- Senator Alan Peter Cayetano press conference - Replay — GMA News

[0:00] job but they have a full-time job sa mga indigents at saka marginalized society and the other thing [0:07] is napakagaling na natin sa relief as long as we have the access to the area pero mahina tayo [0:15] sa rehabilitation. So ang nangyayari as soon as for example napakalaking sunog dito sa Manila [0:23] but nangyayari ito sa Mindanao so attention natin ay na sa Mindanao which is right and good [0:29] but dapat may mag-take over ng grupo para yung rehabilitation dun sa mga nasunugan. So let's admit to ourselves that we will have [0:37] what's the right number 12 to 15 storms a year. We have volcanoes that are active then earthquakes or linugs are [0:52] organic if I can use that word to our area in the world. So we really have to do better in [1:01] not only the response and relief but in the rehabilitation. I'd like to let you know where [1:09] we are today. So all sides were saying sana hindi maipit yung Senado. So early this morning or late last night I sent a [1:20] letter to our legitimate Secretary of the Senate. Legitimate because if you follow the rules hindi siya pwedeng [1:29] tanggalin kung walang 13 at hindi pwedeng palitan kung wala rin 13. So I'll make that clear ha. Senate President [1:36] Pro Temp, Senate President, Secretary of the Senate, OSA, kailangan niyan 13 ang botong ilagay, 13 ang boto pag tinanggal. [1:47] Hindi nila sinunod yan. So meaning hindi legitimate si Atty. Bantug. So having said that, ayaw namin maipit yung mga empleyado. [1:58] So I sent him a letter to talk with Atty. Bantug and nag-offer kami kung gusto ni Sen. Wynn, pareho na lang kami [2:07] pipirma kahit walang designation. So I think the letter was delivered mga 8 a.m., a little bit past 8. [2:18] Ang sagot nila nung 12 o'clock is that hindi na siya Secretary at mag-turnover na lang. So I really want to avoid sa dami ng problema [2:25] ng ating bansa that we have to write land bank, maipit yung sweldo ng mga empleyado and everything. [2:32] And I'll never bend the law nor will I bend the Constitution. But I will bend backward for our employees [2:41] para hindi sila maipit sa gulo for as long as it doesn't bend the law. [2:49] So kung internal rules or regulation that is not attached to law or it is not morally wrong. [2:55] That's why I thought of the, my staff thought of the idea na pag pareho nakapirma [3:01] para eventually pag nagkaroon ng decision, walang legal infirmity. [3:05] And it will also prevent yung magfailan yung dalawang kampo ng usurpation, di ba? [3:14] Kasi of course, as far as I'm concerned, nag-usurp ng authority si Senator Wynn [3:20] because he's not really the acting president pa baba. [3:24] Pero maraming ang problema ng ating bansa, why don't we focus on that? [3:28] So apparently, because ayaw nyo pumayag, dalawa Senado natin ngayon. [3:33] You have the Senate of the Philippines and you have the Senate of Malacanang. [3:37] So yung Senate of Malacanang had a hearing kanina and you have two Blue Ribbons Committee. [3:44] Yung isa ay Committee de Absuelto na ang kanyang main work is paano i-absuelto yung mga high officials ng ating bansa [3:53] at yung isa naman na seeking the truth. [3:56] So am I saying lahat ng sabihin ng labing walong ex-marines ay completely true? No. [4:01] What I'm saying is nga, give them a chance. I heard they have other evidence including videos. [4:06] I heard that if they come out and there's full support na nararundaman, [4:13] may iba pang mga witnesses na may mga dokumento, may mga ebidensya na lalabas din. [4:19] So as a nation, we have to decide whether the