LOOK: Cop who chartered flight for Laos drug shipment faces Senate hearing — ANC

[0:00] Ms. Eileen Mendoza. [0:04] Yes, hello. Good morning. [0:06] Ganda kumagaw po. [0:08] Attorney Benjamin Guillermo Magadilla po, [0:10] counsel ni Eileen Mendoza. [0:13] Sayo ba si Eileen o supervisor? [0:15] I'm the lawyer of Eileen Mendoza po. [0:18] Okay. [0:20] Sige. [0:21] So, kumuha siya ng lawyer. [0:23] That's understandable. [0:24] So, sinabi ba ng inyo pong kliyente [0:27] kung bakit at that time [0:33] na darating yung aeroplano [0:35] siya mag-facilitate at [0:36] hindi niya ba alam na yung cargo? [0:41] In fact, nasabi niya pala, [0:42] excuse me, [0:42] nasabi niya ato sa media [0:43] na ang pagkakalam niya ay BAPE. [0:46] Tama? [0:47] Yes, Senator. Yes. [0:48] Yes. [0:49] At alam niya naman yung BAPE [0:50] ay kontrabando. [0:51] Bawal yun. [0:52] Na magparating at sa aeroplano [0:54] kasi dapat magbayad ng taxes sa customs. [0:58] Yun pong regarding that [0:59] hindi na po yun alam ng aking client [1:02] kasi ang kausap po niya [1:03] yung nag-import po ng cargo. [1:08] Kaya nga. [1:08] So, alam niya na BAPE, [1:10] alam niya na bawal. [1:13] So, sinong kausap? [1:15] Sinabi ba sa inyo? [1:17] Senator, [1:18] nagbigay na po ng statement po [1:21] ang client ko [1:22] sa PIDEA, [1:24] CIDG, [1:24] and NBI. [1:26] And so, [1:27] we will base everything. [1:28] No, yan. [1:28] Iba yun sa NBI, [1:29] iba yun sa CIDG, [1:30] iba yun dito sa hearing na ito. [1:32] Come on, attorney. [1:34] Ibigay mo sa amin [1:34] kung ano yung sinabi ng [1:35] ano mo, [1:36] kung ano yung sinabi ng [1:37] kliyente mo. [1:40] I want her. [1:41] I can you... [1:42] If he declines, [1:43] it's okay. [1:44] Kasi may abogado, [1:45] he has the right to [1:46] remain silent. [1:47] Pero, [1:48] ang gusto kong [1:48] manggagaling sa kanya [1:50] o hindi, [1:50] manggagaling sa bibig mo [1:51] kung sino yung [1:53] taong sinabi na niya [1:57] sa media [1:57] na naglumapit sa kanya. [2:02] Actually, [2:02] senator, [2:02] hindi pa naman po [2:03] siya nagpapa-interview [2:04] sa media. [2:05] Kaya, [2:05] so wala po siyang [2:06] personally na sinabi [2:07] regarding that. [2:09] O, [2:09] di sabihin mo sa amin ngayon. [2:11] Or let her speak. [2:12] Gustong ko siya magsalitay, [2:13] o. [2:14] Diba? [2:15] Ba't mo pinipigilan? [2:18] Hindi naman po namin [2:19] siya pinipigilan. [2:20] In fact, [2:20] nagbigay na nga po kami [2:21] ng sinumpang sa Laysay. [2:23] And then, [2:24] in due time, [2:24] we will release po [2:25] yung mga statements. [2:26] No, [2:26] not in due time. [2:27] If she's willing to talk, [2:28] let her talk. [2:29] Ba't mo inaharang? [2:32] Ay, [2:33] hindi ko naman po. [2:33] Sandali lang. [2:34] Aileen, [2:34] no, [2:34] shut up. [2:36] Sorry. [2:36] Aileen, [2:37] gusto magsalita? [2:38] May mga katanungan ako sa'yo. [2:39] Are you willing [2:40] to answer some questions? [2:43] Sir Chair, [2:45] I'm PEMS Aileen Jane Mendoza. [2:48] Sige po, [2:49] pwede po nyo akong tanong. [2:50] Okay. [2:50] So, [2:51] ikaw, [2:51] attorney, [2:51] tumayimik ka muna dyan, [2:52] okay? [2:53] I-off nga munang [2:54] ano nitong, [2:55] sige, [2:56] wag pala. [2:57] Tumayimik ka lang [2:57] hanggap hindi ka namin [2:58] sinabing magsalita, [3:00] okay? [3:00] Eh, [3:01] willing pala magsalita [3:01] ng klientin mo eh. [3:02] Ikaw, [3:03] dak-dak pa ng dak-dak dyan. [3:05] Okay, [3:05] Aileen, [3:06] magandang hapon po sa'yo. [3:08] Yes po, [3:09] Mr. Chair. [3:09] Magandang umaga. [3:10] Morning po. [3:11] Salamat sa pagpapaunlak, [3:14] Sargento. [3:16] Sino pong supervision [3:17] yung Sargento [3:17] at that time? [3:21] Yung director po ba [3:22] ng PNP, [3:23] Abse Group, [3:23] Sir? [3:24] O yun sa... [3:25] Sa airport. [3:26] Sa assignment. [3:27] Sa airport, [3:28] kung saan ka naka-assign? [3:30] Police Colonel, [3:31] Joanna Sarcilla po, [3:32] Sir. [3:33] Sir Chair. [3:34] Colonel? [3:36] Joanna Sarcilla. [3:37] Joanna Sarcilla. [3:39] Okay. [3:41] I'm sure [3:42] lahat ng mga [3:43] activities mo, [3:45] lahat ng mga [3:45] actions mo, [3:47] sinasabi mo sa kanya, [3:48] right? [3:48] As his, [3:49] as your immediate [3:50] supervisor? [3:52] Opo, [3:52] Mr. Chair. [3:53] Okay. [3:54] So, [3:54] nung malaman mo [3:55] na ang pagkasabi sa iyo, [3:58] daw, [3:59] kuno, [4:00] na merong [4:00] kargong vapes [4:02] yung aeroplano [4:04] na paparating. [4:06] Tama? [4:07] Opo, [4:08] Mr. Chair. [4:08] Sinabi niyo po ba yan [4:09] sa inyong supervisor [4:10] kay Colonel [4:11] Joanna [4:12] Saal? [4:15] Ano? [4:16] Sarcilla? [4:18] Opo. [4:19] Sinabi niyo ba yan [4:20] kay Colonel [4:21] Joanna Sarcilla [4:22] na, [4:22] boss, [4:24] may parating na aeroplano, [4:25] chartered flight from Laos, [4:27] eh, [4:27] huwag ka na maingay, [4:27] may kargito ng mga vapes. [4:30] Nasabi niyo po yan sa kanya. [4:32] Wala pong ganun, [4:33] Mr. Chair. [4:33] Pero alam mo, [4:34] di ba sinabi mo na na alam mo? [4:36] Nasabi mo na ata sa media [4:37] na akala mo vapes [4:38] ang laman? [4:39] Vape at cigarette po, [4:41] Mr. Chair. [4:42] Okay. [4:42] Vape at cigarette. [4:44] Alam mo na bawal yun? [4:46] Alam ko po, [4:47] Mr. Chair, [4:48] may mga kaukulang requirements po [4:50] na magbabayad po [4:53] kung sino po yung [4:54] consignee po dito [4:56] sa atin sa Pilipinas po. [4:58] Kaya nga, [5:00] kaya mo, [5:01] na yun ay dapat [5:02] magdadaan yun sa customs. [5:05] Opo. [5:08] Kung sigarili man yun, [5:10] customs yun maging sa vapes. [5:12] Na alam mo, [5:13] na bawal. [5:14] And yet, [5:15] pinurumahan mo, [5:16] pinacillitate mo. [5:17] Ang gusto ko lang malaman, [5:18] kung ito ba [5:20] inaipaalam mo sa boss mo [5:21] as your immediate supervisor? [5:24] Wala po, [5:24] Mr. Chair. [5:25] Kasi po, [5:26] if I may, [5:28] wala naman pong [5:29] facilitation po [5:31] na nangyari [5:32] sa ginawa ko po, [5:34] Mr. Chair. [5:35] Ang ginawa ko po kasi, [5:37] naghanap po ako [5:38] ng aircraft [5:39] na marerentahan. [5:41] Regarding po sa [5:42] facilitation, [5:44] hindi na po kasi ako [5:47] ang taong in charge doon [5:48] after ko pong [5:49] maghanap ng aircraft. [5:52] Yung kausap ko po na [5:54] tao po [5:55] na maghanap ng aircraft. [5:57] So, after po [5:57] ng payment sa kanya, [5:59] tapos na po yung [6:00] kung ano po yung [6:01] ginawa ko. [6:03] Nabigay ko na po yung... [6:03] Kaya nga po [6:04] naghanap ng tao. [6:06] Opo. [6:07] Diba? [6:08] Now, [6:10] sino yung [6:11] taong nahanap po ninyo? [6:13] Ang ALS Aviation po [6:15] under the [6:17] honor of [6:17] Captain Toledo, [6:20] Mr. Chair. [6:20] Captain Toledo. [6:22] Now, [6:23] alam ba ni Captain Toledo [6:25] na yung [6:27] aeroplano [6:28] na parating [6:29] ay merong karagang [6:30] kuno, [6:31] vapes [6:31] at cigarettes? [6:34] Isa po yun sa requirements, [6:35] Mr. Chair. [6:36] Lahat po nung... [6:37] Ipaalam sa kanya. [6:38] Opo, [6:39] Mr. Chair. [6:40] Kasama po siya [6:40] sa requirements. [6:42] Okay. [6:43] Pero bago ba [6:44] ako magsagot [6:45] ulit sa mga katanungan ko, [6:46] nandito yung customs. [6:48] Customs. [6:49] Alright. [6:50] Ano yung patakaran ninyo [6:51] na yung mga [6:53] chartered flights? [6:55] Yan ba, [6:55] is it a common practice [6:57] na yung mga chartered flights [6:58] magkakarga [7:00] ng mga vapes [7:01] saka [7:02] karton-karton, [7:03] taandaang kilo [7:04] ng vapes [7:05] at sa [7:05] ng [7:06] cigarettes? [7:07] Or would that [7:09] be considered [7:09] smuggling [7:10] outright? [7:14] Your Honor, [7:15] in that quantity, [7:19] kailangan [7:20] magbabayan siya. [7:22] If say, [7:23] vape. [7:23] Vape per se, [7:24] hindi naman po [7:25] bawal [7:27] for as long as [7:28] you have the [7:28] permits, [7:31] the kaukulang [7:31] permits, [7:32] Your Honor. [7:33] Pero bago [7:34] makarating yung [7:36] aeroplano rito, [7:37] ahead of time, [7:39] diba, [7:39] nagpapain [7:40] ng bill of blading? [7:41] Bill of blading, [7:42] manifest, [7:44] cargo manifest, [7:46] passenger manifest. [7:48] So, [7:48] paano ba [7:48] ang procedure? [7:53] Well, [7:54] Your Honor, [7:54] hindi pa dumating [7:55] talaga yung [7:56] document sa amin, [7:58] but the procedure [7:58] is [7:59] ahead of time [8:02] before the arrival [8:03] na sa amin [8:04] na yung papeles. [8:05] When you say [8:05] ahead of time, [8:06] how many days [8:06] before? [8:10] Especially [8:11] kung we're talking [8:12] about of hundreds [8:12] of kilos, [8:14] we're just [8:14] presuming [8:15] na nagsasabi [8:16] itong totoo. [8:16] Yes. [8:17] Kunyari