Senate committee on foreign relations hears Nuclear Safety and Compensation Conventions

[0:00] you. Thank you, Director Kandao. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this hearing is a continuation of our [0:09] previous session held on April 14, 2026, during which we began our deliberations on four key [0:16] conventions relating to nuclear liability and safety. Today, we will address a few remaining [0:23] clarifications regarding the Convention on Nuclear Safety and the protocol to amend the Vienna [0:29] Convention on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage. Following that, we will proceed with our [0:35] discussion on the Convention on Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage, as well as the [0:41] Joint Convention on the Safety of Spent Fuel Management and on the Safety of Radioactive [0:47] Waste Management. Let us now take up these nuclear conventions for our consideration. Thank you very [0:54] much. And we now proceed with the hearing. Before we begin, I wish to remind the Department of Foreign [1:01] Affairs to submit the requested data regarding the protocol to amend the Vienna Convention [1:07] on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage, specifically the matrix detailing the amendments and their [1:13] corresponding justifications. Furthermore, the Department of Science and Technology [1:18] previously committed to submitting the draft Implementing Rules and Regulation of the [1:23] Philippine National Nuclear Energy Safety Act. Will you be able to do that, DOSD, to submit [1:35] to this committee? In behalf of the Department of Science and Technology, we did submit already [1:41] through the central office, the draft IRR, through the DOSD central office. So we will just follow [1:50] up on it, sir, because we have already sent it like two weeks ago. Please do so, Director Samson. [1:57] All right. To date, the committee has yet to receive this document. Thank you for letting [2:04] us know. I urge the concerned agencies to expedite these submissions as these materials are vital [2:10] for us to effectively defend this nuclear safety and liability instruments before the plenary. [2:17] With that, we now open the floor. Or before that, we'd like to acknowledge the presence of Senator [2:24] Wayne Gachalian. Do you have any opening statement, Senwin? [2:30] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Mr. Chairman, for putting on schedule the four conventions [2:37] that we urgently need before we can proceed with our nuclear power agenda. These conventions are meant to [2:49] make us on the same footing with other global countries that are now producing nuclear power. [2:57] So this is a sign of confidence for the Philippines. And this is also a way to show that we are adhering [3:04] to very strict standards in terms of safety, waste disposal, and other issues relating to nuclear power. [3:12] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Senwin. Well, just a recap. We will be discussing today the Convention of [3:27] Supplementary Compensation for Nuclear Damage and the Joint Convention on the Safety of Spent Fuel Management. [3:33] I would like to address my question now to the National Disaster Risk Redaction Management Council [3:39] concerning the Convention on Nuclear Safety. Anybody from NDRRMC? There you go. [3:49] I can barely see your name, sir. Could you please identify yourself? [3:54] My name is Attorney Rafael Ricaldi, sir. I'm the Legal and Legislative Officer of the Office of Civil Defense. [4:01] Alright. Then my question will be, what are the formal coordination mechanisms that are established [4:07] by the NDRRMC? [4:09] Para iyo po ba ang ikipag-ugnayan po sa DOST, ang inyo pong ahensya? Para wherein ikaw nga [4:16] same music, wherein ikaw nga pareho po ang ating pagkakaintindi? [4:25] Yes, sir. So currently, sir, the NDRRMC is already adopting the National Disaster Response Plan, [4:32] or the NDRRMC, for the Chemical, Biological, Radioactive, and Nuclear, or the CBRN Hazards. [4:40] And we are in close coordination pa with the PNRI for the formulation of the Radiological Emergency [4:46] Preparedness and Response Plan, or the RAD plan, sir. [4:50] It was mentioned last hearing by the PNRI that the Nuclear Energy Programme Interagency Committee [4:56] has already developed the National Radiological Nuclear Emergency Preparedness and Response Plan, [5:04] and that it was already submitted to your office. Do you confirm the submission? [5:10] Yes, sir. We confirmed the submission. [5:12] Okay. And then, what are the trainings and preparations conducted by the NDRRMC in accordance to the said plan? [5:21] Paano ba natin inihahanda ang ating mga kababayan sa mga sakunan na nagdala ng nuclear incidents? [5:25] Meron na po ba tayong ikang mga protocols? Meron na po ba tayong ikang manual on what to do? [5:34] Para pag sa ganun ay mapag-aralan na po ng mga ahensya, ng mga kababayan po natin on things to do, [5:43] just in case nagkaroon po ng problema. [5:47] Sir, currently we're still formulating the trainings for the implementation of the Office of Civil Defense, sir, [5:54] through our Civil Defense Training Service, sir. [5:59] Okay. Gaano po kaya katagal? Can you give us a time frame, sir? [6:04] Hopefully, sir, we can have the plans within this year, sir, and implementation for 2027, sir. [6:12] Realistic po ba yan yung inyong plans at saka implementation for 2027? [6:17] I believe pag ganito po, kailangan po natin ang mga equipment, kailangan po natin ang hindi lang po training, [6:24] hindi lang po ikang... This is different from earthquake drills that we do, di po ba? [6:29] This is different, very different from... Kasi po, doon eh, di po natin kailangan ng gamit. [6:35] Kailangan lang natin mag-cover, dock, di po ba? [6:38] But this is nuclear, so we will need equipment for this, attorney, to... [6:44] Ika nga, for the safety of our people. [6:49] Ang tanong po diyan, who will purchase? [6:52] Saan po tayo kukuha ng mga equipments