Senate flood control inquiry resumes under Cayetano bloc — Jun. 4

[0:00] Now, there will be a record record of the Senado and the Senado and the Senado of our country. [0:07] It's not just a narrative that we don't see in the media. [0:14] You know, you can give a copy of the Ombudsman, but you can't do it. [0:24] You know that the Ombudsman Secretary of DPWH gave a report to our Ombudsman [0:36] noong Nobyembre pa, 2025, 6 na raa, ilang ilang ilang buwan na kararaan, [0:45] baka isang taon na, o mag-iisang taon na. [0:49] 26 pages na reparel report para gawan, para gawan ng complaint [0:56] ang former Speaker Martin Romualdez. [0:59] Noong October 2026, o noong April 2026, [1:08] mayroon na pong complaint apidavit na ginawa ang Ombudsman [1:12] laban kay former Speaker Martin Romualdez. [1:14] Bakit wala pong naisasampa sa Sandigan Bayan? [1:23] Nauna pa po yung kasama namin. [1:28] Bakit nila pinipilit na dakpin si Senado Bato? [1:34] Para sa ganun, madretso na sa dihig, para maagnas na yung bilang namin. [1:40] Yan lang naman po ang punto nila. [1:41] Makuhin nila uli ang liderato, hindi sa paraan at proseso [1:47] na itinatadhana ng ating mga tuntunin. [1:51] Kung hindi, importante sa kanila, makuhin nila ang liderato [1:55] upang sa ganun, maisagawa nila ang matagal na nilang layunin [2:01] na talagang ibing na lamang ang isyo ng flood control. [2:07] Wala na pong iba. Huwag na kayong mag-isip ng iba. [2:10] Napakarami kasing tao ang involved dito sa flood control nito. [2:13] Ito ang multong ginawa nila, natatakot sila ngayon sa sarili nilang multo. [2:20] Mga kababayan na nakikinig po sa pagdinig na ito, [2:23] hindi po simpleng pagdinig ito, itong araw na ito. [2:28] Ang pagdinig na ito will define us kung saan pupunta ang ating bansa mula ngayon. [2:38] Kaya importante po ito. [2:42] Kaya importante po ito. [2:47] Dahil wala po yung mga importanteng mga taong pinatawag natin [2:50] na dun sana pa sisimulan ang mga tanungan, [2:54] kayo pong nandito ngayon, tatanungin na lang. [2:57] Pagkakataon na ninyo, marirecord na ng formal ang sasabihin ninyo. [3:02] Matatala ng formal. [3:05] Mr. President, bago ako magsimula, meron ka bang gusto kidagdag muna? [3:09] Well, it's not too late. [3:11] The Office of the Ombudsman, DPWH, DOJ, marami kami tanong. [3:15] We need an impartial report, not a partial report. [3:20] So sana pumunta sila. [3:21] Mr. Chairman, dahil wala po ang ibang staff [3:24] at ilang beses nung chairman ako ng Duribon [3:26] ay hiningi ko kanila na i-administer yung oath. [3:30] Maybe I can have the privilege now of returning the favor. [3:33] Ako na i-administer ng oath sa ating mga bisita. [3:36] Salamat po, Mr. President. [3:38] Of course, you are in a better position to administer their oath. [3:42] Magsitayo po kayo lahat. [3:44] Taas natin ating kanakamay. [3:49] Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, [3:54] and nothing but the truth in these proceedings? [3:58] Thank you. [4:03] For the record, Mr. Chairman, [4:05] all of the resource persons seated around the tables here [4:11] have taken or affirmed their oath. [4:17] Thank you, Mr. President. [4:19] Mr. President, for your information, [4:20] Attorney Rondain, lawyer for Saldco, is in the vicinity, [4:26] but I received a notice that he is vented from making his way into this hall. [4:33] Sana po ay merong makapagkatulong sa kanya para makarating dito, nasa babae. [4:50] We asked some of our staff to see what's happening there, [4:55] and then kung kailangan namin sunduhin, susunduhin natin. [4:59] Again, may I remind that even our own employees, [5:03] pag in-interrupt nyo or dinisturb, [5:07] or pipigilan nyo yung ating hearing, [5:11] yan po ay criminal offense, [5:12] at ang hindi pagpapasok sa aming source person ay kasama po yan, [5:18] sa paparusahan. [5:19] Mr. President, [5:28] Sir, meron dito sa likod, dito na lang po, [5:35] para mas safe. [5:37] Sasama na lang po kayo. [5:38] Dito na po kayo. [5:38] Attorney Baligod, [5:53] kayo po yung unang namin natanungin, [5:56] dahil magkakaroon po ng pagbabago lang, [5:58] dahil nawala nga po yung, [6:00] at hindi dumating yung mga principal pong mga [6:02] kasama ninyong respondents para umagang ito. [6:05] Kayo po ba ang tumatay yung abogado ng labing walong ex-soldiers [6:15] na nakahar sa ating ngayon sa komite to? [6:19] Opo, ginoong Sen. Marcoleta. [6:24] Maaari rin po ninyong tanungin ang bawat isa sa kanila [6:27] kung kinukumpir ba nila ang aking admission [6:32] that I am standing as their lawyer. [6:35] So, pwede pong... [6:36] Yan nga po yung gusto kong sabihin. [6:38] Sa lahat pong mga ex-soldiers nandito ngayon, [6:42] kinukumpirma ba ninyo na si Atty. Baligod [6:46] ang tumatay yung abogado para inyo? [6:51] Salamat po. [6:53] Yes, ma'am. [6:55] Mr. Chairman, [6:56] susumbong lang po, [6:57] maraming nag-text na sinusubway baan ang ating hearing ngayon [7:01] at ang nireklamo ay hindi lumalabas sa website, [7:05] pinagbawalan daw. [7:07] At yung iba naman, [7:09] sa ibang plataforma ng media, [7:10] pinapatay ang coverage, [7:12] putol-putol at choppy. [7:14] Kung pwede lang po, [7:15] hayaan natin na marinig ng sambayanan [7:20] ang testimonya ng ating mga Marines. [7:24] Salamat po sa inyong ulat, Madam Senator. [7:27] Talaga pong gagawin nila ang lahat ng kanilang magagawa. [7:30] Mr. Chairman, [7:31] I receive information. [7:34] It's not verified that the Atty. Bantug, [7:39] who is not the secretary, [7:40] ay pinag-utos nga daw to, [7:42] pati yung, [7:43] just the website or wifi? [7:45] Do we have wifi now? [7:46] What about wifi? [7:52] So, again, [7:53] kung sino in charge ng website, [7:56] put it on. [7:57] If not, [7:58] kasama din po kayo [7:59] sa nag-interrupt, [8:00] nag-disturb ng proceeding [8:01] because in the digital age, [8:04] pag ang coverage ng hearing, [8:07] you interfere with that. [8:09] That is part of [8:11] stopping the public [8:12] from knowing what is happening here. [8:15] So, again, [8:16] ayoko kayo maipit, [8:17] pero hindi man siguro kayo maipit [8:19] by putting on live [8:21] kung ano nangyayari ito. [8:23] That's a matter of record. [8:24] Even our non-hearing events, [8:28] halimbawa may art fair tayo dyan [8:30] or may EDCOM report, [8:34] ay pwedeng ilagay sa website natin. [8:36] So, there's no legal issue [8:38] about broadcasting [8:40] usually from the Senate. [8:41] Thank you very much, Madam. [8:43] Senator Aimee and Mr. Chair. [8:45] Salamat po, Mr. President. [8:47] Kaya po nang aming sinabi kanina [8:48] lahat po ay gawin nila. [8:50] Huwag lamang pong matuloy [8:51] ang hearing na ito, [8:52] lalong-lalong na po para marinig po [8:54] ang sasabihin ng bawat isang [8:56] ex-soldier na nandito ngayon. [8:59] Sa aming ulitin, [9:00] maaaring na-impluensya, [9:02] na-confuse ang iba't naming mga staff dito [9:04] dahil sa ginawa nila. [9:06] Akala po nila yung 12 pinangatwirana, [9:09] nagsasight pa po sila ng jurisprudence, [9:11] Abilion versus Cuenco. [9:13] Kahit na po bar flanker, [9:15] kahit hindi po umasa sa bar, [9:18] ay maintindihan niya [9:19] na hindi applicable yung mga sinasabi nila. [9:21] Pati po yung sinasabi nila [9:23] noong panahon ni Sen. President Drilon, [9:26] 12 lamang po ay okay na pong maging kórum. [9:30] Alam po ninyo, [9:31] isa lang po para maintindihan lahat po [9:33] ng mga kababayan nating nakikinig. [9:35] Ang doktrina po na in-establish [9:37] ng Korte Suprema, [9:39] kapag ilan sa amin, [9:42] ay wala sa Pilipinas. [9:43] Limbawa po, [9:45] kagaya noong panahon noong Abilino [9:47] versus Cuenco, [9:49] isa po sa senador ay wala [9:51] sa ating bansa. [9:53] Pagka po ang isa senador [9:54] ay wala sa ating bansa, [9:56] labas siya sa coercive jurisdiction po [9:59] ng Senado. [10:00] Kaya kung isa ay wala, [10:02] 23 ang basis ng kórum. [10:05] Kaya po noon, [10:06] nangyari po yung 12. [10:08] Sa panahon po [10:09] ni Pangulong, [10:10] ng Pangulo ng Senado, [10:12] Senator Drilon, [10:13] apat po noon, [10:16] ang wala sa bansa [10:17] sa iba't lang kadahilanan. [10:19] Kaya ang basis po ng kórum noon [10:21] ay 20. [10:23] Kaya kahit 11 lang sila, [10:25] pwede ang kórum. [10:26] Sa panahon po namin ngayon, [10:29] ikinulong po nila [10:30] si Sen. Jingoy. [10:31] Pero si Sen. Jingoy po, [10:33] hindi nakakulong sa El Salvador, [10:35] na andito po sa Pilipinas. [10:37] Si Sen. Bato, [10:38] wala namang po determination [10:39] na nakabasya ng Pilipinas. [10:41] Gusto lang nilang ilbas sa Pilipinas [10:43] para malusaw nga po [10:45] yung Pilipinas namin. [10:47] Yun lang po [10:47] para pakatandaan ninyong mabuti. [10:49] Lahat po nang sasabihin nila, [10:51] ililinlangin kayo, [10:53] ililigaw kayo. [10:54] Ililigaw po yung ilan namin [10:56] mga maliyado rito. [10:59] So, Atty. Baligod, [11:00] kinunfirman ng mga nanditong mga dumalo [11:04] na ikaw ay kanilang abogado. [11:08] Tama bang assumption namin [11:10] na ang pinagsamang sinumpang salaysay [11:13] na una ninyong ginawa [11:14] ay binigyan nyo ng kopya [11:16] ang opisina ng ombudsman? [11:19] Tama po yun, Your Honor. [11:23] On the same day that we had [11:25] pinagsamang sinumpang salaysay, [11:28] notarized, [11:30] ay pumunta na po ako [11:31] kay Office of Ombudsman [11:33] para isumite ito. [11:34] Pwede po ba nyo [11:36] sa isay dito sa kapulungan ito [11:38] kung anong petsa ninyo [11:40] binigyan ng kopya [11:41] ang opisina ng ombudsman? [11:45] Nakalagay po dito na [11:47] February 26 po, [11:53] 2026. [11:55] Sa mga katuid, ilang buwan po yun [11:57] mula nung maibigay ninyo [11:58] sa opisina ng ombudsman? [12:00] About 98 days [12:01] today, Your Honor. [12:04] 98 days is how many months? [12:06] Three months. [12:08] Meron na po kayong [12:10] tinanggap na [12:12] komunikasyon mula sa opisina ng ombudsman [12:16] na ginamit niya ito, [12:19] nag-react man lang siya [12:20] kung anong gagawin niya, [12:22] kung paano niya [12:24] itatrato [12:25] itong pinagsamang [12:27] salaysay [12:28] ng inyong mga kliente. [12:31] Sumulat po sa akin [12:33] ang isang director [12:34] ng Office of the Ombudsman, [12:36] records division chief, [12:39] na sinasabi na yung [12:40] pinagsamang sinumpaang [12:42] salaysay [12:43] ay dapat daw po [12:45] isa-isa lamang, [12:48] hindi pinagsama. [12:51] At noong [12:52] gagawin na po namin yun, [12:54] ay nakatanggap naman kami [12:55] ng sub-PINA [12:57] galing sa [12:59] National [13:00] Investigation [13:01] na [13:02] ayon sa kanilang sub-PINA [13:04] ay inutusan sila [13:06] ng Office of the Ombudsman [13:07] to conduct [13:08] an identity [13:09] verification [13:10] doon sa mga [13:11] nakapirma doon. [13:13] So, nangyari po yun, [13:15] pero [13:15] nagkaroon kami ng [13:17] konting [13:17] tatanong [13:19] sa NBI [13:19] dahil ang [13:20] delegated [13:21] authority nila [13:22] ay [13:22] to conduct [13:23] identity [13:25] verification [13:25] lamang, [13:26] ngunit [13:27] pinaghiwahiwalay po nila [13:28] ito si 8 [13:29] at nagkandak po [13:31] si ng isang [13:31] custodial [13:32] investigation. [13:34] At [13:35] pinaalahanan ko po [13:36] ang mga [13:37] investigador [13:38] ng NBI [13:38] na [13:39] kung [13:40] custodial [13:41] investigation [13:41] nyan [13:42] ay entitled [13:42] ang bawat isa [13:43] ng abogado. [13:45] At [13:45] nag-iisa po [13:46] ako noon. [13:48] Kaya [13:48] ang sabi po nila [13:49] dibale [13:49] attorney [13:50] dahil [13:50] ipapabasa [13:51] muna namin [13:52] sa iyo [13:52] ang [13:53] kanilang [13:54] salaysay [13:54] pagkatapos. [13:56] Ngunit [13:56] hindi po [13:57] ginawa ng [13:57] NBI [13:58] yun [13:58] at [13:59] nime po [14:00] sa mga [14:00] 18 [14:01] ay pinilit [14:02] nilang [14:02] pumirma [14:03] at [14:04] doon sa [14:04] nakapirma [14:05] dalawa [14:05] ang [14:06] ginamit [14:06] ng [14:07] Ombudsman [14:09] sa [14:10] Field [14:10] Investigation [14:11] Bureau [14:12] doon sa [14:13] kanilang [14:13] factual [14:15] investigation [14:15] concerning [14:17] former [14:18] Speaker [14:19] Martin [14:19] Romaldes [14:20] Zaldico [14:22] at [14:22] saka [14:22] si [14:23] Raul [14:24] Paras [14:25] at [14:26] naglabas [14:26] ng isang [14:27] complaint [14:28] ang [14:30] opisina [14:32] na yun [14:32] ng [14:33] Ombudsman [14:33] naban [14:34] doon sa [14:34] napanggit [14:34] kong [14:35] tatlo [14:35] at [14:36] ginamit [14:36] po nila [14:37] yung [14:38] salaysay [14:39] na naibigay [14:39] sa [14:40] NBI [14:40] yung [14:41] salaysay [14:42] ni [14:42] Ginoong [14:43] Esquivel [14:44] at [14:45] saka [14:45] ni [14:45] Ginoong [14:46] Navidad [14:47] po. [14:47] Di bang [14:49] kulitohin [14:50] niyo [14:50] yung [14:50] pangalan [14:50] noong [14:51] dalawa [14:52] sa [14:52] 18 [14:53] soldiers [14:54] na [14:55] ang [14:56] kanilang [14:56] salaysay [14:56] ay ginamit [14:57] na batayan [14:58] sa [14:59] pagsasampa [14:59] na [15:01] kaso [15:01] kay [15:02] former [15:03] Speaker [15:05] Martin [15:05] Romualdez [15:06] Salco [15:07] at [15:07] iba [15:07] pa. [15:09] Yung [15:09] isa [15:09] po [15:09] ay [15:10] si [15:10] Christopher [15:11] T. [15:13] Esquivel [15:13] at [15:14] saka [15:15] si [15:15] Hill [15:15] Navidad. [15:20] Mr. [15:20] Chairman. [15:20] Yes, [15:20] Mr. [15:21] President. [15:21] As a [15:22] lawyer, [15:23] kompanero, [15:24] and you [15:25] as a [15:25] practicing [15:25] lawyer, [15:27] hindi [15:28] ba mali [15:28] yung [15:28] procedure [15:29] ganon? [15:29] Kasi [15:29] ang [15:30] alam [15:30] ko [15:31] sa [15:31] custodial [15:31] investigation, [15:33] the [15:33] person [15:33] under [15:33] investigation [15:34] has [15:34] the [15:35] right [15:35] to [15:35] choose [15:36] his [15:36] lawyer [15:36] at [15:37] kailangan [15:37] all [15:38] out [15:38] the [15:38] custodial [15:39] investigation [15:39] present yung [15:41] lawyer niya. [15:42] Hindi [15:42] pwedeng [15:42] sabihin [15:42] ng [15:43] fiscal, [15:44] ng [15:44] police, [15:46] ng [15:46] NBI, [15:46] o [15:46] kusino [15:47] man, [15:48] papakita [15:48] muna [15:49] namin [15:49] sa'yo. [15:50] You're [15:50] there to [15:51] advise [15:51] them [15:52] all [15:52] throughout [15:53] that [15:53] procedure. [15:53] Tama [15:54] tama po [15:54] ba? [15:54] Tama [15:57] po yun, [15:58] Senate [15:58] President. [16:00] Yun po [16:01] ang [16:01] sinabi ko, [16:02] I [16:02] cautioned [16:03] the [16:03] NBI [16:03] investigator [16:04] about [16:04] that [16:05] and [16:05] inadmint [16:06] nila [16:07] na [16:07] alam [16:07] din po [16:08] nila [16:08] yun [16:08] dahil [16:08] abogado [16:09] rin [16:09] sila. [16:10] Kaya [16:10] ako [16:11] naman [16:12] para [16:12] hindi [16:12] nila [16:13] masabing [16:13] obstructionist [16:15] po [16:15] ako, [16:16] ay [16:16] pinayagan [16:17] ko [16:17] po [16:17] sila [16:17] interview [16:18] isa-isa [16:19] na [16:20] walang [16:20] kasamang [16:21] abogado [16:21] but [16:22] with the [16:22] condition [16:23] na [16:23] pag [16:23] natapos [16:24] nila [16:26] interviewee [16:28] ay [16:28] basahin ko [16:30] po muna [16:31] at [16:31] kasama [16:32] ko [16:32] sa [16:32] pipirma. [16:33] Ay [16:33] hindi [16:34] po [16:34] yun [16:34] sinunod [16:35] ng [16:36] ilan [16:36] sa [16:36] mga [16:37] NBI [16:37] investigators. [16:38] I'll ask [16:38] the [16:39] follow-up [16:39] questions [16:39] later [16:40] on [16:40] so [16:40] that [16:40] we [16:40] can [16:40] fast. [16:41] Thank you [16:41] Mr. [16:41] Chairman. [16:43] Pero [16:43] at [16:44] baligod, [16:44] nung [16:45] ibigay [16:45] mo [16:45] itong [16:46] kopya [16:46] sa [16:46] kanila [16:47] ang [16:47] pinagsamang [16:48] sinumpang [16:48] salaysay, [16:49] wala [16:49] naman [16:49] silang [16:49] sinabi [16:50] sa'yo [16:50] na [16:51] yung [16:52] pinagsamang [16:53] salaysay [16:53] na yun [16:53] sa kanyang [16:54] kabuuan [16:55] ay [16:56] hindi nila [16:57] sinabing [16:57] walang [16:59] kwenta, [17:00] hindi nila [17:00] sinabing [17:00] walang [17:01] saisay. [17:03] Wala [17:04] naman po [17:05] silang [17:05] sinabi [17:06] as to [17:07] the [17:07] value [17:07] of [17:08] the [17:08] affidavit. [17:09] Kanya [17:09] lang [17:10] gusto [17:10] nila [17:10] saisahin. [17:12] At [17:12] ipinaglawanan [17:13] ko nga [17:14] po [17:14] na [17:15] itong [17:16] pinagsamang [17:16] sinumpaang [17:17] salaysay [17:18] is a [17:19] common [17:19] practice [17:20] when [17:21] more [17:21] than [17:21] one [17:22] witnesses [17:22] no [17:23] similar [17:24] facts. [17:27] Palagay ko [17:28] po [17:28] ay [17:28] medyo [17:29] nagkamali [17:30] si [17:31] ombudsman [17:32] doon [17:32] dahil [17:33] noong [17:34] PDAF [17:35] investigation [17:36] nga po [17:36] ay [17:37] ganun [17:37] talaga [17:37] ang [17:37] proseso. [17:39] In fact, [17:39] pwede silang [17:40] mag-action [17:41] sa isang [17:42] anonymous [17:43] na [17:44] komplente. [17:46] So, [17:47] ang [17:48] proseso [17:48] po [17:48] talaga [17:49] sana [17:49] dyan [17:49] ay [17:50] merong [17:51] reklamo, [17:53] pwede [17:53] po nilang [17:53] i-refer [17:54] sa kanilang [17:54] field [17:54] investigation [17:55] bureau, [17:56] I think [17:56] there are [17:57] six [17:57] or seven [17:58] bureaus [17:58] na makakandak [18:00] po talaga [18:00] ng ganon [18:01] question [18:01] and answer [18:02] bago gumawa [18:04] sila ng [18:04] isang [18:04] salaysay. [18:05] And [18:05] I am [18:06] proven [18:07] right po [18:07] with [18:08] regard [18:08] to [18:08] that [18:08] procedure [18:09] dahil [18:10] a few [18:10] days [18:11] ago [18:11] I [18:12] received [18:12] a [18:13] letter [18:14] from [18:14] the [18:15] office [18:15] of [18:15] the [18:15] ombudsman [18:16] na [18:17] ganun [18:17] yung [18:18] gagawin [18:18] ng [18:18] proseso. [18:20] Kaya [18:20] sa [18:20] June [18:21] 11 [18:22] po [18:22] nag-invite [18:23] sila [18:23] ng [18:23] isa [18:24] at [18:24] pinapasamahan [18:25] nila [18:26] sa akin [18:26] sa [18:27] June [18:27] 15 [18:28] sa [18:29] umaga [18:29] isa [18:29] sa [18:29] hapon [18:30] at [18:30] pinapasamahan [18:31] din po [18:31] nila. [18:31] And [18:32] tama po [18:32] yung [18:32] proseso [18:33] na yun. [18:34] Yung [18:34] unang [18:34] sinabi [18:35] ng [18:35] ombudsman [18:36] na [18:36] proseso [18:37] nila [18:37] ay [18:37] nagkamali [18:39] po [18:39] siya [18:39] noon. [18:39] Let [18:43] let me [18:43] acknowledge [18:44] our [18:44] colleague [18:45] Senator [18:45] Lauren [18:46] Ligarda. [18:48] Thank you. [18:48] Good morning [18:49] Mr. [18:50] Chair. [18:51] Mr. [18:51] President, [18:52] thank you [18:52] very much. [18:56] Mr. [18:56] Chair, [18:56] may I [18:57] just [18:57] make a [18:58] comment [18:58] on the [18:59] earlier [18:59] statement [19:00] of [19:01] Senator [19:01] Pia [19:02] Cayetano [19:02] if I [19:02] may. [19:05] Mr. [19:05] Chair, [19:05] yes, [19:07] you [19:07] recognized [19:07] me, [19:08] right? [19:08] I am [19:09] not [19:09] AI, [19:09] I'm [19:10] alive, [19:10] and [19:11] I'm [19:11] present. [19:12] Opo, [19:15] in-acknowledge [19:15] ko po [19:16] na hindi [19:16] kayo [19:16] AI [19:17] dahil [19:17] kilalang [19:17] kilalang [19:18] Umari [19:18] ko po [19:18] kayo [19:18] kaya [19:19] kilala [19:20] ko [19:20] kayo. [19:21] Ako [19:21] po'y [19:22] nando [19:22] bilang [19:23] Senate [19:23] President [19:24] Potempore [19:24] at [19:24] membro [19:25] ng [19:25] 24 [19:26] men [19:27] and [19:27] women [19:28] na [19:28] Senado [19:28] at [19:29] ayon [19:30] po [19:30] sa [19:31] sinabi [19:31] ni [19:31] Senator [19:31] Pia [19:32] Cayetano [19:32] so [19:33] nandito [19:33] po [19:34] tayo [19:34] sa [19:34] ating [19:34] pandinig [19:35] kasi [19:36] may [19:36] nagtatanong [19:37] kung [19:37] nasaan [19:38] so [19:39] hindi [19:39] AI [19:39] buhay [19:40] na [19:43] sign [19:43] at [19:44] simple [19:44] lang [19:44] po [19:45] kung [19:45] merong [19:46] 13 [19:47] na [19:47] boto [19:48] na [19:49] kakapagbigay [19:52] at [19:53] iba po [19:53] ang [19:53] ibaboto [19:54] I would [19:55] be more [19:55] than [19:56] willing [19:56] to [19:56] yield [19:57] my [19:57] position [19:58] been [19:58] there [19:58] done [19:58] that [19:59] just [19:59] like [20:00] 2022 [20:01] President [20:03] Mig [20:03] Sofiri [20:03] I was [20:04] protempore [20:04] and [20:05] we [20:05] were [20:06] ousted [20:06] by [20:07] Senate [20:09] President [20:09] Jesus [20:09] Escudero [20:10] and [20:10] Senate [20:10] protempore [20:11] Jingoy [20:11] Estrada [20:12] I [20:12] more [20:12] than [20:13] willingly [20:13] so [20:14] just [20:15] to [20:15] make [20:16] it [20:16] clear [20:16] never [20:17] po [20:17] tayo [20:18] nagkakapito [20:18] ko [20:19] sa [20:19] anumang [20:19] posisyon [20:20] pwede [20:20] po [20:20] para [20:20] ipakita [20:21] na [20:22] nandito [20:23] po [20:23] tayo [20:23] at [20:24] hindi [20:26] pa [20:26] po [20:26] tayo [20:26] nagre-resign [20:27] sa [20:28] ating [20:29] posisyon [20:29] at [20:30] yan [20:30] naman [20:31] ayon [20:31] sa [20:32] Rule [20:33] 2 [20:33] Section [20:34] 2 [20:35] ng [20:36] Senado [20:36] Salamat [20:37] po [20:37] patuloy [20:38] ang [20:38] inyong [20:38] hearing [20:39] ako [20:39] po [20:39] makikinig [20:40] sa [20:41] ating [20:41] mabayani [20:42] na [20:42] nandito [20:42] po [20:43] ngayon [20:43] Salamat [20:44] Salamat [20:46] po [20:46] Madam [20:51] Pakikita [20:53] ko [20:53] sa'yo [20:54] yung [20:54] kopya [20:54] ang [20:54] ibigay [20:55] sa'kin [20:56] at [20:56] sabihin [20:57] mo [20:57] sa [20:57] pagdignan [20:57] ito [20:58] kung [20:58] itong [21:00] dokumentong [21:00] ibigay [21:01] sa'kin [21:01] ikapareho [21:02] rin [21:02] nung [21:02] isinabit [21:03] mo [21:03] sa [21:03] opisina [21:04] ng [21:04] Ombudsman [21:05] For [21:18] the [21:18] record [21:18] President [21:19] Attorney [21:19] Baligod [21:20] comparing [21:21] the [21:21] document [21:21] I [21:22] handed [21:22] him [21:22] with [21:23] the [21:23] document [21:23] that [21:24] he [21:24] first [21:25] the [21:25] office [21:26] of [21:26] the [21:26] Ombudsman [21:26] Mr. [21:28] Chair [21:28] before [21:29] I [21:29] respond [21:30] to [21:30] your [21:31] request [21:33] let [21:34] me [21:37] po [21:37] sa [21:38] tanong [21:38] nyo [21:38] na [21:39] ito [21:40] dahil [21:40] alam [21:41] ko [21:41] po [21:41] may [21:42] umiikot [21:42] noon [21:43] sa [21:43] social [21:43] media [21:44] claiming [21:46] na yun [21:47] yung [21:47] affidavit [21:48] ng [21:48] 18 [21:49] ng [21:50] mga [21:50] dating [21:50] sundalo [21:51] at [21:52] nakita [21:52] ko [21:52] na [21:52] maraming [21:53] mali [21:53] may [21:53] mga [21:54] dagdag [21:54] bawas [21:55] at [21:56] yung [21:56] maling [21:57] affidavit [21:58] po [21:58] na yun [21:58] ang [21:58] ginamit [21:59] ng [21:59] ilang [22:00] mga [22:00] mambabatas [22:02] sa [22:02] kanilang [22:02] reklamong [22:03] libel [22:04] at [22:04] cyber [22:04] libel [22:05] sa [22:05] amin [22:05] ginamit [22:07] po [22:09] at [22:11] may [22:11] mga [22:11] intercalations [22:12] na [22:13] affidavit [22:13] po [22:13] sa [22:30] amin [22:30] pong [22:30] si [22:30] Mite [22:30] sa [22:31] office [22:31] of [22:31] the [22:31] ombudsman [22:32] page [22:39] your [22:47] honor [22:48] i [22:48] withdraw [22:49] my [22:49] initial [22:50] statement [22:50] and [22:51] i [22:51] confirm [22:52] that [22:52] these [22:53] are [22:53] the [22:53] same [22:54] parehong [22:55] parehong [22:55] kasi [22:57] nakalimutan [22:59] ko [23:00] yung [23:00] salamin [23:01] na [23:01] sasakyan [23:01] okay [23:02] thank [23:16] you [23:16] for [23:16] confirming [23:17] copy [23:18] that [23:18] I [23:18] receive [23:19] is [23:19] similar [23:19] with [23:20] the [23:20] one [23:20] that [23:21] you [23:21] submitted [23:21] to the [23:22] office [23:22] of [23:22] the [23:22] ombudsman [23:23] kasi po [23:24] dahil [23:24] wala pa [23:25] naman [23:25] kaming [23:25] hawak [23:26] na [23:26] mga [23:26] individual [23:27] na [23:27] maaring [23:29] ipagawa [23:31] namin [23:31] sa inyo [23:34] para po [23:38] hindi [23:38] tayo [23:39] bibigyan [23:42] na po [23:42] namin [23:43] kayo [23:43] ng [23:43] photocopy [23:44] of what [23:45] we [23:45] submitted [23:45] to [23:45] the [23:46] ombudsman [23:46] nagprepare [23:47] po [23:47] kami [23:47] ng [23:47] kopya [23:47] para [23:48] sa inyo [23:48] for [24:19] the [24:19] record [24:19] again [24:20] attorney [24:20] baligod [24:20] gave [24:21] the [24:22] chairman [24:22] as well as [24:23] my [24:23] colleagues [24:24] in the [24:26] committee [24:26] a copy [24:27] of the [24:28] pinagsamang [24:29] sinumpang [24:30] salisay [24:30] of the [24:31] 18 [24:32] ex-soldiers [24:33] copy [24:35] that was [24:36] submitted [24:37] to [24:37] the office [24:39] of the [24:39] ombudsman [24:40] sometime [24:40] in February [24:41] 2026 [24:42] binasa [24:51] binasa [24:51] ko [24:51] ito [24:51] attorney [24:51] baligod [24:52] at [24:52] ang [24:53] nagbigay [24:53] sa akin [24:54] ng [24:54] malaking [24:58] atensyon [24:59] ay [24:59] yung [24:59] napakaraming [25:02] deliveries [25:03] ng [25:03] mga [25:03] maleta [25:04] na [25:05] nakalitrato [25:08] pa [25:08] dito [25:09] sa inyong [25:09] sinumpang [25:10] salisay [25:10] initially [25:11] pwede [25:12] ko [25:12] bang [25:12] malaman [25:13] sa [25:14] magitan [25:14] ng [25:14] pagtatang [25:15] kamay [25:15] ng [25:15] mga [25:16] nandito [25:16] mga [25:16] ex-soldiers [25:17] sino [25:18] sino [25:18] po [25:19] ninyo [25:19] ang [25:20] nakapag [25:22] deliver [25:23] o [25:24] nag-deliver [25:25] ng mga [25:26] mali-maletang [25:27] salapi [25:29] sa mga [25:32] bahay [25:32] o lugar [25:33] na sinasabi [25:34] nyo [25:35] na pag-aari [25:36] former Speaker [25:37] Martin Romualdez [25:38] pakita lang po [25:39] ang kamay [25:39] for the record [25:44] Sir President [25:46] halos lahat po [25:48] ay [25:48] personal na [25:50] nakakaalam [25:51] na silang lahat [25:52] ay nag-deliver [25:52] ng [25:53] mali-maletang [25:56] pera [25:57] sa bahay [25:57] o sa mga [25:58] lugar [25:58] na pag-aari [25:59] ni former Speaker [26:00] Martin Romualdez [26:01] Salamat po [26:02] Sir Chairman [26:03] Sorry to interrupt [26:05] marami pong media [26:06] sa labas [26:07] ayaw papasukin [26:08] makiusap ulit ako [26:11] sa staff [26:12] kung hindi ko [26:12] mismong bababa [26:13] sa pagkaalam ko [26:15] may freedom of [26:16] address pa naman [26:17] at hindi nyo [26:17] naman pipigil na [26:18] nandito lahat [26:19] ang ating mga [26:19] patid sa media [26:20] nandito lahat [26:21] ng camera [26:21] so [26:22] pagbigin natin [26:23] lahat ng [26:23] sasyon [26:24] at lahat [26:24] ng outlets [26:25] may [26:26] pagabi [26:27] kung sa gate [26:28] daw [26:28] pinakita sa akin [26:29] picture [26:30] ayaw papasukin [26:31] nag-issue [26:32] kasi po [26:32] si Senator [26:33] Winn Gatchalian [26:34] ng [26:34] 10 o'clock [26:36] uwian na [26:38] sabi nila [26:40] gusto nila [26:40] magtrabaho [26:41] pero 10 o'clock [26:42] gusto nila [26:42] uwian na [26:43] so [26:44] tutuloy natin to [26:45] Mr. President [26:45] Mr. Chairman [26:47] but [26:47] huling panawagan [26:50] na ito [26:51] na lahat [26:51] ng gustong [26:52] mag-attend [26:52] basta't [26:53] maayos lang [26:53] payagan po [26:55] nilang [26:55] papasukin [26:56] thank you [26:56] Mr. Chairman [26:57] Mr. Chair [26:59] may I [27:00] recognize [27:00] for a [27:01] few seconds [27:01] of [27:02] preliminary [27:03] statement [27:03] before [27:04] you [27:05] start [27:05] asking [27:06] questions [27:06] directed [27:07] to the [27:07] 18 [27:08] former [27:08] soldiers [27:09] yes [27:09] that is [27:10] supposed [27:10] to be [27:10] the one [27:11] we'll [27:11] ask you [27:11] to do [27:12] because [27:12] you need [27:12] to [27:12] identify [27:13] them [27:14] the [27:14] circumstances [27:14] who [27:15] worked [27:16] and [27:17] how [27:17] to [27:18] do [27:18] this [27:19] together [27:19] please [27:21] proceed [27:21] thank you [27:25] Mr. Mark [27:26] Coleta [27:27] I just want to [27:31] say [27:31] but [27:32] it will [27:32] take me [27:33] a few [27:33] minutes [27:35] there are [27:37] two reasons [27:38] why we're [27:38] here [27:39] in the [27:40] front of [27:40] you [27:40] the first [27:42] reason [27:42] is [27:42] we're [27:44] hungry [27:44] to [27:45] get [27:45] to [27:46] reason [27:47] we're [27:48] here [27:48] to [27:49] right [27:51] we're [27:54] there [27:54] in [27:57] pro-contribute [27:58] n'yo [27:59] sa [28:00] ikalulos [28:01] ng [28:01] problema [28:01] natin [28:02] na [28:03] ayaw [28:03] pong [28:04] lutasan [28:04] noong [28:05] naunang [28:05] leadership [28:06] ng [28:06] Senado [28:07] ang [28:08] pangalawang [28:08] rason [28:09] na nandito [28:09] kami [28:09] ay [28:10] dahil [28:10] nga [28:10] po [28:10] sa [28:10] inyong [28:11] paanyanya [28:12] bilang [28:13] chair [28:13] ng [28:14] subcommittee [28:15] ng [28:15] Blue Ribbon [28:16] Committee [28:16] We also received an email from the office of Sen. Erwin Tulfo claiming to be the new chair of the Blue Ribbon Committee. [28:32] We decided to honor the invitation of the committee as chaired by Sen. Caetano and as chaired by you as the chair of the subcommittee. [28:45] Because, as you said earlier, it was a process. [28:50] At earlier, we knew that the punishment was a habit-forming. [28:55] Dati, they were the punishment for the payas. [29:02] Now, at earlier, they were the punishment for the punishment. [29:07] At earlier, we wanted to make the punishment for our families. [29:17] So, I would say that the punishment was a habit-forming. [29:23] This affidavit was made by the soldiers. [29:28] After a meeting, I had to ask for their witnesses. [29:36] I had to ask for their witnesses. [29:37] I had to ask for their witnesses. [29:38] I had to ask for their witnesses. [29:41] I have to ask for their witnesses. [29:42] I had to ask for their witnesses. [29:43] I had to ask for their witnesses. [29:47] Marami pa po silang alam na hindi namin inilagay dito at sinadya ko po na hindi ilahad-lahat because I just wanted concerned agencies of government to look to their allegations. [30:02] Parang invitasyon lamang at gusto namin sa isang formal na investigasyon sana ilalabas ang lahat po. Marami pong wala dito at halimbawa nga po, pardon me if I touch the sensitivities of some. [30:20] Especially nandito po ang isang ginagalang nating babae na membro ng Senado na ito. [30:28] Pero halimbawa po, personal na witness ng mga sundalong ito, isang membro ng ati Senado ay engaged sa human trafficking, namimili siya ng babae at ipinapagpan ng mga sundalo sa kwarto na nandun yung kasamahan po ninyo. [30:45] Attorney, sorry ha. Ang problema kasi karamihan ng Senado, lalaki. So pag hindi mo sinabing pangalan, baka hindi kami makauwi ng buhay sa mga asawa namin. So banggitin mo na sino. [30:58] Basta sabi ko po na wala dito. And in due time po ay... [31:02] Okay, in due time, basta't may personal knowledge, basta't hindi ma-retest. Go ahead. Pero as much as possible, Mr. Chairman, yun ang request. [31:12] Wala tayong sasabihin na hindi personal knowledge. Pangalawa, pag sinabi ng meron ganito sino, parang pagtanggol niya sarili niya. [31:20] Inuna lamang po kasi namin itong pagnanakaw, no? Pero yung ibang mga krimen na nalaman namin ay sabi ko nga, in due time, dahil nakita po namin na ang sitwasyon ng ating bangsa ngayon ay delikado pag ikaw ay magbunyag ng isang katotohanan. [31:37] The executive now has control practically of Congress. [31:45] Sorry to interrupt, Sir President. Mr. Chairman, I'll take a leave. Ayaw papasukin pa rin yung ibang media. Bababain ko na lang muna. [31:52] Yes, apropos of that, Senate President Allen, please. Nahak po yung website yata ni Chairman Marcoleta. [32:03] At hindi na lumalabas. May lumalabas na nagda-drums na hak po yung kay President Marcoleta. [32:10] Yes, at hindi siya makapag-livestream. May taong nagda-drums yun na lang ang lumalabas. Nakakapagtaka. [32:17] Ikalawa, bago kayo umas sa President Allen at kay Chair Marcoleta, ibig ko lang tanongin, bakit po narito ang DILG Secretary John Dick Muglia? [32:30] Na pinagtatakahan ko po, dahil ang pagkaalam po, ang tanging security lamang sa atin ay ang OSA. [32:38] Sino ba ang nag-request? Kasi di ba, kailangan mag-timbre ang PAP. Napakarami po nila. [32:46] Yeah, well, Mr. Chair, we just assume regularity. But we'll find out. We'll find out. [32:52] There was news kanina na nirequest siya to be here by Senator Winn. [32:56] But as we said, Senator Winn has no authority. It is the Senate President who has authority over the corridors and premises of the Senate. [33:04] Having said that, I assume good faith. But puntaan ko lang yung media kasi malapit na yung testimony ng ating mga kasama. [33:09] Kaibigan po naman natin si Secretary John. Subalit, maraming nagtaranong kung local government unit o LGU na lamang Senate. [33:19] So for the record, pinapapasok na rin. Thank you for that question, Madam Aimee. I'll find out. I'll find out. I just have to take stock. [33:28] Ilan sa ating mga empleyado ay susunod pa sa legitimate Senate President. [33:33] Ilan lang ang gustong sundan yung nangyari kahapon. Thank you for that, Mr. Chairman. Sorry for that interruption. [33:40] Ako, hindi ko na ipinagtataka kung nawa nila doon sa aming Facebook page yun. [33:50] Interesado sila dito sapagkat maraming dapat na mabulgar, ngunit natatakot silang malaman ang buong sambayanan kung sino-sino sila. [33:59] Ganun po ka importante ang paginig na ito. Kaya huwag kayong magtaka. [34:04] Atty. Baligod, huwag kang magtataka rin kung ang pagnanakaw ay napunta na sa iba't ibang bagi pa. [34:09] Malalaman mo naman, ninakaw na nga yung karapatan namin sa magano rito. [34:16] Akala nila siguro hindi kami papasok sa araw nito at maniniwala kami sa kanilang ginawa. [34:22] Hindi po, hindi po totoo lahat yun. [34:26] Alam naman ninyo, kagaya sa ombudsman at saka kasama nila sa once, sila ang promotor ng Bendalo. [34:36] Hindi ba? Nakakalimutan nyo na ba yun? [34:39] At sinangayunan nga yun ang pinuno ng ombudsman. [34:41] Alam na ninyo ito, kung sila mismo ang promotor ng Bendalo, kaya-kaya nilang gawin lahat ito. [34:49] Pero ulitin po namin, kahit sila po sana ang manguna dito sa paginig na ito, wala po kami ang problema. [34:57] Kung nagkakaisa lamang po kami sa kagustuhan ng mamayan, napapanagutin po natin ang lahat nagkasa. [35:06] Kahit sila po yung chairman, walang problema. [35:07] Kaya lang ako na lang po ang nagsasabi sa kanila isa-isa, na tulungan nyo ako, [35:13] pagtulungan natin na maayos natin ang problema nito, dahil naghihintay ang taong bayan. [35:19] Hindi po ba yun ang mabuting parang? [35:21] Bakit ayaw nilang magsama? [35:23] At ngayon, ginagawa nila lahat ang kaya nilang duwi. [35:26] Huwag lang matuloy sa salita ng bawat isa sa inyo. [35:30] Pero itutuloy po natin. [35:31] At Tony Baligod, yung tinatanong ko sa iyo is please mo kung papano sanggaling ang mga dakilang mga sundalong ito, [35:44] papano nila nagawa ang sinumpang salaysay, kanino sila nagtrabaho, [35:49] at papano sila nagkaroon ng ganitong impormasyon para maglahad sila ngayon sa umagang ito sa harap ng komite. [35:57] Salamat po, Senator Marcoleta. [36:00] Halos ang buong buwan sa noon ay nanonood sa Senate Blue Ribbon Committee hearing [36:09] na kung saan si retired sergeant Orly Gutesa ay nagbigay ng kanyang testimonya. [36:18] At pati itong mga dati niyang kasamahan at ako ay nalaman namin kung ano ang naging trato sa kanya. [36:27] At hanggang sa tuluyang nawala si Orly Gutesa. [36:33] At sinubukan po ang alamin kung ano ba talaga ang nangyari kay Sergeant Gutesa. [36:40] At salamat naman sa informasyon ng ilang mga kaibigan natin sa Armed Forces of the Philippines [36:46] na napagkwento kung ano ba talaga. [36:49] So ako po ay nag-isip na totoo kaya ang sinasabi ni Sergeant Gutesa. [36:59] At doon po nagsimula na hanapin ko ang mga kasamahan niya. [37:05] At meron akong kaibigan po na kaibigan niya yung dating pinakamataas sa security detail [37:15] ni Congressman Saldico na si General Jeff Sodusta at saka si Colonel William Dominguez. [37:25] At nakausap ko po si Colonel Dominguez. [37:31] At pinaunlak naman niya ako na makausap ang apat sa kanila. [37:39] Pero pagkatapos po ng pag-ulat na yun ay napansin ko na iba ang body language ni Colonel Dominguez. [37:49] At tayo pong mga litigator ay nakakabasa ng body language. [37:53] Kaya noong nagpumunta sa comfort room ang isa sa kanila, [38:00] ay sinundan ko at doon ko kinausap na kung may kailangan ka, [38:06] kontakin mo ako, binigay ko yung number ko. [38:08] At totoo nga po, no? [38:10] After three days ay nakausap ko sila ulit at ipinakita sa akin yung text message ni Colonel Dominguez [38:17] na dinidiscourage ang mga ito, nakausapin ulit ako. [38:23] Ngunit, may I ask Tony, active yan si General? [38:26] Retired na po sila. [38:28] Retired na. [38:28] Pati si General Sodusta. [38:30] Yes. [38:31] Maybe we'll get the names later on, Mr. Chairman. [38:33] At kung pwede, next hearing, imbitayin natin sila. [38:36] As nasabi pa rato ni Senator Lacson, sundan natin yung ebidensya. [38:41] Diba? [38:41] So as the names are mentioned, may I ask the Secretariat to take note [38:45] and then maybe any member can manifest, Chairman, kung sino dapat ma-invita later on. [38:51] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [38:53] So nung kumontak po nga ang isa sa akin, [38:56] ang sinabi niya ay dinidiscourage sila ni Colonel, Retired Colonel Dominguez. [39:02] Nakausapin ulit ako. [39:05] Pero nararamdaman ko sa kanila. [39:08] Dibali na yun, hindi lang na-discourage. [39:11] Ang totoo niya, nakagawa sila ng pinagsamang salaysay. [39:15] Ito ay pinasalamatan sa inyo nga buong sambaynan [39:18] at naging matapang kayo para magsiwalat kayo sa nalalaman ninyo. [39:23] Ang gusto ko lamang talagang tindigan ninyo, [39:26] lahat ng sinabi ninyo rito, lahat ng nakasulat dito, [39:29] ay kaya ninyong tindigan [39:31] at maaari po kayong makagawa ng detalyadong pagsasalaysay kung kinakailangan. [39:37] Sapagkat nabasa ko yung ibang bahagi ito, [39:40] medyo may pagka-general ang approach. [39:43] Katulad halimbawa, [39:45] nung sinasabi nyo rito na may mga maleta ding na ibigay sa mga miyembro ng media. [39:52] Wala kayong binagit dito, [39:53] pero inaasahan ko na ididetalyan ninyo kung sino-sino ang nabigang maleta [39:59] sa panig ng ating mass media. [40:02] Napaka-napakasama po kasi ang magiging resulta, [40:07] lalong-lalo na kung totoo nga sa magitan ninyo, [40:11] ni-establish natin talaga kung totoo lahat ito, [40:15] saan naman kayo nakakita [40:17] ang taong bayan na nagdidipende ng kalang impormasyon. [40:22] Lars na maleta, [45:21] pwede man nyong ulitin dito sa pagdinig, [45:24] gaano ba ang laman nung tinatawag nyong small? [45:27] Yung small, your honor, is naglalaman po ng 20 to 25 million. [45:39] Pesos? [45:40] Pesos po, your honor. [45:41] Yung medium? [45:43] Yung medium po is 40 to 50, [45:48] then yung large po, 50 to 70 po. [45:52] Paano nyo naman nagawang estimate? [45:57] Paano nyo na-estimate sa Tagalog? [46:01] Paano nyo na-tansya na between 20 to 25 or 40 to 42 or 50 to 60? [46:10] Kasi po, your honor, [46:12] every time po na nagkakarga po kami [46:14] or nagbababa ng mga mali-maletang pera [46:18] mula sa unit ni dating congressman, [46:23] ay meron pong post-it po na nakalagay sa mismong maleta. [46:28] Ilang beses naman kayong nagdadala ng maleta? [46:32] Kanino at kung saan? [46:34] Ah, mula po nung umupo na apro si dating congressman, [46:45] ay nagde-deliver po kami almost three times a week, [46:50] meron po four times a week na nagde-deliver po kami [46:53] sa mga iba't ibang opisyalis ng ating bansa, [46:58] ay ng ating pamahalaan. [47:00] Ilang taon naman inyong ginagawa ang pagde-deliver na ito? [47:03] Ah, mula po nung umupo na apro si dating congressman sa ligo, your honor. [47:09] Anong taon yung dati siyang chairman ng apro? [47:13] Ah, mula po nung ah, 2022, your honor. [47:19] Hanggang 2025? [47:20] Yes po, your honor. [47:24] Tatlong beses, isang linggo, ilang maleta naman bawat delivery? [47:29] Hindi po bababa sa 20 maleta po, your honor, ang naid-deliver. [47:35] Bawat delivery? [47:36] Yes po, your honor. [47:38] So bawat delivery, 20 maleta, maliit, medium, at saka yung large, [47:51] haluhalo na, ganun ba? [47:53] Opo, your honor. [47:54] Tatlong beses, isang linggo, ilang maleta yun? [48:00] Minsan po, sir, umabot po ng 60 to 70, your honor. [48:09] Saldi, napumunta doon sa Ilocos. [49:46] Kasama niyo si congressman Saldi ko, nung mag-deliver kayo? [49:52] Kami po yung nagdala, sir, sa Delta Gate, then sila Sergeant Tube, [49:56] at saka ni Boss Saldi, ang nagdala po doon sa Ilocos. [50:01] Mr. Chair, saan sa Ilocos? [50:09] Your honor, ako po si Belner Tube. [50:12] Sa Pauay po, your honor. [50:13] Kaya yung magkasama, yung dalawa kayo? [50:16] Kaya mga retrato pa ng aeroplata? [50:19] Ah, yung nag-receive lang po kung sino po doon sa Pauay po yung nag-receive po. [50:23] Alam ninyo yung address o yung bahay, kahit barangay lamang? [50:32] Ah, your honor, hindi po kasi gabi po kami dumating ni Kong Saldi doon sa area po. [50:38] Pero kasama ko si Kong Saldi. [50:46] Alam niya po yung ano po yung exact address doon. [50:49] Anong itsura? [50:51] Ah, nakayitariyo, ma'am. Nakatabi po ng lake, yung lugar po. [50:56] Tabi ng lake o tabi ng dagat? [50:59] Ah, kasi gabi po. Either dagat or lake kayo, ma'am. [51:02] Basta tabing tubig? [51:04] Yes po. [51:05] May bayin? [51:05] Yes po. [51:06] Tapos sa, saan kayo? [51:09] Ah, doon ma'am sa, ano, sa litter you na bahay, ma'am. [51:12] Kasi nakikita ko po yung mga picture nung dating president po na si Marcos din po. [51:19] May picture din po sila ng family din po. [51:21] Then yung room po, may mga, yung telepono po kasi may mga pangalan po ng mga anak niya. [51:26] At saka niya. [51:26] So nakapasok pala kayo? [51:28] Yes po. [51:28] I see. [51:29] Nakita ba ninyo yung kamag-anak nila o pamilya ng mga opisyal? [51:34] Yung time na dumating po kami, Your Honor, is sila-sila lang po. [51:39] Noon na po si Kong Sandro, then next po si President, then si First Lady po yung dumating nag-dinner po sila ni Kong Saldi. [51:46] Andong pa rin kayo? [51:47] Yes po. [51:49] Kinamugahan na po kami bumalik po ng Maynila po. [51:51] Kailan kayo nagpa-picture? Nakita ko may mga matrato pa kayo eh. [51:57] Your Honor, natandaan ko 2022 pero di ko matandaan yung... [52:01] Pero that was the same visit noong nag-ha-read kayo ng Maleta. [52:04] Yes po, yes sir. [52:04] Thank you po. [52:10] May mga kopya ba attached? I haven't had the time to look at this. [52:13] Attorney Baligo, do you have copies here? [52:15] Because I've seen them before but I'm not certain that they've been submitted officially to the committee. [52:20] Yung picture po ni Sergeant Tube, nakasama si Congressman Sandro, may picture po pero hindi ko sinama dyan. [52:30] Meron din po siyang picture nakasama si BBM. [52:43] Pero hindi ko rin po sinama sa affidavit. [52:45] Kailan ninyo may sasubmit yung mga larawan, mga pictures o video kaya na lalong magpapatibay noong inyong sinasabi sa umagang ito? [52:55] Pagkatapos po nito, Your Honor ay iipunin namin sa isang USB. [53:00] In fact, nag-umpisa na kami mula nung natanggap namin ang invitasyon ninyo. [53:05] Pero marami po talaga ang iba't ibang sources. [53:08] Itinago rin po kasi nila yung kanilang telepono. [53:12] Dahil alam nyo po... [53:14] Sino po ang nagtago? [53:16] Nung una po kasi, nung lumabas si Sergeant Gutesa, lahat sila ay pinatawag. [53:21] Siguro sila ang magkwento mamaya. [53:23] Na pinatawag sila at right there and then, kinuha po yung kanilang telepono. [53:29] Gusto ko sila nang magkwento. [53:30] Sino ang pwedeng magkwento sa bahagi na yun na sinasabi ni Atty. Baligod? [53:36] Yung tungkol sa telepono, sino yung kumuha ng telepono? [53:39] Your Honor... [53:41] Pangalan po, pangalan. [53:43] Ako pala si Biniis Bulontati. [53:46] Your Honor, nung mutok yung flood control po 2024, [53:52] Nakapagsalita na po dito si Master Sergeant Orly Gutesa ngayon. [54:01] Maraming nagliligaw sa amin. [54:04] Ano po? Ano po? [54:05] Nililigawan po kami na hindi na po kami magsalita para manahimik na lang po. [54:11] Una dyan, napatawag kami sa... [54:12] Sino po ang lumiligaw sa inyo? [54:15] Si... ano po? [54:16] Si dating Chief of Staff, Nick Tore po. [54:21] General Tore po. [54:22] General Nick Tore. [54:23] Yes po, Your Honor. [54:25] Anong klaseng panliligaw naman ang ginawa sa'yo? [54:27] Siyempre yung naliligaw, kumbaga sa babaeng nililigawan, [54:30] kung ano-ano ang inoooper, [54:33] kumisan may bulaklak, may tsokolate, [54:35] pinakikita ang kagandahan laloob, lalaki, [54:39] para lang maibig mo. [54:40] Anong klaseng panliligaw ang ginawa niya? [54:42] Una, Your Honor, [54:44] kinausap kami na mag-firma ng apidabit [54:49] na walang visa namin yung mga sinasabi ni Orly Gutesa po. [55:00] Ibig sabihin, pinagagawa kayo ng apidabit [55:02] na huwag ninyong patotohanan [55:06] yung mga pinagsasabi [55:09] na nauna ni Sgt. Gutesa. [55:13] Opo, Your Honor. [55:14] Pumayag ba kayo? [55:16] Katunayan nga, Your Honor, [55:17] matagal kami nagdibating dalaway. [55:19] Simula alas 4 ang Galangas City. [55:21] Kaso lang yung apat na kasama ko, [55:25] napilitan na silang pumirma, [55:27] gawa nung naipid na po, [55:29] baka kami ay mapahamak po sa kanila. [55:32] Mapahamak po ang sarili namin po. [55:35] Sa makatwid, [55:36] hindi siya naliligaw, nananakot siya. [55:42] Yung naliligaw, malumanay, [55:45] magandang approach. [55:48] Pero natakot ang mga ibang kasama mo, [55:50] nakapirma doon sa kanyang kagustuhan [55:53] na huwag patotohanan [55:55] yung sinasabing nauna ni Sgt. Gutesa. [55:58] Yes, Your Honor. [55:59] Bali, lima kami po yung pumirma. [56:01] Ako yung pinakahuling pumirma. [56:04] Pero ngayon, sinasabi mo na [56:06] napapirma ka lang [56:08] dahil napilitan ka lang. [56:11] Yes, Your Honor. [56:12] Pagkatapos noon, [56:14] ano naman ang pabuya na binigay sa iyo [56:16] kung meron? [56:17] Binigyan kami ng 50,000, Your Honor, [56:21] para sa disturbance na meron. [56:22] Pakiulit nga po? [56:23] Magkano po? [56:24] 50,000, Your Honor. [56:26] Yen. [56:27] Pesos nyo. [56:28] Pesos. [56:29] Sino nagbigay? [56:31] Si, ano po, yung si Annalisa Gaspar po. [56:35] Yung staff niya doon po. [56:38] O ano naman ang, [56:40] bakit niya lang kayo binigyan, [56:41] kayong lahat binigyan ng 50,000 pesos? [56:43] Yes, Your Honor. [56:45] Para manahimik at huwag patibayan [56:48] o patibayan ang pinagsasabi [56:50] ni Sgt. Gutesa. [56:51] Opo, Your Honor. [56:52] At saka mga sunod na araw, [56:54] Your Honor, [56:55] pinatawag naman po ulit kami na [56:56] yung lahat ng cellphone po namin [56:59] ibibigay po sa kanila. [57:01] Sa anong dahilan? [57:04] Papalitan po ng mga bago po. [57:07] iPhone po. [57:09] Ano bang klase yung mga cellphone nyo? [57:10] Nokia? [57:11] iPhone 16. [57:13] So papalitan nila ng mas maganda? [57:15] Yes, Your Honor. [57:16] Alam ninyo yung dahilan kung ba't nila gagawin yun? [57:19] Kasi nandun yung mga picture namin, [57:21] Your Honor, [57:21] na nakasave sa cellphone po namin. [57:26] Anong palang nangyari, [57:28] paano kayo nagkaroon pa ng mga litrato [57:29] na nasama dito sa inyong pinagsamang salaysay? [57:34] Meron po kaming nakasave sa iCloud po namin. [57:39] Nautakan mo rin siya, di ba? [57:41] Yes, Your Honor. [57:43] Kahit babasagi po yung cellphone ko, [57:46] hindi ko po i-restore sa isang cellphone po. [57:47] Pinapatunayan pa ba ninyo yung sinasabi niya sa... [57:53] Kayo po? [57:55] Your Honor. [57:56] Pangalan po? [57:57] Rose Bertupan. [57:59] Idagdag ko lang po. [58:00] Ito po yung cellphone na binigay sa amin. [58:03] Anong pakisabi mo kung anong klase ng cellphone para ma-record? [58:07] iPhone 16E 128GB. [58:10] Magkano yan sa ngayon? [58:12] Hindi ko... [58:14] Mga 30 plus siguro, Your Honor. [58:16] Ano? [58:17] 30 plus. [58:18] Hindi sila marunong manligaw? [58:24] Yes, Mr. President. [58:25] Chairman, one question. [58:26] Sir, brand new nung binigay sa inyo. [58:30] Yes, Your Honor. [58:31] May ask the staff mamaya yung ano tawag doon? [58:33] I-M-E... [58:35] May number yan eh. [58:37] I-M-E-I... [58:38] Oo. [58:39] Tryin lang natin itrace. [58:41] Baka kung saan nila binili at paano ma... [58:43] It's our duty here na sundin lahat ng ebidensya. [58:46] So we'll try to do a forensic then. [58:48] Kahit namin hindi lahat or kung sino hawak yung bago. [58:52] Tulungan nyo na lang kami ko. [58:53] Alam nyo yung sinasabi ko. [58:54] Sige po. [58:54] Thank you, Mr. President. [58:55] Dagdag ko lang po, Your Honor. [58:57] Gusto nyo lang makuha yung dati yung cellphone kasi marami po akong nakasave doon na mga picture. [59:03] Pero dahil po sa Marines po ako, wise-wise, ibang cellphone po yung binigay ko. [59:09] Kaya nasave ko po yung mga picture. [59:11] Sabi nga nila, Mr. President, nagtatali-talinuhan man ang matching, nauutakan din. [59:21] Tama. Punta tayo ulit doon sa mga mali-maleta na binibigayin ninyo. [59:27] Kanino ba galing yung maleta na dinadala nyo sa bahay at mga lugar na pag-aari ni former Speaker Martin Romualdez? [59:38] Napinsang buo ni Senator Amy Marcos. [59:45] Your Honor, yung mali-maleta po na binibigay po kahit kung sa di gali po sa ibang contractor po, na nauna po na naibigay na po dito. [59:56] Na-establish na natin kung ilang beses sa loob ng isang linggo kayo nagdi-deliver at kung ano ang average na bilang ng maleta at yung nilalaman ng mga maleta na yun. [1:00:15] Na isang araw nga ay hindi makapaniwala yung isa sa amin na parabang physically hindi po pwede na makapag-deliver kayo ng ganong kalaking halaga at parang gumawa pa siya ng parang time motion study. [1:00:28] Impossible ito. Kaya ayaw niya kayong ipatawag dahil hindi siya makapaniwala na yung ganong kalaking pera ay pwede ninyong i-deliver. [1:00:38] Naniniwala ba kayo talagang na-i-deliver ninyo ng buong-buo yung mga sinasabi nyo na nakasulat dito sa inyong pinagsamang salitay? [1:00:48] Ano-anong lugar? Ano-anong addresses? [1:00:53] Isa lang ba ang bahay na pinagdala ninyo sa bahay Martin Romualdez? [1:00:56] O may iba pang mga lugar kagaya ng binabanggit nyo rito. Kailangan ma-record po lahat ito. [1:01:02] Bagamat ito pong binigay na copy ngayon ay magiging party na po ng record ng Blue Ribbon Committee. [1:01:09] Your Honor, yung sa kayo dating speaker Martin Romualdez po, nag-umpisan mo po si Kung Salico sa chairman ng appropriation. [1:01:23] Simula September hanggang natapos yung terminyo niya po. [1:01:30] Ah, slide second na lang po. [1:01:30] Simula September 2022 sa 14 Nara Street po kami nag-deliver hanggang 22-23, December po. [1:01:45] Saan do pong adres? [1:01:46] Ah, 42 Makinley Road. [1:01:48] Makinley. [1:01:49] Pagkaraan ng panahon na iyan, saan naman kayo nag-deliver? [1:01:54] 2024 po hanggang natapos yung termino ni Boss. [1:01:59] Nasa 14 Nara Street na po, South Forbes. [1:02:03] Sa mga katwid, 42 Makinley at saka 14 Nara Street. [1:02:09] Yes, Your Honor. [1:02:09] Ang pinagdalhan ninyo ng mga mali-malita. [1:02:11] Your Honor, doon na po yung pinaka-last na deliveran ng bahay niyo po. [1:02:15] O, pagdating nyo sa mga lugar na iyon, kilala ninyo kung sino yung tumatanggap. [1:02:22] Hindi naman siguro, basta nyo na lang nilagay sa kanyang pagbukas ng pinto, binalibag nyo lang, umalis na kayo. [1:02:32] Meron tumanggap sigurado, tama? [1:02:33] Yes, Your Honor. [1:02:34] Doon sa 42 po, si Mayor Doma niya po, si Ma'am Jocelyn po. [1:02:41] Saka yung iba yung mga katiwala niya po. [1:02:44] Hindi po namin kilala. [1:02:45] Kasi matagal kayo nag-deliver, kaya pati mukha niya nakilala ninyo. [1:02:49] Yes, Your Honor. [1:02:50] Meron pa kayong binabanggit na Mang Edwin? [1:02:55] Hindi ko, ang pamilyar ko sa, hindi ko po pamilyar yung pangalan niya. [1:02:59] Pero sa itsura, kilala ko po. [1:03:00] Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, mabalik lang dun sa delivery sa Ilocos, sabi nyo 2022, at balita, meron kayong mga retrato. [1:03:14] Kung dala ninyo, baka naman pwede ipakita ngayon ang mga foto at video kahit hindi pa sinama sa sinumpaang salaysay. [1:03:22] Your Honor, yung picture lang po namin ni Kung Sandro yun, kasi ayaw pa pictura ni Kung Saldi yung maleta po. [1:03:36] Pero may nakita akong mga picture, kung pwedeng ilabas na rin ngayon para mapatunayan. [1:03:41] Maraming nakikinig at mga Ilocanong abalang-abala. [1:03:50] Bago yun, abang nagahanap si Atty. Baligod, [1:03:54] I'll take advantage of the presence of the lawyer of Mr. Saldico, Atty. Rondain. [1:03:59] Atty. Rondain, dahil nababanggit naman ang pangalan ng kliyente mo, [1:04:07] pwede ko bang malaman mula sa'yo, Atty. [1:04:10] Mr. Chairman, can we administer the O? [1:04:18] Face your right hand. [1:04:22] Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in this procedure? [1:04:27] For the record, Mr. President. [1:04:29] Yes. [1:04:30] Thank you, Mr. President. [1:04:38] Atty. Rondain, pwede ba naming malaman mula sa'yo [1:04:41] kung sa ngayon ay nakapag-execute na ng Apostille Tiltion Statement [1:04:48] si former Congressman Saldico. [1:04:50] Bago ko sabuti niyan, Senador, iklaro ko lang po the record. [1:04:55] Okay. [1:04:55] Nandito ko, hindi para kay Saldico, [1:04:58] kasi dahil nakatanggap ko ako ng mga e-mail [1:05:01] isang araw na addressed to seven individuals. [1:05:06] For the record, Mark Tixay, John