:33] may bayad [20:34] po ba [20:34] yung kinausap [20:35] ni VP [20:35] Sarah [20:36] kung 100% [20:37] certain po [20:38] kayo [20:38] na may [20:39] kinausap [20:39] siya [20:39] para [20:40] patayin [20:41] may bayad [20:43] po ba [20:43] yun [20:43] o libre [20:43] that is [20:44] the part [20:45] of the [20:45] investigation [20:46] that we [20:46] have to [20:47] establish [20:47] so [20:48] sa ngayon [20:49] hindi pa [20:49] po [20:49] niyo [20:49] sigurado [20:50] kung [20:50] pagkakaibigan [20:52] lang [20:52] o samahan [20:53] lang [20:53] o may [20:53] bayad [20:54] yung [20:54] usapan [20:55] yun [20:55] tama [20:56] po [20:56] but [20:56] we [20:56] consider [20:57] every [20:57] possibilities [20:57] ngayon [20:58] would it [20:59] matter [21:00] Director [21:00] Matibag [21:01] kung [21:01] sino [21:01] yung [21:01] sinabihan [21:02] niya [21:02] kasama [21:03] po [21:03] sa lima [21:03] niyong [21:04] pamantayan [21:04] na binanggit [21:05] po [21:05] ninyo [21:06] ay [21:06] identity [21:07] of [21:08] person [21:08] involved [21:12] That will be [21:28] considered [21:28] in the [21:28] investigation [21:29] Sa ibig sabihin [21:30] hindi po [21:31] yun [21:31] babagsak [21:33] sa valid [21:33] threat [21:33] Hindi po [21:34] natin [21:36] alam [21:36] at [21:36] kailangan [21:37] pong [21:37] alamin [21:37] yung [21:37] kung [21:37] ano [21:37] yung [21:38] pag-uusap [21:38] o [21:38] ano [21:38] mag-consideration [21:40] Pero [21:40] base [21:40] sa inyong [21:41] karanasan [21:41] po [21:41] kung [21:42] retired [21:42] police [21:43] retired [21:43] military [21:44] active [21:45] police [21:45] marahil [21:46] mas malaki [21:48] po ang [21:48] posibilidad [21:49] Pero [21:49] kung [21:50] walang [21:50] military [21:50] background [21:51] walang [21:52] background [21:52] kaugnay [21:53] sa paggamit [21:53] na anumang [21:54] uri [21:54] ng [21:54] armas [21:55] o [21:55] walang [21:55] background [21:56] kaugnay [21:56] sa anumang [21:57] karahasang [21:57] nagawa [21:57] na niya [21:58] sa kapwa [21:58] niya [21:58] may [21:59] basiyan [22:00] din po [22:00] yun [22:00] para [22:00] sabihin [22:01] yung [22:01] kabaliktaran [22:01] hindi [22:01] po [22:01] ba [22:02] At [22:04] bilang [22:05] Panguling [22:05] katanungan [22:06] ito [22:06] po [22:06] ang inyong [22:06] task force [22:07] ay binuo [22:07] para [22:08] investigahan [22:08] ng [22:13] mga [22:13] kasong [22:14] isinampana [22:14] laban [22:14] sa kanya [22:15] na grave [22:16] threats [22:16] at inciting [22:17] the [22:17] sedisyon [22:17] Tama po [22:18] Your [22:18] Honor [22:18] Thank you [22:19] Director [22:19] Matibag [22:20] unless [22:20] there [22:20] are [22:20] any [22:21] other [22:21] Senator [22:22] Judge [22:22] Legarda [22:23] I'm [22:23] sorry [22:23] you are [22:24] recognized [22:25] I thought [22:25] there was [22:25] no other [22:26] Senator [22:26] Judge [22:27] that's [22:27] why [22:27] I [22:27] already [22:27] interjected [22:28] Senator [22:29] Judge [22:29] Legarda [22:29] for [22:30] her [22:31] interjection [22:32] Senator [22:34] Soto [22:35] You have [22:37] two minutes [22:38] ma'am [22:38] I guess [22:44] I'm the [22:44] last [22:44] to ask [22:45] I don't [22:45] know [22:45] why [22:46] the [22:46] majority [22:46] Senators [22:48] Machu [22:48] block [22:49] don't [22:49] want [22:49] me [22:49] to [22:49] ask [22:50] simple [22:50] questions [22:51] so [22:51] national [22:51] security [22:52] no [22:53] this [22:54] is [22:54] levity [22:55] aside [22:55] it's [22:56] a [22:56] talk [22:56] it's [22:58] very [22:58] simple [22:58] I [22:59] studied [22:59] national [23:00] security [23:00] I'm [23:00] a [23:00] graduate [23:01] of [23:01] my [23:02] master's [23:02] in [23:02] national [23:03] security [23:03] I was [23:03] discussing [23:04] it [23:04] with [23:04] former [23:05] general [23:06] because [23:07] the [23:08] words [23:08] national [23:09] security [23:09] have [23:09] been [23:10] used [23:10] many [23:11] times [23:11] in [23:11] this [23:12] hall [23:12] in [23:12] the [23:13] past [23:13] few [23:13] days [23:13] so [23:14] my [23:14] questions [23:14] are [23:15] very [23:15] simple [23:15] to [23:16] just [23:17] for [23:17] the [23:17] record [23:17] he's [23:18] my friend [23:18] my [23:19] kumpadre [23:20] director [23:21] Melvin [23:22] Matibag [23:22] and [23:22] congresswoman [23:23] Ann [23:23] okay [23:24] so [23:25] hindi po [23:25] dahil [23:26] nagpapalamot [23:27] ako [23:27] dahil [23:27] kumpare [23:28] ko [23:28] siya [23:29] gusto [23:30] ko [23:30] lang [23:30] ipahayag [23:31] ang [23:31] simpleng [23:32] katanungan [23:33] dahil [23:33] madalas [23:33] yung [23:33] ginagamit [23:34] national [23:34] security [23:35] at [23:35] alam [23:35] to [23:35] ni [23:36] Melvin [23:36] national [23:37] security [23:38] expert [23:39] graduate [23:40] I [23:40] studied [23:41] it [23:41] batay [23:42] po [23:42] sa [23:42] inyong [23:43] kaalaman [23:43] records [23:44] o [23:45] ebidensyang [23:46] nakalap [23:46] meron bang [23:47] mas [23:48] malawak [23:49] na [23:49] koordinasyon [23:50] sa isang [23:51] interagency [23:52] task force [23:53] o [23:54] coordinated [23:55] action [23:56] sa pagitan [23:57] ng inyong [23:57] biyuro [23:58] ang [23:58] NBI [23:59] ang [24:00] presidential [24:01] security [24:02] command [24:02] or group [24:03] perhaps [24:04] ang [24:04] philippine [24:05] national [24:05] police [24:06] or [24:06] even [24:06] the [24:07] national [24:07] security [24:08] council [24:09] orang [24:10] NSA [24:11] at [24:12] iba [24:12] pang [24:12] mga [24:12] ahensyang [24:13] may [24:13] kaugnayan [24:14] dahil [24:15] sa mga [24:15] alleged [24:16] na [24:16] pahayag [24:17] ng ating [24:18] vice [24:18] presidente [24:18] meron po [24:20] ako po [24:21] merong makikipag-usap [24:22] po [24:22] sa mga [24:23] PSD [24:24] po [24:24] may [24:24] coordination [24:25] kami [24:25] katunayan [24:26] yung [24:26] aming [24:27] ibang [24:27] inaksyonan [24:28] ay [24:28] base [24:29] po [24:29] sa [24:29] intel [24:30] report [24:30] po [24:30] sa amin [24:31] ng [24:31] PSD [24:32] ng [24:32] presidential [24:33] security [24:34] command [24:34] at [24:35] meron [24:35] din nga [24:35] po [24:35] nabanggit [24:36] ko [24:36] na [24:36] kanina [24:36] pag [24:37] ipag-ugnayan [24:37] po [24:38] sa military [24:38] at [24:39] sa [24:40] security [24:40] cluster [24:41] through [24:42] the [24:42] executive [24:43] secretary [24:43] po [24:43] so [24:45] all of [24:46] these [24:46] discussions [24:46] are there [24:48] issuances [24:49] memoranda [24:51] notices [24:52] minutes [24:55] directives [24:55] reports [24:56] official [24:57] documentation [24:58] na [25:00] nagpapatunay [25:01] sa [25:01] naturang [25:02] coordination [25:02] ng task [25:03] force [25:03] yung [25:05] aking [25:05] report [25:06] ay [25:06] aking [25:06] isinusumite [25:07] through [25:07] the [25:08] office [25:08] of [25:08] executive [25:09] secretary [25:09] po [25:09] how [25:10] long [25:11] have [25:11] you [25:11] had [25:11] this [25:11] interagency [25:12] task [25:13] force [25:13] and [25:13] is [25:14] there [25:14] such [25:14] a [25:14] name [25:14] of [25:15] a [25:15] task [25:15] force [25:16] where [25:16] was [25:17] it [25:17] kailan [25:17] po [25:17] tinatag [25:18] kailan [25:18] natapos [25:19] was [25:19] there [25:20] a [25:20] terminal [25:20] report [25:21] and [25:22] would [25:22] you [25:23] consider [25:23] it [25:23] you've [25:25] always [25:25] said [25:25] it's [25:26] a [25:26] national [25:26] security [25:27] concern [25:27] well [25:28] there's [25:29] no [25:29] specific [25:30] task [25:30] force [25:30] but [25:30] the [25:31] coordination [25:31] as I [25:32] said [25:32] is [25:32] to [25:32] the [25:32] executive [25:33] secretary [25:33] but [25:34] we [25:34] are [25:34] also [25:35] coordinating [25:35] with [25:36] the [25:36] presidential [25:37] security [25:37] command [25:38] and [25:38] on [25:39] the [25:39] military [25:40] group [25:40] Mr. [25:42] presiding [25:42] officer [25:43] would [25:43] the [25:43] reports [25:44] of [25:45] the [25:45] interagency [25:46] task [25:46] force [25:46] that [25:47] in [25:47] the [25:47] NBI [25:48] be [25:49] given [25:49] to [25:50] the [25:50] body [25:50] so [25:50] that [25:50] we [25:51] have [25:51] an [25:51] idea [25:51] of [25:52] the [25:52] investigations [25:54] conducted [25:55] by [25:55] the [25:55] NBI [25:56] has [25:56] it [25:56] been [25:56] submitted [25:57] let [26:00] the [26:00] presiding [26:00] officer [26:01] make [26:01] a [26:01] distinction [26:01] again [26:02] the [26:02] court [26:03] should [26:03] be [26:03] a [26:03] passive [26:04] body [26:04] we [26:04] should [26:04] be [26:04] receiving [26:05] evidence [26:05] through [26:06] the [26:06] through [26:07] the [26:07] counsel [26:09] of [26:09] the [26:10] parties [26:10] unless [26:11] someone [26:12] would [26:13] present [26:14] it [26:14] the [26:14] court [26:15] should [26:15] simply [26:16] await [26:16] its [26:17] submission [26:17] if at [26:17] all [26:18] through [26:18] the [26:18] parties [26:19] so [26:19] my [26:19] question [26:20] would [26:20] be [26:20] was [26:20] this [26:21] submitted [26:21] as part [26:22] of [26:22] your [26:23] evidence [26:23] the [26:24] terminal [26:24] report [26:24] and [26:25] the [26:25] investigations [26:25] conducted [26:27] by [26:27] this [26:27] interagency [26:28] body [26:29] because [26:29] it's [26:29] the [26:29] first [26:29] time [26:30] I'm [26:30] actually [26:30] realizing [26:31] that there [26:32] was [26:32] such [26:32] an [26:32] interagency [26:33] body [26:33] and that [26:34] this [26:34] was [26:34] actually [26:35] discussed [26:35] in the [26:36] National [26:36] Security [26:36] Council [26:37] Well [26:37] sabi [26:38] nga [26:38] po [26:38] through [26:39] the [26:39] executive [26:39] secretary [26:40] we [26:40] have [26:40] been [26:40] making [26:40] reports [26:41] and [26:41] for [26:42] reasons [26:42] that [26:42] I [26:43] mentioned [26:43] yesterday [26:43] that [26:44] I [26:44] cannot [26:44] give [26:45] the [26:46] reports [26:47] that [26:48] are [26:49] confidential [26:50] in nature [26:51] ay [26:51] hindi [26:52] ko po [26:52] ito [26:52] may bahagi [26:53] sa [26:54] impeachment [26:56] court [26:57] po [26:57] na ito [26:58] so [26:58] so [26:58] wala [26:58] po [26:58] pinabigyan [27:00] maski [27:01] anong [27:01] mga [27:01] copy [27:02] reports [27:02] even [27:03] just [27:03] a [27:03] summation [27:04] of [27:05] all [27:05] these [27:05] investigations [27:06] it was [27:06] given [27:06] to [27:07] the [27:07] executive [27:07] secretary [27:08] and [27:09] this [27:09] court [27:09] has [27:09] a [27:10] copy [27:12] of [27:12] it [27:13] therefore [27:13] I [27:14] would [27:14] terminate [27:15] my [27:15] questions [27:16] here [27:16] and [27:17] if [27:17] we [27:17] don't [27:17] have [27:17] a [27:17] copy [27:18] of [27:18] that [27:18] report [27:18] then [27:19] we [27:19] leave [27:19] it [27:19] at [27:19] that [27:20] thank [27:20] you [27:20] very [27:20] much [27:20] thank [27:21] you [27:21] senator [27:22] judge [27:22] legarda [27:23] if there [27:24] are no [27:24] other [27:24] senator [27:25] judges [27:25] who [27:25] wishes [27:25] to [27:26] make [27:26] interjections [27:27] is [27:28] there [27:28] anything [27:29] that [27:29] either [27:29] of [27:30] the [27:30] council [27:30] for [27:30] the [27:31] parties [27:31] wish [27:31] to [27:31] state [27:33] before [27:33] we [27:34] adjourn [27:36] attorney [27:36] I [27:37] see [27:38] you [27:38] standing [27:38] up [27:38] if [27:40] there [27:41] are [27:41] none [27:41] chair [27:41] would [27:41] now [27:42] like [27:42] to [27:42] dispose [27:42] of [27:42] some [27:43] administrative [27:43] matters [27:44] first [27:45] the [27:48] chair [27:48] would [27:48] like [27:49] to [27:49] remind [27:49] the [27:50] parties [27:50] in [27:51] connection [27:51] with [27:51] the [27:51] conference [27:52] for [27:52] the [27:52] marking [27:53] and [27:53] or [27:53] transfer [27:54] of [27:54] markings [27:55] and [27:55] comparison [27:55] of [27:56] video [27:56] exhibits [27:56] tomorrow [27:58] at [27:58] 10am [27:59] at [27:59] the [27:59] Rector [28:00] Room [28:00] this [28:00] shall [28:00] proceed [28:01] senator [28:03] judge [28:04] Soto [28:04] what [28:04] is [28:04] your [28:04] pleasure [28:04] sir [28:05] I'm [28:05] sorry [28:05] your [28:06] honor [28:06] kind [28:07] sir [28:07] won't [28:08] we [28:09] dispose [28:09] of [28:09] the [28:09] witness [28:10] first [28:10] you [28:11] are [28:11] correct [28:12] your [28:12] honor [28:12] thank [28:13] you [28:14] if [28:15] there [28:15] are [28:15] no [28:15] further [28:16] questions [28:17] director [28:18] Matibag [28:18] your [28:18] excuse [28:19] sir [28:19] thank [28:19] you [28:19] for [28:20] your [28:20] time [28:20] thank [28:20] you [28:20] for [28:20] your [28:21] cooperation [28:21] and [28:21] thank [28:22] you [28:22] for [28:22] your [28:22] patience [28:22] as [28:23] well [28:23] thank [28:26] you [28:26] the [28:32] state [28:32] the [28:33] conference [28:34] tomorrow [28:34] 10am [28:35] the [28:35] parties [28:35] are [28:35] duly [28:36] reminded [28:36] at [28:37] the [28:37] Rector [28:37] Room [28:38] number [28:39] two [28:39] Sabina [28:41] shall [28:41] be [28:42] issued [28:42] the [28:42] clerk [28:43] of [28:43] court [28:43] is [28:43] directed [28:43] to [28:44] issue [28:44] Sabina [28:44] to [28:45] Miss [28:45] Violeta [28:45] Constantino [28:46] former [28:47] land [28:47] bank [28:47] manager [28:48] and [28:48] Miss [28:49] Nanita [28:49] Camposano [28:50] former [28:50] branch [28:51] manager [28:51] also [28:51] of [28:52] land [28:52] bank [28:52] for [28:54] the [28:54] presumption [28:55] of [28:55] trial [28:56] on [28:56] Wednesday [28:58] July [28:59] 29 [29:00] at [29:01] 10am [29:02] unless [29:04] the [29:04] court [29:04] issues [29:05] a [29:05] subsequent [29:06] order [29:06] recalling [29:07] or changing [29:07] the date [29:08] of the [29:08] same [29:09] and [29:10] and [29:10] one [29:11] last [29:11] point [29:12] administratively [29:13] chair [29:13] would [29:13] like [29:14] to [29:14] remind [29:14] the [29:16] parties [29:17] to [29:17] this [29:17] case [29:18] of [29:18] article [29:19] 18 [29:19] pertaining [29:20] to [29:20] the [29:23] rule [29:23] on [29:24] making [29:24] comments [29:25] or [29:25] disclosures [29:26] on the [29:26] part [29:27] of the [29:27] prosecutors [29:28] counsel [29:29] for [29:29] respondents [29:30] and their [29:30] witnesses [29:31] I say [29:32] this [29:32] because [29:33] I [29:33] noticed [29:34] that [29:35] Attorney [29:37] Tolosa [29:37] who is [29:38] a [29:38] registered [29:39] counsel [29:41] for [29:42] the [29:42] panel [29:43] of [29:43] prosecutors [29:43] and [29:44] Attorney [29:44] Poa [29:44] who is [29:45] a [29:45] registered [29:45] counsel [29:46] for [29:46] the [29:46] respondent [29:47] are [29:47] both [29:47] serving [29:48] as [29:49] the [29:49] spokespersons [29:50] as [29:50] well [29:50] thus [29:52] far [29:52] both [29:52] have [29:53] been [29:53] very [29:53] careful [29:53] but [29:54] as [29:55] the [29:55] trial [29:55] goes [29:55] on [29:56] it [29:57] might [29:57] take [29:58] its [29:58] toll [29:58] with [29:58] respect [29:59] to [29:59] the [30:00] spokespersons [30:00] and [30:01] councils [30:01] at the [30:01] same [30:02] time [30:02] being able [30:02] to [30:02] distinguish [30:03] between [30:04] the [30:04] merits [30:04] of [30:04] the [30:04] case [30:05] and [30:05] purely [30:05] procedural [30:06] observations [30:07] and [30:08] or [30:08] facts [30:08] so [30:09] you [30:09] might [30:09] want [30:09] to [30:10] consider [30:10] in [30:12] order [30:12] to [30:13] give [30:13] a [30:13] freer [30:13] hand [30:14] nominating [30:15] a [30:16] spokesperson [30:16] that [30:17] is [30:17] not [30:18] limited [30:19] by [30:19] the [30:19] rules [30:19] of [30:20] the [30:21] impeachment [30:21] court [30:21] with [30:22] respect [30:22] to [30:22] what [30:22] he [30:22] or [30:23] she [30:24] can [30:24] say [30:24] because [30:25] for [30:25] your [30:25] information [30:26] the [30:26] court [30:27] will [30:27] be [30:28] monitoring [30:28] the [30:29] statements [30:29] being [30:29] issued [30:30] by [30:30] the [30:30] counsel [30:31] for [30:32] the [30:32] parties [30:33] for the [30:34] information [30:34] and [30:34] guidance [30:34] of [30:35] the [30:36] counsels [30:37] and [30:38] since [30:39] this is [30:39] the [30:39] last [30:39] witness [30:40] of [30:40] the [30:40] panel [30:42] of [30:42] prosecutors [30:42] for [30:43] article [30:43] 4 [30:44] chair [30:45] would [30:45] like [30:45] to [30:45] inform [30:46] the [30:46] senator [30:47] judges [30:48] that [30:49] the [30:50] pretrial [30:50] order [30:50] allocated [30:51] 11 [30:51] days [30:52] for [30:53] the [30:53] presentation [30:53] of [30:54] this [30:54] article [30:55] by [30:55] the [30:55] panel [30:55] of [30:55] prosecutors [30:56] they [30:57] actually [30:57] consumed [30:58] only [30:58] six [30:59] days [30:59] given [30:59] the [31:00] withdrawal [31:00] of [31:00] certain [31:01] witnesses [31:02] we [31:03] consumed [31:03] three [31:03] days [31:04] for [31:05] oral [31:05] arguments [31:06] on [31:06] the [31:06] subpoena [31:07] on [31:08] the [31:08] interjections [31:10] and [31:10] debates [31:10] with [31:10] senators [31:11] and [31:11] on [31:12] the [31:12] opening [31:12] statements [31:13] of [31:13] the [31:14] parties [31:14] a [31:15] total [31:15] of [31:15] nine [31:16] days [31:16] have [31:16] been [31:17] spent [31:17] therefore [31:18] since [31:18] we [31:18] started [31:19] so [31:19] we [31:20] are [31:20] still [31:20] ahead [31:20] of [31:21] two [31:21] days [31:22] based [31:22] on [31:22] the [31:23] timetable [31:23] given [31:24] in [31:24] the [31:24] pretrial [31:25] order [31:25] I [31:25] hope [31:25] we [31:26] can [31:26] be [31:26] able [31:26] to [31:26] continue [31:27] along [31:28] these [31:28] lines [31:29] yes [31:30] counsel [31:30] for [31:30] the [31:31] respondent [31:31] your [31:32] honor [31:32] maybe [31:32] inquire [31:33] of [31:33] the [31:33] order [31:33] of [31:34] presentation [31:34] for [31:35] Wednesday [31:35] next [31:35] week [31:36] it [31:36] will [31:37] be [31:38] miss [31:38] Violeta [31:38] Constantinos [31:39] understand [31:40] and [31:40] then [31:41] Miss [31:41] Danita [31:41] Camposano [31:42] we [31:43] confirm [31:43] your [31:43] honor [31:43] in [31:45] that [31:45] order [31:46] we [31:47] confirm [31:48] your [31:48] honor [31:48] in [31:49] that [31:49] order [31:49] any [31:51] other [31:52] matters [31:52] there [31:52] being [31:52] no [31:53] other [31:53] matters [31:53] yes [31:53] counsel [31:54] no [31:55] other [31:55] matters [31:55] one [31:56] other [31:56] other [31:57] matter [31:57] your [31:57] honor [31:57] so [31:58] more [31:59] than [31:59] one [31:59] witness [31:59] per [32:00] day [32:00] we [32:01] will [32:01] be [32:01] issuing [32:02] the [32:02] subpoena [32:03] for [32:03] both [32:03] in [32:03] case [32:03] I [32:05] have [32:05] no [32:05] idea [32:05] if [32:05] it's [32:06] going [32:06] to [32:06] be [32:06] a [32:06] short [32:06] direct [32:07] and [32:07] cross [32:07] and [32:07] or [32:08] recross [32:08] so [32:08] we [32:08] shall [32:09] see [32:16] Do I [32:22] assume [32:22] given [32:23] that [32:23] we [32:24] seem [32:24] to [32:24] be [32:24] continuing [32:25] in [32:25] the [32:25] same [32:25] manner [32:26] of [32:26] presentation [32:26] of [32:27] witness [32:27] that [32:27] I [32:29] understand [32:29] the [32:30] presiding [32:30] officer [32:30] discussed [32:31] with [32:31] counsel [32:31] about [32:32] changing [32:32] the [32:33] order [32:33] is [32:33] that [32:33] still [32:33] on [32:33] the [32:34] table [32:34] just [32:34] so [32:34] we [32:34] can [32:35] also [32:35] prepare [32:35] it [32:36] is [32:37] but [32:37] we [32:37] will [32:37] find [32:38] out [32:38] by [32:38] early [32:39] next [32:39] week [32:39] as [32:39] I'm [32:40] intimated [32:40] by [32:40] the [32:41] parties [32:41] that's [32:41] why [32:41] the [32:42] chair [32:42] earlier [32:42] stated [32:43] that [32:43] the [32:43] subpoena [32:44] shall [32:44] issue [32:44] unless [32:44] it [32:45] will [32:45] be [32:45] recalled [32:45] as [32:46] may [32:47] be [32:47] dictated [32:48] by [32:48] the [32:48] circumstances [32:48] we [32:49] will [32:50] discuss [32:50] it [32:50] once [32:50] there [32:51] is [32:51] agreement [32:52] among [32:53] the [32:53] parties [32:53] absent [32:53] one [32:54] then [32:54] we [32:54] shall [32:54] proceed [32:55] as [32:55] scheduled [32:55] there [32:57] being [32:57] no [32:57] other [32:57] business [32:58] trial [32:58] is [32:58] still [32:58] by [32:58] adjourned [32:59] until [32:59] kindly [33:00] take [33:01] 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