Senate will be under the thumb of Malacanang [4:26] and now that it is very clear to us that the biggest ever corruption scandal is the flood control scandal, [4:37] if it's acceptable to us that we witnessed this morning the biggest cover up committee hearing of our generation. [4:46] So ganoon lang kasimple yun. [4:49] So in the same manner na nag-propose kami na parehong pipirma, [4:53] I have not talked to Senator Marcoleta, [4:56] so hindi ko alam kung papayag siyang dalawa silang chairman or whatever, [5:00] but we have to find a solution that yung mga witnesses ay makakapunta ng malaya na protectado ng batas at independent yung Senate. [5:11] Having said that, mahaba panahon, as I said kanina, let's focus on Mindanao and on the relief and rehabilitation, [5:21] especially kung may mga lives that are at stake now because dun sa mga buildings, [5:28] I don't think all of us fully know the extent so far, nakikita lang natin yung mga videos. [5:35] So hanggang dun lang muna, we will continue with our meetings, we will focus muna on Mindanao. [5:42] So I am not sure when the next hearing ng Blue Ribbon led by the subcommittee by Senator Marcoleta is, [5:51] I'm expecting to know soon. [5:54] But definitely knowing what's happening in Mindanao will have an impact on our decision. [6:00] Kasi priority yun. [6:01] Presidents from Janice Coucho, Tatooine Piner. [6:05] Sir, yung comment nyo sa resign call sa inyo, [6:14] Sabi po ng Malacanang kanina, open si BBM na magpatawag ng special session ng Congress. [6:21] Lalo na po, nabangit nyo na rin yung nangyari sa Mindanao kanina. [6:25] And paano po yun kung magkakaroon ng special Congress? [6:28] Punahin ko yung special session, okay? [6:30] Yes po. [6:31] So I had two communications with them sa Malacanang. [6:35] In both cases, sinabi nila sa akin, hindi pa handa yung mga bills na gusto nilang ipapasa para dun sa uplift. [6:42] So biglang nung nagpalit ang majority, biglang kailangan ng special session dahil may bills na. [6:50] Actually, kung may official silang bills, dapat na-file na yun para na-refer na sa committee. [6:56] So sabi nila, inaayos pa nila. [6:58] But having said that, kung biglang nilang naayos from the time I had discussions with them, may ledak, pinuspone nila the day before, tinawagan ako ng secretary na head. [7:13] And then sabi niya, sir, pwede ba ituloy buka? Sabi ko, kayo nagpostpone, ready ako. [7:17] Tapos hindi rin naman nila tinuloy. [7:19] Yung sinasabing magtrabaho tayo, nagtatrabaho kami, ready kami magtrabaho. [7:24] Sila nag walk out, kaya nagkaroon din kami ng parliamentary tool na ginamit. [7:30] Sinasabi ni Sen. Lacson paulit-ulit, and I feel bad for the generals, and I apologize in behalf of the whole Senate, both the majority and minority. [7:41] But nakita nyo naman, after nila kinonvene illegally ang session, ano bang ginawa nila? [7:48] Nag-adjourn sila si LID. [7:51] Ang calendar natin pwede pa hanggang Friday. [7:54] Hindi naman nila tinuloy yung session ng Thursday-Friday, sasabi nila mga gusto nilang ipase. [7:58] So ang problema natin sa kabila ay double standard. Iba ang sinasabi, iba ang ginagawa. [8:04] So doon naman sa nananawagan na mag-resign, as I said, pag-usapan nalang natin na a few days after yung focus tayo sa Mindanao, [8:11] but especially yung mga former presidents, yung mga nagkampi-kampi ng mga Marcos na rin, [8:17] papasalamat ako sa inyo sa call nyo na mag-resign ako bilang Senate President. [8:23] Kasi ibig sabihin, nire-recognize nyo pa rin ako as Senate President. [8:27] Kasi kung hindi nyo na ako nire-recognize as Senate President, ba't kayo nananawagan na mag-resign