na lang, [8:18] kung karton-karton [8:20] ang mga vapes [8:20] at sigarilyo [8:21] kuno, [8:22] paano procedure? [8:23] Para na alam nila [8:25] yun pala yung [8:25] procedure [8:26] na dapat sinusunod [8:26] pero hindi [8:27] sinunod. [8:27] Yes, sir. [8:28] Especially [8:28] if the cargo [8:32] goes through [8:33] the ports, [8:35] regular ports. [8:36] No, no. [8:37] Not regular ports. [8:38] Aeroplano pinag-usapan. [8:38] Yeah, ipaprocess po yun. [8:41] 24 hours [8:42] prior to arrival, [8:44] minimum. [8:44] Now, [8:45] my last question [8:46] to you is, [8:47] ito ba [8:48] ay isang [8:49] normal occurrence? [8:51] In case [8:52] na totoo [8:52] yung sinasabi niya, [8:53] meron bang [8:54] nagpaparating [8:54] ng mga vapes [8:55] at karton-karton [8:56] na vapes [8:56] at sigarilyo [8:57] using [8:58] chartered flights? [8:59] As far as [9:00] country call, [9:02] Your Honor, [9:03] wala. [9:04] Wala? [9:04] Wala. [9:05] Okay. [9:06] At alam yan [9:07] ni Sargento [9:10] Aileen [9:10] Aime. [9:12] Nandito ba [9:12] si Director [9:13] of the group? [9:15] And I want [9:15] Colonel [9:16] Joanna [9:17] Sarcelia [9:18] investigated [9:18] as well. [9:20] Kung ako, [9:21] recommendation ko, [9:23] i-anong muna ito, [9:25] i-suspend din muna ito [9:27] for the result [9:30] of the investigation. [9:32] Kasi, [9:33] hindi po ako maniniwala, [9:34] General, [9:35] okay, [9:37] na hindi tumimbre [9:38] ito si Sargento [9:41] sa kanyang biso [9:42] na si Colonel. [9:43] Billionist, [9:43] pinag-usapan natin ito. [9:46] Malamang sa malamang, [9:47] tumimbre ito. [9:48] Lugi siya. [9:49] Siya lang [9:49] mapaparusahan. [9:51] Eh, samantalang [9:52] yung boss niya [9:52] involved dito. [9:53] Most likely. [9:54] Yes, sir. [9:55] We are investigating [9:56] 14 personnel. [9:58] So, [9:59] narilip na ba itong [10:00] si Colonel [10:00] Sarcelia? [10:02] Yes, sir. [10:02] Actually, [10:03] Colonel Sarcelia, [10:04] and the previous [10:05] Abseo chief [10:06] of NCR. [10:08] We are in transition [10:09] nung nangyari ito, sir. [10:10] Ka-assign lang [10:12] ni Colonel Sarcelia [10:13] ng 24. [10:15] And then, [10:16] this happened [10:17] in October 1. [10:19] So, [10:19] we are also [10:20] looking into [10:21] the former [10:22] Abseo chief also. [10:25] Kasama sa 14 [10:26] initially. [10:27] We are including [10:28] yung mga assigned [10:29] sa General Aviation [10:30] station namin, sir. [10:33] So, [10:33] sa lahat sila? [10:34] Yung [10:35] General Aviation [10:36] and yung [10:37] key personnel [10:38] ng [10:38] Abseo [10:40] NCR [10:41] under investigation [10:42] ngayon, sir. [10:43] Very good. [10:43] And dapat [10:44] that's the relief. [10:45] Yes, sir. [10:46] Very good. [10:46] Thank you. [10:46] Thank you for that. [10:47] Pwede natin [10:48] maibalik si Sargento. [10:55] Sargento, [10:55] okay. [10:56] Sargento, [10:56] Sargento, [10:56] salamat po [10:57] sa pasensya. [10:58] Now, [10:59] Sargento, [11:00] was that the first time [11:01] na ikaw [11:02] in-approach [11:03] or nalaman mo [11:04] na may parating [11:05] na aeroplano [11:05] na tulungan mo [11:07] at ang cargo [11:08] ay vape? [11:09] Was that the first time [11:10] o may ilang beses na? [11:13] First time po, [11:14] Mr. Chair. [11:15] First time. [11:17] Nung malaman mo [11:18] na yan [11:19] ay may cargo [11:19] vape [11:20] sa kasabing mga [11:21] sigarilyo, [11:24] ano po palang [11:24] ginawa niyo ulit? [11:26] What did you do? [11:28] Bali po, [11:28] Mr. Chair, [11:29] nung nagpahanap po [11:31] sa akin yung [11:32] kaibigan ko [11:33] ng aircraft. [11:35] Sino po yung [11:35] kaibigan niyo? [11:36] Si Aldren Samante po. [11:39] Aldren Samante? [11:41] Siya po yung [11:42] nagpahanap. [11:42] Maan niyo po [11:43] nakilala si Aldren Samante? [11:45] Mga, [11:47] ano po, [11:47] may mga negosyo po [11:48] siyang [11:49] mga [11:50] alahas po [11:52] yung mga [11:53] sinseng, [11:55] mga iskra po [11:55] yun. [11:56] Nagbebenta po siya. [11:57] Taga saan po [11:59] to sa Aldren Samante? [12:01] May bahay po siya, [12:02] sir, [12:02] sa Cavite [12:03] at saka sa Bulacan. [12:05] Okay. [12:06] Saan po rin siya [12:07] siya galing? [12:09] Yun po ang alam ko po, [12:11] Bulacan at Cavite. [12:12] Sino na pakilala [12:13] sa iyo [12:14] kay Aldren Samante? [12:16] Parang na-meet ko po siya [12:17] sa isang [12:17] gathering po [12:18] sa, [12:19] hindi ko na po [12:20] matandaan [12:20] kung anong [12:21] gathering. [12:23] Ayun po, [12:24] pag po [12:25] nagtatawagan po kami [12:26] pag may [12:27] ibibenta po siya [12:28] na [12:28] ano, [12:30] alahas. [12:31] Okay. [12:32] So nakilala mo siya [12:33] sa isang gathering [12:34] since then [12:35] every now and then [12:37] nakikita kayo, [12:38] nagkakaroon kayo ng [12:39] transaction, [12:40] benta ng alahas. [12:42] Opo, [12:43] Mr. Chair. [12:44] At yung alahas na binibenta [12:45] galing sa abroad, [12:46] pinapasok sa bansa [12:47] tapos ibibenta dito. [12:49] Ganon? [12:50] Di po ganon, [12:51] Mr. Chair. [12:52] Bali po, [12:53] dito lang po sa [12:54] Pilipinas, [12:54] Mr. Chair. [12:55] Dito po niya [12:56] ibibenta sa akin. [12:58] Wala po [12:59] sa ibang bansa na. [13:03] Nabanggit ba sa inyo [13:04] ni Aldrin Samante? [13:07] Siyempre siya [13:07] ang kumausap sa iyo. [13:08] Kung sino rin [13:09] kumausap sa kanya? [13:11] Opo, [13:12] si [13:12] Colonel Rudy [13:14] Isidro po. [13:16] Si [13:16] Colonel [13:17] Isidro? [13:19] Yes po. [13:21] Okay. [13:21] So, [13:22] si Colonel Rudy [13:23] Isidro [13:24] ang kumausap [13:25] kay Samante [13:26] para [13:27] kausapin naman [13:28] ni Samante [13:29] ikaw. [13:30] Opo, [13:30] Mr. Chair. [13:32] Ba't hindi nilang [13:33] dumiretso si [13:33] si [13:34] si [13:34] si [13:35] Colonel Rudy [13:35] Isidro [13:36] sa absicom ba siya? [13:37] O sa [13:38] regular PMP? [13:40] Hindi po, [13:41] Mr. Chair. [13:42] Na-meet ko lang po siya [13:43] nung [13:44] Si Isidro, [13:46] si [13:46] Colonel Isidro. [13:47] Si Colonel Isidro po, [13:49] Mr. Chair, [13:49] na-meet ko po [13:50] nung unang [13:50] pumunta, [13:52] nung binisita po ako [13:53] ni Samante [13:54] nung September 15 po [13:55] dito po sa [13:56] parking be. [13:58] Doon ko lang po siya [13:58] na-meet. [13:59] First time po. [14:00] Sa parking area [14:01] doon kayo nag-meet? [14:02] Opo. [14:03] Okay. [14:03] So, [14:03] dinami-dami lugar [14:04] na pwede kayo mag-meet [14:05] sa opisina, [14:06] sa restaurant, [14:07] sa parking area pa talaga. [14:08] Sa parking area [14:09] kayo nag-meet? [14:12] Doon po sa may [14:13] parking be, [14:14] Mr. Chair, [14:14] meron po kaming [14:15] kubo doon. [14:17] Sa Isang Kubo. [14:18] Okay. [14:19] Opo. [14:20] So, [14:20] paano ka pinakilala [14:21] ni Samante [14:23] kay Colonel Isidro [14:24] sa parking [14:24] sa Kubo? [14:28] Pinakilala lang po niya [14:29] sa akin na si [14:30] Colonel Isidro po. [14:32] Yun po. [14:33] Out of respect po. [14:37] Dahil po [14:37] Colonel po [14:38] yung pakilala niya. [14:41] Hindi ko naman po siya [14:42] hiningan po [14:42] ng kahit anong [14:43] identification. [14:45] So, [14:45] walang occasion. [14:46] Basta po namang [14:48] sinabi sa'yo, [14:49] may papakilala [14:50] ako sa'yo [14:50] si Colonel Isidro. [14:53] Sa pagkakala mo [14:54] sa'yo naka-assign [14:54] si Colonel Isidro? [14:58] Hindi ko po alam [15:00] kung saan po siya [15:00] naka-assign. [15:02] Okay. [15:02] PNP? [15:03] No po. [15:05] Sandali po. [15:05] PNP? [15:06] Okay. [15:07] Kasama ba sa inibistigan niyo [15:09] din si Colonel Rudy Isidro? [15:10] Yes, sir. [15:11] Identified siya [15:12] as auxiliary [15:13] ng cost guard po, sir. [15:15] Auxiliary ng [15:16] cost guard, sir. [15:18] What does it mean [15:18] auxiliary ng cost plus? [15:20] So, [15:20] hindi siya talagang [15:21] organic [15:21] ka-PNP member? [15:24] Coast guard siya, sir. [15:25] Ano pa? [15:25] Coast guard po siya, sir. [15:27] Ah, [15:27] coast guard? [15:27] Yes, sir. [15:30] Ah, [15:30] hindi siya auxiliary, sir. [15:31] Yes, sir. [15:32] Andito ba yung [15:33] cost guard? [15:35] Okay. [15:36] Yeah. [15:37] Sir, [15:38] Commodore Tobilia, sir. [15:39] Commodore Tobilia. [15:41] So, [15:41] itong Rudy Isidro [15:42] auxiliary niyo [15:43] sa cost guard. [15:44] We'll check on that, sir. [15:45] Ngayon ko lang din narinig, sir. [15:46] We'll [15:47] inform the [15:49] appropriate unit namin [15:51] to validate [15:51] yung background niya, sir. [15:53] Wala ba kayong [15:54] ginagawa ng investigation [15:55] bago