Paul Estrada, [1:05:09] Joshua Cano, John Kirby Pajarilla, [1:05:11] Roland Supat, [1:05:13] Atty. Sam Buenviale Stroke, [1:05:15] Sam Buenviaje, [1:05:16] and Arnel Gango. [1:05:19] Natanggap ko ito sa office ko, [1:05:20] care of sa akin. [1:05:22] Pero hindi ko ko kilala ito mga ito. [1:05:23] Hindi ko ko mga kliyente ito mga ito. [1:05:26] Pero naka-receive na rin ako ng similar sa P9 in the past. [1:05:30] Subulat na rin ako sa Blue Ribbon [1:05:33] na sinasabi ko hindi ko kliyente ito. [1:05:35] Pero apparently my name is still on the record. [1:05:38] So I thought na mabuti na magpakita na ako dito. [1:05:40] Mula sa salaysay ng mga inimbita nating mga ex-soldiers, [1:05:49] palaging ito yung nababanggit nila ng mga personal executive assistants [1:05:54] ni former congressman Saldico. [1:05:58] Kaya may nabuti namin na ipatawag din sila. [1:06:01] Siguro dahil for purposes of invitation, [1:06:04] kinakailangan yung address. [1:06:07] Kaya nai-email ka siguro. [1:06:10] Siguro. [1:06:12] Narinig ko na ako yung pangalan ng Mark Tixay [1:06:14] at saka John Paul Estrada. [1:06:15] Pero hindi ko ko sila kilala. [1:06:17] Sa kanilang mga salaysay kasi paulit-ulit [1:06:19] na itong dalawang ito ang unang-una [1:06:22] ay nagbibilang ng pera para ilagay sa maletas. [1:06:27] Ito yung sila yung pinagkakatiwalaan [1:06:30] ni congressman Saldico para sa mga deliveries. [1:06:54] Kaya po sila nababanggit. [1:06:55] Pero ang tanong ko, [1:06:56] dahil sa kayo po ba talaga [1:06:59] ang official na designated na counsel [1:07:02] ni former congressman Saldico? [1:07:05] Yes, we extend that. [1:07:07] So baka naman pwede niyong masagot [1:07:11] kung siya ay nakapaggawanan [1:07:12] ng isang apostille-sorn statement. [1:07:15] Kasi po, [1:07:15] ang blue ribbon po ay interest. [1:07:17] Ay napakarami pong paglalahad [1:07:20] ang ginawa ng inyong kliyente [1:07:22] na ayaw pong bigyan ng importansya [1:07:26] nung nakaraang liderato. [1:07:28] Sa kadahilanan na ito raw pong [1:07:30] mga pinagsasabi niya [1:07:31] ay hindi naman reduced in writing [1:07:33] at hindi naman napinasumpaan [1:07:36] o hindi siya nakapanumpa [1:07:38] sa isang embahada o konsulada [1:07:41] ng ating bansa [1:07:42] kung saan man siya naroon sa Europa. [1:07:44] Minsan po ay nasabi ko sa kanila [1:07:46] na kung inyo pong mamarapatin [1:07:51] ay paalam ko sa inyo [1:07:52] na tayo po ay nakapirma [1:07:54] sa isang treaty [1:07:55] na ginawa rin sa Dihig. [1:07:58] Ito po ay yung apostille convention [1:08:00] na sa ngayon ay nire-recognize [1:08:05] at ginagamit na rin po [1:08:06] sa mga tuntunin [1:08:08] ng ating Korte Suprema. [1:08:10] Ang ibig sabihin po nito [1:08:11] kapag si Ginong Saldico [1:08:13] ay humarap sa isang [1:08:16] may kakayang abogadong magnotaryo [1:08:21] ng kanyang salaysay [1:08:22] at yun ay i-certify na in apostille [1:08:25] yun po ay parang [1:08:27] parang sinumpaan na rin niya [1:08:31] sa harap ng ating Philippine Consulate [1:08:33] o embahada ng ating bansa. [1:08:36] At sa ganon, [1:08:37] tatanggapin po namin yun [1:08:39] kahit by Zoom [1:08:40] pwede siyang makipag-Zoom [1:08:41] para sa ganon mapatibayan po [1:08:43] nating lahat [1:08:45] yung kanyang mga naunang pahayag [1:08:47] sa kanyang mga video messages. [1:08:51] Nasabihan ko na rin siya dyan [1:08:53] nung rinequest ako the first time [1:08:54] sinabihan ko na rin siya [1:08:57] sinabi niya na [1:08:58] at the time [1:08:59] a few months ago [1:08:59] hindi daw niya [1:09:00] prioridad yan [1:09:01] but sasabihin [1:09:02] papaabutin po ulit [1:09:03] yung... [1:09:04] So sa ngayon po [1:09:05] ay wala pa. [1:09:06] Wala ko akong alam [1:09:07] na meron siyang sworn statement. [1:09:10] At maaari po bang [1:09:11] mag-request ang kumite [1:09:12] sa pamamagitan ninyo [1:09:13] na kung siya po [1:09:15] ay makapag-execute [1:09:16] ng isang apostille [1:09:17] na sworn statement [1:09:18] yun po ay tatanggapin namin [1:09:20] sapagkat no less than [1:09:22] the Supreme Court [1:09:23] already incorporated [1:09:24] the apostille convention [1:09:26] into the rules. [1:09:29] I will relay it. [1:09:30] Salamat po, attorney. [1:09:31] Thank you. [1:09:32] So, attorney Baligod... [1:09:35] I'm sorry. [1:09:37] I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. [1:09:38] May I be excused now [1:09:39] since I have nothing [1:09:39] to contribute? [1:09:40] Sige po. [1:09:40] Mr. Chairman, may I... [1:09:41] Sundan ko lang yung request. [1:09:45] Yes, sir. [1:09:46] Of course, the number one request [1:09:47] is kahit by Zoom [1:09:48] kasi iba yung [1:09:49] naku-cross-examine [1:09:50] or nakakapag-clarificatory question. [1:09:53] Number two, yung apostille. [1:09:56] But in the worst case, [1:09:58] halimbawa hindi siya [1:09:59] makapagharap sa isang [1:10:00] consulate natin [1:10:02] dahil delikado din yung [1:10:04] ano niya, [1:10:05] basta't ma-verify lang namin [1:10:07] na galing sa kanya. [1:10:08] Because para itong [1:10:10] isang malaking puzzle eh. [1:10:11] At sa isang malaking puzzle, [1:10:13] kahit pinakamalit na pyesa, [1:10:15] pag nawala, [1:10:15] hindi mo mabubuo. [1:10:17] And it will be unfair [1:10:17] to the Filipino people [1:10:19] kung bubuoy natin [1:10:21] ng konti yung puzzle [1:10:22] tapos ituturo natin. [1:10:23] For example, [1:10:25] kay Senator Jinggoy right now, [1:10:26] di ba? [1:10:27] It's unfair na siya [1:10:28] ang nasa kulungan [1:10:30] tapos malalaman natin [1:10:31] lahat pala itong nangyayari. [1:10:32] So, attorney, [1:10:33] I know we're both lawyers [1:10:35] so we are officers of the court [1:10:36] so we do our best here. [1:10:39] Please do your best then. [1:10:40] And in search of the truth. [1:10:42] I will. [1:10:43] Thank you. [1:10:43] Thank you, [1:10:44] Mr. Chairman. [1:10:47] Thank you. [1:10:50] Thank you, Your Honors. [1:10:50] Attorney Baligod, [1:10:58] dito sa sinumpaang [1:10:59] pinagsama-samang salaysay, [1:11:03] ang ating mga 18 ex-soldiers [1:11:06] ay nagbanggit [1:11:07] ng mga ilang mga katauhan [1:11:10] na sa inyong pagsasalaysay, [1:11:16] nakita ninyo, [1:11:17] nakasama ninyo, [1:11:20] nadalhan pa ng ibang mga maleta. [1:11:24] Ang binabanggit ko pong episode na ito [1:11:28] ay yung may kinalaman [1:11:29] sa pagpunta rito [1:11:31] nung binabanggit ninyo [1:11:33] ng mga ahente [1:11:34] ng International Criminal Court [1:11:38] or ICC. [1:11:40] Sino po sa inyo ngayon [1:11:41] na nakaharap sa amin [1:11:43] ang merong personal na lalaman [1:11:46] tungkol doon sa pangyayaring yun [1:11:49] na may kinalaman [1:11:50] sa pagpunta ng ICC sa ating bansa? [1:11:53] Pwedeng itaas po yung mga kamay. [1:11:55] So, kung sino po yung unang gustong [1:12:01] masalita tungkol sa usaping ito [1:12:03] ay malaya po kayo magpag-umpisa. [1:12:07] Banggitin namang ninyo [1:12:08] ang inyong pangalan. [1:12:11] Your Honor, [1:12:12] ako po ulit si Rose Bertokan. [1:12:16] December 2023, [1:12:19] unang dumating po yung [1:12:21] ang unang pagkakalam po namin [1:12:23] is bisita po ni Boss Elisaldi. [1:12:26] Sino po? [1:12:28] Ang pagkakalam po namin, [1:12:29] sabi po ni Mark Tiksay po [1:12:32] sa amin, [1:12:32] may bisita po ang paparating si Boss [1:12:34] sa mga foreigner [1:12:35] which later on po [1:12:37] nalaman namin na [1:12:39] mga investigator po ng ICC. [1:12:42] Paano po ninyo nalaman [1:12:43] na sila yung mga investigador [1:12:46] na galing sa ICC? [1:12:48] Your Honor, [1:12:50] nakita po namin sa TV po [1:12:52] si Chantal Daniels [1:12:57] nag-apir po doon sa TV po. [1:13:01] Then siya po yung napikturan ko [1:13:03] na in-escortan po namin dito po. [1:13:07] Sino po ang nagbigay sa inyo [1:13:09] ng tungkulin na assistihan ninyo [1:13:12] yung mga ICC investigators? [1:13:17] Paano po nagsimula [1:13:18] ang inyong paglilingkod sa kanila? [1:13:23] December 2023 po, [1:13:25] Your Honor, [1:13:26] dumating po sila dito. [1:13:27] Then bumuo po ng [1:13:28] Team Foreigner Duty [1:13:33] detail po ang team leader namin. [1:13:39] Then sinundo namin sa airport po, [1:13:41] then dinala namin sa Cetadines, Makati [1:13:43] yung unang accommodation po nila. [1:13:46] Paano po ang coordination ninyo? [1:13:47] Kailangan ikwento po ninyo? [1:13:49] Paano ninyo sinusundo? [1:13:50] Sino ang nagbibigay sa inyo [1:13:52] ng utos? [1:13:53] Paano na, [1:13:55] saan nyo sila dadali? [1:13:56] Saan lugar po ninyo dinadala? [1:13:58] Kung ano po yung nakasulat dito, [1:13:59] banggitin po ninyo for the record. [1:14:02] All the time naman po, [1:14:03] kasama namin si Mark Tixay po. [1:14:05] Siya po ang [1:14:06] assistant po ng [1:14:09] mga foreigner po. [1:14:12] Then [1:14:13] yung team leader namin po, [1:14:16] ang sinasabihan niya [1:14:18] kung mayroong mga lakad, [1:14:19] then kami po ang nagpo-provide [1:14:20] ng security po sa kanila. [1:14:23] Sino po pong mga katauhan [1:14:26] ang involved dito sa pagdating [1:14:28] ng tinatawag ninyong [1:14:30] ICC operations? [1:14:33] Ang unang mahalala ko po [1:14:35] na nakamit po nila [1:14:36] si Sen. Trelyanes po [1:14:39] sa Ducitani. [1:14:41] Ang una po nilang [1:14:41] nakamit na tao po dito [1:14:43] pagdating nila si... [1:14:44] Sino po yung sila? [1:14:45] Yung ICC po. [1:14:47] Yung mga foreigner. [1:14:48] Nung mag-meeting si [1:14:50] dating Sen. Trelyanes, [1:14:52] kamiting niya yung [1:14:53] mga operators ng ICC, [1:14:55] nakita niyo po sila? [1:14:57] Yes, Your Honor. [1:14:58] Kasi nung pag-atid namin doon [1:14:59] sa closed-door meeting po [1:15:01] kasi yun sa Ducitani, [1:15:03] si Sen. Trelyanes po [1:15:05] yung sumalubong sa mga foreigner. [1:15:11] Sir President, [1:15:12] if we can get the date [1:15:13] later on [1:15:14] and then request [1:15:15] from that hotel [1:15:16] their CCTV footages. [1:15:18] So, as Sen. Lacson [1:15:21] always says, [1:15:22] dapat sundan yung ebidensya. [1:15:24] So, hindi ko na ulit-ulitin [1:15:26] kasi baka makapaghanda [1:15:27] yung iba. [1:15:28] But, take note lang [1:15:29] ng staff natin. [1:15:30] May binanggit silang detalye [1:15:32] at kaya nating [1:15:33] sundan sa ebidensya. [1:15:36] That will either prove [1:15:37] or disprove [1:15:39] yung sinasabi [1:15:41] ng ating mga resource persons. [1:15:42] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:15:44] Salamat po. [1:15:45] Meron kayong binabanggit [1:15:46] sa parte [1:15:47] ng inyong sworn statement [1:15:48] na meron pang kinalaman [1:15:50] hindi lamang [1:15:51] si dating Sen. Trelyanes, [1:15:54] kasama pa rin [1:15:54] si dating Congressman Saldico [1:15:57] at si dating Speaker [1:15:59] Martin Romualdez. [1:16:01] At meron kayong lugar [1:16:02] na binabanggit [1:16:03] saan sila nagkikita. [1:16:05] Pwede ba ninyong [1:16:05] ikwento ito? [1:16:06] Pagkatapos po noon [1:16:10] nakamiting po [1:16:12] ng mga foreigner [1:16:13] po sa Ducitane [1:16:14] si Sen. Trelyanes. [1:16:17] Mga ilang araw po [1:16:17] na-meet din po [1:16:18] ng mga foreigner [1:16:19] si dating Speaker [1:16:21] Romualdez, [1:16:22] si Boss [1:16:22] sa El Saldico [1:16:23] sa townhouse po. [1:16:26] Then kasama rin po [1:16:27] si Sen. Trelyanes doon. [1:16:29] Unit 9 [1:16:30] townhouse [1:16:31] sa may [1:16:33] Makidli po. [1:16:36] Dito sa parte [1:16:37] ng inyong salaysay [1:16:38] ay dinitalya pa ninyo [1:16:39] yung inyong [1:16:40] daily routine [1:16:42] detail. [1:16:42] Hindi lamang [1:16:44] bilang driver, [1:16:45] merong security, [1:16:47] merong kayong [1:16:48] team leader. [1:16:55] Masyadong detalyado [1:16:57] ang pagkaka-explikan nyo rito. [1:16:59] Ibig sabihin talaga [1:17:00] may nakatutok [1:17:01] na driver, [1:17:04] team leader, [1:17:05] security [1:17:05] para sa operators [1:17:07] ng ICC. [1:17:09] Napaka-importante [1:17:10] nilang mga tao [1:17:11] na dumating [1:17:11] sa ating bansa. [1:17:13] Alam ba ninyo [1:17:14] kung ano ang pakay nila? [1:17:17] Meron bang nagbanggit [1:17:18] sa inyo [1:17:19] kung bakit [1:17:19] ganun na lamang [1:17:20] ang pagpapalaga [1:17:22] at ang importansyang [1:17:23] ibinigay [1:17:24] ni Sen. Trelyanes, [1:17:26] ni Saldico [1:17:27] at saka ni [1:17:28] former Speaker [1:17:30] Martino Romualdez? [1:17:32] Noong una po [1:17:32] wala po kami [1:17:33] ang idea. [1:17:35] Pagkaraan, [1:17:36] may idea ka na. [1:17:37] Yes po. [1:17:37] Basta ang sinabi [1:17:38] lang sa akin noon, [1:17:39] Sir, [1:17:39] mag-provide kami [1:17:40] ng security [1:17:41] kasi bisita po ito [1:17:42] ni Boss [1:17:42] Saldico. [1:17:45] Meron kayong binanggit [1:17:46] na maleta [1:17:46] patungkol dito [1:17:49] sa operations [1:17:50] ng ICC. [1:17:52] Ikuwento ninyo [1:17:53] kung paano [1:17:54] nag-operate [1:17:55] ang maleta [1:17:56] dito [1:17:57] sa mga [1:17:59] tawuhan ng ICC [1:18:00] na nagpunta [1:18:00] sa ating bansa. [1:18:01] Your Honor [1:18:03] ako po si [1:18:03] Evel Nartube. [1:18:05] From Horizon po, [1:18:07] nag-advise po si Boss [1:18:08] magpapalit kami [1:18:09] ng piso [1:18:09] to dollar [1:18:10] na dalawang maleta [1:18:11] doon sa [1:18:13] Makati po. [1:18:13] Bibili kayo [1:18:14] ng US dollar? [1:18:16] Yes, [1:18:16] Yes, [1:18:16] Your Honor. [1:18:17] Dinala po namin [1:18:18] ito sa [1:18:18] Perbank, [1:18:19] Makati, [1:18:20] Salcedo, [1:18:20] Bilitz po. [1:18:22] Dalawang maleta [1:18:23] worth of [1:18:23] 50 to 60 [1:18:27] M po [1:18:28] ang laman. [1:18:29] 50 to 60 [1:18:30] M [1:18:30] pesos [1:18:31] ipapalit nyo [1:18:33] sa US dollar. [1:18:34] Anong [1:18:35] bank ko [1:18:35] sa Makati? [1:18:36] Perbank po [1:18:37] yung Building [1:18:38] Your Honor [1:18:38] 146 [1:18:39] sa Salcedo. [1:18:41] Hindi siya [1:18:42] bank ko, [1:18:42] sir. [1:18:43] Parang [1:18:43] money changer [1:18:44] sa [1:18:44] di ko [1:18:45] ma-dedify [1:18:45] kung [1:18:46] ano po [1:18:46] yung [1:18:46] rooms [1:18:46] sa taas [1:18:47] kasi [1:18:47] marami po [1:18:49] ano [1:18:49] isang [1:18:50] beses lang [1:18:50] po kami [1:18:51] nag-deliver. [1:18:52] So, [1:18:52] hindi nyo [1:18:52] alam [1:18:53] kung [1:18:53] bank ko [1:18:53] o [1:18:54] money [1:18:54] changer? [1:18:55] Money [1:18:55] changer [1:18:55] po, [1:18:55] sir. [1:18:56] Kasi [1:18:56] through [1:18:57] contact [1:18:57] po yung [1:18:58] kailangan [1:18:58] pumasok [1:18:59] kasi [1:18:59] malaking [1:18:59] nalaga [1:19:00] po yung [1:19:00] pinapalit [1:19:02] namin, [1:19:02] sir. [1:19:04] After [1:19:04] nun, [1:19:04] sir, [1:19:05] alam mo ba [1:19:05] dahilan kung [1:19:06] bakit [1:19:06] hindi sila [1:19:07] dumaan [1:19:07] sa bank ko [1:19:08] at sa [1:19:08] money [1:19:08] changer [1:19:09] na lang [1:19:09] dumaan? [1:19:12] Siguro, [1:19:12] sir, [1:19:12] sa laki din [1:19:13] ng figure [1:19:14] po, [1:19:14] sir. [1:19:14] Hindi [1:19:15] lamang [1:19:15] yun, [1:19:15] yung [1:19:16] pinaka-importante. [1:19:18] Bakit [1:19:19] hindi [1:19:19] sa bank ko [1:19:20] siya [1:19:20] dumaan [1:19:20] at [1:19:21] dumaan [1:19:22] siya [1:19:22] sa [1:19:22] money [1:19:22] changer? [1:19:25] Para [1:19:25] hindi [1:19:25] po [1:19:26] matrace [1:19:26] na [1:19:27] ganun [1:19:27] malalain. [1:19:29] After [1:19:29] that, [1:19:29] sir, [1:19:29] napalit [1:19:31] na namin [1:19:31] ng piso [1:19:31] to dollar, [1:19:32] so isang [1:19:32] maleta [1:19:33] na lang [1:19:33] po yung [1:19:33] kapalit [1:19:34] binaba [1:19:34] namin [1:19:34] sa ban. [1:19:36] Kaling [1:19:36] ninyo [1:19:36] binigay? [1:19:38] After [1:19:38] po [1:19:38] nang [1:19:38] sir, [1:19:38] binalik [1:19:39] namin [1:19:39] sa horizon, [1:19:40] narinig [1:19:40] ko po, [1:19:41] sir, [1:19:43] ibibigay [1:19:43] po [1:19:43] ito [1:19:43] kay [1:19:43] speaker. [1:19:45] Yun [1:19:45] na [1:19:45] po [1:19:46] siguro [1:19:46] yung [1:19:46] kamiting [1:19:46] nila [1:19:47] kong [1:19:48] senator [1:19:49] Trillianis [1:19:50] po. [1:19:50] Doon [1:19:51] na [1:19:51] po [1:19:51] siyong [1:19:51] ano [1:19:52] po. [1:19:52] Kasi [1:19:52] kung [1:19:53] pinalit [1:19:53] mo [1:19:53] ng [1:19:53] dollar, [1:19:56] gagamitin [1:19:56] ng [1:19:57] hindi [1:19:57] Pilipino, [1:19:58] di ba? [1:19:58] Kasi [1:19:58] tayo, [1:19:59] ang gamit [1:19:59] natin, [1:20:00] sarili [1:20:00] nating [1:20:00] pera. [1:20:01] Tama [1:20:01] ba [1:20:01] yun? [1:20:02] Yes, [1:20:02] sir, [1:20:02] honor. [1:20:06] Marami [1:20:07] kayong [1:20:07] mga [1:20:07] litrato [1:20:09] dito [1:20:10] sa inyong [1:20:10] pinagsamang [1:20:11] salaysay. [1:20:11] Sino [1:20:11] ang kumuha [1:20:12] sa inyo [1:20:12] dito [1:20:14] sa mga [1:20:15] taong [1:20:15] operators [1:20:16] ng [1:20:16] ICC [1:20:17] na [1:20:17] inyong [1:20:18] pinatitibayan [1:20:19] na talagang [1:20:20] nagsidating [1:20:20] dito [1:20:21] at inyong [1:20:22] inistima [1:20:23] at dinala [1:20:24] sa mga [1:20:24] lugar na [1:20:25] kung saan [1:20:25] silang [1:20:26] magpupulong [1:20:26] at [1:20:28] ang [1:20:28] ipangayata [1:20:29] ay [1:20:29] sinusundupan [1:20:30] ninyo [1:20:30] ang mga [1:20:31] taong [1:20:31] kakausapin [1:20:32] nila [1:20:32] base [1:20:33] dito [1:20:33] sa [1:20:33] pagkakaintindi [1:20:34] ko [1:20:34] sa [1:20:35] inyong [1:20:36] paglalahad [1:20:37] dito. [1:20:37] Tama ba? [1:20:40] Yes, [1:20:40] sir, [1:20:41] honor. [1:20:41] Ako po [1:20:41] yung [1:20:42] kumuha [1:20:42] ng mga [1:20:42] litrato. [1:20:43] Yung mga [1:20:45] taong [1:20:45] kakausapin [1:20:46] nila [1:20:46] sa [1:20:47] araw-araw [1:20:47] base [1:20:48] sa [1:20:48] schedule [1:20:48] na [1:20:49] inyong [1:20:49] inilahad [1:20:50] dito [1:20:50] sa inyong [1:20:51] salaysay. [1:20:53] Si [1:20:53] Mark [1:20:53] tiksay po [1:20:54] yung [1:20:54] may [1:20:55] contact [1:20:55] yung [1:20:56] mga [1:20:57] kamiting [1:20:57] nila. [1:20:58] Pero [1:20:59] nakikita [1:20:59] ninyo [1:21:00] kung sino [1:21:00] yung [1:21:00] mga [1:21:00] taong [1:21:01] sinusundunin [1:21:02] nyo [1:21:02] na [1:21:02] kanilang [1:21:02] kakausapin? [1:21:03] Yes, [1:21:04] sir, [1:21:04] honor. [1:21:06] Ilan [1:21:06] ang [1:21:06] mga [1:21:07] taong [1:21:07] nakausap [1:21:08] nila [1:21:08] magsimula [1:21:09] nung [1:21:09] pumunta [1:21:10] sila [1:21:10] rito [1:21:10] hanggang [1:21:11] sila [1:21:11] matapos [1:21:12] ng [1:21:12] operasyon [1:21:13] at [1:21:13] sila [1:21:13] nakauwi? [1:21:15] Nung [1:21:15] unang [1:21:16] dating [1:21:17] nila [1:21:17] ng [1:21:17] December [1:21:18] 2023, [1:21:19] your [1:21:19] honor, [1:21:21] dalawang [1:21:21] beses [1:21:22] lang po [1:21:22] yung [1:21:22] activity [1:21:23] na [1:21:23] ginawa [1:21:23] nila [1:21:24] yung [1:21:24] na-meet [1:21:24] po [1:21:24] nila [1:21:24] si [1:21:25] San [1:21:25] Etralianes [1:21:25] then [1:21:26] yung [1:21:26] pumunta [1:21:26] po [1:21:26] sila [1:21:27] sa [1:21:27] townhouse [1:21:27] then [1:21:28] bumalik [1:21:29] po [1:21:29] sila [1:21:30] October [1:21:31] 2024, [1:21:32] your [1:21:32] honor. [1:21:33] Then [1:21:33] doon [1:21:34] na [1:21:34] po [1:21:34] namin [1:21:34] nakita [1:21:34] ang [1:21:36] sunod-sunod [1:21:36] na [1:21:36] activity [1:21:37] namin [1:21:37] doon [1:21:37] sa [1:21:38] Maydas [1:21:38] kasi [1:21:38] yun [1:21:39] po [1:21:39] ang [1:21:39] ginawa [1:21:39] nilang [1:21:40] venue [1:21:41] po [1:21:41] ng [1:21:41] investigation [1:21:42] your [1:21:43] honor [1:21:43] ng [1:21:43] mga [1:21:43] foreigner. [1:21:44] Nakita [1:21:45] po [1:21:45] namin [1:21:56] ni Jed [1:21:57] Mabilog [1:21:58] po. [1:21:59] Ako po [1:21:59] ang nagsundo [1:21:59] sa [1:22:00] lobby [1:22:01] po [1:22:01] ng [1:22:01] Maydas [1:22:02] then [1:22:02] inakyat [1:22:03] po [1:22:03] sa [1:22:03] 10th [1:22:05] floor [1:22:05] kung saan [1:22:06] nandun [1:22:06] po [1:22:06] ang mga [1:22:07] foreigner. [1:22:08] Salamat po [1:22:13] sa inyong [1:22:13] sagot. [1:22:15] Balikan po [1:22:16] natin [1:22:17] sapagat [1:22:17] napaka [1:22:18] importante [1:22:18] po [1:22:19] ng [1:22:19] pugnayan [1:22:21] ng [1:22:22] Maleta [1:22:23] mula [1:22:24] sa [1:22:24] kay [1:22:25] Saldico [1:22:25] hanggang [1:22:26] sa [1:22:26] mga [1:22:27] bahay [1:22:28] at [1:22:28] lugar [1:22:29] na [1:22:29] pag-aari [1:22:30] ni [1:22:31] former [1:22:31] Speaker [1:22:31] Martin [1:22:32] Romualdez. [1:22:34] Gusto kong [1:22:34] magsalita [1:22:35] yung [1:22:36] iba. [1:22:37] Alam kong [1:22:37] may kanya-kanya [1:22:38] kayong [1:22:39] kasaysayan [1:22:45] na sasabihin. [1:22:46] Meron kayong [1:22:47] karanasan [1:22:48] na sasabihin. [1:22:49] Maaring [1:22:50] iba-iba [1:22:50] ang pagkakakita [1:22:51] nyo [1:22:51] ngunit [1:22:51] alam ko [1:22:52] yan [1:22:52] ay magtutugma. [1:22:55] Kung paano [1:22:56] ninyo [1:22:56] nadideliver, [1:22:57] paano [1:22:57] ninyo [1:22:57] inahandle, [1:22:59] saan kayo [1:22:59] nagsisimula, [1:23:00] saan kayo [1:23:01] natatapos, [1:23:03] anong [1:23:03] pangyayari [1:23:04] sa isang [1:23:04] araw [1:23:05] ng pagdidelivery. [1:23:06] Bawat [1:23:06] isa [1:23:06] sa inyo [1:23:07] ay [1:23:07] kinakailangan [1:23:08] din magsalita [1:23:09] ng sarili [1:23:10] niyang [1:23:10] karanasan [1:23:10] tungkol [1:23:11] dito [1:23:11] sa pagdadala [1:23:12] ng mali-maletang [1:23:13] pera. [1:23:14] Ang mali-maletang [1:23:15] perang ito po [1:23:16] ay hindi [1:23:17] po sa kanila. [1:23:18] Ito po [1:23:19] ay pera [1:23:19] ng taong [1:23:20] bayan. [1:23:23] Ito po [1:23:24] ay pera [1:23:24] ng taong [1:23:25] bayan [1:23:25] na ginawa [1:23:26] po nilang [1:23:26] sariling [1:23:27] ATM. [1:23:29] Kaya [1:23:29] kailangan [1:23:29] po kayo [1:23:30] magsalita. [1:23:32] Sir [1:23:32] Chairman, [1:23:33] can a [1:23:33] specific [1:23:34] question [1:23:34] bago [1:23:34] nyo [1:23:35] ikwento [1:23:35] lahat [1:23:35] with your [1:23:36] permission? [1:23:37] First [1:23:37] muna [1:23:37] dun sa [1:23:38] possible [1:23:39] na mga [1:23:40] taga [1:23:40] ICC. [1:23:41] Si [1:23:41] Senator [1:23:42] Iminong [1:23:44] siya [1:23:44] nag-chair [1:23:45] ng [1:23:45] Foreign [1:23:46] Affairs [1:23:46] Committee, [1:23:47] you [1:23:47] actually [1:23:47] monitored [1:23:48] some [1:23:48] of [1:23:48] them [1:23:49] here. [1:23:50] So [1:23:50] mamaya [1:23:50] kung [1:23:50] pwede [1:23:51] pagtagpi [1:23:51] natin [1:23:52] yung [1:23:52] dates [1:23:52] and [1:23:53] if [1:23:53] we [1:23:53] can [1:23:53] get [1:23:53] the [1:23:54] names [1:23:54] kasi [1:23:54] I [1:23:54] think [1:23:55] it [1:23:55] would [1:23:55] be [1:23:56] important [1:23:56] for [1:23:57] the [1:23:57] credibility [1:23:57] of [1:23:58] the [1:23:58] ICC [1:23:59] kung [1:24:00] masubmit [1:24:00] natin [1:24:00] sa [1:24:01] kanila [1:24:01] sino [1:24:01] sino [1:24:02] mga [1:24:02] to [1:24:02] ano [1:24:02] nangyari. [1:24:03] Kasi [1:24:03] parang [1:24:04] simple [1:24:05] lang [1:24:05] sagot [1:24:06] parati [1:24:06] na [1:24:06] invento [1:24:07] lang yan [1:24:07] but [1:24:08] again [1:24:09] may [1:24:09] resibo [1:24:10] sundan [1:24:10] natin. [1:24:11] Number [1:24:12] two [1:24:12] Mr. Chairman [1:24:12] before we [1:24:13] go to [1:24:13] that [1:24:13] general [1:24:14] question [1:24:14] na [1:24:15] pag [1:24:15] deliver [1:24:15] kanina [1:24:17] nakilala [1:24:17] na natin [1:24:18] po [1:24:18] si [1:24:18] Sergeant [1:24:19] Tube [1:24:20] Sino [1:24:22] si [1:24:22] Bulon [1:24:24] Tate [1:24:24] tapos [1:24:26] Orbilio [1:24:27] So [1:24:28] sir [1:24:28] kayo [1:24:29] yung [1:24:29] nasa [1:24:30] nakilagay [1:24:30] dito [1:24:30] kasi [1:24:31] I'll [1:24:32] just [1:24:32] give [1:24:32] the [1:24:32] context [1:24:33] no [1:24:33] nung [1:24:33] February [1:24:33] pa [1:24:34] dapat [1:24:34] magpapalitan [1:24:35] ng [1:24:35] Senate [1:24:35] President [1:24:35] at [1:24:37] dapat [1:24:37] to [1:24:37] napunta [1:24:38] kay [1:24:38] Senator [1:24:38] Lauren [1:24:39] Legarda [1:24:39] pero [1:24:40] nakatanggap [1:24:41] kami [1:24:41] ng [1:24:42] mga [1:24:43] tawag [1:24:43] at [1:24:44] doon [1:24:44] sinasabi [1:24:45] hindi [1:24:46] maaresto [1:24:46] si [1:24:47] Senator [1:24:47] Jingoy [1:24:49] hindi [1:24:50] magkakakaso [1:24:51] wag lang [1:24:51] siyang [1:24:51] sumama [1:24:52] narinig [1:24:55] ko mismo [1:24:56] yung [1:24:56] conversation [1:24:56] pero [1:24:58] may kasama [1:24:59] pa kasi [1:24:59] kaming [1:25:00] isang [1:25:00] senador [1:25:01] na [1:25:02] siya [1:25:02] din [1:25:02] ang [1:25:02] nag-decide [1:25:03] na wag [1:25:03] nang [1:25:03] ituloy [1:25:04] yung [1:25:04] pagpapalitan [1:25:05] at [1:25:06] netong [1:25:07] ako na [1:25:07] kausap [1:25:08] ko siya [1:25:09] payag [1:25:10] siya [1:25:10] pag [1:25:10] number [1:25:11] 14 [1:25:11] siya [1:25:12] number [1:25:12] 13 [1:25:12] senator [1:25:13] ba [1:25:13] ito [1:25:13] ba't [1:25:13] tinatanong [1:25:14] ko [1:25:14] siya [1:25:14] kasi [1:25:14] wala [1:25:14] naman [1:25:14] siyang [1:25:14] kaso [1:25:15] so [1:25:16] tinatanong [1:25:16] ko [1:25:16] siya [1:25:16] na [1:25:17] senador [1:25:17] bro [1:25:17] wala [1:25:19] ka [1:25:20] namang [1:25:20] kaso [1:25:20] bakit [1:25:21] ka [1:25:21] tinatakot [1:25:22] tapos [1:25:22] sabi [1:25:22] nga [1:25:22] niya [1:25:23] na [1:25:23] kita [1:25:24] mo [1:25:24] naman [1:25:24] sa [1:25:24] blue [1:25:24] ribbon [1:25:25] banggitin [1:25:26] ka [1:25:26] lang [1:25:26] patay [1:25:26] ka [1:25:27] na [1:25:27] at [1:25:28] itong [1:25:28] ginagawa [1:25:29] nila [1:25:29] Senator [1:25:29] Lacson [1:25:30] nila [1:25:30] SP [1:25:30] Soto [1:25:31] mabigat [1:25:32] so [1:25:32] ang [1:25:32] kinatatakot [1:25:33] din [1:25:33] niya [1:25:33] wala [1:25:34] naman [1:25:34] siyang [1:25:34] kaso [1:25:34] wala [1:25:34] naman [1:25:35] I [1:25:35] can [1:25:36] back [1:25:36] up [1:25:37] this [1:25:37] what [1:25:38] I'm [1:25:38] saying [1:25:38] but [1:25:39] nagulat [1:25:40] ako [1:25:40] dito [1:25:40] po [1:25:41] sa [1:25:41] letter [1:25:41] E42 [1:25:42] nakalagay [1:25:43] dito 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okay [1:26:21] na [1:26:21] yung [1:26:21] area [1:26:22] nariko [1:26:22] na [1:26:22] namin [1:26:22] pagdating [1:26:23] nila [1:26:23] ako [1:26:24] nag [1:26:25] guide [1:26:25] po [1:26:25] dun [1:26:25] sa [1:26:25] baba [1:26:26] may [1:26:27] basement [1:26:28] sa [1:26:28] gilid [1:26:29] po [1:26:29] dumirit [1:26:31] siya [1:26:31] yung [1:26:31] limon [1:26:32] ni [1:26:33] boss [1:26:33] umikot [1:26:34] tapos [1:26:34] nag [1:26:35] drop [1:26:35] off [1:26:35] tapos [1:26:36] makya [1:26:38] sa [1:26:38] prangang [1:26:39] nagdanan [1:26:40] your [1:26:40] honor [1:26:40] tapos [1:26:42] may [1:26:42] elevator [1:26:43] tasama [1:26:44] niya [1:26:44] po [1:26:44] si [1:26:45] ae [1:26:46] mark [1:26:47] saka [1:26:47] si [1:26:47] paul [1:26:48] saka [1:26:48] yung [1:26:49] iso [1:26:50] niya [1:26:50] po [1:26:50] niya [1:26:51] si [1:26:51] police [1:26:51] major [1:26:54] ditsyoso [1:26:55] po [1:26:55] tapos [1:26:57] noon [1:26:57] pasakay [1:26:58] si [1:26:58] 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Representatives [1:35:07] Manix [1:35:08] Delipe [1:35:09] House [1:35:09] of [1:35:09] Representatives [1:35:10] Ito [1:35:11] nga [1:35:11] si [1:35:12] Laila [1:35:12] Dilima [1:35:13] Townhouse [1:35:14] din niya [1:35:14] kinuha [1:35:15] Dan [1:35:16] Fernandez [1:35:17] House [1:35:17] of [1:35:17] Representatives [1:35:18] Townhouse [1:35:19] Janet [1:35:19] Garin [1:35:20] House [1:35:20] of [1:35:20] Representatives [1:35:21] Townhouse [1:35:22] Don [1:35:23] Gonzales [1:35:24] Townhouse [1:35:25] Jay [1:35:26] Kong [1:35:26] Hoon [1:35:26] House [1:35:27] of [1:35:27] Representatives [1:35:28] Townhouse [1:35:29] Jervil Luistro, House of Representatives. Raul Manuel, House of Representatives and Townhouse. Ito yung mga anong makabayan group na sinasabi ni Senate President kanina. Raul Manuel, Franz Castro, Arlene Brosas. Ito yung makabayan black. [1:35:56] Na kapag nagsasalita sila sa House of Representatives, matagal ko po silang nakasama roon eh. Wala nang ginawang mabuti ang gobyerno. Palagi sila na lang mabuti. Na parang sila, ay ngayon pala eh, di ko sinasabing totoo lahat ito. Kaya kayo nandito para patibayan ninyo, para tindigan ninyo na totoo lahat ang sinabi nyo rito. [1:36:18] So, Sandro Marcos, Forbes Park. Paolo Ortega, House of Representatives. Joseph Padduano, House of Representatives, Townhouse. Stella Kimbo, House of Representatives, Townhouse and Residence. J.J. Suarez, House of Representatives. Erwin Tulpo, Green Hills, House of Representatives. [1:36:51] Itong lahat po na binanggit ninyo na mga ngayon ay naglilingkod na miyembro ng House of Representatives, yung iba naman ay wala na, kailangan mapatibayan natin sa magitan ng inyong individual o sama-samang paglalahat ng salapi na kailangan natin mapatunayan ngayon. [1:37:26] Sino ang gusto magsimula? Kailangan mapatibayan natin lahat ito. [1:37:29] Your Honor, itong mga dating mga sundalo natin ay meron silang na-share sa akin na screen capture ng kanilang chat group. [1:37:44] Kasi ang nangyayari po noon, may chat group sila pera sa isang personalidad ay kinukuha na nila ng picture at ipinapasa sa chat group nila. [1:37:56] Pag nakita po yun ni Ginoong Zaltiko, forward niya doon sa recipient at sinasabi, okay na ako sa'yo ha, etc. [1:38:04] Pero kung kasama mismo si Ginoong Zaltiko sa pag-deliver, hindi na nila napipicturan. [1:38:09] Hindi, yun lamang maski na yun, pwedeng tanggapin ng committee. [1:38:13] Dahil ang importante lang, mapatibayan natin na itong mga taong binanggit natin ngayong umaga, [1:38:20] sapagkat ito naman ay nasusulat sa inyong pinagsama-samang salaysay, [1:38:24] merong mapagbabatayang... [1:38:28] Ito po noon, noong April 8, Tuesday po ito, may nag-text yung si Police Captain Alvin Nugid, [1:38:39] yung parang team leader po nila. [1:38:41] Sabi niya, Franz Castro, saka Arlene Brosas, dito na sila sir. [1:38:49] Tapos may sagot sir, may kasama pa daw sila, continue daw. [1:38:53] Pabado na lang sir sa tropa sa baba. [1:38:57] And then may naipasa rin nga sa akin isang picture ni Congresswoman Brosas [1:39:02] doon sa opisina ni Congressman Zaltiko. [1:39:06] So si Congresswoman... [1:39:08] So lahat ng nabanggit nating mga public figures ngayon, [1:39:15] merong mga confirmatory na ebidensya sa chat ninyo, kung hindi man litrato, [1:39:23] confirming that all of them received these kickbacks. [1:39:30] Yung pag-receive po ng kickback, sabi ko pinapadala sa chat group nila. [1:39:34] Yun na, merong coverage na chat group report, kung ano man ang tawag ninyo, [1:39:41] para mapatunayan natin isa-isang mga ito na nakatanggap ng kickback. [1:39:47] Hindi po exactly na one-on-one correspondence po. [1:39:52] Dahil yung iba po na nakapture nila sa screenshots, through screenshots, [1:39:58] e nakuha po sa telepono ng iba. [1:40:00] Pero may naiwan din po sa iba na may bibigay po namin sa inyo. [1:40:04] I think ang ibig sabihin ni Chairman, katulad nung nagtanong ako kay Sen. Tito Soto, [1:40:09] allegedly, sinagot nung tatlo, or dalawa tatlo, nung tinanong ko kay Sen. Irwin. [1:40:15] So I think kung sino lang may personal knowledge dun sa iba. [1:40:19] But just one comment lang, Mr. Chair, and appeal to sa Armed Forces of the Philippines. [1:40:24] Alam niyo po, hindi biro po yung namamatayan ang sundalo. [1:40:29] So, akala natin pag namatayan yung sundalo, kompleto yung pondo para sa kanyang byuda, [1:40:36] or kung babae siya para sa kanyang na-byudo at yung mga anak. [1:40:40] Remember, kung namatayan ng tinyente, hindi makukuha nung kanyang byuda yung sweldo na bilang colonel or bilang general. [1:40:50] I mean, and yung anak, hindi na makakausap yung kanyang tatay o nanay. [1:40:55] The reason why I say this is because the progressive group have been consistent in trying to get the NTF-ELCAC abolished. [1:41:03] And they have been very consistent na dapat walang mga pondo para sa ilan mga lugar sa Pilipinas at NTF-ELCAC. [1:41:12] Marami silang accusation dito. [1:41:15] So, napakasakit naman kung nasa Biyerno pala ginagamit yung nakaw na pera para bigyan itong mga individual na ito. [1:41:25] Tapos mga individual na ito ay ina-advocate na mawala yung NTF-ELCAC na kusaan tuloy-tuloy po ang mga casualty ng mga alagad ng batas. [1:41:38] Maging police yan. [1:41:39] So, right now, I don't know kung may susunod sa amin kapag nagbigay kami ng directive, whether sa ombudsman, DOJ or AFP. [1:41:49] But ako, sa mga nakikinig sa AFP ngayon, lalo sa intelligence, i-verify nyo rin ito. [1:41:55] Kasi para tayong loko na kayo, inutosan namin na ipagtanggol ang bansa laban sa armed conflict, [1:42:02] laban sa napakatagal ng laban sa armed conflict sa ilan mga komunista. [1:42:08] Tapos yung pala, tayo din, sa buwis din pala natin pinupondohan yung mga advocate na itigil nyo naman yung laban. [1:42:19] Diba parang the right hand is saying, alay mo buhay mo para sa bansa. [1:42:25] Yung kaliwang kamay naman, nagbibigay ng pera dun sa lumalaban. [1:42:28] So, it's just crazy, Mr. President. [1:42:33] So, I hope the AFP intelligence look into this. [1:42:37] This is not just a matter of truth in the sense of anti-graph and corruption. [1:42:41] This is a matter of survival, of existence, of life or death sa ating mga alagad ng batas, sa ating AFP at PNP. [1:42:48] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:42:51] Salamat, Mr. SP. [1:42:56] Balikan ko po yung aking naunang tanong sa inyo kung individually meron kayong gustong isalaysay [1:43:03] na hindi naman inconsistent dun sa inyong pinirmahan na samasamang salaysay. [1:43:09] Nauukol po sa pag-deliver nyo ng pera, kung kanino, ilan ang dinideliver, [1:43:15] papano diniliver, anong ginamit sa pag-deliver, kanino napunta. [1:43:19] Yun lamang po, para sa ganun, malaman natin na nagkakaisa kayo hanggang sa magawa ninyo ang pinagsama-samang salaysay. [1:43:32] Unahin po niyong banggitin ang pangalan ninyo. [1:43:35] Julie Kajaw, Sir. [1:43:38] Sir, outside duty po ako sa isang PR na si Father Flabi ay inatiran ko ng pera doon sa Minidaw. [1:43:52] Isang sobre yun, Sir? [1:43:56] Julie Kajaw, Sir. Julie Kajaw. [1:43:58] Hindi, yung dinalhan po ninyo ng pera. [1:44:00] Si Father Flabi, Bilanueva. [1:44:06] Tapos, Sir, mayroong, ano doon, Sir? [1:44:09] Anong lugar po yun? [1:44:10] Sa Minidawab, sa mismo simbahan niya, Sir. [1:44:13] Sa may gilid ng kalsada. [1:44:15] Bakit po kayo nagdala ng pera doon sa pare? [1:44:20] Kasi, Sir, pang, hindi ko ano, Sir, pang ano nila yun, Sir, eh. [1:44:25] Basta nagdala na kami ng pera, Sir, tapos doon sa 33 Clemente. [1:44:29] Maleta din ba? Bidinala mo? [1:44:31] Isang sobre, Sir, tapos doon, Sir, sa 33 Clemente. [1:44:38] Baka naman sulat lang pinadala sa iso sobre. [1:44:40] Pero, Sir, kita ko mismo, Sir. [1:44:42] Sobre lang? [1:44:43] Ay, Sir. Tapos sa 33 Clemente, Sir, isang maleta. [1:44:47] Ganino? [1:44:48] Kay Father Flabi, binuwat ko papunta sa sakyan niya. [1:44:52] So may isang sobre at isang maleta? [1:44:54] Ay, Sir. [1:44:54] Yun ang nari-recall mo? [1:44:55] Ay, Sir. [1:44:57] Hapon yun, Sir, hapon. Tapos yung suot niya, Sir, itim na pangpare. [1:45:03] Yung pangpare yung ano niya. [1:45:04] Nung iabot mo, nakasuot siya ng pangpare. [1:45:08] Ay, Sir. Yung pare na itim, Sir, na siusot ng mga pare. [1:45:12] Paano mo naalaman na siya nga yung... [1:45:17] Nakikita ko, Sir, kasi pumotok na yung ano, Sir, yung ano doon, yung sa EGQ, na nalaman ko si Father Flabi. [1:45:27] Bukod sa kanya, sino pa ang pinagdalhan mo ng pera? Yung experience mo? [1:45:32] Si Terry Redon, Sir. Nakikita ko, Sir, yung sasakyan niya, BMW yun, Sir, eh. [1:45:39] Terry Redon, yung congressman ngayon? [1:45:41] Yes, Sir. [1:45:41] Ilang maliit na naman ang binigay mo? [1:45:44] Isang maliit din, Sir. [1:45:45] Saan mo binigay? [1:45:47] Galing 8th floor, Sir, sa Kison City, building sa President Tower, binaba doon, Sir. [1:45:55] Sinakaysa sa sasakyan niya, Sir? [1:45:57] Siyang pumunta doon? [1:45:58] Ay, Sir. Kilala ko, Sir, eh. [1:45:59] Mr. Chairman, may I mention this lang dahil importante, itong breaking news. [1:46:09] Sabi ng inquirer that breaking, NBI Director Melvin Matibag has revealed that NBI received information that former congressman Mike Defensor allegedly bribed the 18 ex-marines, 5 million, to provide, 5 million lang nakalagay ito, walang nakalagay ito, to provide testimony regarding the flood control anomalies. [1:46:32] Matibag said the testimony came from an individual, an individual means one person, kasi hindi individuals dapat unless it's grammar, with a direct relationship to one of the supposed 18 marines. [1:46:47] So that could be anyone in the world, dahil labing walo kayo, I'm sure you have a lot of friends. [1:46:52] Please, pinangalanan si dating congressman Mike Defensor na siya yung nag-offer ng halaga noong 5 million para maging testigo nga at lumabas mag-press con Matibag said. [1:47:03] He added that the NBI has already issued a subpoena to Defensor to shed light on allegations. [1:47:09] I will not interrupt you now, Mr. Chairman. [1:47:11] Mamaya, nandito na rin naman si ex-congressman Defensor. [1:47:14] It's time for him once again to use his last name and defend himself. [1:47:19] Having said that, may I invite with the permission of the chairman, [1:47:23] Director Matibag, tutal mahilig kayong NBI pumunta dito sa Senado na walang imbitasyon. [1:47:29] Ngayon kayong pumunta, iniimbitahan ko kayong nga yun, [1:47:33] kasi kung yung impormasyon mo ay hindi verified, hindi naman marites ang pangalan mo. [1:47:39] Ngayon, kung verified yung impormasyon, ibig sabihin bilang investigador, NBI, [1:47:49] ibig sabihin you have a reasonable ground to believe na yung nagsabi sa'yo ay totoo. [1:47:56] Pumunta ka dito under oath at pagkakataon mo ngayon makaharap si congressman Mike Defensor at yung 18. [1:48:04] So itong hearing natin ay open. So if Sen. Tito Soto or Sen. Erwin Tulfo, [1:48:14] ika nga ni Rafi Tulfo, kung ikaw ay matapang pumunta ka dito. [1:48:19] Pag ikaw naman pumunta dito, ikaw ay ututo-uto. [1:48:22] Pero open, open po itong hearing na ito. [1:48:25] But especially now to NBI Director Melvin Matibag. [1:48:31] Pumunta ka dito, Director, kasi ako, interesado talaga ako kung nagsisinungaling itong 18 ito. [1:48:39] Pati si Kumpanyero Tony Levy. [1:48:42] Kasi napakalaking disservice ito sa ating bansa. [1:48:45] Kung gawa-gawa ito or kung may dagdag bawas kayo sa testimony nyo. [1:48:50] Pero napakabigat ng testimony nyo kung sasabihin nyo, [1:48:54] ang pinakamalaking sindikato sa ating bansa ang mismo gobyerno. [1:48:58] So one of the two has to be the truth. [1:49:00] That's why Director Matibag, hindi pa naman kami matatapos. [1:49:04] Imbitado ka ngayon or kung sino yung agent mo na nagkwento sa'yo. [1:49:11] Pumunta ka dito para harapan tayo, magkaalaman po tayo. [1:49:14] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:49:15] Thank you, Mr. President. [1:49:17] Tutal na, nandito naman po ang labing walong magigiting na ex-soldiers. [1:49:23] Kung totoo po, ganun kayaman si Mike Defensor. [1:49:29] So kayo po ngayon ay narinig po ninyo ang diumanoy balita na kayo po ay bin-ribe ni Mike Defensor sa halagang limang milyon. [1:49:55] So 90 milyon po ang pinang-bribe sa inyo ni Mike Defensor para lang gumawa kayo ng ganitong salaysay na sa aking pananaw ay ginawa ninyo sa ilalina sa prohibisyon. [1:50:14] Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sa inquirer.net naman, nakalagay na na allegedly bribed each of the 18 ex-marine 5 milyon. [1:50:23] So each, bawat isa. [1:50:27] So simple lang po ang tanong. [1:50:30] Totoo po ba kayo ay binigyan ng pabuya ni Mike Defensor? [1:50:35] Bawat isa sa inyo ay tigli limang milyong piso para gumawa kayo ng salaysay na ito na inyo ngayong ibinigay sa amin. [1:50:44] Kagunay ng pagsisiyasat sa blood control scandal. [1:50:48] Hindi po, Your Honor. [1:50:50] Pwede po bang hirap ito, Your Honor, yung nagsabi niyan para patutuhanan niya? [1:50:56] Yan nga po, may hamon naman. [1:50:57] Your Honor, halos nga yung pamilya na nga namin ngayon. [1:51:01] Yung kapiranggot na ipon namin, hanggang ngayon, yun po ang pinagkakasya namin. [1:51:08] At yung pagkain po namin, nagkakaroon lang po kami ng, sa ngayon, [1:51:15] nagkakaroon po kami ng, yung mga kunting ipon, yung chipi-chipi na lang po nga kami ngayon, [1:51:23] nagkatsaga po kami sa sardinas na makain, Your Honor. [1:51:27] Kung nabayaran po kami ng ganyang halaga, hindi na pagkaganda na po na sana po ngayon ang buhay namin ngayon, Your Honor. [1:51:36] Salamat po sa inyong confirmation na hindi po kayo talaga nabigyan ng kahit anong halaga. [1:51:44] With your permission, Honorable Chair, [1:51:48] Kung 5 milyon bawat isa, sana medyo okay na ang buhay nila kung tutuusin. [1:51:53] Pero makapagpapakita po ako ng mga katibayan na halimbawa, [1:51:57] nung na-hospital ang anak at asawa ni Belnard Tube, kumakailan lamang, [1:52:05] ay kailangan po po namin hanapan ng makakatulong. [1:52:09] 30 mil, 30 mil po yung hospital bill ng bawat isa, asawa, anak. [1:52:16] Nung na-operahan yung nanay ni Bobares, talagang pinaghirapan ko rin po na makaambag. [1:52:25] At nasa akin din po yung resibo nung binayaran. [1:52:27] Nung namatay po ang tatay ni Buduan, kumakailan lang din po, [1:52:36] ay kailangan din pong pagtulungan namin para makabili ng kabaong ng tatay niya. [1:52:43] Baka naman na Tony Baligod, nung kayo po'y nagtulong-tulong para makakalap ng halagang may tutulong nyo, [1:52:52] baka naman isinilid nyo pa sa malita kasi? [1:52:55] Baka napagkamal lang akala mo na napakalaking pera naman nung nakalap nyo, [1:52:59] yung itulong sa mga na-hospital na kamag-anak ng inyong mga kliyente. [1:53:04] Alam mo po yung, your honors, no? [1:53:08] Ang motivation ng mga sundalo na ito, bago nila gawin yung kanilang affidavit, [1:53:14] ang sabi nila sa akin ay, [1:53:16] Tony, nasubukan namin ang nakipaglaban. [1:53:21] Muntik nang mawala ang aming buhay. [1:53:24] Pero sa panahon ngayon, gusto naming magpakasundalo sa mga Pilipino. [1:53:30] Yun po ang motivation nila. [1:53:33] E kung yung, alam nyo po, kung accusation lang nagaling kay Matibag, [1:53:38] naaawa po ako sa NBI eh, dahil eroded na yung credibility dahil kay Matibag. [1:53:43] Kali na po, alam nating gagawa lahat sila ng anong klaseng usap [1:53:48] para lamang bigyan kayo ng batik, [1:53:52] para lang hindi kayo paniwalaan ng ating mamamayan. [1:53:55] Ang mamamayan po ngayon ay nakikinig, [1:53:57] sila po ay sumusubaybay sa pagdinig na ito. [1:54:00] So, sila po ang higit na nakakaalam kung sino kayo, [1:54:04] dahil alam nila ang katotohanan sa likod ng inyong mga sinasabi. [1:54:10] At Tony Baligod, inumpisahan ko ito nung dumating dito si Master Sergeant Orly Gutesa. [1:54:18] Pinagsisihang ko nga na naipresenta ko pa sa hindi ko kasi alam na ganun ang gagawin sa kanya. [1:54:22] Ang bunga kala ko kasi, At Tony Baligod, [1:54:25] ang isang taong katulad niya, [1:54:28] talagang hindi ko siya kilala. [1:54:29] Wala akong panahon noon nakausapin siya, [1:54:31] kaya lang nagmakaawa siya na kung pwedeng makausap ko kayo. [1:54:35] Ang sabi ko, mag-aalas tres na. [1:54:37] I can only spend at least ten minutes. [1:54:40] Kasi babalik ako, ayaw ko mag-absent dito. [1:54:42] Nakita ko siya, may daladalas siyang kasulatan. [1:54:46] Ang binasa ko, sabi ko, mabigat ito, [1:54:48] nakahanda ka bang itestify ito? [1:54:51] At ano naman ang motivation mo para gawin ito? [1:54:55] So, unang-una po kanya, [1:54:57] ako po ay naliligalig na po ang aking kalooban [1:55:01] dahil ito po palang trabaho namin. [1:55:04] Nakikita namin sa pinag-uusapan po ninyo dyan sa Blue Ribbon Committee, [1:55:07] ito po lang mga maletang ito ay puro pala. [1:55:10] Pera po ng bayan pa lang ito na kung saan saan lang napupunta, [1:55:13] kaya gusto ko po mag-testify. [1:55:15] Alam mo ba akong kahihinatnan mo dito? [1:55:17] Alam ko po, alang-alang na lang po sa bansa. [1:55:20] Alang-alang na lang po sa pamilya ko at mga apo ko. [1:55:23] Hindi pa rin ako naniwala ron eh. [1:55:26] Parang added na lang na kumpiyansa. [1:55:28] Sige, panotaryo mo nga yan. [1:55:29] Kasi talagang alam kong mabigat ang gagawin niya. [1:55:34] Panotaryo mo nga yan. [1:55:36] Pinanotaryo niya po. [1:55:37] Nagaroon pa ng problema. [1:55:38] Ginamit pa ang dahilan sa kanya yung notaryo. [1:55:40] Walang kasalanan ng tao. [1:55:41] Parang siya pang pinali tao na naging bintari. [1:55:45] Para ba siya nakahanap ng notarial seal, [1:55:48] nakahanap ng dry seal, [1:55:50] at siya pang pumirma. [1:55:51] Ganon po yung nangyari. [1:55:53] Tinakot yung tao. [1:55:55] Hindi namin malaman. [1:55:56] Mang ilang araw namin siya nginahanap. [1:55:58] Wala ng kontak. [1:55:59] Palagay ko yung mga kayo ay nakontak niyo siya [1:56:02] one way or the other, [1:56:03] pero nawala na lang siyang parang bula. [1:56:07] Bagamat yung kanyang salaysay, [1:56:09] kagaya ngayon, [1:56:10] ay pinanumpaan niya. [1:56:12] Pero kailangan pa niyang usig. [1:56:14] Kailangan pa siyang usigin sa notaryo. [1:56:16] Nawala na pong kinalaman [1:56:18] dahil sumumpa na po siya sa harap namin eh. [1:56:21] With or without the notary, [1:56:23] pwede na yun eh. [1:56:24] Pero ginamit pa yung napantakot sa kanya. [1:56:26] Kaya kayo po'y tatakotin din eh. [1:56:28] Kaya yung sinabi ngayon. [1:56:30] Di pa tayo natatapos dito, [1:56:31] kayo'y nabigyan na ng 5 billion pesos each. [1:56:37] Ganyan po. [1:56:38] Ganyan po ang gagawin. [1:56:38] Sino po ang gustong magsaysayin [1:56:41] ang kanyang personal na kaalaman [1:56:43] tungkol sa pag-deliver ng pera? [1:56:45] Yes, Your Honor. [1:56:46] Good morning. [1:56:47] I am Chris Hanidado. [1:56:50] Bali, [1:56:51] isa rin sa rason na bakit kami lumabas [1:56:52] dahil sa patutunayan namin [1:56:54] yung mga statement [1:56:56] or affidavit ni [1:56:58] Master Sergeant Orly Gutesa. [1:57:01] Ito sir, [1:57:02] hindi ito [1:57:03] sundalo kami sir, [1:57:05] hindi kami [1:57:05] nagpapatokso sa mga pera. [1:57:09] Gusto na lang trabaho sana. [1:57:12] Trabaho na kung saan [1:57:12] mabuhay namin, [1:57:13] ang pamilya namin [1:57:14] para sa aming [1:57:15] sarili ng ikap. [1:57:19] So ang nangyari kay [1:57:20] Top Orly Gutesa [1:57:21] kasi ako ang laging kasam [1:57:24] which is [1:57:26] pag may mga lakad, [1:57:27] ako yung driver niya. [1:57:30] Partner kami ni Orly Gutesa. [1:57:31] Nulungot ako [1:57:32] bakit ganun ang ginawa? [1:57:35] Bakit? [1:57:35] Kung sino pa yung testigo, [1:57:36] sino pa yung sasabi [1:57:37] na totoo yun? [1:57:39] Bakit ganun? [1:57:39] Bakit ganun tayo sir? [1:57:42] Nasa mandala [1:57:43] hindi nila nare-realize [1:57:45] yung buhay [1:57:46] ng mga kababayan [1:57:47] nating mahihirap. [1:57:50] Lagi lang, [1:57:51] lagi na lang [1:57:52] naririnig [1:57:52] puro corruption. [1:57:54] So yun ang rason sir, [1:57:56] na kahit walang bayad, [1:57:57] kahit ano, [1:57:57] willing kami [1:57:58] mag-sakripisyo, [1:57:59] mag-alay ng sarili namin [1:58:00] para mapago [1:58:01] itong kalakaran [1:58:03] ng pansang Pilipinas sir. [1:58:05] Ito, [1:58:07] sa mga media [1:58:07] andyan, [1:58:10] alam ko [1:58:10] dahil ako [1:58:12] ay isang driver [1:58:13] ng media coordinator [1:58:15] ni Congressman Saldigo [1:58:17] at ni Speaker Mualdez, [1:58:20] PR. [1:58:23] Sa House of Representatives, [1:58:26] parking, [1:58:27] ah, [1:58:27] media parking, [1:58:30] si [1:58:31] Mr. [1:58:34] Robin [1:58:34] Manahan [1:58:36] ay [1:58:38] hinahatira namin [1:58:39] ng paper bag. [1:58:41] Si [1:58:42] Mr. [1:58:42] Ryan [1:58:43] Papako, [1:58:44] PR [1:58:45] ng [1:58:46] Itso Arden, [1:58:47] doon din mismo [1:58:48] sa media parking. [1:58:51] At yung media parking [1:58:52] na yun, [1:58:54] minsan, [1:58:54] nag-aabang sila doon. [1:58:56] Minsan, [1:58:57] kami, [1:58:58] nag-aantay din doon. [1:58:59] Doon lang sa media parking, [1:59:01] naka-paper bag. [1:59:02] Minsan, [1:59:03] nag-meeting doon [1:59:04] sa bahay ni [1:59:05] Ruben, [1:59:06] Manahan. [1:59:08] Tapos, [1:59:10] gabi kasi sir, [1:59:10] hindi ko na ma-identify [1:59:11] kung anong number [1:59:12] ng bahay. [1:59:13] Basta malapit lang [1:59:13] sa OR din. [1:59:16] Pero kaya mong puntahan. [1:59:17] Kailangan kong puntahan sir, [1:59:18] nagawin ko. [1:59:19] At ilaborate ko kung anong [1:59:20] doon binimigyan [1:59:24] one time [1:59:25] ng isang bag. [1:59:29] Isang bag na [1:59:30] puno ng pera. [1:59:32] Bakit ko alam na pera sir? [1:59:34] Dahil sinasabi ng PR na yan [1:59:36] sa akin, [1:59:37] PR ni Kung Salty, [1:59:39] na [1:59:39] Chris, [1:59:42] mantayan mo muna Chris ah, [1:59:43] wag mo iwanan na sa sakyan. [1:59:44] Perang laman niya sa loob. [1:59:47] So, [1:59:47] sa ganitong nangyayari [1:59:48] sa atin ngayon sir, [1:59:49] gaya kanina, [1:59:50] grabing panggigipit, [1:59:53] unconstitutional talaga. [1:59:56] Kami sir, [1:59:56] sundalo kami. [1:59:58] Dating sundalo, [1:59:59] nagservisyo din sa bayan. [2:00:02] Bakit may mga ganito? [2:00:04] Kaya yan ang isa [2:00:05] sa dahilan lumabas kami. [2:00:09] Yan lang po sir, [2:00:10] maraming salamat. [2:00:11] Totoo lahat ang sinabi mo, [2:00:13] nasabi ko na rin ito [2:00:14] nung lumabas si Sergeant Cudesa. [2:00:16] Dahil, [2:00:17] nagdamdam ako dahil [2:00:19] ang bunga kala ko [2:00:21] sa kanyang paglabas, [2:00:24] tatanawin ng malaking [2:00:25] utang na loob [2:00:26] ng Estado yun. [2:00:28] Yung tao, [2:00:30] wala siyang motibo [2:00:30] kung hindi tumulong lang [2:00:32] sa kanyang basa. [2:00:33] Ang kanyang sinakripisyo, [2:00:35] yung buhay niya, [2:00:36] kaligtasan ng kanyang pamilya. [2:00:39] Wala siyang hinangat eh. [2:00:41] Meron pa nga nagsabi rin eh. [2:00:44] Gawa-gawa ko na naman daw yun [2:00:45] at binigyan ko raw siya ng pera. [2:00:46] Isip-isipin ninyo. [2:00:47] Lahat gagawin nila. [2:00:49] Lahat ng pagbibintang [2:00:50] gagawin nila. [2:00:51] Ang punot dulo lang. [2:00:53] Huwag matuloy [2:00:54] ang pagtukoy natin [2:00:55] ng katotohanan [2:00:56] at matukoy natin [2:00:57] kung sino-sino talaga [2:00:59] ang mga ito. [2:01:00] Ayan po. [2:01:02] Sa kanyang paglalahad, [2:01:03] dalawa po ang kanyang [2:01:04] in-identify [2:01:05] na miyembro ng pamilya. [2:01:06] Isipin po ninyo. [2:01:08] Akala ko nga [2:01:09] sasabihin nyo [2:01:09] nakakaingit. [2:01:10] Nakakaingit talaga. [2:01:12] Dahil kayo nagsisikat [2:01:13] mabuhayin ang pamilya ninyo [2:01:14] sa marangal [2:01:16] at malinis na paraan. [2:01:18] Pero sila, [2:01:19] mali-mali [2:01:19] ang tinatanggap nila [2:01:20] napakasarap ng buhay nila [2:01:22] maglalahad lang sila [2:01:24] ng impormasyon sa bayan [2:01:25] pero yung hindi totoo [2:01:26] dahil i-cocover nila [2:01:28] yung totoo. [2:01:30] Hindi sila gumagawa [2:01:30] ng mabuti [2:01:31] para sa libanan. [2:01:32] Pero sila [2:01:33] ang nagkakamal [2:01:34] ng mali-malitang pera. [2:01:35] Ito'y nangakalungkot eh. [2:01:37] Sino ba po [2:01:37] yung gusto magsalita? [2:01:40] Sir, [2:01:40] ako sir, [2:01:44] kung meron akong [2:01:45] 5 milyon na inawakan ngayon, [2:01:48] siguro, [2:01:50] hindi nyo lang [2:01:51] ako makikita din dito [2:01:52] siguro sir, [2:01:52] bakit pa ako maglalahad? [2:01:56] Kahapon nga, [2:01:57] tumawag yung nanay ko sa akin [2:01:58] nasa hospital. [2:02:00] Sabi ko, [2:02:00] nakakahiya naman [2:02:01] humingi ng tulong [2:02:02] kay attorney. [2:02:04] Nakakahiya naman kasi [2:02:05] parang critical na [2:02:06] sitwasyon namin. [2:02:07] Ngayon, ma'am [2:02:08] and sir, [2:02:09] your honor, [2:02:10] nagugutom kami. [2:02:11] Ang pamilya namin ngayon [2:02:12] gutong. [2:02:13] Bakit? [2:02:13] Dahil sa ginawa namin. [2:02:16] Totoo. [2:02:18] Kasi itong ginawa namin [2:02:19] hindi ito bang sarili [2:02:20] para sa bayan nito. [2:02:22] Kaya tuwag niyong sabihin [2:02:23] na na tumanggap kami [2:02:24] ng 5 milyon [2:02:24] pagpalit yung tignidad namin [2:02:27] bilang isang dating sundalo. [2:02:29] Yun lang po sir, [2:02:30] maraming salamat. [2:02:32] Okay. [2:02:33] Yun pong gusto pang magsalita [2:02:34] para makonfirma natin [2:02:36] sa pumagitan ninyong [2:02:37] individual na pagsasalaysa. [2:02:38] Sige po. [2:02:39] Your Honor. [2:02:40] Your Honor. [2:02:42] Idagdag ko lang. [2:02:44] Yung delivery na ginawa [2:02:47] ni Tapor Ligotesa, [2:02:50] kami po yung unang [2:02:51] nagkasama doon [2:02:51] sa 42 McKinley Road. [2:02:56] Panggit niya, [2:02:57] naalala ko, [2:02:57] yun ang pinakamalaki, [2:02:59] pinakamaraming maletang [2:03:00] nakita niya [2:03:01] sa pagdideliver ninyo. [2:03:03] Parang 46 na maleta [2:03:05] ang sinasabi niya [2:03:05] nung araw na yun. [2:03:06] Siguro, [2:03:07] Your Honor, [2:03:07] hindi niya matandaan [2:03:08] pero ako tanda ko po. [2:03:10] 52 na maleta po. [2:03:11] 52 maleta? [2:03:13] Yes, [2:03:13] Your Honor. [2:03:14] Kami po yung magkasama [2:03:15] noon [2:03:16] kasi pares po kaming, [2:03:18] same date po kami [2:03:20] na hired. [2:03:22] Then, [2:03:23] yung picture po [2:03:24] sa [2:03:24] FIDAW po, [2:03:26] ako po ang kumuha niyan. [2:03:28] Yung nakuha po, [2:03:29] yung muka ni [2:03:30] poorly po. [2:03:32] Yun lang po, [2:03:33] Your Honor. [2:03:33] Thank you. [2:03:34] Sa pagsasalita na ninyo, [2:03:35] sabihin nyo rin, [2:03:36] sa pagdideliver nyo, [2:03:38] sinoon tumanggap [2:03:39] kasi kailangan po [2:03:40] nating malaman? [2:03:44] Sa hanggang [2:03:45] PID po lang kami, [2:03:45] Your Honor, [2:03:46] mayroon pong tao po doon, [2:03:48] sila na po nagpapasok [2:03:49] sa