ako as Senate President? [8:35] Kasi kung hindi nang malaka niya itong nangyari sa Mindanao? [8:41] Any special session that will redound to the good of the Filipino people is welcome. [8:48] The special session is in the Constitution. [8:51] Yung ginawa namin nung bago matapos yung bago mag-sinedirin is precisely because aagawin nila yung committees [9:00] at kailangan matuloy yung hearing tungkol sa Blue Ribbon. [9:04] Having said that, Mindanao is now. [9:08] Diba? They need the attention now. [9:10] So if there's needed legislation, good. [9:13] We will meet right away. [9:15] If not, then tulong-tulong tayo. [9:17] But aside from that, let's remember that the committees can continue to work. [9:23] Nung pina-uwi ni Senator Wynne nung Thursday, yung mga empleyado, may Senate hearing pa si Senator Pia. [9:32] So hindi totoo na hindi nagtatrabaho. [9:34] Wala tayong dapat conflict kung may kailangan yung ating bansa. [9:37] Whether it's legislation, whether it's a meeting na LEDAC. [9:41] Dapat tanggalin ng politika pagdating na ng, you know, I say politika but it's an issue of graph and corruption. [9:48] But what I meant is that it's a political issue vis-a-vis a more urgent. [9:53] They're both important but what's more urgent? [9:55] You can postpone a hearing. [9:57] You cannot postpone a rescue mission. [10:00] You cannot postpone yung paghatid ng mga relief. [10:03] Diba? [10:04] And then yun nga, hindi natin nararamdaman pa ng gusto. [10:09] Pero the economic crisis is here. [10:11] And every month until the end of the year, it will get much worse before it gets better. [10:16] Because nga tuloy-tuloy ang problema sa Middle East. [10:19] Diba? [10:20] So maraming tinatamaan dyan. [10:22] Supply chain, presyo ng dollar sa peso, presyo ng diesel at ng gasolina. [10:28] Kakulangan ng fertilizer, taas ng presyo ng fertilizer. [10:32] Desisyon ng Vietnam at saka ng... [10:39] Desisyon muna ng India kung bibigyan tayo ng magbebenta ng fertilizer. [10:43] Desisyon ng India at saka ng Vietnam kung magbebenta ng bigas o hindi. [10:48] Desisyon ng Indonesia whether mag-export sila ng coal o hindi. [10:52] Kasi all of these are, kung baga sa relo, are moving parts na walang makakahula o makakapredict. [11:01] So in that sense, kailangang magtulong-tulong talaga yung ating bansa. [11:05] Kaya naman, nandung pa rin on the plate yung graph and corruption. [11:08] Kasi kahit anong plano natin sa economic crisis, kung ninanakaw pa rin yung pera, [11:13] then mahirapan pa rin tayo lahat. [11:16] Sino po ang presiding officer sa impeachment trial at may update po ba kayo sa... [11:28] As soon as they have 13, walang problema sila na. [11:31] Okay, so I have to assert because may pinaglalaban tayo. [11:35] Pinaglalaban po hindi yung si Alang Cayetano ang Senate President. [11:38] Ang pinaglalaban natin, ang Senado hindi pwedeng rubber stamp ng Malacanang. [11:44] Hindi pwede na hindi independent yung Senate. [11:47] Hindi pwedeng may hearing kakatulad kanina. [11:49] Yung bibig na bumubukas ay Senador, pero yung lumalabas na salita galing sa Malacanang. [11:56] Ano pong rules sa pagpili ng presiding officer sa impeachment? [11:59] They illegally amended the rules. [12:02] They illegally had a session. [12:05] So in due time, there'll have to be something that will decide. [12:11] Diba? [12:12] But in the same manner na ina-assert ni Sen. Win, [12:14] na he's the acting Senate President kahit na walang legal basis whatsoever, [12:22] I have to assert. [12:23] Not for myself, but for the truth and for the Constitution. [12:27] But it's still one month eh. [12:29] Diba? [12:30] At hindi kami