niyo [15:56] payagan na maging [15:57] auxiliary member [15:58] ang [15:58] anybody [16:00] from the civilian [16:01] going to [16:02] Coast Guard? [16:02] May mga clearances [16:03] sensor na sinasubmit, sir. [16:05] Ano ka, [16:05] investiga? [16:06] Okay, [16:08] si IDG, [16:11] anong trabaho [16:12] nitong si Rudy [16:13] Isidro [16:14] sa inyong ginagawa [16:16] investigation? [16:17] And who is [16:18] connected to? [16:19] Per [16:20] our investigation, sir, [16:25] connected po siya [16:26] sa [16:26] Coast Guard [16:27] as auxiliary. [16:28] Yes, sir. [16:29] Of course, [16:30] mayroon tong [16:30] outside Coast Guard [16:31] kasi, [16:32] auxiliary na siya. [16:33] May trabaho to. [16:36] Di ko lang [16:36] ma-recall yung [16:38] kasi matanda na to, sir, [16:40] 70, [16:41] almost 70. [16:42] Where is he from? [16:45] Based doon sa [16:46] affidavit [16:48] na [16:48] sinabit niya, sir, [16:51] based doon sa [16:51] investigation namin, [16:53] kausap na ito, [16:54] si Rimbang [16:55] talaga, sir, [16:57] yung [16:57] yung [16:59] POI [17:00] natin dito [17:01] sa [17:01] law case. [17:03] Siya yung [17:04] direct na [17:04] kausap ni [17:05] Rimbang. [17:07] Okay. [17:07] Ganon din ba [17:08] kayo, [17:08] PDEA, [17:09] yung sa inyong [17:09] investigation? [17:11] Sorry, sir. [17:13] Microphone na po, sir. [17:15] Yes, sir. [17:16] Actually, [17:16] just yesterday, [17:18] the PNP [17:18] and the PDEA [17:19] conducted [17:20] a [17:21] joint investigation [17:23] with regard to [17:24] this matter [17:24] and [17:25] we're just [17:26] confirming [17:27] everything, sir, [17:28] and [17:28] from the [17:30] documents [17:31] to be [17:31] submitted, [17:33] the [17:33] case [17:34] to be [17:34] filed [17:34] will be [17:35] Nasama itong [17:37] si Isidro [17:38] na papile [17:38] ng case? [17:39] No, [17:40] it's still [17:40] a subject [17:41] for [17:41] further [17:42] investigations, [17:43] sir. [17:44] But [17:44] napadaham [17:45] ba ito [17:50] ng [17:50] sabina, [17:51] Colonel? [17:53] Yes, sir. [17:54] Nag-appear na po [17:54] siya sa [17:55] CIDG, sir. [17:56] Ano po yung [17:56] sinabi niya [17:57] sa pag-appear [17:58] niya? [18:11] Ano yung [18:11] binigay niya [18:12] yung statement [18:12] sa inyo [18:13] tungkol sa [18:15] kanyang [18:15] participation? [18:18] Yes, sir. [18:20] Yung panganyang [18:20] pangalan yung [18:21] nadawit? [18:22] Ano, sir. [18:23] Nanarrate niya, sir, [18:24] yung participation niya [18:25] kung paano yung [18:27] nakausap niya [18:29] or yung [18:31] communication nila [18:32] with [18:32] PEMS Mendoza [18:34] and [18:36] kung paano yung [18:37] sino yung [18:38] nagpahanap [18:40] sa kanya [18:40] ng chartered [18:41] flight. [18:43] So, [18:44] inamin itong [18:44] si Isidro [18:45] na mayroong [18:46] magkakaroon [18:47] ng illegal [18:47] transaction? [18:49] With [18:49] regards [18:50] sa chartered [18:50] flight, sir, [18:51] and yung [18:52] importation [18:53] ng vape [18:54] products. [18:57] Pero walang [18:57] na-mention [18:58] na illegal [18:58] drugs, sir. [18:59] So, [18:59] kumbaga [18:59] misdeclaration [19:00] ang gagawin [19:01] sana nila? [19:02] Yes, sir. [19:04] Pero sino [19:04] sa tingin nyo [19:05] nakakaalam talaga [19:06] na droga yun [19:07] at hindi vape? [19:08] Siyempre siguro [19:08] si Rimbang. [19:10] So, [19:10] that is part of [19:10] your investigation? [19:11] Yes, sir. [19:12] Yes, sir. [19:12] Okay. [19:13] Now, [19:14] konti na lang, [19:15] sarahenta, [19:16] pasensya ka na. [19:16] Salamat sa [19:17] patients. [19:19] How many [19:22] times have [19:22] you been [19:23] contacted [19:24] by Aldrin [19:25] Samantha [19:26] para mag-facilitate [19:28] ng mga [19:29] paparating [19:30] ng chartered [19:30] flights? [19:35] As per [19:35] sa kanya? [19:38] Apo, [19:39] ako po. [19:42] Mr. [19:42] Chair, [19:43] as per [19:43] po sa kanya, [19:44] bago po [19:45] niya, sir, [19:45] ako nakausap [19:46] nung time [19:47] na yun, [19:48] may mga [19:48] nauna na po [19:49] silang [19:49] kausap [19:50] ni [19:50] Colonel [19:50] Isidro [19:51] na [19:51] naghanap [19:53] na po [19:53] talaga sila [19:54] ng [19:54] chartered [19:56] private jet [19:57] po. [19:57] So, [19:59] dahil [20:00] hindi po sila [20:00] nakakita [20:01] ng [20:02] chartered [20:04] flight, [20:04] so, [20:05] ako na po [20:05] yung [20:05] kinausap [20:06] niya [20:06] regarding [20:07] dyan, [20:08] and then [20:08] yung [20:09] nakita ko [20:09] nga po [20:10] yung [20:10] ALS [20:11] na [20:11] pag-aari [20:12] po [20:12] ni [20:13] Captain [20:13] Toledo [20:14] po. [20:16] Okay. [20:17] Ang tanong [20:17] ko lang [20:17] sa [20:18] bakit [20:19] yung [20:20] katulad [20:21] ni [20:21] Sargento [20:22] sa [20:22] ABSECOM [20:23] nakakagawa [20:24] siya [20:24] ng paraan [20:25] para [20:25] mag-facilitate [20:26] kung baga [20:27] nagkialam [20:27] siya [20:28] sa [20:28] flight plan, [20:29] sa [20:30] pagdating [20:32] ng mga [20:32] chartered [20:32] flights. [20:34] Mr. [20:35] Chair, [20:36] hindi po [20:36] namin [20:37] alam [20:37] yung [20:38] transactions [20:38] ni [20:39] PEMS [20:40] Mendoza, [20:40] hindi po [20:41] siya [20:41] officially [20:41] lumabas [20:42] dun sa [20:42] mga [20:42] records [20:43] namin, [20:43] even [20:43] yung [20:44] binanggit [20:44] niya [20:44] po [20:45] na [20:45] ALS, [20:46] hindi [20:46] po [20:46] siya [20:47] lumabas [20:47] dun sa [20:47] mga [20:47] application [20:48] ng [20:48] permits, [20:49] Mr. [20:49] Pero [20:49] Sargento, [20:51] ano sana [20:52] ang maging [20:52] participation [20:53] mo? [20:53] Halimbawa, [20:54] nabigyan ng [20:56] clearance dun sa [20:57] laos at [20:57] hindi [20:58] naharang. [20:59] Pagdating [20:59] dito [21:00] nung [21:01] aeroplano [21:02] sa [21:03] naiawan, [21:04] ano sana [21:05] ang maging [21:05] participation [21:05] mo? [21:07] Mr. [21:08] Chair, [21:08] baliwala na [21:09] po akong [21:09] participation [21:10] dun. [21:11] So, [21:11] ang pagka [21:12] payment po [21:14] dito [21:14] kay ALS [21:15] po, [21:15] kay [21:15] Captain [21:16] Toledo, [21:17] nung [21:17] nagbigay [21:18] po siya [21:18] sa akin [21:19] ng [21:19] kontrata [21:20] na ang [21:20] lipad [21:21] ay [21:21] September [21:22] 30 [21:22] at [21:23] nang [21:24] sinabi [21:24] niya [21:24] po na [21:24] canceled [21:25] po [21:25] yung [21:25] flight [21:26] to [21:27] reschedule [21:27] to [21:28] October [21:28] 3, [21:29] yun [21:29] lang [21:29] po. [21:30] Yung [21:30] iba [21:30] pong [21:30] mga [21:31] sinasabi [21:32] po [21:32] na [21:32] facilitation [21:33] CIQS, [21:35] wala [21:35] po [21:35] akong [21:36] participation [21:37] dun [21:37] at [21:37] hindi [21:38] po [21:38] ako [21:38] pwedeng [21:39] makialam [21:39] sa [21:40] gawain [21:41] po [21:41] nila. [21:42] Kaya [21:42] nga, [21:42] kunyari [21:43] hindi [21:43] na [21:43] cancel. [21:45] normally [21:45] ano yung [21:46] proseso? [21:47] Ano yung [21:47] gagawin mo? [21:49] Wala po [21:49] Mr. Chair. [21:51] So ano [21:51] lang talaga [21:52] ginawa mo? [21:53] Paano yung [21:54] participation mo? [21:55] Paano yung [21:55] facilitation [21:56] na ginagawa mo? [21:56] Hanggang [21:57] saan? [21:58] Naghanap [21:59] lang po [21:59] ako [21:59] ng [21:59] aeroplano [22:00] and [22:00] nung [22:01] nakahanap [22:02] na po [22:02] ako [22:02] ng [22:02] aircraft [22:03] nabigay [22:04] na po [22:04] sa akin [22:05] yung [22:06] kontrata [22:06] po [22:07] ni [22:08] ALS [22:09] po. [22:10] Binigay [22:10] ko po [22:10] yun [22:10] kay [22:11] Samante [22:12] at [22:12] saka [22:12] Colonel [22:12] Isidro [22:13] hanggang [22:14] doon [22:14] lang [22:14] na po [22:15] yung [22:15] aking [22:15] transaction [22:16] so yung [22:17] mga [22:17] susunod po [22:18] wala na po [22:19] akong [22:19] transaction [22:19] Pero is it [22:20] normal [22:20] practice [22:21] para sa [22:21] mga [22:21] taga-abcicom [22:22] na tagahanap [22:23] ng aircraft [22:24] para [22:27] gamitin [22:28] chartered [22:28] flight? [22:29] Hindi po [22:30] Mr. Chair. [22:31] So irregular [22:32] yan? [22:33] Wala pong [22:34] ganun. [22:34] Nagkataon [22:35] lang po [22:35] na [22:36] nagpahanap [22:37] po siya [22:37] nagtanong [22:38] tanong [22:38] po [22:38] ako [22:39] yun [22:40] po [22:40] kaya [22:42] po [22:42] nakahanap [22:43] po [22:43] ako [22:43] Pero [22:44] after [22:46] makahanap [22:47] meron [22:48] mga taga-abcicom [22:49] na nagsasalubong [22:50] sa mga [22:50] aeroplano? [22:53] Diyan