loob. [2:03:51] Pero kakilala ninyo, [2:03:52] sa tagal [2:03:54] ng pagdideliver ninyo, [2:03:55] makita nyo lang [2:03:56] ang muka, [2:03:57] alam na ninyo, [2:03:57] na yun ang taong [2:03:58] pinagkakatiwalan [2:03:59] para tanggapin [2:04:00] yung mali-maletang pera. [2:04:01] Ang contact po kasi, [2:04:03] Your Honor, [2:04:04] si Mark Texay [2:04:05] at si Paul Strada, [2:04:07] which is kasama po namin [2:04:08] nung time na yan. [2:04:08] Yun ang dahilan kasi, [2:04:09] Mr. President, [2:04:10] kung bakit yung Mark Texay na yan [2:04:12] at John Paul Strada [2:04:13] talagang pinagkatago-tago nila. [2:04:15] Hindi natin alam [2:04:16] kung anong lupalop na [2:04:17] ng mundo na dyan sila. [2:04:18] Sapagkat sila talagang [2:04:19] pinagtiwalaan. [2:04:20] Isaldi ko, [2:04:21] hindi lang sa pagbibilang, [2:04:23] kung hindi yung paglalagay [2:04:24] sa maleta, [2:04:25] at kung sino-sino [2:04:26] ang dapat na tumanggap. [2:04:30] Sino pa po [2:04:31] ang gustong kayo po? [2:04:32] Ako po, [2:04:34] Your Honor, [2:04:35] Romel C. Galapon po. [2:04:37] Itong sasabihin ko, [2:04:38] Sir, [2:04:39] wala po sa apidabit namin. [2:04:42] Pero ito po yung [2:04:43] detalyado. [2:04:44] Kung talagang gusto [2:04:45] nyong malaman, [2:04:47] kung may mga CCTV noon, [2:04:48] pwede nyong i-request. [2:04:51] Nag-deliver kami [2:04:52] sa 14 Nara Street, [2:04:55] Southport, [2:04:55] Besmakati, [2:04:57] kasama si Mark Texay, [2:04:58] driver namin si Henry Wabina. [2:05:01] Sakay ang [2:05:02] Toyota Grandia [2:05:04] plate number [2:05:05] Eco Alpha Golf [2:05:07] 4628 [2:05:09] noong [2:05:10] 29 August [2:05:11] 2024 [2:05:13] around [2:05:14] 1925 [2:05:16] hundred. [2:05:24] Pwede pong i-ekwan yun, [2:05:25] Sir, [2:05:25] sa CCTV doon sa [2:05:26] sort of airport. [2:05:27] Anong din-deliver ninyo? [2:05:28] May [2:05:29] may [2:05:30] foto po ako dito [2:05:31] na kinuha, [2:05:32] Sir. [2:05:33] Pinitsuran ko po yung [2:05:35] din-deliver namin. [2:05:36] Hindi po nasama yan dito sa inyo [2:05:38] nao na kapitid. [2:05:38] Wala po, Sir. [2:05:39] Wala po. [2:05:39] Nasa akin po yung picture, Sir. [2:05:42] Ilang maleta ang din-deliver ninyo? [2:05:43] Lima to hanggang anin, Sir. [2:05:45] Kanino po na-deliver? [2:05:46] Sa bahay po ni [2:05:48] congressman, [2:05:50] former congressman, [2:05:51] Speaker Romualdez po. [2:05:55] Sino pa po ang gusto mag-volunteer [2:05:57] ng kanilang [2:05:58] individual na karanasan? [2:06:04] Sir, [2:06:05] Stop Sergeant Walter Manalansan, [2:06:07] Philippine Marines Retired. [2:06:09] Nakapag-deliver po ako ng [2:06:11] kasama po po ito, [2:06:13] si katabi ko, [2:06:14] si Rene Ullian. [2:06:16] Nakapag-deliver po kami [2:06:17] 26 maleta [2:06:18] kay dating [2:06:20] Speaker Romualdez. [2:06:22] Sa bahay niya po doon sa [2:06:24] 14 Ara Street po [2:06:26] sa South Forbes. [2:06:30] Actually, [2:06:31] pagpasok pa lang po namin sa gate, [2:06:32] dalawang sasakyon po kami. [2:06:34] Pagpasok pa doon, [2:06:36] yung Forbes po, [2:06:37] may mga CCTV po yan sa gate. [2:06:40] So, kung i-request po [2:06:41] yung pagpasok ng mga plate number [2:06:43] na dalawang ban, [2:06:44] makikita po doon. [2:06:46] Nag-deliver po kami is [2:06:47] July 14, [2:06:49] 2025. [2:06:52] Ayan po. [2:06:54] Nakapag-deliver din po ako [2:06:55] sa Aguado. [2:06:58] Sa bahay din po niya [2:06:58] doon sa Aguado, [2:06:59] sa Balacanang. [2:07:02] 32 paper bag po yun. [2:07:05] Ang ginamit namin po [2:07:05] ang sasakyan is [2:07:06] plate number [2:07:07] Inova Block 3374. [2:07:11] Kasama ko po si [2:07:12] kabadi ko rin po [2:07:14] si Rene Ullian [2:07:15] at saka si Mark Tixay. [2:07:18] Noong, [2:07:19] ano po yun, [2:07:19] mga [2:07:20] mga April po yun, [2:07:27] 2025. [2:07:27] Saka yung sinasabi po nilang [2:07:32] nakatanggap kami ng 5 million. [2:07:35] Hindi po totoo yun [2:07:36] kasi ako po [2:07:37] nagkaroon po ng [2:07:39] tumor yung kapatid ko. [2:07:42] Actually, [2:07:42] namatay po siya ngayon eh. [2:07:44] Kanina, [2:07:45] yung kapatid ko. [2:07:47] Sorry po. [2:07:51] Namatay po siya kanina. [2:07:54] Ngayong araw na ito? [2:07:55] Kasi ang nangyari [2:08:00] ito ni Baligod, [2:08:01] nung itong inyong [2:08:02] pinagsama-samang [2:08:03] sa Laysay [2:08:03] ay lumabas na nga. [2:08:05] May pera po ako na [2:08:06] ipagumot ko na po yun eh. [2:08:10] Alam po namin yun. [2:08:14] Let me express lang [2:08:15] sa aming [2:08:17] labing tatlo, [2:08:18] labing dalawa [2:08:19] at sa komedi. [2:08:21] Nakikiramay at [2:08:22] we're so sad to hear [2:08:23] the circumstance [2:08:24] nyong lahat. [2:08:26] I mean, [2:08:26] it happens to [2:08:27] many Filipinos [2:08:28] but not at a time [2:08:30] where you're risking [2:08:31] your life [2:08:32] at hindi nyo alam [2:08:33] kung makukulong na kayo bukas [2:08:34] mapapatay kayo. [2:08:36] That's why [2:08:36] nagpapasalamat kaming [2:08:38] nandito kayo [2:08:38] at ang pangako lang namin [2:08:40] your testimony [2:08:41] will not go in vain. [2:08:43] So that's why [2:08:44] ko bringing up kanina [2:08:45] yung 5 million [2:08:46] kaysa sa media tayo [2:08:48] mag-press con mamaya. [2:08:50] Malaman talaga namin [2:08:51] and I didn't know [2:08:53] that yan ang circumstance [2:08:54] nyo lahat. [2:08:55] So tanggapin nyo [2:08:56] yung aming [2:08:57] pakikiramay [2:08:58] and you know, [2:08:59] I don't know. [2:09:01] Yung kasing [2:09:02] natanggal yung [2:09:04] inyong livelihood, [2:09:05] pwede namin [2:09:06] balik yun eh. [2:09:07] Pero yung namatayin kayo, [2:09:08] hindi naman namin [2:09:09] mababalik yung [2:09:10] pagpapagamot doon eh. [2:09:11] So, [2:09:12] you know, [2:09:13] tanggapin nyo yung [2:09:13] kaming paumanhin. [2:09:15] But we will do better. [2:09:17] Kung ilan lang [2:09:18] kami natitira [2:09:19] sa committee na ito [2:09:20] at sa Senado, [2:09:21] we will do better [2:09:22] to give justice [2:09:24] sa sinasabi po. [2:09:28] Chairman, [2:09:30] kung gusto nyong [2:09:31] balikan mamaya [2:09:31] kung sino pang gusto [2:09:32] magsalita, [2:09:33] but isa sa pinakamalaking [2:09:34] issue sa ating bansa [2:09:35] ay yung [2:09:36] extrajudicial killing. [2:09:38] At [2:09:39] nung nagkaroon ako [2:09:40] ng pahiyag [2:09:41] sa Facebook Live, [2:09:43] twinis to, [2:09:44] twinis ng mga [2:09:45] bishops, [2:09:46] ng [2:09:46] Catholic bishops, [2:09:48] twinis to [2:09:49] ng ilan mga [2:09:50] business groups, [2:09:52] ng ilan mga [2:09:52] skwelahan. [2:09:54] Let me repeat it here [2:09:55] in context of [2:09:56] paragraphs [2:09:58] 27 to [2:10:00] 32? [2:10:04] 33? [2:10:07] No? [2:10:08] 27 to 32, no? [2:10:09] Kaming apat dito [2:10:11] na nandito sa [2:10:12] committee ngayon, [2:10:13] iba-iba kami ng [2:10:13] religion. [2:10:15] Senator Aimee, [2:10:16] Senator [2:10:17] Marcoleta, [2:10:19] Brother Robin, [2:10:20] ako, [2:10:20] iba po kami ng [2:10:21] spiritual na [2:10:22] paniniwala. [2:10:23] Pero kung hindi ako [2:10:24] nagkakamali sa [2:10:25] katoliko, [2:10:25] sa iglesia, [2:10:26] sa evangelical [2:10:27] Christian at [2:10:28] sa Muslim, [2:10:29] pare-parehong [2:10:30] naniniwala na [2:10:31] bawal pumatay. [2:10:32] Thou shall not [2:10:33] murder. [2:10:34] Thou shall not [2:10:35] kill, [2:10:35] thou shall not [2:10:36] murder. [2:10:37] Ang pagkaintindi ko [2:10:38] kasi, [2:10:39] dahil kinausap ko [2:10:40] si Senator Baton [2:10:41] nung siya'y [2:10:41] Chief PNP pa, [2:10:43] at ang Pangulo [2:10:44] nung tinanggap ko [2:10:45] yung position [2:10:46] na Foreign [2:10:47] Secretary, [2:10:49] trabaho ko [2:10:49] ipaliwanag [2:10:50] sa buong mundo [2:10:51] yung war on [2:10:53] drugs. [2:10:54] So, [2:10:54] ang pagkaintindi ko [2:10:55] at ito'y [2:10:56] na-clarify ko [2:10:57] sa Pangulo, [2:10:58] na-clarify ko [2:10:58] kay Senator Baton, [2:10:59] yung lengguahe [2:11:01] kasi na [2:11:02] na-iintindihan [2:11:03] ng mga [2:11:03] pusher [2:11:04] at mga [2:11:05] kriminal [2:11:05] ay yung lengguaheng [2:11:08] hindi namin [2:11:09] kayo atrasan, [2:11:10] gusto nyong [2:11:10] patayan, [2:11:11] patayan tayo, [2:11:12] tumigil kayo, [2:11:13] kung hindi, [2:11:13] lilinising namin [2:11:14] kayo. [2:11:15] Pero, [2:11:16] ang pagkaintindi ko [2:11:17] is that the police, [2:11:19] the PNP [2:11:19] ang alagad ng batas, [2:11:20] they will follow [2:11:21] the constitution, [2:11:23] the laws, [2:11:24] and protocols. [2:11:25] Meaning, [2:11:26] ang ibig sabihin [2:11:27] na papatayin kayo [2:11:28] is, [2:11:29] kung may enkwentro [2:11:30] at lumaban sila, [2:11:31] naglabas sila [2:11:32] ng deadly weapon, [2:11:34] pwede mo [2:11:35] i-engage. [2:11:36] And if, [2:11:36] paulit-ulit [2:11:37] ang dati nating [2:11:38] Pangulong Duterte, [2:11:39] if your life [2:11:39] is in danger, [2:11:41] alangan naman [2:11:42] ikaw ang alagad [2:11:42] ng batas, [2:11:43] e, [2:11:44] this way [2:11:44] submission yun, [2:11:45] kung sasabihin mong [2:11:46] may baril na yung [2:11:47] kalaban mo [2:11:48] o sabog [2:11:48] at kung ano-anong [2:11:49] ginagawa. [2:11:50] You know, [2:11:51] in Europe, [2:11:52] dahil mas cocaine, [2:11:53] morphine, [2:11:54] kung ano-anong droga, [2:11:55] yung mga [2:11:55] mahal na [2:11:57] luxury drugs, [2:12:02] hindi nagkokos yan [2:12:04] ng paranoia [2:12:06] at saka [2:12:06] ng mga [2:12:07] hallucinations [2:12:13] na [2:12:14] yan ang problema [2:12:15] sa Shabu. [2:12:17] Sa aming [2:12:17] nga distrito, [2:12:18] nangyari, [2:12:19] anak ng mayor, [2:12:19] buti yung anak, [2:12:20] okay na. [2:12:21] But, [2:12:22] nabaril niya [2:12:23] yung sarili [2:12:23] niyang tatay, [2:12:24] buti hindi na [2:12:25] tamaan. [2:12:26] Kasi ang sabi [2:12:27] nung sabog siya, [2:12:28] ang nakita niya, [2:12:28] demonyo. [2:12:30] Hindi niya nakita [2:12:30] yung tatay niya. [2:12:32] Because the [2:12:33] effects of Shabu [2:12:34] is different [2:12:35] to different people, [2:12:36] pero it causes that. [2:12:38] San ka makakita [2:12:39] na i-re-rape [2:12:40] two-year-old, [2:12:40] four-year-old, [2:12:41] seven-year-old? [2:12:44] Adapted sa pamilya, [2:12:45] mahal na mahal [2:12:46] yung pamilya, [2:12:47] pero nag-drugs, [2:12:49] mang-re-rape [2:12:49] sa sariling pamilya. [2:12:51] At pagkatapos, [2:12:52] sasabihin, [2:12:52] hindi niya alam [2:12:53] yung ginawa niya. [2:12:54] That's why [2:12:54] there was the war on drugs. [2:12:55] Question, [2:12:57] was there indiscriminate [2:12:58] killing? [2:12:59] Was there [2:12:59] extrajudicial killing? [2:13:01] That's the big question. [2:13:03] That's why [2:13:03] like in the case of Kian, [2:13:05] kung hindi ako [2:13:06] nagkakamali, [2:13:07] nakasuhan ng murder [2:13:08] at nakonvict [2:13:10] yung mga polis na yun. [2:13:12] So let me [2:13:12] make that distinction [2:13:14] now. [2:13:14] It is different [2:13:15] if you have a policy [2:13:16] to kill them all. [2:13:18] Diba? [2:13:18] Kung genocide yan, [2:13:19] crimes against [2:13:20] humanity, [2:13:22] kung yan ay, [2:13:23] hindi. [2:13:24] Basta't nag-drugin, [2:13:25] patayin mo yan. [2:13:25] Extrajudicial killing yun. [2:13:28] Pero pag sinabing, [2:13:29] seryoso tayo [2:13:29] laban sa droga, [2:13:31] at pagka lumaban, [2:13:33] labanan nyo rin, [2:13:34] pabalik, [2:13:34] use adequate force. [2:13:37] Yan po, [2:13:37] iligal. [2:13:38] Lengguahe lang [2:13:39] ang pinag-uusapan. [2:13:40] And the proof of that [2:13:41] is times three [2:13:42] yung nakulong [2:13:43] sa dating mga nakukulong. [2:13:44] But what is my point? [2:13:46] My point is, [2:13:46] that was the debate [2:13:47] then, [2:13:47] and that's the debate [2:13:48] now. [2:13:49] And I want all the [2:13:50] witnesses to come out. [2:13:51] So kung meron involved [2:13:52] sa extrajudicial killing, [2:13:53] at local levels yan, [2:13:55] dapat makasuhan. [2:13:57] If it was a state policy, [2:13:59] then mananagot po [2:14:00] ang ating dating [2:14:00] Pangulot si Senator Bato. [2:14:02] But if it wasn't [2:14:03] a state policy, [2:14:04] at meron pa ilan-ilan, [2:14:05] whether yan ay [2:14:06] pusher to pusher, [2:14:07] sindikato to sindikato, [2:14:09] tandaan niyo po, [2:14:10] may mga general [2:14:10] sa sindikato, [2:14:12] may piskal, [2:14:12] may judge. [2:14:13] That was revealed. [2:14:15] So what's my point? [2:14:17] Kasi nakalagay po dito eh, [2:14:20] ang ICC group [2:14:21] ay palaging pumupunta [2:14:22] sa Maidas Hotel [2:14:23] sa Pasay 2024, [2:14:24] Holiday Inn [2:14:25] at Holiday Inn [2:14:26] Makati 2025, [2:14:28] kung saan dun sila [2:14:29] kinakausap [2:14:30] ng interview [2:14:31] ng mga tao [2:14:31] na pinapakontak [2:14:33] sa akin, [2:14:34] Belnard Tube, [2:14:37] si Sunny Trillanes, [2:14:38] katulad ni Brigador [2:14:39] General Jerry [2:14:40] Protasio, [2:14:41] Police Colonel [2:14:42] Santiago Jordan, [2:14:44] Mayor Jed Mabilog, [2:14:45] Kerwin Espinosa, [2:14:46] Father Flavi Villanueva, [2:14:48] Police Colonel [2:14:49] Santi Mendoza, [2:14:50] Police Colonel [2:14:50] Jeffrey Lan Latayada, [2:14:53] at Police Colonel [2:14:54] Angel Garcillano. [2:14:56] Pumunta rin sila [2:14:57] sa bahi kalingan [2:14:58] ni Father Flavi Villanueva [2:14:59] para makausap [2:15:00] ang mga pamilya [2:15:01] ng mga biktima [2:15:02] di umano ng EJK [2:15:03] at National Believed Prison [2:15:05] sa Muntinlupa [2:15:06] para kausapin [2:15:07] ang di umano [2:15:08] pumatay [2:15:08] kay Kian Delosantos [2:15:10] na dating mga polis. [2:15:11] May picture dito. [2:15:12] Walang problema [2:15:13] sa testimony na yan. [2:15:15] I mean, [2:15:15] if any congressman, [2:15:17] including Zaldico, [2:15:18] the former speaker, [2:15:20] anyone wants to get [2:15:21] to the bottom of truth, [2:15:22] former Senator Trillanes, [2:15:24] kung gusto niyang [2:15:24] may access [2:15:26] ang mga taga-ICC, [2:15:28] ang problema lang [2:15:28] naman ko doon, [2:15:29] nagsinungaling kasi [2:15:29] yung gobyerno [2:15:30] na hindi sila [2:15:31] nagko-cooperate. [2:15:32] Ba't halimbawa [2:15:33] inamin nila [2:15:33] nagko-cooperate sila? [2:15:34] Wala rin naman problema eh. [2:15:36] We all want to know the truth. [2:15:37] I want to know the truth. [2:15:39] Was EJK [2:15:40] a state policy? [2:15:43] Or was it certain groups? [2:15:44] And was the intention talaga [2:15:46] ni former President [2:15:47] Duterte Linisen? [2:15:49] Ang problema, [2:15:49] pag sinundan mo yung [2:15:50] paragraph 28, [2:15:51] 29, [2:15:52] 30, [2:15:54] hanggang 37, [2:15:57] bukod sa mga meetings [2:15:58] sa bahay ng dating [2:15:59] DOJ Sekretary [2:16:00] Borin Rimulya, [2:16:02] bukod sa meeting [2:16:05] ito sa 29, [2:16:08] noong pagbalik-balik [2:16:09] ang mga ICC personality [2:16:11] dito sa Pilipinas [2:16:12] mula December 2023 pa lang [2:16:14] hanggang 2025 [2:16:15] ay nakapagputusan kami [2:16:17] ng apat na beses [2:16:18] na mag-deliver ng pera [2:16:20] para kay Sanit Trillanes [2:16:21] para sa gastusin [2:16:22] konektado sa ICC personality. [2:16:24] I won't continue reading [2:16:27] because I want to hear it from you. [2:16:29] Kasi iba po yung [2:16:30] tinutulungan mo [2:16:32] na ma-interview. [2:16:34] So halimbawa po, [2:16:35] may kailangan sumundo [2:16:36] sa airport, [2:16:37] kailangan kumain, [2:16:38] kailangan makapasok [2:16:39] sa bilibid. [2:16:40] At iba yung mali-maleta [2:16:41] kasi mali-maleta [2:16:42] implies bribery. [2:16:46] So it's bad [2:16:47] to cover up EJK [2:16:48] but it is also bad [2:16:50] to pay people [2:16:51] to make it appear [2:16:52] na meron EJK [2:16:53] kung wala. [2:16:54] As a state policy ha, [2:16:56] I'm not saying [2:16:56] walang ex-judicial killings [2:16:58] even during the time [2:16:59] of President Pinoy. [2:17:00] There was between [2:17:01] 13,000 to 17,000 [2:17:03] every year [2:17:04] na EJK. [2:17:06] Kaya lang [2:17:06] ang ginawa [2:17:07] ni Secretary Deliman [2:17:08] nung Secretary siya, [2:17:09] pinalitan yung [2:17:09] definition [2:17:10] ng EJK. [2:17:12] Kaya lumabas, [2:17:12] ganun karaming patay [2:17:13] pero hindi EJK. [2:17:15] So, [2:17:16] please elaborate on this. [2:17:18] On, [2:17:19] kanina inumpisan nyo na eh, [2:17:21] na, [2:17:21] dun kay Senator Trillanes, [2:17:23] no, [2:17:23] but, [2:17:24] yung sabi nyo [2:17:24] pabalik-balik [2:17:25] na meetings [2:17:26] simula 2023, [2:17:28] kan yung elaborate [2:17:28] at ilang beses [2:17:29] na bigyan ng pera pa? [2:17:30] Tapos sabi, [2:17:31] folder. [2:17:31] Paano nyo alam na [2:17:33] pera yun [2:17:34] at hindi dokumento? [2:17:36] And then, [2:17:36] can you flash the, [2:17:38] nagulat ako dito [2:17:38] sa table [2:17:40] in page 1011 [2:17:42] kasi madetalye. [2:17:44] Usually, [2:17:44] correct me if I'm wrong, [2:17:45] Tony Maligod, [2:17:46] usually, [2:17:47] kumpanyero, [2:17:48] hindi naglalabas [2:17:49] ng ganyan kadetalye [2:17:50] kasi isa lang dyan mali. [2:17:53] Although, [2:17:53] this is not the actual [2:17:54] na, [2:17:55] ano naman, [2:17:55] diba, [2:17:55] na nag-duty, [2:17:56] this is the schedule. [2:17:57] But usually, [2:17:58] hindi naglalabas [2:17:59] ng ganyang kadetalye. [2:18:00] Kasi pagka naglabas ka [2:18:01] ng ganyang kadetalye [2:18:02] tapos may isang pangalan dyan [2:18:04] na wala na dyan [2:18:05] o hindi pumunta [2:18:06] o et cetera, [2:18:07] mapahama ka pa. [2:18:09] So, [2:18:09] usually, [2:18:09] yung credibility [2:18:10] ng testimony [2:18:12] pag may detalye [2:18:13] at napanindigan [2:18:15] yung testimony na yun. [2:18:17] So, [2:18:18] let's start with this table. [2:18:19] What is this table? [2:18:22] Your Honor, [2:18:23] sample lang po yan [2:18:24] ng mga duty assignments, [2:18:27] ng mga security details. [2:18:30] Dito, [2:18:31] makikita po nyo yung date, no? [2:18:33] October up to [2:18:34] three weeks lang yata ito. [2:18:36] Pero mahaba po yan. [2:18:38] Sample lang po yan. [2:18:39] Meron din pong schedule [2:18:41] ang mga naka-assign [2:18:42] kay Congressman Saldico, [2:18:44] sa asawa niya, [2:18:45] sa mga anak niya. [2:18:47] May mga naka-assign din [2:18:50] sa mga media operators nila. [2:18:53] Meron pong na-assign dito [2:18:54] sa dalawang operators yata, no? [2:18:57] So, ito lang po. [2:18:58] Sample lang po yan, [2:18:59] Senator. [2:19:01] So, hindi pala ito [2:19:02] parang may sumundo, [2:19:04] may... [2:19:04] Talagang binantayan yung [2:19:06] mga foreigner [2:19:07] na allegedly taga-ICC. [2:19:09] Can we start with that? [2:19:10] Yung sinabi nyo kanina, [2:19:11] as much as possible, [2:19:12] details and names, no? [2:19:14] Alang-alang sa ating [2:19:15] mga kapatid na media, [2:19:17] as I said, [2:19:18] ayaw ko sabihin marami. [2:19:19] You know, [2:19:20] let's also protect them. [2:19:22] They're doing [2:19:23] a indispensable job [2:19:25] in our country. [2:19:26] Pag walang media, [2:19:27] we will have a dictatorship. [2:19:29] So, [2:19:30] alang-alang din [2:19:31] sa mga nagsasakripisyong media [2:19:32] katulad ninyo. [2:19:33] Yung mga operators na yun, [2:19:35] kung mababanggit nyo, [2:19:36] banggitin nyo. [2:19:37] Para may hiyan naman sila [2:19:38] kung totoo talaga, no? [2:19:40] But details matter. [2:19:41] So, ilan meetings yun? [2:19:42] Saan? [2:19:43] Personal knowledge only, please. [2:19:46] Sergeant Tube, [2:19:47] you want, ICC. [2:19:48] Sa ICC muna tayo. [2:19:50] Ah, yes po, sir. [2:19:53] Dumating yung ICC, sir, [2:19:55] December 2023. [2:19:56] Si Mark po yung [2:19:57] nag-handle ng one month po siya. [2:20:02] Bali, assistant po siya [2:20:03] ng ICC. [2:20:05] Bali siya po yung [2:20:07] direct contact [2:20:09] from Senator Trillanes [2:20:11] din si Mark po. [2:20:12] Binigay ni Mark po sa akin [2:20:14] yung assistant [2:20:16] is two weeks na po sila. [2:20:18] Ah, bumalik po sila [2:20:21] ng October 2024. [2:20:27] Ah, November to October, ma'am, sir. [2:20:31] Then, [2:20:32] ang direct contact ko po [2:20:33] sa mga schedule ng meeting [2:20:35] is si Senator Trillanes po [2:20:37] na binigay ni Mark sa akin [2:20:38] kasi siya po yung [2:20:39] previous na nakontakt din [2:20:41] kay Senator Trillanes. [2:20:43] Isti po yung codename niya [2:20:44] dito po, sir. [2:20:45] Siya po yung nagbabato [2:20:46] ng mga [2:20:47] ah, [2:20:49] meeting [2:20:49] sa hotel [2:20:51] sample holiday inn [2:20:53] na evening meeting po [2:20:55] sa ICC. [2:20:58] Good for [2:20:58] ah, [2:20:59] one month [2:21:00] one month po yan, sir. [2:21:02] After po noon, [2:21:03] ihatid naman po [2:21:03] napin sila sa airport. [2:21:05] After that, [2:21:06] mag-aantay naman po kami [2:21:07] ng schedule [2:21:07] na dadating ulit sila. [2:21:10] Then kami ulit [2:21:10] yung magsusundo sa kanila [2:21:12] na may contact [2:21:13] doon po sa [2:21:14] may immigration po, sir. [2:21:15] For the record, [2:21:18] kailangan malaman mo [2:21:19] na yung binabanggit mong [2:21:20] pagdating [2:21:21] at pag-parot-parito [2:21:23] ng ICC [2:21:24] ay consistent [2:21:25] sa record ng immigration. [2:21:27] Kaya naniniwala kami [2:21:29] na [2:21:29] yung [2:21:30] inyong salaysay [2:21:32] may bahid [2:21:33] ng katotohanan talaga. [2:21:34] Kasi [2:21:34] ito lang, [2:21:36] kapapakita lang [2:21:37] ni Senator IME [2:21:37] kasi nakakonekta kami [2:21:39] para malaman namin [2:21:40] isa-isa namin [2:21:41] tinitignan kung [2:21:42] lahat ng sinasabi ninyo [2:21:44] ay consistent [2:21:45] sa mga naganap [2:21:46] na pangyayari. [2:21:47] Sir Chairman, [2:21:49] to continue, [2:21:49] diba? [2:21:50] As I said, [2:21:51] take out [2:21:53] the issue [2:21:54] of cooperation [2:21:55] or not cooperation [2:21:56] ng Pilipinas [2:21:56] sa ICC. [2:21:58] Walang masama [2:21:59] sa investigasyon. [2:22:00] Kung pupunta dito [2:22:01] yung mga foreigner [2:22:02] para malaman [2:22:02] kung may human rights [2:22:03] violation. [2:22:04] Actually, [2:22:05] despite the rhetoric [2:22:06] of President Duterte, [2:22:09] I invited [2:22:09] human rights [2:22:10] groups [2:22:11] to come to [2:22:11] the Philippines. [2:22:13] I had the opportunity [2:22:14] to meet [2:22:14] with the late, [2:22:15] great [2:22:16] Senator McCain [2:22:17] and he asked [2:22:18] kung pwede. [2:22:19] May mga pangalan lang [2:22:20] ako sinabing [2:22:20] we dissuade [2:22:22] because political yan. [2:22:24] Yung [2:22:24] Foreign Minister [2:22:25] ng Iceland, [2:22:26] binabanatan tayo, [2:22:27] nagulat. [2:22:28] Iceland, no? [2:22:30] Iceland. [2:22:31] Nagulat siya, [2:22:32] humingi ako ng bilateral meeting. [2:22:34] Inimbit ako siya. [2:22:35] Sabi ko, [2:22:35] wag ka sa media [2:22:36] at sa rhetoric, [2:22:37] pumunta ka ng Pilipinas. [2:22:38] Sabi ko, [2:22:38] no, [2:22:39] you're President Bandas. [2:22:40] No, sabi ko, [2:22:40] I will personally escort you. [2:22:42] So, hindi issue sa akin [2:22:43] yung investigasyon. [2:22:45] Issue sa akin [2:22:46] kung may bayaran [2:22:47] sa investigasyon. [2:22:48] So, [2:22:48] can you talk [2:22:49] a little bit about yung... [2:22:51] So, [2:22:51] anong diniliver dito? [2:22:52] Maleta, [2:22:53] pera, [2:22:53] kanino diniliver? [2:22:54] Ano yung sinabi na [2:22:55] para saan yung pera na yun? [2:22:57] Pang kain lang ba [2:22:58] o pang gasolina yun [2:23:00] or what? [2:23:03] Kanina, [2:23:04] inumpisahan yun na yan, [2:23:05] di ba? [2:23:06] Your Honor, [2:23:07] sa ibang team po [2:23:09] yung nag-deliver [2:23:10] ng pera. [2:23:10] Sa amin po, [2:23:11] nag-assist lang po kami [2:23:12] nung ICC. [2:23:13] I think po, [2:23:15] yung ICC, [2:23:16] nabigay na po siguro [2:23:17] yung dapat ibigay sa kanila [2:23:19] nung nag-serve po kami [2:23:20] sa kanila. [2:23:20] Pero kanina may nagsabi [2:23:23] na meron kay [2:23:23] Senator Trillanes. [2:23:25] Remember? [2:23:26] Yes. [2:23:27] Tama po ba? [2:23:28] Meron po, [2:23:29] sir. [2:23:30] Bali, [2:23:31] ako po, [2:23:34] sir, [2:23:35] nakapag-deliver po [2:23:36] kay Senator Trillanes [2:23:37] sa 86 [2:23:38] Security [2:23:38] Ojeda [2:23:39] Street [2:23:43] sa Quezon City. [2:23:45] Kung baga, [2:23:48] headquarters po [2:23:49] nang magdalo yun, [2:23:50] sir. [2:23:51] Anong dala mo ulit na? [2:23:53] Yung una ko pong [2:23:54] din-deliver doon, [2:23:55] paper bag na malaki, [2:23:56] siguro na sa 5 [2:23:57] to 10M yung laman. [2:23:58] Ako rin po mismo [2:24:00] yung nag-buat, no? [2:24:01] And then pangalawa? [2:24:02] Tapos yung pangalawa po, [2:24:03] anim na po na maleta. [2:24:05] Anim na po? [2:24:06] Anim, [2:24:07] anim, [2:24:07] anim na po, [2:24:09] po, [2:24:09] okay. [2:24:09] Anim, [2:24:10] anim na, [2:24:10] anim piraso na maleta po. [2:24:11] Maliit, [2:24:12] medium, [2:24:13] or? [2:24:13] Halo-halo po, [2:24:14] halo-halo po, sir. [2:24:16] So dalawang beses. [2:24:17] Dalawang beses. [2:24:18] Tapos, sir, [2:24:19] Sir Tube, [2:24:20] so ang sabi mo mo kanina, [2:24:21] ang personal knowledge [2:24:22] yun naman yung pagpapalit [2:24:23] naman sa dolyan. [2:24:25] Yes, Your Honor. [2:24:26] Na din-deliver din kay? [2:24:29] Binigay po namin [2:24:30] kay dating speaker po yung dolyan. [2:24:32] Okay. [2:24:32] But ang sabi niya, [2:24:34] or ang, [2:24:34] sino nagsabi na [2:24:35] para kay Senator Trillanes [2:24:37] or sa ICC din yan? [2:24:39] Na, [2:24:39] noon lang po namin, [2:24:40] Your Honor, [2:24:41] kasi before po dumating [2:24:42] yung ICC, [2:24:44] two weeks before po [2:24:45] na dumating yung [2:24:46] Pornier or ICC, [2:24:49] yun po yung papapalit namin [2:24:51] ng dollar po. [2:24:53] Okay. [2:24:54] Thank you. [2:24:55] Malinaw, [2:24:55] Mr. Chairman. [2:24:56] Salamat po, [2:24:56] Mr. SP. [2:24:57] Alam po ninyo kung bakit [2:24:58] dinidistinggi ni SP Alan [2:25:02] ang mga bagay nito. [2:25:03] Kasi may naunang pahayag na po [2:25:04] ang Pangulo natin. [2:25:05] At alam po ninyong lahat ito. [2:25:07] Alam din ang ating mga mamayan. [2:25:09] Ang una niyang sinabi [2:25:10] tungkol dyan sa ICC [2:25:12] in relation to their intention [2:25:16] to get the former president. [2:25:21] Nung hindi pa sila nakukuha, [2:25:23] sabi niya, [2:25:24] we cannot cooperate with the ICC. [2:25:26] The ICC has no more jurisdiction. [2:25:30] We cannot assist the ICC [2:25:32] in any way, [2:25:33] in any shape, [2:25:33] and in any form. [2:25:35] Ganon po yung sinabi niya. [2:25:37] Ngayon, [2:25:37] lumilitaw po sa inyong mga pahayag ngayon, [2:25:39] individual and collective. [2:25:43] Ang mga ahensya ng gobyerno [2:25:45] at mga operators ng gobyerno [2:25:48] direktang tumulong sa kanila. [2:25:50] Hindi lamang sa pagbibigay [2:25:52] ng kanilang tirahan, [2:25:54] pagbibigay sa kanila [2:25:55] ng mga taong kakasangkapanin [2:25:56] kung sinong kakausapin. [2:25:58] Meron pa silang driver, [2:26:00] meron