nito, yung mga nuclear, ika nga, outfits to prevent parang... [7:04] Para hindi po makontaminate, mahawa yung ating mga kababayan. [7:09] Napag-usapan na po ba ito? [7:11] Not yet, sir. We're currently formulating pa lang po the plan for the training session, sir. [7:17] But as for the equipment, sir, we completely agree, sir, that this needs to be thought out for really, sir. [7:23] Especially for the purchase of the equipments for the detection of radiation for Geiger counters. [7:29] Also for the radiation containment equipment, sir. [7:34] Alright. Senwin, do you have any questions? [7:37] Thank you. [7:39] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [7:40] Mr. Chairman, I just have basic questions lang. [7:43] And let me direct this to maybe DOE because this concerns nuclear energy. [7:52] And just basic questions, Mr. Chairman. [7:54] Meron tayong apat na international treaties and conventions na pinag-uusapan ngayon [8:05] and we want this approved sa Department. [8:10] Kay Director Aquino, itong mga conventions and treaties, [8:19] what is the significance of this to the implementation or to the rollout of our nuclear power agenda? [8:28] Anong importance nito? [8:32] Thank you, Mr. Yoy Chair. [8:34] As we've been discussing in the previous hearings and even before the public, [8:40] part of the obligations of the Philippines, [8:43] if we are an embarking country for a nuclear power program, [8:47] is to ratify all relevant conventions and treaties [8:51] in relation to the peaceful civilian uses of nuclear energy. [8:55] As outlined in the Philippine Nuclear Energy Plan, [8:59] our target is to be able to have a clear licensing framework, [9:04] which thankfully our Congress and Senate has already passed with Philatom. [9:08] But part of the requirements as we engage private sector in building up the capacities, [9:15] particularly for the entry of a nuclear power plant, [9:19] they will be looking at these four key conventions that is under consideration [9:23] to provide for certainty among others on the extent of liability [9:28] in our compliance with the safety, safeguard, security requirements outlined in the IAEA. [9:34] Our colleagues earlier in the previous hearing already extolled the nature of these conventions. [9:40] They provided updates on why this is essential. [9:43] And with the issuance of the executive order indicating that the Philippines adopt the national position [9:50] for nuclear for power generation, [9:53] the DOE through the Nuclear Energy Program Interagency Committee [9:56] has worked as a whole of government to secure the concurrence [10:00] and hence the endorsement for the urgent consideration of the Senate [10:04] on these four conventions, Mr. Chair, [10:06] to support the possible entry of nuclear in our power generation mix. [10:11] Mr. Groon, put it in layman, [10:13] bakit hindi natin kayang gawin yung nuclear energy agenda natin, [10:18] even without the conventions? [10:19] What are the benefits as well as what are we assuring the public [10:31] by joining and approving all of these conventions? [10:36] Because these conventions will bind us. [10:38] Binding to eh. [10:39] So in other words, tinatali na natin yung kamay natin, di ba? [10:43] But what is the benefit? [10:44] What are the concrete benefits? [10:46] Number one, related to our nuclear agenda, [10:49] and then number two, to the public. [10:50] Okay, I'll answer first on very specific energy consideration. [10:56] I think in previous hearings, not necessarily before this committee, [11:00] in both the House and the Senate, [11:02] the discussion has been when private sector is asked, [11:05] are they ready to come in and make an investment [11:08] for power generation using nuclear? [11:11] And these are the main considerations that they're citing. [11:14] As we've been interacting with our power sector [11:17] and private sector players, [11:19] this is a non-negotiable item for them. [11:21] Because this assures them of the regulatory certainty [11:24] and the absolute compliance with the requirements [11:27] of the International Atomic Energy Agency. [11:30] So on the part of the energy sector, [11:33] it's a non-negotiable for our investors [11:35] to have these conventions ratified. [11:38] On the part of the public, [11:41] in the same vein, [11:42] what we've been echoing [11:43] and as discussed in the Nuclear Energy Program [11:45] Interagency Committee or NEPIAC, [11:48] it provides us with an alternative relief. [11:51] Part of what's being discussed here [11:53] is the compensation for any incident. [11:56] In the previous setting, [11:58] it was asked if there are only limited parties [12:00] already signatory, [12:01] what's the value of us joining? [12:04] The value of the Philippines joining [12:06] is that we are part of a liability framework [12:10] that clearly establishes the extent by which [12:13] and if, not on wood, [12:15] an incident happens, [12:17] the liability of the parties concerned. [12:19] And then that also goes back to the certainty. [12:22] So our public, [12:23] yung mga kababayan po natin, [12:25] ma-assure sila kung bahagi po tayo [12:26] at signatory tayo nito, [12:28] na kung matapos na po [12:29] at ma-exhaust na yun [12:30] sa ating domestic requirements, [12:32] meron po silang tatakbuhan [12:33] to the extent po [12:34] nung ma-i-ratify natin [12:36] at ma-i-confirma natin na convention. [12:39] At yun rin po yung extent [12:40] at certainty doon [12:42] sa ating mga private investors [12:44] nung kanilang liability. [12:46] Incidentally po, [12:47] just to update the committee [12:48] and I think later on, [12:49] Congressman Kowanko will provide [12:51] the details on this. [12:53] There are also pending measures [12:55] before the House of Representatives [12:58] on updating particularly [12:59] on the liability component. [13:02] This will also be of great assistance [13:04] to the private sector [13:05] as well as our public [13:06] on the certainty that [13:07] in the remote instance [13:09] that there is an incident [13:11] regarding the nuclear facilities, [13:13] they will be properly compensated [13:15] and all of the liabilities [13:17] are settled po, Mr. Chair. [13:19] Sir, itong, [13:20] can you cite a specific example [13:23] dito sa Convention on Nuclear Safety? [13:25] I think this is a very important convention. [13:27] All of those are, [13:28] all of the four are important, [13:30] kasi iba, civil liability, [13:32] compensation, [13:34] of course, [13:34] yung spent fuel management, [13:36] lahat yan, importante. [13:37] But I think the public [13:38] will understand [13:39] simply the safety aspect. [13:42] So, what in the convention [13:44] will enhance the safety procedures [13:53] or safety regulations [13:54] of our own local nuclear energy regulation? [14:01] Kasi these are, [14:02] itong convention, [14:02] I read the convention, [14:05] marami siyang mga features, [14:06] but can you cite one or two examples [14:09] that will tell the public [14:10] that pag pumasok tayo dito sa convention, [14:13] it's binding, [14:14] but it will also enhance [14:16] or improve our regulation [14:20] in terms of nuclear safety. [14:23] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [14:24] If you recall, [14:25] when you passed Republic Act 12305, [14:29] which is the Philippine National Nuclear, [14:31] Philatom po, [14:32] it established [14:34] the independent nuclear regulatory body [14:36] with Philatom. [14:38] Ang pinaka-practical pong [14:39] ganyagawa [14:40] ng ratification po natin [14:41] nitong CNS [14:43] is number one, [14:43] maliwanag rin pong nire-reiterate [14:45] na yung atin pong magiging [14:47] Philatom [14:47] ay independent. [14:49] Na ang focus niya lang po, [14:50] kagaya ng nakalagay sa Philatom, [14:52] ay hindi siya mababahira [14:54] ng politika [14:54] or commercial influence. [14:56] So, the focus will be primarily [14:58] on the safety, [14:59] security, [14:59] and safeguard. [15:00] It also binds us to adhere [15:03] to very strict [15:04] multi-stage licensing processes. [15:07] So, ibig pong sabihin ito [15:08] at every step of the way, [15:10] from the selection of the site, [15:12] before construction, [15:14] during operation, [15:15] and even up to decommissioning. [15:17] Susunod po tayo, [15:18] hindi lang po dun sa inisyo [15:19] ng Philatom [15:20] maging po dito sa mga guidance [15:21] pong ilalabas ng IAEA. [15:24] Pangatlo po, [15:25] nakakaroon rin po tayo [15:26] ng maliwanag na depensa [15:28] pagdating naman dun sa safety [15:29] and design, [15:30] which is a non-negotiable item [15:32] for our countrymen. [15:33] Na meron pong layers [15:34] of protection [15:35] that is built in, [15:36] and it's counter-check, [15:38] that there are necessary [15:39] redundancies in place, [15:40] again, [15:41] highlighting the need [15:42] for safety, security. [15:44] And because we are part of it [15:45] in the international community, [15:47] the continuous monitoring, [15:48] for example, [15:49] for radiation, [15:50] the public, [15:51] the environment, [15:52] is built in [15:54] with our ratification as well. [15:55] This is just some of the things, [15:57] Mr. Chair, [15:58] that the public [15:59] or yung ating pong mga kababayan [16:01] ay makakasigurado [16:02] na mapapanindigan po [16:04] at madadagdagan [16:05] kung malalagdaan po natin [16:06] or iraratify nyo po [16:08] yung ating CNS. [16:09] Mr. Chen Nguyen, [16:11] before you continue, [16:13] I would like to acknowledge [16:14] the presence [16:15] of Congressman Marco Huanco. [16:17] Thank you. [16:18] Chen Nguyen, [16:19] go ahead. [16:21] Are there countries [16:22] or jurisdictions [16:24] that went ahead [16:25] with their nuclear energy agenda [16:27] without ratifying [16:28] these conventions? [16:31] Mr. Chair, [16:32] I think our colleagues [16:33] from the Department [16:34] of Foreign Affairs [16:34] can provide [16:35] the updated listing [16:37] of the countries [16:37] specifically for the status [16:40] for the CNS [16:41] if you may. [16:43] Thank you. [16:44] Based on your research, [16:46] meron bang mga ganun [16:46] na bansa? [16:57] Maybe while the DFA [16:58] is looking for their notes, [17:01] Director Patrick, [17:03] after ratifying [17:04] all of these conventions [17:05] and treaties, [17:06] what are the next steps? [17:07] Because these are documents, [17:08] but you have to [17:10] operationalize it locally [17:11] through regulation, [17:13] legislation, [17:14] or even [17:15] mga executive action. [17:18] So what are the next steps? [17:19] Can you give us, [17:21] let's say, [17:22] for this convention [17:23] of nuclear safety, [17:24] ano yung mga next steps [17:25] nitong... [17:26] The practical... [17:27] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [17:27] The practical next steps [17:29] would be physically [17:30] through our [17:31] Department of Foreign Affairs [17:32] and our posts [17:34] in Vienna [17:35] is to deposit [17:36] the actual [17:37] concurrence [17:38] on the ratification. [17:39] That's first and foremost [17:40] what's going to happen. [17:41] But on the practical sense po, [17:43] Mr. Chair, [17:44] the ONU is of course [17:45] the NEPIAC [17:47] or the Nuclear Energy Programme [17:48] Interagency Committee [17:49] as that whole-of-government [17:50] framework [17:51] will be supporting, [17:52] actively supporting [17:53] Philatom [17:54] in its quest [17:56] to operationalize [17:58] all of these items. [17:59] A lot of the [18:00] confidence-building [18:02] and the actual [18:03] implementation [18:04] of this particular [18:06] convention [18:08] will rest [18:08] with the Philatom, [18:11] Mr. Chair. [18:11] And that's why [18:13] rest assured [18:14] on the part [18:14] of the NEPIAC [18:15] as the DOE [18:18] is chair, [18:19] we can assure you [18:20] that the entire [18:21] organization [18:22] of NEPIAC [18:23] will be helping [18:24] and assisting [18:25] our regulator [18:26] to frame [18:28] all of the [18:29] necessary [18:30] regulations needed [18:31] and to extend [18:32] the support [18:32] needed by [18:34] Philatom [18:35] in its enforcement. [18:36] So we can assure you [18:37] that through [18:38] the NEPIAC [18:38] framework, [18:40] there will be [18:40] inter-agency coordination [18:41] or whole-of-government [18:42] approach [18:43] and bringing in [18:44] our stakeholders [18:44] so that any [18:45] upcoming issue [18:47] would have been [18:48] thoroughly consulted [18:49] and all of the [18:50] agencies involved [18:51] apart from [18:52] Philatom [18:52] will be ready [18:54] to assist [18:54] and have it [18:55] implemented. [18:56] So all of these [18:57] four conventions [18:58] will be implemented [19:00] by Philatom? [19:01] Our understanding, [19:02] Mr. Chair, [19:03] is that primarily [19:03] it will be Philatom [19:04] who will be [19:05] as a regulator. [19:06] Wala ng DOE [19:07] assistance nilang [19:08] pati yung implementation [19:10] Yes, Mr. Chair. [19:12] Philatom na siya. [19:12] Will there be [19:14] subsequent [19:15] pieces of [19:16] legislation [19:17] to support [19:18] these [19:19] conventions? [19:22] Mr. Chair, [19:22] I think as I [19:23] mentioned earlier, [19:24] there's a pending [19:25] measure particularly [19:26] on the liability [19:27] that is being [19:28] worked on in [19:28] the lower [19:29] chamber. [19:30] That's an item [19:31] that I think [19:32] we can speak [19:32] to the [19:33] Honorable [19:34] Kong Kwanko [19:35] on the matter. [19:36] May I comment, [19:39] Senator? [19:40] We have [19:42] House Bill [19:43] 375 [19:43] which has [19:45] already passed [19:46] the committee [19:46] and [19:48] is now [19:51] at the [19:51] Committee [19:52] on Appropriations. [19:54] They were [19:55] waiting for [19:56] the comments [19:56] of the DOF. [19:58] Those are [19:59] now in. [20:00] They are [20:00] very positive [20:01] comments. [20:03] In the Senate [20:04] here, [20:05] we have [20:06] the bill [20:07] of [20:08] Senator [20:09] Bam Aquino [20:10] as a [20:12] counterpart [20:12] bill. [20:14] That's [20:14] where it [20:14] is. [20:15] This is [20:15] on civil [20:16] liability. [20:17] Correct, [20:18] Mr. Chair. [20:18] Okay. [20:24] And then [20:24] there's [20:25] when I was [20:26] reading [20:26] the [20:26] different [20:29] conventions, [20:29] I'm asking [20:31] as a whole [20:32] rather than [20:33] specific [20:33] conventions. [20:35] There was [20:35] repeatedly [20:36] they mentioned [20:37] peer review. [20:38] And [20:39] so how [20:41] do you [20:41] operationalize [20:43] that peer [20:44] review process [20:44] and at the [20:45] same time [20:45] how will [20:46] it improve [20:47] our own [20:48] regulation [20:49] and processes [20:50] based on [20:51] your research [20:52] and experience [20:53] interaction [20:54] with other [20:55] jurisdictions? [20:57] Thank you [20:57] for the [20:58] question, [20:58] Mr. Chair. [20:59] Based on [20:59] what we've [21:00] been [21:00] experiencing, [21:02] for example, [21:03] the Philippines [21:04] has undergone [21:05] at least [21:06] two [21:06] integrated [21:07] infrastructure [21:08] review [21:09] or [21:09] in-ear [21:09] missions. [21:11] So it [21:12] is a [21:12] procedure [21:13] with the [21:13] IAEA [21:14] wherein they [21:15] sent experts [21:16] in the [21:16] field to [21:17] review our [21:18] compliance [21:18] with existing [21:19] IAEA [21:20] regulations [21:20] and make [21:21] recommendations, [21:22] suggestions, [21:23] or options [21:25] for improvements. [21:27] So what [21:28] we envision, [21:29] and I think [21:29] it's going [21:29] to be Phil [21:30] Atom who's [21:30] going to be [21:31] liaising this [21:31] as the [21:32] primary agency [21:33] in charge [21:34] with the [21:34] IAEA, [21:35] is that [21:36] any of [21:36] our [21:37] rules, [21:38] regulations, [21:39] or guidelines, [21:40] they can [21:41] opt to [21:41] voluntarily [21:42] or actively [21:43] seek the [21:44] assistance [21:44] of our [21:46] peers from [21:47] IAEA, [21:48] and that [21:48] IAEA [21:49] as a [21:50] member [21:51] also [21:51] can provide [21:53] us with [21:53] their [21:53] necessary [21:54] inputs. [21:55] One of [21:55] particular [21:56] interests [21:56] that Phil [21:57] Atom will [21:58] most likely [21:58] tackle in [21:59] the next [21:59] decade [22:00] once it's [22:00] in operation [22:01] will be [22:02] the [22:02] safety, [22:03] security, [22:04] and [22:04] safeguard [22:04] of [22:05] small [22:05] modular [22:06] reactors [22:06] or [22:06] micromodular [22:07] reactors. [22:08] That is [22:09] a field [22:09] that, [22:10] as indicated [22:11] in the [22:11] Philippine [22:12] nuclear [22:12] energy [22:13] plan, [22:14] that we're [22:15] eyeing to [22:15] be on [22:16] stream [22:16] in the [22:17] next decade [22:17] or so, [22:18] and we [22:19] are hopeful [22:19] that with [22:20] the developments [22:21] and experience [22:22] coming from [22:22] the IAEA [22:24] and our [22:24] peers in [22:25] the [22:25] international [22:25] community, [22:26] our Phil [22:27] Atom can [22:27] also issue [22:28] the appropriate [22:29] rules and [22:30] regulations [22:30] to ensure [22:31] that any [22:32] entry of [22:32] these new [22:33] technologies [22:33] in the [22:34] country [22:34] would be [22:35] under a [22:36] safe, [22:36] secure, [22:37] and [22:37] safeguard [22:38] manner, [22:38] Mr. Chair. [22:42] Will [22:42] small [22:44] nuclear, [22:45] small [22:45] modular [22:46] reactors [22:47] in the [22:49] deployment [22:49] of these [22:50] SMRs, [22:52] do you [22:52] still need [22:52] to ratify [22:55] the conventions [22:56] because [22:57] they're [22:58] small. [22:58] I would [22:59] assume [22:59] the [22:59] regulations [23:00] is [23:01] different [23:01] but [23:02] is it [23:03] also [23:03] to [23:04] deploy [23:04] them, [23:05] do you [23:05] still [23:05] need [23:05] to [23:06] ratify [23:06] this [23:06] type [23:07] of [23:07] conventions? [23:08] Mr. Chair, [23:09] right