po [22:54] sa pagsalubong [22:55] po [22:55] Mr. Chair [22:57] Bali po [22:58] kung [22:58] sa pagkakaintindi [23:01] ko po [23:01] dapat po [23:02] yan [23:03] may [23:03] flight [23:03] manifest [23:04] po [23:04] yan [23:05] na [23:05] galing [23:06] po [23:06] sa [23:06] kung [23:07] sino [23:08] po [23:08] yung [23:08] ground [23:08] handler [23:09] po [23:09] and [23:10] then [23:10] doon [23:11] lang [23:11] po [23:11] siya [23:11] mag-check [23:12] ang [23:12] aviation [23:14] security [23:14] group [23:15] po. [23:15] Okay. [23:17] Ka-ap [23:17] pinapayagan pa [23:18] rin ba [23:19] ang mga [23:20] private [23:21] vehicles [23:21] na [23:22] pumasok [23:23] sa [23:23] tarmac [23:23] para [23:23] sunduin [23:24] yung [23:24] mga [23:25] VIPs [23:26] na [23:26] pasahero [23:27] ng mga [23:27] chartered [23:27] flights [23:28] especially [23:28] from [23:28] abroad? [23:29] Is that [23:29] being allowed [23:30] still? [23:30] Sa [23:30] ka-ap [23:30] operated [23:31] sa [23:34] NNIAC [23:37] meron bang [23:38] representative? [23:44] Magandang [23:45] umaga po [23:45] is it being [23:46] allowed? [23:49] Maaalaw lang [23:50] yun sir [23:50] pagka [23:51] may [23:51] coordination [23:52] and [23:52] endorsement [23:53] from [23:53] the [23:54] hangar [23:54] subject [23:55] to [23:55] applicable [23:56] security [23:57] protocols [23:58] po. [23:58] I'm telling [23:58] right now [23:59] do not [23:59] do not [24:00] allow [24:01] that [24:01] anymore [24:02] period. [24:03] Anong pinakaiba [24:04] nila sa [24:04] mga [24:05] regular [24:05] commercial [24:06] passengers? [24:07] Punyete [24:08] mga yan. [24:08] Hindi [24:09] na [24:10] kasi [24:10] I'll tell [24:11] you [24:12] why [24:12] papasok [24:13] yung [24:13] kanilang [24:13] sasakyan [24:14] sa [24:14] tarmac [24:15] hindi [24:15] naman sila [24:16] kinakapkapan [24:16] ba sila? [24:18] Hindi [24:18] naman [24:19] pag [24:19] dumating [24:20] walang [24:21] kapkapan [24:22] nangyayari [24:22] parang [24:23] katulad [24:23] sa mga [24:24] regular [24:24] commercial [24:24] flights [24:25] hindi [24:26] na [24:26] kinakapkapan [24:28] yan. [24:31] So [24:31] kung [24:32] yung [24:32] isang [24:32] VIP [24:33] passenger [24:34] naglagay [24:36] in his [24:36] or her [24:37] possession [24:37] sa jacket [24:38] niya [24:38] coat [24:39] ng [24:39] kung [24:39] ano [24:40] na [24:40] dyan [24:40] droga [24:40] man [24:41] yan [24:41] or [24:41] whatever [24:42] kontrabando [24:42] is [24:43] lusot [24:44] na siya [24:45] dahil [24:45] agad [24:45] agad [24:46] sasakay [24:46] siya [24:47] sa [24:47] sasakyan [24:48] na [24:48] nagsusundo [24:49] sa kanya [24:50] or [24:51] sasakyan [24:51] at the [24:53] same [24:53] manner [24:54] sasakyan [24:57] na [24:57] papasok [24:58] di ba [24:59] kapag [24:59] yung [25:00] sasakyan [25:00] ng [25:00] VIP [25:01] pwede [25:02] ipapasok [25:03] sa [25:03] tarmac [25:03] ng [25:04] naia [25:05] sa [25:05] naia [25:05] 1 [25:06] 2 [25:07] 3 [25:07] Mr. [25:08] Chair [25:09] pag [25:09] meron [25:10] lang pong [25:10] approval [25:11] may [25:11] access [25:11] pass [25:11] po sila [25:12] meron [25:12] po tayong [25:12] access [25:13] control [25:14] measures [25:14] and [25:15] at the [25:15] same [25:15] time [25:15] sir [25:15] yung [25:16] vehicle [25:16] and [25:17] personal [25:17] access [25:18] po [25:18] natin [25:18] is [25:18] in [25:18] place [25:19] then [25:19] I [25:19] want [25:19] it [25:19] cut [25:20] I [25:20] want [25:20] it [25:20] stop [25:21] kung [25:21] ano [25:21] yung [25:21] treatment [25:22] sa mga [25:23] regular [25:23] commercial [25:23] passengers [25:24] ganun din [25:24] i-treatment [25:25] ibigay natin [25:25] sa kanila [25:26] wag [25:27] nang papasukin [25:27] yung [25:27] sasakyan [25:28] nila [25:28] hanggang [25:28] sa [25:29] tarmac [25:29] tapos [25:29] akit [25:29] sila [25:30] sa [25:30] aeroplano [25:30] heck [25:31] no [25:31] kasi [25:32] madali [25:33] lang [25:34] kumuha [25:34] ng [25:34] permit [25:34] napapayagan [25:35] sila [25:36] edi [25:36] pag [25:36] pumasok [25:37] sila [25:37] so [25:37] ibig [25:37] sabihin [25:37] hindi [25:37] na [25:38] sila [25:38] dadaan [25:38] sa [25:38] processing [25:39] Mr. [25:41] Chair [25:41] dadaan [25:41] po [25:41] meron [25:42] po [25:42] tayong [25:42] screening [25:43] and [25:44] airport [25:45] access [25:45] control [25:46] sir [25:46] there [25:47] are [25:47] only [25:47] a few [25:48] persons [25:48] that [25:49] is [25:49] exempted [25:50] for [25:50] the [25:50] screening [25:51] but [25:52] the [25:52] VIP [25:52] sir [25:53] who [25:53] are [25:54] these [25:54] persons [25:54] exempted [25:55] for [25:55] example [25:56] sir [25:56] based [25:56] on [25:56] the [25:57] security [25:57] program [25:57] is [25:58] the [25:58] president [25:58] of [25:58] the [25:59] Philippines [25:59] of [25:59] course [26:00] yes [26:00] sir [26:00] the [26:00] vice [26:00] president [26:01] and [26:01] the [26:02] spouse [26:02] of [26:03] course [26:03] the [26:03] of [26:03] course [26:04] the [26:04] president [26:05] also [26:05] po [26:05] ok [26:06] pero [26:09] nasa [26:10] ang [26:10] processing [26:10] center [26:11] meron [26:14] po [26:14] tayong [26:14] access [26:14] and [26:15] screening [26:15] control [26:16] gates [26:16] kung [26:17] doon [26:17] po [26:17] sila [26:17] dadaan [26:18] sir [26:18] we [26:19] have [26:19] on [26:20] Delta [26:20] gates [26:20] located [26:21] at [26:21] domestic [26:22] road [26:22] po [26:22] so [26:23] lahat [26:24] po [26:24] nang [26:24] dumadaan [26:25] po [26:25] sir [26:25] personnel [26:26] and [26:26] vehicle [26:26] regardless [26:28] of [26:28] the [26:29] identity [26:30] of [26:30] the [26:30] person [26:30] they [26:30] are [26:31] undergoing [26:31] access [26:32] control [26:32] and [26:32] screening [26:32] measures [26:33] po [26:33] no [26:34] wait a [26:34] minute [26:34] so [26:34] yung isang [26:35] private [26:37] vehicle [26:38] na sakay [26:39] ang [26:39] BIP [26:40] pasahero [26:41] ng [26:41] charter [26:42] flights [26:42] so [26:43] pwedeng [26:44] dumiretso [26:44] na sila [26:45] sa [26:45] tarmac [26:45] at [26:47] sa [26:48] sampan [26:48] sir [26:48] plano [26:48] so [26:48] hindi [26:48] na sila [26:49] kailangan [26:49] dumaan [26:49] sa [26:49] processing [26:50] center [26:50] no [26:52] sir [26:52] yung [26:52] mga [26:53] sasalubong [26:53] lang [26:53] po [26:54] kung [26:54] papasok [26:55] po [26:55] sila [26:55] sir [26:55] and [26:56] then [26:56] meron [26:56] po [26:56] silang [26:57] approved [26:57] kung [26:57] approved [26:58] po [26:58] ito [26:58] Mr. [26:59] Chair [26:59] dadaan [27:00] po [27:00] sila [27:01] ng [27:01] airport [27:02] access [27:02] control [27:03] and [27:09] ganito [27:09] na lang [27:10] Mr. [27:12] De Castro [27:12] ang [27:13] suggestion [27:13] ko [27:14] pare-pare [27:15] yung [27:15] treatment [27:15] ko [27:15] anong [27:16] treatment [27:16] nyo [27:16] sa mga [27:16] commercial [27:17] passengers [27:17] ganoon [27:18] din sa [27:18] kanila [27:18] except [27:18] na [27:19] of course [27:19] sabi nyo [27:19] presidente [27:20] vice [27:20] president [27:21] of course [27:22] wala tayong [27:22] problema [27:22] doon [27:23] na [27:24] hindi [27:26] na pwede [27:26] pumasok [27:26] ang [27:27] kailangan [27:27] sasakyan [27:27] diba [27:30] so [27:32] dadaan [27:32] sila [27:32] sa [27:33] proseso [27:33] sa [27:33] screening [27:34] kasi [27:34] meron [27:34] mga [27:34] screening [27:35] diba [27:35] sa [27:35] terminal [27:36] 3 [27:36] at [27:36] banda [27:37] yan [27:37] in [27:38] all [27:38] terminals [27:38] para [27:40] doon [27:40] sa [27:41] chartered [27:42] flights [27:42] ng [27:42] mga [27:42] passengers [27:43] right [27:43] and [27:44] then [27:44] sila [27:45] magbayad [27:45] once [27:46] na [27:46] inspect [27:47] na [27:47] sila [27:47] maglagay [27:49] kaya [27:49] dyan [27:49] ng [27:49] sasakyan [27:51] na magta [27:52] transport [27:52] sila [27:52] sa kanila [27:53] papunta [27:53] ng [27:54] kanilang [27:55] aeroplano [27:56] diba [27:57] sila [27:58] magbayad [27:59] noon [27:59] in the [28:00] same [28:01] manner [28:01] pag [28:01] dumating [28:02] sila [28:02] yun [28:03] yung [28:03] sasakyan [28:04] nila [28:04] hatid [28:05] sila [28:05] hanggang [28:05] sa [28:06] arrival [28:07] wag [28:08] na [28:08] sinusundo [28:08] sila [28:09] mismo [28:09] sa [28:09] tarmac [28:10] okay [28:14] tayo [28:14] dyan [28:14] thank you [28:17] very [28:18] much