pa silang security [2:26:01] na kagaya ng ginawa ninyo. [2:26:03] Ito'y kahayagan lamang [2:26:04] na hindi totoo yung naunang pasabi [2:26:06] na hindi nakikipag-cooperate [2:26:08] ang pamahalan sa ICC. [2:26:10] Kayo na po nagpapatunay ngayon. [2:26:12] Hindi sila magpapalit [2:26:13] ng ganong karaming pera [2:26:14] from Philippine Peso to Dollar [2:26:16] kung hindi napunta sa kanila yung mga iyon. [2:26:20] Sa mga tweet, [2:26:21] may tirahan na nga sila, [2:26:22] libre na nga sila [2:26:24] sa kanilang mga [2:26:25] anumang gastusin [2:26:27] na maaari nilang gamitin dito sa bansa [2:26:31] kung anong gusto nilang, [2:26:32] kung sino gusto nilang kausapin [2:26:33] at investigahan [2:26:34] para mapagtibay nilang [2:26:36] ginagawa nilang investigation [2:26:37] sa kanilang bansa. [2:26:39] Tayo pang gumasto sa kanila. [2:26:42] Yun ang lumilitaw ngayon. [2:26:45] So kung ginamitan sila ng pera, [2:26:47] paano natin masasabi [2:26:48] na ang investigasyon [2:26:49] na ginawa nila [2:26:50] ay sangayon [2:26:51] sa batayan nila [2:26:52] na dapat sana [2:26:56] silang humanap [2:26:57] at hindi sila [2:26:58] ang tinulong [2:27:00] ang panuhumanap [2:27:01] at ang humanap pa [2:27:02] ay mga kilala ninyong tao [2:27:05] na kalaban pa [2:27:06] ng dating Pangulong Duterte. [2:27:07] So malinaw po na [2:27:09] wala talagang objectiveness [2:27:13] kung ang pag-uusapan [2:27:14] ay yung pag-uusig [2:27:18] sa dating Pangulo. [2:27:20] Ito ngayon ang inihahayag [2:27:22] sa ilang bahagi po [2:27:22] ng inyong pagtestigo ngayon. [2:27:25] Balikan po natin [2:27:26] iyong [2:27:28] 14 Nara Street. [2:27:31] Mr. Chairman, [2:27:33] just last point sa ICC. [2:27:35] Nakalagay kasi sa [2:27:36] Article 127 [2:27:37] Rome Statute. [2:27:39] A state may, [2:27:40] by written notification [2:27:41] addressed to the [2:27:42] Secretary General [2:27:43] of the United Nations, [2:27:44] withdraw from [2:27:45] this statute. [2:27:47] The withdrawal [2:27:47] shall take effect [2:27:48] one year after [2:27:49] the date of receipt [2:27:50] of notification [2:27:50] unless the notification [2:27:52] specifies [2:27:52] a later day. [2:27:54] So 2018 tayo [2:27:56] kung hindi ako [2:27:56] nagkakamali, [2:27:57] umalis. [2:27:58] 2019. [2:28:03] Nag-withdraw tayo [2:28:04] 2018, [2:28:05] nag-take effect [2:28:05] 2019. [2:28:06] I was [2:28:07] Secretary of Foreign Affairs. [2:28:11] Inahanap ko yung [2:28:11] exactong article [2:28:12] din sa Rome Statute [2:28:14] na dapat [2:28:14] i-authorize ng [2:28:15] court [2:28:16] yung investigation [2:28:17] within that year. [2:28:19] So kung [2:28:20] 2023 pa lang [2:28:21] sila nag-i-investiga, [2:28:23] that is a violation. [2:28:26] Ito ang problema. [2:28:27] Halimbawa, [2:28:28] Senator Bato, [2:28:29] hindi siya makapunta [2:28:30] sa local court [2:28:31] para sabihin [2:28:32] may violation [2:28:33] ng Rome Statute. [2:28:35] Samantalang [2:28:36] sa Pangilinan [2:28:37] versus Cayetano [2:28:38] sabi ng Supreme Court, [2:28:39] kapag ka-unconstitutional [2:28:41] yung treaty [2:28:42] or yung application [2:28:43] ng treaty [2:28:44] ay masusunod [2:28:45] Constitution natin. [2:28:46] So lumayo tayo [2:28:48] ng konti [2:28:49] pero same effect [2:28:50] ng corruption. [2:28:52] So I just wanted [2:28:52] to put that on record [2:28:53] Mr. Chair. [2:28:56] Importanting [2:28:57] lumabas [2:28:57] ang buong [2:28:58] katotohanan dito [2:28:59] kasi sistema [2:29:01] natin ng gobyerno [2:29:02] batas natin [2:29:03] Constitution [2:29:04] involved. [2:29:05] Walang kaiba [2:29:05] nito sa nangyari [2:29:06] kahapon [2:29:06] and I really hope [2:29:08] I really hope [2:29:08] I'm praying [2:29:09] there'll be a next [2:29:10] hearing after this [2:29:11] para nga magkaharap-harap [2:29:12] ang DOJ [2:29:13] Ang Sen. [2:29:15] Sen. Trillanes [2:29:15] imbitahin natin. [2:29:17] I'll defer now to you [2:29:18] Mr. Chairman. [2:29:18] Thank you. [2:29:19] Karagdagan lamang [2:29:20] sa sinasabi ni ESP [2:29:21] para maintindihan po [2:29:23] ng lahat ng mamamayan. [2:29:25] Nag-withdraw tayo [2:29:26] 2018 [2:29:27] sa Rome Statute. [2:29:29] Sa kanilang patakaran [2:29:30] magkakaroon lang [2:29:33] ng visa yun [2:29:34] pagkatapos ng isang taon. [2:29:35] Alam po ba ninyo [2:29:36] ang dahilan noon? [2:29:38] Ang dahilan po noon [2:29:38] hindi kaagad [2:29:39] tatanggapin [2:29:40] ang pag-withdraw [2:29:41] dahil na [2:29:42] sa kanilang tuntunin [2:29:44] na ang nagkasala [2:29:46] sa panahon [2:29:48] na tayo ay membro [2:29:49] ng ICC [2:29:50] may karapatan [2:29:51] silang usigin yun. [2:29:53] Ngunit yung pag-uusig na yun [2:29:54] may hangganan. [2:29:56] Kailangan [2:29:56] nung mag-withdraw kayo [2:29:58] yung request [2:29:59] for investigation [2:30:00] dapat ginawa ng ICC [2:30:02] bago [2:30:03] lumampas [2:30:04] yung taning [2:30:05] na isang taon. [2:30:06] Hindi po nila ginawa yun. [2:30:08] Nung sila ay mag-request [2:30:09] ng investigation [2:30:10] yung kanilang prosecutor [2:30:12] dalawang taon na mahigit [2:30:15] na wala ng visa [2:30:16] nag-withdraw na tayo eh. [2:30:19] Nagkaroon ng visa [2:30:20] after one year. [2:30:21] Dapat doon nila [2:30:23] ifa-file [2:30:24] yung request [2:30:24] for investigation. [2:30:27] Hindi po nila ginawa. [2:30:29] Kaya ngayon [2:30:29] sila nagmamadali ngayon [2:30:31] lahat ng paraan [2:30:32] ginagawa nila. [2:30:33] Ang pinakapuntong [2:30:34] pinag-uusapan ngayon [2:30:35] bakit tayo pa [2:30:36] ang tumulong sa kanila [2:30:37] para usigin [2:30:39] ang kapwa natin [2:30:40] Pilipino. [2:30:41] Bakit hindi silang mag-usa [2:30:42] sariling nilang gasto [2:30:43] sariling sakripisyo [2:30:45] bahala silang humanap [2:30:46] dahil [2:30:47] ang patakaran [2:30:48] na sinabi ng Pangulo [2:30:49] we will not [2:30:51] assist the ICC [2:30:52] in any way [2:30:52] in any form [2:30:53] and in any shape. [2:30:55] Bakit kabaligtaran [2:30:56] ang nangyari? [2:30:58] Yun ang punto. [2:31:02] Yun ang pinakapunto. [2:31:03] Kaya hinahanap natin [2:31:04] ngayon [2:31:05] bakit [2:31:05] isang dating [2:31:06] senador pa [2:31:07] ang tumulong. [2:31:09] Alam po ninyo [2:31:09] sa ibang bansa. [2:31:12] Halimbawa, [2:31:12] yung presidente [2:31:13] ng Israel, [2:31:14] na presidente [2:31:15] ng Russia, [2:31:16] Vladimir Putin, [2:31:19] in-issuean din siya [2:31:20] ng warrant of arrest [2:31:21] ng ICC. [2:31:24] So bakit di siya [2:31:24] mahuli-huli? [2:31:27] Kinausap ang Mongolia [2:31:28] dahil nagpunta [2:31:31] yata ro'n [2:31:31] ang Vladimir Putin. [2:31:32] Ang Mongolia kasi [2:31:33] member ng ICC. [2:31:34] Anong sabi [2:31:35] ng Mongolia? [2:31:36] Hindi namin [2:31:37] na-arestuin. [2:31:39] Si Benjamin Netanyahu, [2:31:40] Prime Minister [2:31:41] ng Israel, [2:31:41] nagpunta sa Canada. [2:31:43] Member ng ICC [2:31:44] ang Canada. [2:31:46] Pinauhuli ng ICC. [2:31:48] Sabi ng ICC, [2:31:49] hindi namin pwede [2:31:49] kailangan. [2:31:50] Alam po [2:31:50] ang ibig sabihin nun, [2:31:52] yung pagpapatupad [2:31:53] ng warrant of arrest [2:31:54] ng ICC, [2:31:55] voluntaryo po [2:31:56] sa mga bansa [2:31:57] na kaanib [2:31:58] ng ICC. [2:31:59] Kung ayaw nila, [2:32:01] wala tayo magagawa. [2:32:03] Sa ating bansa, [2:32:04] hindi nga nga tayo [2:32:05] miyembro. [2:32:07] Sinabi na nga [2:32:07] ng Pangulo, [2:32:08] we will not assist [2:32:09] in any way [2:32:10] and in any form. [2:32:11] Bakit gano'n na nangyari? [2:32:12] Dinalampan nyo [2:32:13] ng pera, [2:32:15] pinakain dito, [2:32:17] nilagay sa [2:32:17] magagandang hotel, [2:32:18] si kayo pang kumuha [2:32:20] ng makakausap nila [2:32:21] na testigo [2:32:22] laban sa dating Pangulo. [2:32:25] Sino nagkanulo ngayon [2:32:27] sa ating Pangulo? [2:32:29] Sarili nating bansa, [2:32:30] sarili nating kababayan, [2:32:32] sa ibang bansa, [2:32:33] hindi nangyayari. [2:32:34] Pumunta ka sa Russia, [2:32:35] sabi ni Vladimir Putin, [2:32:37] kung hindi kita uhulihin. [2:32:38] Gumawa sila ng kautusan, [2:32:39] lahat ng investigador [2:32:41] na pupunta rito [2:32:42] dapat ikulong. [2:32:43] Nagagawa nila, [2:32:44] sapagat may respeto sila [2:32:45] sa kanilang dito. [2:32:47] Dito sa ating bansa, [2:32:50] hindi ko na po alam [2:32:50] kung ano nangyayari. [2:32:51] Balikan natin [2:32:52] yung Nara Street [2:32:55] at yung Tamarin Street, [2:32:58] 30 Tamarin Street. [2:33:00] Isa sa mga [2:33:01] video message [2:33:02] ni Saldico, [2:33:03] sinabi niya [2:33:04] na nag-deliver siya [2:33:06] ng 1 billion pesos [2:33:09] doon sa lugar na yun. [2:33:10] 30 Tamarin Street. [2:33:12] Dalawang pagkakataon [2:33:13] niyang ginawa yun. [2:33:15] December 2 [2:33:16] and December 5, [2:33:17] 2025. [2:33:20] Nung una, [2:33:21] ang dinala niya, [2:33:22] 200 million pesos. [2:33:25] May gamit siyang [2:33:25] isang Grandia Elite. [2:33:26] Ang tumanggap [2:33:28] si Usec Jojo-Guardis [2:33:31] kasama ng kanyang gwardiya [2:33:33] na noong araw na yun [2:33:34] ay naka [2:33:34] Black Portuner, [2:33:38] Toyota. [2:33:40] December 5, [2:33:42] 800 million. [2:33:43] Dalawang Grandia Elite [2:33:45] ang tumanggap din [2:33:47] si Usec Jojo-Guardis. [2:33:50] The same [2:33:50] 30 Tamarin Street. [2:33:53] Sino sa inyo [2:33:54] ang nakasama ni [2:33:56] Saldico [2:33:57] nung i-deliver [2:33:58] sa dalawang araw? [2:34:00] Yes, sir. [2:34:03] Your Honor, [2:34:05] Anselmo Tabordo, [2:34:06] Your Honor. [2:34:10] Pinatutunayan nyo [2:34:11] na naganap yung [2:34:12] pag-deliver [2:34:12] sa dalawang araw, [2:34:13] December 2 [2:34:14] and December 5? [2:34:15] Correct po, [2:34:16] Your Honor. [2:34:17] Your Honor. [2:34:18] Pinatutuhanan ko yan. [2:34:20] Sir President, [2:34:21] siguro dapat [2:34:21] makuha rin natin [2:34:24] ang CCTV [2:34:25] ng security agency [2:34:27] na namamahala [2:34:28] sa lugar na yun [2:34:29] sa COP [2:34:30] ng 30 Tamarin Street [2:34:31] sa Forbes Park [2:34:33] yata. [2:34:34] Forbes Park po. [2:34:35] Makukuha natin [2:34:36] yung ganilang logbook, [2:34:38] yung CCTV [2:34:38] para sa ganun [2:34:39] makonfirma natin [2:34:40] tama ba yung [2:34:42] ano ba yung [2:34:43] plate number [2:34:43] ng tatlong [2:34:45] Grandia [2:34:46] na ginamit [2:34:46] o kung yung [2:34:47] ginamit [2:34:47] na black [2:34:48] fortuner [2:34:48] ni Yusef [2:34:49] Jojo [2:34:49] Guadis [2:34:52] at kung sino [2:34:54] yung namamahala [2:34:54] sa 30 Tamarin [2:34:55] Street. [2:35:01] Pero, [2:35:01] Honor, [2:35:01] madagdag ko lang, [2:35:02] pumapasok po [2:35:03] doon is [2:35:04] Nelson Go [2:35:05] ang binabanggit [2:35:06] ng gwardiya. [2:35:08] Ano po? [2:35:08] Nelson Go. [2:35:11] Yung Nelson Go, [2:35:12] yun po yung [2:35:12] dummy [2:35:15] ni former speaker [2:35:17] Martin Romualdez. [2:35:19] Pero, [2:35:20] ang me-ari po [2:35:21] diyan, [2:35:21] ang bumili daw po [2:35:22] ay golden peasant. [2:35:27] At kinakailangan din po [2:35:28] sa isang pagdinig natin [2:35:29] ay tawagan din [2:35:30] si Atorme [2:35:31] Jose Raulito [2:35:33] E. Paras. [2:35:35] At ang [2:35:36] pagkakasabi po [2:35:37] sa amin, [2:35:39] siya pa yung [2:35:40] nagbigay ng [2:35:40] 2 million dollars [2:35:41] kay former speaker [2:35:44] Martin Romualdez [2:35:45] para mag-donate [2:35:46] sa Harvard University. [2:35:51] So, [2:35:51] kailangan pong [2:35:52] malaman po [2:35:53] natin lahat ito [2:35:54] kung tunay ito. [2:35:57] At kailangan din po [2:35:58] natin siguro [2:35:58] may pabawag [2:35:59] Mr. President [2:36:00] ang register of deeds [2:36:01] ng Makati [2:36:03] para malaman natin [2:36:04] kung sino [2:36:05] yung may-ari [2:36:06] ng 14 [2:36:07] Naray Street [2:36:09] sa Forbes Park. [2:36:12] Sino po [2:36:12] ang nag-deliver [2:36:13] sa 14 [2:36:14] Naray Street [2:36:15] sa Forbes Park? [2:36:19] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. [2:36:24] So, siyang po [2:36:24] ang nag-deliver [2:36:25] diyan sa [2:36:28] lugar na yan. [2:36:30] Paano po [2:36:30] nyo na alaman [2:36:31] na yung po [2:36:32] ay bahay [2:36:32] o pag-aari [2:36:34] ni former speaker [2:36:35] Martin Romualdez? [2:36:39] 14 Naray Street. [2:36:41] Your Honor, [2:36:41] bago po kami [2:36:42] papasok ng gate [2:36:43] sasabihin po [2:36:44] yung number [2:36:45] ng bahay [2:36:45] at saka yung [2:36:46] kaninong bahay po [2:36:47] bago papasok po. [2:36:49] Ano po [2:36:49] ang sinasabi ninyo [2:36:50] bago kayo papasukin? [2:36:52] Kay speaker [2:36:53] Romualdez po [2:36:54] 14 Naray. [2:36:55] Papapasukin na [2:36:56] kagad kayo [2:36:57] ng buha diyan? [2:36:58] Yes, for honor [2:36:58] kasi [2:36:58] nak-coordinate na po [2:36:59] nila yung [2:37:00] galing sa loob [2:37:01] sa gate po. [2:37:03] So, sino pa po [2:37:04] ang magkukonfirma nun? [2:37:08] Ako po, [2:37:08] Your Honor, [2:37:08] kinakonfirma ko. [2:37:09] Ganon din po, [2:37:10] tuwing papasok kayo [2:37:11] ang sasabihin nyo lang [2:37:12] 14 Naray Street [2:37:14] speaker [2:37:15] Martin Romualdez? [2:37:16] Yes po, [2:37:17] Your Honor. [2:37:19] Ilan po lahat [2:37:19] ang na-deliver naman [2:37:21] doon sa 14 Naray Street? [2:37:23] Kasi dalawa po [2:37:24] yung delivery nyo, [2:37:25] isang 42 [2:37:26] McKinley [2:37:27] at isang 14 [2:37:28] Naray Street. [2:37:30] Marami, [2:37:31] Your Honor. [2:37:32] Kasi [2:37:32] yung natapos na doon sa [2:37:34] simula 2022 [2:37:36] hanggang [2:37:36] 2023 [2:37:37] December [2:37:38] doon sa 42 po, [2:37:39] na-stop na po [2:37:40] yung [2:37:41] deliveries po. [2:37:42] Tapos, [2:37:43] doon sa 2024 [2:37:44] Januari [2:37:45] nag-start yung [2:37:46] delivery sa [2:37:47] 14 Naray Street po. [2:37:49] Hanggang [2:37:50] natapos po yung [2:37:51] termino ni [2:37:52] Busalde po. [2:37:55] Ano po ang [2:37:55] naramdaman ninyo [2:37:56] nung [2:37:58] kayo po [2:38:00] ay magkaroon [2:38:01] ng press conference [2:38:03] dyan yata [2:38:03] sa [2:38:04] Club [2:38:06] Pilipino [2:38:07] na kung saan [2:38:09] ay official po [2:38:10] ninyong inilahad [2:38:11] ang pinagsama-sama [2:38:12] ninyong salaysay [2:38:13] kasama po ninyong [2:38:14] inyong abogado [2:38:15] at nang ito po [2:38:17] ay makarating [2:38:19] dito sa amin [2:38:20] dito sa Senado [2:38:22] ang sabi po [2:38:23] ng dating [2:38:24] chairman [2:38:26] ng Blue Ribbon [2:38:27] Committee [2:38:27] hindi ka [2:38:28] panipaniwala ito [2:38:30] kasi [2:38:33] may sinabi [2:38:33] yata [2:38:34] ang tentative [2:38:35] amount [2:38:35] si [2:38:35] Atony Baligod [2:38:39] Atony Baligod [2:38:41] ano ba yung [2:38:41] estimate mo [2:38:42] bang nasabi [2:38:42] noon [2:38:43] at yan [2:38:43] ang kanyang [2:38:44] ginawang dahilan [2:38:45] para [2:38:46] sabihin niya [2:38:47] na sa kanyang [2:38:47] calculation [2:38:48] gumamit [2:38:50] yata [2:38:50] siya [2:38:50] ng [2:38:50] differential [2:38:51] calculus [2:38:52] kung ano [2:38:52] man [2:38:52] ang nabanggit [2:38:55] ko po noon [2:38:55] ay [2:38:55] 805 [2:38:57] billion [2:38:57] at yun ay [2:39:00] kanyang [2:39:00] pinagdudahan [2:39:01] alam mo ba [2:39:02] kung anong kanyang [2:39:03] naging batayan [2:39:03] kung bakit [2:39:04] hindi kapanipaniwala [2:39:05] ang inyong salaysay [2:39:07] direkta dun sa [2:39:09] pagkakasabi [2:39:10] ni Atony Baligod [2:39:11] na 805 [2:39:12] billion [2:39:13] baka naman yung iba [2:39:14] pinaniwalaan niya [2:39:15] pero hindi talaga [2:39:16] siya makapaniwala [2:39:17] kahit anong gawin niya [2:39:18] imposible ka niya [2:39:20] na itong mga tao [2:39:21] nito na [2:39:22] labing walo sa kanila [2:39:23] hindi kakayanin [2:39:25] ng ganito lang [2:39:26] karaming tao [2:39:27] para i-deliver mo [2:39:28] ang ganitong [2:39:29] kalaking halaga [2:39:29] at nagkwenta nga siya [2:39:31] at nagprivilege [2:39:32] speech nga siya [2:39:33] dito rin [2:39:33] sa bulwagang ito [2:39:35] Atony Baligod [2:39:36] sinabi niya sa iyo [2:39:37] na hindi [2:39:38] kapanipaniwala [2:39:40] dalawa po kasi [2:39:43] yung assumptions [2:39:44] ni [2:39:44] Senator [2:39:45] Lakson [2:39:49] kaya siya [2:39:50] nagsabi na [2:39:51] hindi kapanipaniwala [2:39:52] ang una po kasi [2:39:53] ay [2:39:54] ang assumption niya [2:39:55] ang pera [2:39:57] ay galing lamang [2:39:58] sa flood control [2:39:59] projects [2:40:00] anomaly [2:40:01] second [2:40:02] assumption [2:40:04] ay physically [2:40:05] binibilang [2:40:06] kada piraso [2:40:07] yung pera [2:40:08] so [2:40:09] time and motion [2:40:10] imposible nga po [2:40:11] yung 805 billion [2:40:12] from [2:40:14] September [2:40:14] 2022 [2:40:15] to [2:40:16] early part [2:40:16] of 2025 [2:40:18] Tama naman siya [2:40:19] pag binibilang [2:40:20] mabubulag ka talaga [2:40:21] Pero [2:40:22] ang pagbilang po [2:40:24] ay [2:40:24] per bundle na [2:40:25] by the million [2:40:28] 1 million [2:40:29] per bundle [2:40:30] Tapos [2:40:32] sinisilid sa maleta [2:40:33] meron pong [2:40:34] marker sila [2:40:36] kung ilan [2:40:37] ang nilalaman [2:40:38] ng bawat maleta [2:40:39] Kaya makikita po nyo [2:40:41] sa picture [2:40:41] merong nakalagay [2:40:42] 35 [2:40:43] 56 [2:40:44] etc [2:40:44] Ang committee [2:40:47] ngayon [2:40:47] ng mental [2:40:48] picture [2:40:48] Kanina [2:40:49] may nagsabi [2:40:49] na sa atin [2:40:50] na palagay ko [2:40:51] minonota [2:40:54] na ng ating [2:40:54] mga staff [2:40:55] dito [2:40:55] Sa bawat [2:40:57] linggo [2:40:57] tatlong beses [2:40:59] kayong [2:40:59] nagdi-deliver [2:41:00] at ang bawat [2:41:01] delivery [2:41:02] ay hindi [2:41:03] kukulangin [2:41:03] sa 20 [2:41:04] na maleta [2:41:05] At ito'y [2:41:06] ginawan nyo [2:41:06] sa halos [2:41:07] from [2:41:08] 2022 [2:41:09] 23 [2:41:10] 24 [2:41:10] 25 [2:41:11] At ang maleta [2:41:13] ay tatlong klase [2:41:14] Isang maliit [2:41:15] isang hindi masyadong malaki [2:41:17] at isang malaki [2:41:18] Pag samasamahin natin lahat [2:41:22] ang mga [2:41:22] factors na yan [2:41:24] Pwede mo [2:41:26] man i-calculate [2:41:27] kung tama o hindi [2:41:28] yung nauna mong sinabi [2:41:29] na [2:41:31] hindi mo naman ata [2:41:32] sinigurong [2:41:32] ganun na ganun [2:41:33] Kung [2:41:35] 3 to 4 [2:41:36] times a week [2:41:37] ang sabi nila [2:41:38] tatlong beses [2:41:39] kanyo na lang [2:41:39] At [2:41:40] huwag na natin [2:41:42] i-consider na [2:41:43] large [2:41:43] mag-average tayo [2:41:45] medium na lang [2:41:46] Kunin mo yung range niya [2:41:49] Sige [2:41:49] Mga 30 million na lang po [2:41:51] kada bag [2:41:51] kada maleta [2:41:52] So sa isang linggo [2:41:54] Maliit naman yun [2:41:55] kasi [2:41:55] magsimula ka sa 20 [2:41:57] merong hanggang 60 [2:41:58] So 20 [2:41:59] plus 60 [2:42:00] divide by 2 [2:42:01] yun ang range mo [2:42:02] Opo [2:42:02] So kung [2:42:03] 40 million [2:42:04] kada maleta [2:42:05] minimum of [2:42:07] 20 na maletas [2:42:09] kada delivery [2:42:09] So [2:42:11] 60 [2:42:14] na maleta [2:42:16] kada linggo [2:42:17] sa [2:42:19] tig kukurenta [2:42:20] ay [2:42:21] kwan na po yun [2:42:22] 240 [2:42:23] million na po [2:42:24] yata [2:42:24] Yan tama? [2:42:26] Mahina po ako sa math [2:42:27] kaya nag [2:42:28] abogado ako [2:42:29] 2.4 [2:42:32] B [2:42:33] Opo [2:42:34] So [2:42:35] sa isang [2:42:36] So [2:42:37] sandali ya [2:42:38] 60 [2:42:39] time [2:42:40] Mas magaling sa iyo sa math [2:42:42] si Senator [2:42:43] Rami [2:42:43] kaya hindi niya [2:42:44] tinuloy [2:42:44] ang kanyang [2:42:44] pag-iingabogado [2:42:45] 60 [2:42:47] 60 times [2:42:48] ano [2:42:48] ganito na lang po [2:42:50] 60 na maleta [2:42:51] sa [2:42:51] 20 [2:42:53] sorry [2:42:55] 60 times 4 [2:42:56] is [2:42:57] 240 na maleta [2:42:59] kada buwan [2:42:59] Then [2:43:02] 33 months po [2:43:03] lahat yan [2:43:03] from September [2:43:05] 2022 [2:43:06] hanggang sa [2:43:06] huminto sila [2:43:09] So [2:43:09] 240 [2:43:10] Tony [2:43:10] Tony [2:43:10] Tony [2:43:10] baligod [2:43:10] bago ka magpatuloy [2:43:11] pwede po [2:43:12] kayong kumain [2:43:13] pwede po [2:43:15] kayong kumain [2:43:16] alam ko naman po [2:43:17] habang kumakain [2:43:18] kayo [2:43:18] pwede kayong [2:43:19] makinig [2:43:19] at magtaas [2:43:21] lang kayo ng kamay [2:43:22] habang kumakain [2:43:22] kayo [2:43:23] pwede rin [2:43:23] kayong magsalita [2:43:24] Sige po [2:43:24] wag po kayong [2:43:25] mahiya [2:43:26] para sa inyo po yan [2:43:27] So kung [2:43:29] working lands po ito [2:43:31] working lands [2:43:31] wala ako [2:43:38] 20 na maleta [2:43:43] times 3 [2:43:44] sa isang linggo [2:43:46] 60 na maleta po yan [2:43:48] Then [2:43:49] then [2:43:56] apat na beses [2:43:58] sa isang buwan po [2:43:59] kasi 4 weeks [2:44:00] So [2:44:02] 240 po na [2:44:03] maleta [2:44:04] sa isang [2:44:05] buwan [2:44:06] times [2:44:07] 33 months po yan [2:44:09] Then [2:44:10] palagay na lang po natin [2:44:12] na [2:44:12] 40 million [2:44:13] ang isa [2:44:15] ang bawat bag [2:44:17] Meron na pong [2:44:19] 300 [2:44:21] 16.8 [2:44:24] billion [2:44:24] Pero sa [2:44:26] kwan lang po yun [2:44:27] sa Forbes Park lang [2:44:28] Ang sabi po ng mga witnesses [2:44:31] ay pati sa Aguado [2:44:32] nagde-deliver din sila [2:44:34] ng halos [2:44:35] 3 to 4 times [2:44:36] kada linggo [2:44:36] So [2:44:38] kung i-times 2 po nyo yan [2:44:40] Saan po yung Aguado na yun [2:44:42] at kanino pong [2:44:43] pag-aari [2:44:44] yung pinagde-deliveran nyo ron? [2:44:49] Ang sabi po nila [2:44:50] kay dating [2:44:50] Speaker Martin [2:44:52] Romualdez [2:44:53] So kung Aguado [2:44:54] and Forbes Park [2:44:55] lamang po [2:44:56] ay [2:44:56] 633 [2:44:57] billion na po yun [2:44:58] Eh ang pinag-uusapan lang po natin [2:45:02] yung [2:45:02] dalawang locations na yun [2:45:03] Eh papaano po [2:45:05] pumunta sa ibang mga [2:45:06] congressmen [2:45:07] mga senador [2:45:09] So [2:45:10] tama po yung [2:45:11] yung estimate ko na [2:45:13] around [2:45:13] 800 [2:45:14] billion pesos po yun [2:45:16] Yung [2:45:21] sinabi ko po na [2:45:22] maling assumption [2:45:23] ni Senator [2:45:23] Laxon [2:45:24] na ang alam niya [2:45:25] galing lang sa [2:45:26] flood control [2:45:26] Marami pong [2:45:28] pinagalingan po [2:45:29] ito hindi lang [2:45:29] flood control [2:45:30] Yung [2:45:31] retrofitting [2:45:32] ng mga bridges [2:45:33] nationwide [2:45:33] Yung repair [2:45:35] ng so-called [2:45:36] damage [2:45:37] irrigation [2:45:37] canals [2:45:38] na wala namang [2:45:39] damage [2:45:39] Retrofitting [2:45:41] ng bridges [2:45:42] wala pong [2:45:42] na retrofit [2:45:43] na [2:45:43] tulay [2:45:46] yung [2:45:48] reforestation [2:45:49] program [2:45:50] ng [2:45:50] DENR [2:45:51] Tingnan nyo po [2:45:52] wala pong [2:45:53] ang sabi sa [2:45:54] COA yata [2:45:55] ay namatay [2:45:56] ang mga [2:45:56] tinanim [2:45:57] pero wala namang [2:45:58] tinanim [2:45:58] Yung mga [2:46:02] importation [2:46:03] sa [2:46:03] sugar [2:46:05] So [2:46:07] may narinig po ako [2:46:09] na [2:46:09] kausap si [2:46:11] Senat [2:46:11] at si [2:46:11] congressman [2:46:12] Saldico [2:46:13] Narinig ko po [2:46:14] mismo [2:46:15] habang [2:46:15] nag-uusap [2:46:16] sila [2:46:17] Kaya [2:46:17] sabi nga niya [2:46:18] itong [2:46:19] i-deliver sa kanya [2:46:21] ay parang [2:46:21] patak lamang [2:46:22] dahil marami pa pong [2:46:24] ibang pinanggagalingan [2:46:25] Halimbawa po [2:46:26] confidential funds [2:46:28] ng ibat-ibang [2:46:29] ahensya ng gobyerno [2:46:30] ikinukuha po rin nila [2:46:33] Halimbawa [2:46:35] overpricing [2:46:36] ng mga [2:46:37] procurement [2:46:38] Isang example [2:46:39] Your Honor [2:46:41] Department of Justice [2:46:43] Historical [2:46:45] confidential fund [2:46:47] ng departamento [2:46:48] na yan [2:46:48] ay around [2:46:48] 300 million lang [2:46:50] But there was a year [2:46:51] na humingi sila [2:46:53] ng almost [2:46:53] 1.2 billion [2:46:55] Ang rason [2:46:56] bibili daw [2:46:58] ng [2:46:59] surveillance [2:47:00] equipment [2:47:01] to monitor [2:47:02] drug lords [2:47:03] Eh ang balita ko po [2:47:05] wala yatang [2:47:06] nabili [2:47:07] At kung meron man po [2:47:09] yung [2:47:10] 1.2 billion [2:47:12] na [2:47:12] price [2:47:13] ng equipment [2:47:14] that's [2:47:15] 4-5 times [2:47:17] overpriced [2:47:18] Kasi [2:47:19] sa ngayon [2:47:20] 250 million [2:47:21] you will get [2:47:21] a very good [2:47:22] surveillance [2:47:23] equipment [2:47:24] Familiar po ako [2:47:25] dyan [2:47:25] dahil [2:47:26] na-involve [2:47:27] ako sa company [2:47:27] that manufactures [2:47:29] certain [2:47:30] equipment [2:47:32] of that [2:47:32] nature [2:47:33] Ito po [2:47:37] Ito po ang inyong [2:47:38] pinagsama-samang [2:47:39] salaysay [2:47:40] punong-puno po [2:47:41] ng mga litrato [2:47:43] may mga [2:47:45] sasakyan po ito [2:47:46] may mga [2:47:46] helicopters [2:47:47] at ang [2:47:49] maleta po [2:47:50] ay [2:47:50] iba't-ibang [2:47:51] kulay [2:47:52] at iba't-ibang [2:47:53] laki [2:47:54] na nakasalansan [2:47:57] Ito po ba [2:48:04] ay [2:48:04] nilagay nyo rito [2:48:07] para [2:48:07] ipakitan nyo [2:48:09] kung [2:48:09] gano'ng kalawak [2:48:11] gano'ng karami [2:48:12] ang perang [2:48:15] na-i-deliver [2:48:16] sa mga taong [2:48:17] binanggit nyo [2:48:18] sa inyong [2:48:18] salaysay [2:48:19] Actually [2:48:20] sample lang po [2:48:21] ng mga pictures [2:48:22] and videos [2:48:23] po [2:48:24] Your Honor [2:48:25] Ibig po ba nyo sabihin [2:48:26] meron pa kayong [2:48:27] ibang mga litrato [2:48:28] na maaaring [2:48:30] ipagkalob [2:48:31] sa pagdinig [2:48:32] para sa ganun [2:48:33] ay lalo nating [2:48:34] madetalye [2:48:35] mapatibayan [2:48:37] na [2:48:39] ang gawang [2:48:41] gawain ito po [2:48:42] na [2:48:42] talagang kasuklam-suklam [2:48:45] ay [2:48:45] naganap [2:48:46] at kailangan po [2:48:51] nating tukuin [2:48:52] na mabuti [2:48:53] kung sino po lahat [2:48:56] at paano nangyayari po [2:48:59] ang lahat [2:49:00] ng bagay na ito [2:49:00] Isusumite po namin [2:49:02] lahat ng [2:49:03] pictures and videos [2:49:04] sa [2:49:05] committee po ninyo [2:49:07] at [2:49:08] maaaring rin po ninyong [2:49:10] ipasubject [2:49:11] ang mga ito [2:49:12] sa forensic examination [2:49:13] para makita [2:49:14] kung AI o hindi [2:49:16] kasi maraming [2:49:16] allegasyon na [2:49:17] AI lang daw po [2:49:19] ang hawak namin [2:49:20] So [2:49:21] handa po kaming [2:49:22] makikooperate [2:49:24] ibigay po namin [2:49:24] lahat sa inyo [2:49:25] pati yung mga [2:49:26] computer equipment [2:49:28] na gamit [2:49:29] kung saan [2:49:29] naka-store [2:49:30] ang mga [2:49:31] video and [2:49:35] pictures po na yan [2:49:35] at saka yung pinaka-importante po rito [2:49:39] yung sinasabing [2:49:39] yung chat [2:49:40] na kung saan [2:49:41] yung communication [2:49:43] yung exchange [2:49:44] ninyo [2:49:46] sa principal [2:49:47] ay isa pong [2:49:48] mabuting