nakikipag-agawan sa silya doon. [12:33] So for example, yung Senate Secretary, [12:36] dapat siya yung ngayon nag-aayos para dyan sa pre-trial. [12:42] But nagta-take over sila, Atty. Bantog. [12:44] So we're doing it very patiently. [12:48] Because nga, we don't want the whole Senate to be affected. [12:51] Paano po yun? [12:52] Kanina si House Secretary General Shaloy Garafil, [12:55] nagpasa siya ng manifestation ng House prosecution team [12:58] kay Secretary Bantog, [12:59] pero hindi niyo po siya kinikinalang Sec. Gen. [13:01] Yes. [13:02] Pero ang House prosecution team, [13:03] si Sec. Gen Bantog daw kinikinalang. [13:05] That's gonna be a problem for at least a few days, [13:07] maybe a few weeks, [13:08] because we don't expect naman the Supreme Court to rule right away. [13:13] But what's the best proof that Malacanang's hand is in this? [13:17] O, first, yung pananakot nila sa mga member namin na lumipat, [13:22] yung offer na wala ng kaso pag lumipat. [13:25] O, second, as soon as nila ginawa, [13:28] naglabas sila na ang House at ang Malacanang ay doon pumapabor. [13:32] O, diba? [13:33] Pwede naman mag-neutral ang Malacanang eh. [13:35] Pwede naman sabihin ng Malacanang na settle it among yourself. [13:39] Ganon din sa House prosecution. [13:40] Hindi naman nila gusto ng fair na impeachment. [13:43] Gusto nila yung may pinipili na silang grupo. [13:47] That's why sabi ko sa inyo, [13:48] if I'm wrong, [13:50] they blame me. [13:52] Eh kung tama ako, [13:53] na from 24, [13:55] gagawin 22, [13:56] eventually 18 ang senador, [13:58] tapos sasabihin na 12 convicted na. [14:00] Will that be a fair impeachment process? [14:03] What will happen to the country if that happens? [14:05] Then ang kasunod naman is conas. [14:07] So, give me a few days, [14:09] pag-usapan natin yan, [14:10] but let's focus lang dun sa nangyayari. [14:12] But just to answer your question, [14:14] it will be up in the air. [14:16] That will be a legal question [14:19] and we are in the right side. [14:21] Okay, last question. [14:24] May we be clarified? [14:26] Yung arrangement na inaalok nyo po kay Sen. Wyn, [14:30] na dalawa kayong pipirma, [14:32] ano po ang response si Sen. Wyn? [14:34] As sulat around 12 o'clock, [14:36] na sinasabi kay Atty. [14:39] Sa ating Sen. Secretary Jose Luis Montales, [14:45] that you are no longer Secretary, [14:48] and that Atty. Bantug, [14:50] and then that, [14:52] basically sinasabi na sila na. [14:55] Yun din ang sinabi sa USA, [14:57] but hindi first-hand knowledge, [14:59] sabit chain of command. [15:00] But wala nga sila sa chain of command. [15:02] Kahit anong tingin mo sa rules, [15:05] hindi nangyayari yun. [15:07] So yung pag-wawala nila [15:09] at pag-walk out nila [15:10] kasi hindi pwedeng amendahan daw [15:12] yung rule na ganon-ganon, [15:13] binaboy nila yung rules [15:16] on June 3. [15:18] So it's going to be a lingering question. [15:21] How do you treat that? [15:23] Hindi pumayag si Sen. Wyn sa arrangement [15:25] na dalawa kayong pipirma sa documents, [15:27] and paalo po yung swelod nung [15:29] It's just like the civil rights movement [15:31] sa U.S. Diba? [15:33] From the civil war [15:35] until pinasay yung mga civil rights laws, etc. [15:39] Yung may batas ka, alam mo yung tama. [15:41] Pero yung inaapi pa rin, [15:43] yung mga minority, [15:44] yun yung de facto. [15:46] Diba? [15:47] So alam naman natin lahat [15:48] kung ano tama at sino tama. [15:49] Pero ang kapangyarihan kasi [15:51] nasa kanila eh. [15:52] Nasa kanila ang police, [15:53] nasa kanila ang NBI, [15:54] nasa kanila ang Malacanang. [15:56] Kaya sabi ko, [15:57] lahat ng