katibayan [2:49:50] na yung pag-deliver [2:49:51] na papatibayan po eh [2:49:52] nabibigyan ng batayan [2:49:54] ang bawat pag-deliver [2:49:55] dahil nagkakaroon po [2:49:56] ng confirmation [2:49:56] sa bawat delivery [2:49:58] meron pong [2:50:00] na-store sila [2:50:01] ng mga [2:50:01] screenshots [2:50:02] ng conversations [2:50:03] pero nung [2:50:04] pumutok po [2:50:05] itong issue [2:50:06] ng flood control [2:50:07] ay tinanggal po [2:50:09] sila sa chat group [2:50:10] pero [2:50:12] I think [2:50:13] the committee [2:50:14] has enough [2:50:15] authority [2:50:16] and power [2:50:17] para po [2:50:18] makuha [2:50:19] ang [2:50:19] data na yan [2:50:21] sa [2:50:22] communication [2:50:24] platform [2:50:25] na ginamit nila [2:50:26] which is [2:50:26] or which was [2:50:27] Viber po [2:50:28] pwede pong [2:50:30] mahingi ng [2:50:30] committee po ninyo [2:50:31] I'll take note of that [2:50:36] Dr. Baligod [2:50:38] So lahat ng [2:50:44] iba pang mga litrato [2:50:45] o kaya mga [2:50:46] video ang hawak ninyo [2:50:47] na makakatulong [2:50:49] magbigay ng detalye [2:50:50] maliban pa sa [2:50:51] mga individual [2:50:52] nakaragdagan pong [2:50:54] mga salaysay [2:50:54] na gusto po ninyong [2:50:55] gawin [2:50:56] ay malaya po [2:51:00] ninyong [2:51:00] may pagkakalo [2:51:02] para sa ganun [2:51:02] pagsamasamahin natin [2:51:04] at titignan natin [2:51:05] kung lahat ng [2:51:06] mga gagawin pa ninyong [2:51:07] pagditalye [2:51:08] ay bubuo [2:51:09] ng isang larawang [2:51:10] katulad po [2:51:11] ng inyong nauna [2:51:12] nang isinabmit [2:51:12] sa ating [2:51:14] committee [2:51:14] Opo [2:51:15] naghahanda po kami [2:51:18] actually [2:51:18] ng affidavit [2:51:20] ng bawat isa [2:51:21] sa kanila [2:51:22] to present [2:51:23] as exclusively [2:51:25] as possible [2:51:26] everything that [2:51:28] they know [2:51:28] and everything [2:51:29] every evidence [2:51:31] that they have [2:51:31] in their possession [2:51:32] at isasubmit po [2:51:34] namin yan sa inyo [2:51:35] Mukhang naibigay na [2:51:46] ni Atty. Baligod [2:51:47] yung pictures [2:51:48] yata [2:51:48] na nakuha nila [2:51:49] dun sa Ilocos [2:51:50] na inaabangan natin [2:51:52] kanina [2:51:52] Please identify [2:51:58] sino nakakuha [2:51:59] nitong picture [2:52:00] na to [2:52:00] saan [2:52:02] at sino sino yan [2:52:03] Your Honor [2:52:06] Ako po yan [2:52:06] yung honor [2:52:06] ang kumuha ng picture [2:52:07] po si [2:52:08] Kongsaldi po [2:52:09] kasi [2:52:09] tatlo lang po [2:52:10] kami nandyan po [2:52:11] Ito kinuha [2:52:13] sa bahay [2:52:14] sa Ilocos [2:52:15] sa tabing [2:52:16] pagdagat [2:52:18] ang tanong ko lang [2:52:19] kailan kinuha yan? [2:52:21] Same po [2:52:22] pagdating namin [2:52:23] 2022 po [2:52:25] Akala ko dumating [2:52:26] kayo nung gabi [2:52:27] Hapon na po ma'am [2:52:29] Hapon na [2:52:29] Hapon na yan [2:52:30] Tapos [2:52:31] tuloy-tuloy [2:52:31] kayo natulog [2:52:32] Yes po [2:52:33] Kinabukasan na po [2:52:34] kami bumalik [2:52:34] ng Manila [2:52:35] Kinabukasan kayo [2:52:37] lumipad [2:52:37] pero may dala [2:52:38] kayong mga maleta [2:52:39] Iniwanan ninyo doon? [2:52:41] Yes po yan [2:52:42] Yan po sa bahay [2:52:46] ang nag-receive po ma'am [2:52:48] si Kongsandro na po [2:52:50] Hindi ko po alam [2:52:51] kung kanino niya po [2:52:52] May ikalawang picture yata [2:52:56] sa hindi nasa Ilocos [2:53:03] Sino to? [2:53:06] Ako din po yun [2:53:07] Your Honor [2:53:09] Saan yan? [2:53:12] Hindi po yan sa Ilocos [2:53:13] Wala nga? [2:53:14] Sa Manila po [2:53:15] hindi ko alam [2:53:16] kung saan po [2:53:17] na area po yan [2:53:18] Okay [2:53:20] So pagtitipon lang yan? [2:53:22] Walang delivery dyan? [2:53:25] Oo wala po [2:53:26] Kaya yun nandun? [2:53:28] Ah, invitation po [2:53:31] ni kay [2:53:32] kongsal din yun po [2:53:33] ni presidente po [2:53:35] Okay [2:53:36] Dati may mga picture din [2:53:38] sa loob ng [2:53:40] aeroplano [2:53:41] Parang may nakita ako dati [2:53:44] na [2:53:44] nasa social media [2:53:45] pero [2:53:46] kung mahanap lang ninyo [2:53:48] lahat sana ng picture [2:53:49] isumitin na rin ninyo [2:53:51] kay chairman [2:53:51] at sa ating committee [2:53:52] para kompletong-kompleto [2:53:54] Thank you [2:53:58] Kapag may nahanap pa kayo [2:54:00] please [2:54:00] pakibigay na lang [2:54:01] So we enter this [2:54:03] as part of the [2:54:04] body of evidence po [2:54:05] Mr. Chair [2:54:06] Thank you [2:54:10] Sen Aimee [2:54:12] Kayo pong lahat [2:54:15] na nagkusa [2:54:16] na pumunta rito [2:54:18] kahit na alam ninyo [2:54:20] na [2:54:20] ang gagawin ninyo [2:54:22] ay [2:54:23] maaring [2:54:24] nagdulot sa inyo [2:54:27] ng [2:54:27] mga bagay na [2:54:30] hindi makakabuti [2:54:34] sa inyo [2:54:34] at sa inyong pamilya [2:54:35] kagaya ng nangyari [2:54:36] kay [2:54:36] Master Sergeant Kutesa [2:54:39] kahit na ganun [2:54:44] ang iniisip ninyo [2:54:45] ano [2:54:46] naggunsod sa inyo [2:54:47] para [2:54:48] dumating kayo rito [2:54:51] lalong-lalo na [2:54:52] sa panahon pa naman [2:54:54] na [2:54:54] ang Senado [2:54:55] ay nagkakaroon [2:54:57] ng [2:54:58] sabihin na nating [2:55:00] siguro [2:55:06] paano ba natin [2:55:07] itidescribe [2:55:07] ang nangyayari [2:55:08] sa atin ngayon [2:55:09] ang nangyari po [2:55:10] kahapon ay [2:55:11] simply [2:55:12] a naked [2:55:13] power grab [2:55:14] maring [2:55:17] nakulantang kayo [2:55:18] maring sasabihin [2:55:20] darating pa kaya kami [2:55:21] ang gagawin pa kaya [2:55:24] namin [2:55:25] ay tama [2:55:26] dahil sila-sila mismo [2:55:28] ay hindi [2:55:29] nagkakaroon na [2:55:30] ng [2:55:30] hindi pagkakaunawan [2:55:33] sa parte [2:55:34] ng kanilang gawain [2:55:35] bakit pa rin kayo [2:55:37] nagkusa [2:55:38] na pumunta rito [2:55:39] pwede po [2:55:42] ako ang sumagot [2:55:44] para sa aming lahat [2:55:45] gusto ko muna [2:55:45] isa muna sa kanila [2:55:47] bago ikaw [2:55:48] nagusap po kami [2:55:49] kahapon [2:55:49] at yan nga [2:55:50] ang katanungan [2:55:51] dahil [2:55:51] nakatanggap din po kami [2:55:53] ng email [2:55:54] na [2:55:55] kinakansel ni [2:55:56] Sen. Tulfo [2:55:57] ang [2:55:58] supposedly [2:55:59] blue ribbon [2:55:59] hearing ngayon [2:56:00] at [2:56:01] in-schedule niya [2:56:02] daw sa [2:56:03] June 8 po [2:56:04] gaya po [2:56:06] ng [2:56:06] sinabi nyo [2:56:07] kanina [2:56:08] Your Honor [2:56:08] tungkol sa [2:56:10] lagi nilang [2:56:11] sinasight na [2:56:12] Abelino vs. [2:56:13] Cuenco [2:56:13] ay [2:56:15] napag-aralan ko [2:56:18] naman [2:56:18] mali yung [2:56:19] pasehan nila [2:56:21] dahil yung [2:56:22] Abelino-Cuenco [2:56:23] ay actually [2:56:24] dismissed yung [2:56:25] petition [2:56:25] voting 6-4 [2:56:28] ang Supreme Court [2:56:29] dinismiss yung [2:56:29] petition [2:56:30] so [2:56:31] ang ground [2:56:33] ng [2:56:33] dismissal [2:56:34] lack of [2:56:35] jurisdiction [2:56:35] of the [2:56:36] Supreme Court [2:56:36] so [2:56:38] wala silang [2:56:39] pwedeng [2:56:40] gamitin [2:56:42] na [2:56:42] it's not [2:56:43] part of [2:56:44] our [2:56:44] juries [2:56:44] actually [2:56:45] kaya yung [2:56:46] sinasabi nilang [2:56:47] computation [2:56:48] doon [2:56:48] sinight nila [2:56:49] yung absence [2:56:50] ng isang [2:56:51] senador [2:56:51] obiter [2:56:53] alam naman [2:56:54] natin [2:56:55] yung [2:56:55] obiter [2:56:55] dictum [2:56:56] so [2:56:57] kung [2:56:58] dinismiss [2:56:58] mo yung [2:56:58] kaso [2:56:59] for lack [2:57:00] of [2:57:00] jurisdiction [2:57:00] wala kang [2:57:02] pwedeng [2:57:02] ibang [2:57:02] gawin [2:57:03] and [2:57:04] anything [2:57:04] that [2:57:05] is said [2:57:05] there [2:57:06] aside [2:57:06] from [2:57:07] the [2:57:07] dismissal [2:57:08] is [2:57:09] meaningless [2:57:10] kaya po [2:57:12] minarapat [2:57:13] namin [2:57:13] na [2:57:14] dito [2:57:15] sa [2:57:15] committee [2:57:16] na ito [2:57:16] na [2:57:17] inimbitahan [2:57:19] nyo kami [2:57:19] dumalo [2:57:20] dahil [2:57:21] nakita po [2:57:22] namin [2:57:23] na yung [2:57:23] attempt [2:57:24] ni [2:57:24] senator [2:57:24] Tulfo [2:57:25] is a [2:57:26] pretension [2:57:27] of [2:57:27] power [2:57:28] so [2:57:29] kinikilala [2:57:29] po namin [2:57:30] yung [2:57:31] yung [2:57:31] committee [2:57:33] na ito [2:57:33] na pinangunahan [2:57:34] ni senator [2:57:35] Pia [2:57:35] at kayo [2:57:36] po bilang [2:57:37] chair [2:57:37] ng subcommittee [2:57:38] at [2:57:39] naniniwala [2:57:40] pa rin [2:57:40] po kami [2:57:41] na [2:57:41] ang [2:57:41] senate [2:57:41] president [2:57:42] ay si [2:57:43] si [2:57:44] sila [2:58:02] naman [2:58:03] ay [2:58:03] dating [2:58:03] sundalo [2:58:04] ang [2:58:05] maaring [2:58:06] naramdaman [2:58:07] nila [2:58:08] kagad [2:58:08] ano ba [2:58:08] ito [2:58:09] bakit [2:58:11] ngayon [2:58:11] ang unang [2:58:12] nag-imbitas [2:58:13] atin [2:58:13] pagkatapos [2:58:14] binawi [2:58:15] pagkatapos [2:58:15] may lumabas [2:58:16] na iba [2:58:17] na pala [2:58:17] yung [2:58:18] chairman [2:58:21] ng [2:58:22] committee [2:58:22] hindi ba [2:58:23] kayo [2:58:23] nag-agam-agam [2:58:24] na [2:58:25] dadalo [2:58:26] pa kaya [2:58:27] kami [2:58:27] ano bang [2:58:28] mangyayari [2:58:29] sa amin [2:58:30] kung dadalo [2:58:30] kami [2:58:30] kasi [2:58:32] si [2:58:32] sergeant [2:58:33] coteza [2:58:33] noong [2:58:33] una ko [2:58:34] siyang [2:58:34] makausap [2:58:35] wala kang [2:58:36] mapapakinabang [2:58:37] dito [2:58:37] sabi ko [2:58:38] sa kanya [2:58:38] ilalagay mo [2:58:39] pa [2:58:39] ang [2:58:40] pamilya [2:58:41] mo [2:58:41] at sarili [2:58:42] mo [2:58:42] sa [2:58:42] panganib [2:58:43] dito [2:58:44] dahil [2:58:44] sa mga [2:58:46] bagay [2:58:46] na [2:58:46] itetestify [2:58:47] mo [2:58:48] bukas [2:58:48] sabi [2:58:48] kong [2:58:49] kung [2:58:49] talagang [2:58:51] malakas [2:58:52] ang loob [2:58:52] muna [2:58:52] dumating [2:58:53] ka [2:58:53] nangyari [2:58:55] nga [2:58:55] dumating [2:58:56] nga [2:58:56] siya [2:58:56] kaya [2:58:57] nakapag [2:58:58] testify [2:58:59] siya [2:58:59] pero [2:58:59] alam [2:59:01] na ninyo [2:59:01] kung anong [2:59:01] nangyari [2:59:02] pagkatapos [2:59:02] ng kanyang [2:59:03] testimony [2:59:03] kahit [2:59:04] na yung [2:59:05] tao [2:59:05] nagbuwis [2:59:06] na [2:59:06] sa sariling [2:59:06] buhay [2:59:07] nagsakripisyo [2:59:08] na sa [2:59:09] kanyang [2:59:09] pamilya [2:59:10] makatulong [2:59:10] lamang [2:59:11] sa [2:59:12] ikahanap [2:59:12] ng [2:59:12] kasagutan [2:59:13] sa [2:59:13] problemang [2:59:14] nilikha [2:59:15] ng [2:59:15] flood [2:59:15] control [2:59:16] na ito [2:59:16] imbes [2:59:17] na magpasalamat [2:59:18] ang [2:59:18] estado [2:59:18] sinasabi [2:59:19] ko [2:59:26] ng [2:59:27] forgery [2:59:28] ng [2:59:28] kung ano [2:59:29] ano [2:59:29] na wala [2:59:30] namang [2:59:30] pasiyan [2:59:31] ang totoo [2:59:32] po [2:59:32] yung [2:59:33] abogada [2:59:33] na yun [2:59:34] na kanyang [2:59:35] dinisoon [2:59:36] yung [2:59:36] kanyang [2:59:36] firma [2:59:37] ay [2:59:38] naharap [2:59:40] po [2:59:40] sa [2:59:40] 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[3:11:43] wala [3:11:44] sa [3:11:44] front [3:11:44] page [3:11:45] na [3:11:45] tuloy [3:11:45] yung [3:11:45] blue [3:11:45] ribbon [3:11:46] ngayon [3:11:46] wala [3:11:46] yung [3:11:46] alang [3:11:47] kayetano [3:11:47] still [3:11:48] malaya [3:11:51] business [3:11:51] insights [3:11:52] alan [3:11:53] robin [3:11:53] face [3:11:54] obstruction [3:11:54] wraps [3:11:55] over [3:11:55] batos [3:11:56] escape [3:11:56] etc [3:11:58] so [3:11:59] what's [3:12:00] what's [3:12:00] my [3:12:00] point [3:12:00] here [3:12:00] if [3:12:01] you [3:12:01] were [3:12:01] a [3:12:02] filipino [3:12:02] abroad [3:12:03] or [3:12:03] sa [3:12:03] mga [3:12:03] online [3:12:04] katumitingin [3:12:05] akala [3:12:06] nyo legal [3:12:06] at [3:12:06] walang [3:12:07] issue [3:12:07] yung [3:12:07] nangyari [3:12:08] kahapon [3:12:08] yun [3:12:08] yung [3:12:08] ibig [3:12:09] sabihin [3:12:09] but [3:12:09] again [3:12:10] sa [3:12:10] mga [3:12:10] reporters [3:12:10] natin [3:12:10] sa 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senate [3:12:38] president [3:12:38] on that [3:12:39] point [3:12:39] i'd like [3:12:40] to [3:12:40] thank [3:12:40] senator [3:12:41] robin [3:12:41] padilla [3:12:42] because [3:12:43] if [3:12:43] not [3:12:43] for [3:12:43] him [3:12:44] having [3:12:45] the [3:12:45] correct [3:12:46] strategy [3:12:47] of [3:12:48] pulling [3:12:50] senator [3:12:51] pia [3:12:51] aside [3:12:51] or [3:12:52] pushing [3:12:52] secretary [3:12:54] remulia [3:12:54] pagpasok [3:12:55] hindi [3:12:55] kayo [3:12:55] nakapasok [3:12:56] ngayon [3:12:56] dito [3:12:56] and [3:12:58] i'd like [3:12:59] to [3:12:59] thank [3:12:59] every [3:12:59] single [3:13:00] member [3:13:01] ng [3:13:02] staff [3:13:02] ng [3:13:02] senado [3:13:03] who [3:13:03] are [3:13:03] here [3:13:03] today [3:13:04] katulad [3:13:05] ng [3:13:05] ating [3:13:06] lounge [3:13:06] hinanda [3:13:06] pa nila [3:13:07] yung [3:13:07] pagkain [3:13:08] yung [3:13:08] nag-i-use [3:13:08] ng [3:13:08] mga [3:13:09] mesa [3:13:09] but [3:13:10] hingi [3:13:10] lang [3:13:10] ako [3:13:10] chairman [3:13:11] na [3:13:12] magdasal [3:13:13] at [3:13:13] magreflect [3:13:14] ang [3:13:14] mga [3:13:14] taga [3:13:15] senado [3:13:15] if [3:13:17] this [3:13:17] was [3:13:17] the [3:13:17] declaration [3:13:18] of [3:13:18] martial [3:13:19] law [3:13:19] 50 [3:13:21] years [3:13:22] ago [3:13:22] etc [3:13:22] there [3:13:25] were [3:13:25] many [3:13:25] issues [3:13:26] then [3:13:26] it [3:13:27] was [3:13:27] a [3:13:27] different [3:13:27] time [3:13:28] pero [3:13:29] you [3:13:30] reflect [3:13:30] later [3:13:30] on [3:13:31] tama [3:13:32] o [3:13:32] hindi [3:13:32] napadlak [3:13:33] I'll [3:13:33] not [3:13:33] judge [3:13:33] that [3:13:33] we're [3:13:36] here [3:13:36] today [3:13:37] but [3:13:37] here [3:13:38] today [3:13:38] who [3:13:40] is [3:13:40] the [3:13:41] legitimate [3:13:42] senate [3:13:44] president [3:13:44] because [3:13:47] hindi [3:13:47] ito [3:13:47] awal [3:13:48] ng [3:13:48] dalawang [3:13:48] barkada [3:13:49] ang [3:13:50] lahat [3:13:50] ng [3:13:50] empleyado [3:13:51] natin [3:13:51] dito [3:13:52] will [3:13:52] have [3:13:52] to [3:13:52] decide [3:13:53] on [3:13:53] Monday [3:13:54] do [3:13:55] we [3:13:55] follow [3:13:55] the [3:13:56] Philippine [3:13:57] constitution [3:13:58] or [3:14:00] the [3:14:00] constitution [3:14:02] of [3:14:02] the [3:14:02] eleven [3:14:03] plus [3:14:03] one [3:14:03] do [3:14:05] we [3:14:05] follow [3:14:06] the [3:14:06] senate [3:14:06] rules [3:14:07] or [3:14:08] do [3:14:09] we [3:14:09] follow [3:14:09] the [3:14:10] rules [3:14:11] of [3:14:11] the [3:14:11] eleven [3:14:11] plus [3:14:12] one [3:14:12] sabi [3:14:14] sa akin [3:14:14] nung isa kong [3:14:14] kibigan [3:14:15] kaninang [3:14:15] umaga [3:14:16] chairman [3:14:16] sometimes [3:14:18] you have [3:14:20] to bend [3:14:20] the [3:14:21] constitution [3:14:21] to [3:14:22] please [3:14:23] Malacanang [3:14:24] I don't [3:14:26] believe in [3:14:26] that [3:14:26] you can [3:14:28] please [3:14:28] Malacanang [3:14:29] a thousand [3:14:29] ways [3:14:30] but [3:14:30] don't [3:14:32] bend [3:14:32] the [3:14:34] Philippine [3:14:34] constitution [3:14:35] and our [3:14:35] rules [3:14:35] and then [3:14:36] of course [3:14:36] as I [3:14:37] said [3:14:37] iba-iba [3:14:38] kami ng [3:14:38] religion [3:14:38] dito [3:14:39] lahat tayo [3:14:40] may pinaniniwalaan [3:14:41] word of [3:14:41] God [3:14:41] babalik tayo [3:14:42] sa truth [3:14:43] so Mr. [3:14:44] Chairman [3:14:44] I hope [3:14:47] hindi tayo [3:14:48] pigigan [3:14:48] next week [3:14:49] and I have [3:14:50] to apologize [3:14:51] to you [3:14:52] because kung [3:14:53] walang [3:14:53] issue [3:14:54] dito [3:14:54] you would [3:14:56] have [3:14:56] been offered [3:14:57] protection [3:14:59] at least [3:14:59] to [3:15:02] having [3:15:02] said [3:15:03] that [3:15:03] Mr. [3:15:03] President [3:15:03] the [3:15:04] President [3:15:05] will call [3:15:07] a special [3:15:07] session [3:15:08] that's [3:15:08] good [3:15:09] because [3:15:10] we [3:15:10] announced [3:15:10] it [3:15:11] alam [3:15:11] na [3:15:11] minority [3:15:12] na [3:15:12] kami [3:15:12] in terms [3:15:13] of [3:15:13] the [3:15:13] number [3:15:14] kasi [3:15:14] nga [3:15:14] kinulong [3:15:15] na [3:15:15] na [3:15:15] sa [3:15:15] Sen. [3:15:15] Jingoy [3:15:16] hindi [3:15:17] pinayagan [3:15:17] ang [3:15:17] online [3:15:18] voting [3:15:19] sa [3:15:19] Senador [3:15:19] pero [3:15:19] pinauwi [3:15:20] lahat [3:15:20] ng [3:15:21] empleyado [3:15:22] ngayon [3:15:22] mag [3:15:22] work [3:15:23] from [3:15:23] home [3:15:23] na [3:15:23] lang [3:15:23] daw [3:15:24] sila [3:15:25] so [3:15:25] alam [3:15:25] namin [3:15:26] napapalitan [3:15:27] nyo [3:15:27] kami [3:15:27] sa [3:15:27] committee [3:15:27] pero [3:15:28] hindi [3:15:28] nyo [3:15:28] mapapalitan [3:15:29] ng [3:15:29] President [3:15:30] kung [3:15:30] hindi [3:15:30] 13 [3:15:31] so [3:15:32] eto [3:15:32] lang [3:15:32] pakiusap [3:15:33] ko [3:15:33] sa [3:15:33] Malacanang [3:15:34] kumuha [3:15:35] kayo [3:15:35] ng [3:15:35] isa [3:15:35] pang [3:15:35] Senador [3:15:36] para [3:15:37] sa [3:15:38] special [3:15:38] session [3:15:39] bumaba [3:15:39] na [3:15:39] ako [3:15:40] bilang [3:15:40] Senate [3:15:40] President [3:15:41] para [3:15:41] wala [3:15:42] na tayong [3:15:42] problema [3:15:42] pare-pareho [3:15:43] pero [3:15:44] para [3:15:44] masunod [3:15:45] yung [3:15:45] Constitution [3:15:45] Kung [3:15:47] pwede [3:15:47] lang [3:15:47] Senator [3:15:48] I mean [3:15:48] na bumaba [3:15:48] ako [3:15:49] today [3:15:49] Chairman [3:15:49] Senator [3:15:50] Robin [3:15:51] gusto [3:15:51] ko [3:15:51] nang [3:15:51] bumaba [3:15:51] today [3:15:52] as [3:15:52] Senate [3:15:53] President [3:15:53] Ang [3:16:00] nakalagay [3:16:00] until [3:16:01] your [3:16:01] successor [3:16:02] is [3:16:02] elected [3:16:03] Hindi pa tayo [3:16:04] nag-elect [3:16:05] ng [3:16:05] successor [3:16:06] So [3:16:06] OSA [3:16:07] Secretariat [3:16:09] lahat ng [3:16:10] empleyado [3:16:11] I'm sorry [3:16:12] to put this [3:16:13] on you [3:16:14] Not at the [3:16:15] penalty [3:16:15] of dismissal [3:16:16] or cases [3:16:17] Hindi po [3:16:18] Hindi po [3:16:18] ako ganun [3:16:19] magtrabaho [3:16:19] Consensya [3:16:20] nyo [3:16:21] Alam nyo [3:16:21] ang batas [3:16:22] Sino [3:16:23] ang susundin [3:16:24] nyo [3:16:24] Yung [3:16:25] peke [3:16:26] na [3:16:27] acting [3:16:28] Senate [3:16:28] President [3:16:29] o yung [3:16:30] sinasabi [3:16:31] ng ating [3:16:31] Constitution [3:16:32] na [3:16:33] Senate [3:16:33] President [3:16:34] So [3:16:34] Malacanang [3:16:35] yun lang [3:16:35] advice [3:16:36] ko [3:16:36] sa inyo [3:16:37] Intayin [3:16:38] nyo [3:16:38] na [3:16:38] makatrese [3:16:39] tawagin [3:16:40] nyo [3:16:40] yung [3:16:40] special [3:16:41] session [3:16:41] Pwede [3:16:42] siguro [3:16:42] tayo [3:16:42] magpahiram [3:16:43] ng isa [3:16:43] para [3:16:43] makatrese [3:16:44] na [3:16:44] sila [3:16:45] I hate [3:16:47] the fact [3:16:47] that [3:16:47] we're [3:16:48] in a [3:16:48] situation [3:16:49] that [3:16:49] we [3:16:50] cannot [3:16:50] follow [3:16:50] the law [3:16:51] So [3:16:52] Attorney [3:16:52] Baligod [3:16:53] 18 [3:16:54] magigiting [3:16:57] sundalo [3:16:58] Salamat [3:16:59] sa [3:17:00] panahon [3:17:00] ito [3:17:01] So [3:17:03] at the [3:17:07] request [3:17:07] of [3:17:07] Senator [3:17:08] Aimee [3:17:08] can you [3:17:08] show [3:17:09] the [3:17:09] pictures [3:17:10] just so [3:17:11] that [3:17:11] you [3:17:11] can [3:17:11] identify [3:17:11] it [3:17:12] on [3:17:12] the [3:17:13] record [3:17:13] ito [3:17:13] para [3:17:14] pag [3:17:14] gumawa [3:17:14] ng [3:17:14] report [3:17:15] ng [3:17:16] Blue [3:17:16] Ribbon [3:17:16] Committee [3:17:16] but [3:17:17] from [3:17:17] our [3:17:17] hearts [3:17:17] ang [3:17:18] dami [3:17:18] nagtatex [3:17:19] sa [3:17:19] amin [3:17:19] hindi [3:17:20] kami [3:17:20] humuhusga [3:17:21] ang [3:17:21] publiko [3:17:22] humuhusga [3:17:22] pero [3:17:22] nagpapasalamat [3:17:23] na dumating [3:17:24] kayo [3:17:24] ngayong [3:17:24] araw [3:17:24] na [3:17:25] to [3:17:25] Yes [3:17:28] sir [3:17:29] sino [3:17:30] ang [3:17:30] nariyan [3:17:31] sa 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[3:26:15] din [3:26:15] sila [3:26:16] Mr. [3:26:17] Chairman [3:26:17] just [3:26:17] a [3:26:18] last [3:26:18] manifestation [3:26:19] sumagot [3:26:21] na po [3:26:21] si [3:26:21] NBI [3:26:22] director [3:26:22] Melvin [3:26:23] Matibag [3:26:23] I will [3:26:24] wait [3:26:24] for [3:26:24] the [3:26:24] subina [3:26:25] this [3:26:27] is a [3:26:27] very [3:26:27] simple [3:26:28] matter [3:26:28] kasi [3:26:29] hindi [3:26:30] tama [3:26:30] ng [3:26:31] NBI [3:26:31] director [3:26:31] kung [3:26:32] may [3:26:32] raw [3:26:32] data [3:26:33] anyone [3:26:34] can [3:26:34] say [3:26:35] I [3:26:35] mean [3:26:35] pwede [3:26:36] ko [3:26:36] i-chismis [3:26:36] na [3:26:37] si [3:26:37] Marcoleta [3:26:37] na [3:26:37] bayaran [3:26:38] dito [3:26:38] di [3:26:39] ba [3:26:39] does [3:26:40] that [3:26:40] mean [3:26:40] that [3:26:41] you [3:26:41] will [3:26:41] announce [3:26:41] it [3:26:42] di [3:26:42] ba [3:26:42] senator [3:26:44] Marcoleta [3:26:45] can [3:26:45] say 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[3:27:10] is a [3:27:11] serious [3:27:11] matter [3:27:11] I [3:27:13] don't [3:27:13] know [3:27:13] what [3:27:13] is [3:27:13] more [3:27:14] serious [3:27:14] than [3:27:14] this [3:27:15] matter [3:27:15] except [3:27:16] for [3:27:16] the [3:27:16] economy [3:27:17] during [3:27:17] this [3:27:17] time [3:27:19] so [3:27:19] I [3:27:20] hope [3:27:20] we'll [3:27:20] all [3:27:20] take [3:27:21] this [3:27:21] seriously [3:27:21] at [3:27:22] hindi [3:27:22] magbaboy [3:27:23] yung [3:27:23] mga [3:27:23] ibang [3:27:24] institusyon [3:27:24] kaya [3:27:25] nabababoy [3:27:25] din [3:27:25] yung [3:27:26] kanilang [3:27:26] institusyon [3:27:27] Thank [3:27:28] you [3:27:28] for [3:27:28] your [3:27:28] time [3:27:28] Mr. [3:27:29] Chairman [3:27:29] and [3:27:29] thank [3:27:29] you [3:27:30] for [3:27:30] handling [3:27:30] this [3:27:30] committee [3:28:08] Benia Bante [3:28:09] Sia Adyong [3:28:10] Jose Alvarez [3:28:11] Jojo Ang [3:28:12] Julien [3:28:14] Baronda [3:28:14] Ace Barbers [3:28:16] Ching Bernos [3:28:17] Arlene [3:28:18] Brosas [3:28:19] Franz Castro [3:28:20] Joel Chua [3:28:21] Dalipe [3:28:22] Mannix [3:28:22] at [3:28:25] Delima [3:28:25] Laila [3:28:26] hindi pa siya [3:28:28] Congress [3:28:28] human [3:28:28] kagaya [3:28:29] na sinabi nyo [3:28:29] pero nakita nyo [3:28:30] sa ibang [3:28:31] pagkakataon [3:28:32] Dan [3:28:33] Fernandez [3:28:34] Janet [3:28:34] Garin [3:28:34] Don [3:28:35] Gonzales [3:28:36] Jay [3:28:37] Kung [3:28:37] Hun [3:28:38] Jerbil [3:28:39] Luistro [3:28:40] Raul [3:28:41] Manuel [3:28:41] Marcos [3:28:42] Sandro [3:28:43] Paulo [3:28:45] Ortega [3:28:45] Joseph [3:28:46] Paduano [3:28:47] Stella [3:28:48] Kimbo [3:28:48] May letrato [3:28:49] pa rito [3:28:49] eh [3:28:50] Bahay nyo ba [3:28:51] yung pinagdala [3:28:51] ninyo [3:28:52] JJ Suarez [3:28:57] Erwin [3:28:58] Tulpo [3:28:59] Meron na kalagay [3:29:00] rito [3:29:00] Pwede bang [3:29:01] isalay sa inyo [3:29:02] yung konting [3:29:03] detalye [3:29:03] bagamat [3:29:04] nagkausap na tayo [3:29:06] ngayon [3:29:06] na sabi ninyo [3:29:07] ay gagawa [3:29:08] kayo ng [3:29:08] kaukulang [3:29:09] detalye [3:29:10] para patibahin [3:29:10] lahat ito [3:29:13] At [3:29:13] Tony Baligot [3:29:13] sino kaya [3:29:14] pwedeng magsalita [3:29:15] para lang [3:29:16] itong mga [3:29:16] binanggit [3:29:17] nating [3:29:17] paano nyo [3:29:18] nakita [3:29:18] at anong [3:29:19] pagkakataon [3:29:20] maliitabang tinanggap [3:29:22] karton [3:29:23] o [3:29:24] shopping bag [3:29:25] o [3:29:26] expandable [3:29:28] envelope [3:29:29] na kagaya [3:29:30] na binanggit nyo [3:29:31] sa maraming [3:29:31] paragraphs [3:29:33] ng inyong [3:29:33] pinagsamang [3:29:34] salaysay [3:29:34] Yor Honor [3:29:36] Yung sa [3:29:37] HOR po [3:29:37] lagi po [3:29:39] kaming [3:29:39] nagdadala dyan [3:29:40] isang [3:29:41] van po [3:29:43] bulletproof [3:29:43] na puno po [3:29:44] ay hindi naman po [3:29:45] puno [3:29:46] doon po namin [3:29:47] nilalagay [3:29:48] yung [3:29:48] mga [3:29:49] paper bag po [3:29:51] para kanino [3:29:52] galing po [3:29:53] ito sa [3:29:53] Horizon [3:29:54] Yor Honor [3:29:55] binababa [3:29:55] kinakarga namin [3:29:56] then pag [3:29:57] yung time na [3:29:58] napupunta kami [3:29:59] ng [3:29:59] Congress po [3:30:01] kasama po [3:30:02] yung [3:30:02] paano yun [3:30:02] sa anong [3:30:03] pagkakataon [3:30:04] na ibibigay [3:30:05] yung mga [3:30:05] daladala [3:30:06] ninyong [3:30:06] mga [3:30:06] naka [3:30:07] paper bag [3:30:08] yun po [3:30:09] nagme-meeting [3:30:11] po sila [3:30:11] sa [3:30:12] opisina [3:30:13] po ni [3:30:14] Boss Aldi [3:30:14] then [3:30:15] pagkatapos [3:30:16] po noon [3:30:16] nakikita na [3:30:18] po namin [3:30:18] na yung [3:30:18] dala po [3:30:19] namin [3:30:19] mga [3:30:19] paper bag [3:30:20] galing [3:30:20] horizon po [3:30:21] daladala [3:30:22] na po nila [3:30:23] kung hindi [3:30:24] man sila [3:30:24] yung [3:30:25] EA po [3:30:25] nila [3:30:26] dahil [3:30:26] kabisado [3:30:26] ninyo [3:30:27] yung [3:30:27] mga [3:30:27] daladala [3:30:28] ninyong [3:30:28] paper bag [3:30:29] pagka [3:30:30] nabit-bit [3:30:31] nila [3:30:31] alam ninyo [3:30:32] na yun [3:30:32] ang mga [3:30:33] daladala [3:30:33] ninyong [3:30:33] paper bag [3:30:34] yes [3:30:35] Yor Honor [3:30:35] nakikita [3:30:36] po namin [3:30:37] sa team [3:30:38] ni Boss Aldi [3:30:39] po [3:30:39] maliban [3:30:40] sa mga [3:30:40] members [3:30:41] ng [3:30:41] Congress [3:30:41] na binanggit [3:30:42] natin [3:30:42] meron [3:30:43] bang [3:30:43] mga [3:30:43] cabinet [3:30:44] secretaries [3:30:47] ang [3:30:47] nabigyan [3:30:49] ninyo [3:30:49] ng [3:30:49] maleta [3:30:49] meron [3:30:51] po [3:30:52] yung [3:30:52] si [3:30:53] dating [3:30:54] BBM [3:30:55] secretary [3:30:55] Amina [3:30:56] Pangandaman [3:30:56] pumunta [3:30:58] po siya [3:30:58] sa [3:30:58] BGC [3:31:00] Horizon [3:31:01] Homes [3:31:01] sino pa [3:31:02] sa akin [3:31:05] po [3:31:06] yun lang [3:31:06] po [3:31:06] ang [3:31:06] nabigyan [3:31:07] sa inyong [3:31:08] mga [3:31:08] ibang [3:31:09] kasama [3:31:10] may natatandang [3:31:11] ba [3:31:11] kayo [3:31:12] na [3:31:12] secretary [3:31:14] ng [3:31:14] cabinet [3:31:15] na [3:31:15] nabigyan [3:31:18] ng [3:31:18] maleta [3:31:20] o [3:31:20] anumang [3:31:20] kahon [3:31:21] o [3:31:21] paper bag [3:31:22] o envelope [3:31:23] o anumang [3:31:24] container [3:31:24] ng pera [3:31:25] yes [3:31:26] Yor Honor [3:31:27] ako naman [3:31:27] po [3:31:27] ang [3:31:28] nagpipick up [3:31:30] monthly [3:31:31] dun sa [3:31:32] 28th [3:31:33] sa Forbes [3:31:35] Park [3:31:36] kay [3:31:37] secretary [3:31:38] Francisco [3:31:40] Chulaurel [3:31:41] Jr. [3:31:43] Kasama ko [3:31:44] po [3:31:44] yung [3:31:44] si [3:31:45] Topor [3:31:46] Ligotesa [3:31:47] si [3:31:48] PR [3:31:51] Chuy [3:31:51] Ligusman [3:31:52] tapos [3:31:53] dinadala [3:31:54] namin [3:31:54] sa bahay [3:31:55] ni [3:31:55] Chuy [3:31:56] Ligusman [3:31:57] din po [3:31:57] Teka mo [3:32:01] na [3:32:01] cabinet [3:32:04] secretary [3:32:05] pero [3:32:05] meron [3:32:06] kayong [3:32:06] binabanggit [3:32:07] na [3:32:07] media [3:32:08] ganun [3:32:09] ba [3:32:09] yun [3:32:09] papano [3:32:09] yan [3:32:10] yes sir [3:32:10] kasi [3:32:10] PR [3:32:11] median [3:32:12] si [3:32:12] Joey [3:32:13] Ligusman [3:32:13] sir [3:32:13] at [3:32:15] pagkatapos [3:32:16] kong [3:32:16] mag [3:32:16] duty [3:32:18] dun [3:32:18] sir [3:32:18] kasi [3:32:18] nalipat [3:32:19] ako [3:32:19] sa [3:32:19] ibang [3:32:20] assignment [3:32:20] sa [3:32:20] asawa [3:32:21] ni [3:32:21] boss [3:32:21] kung [3:32:22] saldi [3:32:23] saldi [3:32:24] ko [3:32:24] kay [3:32:25] ma'am [3:32:26] Mylene [3:32:26] Arco [3:32:27] ang [3:32:28] ang [3:32:28] pumalit [3:32:29] sa [3:32:29] akin [3:32:29] naman [3:32:29] si [3:32:30] si [3:32:32] Tab [3:32:32] Taverdo [3:32:34] which [3:32:35] is [3:32:36] the [3:32:36] same [3:32:36] activity [3:32:37] pa [3:32:37] rin [3:32:37] sir [3:32:37] kumukuha [3:32:38] pa rin [3:32:38] sila [3:32:38] ng [3:32:38] paper [3:32:39] bag [3:32:39] doon [3:32:39] every [3:32:40] week [3:32:40] tapos [3:32:41] dadalhin [3:32:42] sa [3:32:42] bahay [3:32:42] ni [3:32:42] Joey [3:32:42] Guzman [3:32:43] para [3:32:43] sa [3:32:44] media [3:32:46] So [3:32:47] ang binibigyan [3:32:47] ninyo [3:32:48] ay [3:32:48] yung [3:32:49] media [3:32:49] Yes [3:32:51] Sir [3:32:51] Honor [3:32:51] Hindi [3:32:52] tinatanong [3:32:52] ko [3:32:52] cabinet [3:32:53] secretaries [3:32:55] sino pa [3:32:57] maliban [3:32:57] sa sinabi [3:32:58] ni [3:32:58] nung isa [3:33:00] sa inyo [3:33:00] kanina [3:33:00] Kasi [3:33:02] sinasabi [3:33:02] mo [3:33:03] na [3:33:03] napunta [3:33:04] kay [3:33:04] secretary [3:33:05] Tio [3:33:05] napunta [3:33:05] rin [3:33:06] pala [3:33:06] sa [3:33:06] media [3:33:06] yan [3:33:07] ang [3:33:07] pagkakarinig [3:33:08] ko [3:33:08] Tama [3:33:08] Yes [3:33:09] Sir [3:33:09] Ronald [3:33:09] Tama [3:33:10] po [3:33:10] Yung [3:33:11] direct [3:33:11] cabinet [3:33:12] secretary [3:33:12] na [3:33:13] nabigyan [3:33:13] Kung [3:33:14] meron [3:33:18] Ako [3:33:18] po [3:33:18] Your [3:33:19] Honor [3:33:19] si [3:33:19] Yosik [3:33:20] Bunuhan [3:33:21] Malita [3:33:24] rin [3:33:24] yung [3:33:24] nadala [3:33:25] ko [3:33:25] Kasama [3:33:27] ko [3:33:28] si [3:33:28] Mark [3:33:28] Tixite [3:33:29] si [3:33:29] Brian [3:33:29] Lasaga [3:33:30] Kanina [3:33:35] Tory [3:33:35] Baligod [3:33:36] meron [3:33:36] sasalita [3:33:37] sa [3:33:37] kasama [3:33:38] mo [3:33:38] Narinig [3:33:38] mo [3:33:39] siguro [3:33:39] May [3:33:39] binabanggit [3:33:40] siya [3:33:40] na [3:33:40] human [3:33:42] trafficking [3:33:43] kanina [3:33:43] na [3:33:45] hindi [3:33:45] muna [3:33:45] natin [3:33:46] binigyan [3:33:46] ng [3:33:46] atensyon [3:33:47] kanina [3:33:48] dahil [3:33:48] nakafocus [3:33:48] tayo [3:33:49] sa [3:33:49] malita [3:33:49] Ano [3:33:51] yung [3:33:51] pangyayari [3:33:52] at [3:33:53] nabanggit [3:33:53] ninyo [3:33:53] sa [3:33:54] issue [3:33:55] ng [3:33:55] human [3:33:55] trafficking [3:33:56] Nabanggit [3:33:58] ko po yun [3:33:59] para lang [3:34:00] magbigay [3:34:00] ng [3:34:00] example [3:34:01] na [3:34:02] hindi [3:34:02] lahat [3:34:03] ng [3:34:03] alam [3:34:03] nila [3:34:03] ay [3:34:04] nailagay [3:34:04] po [3:34:04] dito [3:34:05] sa [3:34:05] affidavit [3:34:05] at [3:34:06] nabanggit [3:34:07] ko [3:34:07] yung [3:34:07] example [3:34:07] po [3:34:08] na [3:34:08] yun [3:34:08] dahil [3:34:08] napakabigat [3:34:09] po [3:34:09] na [3:34:10] krimen [3:34:10] yun [3:34:11] eh [3:34:11] yung [3:34:12] human [3:34:13] trafficking [3:34:14] I think [3:34:14] under [3:34:14] new law [3:34:15] 11362 [3:34:16] punishable [3:34:17] by 15 [3:34:17] to 20 [3:34:18] years [3:34:18] plus [3:34:19] perpetual [3:34:20] disqualification [3:34:21] to hold [3:34:21] public [3:34:21] office [3:34:22] and [3:34:23] isang [3:34:24] mataas [3:34:24] na [3:34:24] official [3:34:25] ang [3:34:25] gumagawa [3:34:25] noon [3:34:26] ang [3:34:28] sabi [3:34:28] pangaho [3:34:28] nila [3:34:29] ay [3:34:29] minsan [3:34:29] nagpapakuha [3:34:31] ng limang [3:34:31] babae [3:34:32] pagpipilian [3:34:34] niya [3:34:35] yung hindi [3:34:35] niya [3:34:35] nagustuhan [3:34:36] bibigyan [3:34:36] niya [3:34:37] ng tip [3:34:37] then [3:34:38] maiwan [3:34:39] yung [3:34:39] napili [3:34:39] niya [3:34:39] and [3:34:40] it did [3:34:41] not [3:34:41] happen [3:34:41] once [3:34:42] it [3:34:42] did [3:34:43] not [3:34:43] happen [3:34:43] twice [3:34:44] marami [3:34:45] po [3:34:45] sa [3:34:46] may [3:34:47] das [3:34:47] minsan [3:34:48] sa [3:34:48] shangrila [3:34:51] sinabi [3:34:52] lang [3:34:52] sa iyo [3:34:53] yan [3:34:53] sinabi [3:34:54] rin [3:34:54] po [3:34:54] pati [3:34:55] pangalan [3:34:55] hindi [3:34:56] ikinwento [3:34:57] lang [3:34:57] sa iyo [3:34:57] yan [3:34:57] sino [3:34:59] makakapagpatunay [3:35:00] kung sino [3:35:01] yung binabanggit [3:35:01] mong [3:35:01] opisyal [3:35:02] na yan [3:35:02] nandito [3:35:03] po yung [3:35:04] dalawa [3:35:05] na naka [3:35:05] experience [3:35:06] nasama [3:35:06] ho silang [3:35:07] nagatid [3:35:08] nung [3:35:09] babae [3:35:11] at [3:35:11] teka [3:35:11] teka [3:35:12] ilang [3:35:13] pagkakataon [3:35:13] dalawa [3:35:14] dalawa [3:35:15] beses [3:35:15] po [3:35:15] so [3:35:16] mamimili [3:35:17] siya [3:35:17] mula [3:35:18] sa lima [3:35:18] ganoon [3:35:19] minsan [3:35:20] tatlo [3:35:20] minsan [3:35:21] dalawa [3:35:21] ang dadalin [3:35:22] po [3:35:22] namimili [3:35:23] muna [3:35:24] siya [3:35:24] namimili [3:35:24] and then [3:35:25] yung [3:35:25] napili [3:35:26] niya [3:35:26] may iwan [3:35:27] doon [3:35:27] at alam po nila [3:35:29] kung sino yung [3:35:30] mambabatas na yun [3:35:32] dahil [3:35:34] hinahatid po nila [3:35:35] sa kwarto [3:35:35] yung babae [3:35:37] yung siguro [3:35:46] kung sino nalang [3:35:46] nakakaalam [3:35:47] kasi sinabi lang [3:35:48] sa'yo [3:35:48] mahirap naman yun [3:35:49] baka mamaya [3:35:50] mabanggit mo [3:35:52] hindi naman totoo [3:35:53] yung magtapat na lang [3:35:54] yung talagang nakakita [3:35:55] ng sinasabi mo [3:35:57] at patunayan po ninyo [3:35:58] na [3:35:58] ang sinasabi ni [3:35:59] Atty. Baligod [3:36:00] ay totoo [3:36:01] Your Honor [3:36:03] ako po yung [3:36:03] naka-experience [3:36:04] doon [3:36:04] sa Maydas [3:36:05] Pwede yung [3:36:05] pakidetalye po ninyo [3:36:08] Your Honor [3:36:08] unang dumating po [3:36:10] yung [3:36:10] BIP [3:36:11] Sino po yung [3:36:12] BIP? [3:36:15] Si [3:36:16] Senator Erwin [3:36:17] Tulfo [3:36:18] Your Honor [3:36:19] Tapos po [3:36:21] maya-maya [3:36:22] dumating din po [3:36:23] yung dalawang babae [3:36:24] pinagkat po namin [3:36:25] doon sa [3:36:25] presiden [3:36:26] Akala ko [3:36:26] tatlong pinagpipili yan [3:36:28] pinakamababa [3:36:28] lima [3:36:29] dalawa lang pala [3:36:31] Yung sa akin po [3:36:32] pero maraming beses po [3:36:34] hindi lang po sa Maydas [3:36:35] meron din po sa Shangri-La [3:36:36] lima [3:36:37] tatlo po [3:36:37] ang dinadala [3:36:38] O kulang ang nabalitaan mo [3:36:40] sabi mo kasi [3:36:40] dalawang beses lang [3:36:41] Atty. Baligod [3:36:42] ayon sa kanila [3:36:43] maraming beses [3:36:44] Saan-saang lugar? [3:36:47] Yung na-experience ko po [3:36:49] sa Shangri-La po [3:36:50] at saka sa [3:36:51] Maydas po [3:36:52] O sino pa sa inyo? [3:36:58] Meron pa sa [3:36:58] Sa akin [3:37:00] Yoronor [3:37:01] sa team [3:37:02] EEC [3:37:03] namumonitor ko rin [3:37:04] Yoronor [3:37:05] kasi [3:37:06] nandyan lang kami [3:37:07] sa paligid [3:37:08] sa survivor chat namin [3:37:09] na [3:37:10] nandyan na dumating [3:37:11] na sa lobby [3:37:13] yung babae [3:37:14] i-guide nyo na [3:37:15] ganun lang po [3:37:16] yung experience ko po [3:37:17] Ganun din yung [3:37:22] pangalan [3:37:23] o binanggit [3:37:24] ng kasama mo [3:37:24] kapareho rin? [3:37:27] Yes Yoronor [3:37:28] Mr. Chairman [3:37:37] The issue [3:37:38] kasi here is [3:37:39] bakit [3:37:40] ayaw ituloy to [3:37:41] and if [3:37:42] ginamit ni [3:37:43] Senator Soto [3:37:44] at Senator [3:37:45] Lakson [3:37:45] for false [3:37:47] accusation [3:37:48] or [3:37:48] selective [3:37:49] justice [3:37:50] because [3:37:51] lumalabas dito [3:37:52] magkakampi yung [3:37:53] DOJ [3:37:55] ombudsman [3:37:55] at witnesses [3:37:56] at sila nakakapili [3:37:58] kung sino [3:38:02] ang state witness [3:38:03] at hindi [3:38:04] Ang aking balita [3:38:06] sa case [3:38:06] ni Senator [3:38:07] Joel [3:38:07] Villanueva [3:38:08] in fact [3:38:09] apat yung version [3:38:11] na lumabas dito [3:38:12] tapos [3:38:13] bumaliktad na nga [3:38:14] yung dalawa [3:38:15] so medyo [3:38:18] magulo yung [3:38:18] mga [3:38:19] storya [3:38:20] so I was just [3:38:21] really surprised [3:38:22] bakit [3:38:23] ganun ang reaction [3:38:24] alam mo [3:38:25] nung nagumpisa to [3:38:26] hindi natin kalaban [3:38:27] ang Malacanang [3:38:28] yung dito sa [3:38:29] changing of [3:38:30] here [3:38:31] in fact [3:38:31] may mga dialogues [3:38:32] through [3:38:33] informal channels [3:38:34] para sabihin [3:38:35] trabaho tayo [3:38:36] economics [3:38:36] impartial na [3:38:38] impeachment [3:38:39] meaning [3:38:40] fair sa dalawang side [3:38:42] pero nagulat kami [3:38:43] bakit ganyan reaction [3:38:44] at ayaw talaga [3:38:45] matuloy ito [3:38:46] so yung pala [3:38:47] may mga personality [3:38:48] na nababanggit [3:38:49] from the [3:38:51] 11 senators [3:38:52] and then yung [3:38:53] nabanggit ko kanina [3:38:54] na may tinatakot [3:38:55] na ilan [3:38:56] miembro [3:38:57] na babanggitin [3:38:58] o [3:38:59] hindi [3:39:00] so I really [3:39:01] hope that you [3:39:02] will have your [3:39:02] day in court [3:39:03] so to speak [3:39:04] meaning [3:39:04] a real [3:39:06] interview [3:39:06] by the [3:39:07] DOJ [3:39:07] by the [3:39:08] office of [3:39:12] the [3:39:12] ombudsman [3:39:13] I think [3:39:14] attorney [3:39:14] the [3:39:15] individual [3:39:16] affidavits [3:39:17] will be [3:39:17] important [3:39:17] and I [3:39:18] really hope [3:39:18] you keep [3:39:19] your [3:39:19] together [3:39:19] and [3:39:21] mananawagan [3:39:23] lang ako [3:39:23] sa mga [3:39:23] kababayan [3:39:23] natin [3:39:24] kung [3:39:24] kayo [3:39:24] naniniwala [3:39:25] sa [3:39:25] grupo [3:39:26] yun nga [3:39:27] they're [3:39:27] existing [3:39:28] now [3:39:28] by [3:39:28] ambag [3:39:29] ambag [3:39:29] I [3:39:31] don't [3:39:31] know [3:39:31] how [3:39:31] but [3:39:32] siguro [3:39:32] through [3:39:32] attorney [3:39:33] baligod [3:39:34] because [3:39:34] their [3:39:34] daily [3:39:35] lives [3:39:35] nung [3:39:35] kalilang [3:39:36] pamilya [3:39:36] continues [3:39:36] and [3:39:38] we [3:39:38] don't [3:39:38] know [3:39:38] if [3:39:38] this [3:39:40] scandal [3:39:40] will [3:39:40] be [3:39:41] one [3:39:43] week [3:39:43] one [3:39:44] month [3:39:44] one [3:39:44] year [3:39:45] because [3:39:45] tip [3:39:46] of [3:39:46] the [3:39:46] when [3:39:50] was [3:39:50] the [3:39:50] first [3:39:50] delivery [3:39:51] sir [3:39:55] pa [3:39:56] kay [3:39:56] Mike [3:39:56] lang [3:39:56] September [3:39:58] 2022 [3:39:59] and [3:39:59] they [3:40:00] took [3:40:00] office [3:40:00] June [3:40:01] 30 [3:40:01] so [3:40:02] regardless [3:40:03] saan [3:40:07] galing [3:40:07] ang [3:40:07] pera [3:40:08] it [3:40:08] only [3:40:09] took [3:40:09] July [3:40:09] August [3:40:10] September [3:40:11] it [3:40:12] only [3:40:12] late [3:40:13] July [3:40:13] kasi [3:40:14] hindi [3:40:14] siya [3:40:15] naging [3:40:15] APRO [3:40:16] until [3:40:17] SONE [3:40:17] after [3:40:18] SONE [3:40:18] so [3:40:19] August [3:40:19] September [3:40:20] so [3:40:20] parang [3:40:20] dalawang [3:40:21] buwan [3:40:21] pa lang [3:40:21] may [3:40:22] delivery [3:40:23] na [3:40:23] so [3:40:24] we're [3:40:24] talking [3:40:24] about [3:40:25] corruption [3:40:26] scandals [3:40:26] that [3:40:27] were [3:40:27] already [3:40:27] in [3:40:27] existence [3:40:28] 2022 [3:40:29] 23 [3:40:29] 24 [3:40:30] bago [3:40:31] to [3:40:31] sumabog [3:40:31] lahat [3:40:31] ng [3:40:32] 2025 [3:40:33] so [3:40:35] Mr. [3:40:35] Chairman [3:40:35] I [3:40:35] hope [3:40:36] nga [3:40:36] that [3:40:36] people [3:40:37] will [3:40:37] continue [3:40:37] to [3:40:38] help [3:40:38] us [3:40:38] point [3:40:40] us [3:40:40] the [3:40:40] right [3:40:40] direction [3:40:41] yung [3:40:41] mga [3:40:41] tamang [3:40:42] witness [3:40:42] and [3:40:43] kabalit [3:40:43] ran [3:40:44] kung may [3:40:44] nanonood [3:40:45] ngayon [3:40:45] natingin [3:40:45] nyo [3:40:46] ng [3:40:46] bobola [3:40:46] nabayaran [3:40:48] nagsisinungaling [3:40:49] ang mga [3:40:50] kaharap [3:40:50] namin [3:40:51] ngayon [3:40:51] give us [3:40:52] the [3:40:52] information [3:40:52] so [3:40:53] that [3:40:54] we [3:40:54] will [3:40:54] test [3:40:54] their [3:40:55] credibility [3:40:55] thank [3:40:56] you [3:40:56] Mr. [3:40:56] Chairman [3:40:57] from [3:40:57] my [3:40:57] side [3:40:57] I [3:40:58] think [3:40:58] we [3:40:58] should [3:40:58] give [3:40:58] them [3:40:59] rest [3:40:59] I [3:40:59] hope [3:40:59] we'll [3:41:00] be [3:41:00] safe [3:41:00] but [3:41:00] I [3:41:01] think [3:41:02] it's [3:41:02] very [3:41:02] important [3:41:02] we [3:41:03] schedule [3:41:03] a [3:41:03] hearing [3:41:03] next [3:41:04] thing [3:41:04] I [3:41:04] think [3:41:04] I [3:41:04] think [3:41:04] I [3:41:04] will [3:41:04] give up [3:41:05] the [3:41:05] Senate [3:41:06] presidency [3:41:10] but [3:41:11] I'm [3:41:11] serious [3:41:12] Mr. [3:41:12] Chairman [3:41:12] I'm [3:41:13] willing [3:41:13] to [3:41:13] give up [3:41:13] the [3:41:14] Senate [3:41:14] presidency [3:41:14] for [3:41:16] just so [3:41:17] that [3:41:17] the [3:41:17] Constitution [3:41:18] but [3:41:18] I'm [3:41:19] not [3:41:19] willing [3:41:19] to [3:41:19] give up [3:41:19] the [3:41:20] truth [3:41:20] I [3:41:20] need [3:41:21] to [3:41:21] keep [3:41:21] the [3:41:21] hearings [3:41:22] Thank [3:41:23] you [3:41:23] Mr. [3:41:23] Chairman [3:41:23] Thank [3:41:23] you [3:41:24] Mr. [3:41:24] SP [3:41:24] I [3:41:25] share [3:41:26] your [3:41:26] optimism [3:41:27] as well [3:41:27] as [3:41:27] your [3:41:27] frustration [3:41:28] like [3:41:30] you [3:41:30] I [3:41:30] do [3:41:31] not [3:41:31] wish [3:41:32] to [3:41:33] hold [3:41:33] the [3:41:34] chairmanship [3:41:34] of [3:41:35] the [3:41:35] Blue [3:41:35] Ribbon [3:41:35] Committee [3:41:36] I [3:41:53] Ito [3:41:55] nga [3:41:55] yung [3:41:56] pinakikiusap [3:41:57] sino [3:41:57] man [3:41:58] ang [3:41:58] gustong [3:42:00] humawak [3:42:00] ng [3:42:00] responsibilidad [3:42:01] na ito [3:42:01] okay [3:42:03] lang [3:42:03] po [3:42:03] sa [3:42:03] amin [3:42:04] basta [3:42:05] sana [3:42:05] magkaroon [3:42:06] lamang [3:42:07] sila [3:42:08] ng [3:42:08] kaseryosohan [3:42:11] sa pananagutan [3:42:12] na gawin [3:42:12] natin [3:42:12] ito [3:42:13] alang-alang [3:42:14] sa ating [3:42:14] bansa [3:42:14] hindi [3:42:15] alang-alang [3:42:16] sa pansariling [3:42:16] interest [3:42:17] sapagkat [3:42:18] mga [3:42:19] pangalan [3:42:19] pala [3:42:19] nila [3:42:20] ang [3:42:20] nababanggit [3:42:21] dito [3:42:21] sa maraming [3:42:22] pahina [3:42:24] ng inyong [3:42:24] pinagsamang [3:42:25] salaysay [3:42:25] kaya pala [3:42:26] ang ginagawa [3:42:27] nila [3:42:27] ay [3:42:28] ibes [3:42:28] na [3:42:28] ituloy [3:42:28] ay [3:42:29] ayaw [3:42:29] nilang [3:42:29] ituloy [3:42:30] kaya [3:42:31] hindi [3:42:31] po [3:42:31] natin [3:42:31] alam [3:42:32] kung [3:42:33] ito [3:42:33] na [3:42:33] yung [3:42:33] huli [3:42:34] nating [3:42:34] pagdinig [3:42:34] o [3:42:35] maari [3:42:35] pa tayo [3:42:35] magkaroon [3:42:36] ng [3:42:36] pagdinig [3:42:36] depende [3:42:37] po [3:42:37] kung [3:42:37] may [3:42:38] pagtatagumpay [3:42:39] nila [3:42:39] ang [3:42:40] kanilang [3:42:40] layunin [3:42:41] na [3:42:41] talagang [3:42:42] takpan [3:42:45] na [3:42:45] putulin [3:42:46] na [3:42:46] bigyan [3:42:48] na [3:42:48] ng [3:42:48] katapusan [3:42:51] ang [3:42:51] pagdinig [3:42:52] na ito [3:42:53] ngayon [3:42:54] lamang [3:42:54] sa [3:42:54] ilalim [3:42:55] ng [3:42:55] atmosphere [3:42:56] na [3:42:56] ginagawa [3:42:56] natin [3:42:57] ngayon [3:42:57] napapansin [3:42:58] din [3:42:59] yun [3:42:59] nandyan [3:42:59] po [3:42:59] yung [3:43:00] pressure [3:43:00] na [3:43:00] nakabantay [3:43:01] sa atin [3:43:01] ngunit [3:43:02] ako [3:43:03] naniniwala [3:43:03] kagaya [3:43:03] na [3:43:04] sinabi [3:43:04] ni [3:43:05] SP [3:43:06] Allan [3:43:06] hindi [3:43:07] po [3:43:08] pwedeng [3:43:08] takpan [3:43:09] ng [3:43:09] katotohanan [3:43:09] wala [3:43:10] pong [3:43:11] mabuting [3:43:12] ibubunga [3:43:13] na itong [3:43:14] pinakamalaking [3:43:15] pandarambong [3:43:16] sa kaban [3:43:16] ng bayan [3:43:17] ay hindi [3:43:18] man lang [3:43:18] mabibigyan [3:43:19] ng [3:43:20] kalutasan [3:43:20] hindi [3:43:21] man lang [3:43:21] magkakaroon [3:43:22] ng ending [3:43:23] para [3:43:23] mapanagot [3:43:24] natin [3:43:24] ang tunay [3:43:25] na may [3:43:26] kasalanan [3:43:26] hindi po [3:43:27] tayo [3:43:28] patatawarin [3:43:29] ng taong [3:43:29] bayan [3:43:30] kapag [3:43:30] hindi po [3:43:31] ito [3:43:31] natuloy [3:43:32] ngayon [3:43:33] kung gusto [3:43:34] po nilang [3:43:34] ituloy [3:43:34] ito [3:43:35] sa ilalim [3:43:35] ng kanilang [3:43:36] pamumuno [3:43:36] nasa sa [3:43:38] kanila [3:43:39] po [3:43:39] yan [3:43:39] pero [3:43:40] sasagutin [3:43:40] nila [3:43:41] sa taong [3:43:41] bayan [3:43:41] ano [3:43:42] po [3:43:42] gagawin [3:43:42] nila [3:43:42] itutuloy [3:43:43] po [3:43:43] ba [3:43:43] nila [3:43:43] o [3:43:44] gagawin [3:43:45] din [3:43:45] nila [3:43:45] yung [3:43:45] nangyari [3:43:46] nung [3:43:46] sila [3:43:46] po [3:43:46] ang [3:43:48] leadership [3:43:48] ng [3:43:48] senado [3:43:49] na [3:43:57] patuloy [3:43:57] ang [3:43:58] pagdinig [3:43:58] na ito [3:43:59] gumawa [3:44:00] sila [3:44:00] ng [3:44:00] partial [3:44:00] report [3:44:01] at [3:44:02] pinapipirma [3:44:03] kami [3:44:03] kahit [3:44:05] sino [3:44:05] naman [3:44:06] po [3:44:06] sa [3:44:06] inyo [3:44:07] ang [3:44:07] bibigyan [3:44:08] ng [3:44:08] assignment [3:44:09] ng [3:44:09] inyong [3:44:09] mga [3:44:10] principal [3:44:10] o [3:44:11] inyong [3:44:11] mga [3:44:12] boss [3:44:14] na mayroong [3:44:17] pinagagawang [3:44:18] isang [3:44:18] bagay [3:44:18] magulat [3:44:19] ka [3:44:19] magreport [3:44:20] ka [3:44:20] ibibigay [3:44:20] mo [3:44:20] sa [3:44:21] kanya [3:44:21] kalahati [3:44:21] lang [3:44:22] hindi [3:44:23] tatanggap [3:44:23] ng [3:44:24] management [3:44:25] o [3:44:25] kahit [3:44:26] sinungahensya [3:44:27] kailangan [3:44:28] kasi [3:44:28] kompleto [3:44:30] bago [3:44:33] lahat [3:44:36] ng [3:44:37] kondisyon [3:44:37] kagaya [3:44:38] ninyo [3:44:40] ang [3:44:40] kondisyon [3:44:41] kailangan [3:44:41] mapatibayan [3:44:42] hanggat [3:44:43] hindi [3:44:43] niya [3:44:44] napapatunay [3:44:45] sa sarili [3:44:46] niyang [3:44:46] panukat [3:44:46] na kayo [3:44:47] nagsasabi [3:44:48] ng [3:44:48] totoo [3:44:48] kailan [3:44:49] man [3:44:49] hindi [3:44:49] kayo [3:44:50] ipatatawag [3:44:51] kung [3:44:51] hindi [3:44:51] pa [3:44:52] nagkaroon [3:44:52] ng [3:44:52] pagkakataong [3:44:53] kagaya [3:44:53] nito [3:44:53] na [3:44:54] marinig [3:44:54] kayo [3:44:54] ng [3:44:54] buong [3:44:55] sambayanan [3:44:55] hindi [3:44:56] sana [3:44:56] kayo [3:44:57] nagkaroon [3:44:57] ng [3:44:57] pagkakataong [3:44:58] na [3:44:58] ganun [3:44:59] po [3:44:59] kahirap [3:45:01] ang [3:45:02] dinadala [3:45:02] namin [3:45:03] responsibilidad [3:45:03] makita [3:45:04] lang [3:45:05] natin [3:45:05] malaman [3:45:07] lang [3:45:07] natin [3:45:08] ang [3:45:08] kabubukan [3:45:09] ng [3:45:10] pasel [3:45:11] na ito [3:45:11] na [3:45:11] kung tawagin [3:45:12] natin [3:45:12] ay [3:45:12] flood [3:45:13] control [3:45:13] scandal [3:45:14] trilyong [3:45:15] piso [3:45:15] ang [3:45:15] winaldas [3:45:16] ninakaw [3:45:17] sa pera [3:45:18] ng [3:45:18] bayan [3:45:19] pera [3:45:19] ng [3:45:19] tao [3:45:20] ang [3:45:20] nagnakaw [3:45:21] sa [3:45:21] tanghaling [3:45:22] tapat [3:45:22] hindi [3:45:23] po [3:45:23] nakamaskara [3:45:24] nakakurbata [3:45:26] po [3:45:26] nakabarong [3:45:26] lahat [3:45:27] pagkatapos [3:45:28] ayaw [3:45:29] nilang [3:45:30] ituloy [3:45:31] ang [3:45:31] pagdinig [3:45:32] na ito [3:45:32] masama [3:45:34] po ba [3:45:34] na magsama [3:45:35] kami [3:45:36] bakit [3:45:37] po [3:45:37] sila [3:45:37] nagalit [3:45:38] sa amin [3:45:38] nung [3:45:39] sabihin [3:45:39] namin [3:45:40] ituloy [3:45:40] natin [3:45:40] ito [3:45:43] ayaw [3:45:43] po ba [3:45:44] nilang [3:45:44] yung [3:45:45] tungkulin [3:45:46] na yun [3:45:46] ay [3:45:47] pagsilbihan [3:45:49] nilang [3:45:49] taong [3:45:49] bayan [3:45:50] pera [3:45:50] po [3:45:50] nila [3:45:51] ang [3:45:51] nawaldas [3:45:52] pera [3:45:52] ang [3:45:52] nawala [3:45:53] katungkulan [3:45:54] po [3:45:54] natin [3:45:55] na hanapin [3:45:56] yun [3:45:56] alang-alang [3:45:57] sa sinumpaan [3:45:57] naming [3:45:58] tungkulin [3:45:58] na ang [3:46:01] ating [3:46:01] mamamayan [3:46:01] ang [3:46:02] mauna [3:46:02] sa lahat [3:46:02] ng [3:46:03] bagay [3:46:03] hindi [3:46:05] kailanman [3:46:05] ipagpapauna [3:46:06] ang sarili [3:46:06] ng [3:46:07] interes [3:46:07] nakita [3:46:07] na po [3:46:08] natin [3:46:08] ngayon [3:46:08] kaya [3:46:09] po pala [3:46:09] ganun [3:46:09] ang kanilang [3:46:10] patakaran [3:46:11] e sangkot [3:46:15] pala [3:46:18] yung marami [3:46:18] sa kanila [3:46:19] so kami [3:46:22] po ngayon [3:46:23] ay magpapasalamat [3:46:24] sa inyo [3:46:24] kung tayo [3:46:26] ipapalarin [3:46:27] magkikita-kitang [3:46:28] muli [3:46:28] sa susunod [3:46:28] ng pagdinig [3:46:29] sana [3:46:30] may pagpatuloy [3:46:31] natin [3:46:31] para [3:46:31] mabuksan [3:46:32] lahat [3:46:32] ang dapat [3:46:33] nabuksan [3:46:34] yung inyo [3:46:35] pong [3:46:35] mga [3:46:35] individual [3:46:35] affidavits [3:46:36] ipagkaloob [3:46:37] po ninyo [3:46:37] sa [3:46:37] komite [3:46:38] yan po [3:46:39] ay magiging [3:46:39] parte [3:46:40] ng pagdinig [3:46:40] sa araw [3:46:41] na ito [3:46:41] sana [3:46:42] ikasihan [3:46:42] po tayo [3:46:43] ng Panginoon [3:46:44] Diyos [3:46:45] sapagat [3:46:46] ang ginagawa [3:46:46] natin [3:46:47] ay para [3:46:47] sa bansa [3:46:47] at kami [3:46:48] ay naniniwala [3:46:49] na ang inyong [3:46:49] pagsasakripisyo [3:46:50] at pagsasakit [3:46:51] ay hindi [3:46:52] pumawawala [3:46:53] ng katuturan [3:46:54] magiging [3:46:59] may [3:47:02] I [3:47:02] suggest [3:47:02] we [3:47:02] simply [3:47:03] suspend [3:47:03] instead [3:47:04] of [3:47:04] adjourn [3:47:05] so [3:47:06] that [3:47:06] the [3:47:06] invitations [3:47:07] are [3:47:08] still [3:47:08] valid [3:47:08] live [3:47:09] and [3:47:09] then [3:47:09] also [3:47:10] so [3:47:11] that [3:47:11] if [3:47:11] we [3:47:12] need [3:47:12] to [3:47:12] meet [3:47:12] sooner [3:47:14] it [3:47:15] will [3:47:16] be [3:47:16] easier [3:47:16] to [3:47:17] inform [3:47:17] everyone [3:47:17] if [3:47:19] this [3:47:19] fine [3:47:20] with [3:47:20] the [3:47:21] chairman [3:47:21] yes [3:47:23] mr. [3:47:23] president [3:47:24] suspend [3:47:25] the [3:47:25] hearing [3:47:27] not [3:47:27] suspend [3:47:28] me [3:47:28] mr. [3:47:28] session [3:47:29] like [3:47:29] what [3:47:29] the [3:47:29] 11 [3:47:30] wants [3:47:30] to [3:47:30] do [3:47:31] yes [3:47:31] it [3:47:31] will [3:47:31] be [3:47:32] remain [3:47:32] suspended [3:47:33] kasi [3:47:33] marami [3:47:33] po tayong [3:47:34] kukunin [3:47:34] binanggit [3:47:35] po ninyong [3:47:35] mga [3:47:35] addresses [3:47:36] na [3:47:37] kung saan [3:47:37] dinala [3:47:37] yung [3:47:38] mga [3:47:38] pera [3:47:38] may [3:47:38] patatawag [3:47:39] po tayong [3:47:39] mga [3:47:39] tao [3:47:40] para [3:47:40] i-confirm [3:47:40] po [3:47:41] na talagang [3:47:42] na-delivery [3:47:43] yun [3:47:43] yung mga [3:47:43] sasakyan [3:47:43] na ginamit [3:47:44] sino yung [3:47:44] mga [3:47:45] guardiyang [3:47:45] na doon [3:47:46] pati [3:47:46] po [3:47:46] mga [3:47:46] plate [3:47:46] number [3:47:47] na [3:47:47] sasakyan [3:47:47] mga [3:47:48] kulay [3:47:48] lahat [3:47:48] po [3:47:48] ito [3:47:49] ay [3:47:49] kakailanganin [3:47:50] para [3:47:51] sa ganon [3:47:51] magkaroon [3:47:52] ng katibayan [3:47:52] lahat [3:47:53] ang mga [3:47:53] isanaysay [3:47:54] ninyo [3:47:54] sa inyong [3:47:55] pinagsamang [3:47:55] sworn statement [3:47:57] maliban pa [3:47:58] sa mga [3:47:58] isusunod po [3:47:59] ninyong [3:47:59] mga [3:47:59] individual [3:48:00] na [3:48:01] sworn [3:48:01] statements [3:48:02] para [3:48:02] lalo pong [3:48:03] malaman natin [3:48:05] lalong-lalo [3:48:06] na po [3:48:06] sa mga [3:48:06] personalidad [3:48:07] nabanggit [3:48:39] at pagkatapos [3:48:40] sasabihin [3:48:41] labing isa [3:48:42] labing dalawa [3:48:42] pwede na mag-elect [3:48:43] ng senate [3:48:43] ang [3:48:44] pinapoint out ko lang [3:48:45] Mr. Chairman [3:48:47] hindi tayo kapit to ko [3:48:48] diba [3:48:49] if we find the right person [3:48:51] that can bring us to the truth [3:48:53] then so be it [3:48:53] thank you Mr. Chairman [3:48:55] Mr. President [3:48:57] so [3:48:58] we suspend the session [3:49:01] until [3:49:03] until further notice [3:49:06] we suspend the hearing [3:49:07] until further notice [3:49:08] makakakuha po kayo [3:49:11] ng notice [3:49:12] mula sa [3:49:12] komite [3:49:12] kung kailan po natin [3:49:14] itutuloy [3:49:14] anong araw [3:49:15] at anong oras [3:49:16] salamat po sa inyong [3:49:17] panahon [3:49:17] salamat po sa inyong [3:49:19] sakripisyo