kapangyarihan nasa kanila. [15:58] Pero katotohanan na sa amin. [15:59] So hindi ko pwedeng bitawan yun. [16:00] Kailangan dumaban tayo doon. [16:02] Kasi kung hindi, [16:03] after this, [16:05] all you have to do is to get [16:07] one senator plus Malacanang. [16:09] Hindi na 13 ang kailangan mong boto. [16:11] One plus one na. [16:12] One plus Malacanang. [16:13] Sir, [16:14] so you will still sign? [16:16] Paano ko? [16:17] I, [16:18] I, [16:19] that is a practical, [16:20] ah, [16:21] question na, [16:22] hindi mangyayari. [16:24] Because nga, [16:25] from, [16:26] the bottom, [16:27] paakyat dun sa office. [16:28] Diba? [16:29] Never naman nila sinarender yung SP office. [16:31] Ah, [16:32] hindi ko namang, [16:33] ah, [16:34] trinatreten yung mga empleyado. [16:35] Diba? [16:36] Ba't sila? [16:37] Inaano nila yung mga empleyado. [16:39] Yung ginawa ni, [16:40] ni, [16:41] ano, [16:42] ni Senator Irwin, [16:43] tapos nag sorry. [16:44] Bad cap, [16:45] good cap yun. [16:46] Sadya yun. [16:47] Ishock mo na yung mga empleyado, [16:48] nakakasuhang ka, [16:49] tawagin mo ko ano-ano. [16:51] Tapos si Senator Irwin naman yung mabait. [16:53] So kahit na nag sorry siya, [16:54] natalim na yun sa puso ng mga empleyado. [16:57] Diba? [16:58] Kaya masakin, [16:59] sa mga empleyado, [17:00] it's a matter of context. [17:01] Sir, [17:03] so, [17:04] so you gave up the signing? [17:06] No, I'm not giving it up. [17:07] I'm just saying, [17:08] malamang hindi dumating sa opisina ko yung pipirmaan. [17:10] Diba? [17:11] But I'm not giving it up. [17:12] Diba? [17:13] Kailangan ko i-assert yun. [17:14] Sir, sorry, [17:15] ano po ba yung extent [17:16] ng arrangement na pinag-propose ko ninyo? [17:18] Hanggang doon lang, [17:19] sa dalawa kayong magsasempre? [17:20] No, it was a first step lang [17:21] kasi sinabi nila, [17:22] open sila. [17:23] Eh, hindi naman pala sila open. [17:26] Diba? [17:27] Kasi sabi nila, [17:28] ayaw nila ng gulot. [17:29] Diba? [17:30] Sabi nila, [17:31] eventually, [17:32] kailangan magsama yung dalawang grupo, [17:33] one senate tayo. [17:34] Diba? [17:35] Kasi nga alam nila na, [17:37] even if we go to the Supreme Court ASAP, [17:40] it will take time. [17:41] So, in the meantime, [17:42] they're buying time [17:44] until they either get one more member [17:46] or whatever. [17:48] In any way, I can and it's just like yung example na binigay ko sa'yo, whether it's [17:56] apartheid, whether it's civil rights, doon tayo sa tama. [18:01] Okay, thank you guys. [18:04] One last question. [18:05] So are you referring to the one filed by the school teacher? [18:13] It's always an option for everyone. [18:16] It's an option for the other side, for us, for other employees can also file. [18:20] So let's see, kasi nauna na si Senator Wynne, nag-meeting na yesterday ata sa mga taga-usaha [18:27] and yung kanilang in-appoint na sekretary at osaha, magmatiligal, umikot na in every [18:35] As I told you, as a practical matter, ang matagal na naging Senate President si Senator Drilo. [18:42] Tapos si Senator Soto matagal din, more than five years. [18:47] Si Senator Coco, Senator Meigs, Senator Cheese, magkakasama sila ngayon. [18:50] Ako naman ni isang empleyado, wala pa akong na-appoint. [18:54] So sa practical matter din, sila ang mga kaklos, so syempre, sila ang napakinggan. [18:59] But I have faith in the Senate staff that they should listen to all sides, but I don't [19:04] want to disturb, di ba, hindi civil war ang gusto namin, ang gusto namin manaig sa Senate [19:10] kung ano tama, tama, kung ano mali, mali. [19:12] Thank you, guys. [19:14] Thank you, sir. [19:57] Thank you.