now, [23:10] the guidance [23:11] document [23:11] from [23:11] IAEA, [23:12] there's [23:12] no [23:12] specific [23:13] for [23:14] SMRs [23:15] or [23:15] micromodular [23:16] reactors [23:17] or small [23:17] reactors [23:18] right now. [23:19] So, [23:19] at present, [23:20] we're still [23:20] observing [23:21] the [23:21] conventional [23:22] safety, [23:24] security, [23:24] safeguard [23:25] requirements [23:25] of the [23:26] IAEA [23:26] but we're [23:27] on the [23:27] lookout [23:28] for [23:28] developments [23:30] we've [23:31] taken [23:31] note [23:32] of [23:32] the [23:32] recent [23:33] developments [23:33] in [23:34] two [23:34] jurisdictions [23:34] one [23:35] in [23:36] Canada [23:37] as well [23:37] as [23:37] the [23:38] second [23:38] one [23:38] is [23:38] in [23:38] the [23:39] United [23:39] States [23:39] where [23:40] their [23:40] nuclear [23:40] regulatory [23:41] authorities [23:42] or [23:42] commission [23:43] have [23:43] already [23:44] issued [23:44] specific [23:45] guidance [23:45] on a [23:47] project [23:47] to [23:48] project [23:48] basis [23:49] for [23:49] the [23:50] possible [23:50] deployment [23:51] of [23:51] small [23:51] modular [23:52] reactors [23:52] but [23:53] that [23:54] is [23:54] not [23:54] yet [23:54] a [23:54] universally [23:55] adopted [23:56] principle [23:57] or [23:57] guideline [23:58] so [23:58] the [23:59] default [23:59] and [23:59] I [24:00] think [24:00] our [24:00] colleagues [24:00] later [24:01] on [24:01] from [24:01] PNRI [24:02] will [24:02] share [24:03] the [24:03] default [24:03] is [24:04] that [24:04] we [24:04] still [24:04] observe [24:05] the [24:05] conventional [24:05] requirements [24:07] which [24:07] what [24:08] the [24:08] four [24:08] conventions [24:09] under [24:09] consideration [24:10] still protects [24:10] against [24:11] technology [24:13] I was [24:15] just [24:15] thinking [24:15] out [24:15] loud [24:16] that [24:16] since [24:16] this [24:17] is [24:17] smaller [24:17] more [24:19] modern [24:19] compared [24:20] to the [24:21] legacy [24:21] technologies [24:22] the [24:22] regulation [24:22] will [24:24] be [24:24] much [24:24] different [24:25] but [24:25] I'm [24:25] not [24:26] very [24:27] certain [24:27] of [24:28] that [24:28] that's [24:28] why [24:28] I [24:28] want [24:28] to [24:28] get [24:29] feedback [24:31] from the [24:31] OE [24:32] as to [24:32] what type [24:33] of [24:34] regulation [24:34] what type [24:35] of [24:35] approach [24:36] do we [24:37] need [24:37] when we [24:39] deploy [24:39] small [24:40] modular [24:40] reactors [24:41] and is [24:42] that [24:42] something [24:43] I just [24:43] release [24:45] based on [24:48] your [24:48] most [24:49] current [24:49] information [24:50] the [24:50] SMRs [24:51] are [24:51] already [24:51] commercially [24:52] available [24:52] globally [24:54] anywhere [24:55] in the [24:55] world [24:55] okay [24:56] under [24:58] consideration [24:58] when we [24:59] included [25:00] the [25:01] SMRs [25:01] in the [25:02] nuclear [25:03] energy [25:03] plan [25:04] was [25:05] we [25:05] were [25:05] eyeing [25:06] those [25:07] SMRs [25:07] or [25:08] MMRs [25:08] that [25:09] are [25:09] licensed [25:10] and [25:10] possibly [25:11] in [25:11] commercial [25:11] operation [25:12] in the [25:13] friendly [25:14] countries [25:14] that we [25:14] interact [25:15] with [25:15] but [25:17] we can [25:18] disclose [25:19] we're [25:19] aware [25:19] that [25:20] there [25:20] are [25:20] commercially [25:20] operating [25:21] in [25:23] China [25:24] and in [25:25] Russia [25:25] Mr. [25:26] Chair [25:26] if by [25:27] definition [25:28] on the [25:28] size [25:29] and [25:29] capacity [25:29] of the [25:30] reactors [25:30] there [25:31] are [25:31] operating [25:32] units [25:32] that [25:33] are [25:33] under [25:33] 300 [25:34] megawatts [25:34] in [25:35] both [25:35] China [25:36] and [25:36] in [25:36] Russia [25:37] the [25:37] one [25:38] in [25:38] Russia [25:38] is [25:38] the [25:40] operated [25:45] by [25:45] Rosatom [25:46] and [25:46] the [25:46] one [25:46] in [25:47] China [25:47] will [25:48] also [25:48] give [25:49] you [25:49] the [25:49] name [25:49] Mr. [25:49] Chair [25:49] I don't [25:50] pronounce [25:50] it [25:51] may [25:51] be wrong [25:51] but [25:51] it [25:52] may [25:52] be wrong [25:53] in [25:53] Russia [25:55] and [25:55] China [25:56] I don't [25:56] pronounce [25:57] the [25:57] right [25:57] they [25:57] give [25:58] you [25:58] Mr. [25:59] Chair [25:59] but [26:01] other [26:01] than [26:01] those [26:01] two [26:01] countries [26:02] have [26:02] other [26:03] commercial [26:03] operated [26:06] what [26:06] we're [26:06] expecting [26:07] Mr. [26:07] Chair [26:08] is [26:08] that [26:08] there [26:08] are [26:08] advanced [26:09] like [26:09] minded [26:10] countries [26:10] for [26:11] the [26:11] like [26:11] minded [26:12] countries [26:12] there [26:13] are [26:14] in [26:14] advanced [26:14] license [26:15] procedures [26:16] stage [26:17] in [26:17] the [26:17] countries [26:18] that [26:18] I [26:18] mentioned [26:18] earlier [26:19] which [26:19] is [26:19] the [26:19] United [26:19] States [26:20] and [26:20] Canada [26:20] the [26:21] specific [26:22] regulators [26:22] have [26:23] already [26:23] signed [26:23] off [26:24] for [26:24] them [26:24] to [26:25] proceed [26:25] but [26:26] those [26:26] units [26:26] are [26:27] not [26:27] yet [26:27] in [26:27] commercial [26:28] operation [26:29] Mr. [26:30] Chair [26:30] going [26:32] back [26:32] to [26:33] DFA [26:33] do [26:33] you [26:34] have [26:34] those [26:34] I [26:35] just [26:35] want [26:35] to [26:35] complete [26:35] the [26:36] discussion [26:36] it's [26:37] just [26:37] thank [26:38] you [26:38] Mr. [26:39] Chair [26:39] for [26:40] our [26:40] record [26:40] and [26:40] going [26:41] back [26:41] to [26:41] the [26:41] question [26:41] of [26:41] Senator [26:42] Gachalian [26:43] here [26:43] there [26:44] are [26:44] countries [26:45] that [26:46] have [26:46] ratified [26:47] the [26:48] Convention [26:49] on [26:49] Nuclear [26:49] Safety [26:50] but [26:50] not [26:50] the [26:51] Convention [26:51] on [26:51] Supplementary [26:52] Compensation [26:52] for [26:53] example [26:53] France [26:54] Germany [26:55] and [26:56] Korea [26:56] they [26:57] have [26:57] ratified [26:57] the [26:57] CNS [26:58] but [26:59] not [26:59] the [26:59] CSC [27:00] and [27:01] then [27:02] with [27:02] regards [27:03] to [27:03] among [27:04] ASEAN [27:04] countries [27:04] on [27:05] the [27:06] CNS [27:07] which [27:08] is [27:08] the [27:08] Convention [27:09] Nuclear [27:09] Safety [27:09] there's [27:11] only [27:11] one [27:11] signatory [27:11] from [27:12] ASEAN [27:13] and [27:13] that [27:13] is [27:13] the [27:13] Philippines [27:13] so far [27:14] as [27:15] of [27:15] April [27:16] 25 [27:16] 2026 [27:17] as [27:18] for [27:18] the [27:18] Convention [27:19] on [27:19] the [27:19] Supplementary [27:20] Compensation [27:21] as [27:22] of [27:22] October [27:23] 3 [27:23] 2025 [27:24] there [27:25] are [27:26] 12 [27:26] parties [27:26] 19 [27:27] signatories [27:27] and [27:28] only [27:28] one [27:28] signatory [27:29] from [27:29] the [27:29] ASEAN [27:29] region [27:30] and [27:30] that [27:30] is [27:30] Indonesia [27:31] Thank you [27:33] How about [27:34] this [27:34] Convention [27:35] on [27:35] Nuclear [27:35] Safety [27:36] countries [27:37] like [27:37] for [27:37] example [27:38] the [27:38] US [27:38] are [27:38] they [27:39] a [27:39] party [27:39] to [27:40] that [27:40] they [27:42] are [27:43] a [27:43] party [27:43] to [27:44] the [27:45] CSC [27:46] but [27:46] not [27:46] the [27:46] CNS [27:47] the [27:48] CNS [27:48] like [27:49] for [27:49] example [27:49] France [27:50] Thank you [27:55] sir [27:55] with respect [27:57] to the [27:57] US [27:57] the [27:57] US [27:58] is [27:58] a [27:58] party [27:58] to [27:59] both [27:59] the [27:59] CSC [27:59] and [28:00] the [28:00] CNS [28:00] right [28:03] correct [28:03] but [28:04] among [28:05] the [28:05] bigger [28:05] nuclear [28:06] power [28:06] countries [28:07] that [28:07] we were [28:08] able [28:08] to [28:08] monitor [28:08] so [28:08] far [28:09] sir [28:09] Korea [28:10] France [28:10] and [28:10] Germany [28:11] are [28:11] the [28:11] ones [28:11] that [28:11] we [28:12] noted [28:12] which [28:13] have [28:13] big [28:13] nuclear [28:14] power [28:14] programs [28:14] but [28:15] notably [28:16] they [28:16] are [28:17] a [28:17] party [28:17] to [28:17] the [28:18] CNS [28:18] but [28:18] not [28:18] the [28:19] CSC [28:19] thank [28:19] there [28:21] are [28:21] countries [28:21] that [28:21] are [28:22] a [28:22] party [28:23] to [28:23] CNS [28:24] but [28:24] not [28:24] a [28:25] party [28:25] to [28:25] the [28:25] others [28:26] and [28:26] I guess [28:26] mix [28:27] and [28:27] match [28:27] there [28:28] are [28:28] other [28:28] countries [28:30] part [28:31] itong [28:32] joint [28:32] convention [28:33] on [28:33] the [28:35] safety [28:35] of [28:36] spent [28:36] fuel [28:36] are [28:37] these [28:40] universally [28:40] ratified [28:44] by [28:44] different [28:45] countries [28:46] I would [28:47] assume [28:47] this is [28:47] a very [28:48] important [28:48] convention [28:49] because [28:49] it [28:49] governs [28:50] waste [28:51] disposal [28:52] Mr. Chair [28:52] may I [28:53] comment [28:54] Mr. Chair [28:56] I have [28:57] with me [28:58] comments [29:00] from [29:00] Attorney [29:01] Helen [29:02] Cook [29:02] the [29:03] House [29:04] Consultant [29:05] on [29:05] International [29:06] Nuclear [29:07] Law [29:07] here [29:09] are [29:09] her [29:09] comments [29:10] together [29:11] with [29:11] the [29:12] Vienna [29:12] Convention [29:13] and [29:13] the [29:14] CSC [29:15] the [29:15] joint [29:16] protocol [29:16] and [29:18] that's [29:18] the [29:19] reason [29:19] I'm [29:20] here [29:20] I'm [29:21] not [29:21] here [29:21] to [29:22] defend [29:23] the [29:24] four [29:24] applications [29:25] for [29:27] ratification [29:27] I'm [29:28] here [29:28] to [29:28] question [29:29] why [29:30] the [29:30] joint [29:30] protocol [29:31] the [29:32] fifth [29:32] one [29:32] was [29:33] not [29:33] included [29:34] I [29:35] find [29:36] it [29:36] frivolous [29:37] that [29:38] it [29:38] was [29:38] not [29:39] included [29:39] so [29:40] let [29:40] me [29:41] begin [29:41] again [29:41] together [29:43] with [29:43] the [29:43] Vienna [29:44] Convention [29:44] and [29:45] the [29:45] CSC [29:46] the [29:47] joint [29:47] protocol [29:47] provides [29:48] the [29:48] most [29:48] comprehensive [29:49] nuclear [29:50] liability [29:51] coverage [29:51] available [29:52] that's [29:53] good [29:53] for [29:54] Philippine [29:54] operator [29:55] and [29:55] Philippine [29:56] companies [29:57] and [29:57] good [29:58] for [29:58] encouraging [29:59] foreign [29:59] vendor [30:00] lender [30:01] participation [30:03] best [30:04] to get [30:05] the [30:05] whole [30:05] nuclear [30:06] liability [30:06] regime [30:07] in place [30:08] now [30:09] joint [30:10] protocol [30:10] is [30:11] already [30:11] signed [30:12] by the [30:12] Philippines [30:13] and [30:13] has [30:14] a [30:14] relatively [30:14] high [30:15] number [30:16] of [30:16] parties [30:17] 36 [30:18] today [30:18] there's [30:20] no [30:20] way [30:21] to [30:21] get [30:21] nuclear [30:22] liability [30:23] protection [30:24] with [30:25] Paris [30:25] Convention [30:26] countries [30:27] that [30:28] are [30:28] not [30:29] CSC [30:30] countries [30:31] like [30:31] France [30:32] other [30:33] than [30:34] through [30:34] the [30:35] joint [30:35] protocol [30:36] France [30:37] is [30:37] a [30:38] significant [30:38] nuclear [30:39] country [30:40] and [30:41] part [30:41] of [30:41] the [30:41] supply [30:42] chains [30:42] of [30:43] many [30:43] vendor [30:44] countries [30:44] Russian [30:45] US [30:47] Japanese [30:47] and [30:48] increasing [30:50] cooperation [30:51] with [30:52] Korean [30:53] companies [30:54] so [30:55] we are [30:56] locking [30:57] out [30:57] some [30:58] countries [30:59] if we do [31:00] not sign [31:01] we do [31:02] not also [31:03] ratify [31:03] the [31:03] joint [31:04] protocol [31:05] that's [31:07] the [31:07] comment [31:08] of [31:08] Helen [31:09] Cook [31:09] Your [31:11] Honor [31:11] Mr. [31:12] Chairman [31:12] exactly [31:14] and that [31:15] was the [31:16] topic [31:17] on the [31:18] last [31:18] committee [31:18] meeting [31:19] here [31:20] in the [31:21] Senate [31:21] and [31:24] they're [31:24] supposed [31:25] to give [31:25] us [31:26] feedback [31:26] today [31:26] on [31:27] why [31:28] DFA [31:31] should [31:31] include [31:32] the [31:32] joint [31:33] protocol [31:33] in [31:34] the [31:34] request [31:34] from [31:36] the [31:36] Odesga [31:37] that [31:38] the [31:38] president [31:39] request [31:41] ratification [31:42] from [31:43] the [31:43] Senate [31:43] Good [31:44] thing [31:44] Congressman [31:45] Coanko [31:46] you reminded [31:47] me of [31:47] that [31:48] during [31:48] our [31:48] last [31:49] hearing [31:49] we [31:51] this [31:51] committee [31:51] asked [31:52] the [31:52] DFA [31:53] and [31:53] the [31:53] Department [31:54] of [31:54] Energy [31:55] to [31:55] submit [31:55] have [31:58] you [31:58] already [31:58] submitted [31:58] Mr. [32:00] Chair [32:00] we can [32:01] provide [32:01] you [32:01] with [32:01] an [32:02] update [32:02] with [32:02] your [32:03] permission [32:03] on [32:04] so [32:04] the [32:05] DOE [32:05] through [32:07] the [32:07] NEPIAC [32:07] or [32:08] Nuclear [32:08] Energy [32:08] Program [32:08] Interagency [32:09] Committee [32:09] already [32:10] met [32:10] last [32:11] April [32:11] 26 [32:12] 29 [32:14] and [32:14] we [32:15] passed [32:16] already [32:17] there's a [32:17] draft [32:17] ratification [32:18] package [32:19] pertaining [32:20] to [32:21] to [32:21] the [32:21] kit [32:22] we're [32:23] expecting [32:24] comments [32:24] if [32:24] any [32:25] from [32:25] the [32:25] member [32:26] agencies [32:26] through [32:27] the [32:28] 8 [32:28] we [32:29] will [32:29] be [32:29] formalizing [32:30] the [32:30] ratification [32:31] package [32:32] as [32:32] agreed [32:32] upon [32:32] in [32:33] the [32:33] NEPIAC [32:33] with [32:34] the [32:34] concurrent [32:34] or [32:35] equivalent [32:36] documents [32:36] and [32:37] we [32:37] expect [32:38] that [32:38] this [32:39] will [32:40] be [32:40] submitted [32:41] formally [32:42] to [32:43] the [32:43] DFA [32:43] as [32:44] a [32:44] complete [32:44] package [32:45] for [32:46] endorsement [32:46] to [32:46] the [32:46] office [32:47] of [32:47] the [32:47] President [32:47] no [32:49] later [32:49] than [32:49] June [32:49] 9 [32:50] or [32:51] within [32:51] the [32:51] three [32:51] months [32:52] indicated [32:53] by [32:53] the [32:54] DOE [32:54] in [32:54] the [32:55] last [32:55] hearing [32:56] Mr. [32:56] Chair [32:56] Mr. [32:57] Chair [32:57] for [32:58] the [32:58] benefit [32:59] of [32:59] Senator [33:00] Gatchalian [33:00] who [33:01] was [33:01] not [33:01] present [33:02] last [33:04] hearing [33:04] what [33:06] was [33:07] presented [33:07] here [33:08] in [33:08] this [33:08] hearing [33:09] was [33:10] a [33:11] letter [33:11] from [33:12] then [33:13] Director [33:14] Dr. [33:16] Carlos [33:17] Arcilio [33:17] of [33:17] PNRI [33:18] he's [33:18] now [33:19] retired [33:20] from [33:21] PNRI [33:21] and [33:23] also [33:24] a [33:26] letter [33:27] from [33:27] yeah [33:28] but [33:28] he's [33:28] retired [33:29] I [33:30] think [33:31] anyway [33:32] and [33:35] also [33:35] Secretary [33:37] Renato [33:38] Solidum [33:39] of [33:39] the [33:40] DOST [33:41] who [33:41] likewise [33:42] wrote [33:43] a [33:43] letter [33:43] urging [33:46] that [33:47] the [33:47] fifth [33:48] the [33:48] joint [33:49] protocol [33:49] also [33:50] be [33:50] ratified [33:51] I'd [33:53] like [33:53] to [33:53] remind [33:54] the [33:54] DOE [33:55] that [33:56] the [33:57] DOST [33:58] and [33:59] the [33:59] PNRI [34:00] are [34:01] kind [34:02] of [34:02] co-chairs [34:03] of [34:04] DINEPIAC [34:05] under [34:06] Executive [34:08] Order [34:09] 164 [34:10] so [34:10] they are [34:11] not to [34:12] be [34:12] trivialized [34:14] the [34:15] opinions [34:16] of [34:16] the [34:17] DOST [34:18] and [34:18] the [34:18] PNRI [34:19] Mr. [34:20] Chairman [34:20] Thank [34:21] you [34:21] DFA [34:22] will [34:23] you [34:23] be [34:23] able [34:23] to [34:23] comply [34:24] on [34:24] June [34:24] 9 [34:24] we [34:25] can [34:29] endorse [34:29] it [34:30] right [34:30] away [34:30] to [34:31] the [34:31] president [34:32] as long [34:32] as [34:33] the [34:33] package [34:33] is [34:33] complete [34:34] so [34:35] I [34:35] mean [34:35] June [34:36] 9 [34:36] it [34:36] should [34:37] be [34:37] with [34:37] the [34:38] DFA [34:38] right [34:38] yes [34:39] sir [34:39] or [34:40] we [34:40] talking [34:40] like [34:41] it [34:41] will [34:41] still [34:41] be [34:42] in [34:42] Malacanang [34:43] on [34:43] or [34:43] before [34:44] the [34:44] 9 [34:44] of [34:45] June [34:45] Mr. [34:46] Chair [34:46] that's [34:46] our [34:46] commitment [34:47] that [34:47] the [34:47] ratification [34:49] package [34:49] will [34:50] be [34:50] with [34:50] DFA [34:50] for [34:51] their [34:51] endorsement [34:52] to [34:52] the [34:52] office [34:52] of [34:53] the [34:53] president [34:53] and [34:54] you're [34:54] confident [34:54] that [34:55] you'll [34:55] be [34:55] able [34:55] to [34:56] submit [34:57] that [34:58] by [34:58] June [34:58] 9 [34:59] sir [35:00] as [35:00] the [35:01] process [35:01] is [35:01] that [35:01] as [35:02] soon [35:02] as [35:02] we [35:02] receive [35:02] the [35:03] documents [35:03] from [35:04] the [35:04] implementing [35:04] agency [35:05] for [35:05] example [35:05] DOE [35:06] and [35:07] the [35:07] package [35:08] is [35:08] complete [35:08] we [35:09] can [35:09] endorse [35:09] the [35:10] entire [35:10] thing [35:11] to [35:11] the [35:11] office [35:11] of [35:11] president [35:12] within [35:12] one [35:12] or [35:12] two [35:12] days [35:13] thank [35:14] you [35:14] before [35:15] we [35:15] move [35:16] further [35:17] let [35:17] me [35:17] just [35:18] go [35:18] back [35:18] to [35:19] the [35:20] Department [35:21] of [35:21] Energy [35:21] in our [35:23] previous [35:23] hearings [35:24] I was [35:24] I was [35:24] really [35:24] wondering [35:25] a lot [35:25] of [35:25] people [35:25] were [35:26] asking [35:26] who [35:26] are [35:26] watching [35:27] us [35:27] the [35:28] question [35:29] is [35:29] how [35:29] are [35:30] we [35:30] going [35:30] to [35:31] dispose [35:31] our [35:32] nuclear [35:33] waste [35:34] because [35:34] there [35:34] are [35:34] only [35:35] two [35:36] ways [35:38] to [35:38] dispose [35:38] this [35:39] I [35:39] mean [35:39] underground [35:40] or [35:40] through [35:41] water [35:41] or [35:42] something [35:42] how [35:42] do [35:43] we [35:43] plan [35:43] this [35:44] Mr. [35:45] Chair [35:45] thank [35:46] you [35:46] for [35:46] the [35:46] question [35:47] as [35:47] we've [35:47] been [35:48] relaying [35:48] to [35:49] the [35:49] public [35:49] along [35:50] with [35:50] the [35:50] other [35:51] members [35:51] of [35:51] the [35:51] NEPYAC [35:53] in [35:53] the [35:54] world [35:54] there's [35:55] only [35:55] one [35:56] country [35:57] that [35:57] has [35:58] an [35:58] actual [35:58] permanent [35:59] working [35:59] repository [36:00] and [36:01] that [36:01] came [36:02] online [36:02] just [36:03] last [36:04] year [36:04] late [36:05] last [36:06] year [36:06] which [36:06] is [36:06] Onkala [36:07] in [36:07] Finland [36:07] all [36:08] of [36:08] the [36:09] other [36:09] countries [36:10] right [36:10] now [36:11] in [36:11] the [36:11] world [36:11] with [36:11] operating [36:12] nuclear [36:12] power [36:12] plants [36:13] either [36:14] store [36:14] their [36:15] intermediate [36:16] waste [36:17] within [36:17] the [36:18] nuclear [36:18] facility [36:19] in [36:20] sealed [36:20] cement [36:21] caskets [36:22] that [36:22] you can [36:23] touch [36:23] after [36:23] a [36:23] while [36:24] or [36:25] there's [36:26] a [36:26] succeeding [36:26] legislation [36:27] that [36:27] is [36:28] passed [36:28] specifically [36:29] in the [36:30] case [36:30] of [36:30] the [36:30] United [36:30] States [36:31] that [36:32] is [36:32] something [36:33] that [36:33] we're [36:33] actively [36:34] working [36:34] on [36:34] that's [36:35] why [36:35] at [36:35] least [36:35] on [36:35] the [36:36] part [36:36] of [36:36] the [36:36] Department [36:36] of [36:37] Energy [36:37] when [36:37] we [36:37] are [36:38] engaging [36:38] our [36:38] private [36:39] sector [36:39] and [36:40] even [36:40] our [36:41] foreign [36:41] counterparts [36:42] we've [36:43] always [36:44] the [36:44] Secretary [36:45] Green [36:46] and even [36:47] the members [36:47] of the [36:48] NEPYAC [36:48] has also [36:49] been very [36:49] clear [36:49] and even [36:50] our [36:50] private [36:50] sector [36:51] we're [36:51] also [36:51] asking [36:52] our [36:53] foreign [36:53] vendors [36:54] if they're [36:54] willing to [36:55] take back [36:55] the [36:55] waste [36:56] that's [36:57] one of [36:57] the [36:57] starting [36:57] conversations [36:58] actually [36:59] Mr. [36:59] Chair [36:59] because [37:00] we are [37:01] aware [37:01] that [37:01] the waste [37:02] disposal [37:03] is [37:03] something [37:03] that [37:04] we [37:04] need [37:04] to [37:04] address [37:05] but [37:06] as [37:06] indicated [37:06] in [37:07] the [37:07] nuclear [37:07] energy [37:08] plan [37:08] that's [37:09] actively [37:09] being [37:10] determined [37:12] right [37:12] now [37:12] and [37:14] it [37:14] will [37:14] most [37:14] likely [37:15] be [37:15] something [37:16] that [37:16] the [37:17] specific [37:17] NEPYAC [37:18] subcommittee [37:18] will be [37:19] endorsing [37:20] to [37:20] fill [37:20] atom [37:21] once [37:21] they are [37:22] constituted [37:22] because [37:22] there is [37:23] already [37:23] ongoing [37:24] work [37:24] on [37:24] the [37:24] possible [37:25] identification [37:25] and [37:26] the [37:27] means [37:27] by which [37:28] we will [37:28] be able [37:28] to [37:28] comply [37:29] with [37:29] fill [37:29] atom [37:29] on [37:30] the [37:30] disposal [37:30] of [37:31] the [37:31] nuclear [37:32] waste [37:32] Mr. [37:32] So [37:33] wala [37:33] pa tayong [37:34] malinaw [37:35] na plano [37:35] or [37:36] pamamaraan [37:37] how are we [37:38] going to [37:38] dispose [37:39] itong [37:40] nuclear [37:41] waste [37:41] nasa [37:42] batas [37:42] po [37:43] Republic [37:43] Act [37:44] 12305 [37:45] defines [37:46] the [37:47] method [37:47] of [37:47] disposal [37:48] of [37:48] nuclear [37:49] waste [37:49] masyado [37:50] pong [37:50] mahaba [37:51] ang [37:51] sagot [37:52] ng [37:53] ating [37:53] DOE [37:54] ang [37:55] maiksing [37:56] sagot [37:57] po [37:57] is [37:57] ibabaon [37:59] po [37:59] natin [37:59] ibabaon [38:01] po [38:01] natin [38:02] sa isang [38:02] butas [38:03] na [38:04] dalawang [38:04] kilometro [38:05] ang [38:05] lalim [38:06] at [38:07] dalawang [38:07] kilometro [38:08] ang [38:09] horizontal [38:10] sa [38:11] pagbutas [38:12] yan po [38:13] ay [38:14] ipapasok [38:15] sa [38:16] silindro [38:18] na [38:18] stainless [38:19] na [38:20] hermetically [38:21] sealed [38:21] at [38:23] doon [38:23] sa [38:23] horizontal [38:24] portion [38:25] at [38:25] iba [38:25] backfill [38:26] ng [38:26] bentonite [38:27] mud [38:28] and [38:29] concrete [38:29] and [38:30] then [38:31] it [38:31] is [38:31] gone [38:32] for [38:32] eternity [38:33] cost [38:33] and [38:34] attention [38:34] free [38:35] ang [38:36] tanong [38:36] po [38:36] is [38:37] bakit [38:38] nating [38:39] gustong [38:40] ibaon [38:41] eh [38:42] ang [38:43] nakuha [38:43] palang [38:44] nating [38:44] halaga [38:45] ng [38:46] fuel [38:46] na yan [38:47] ay [38:47] limang [38:47] porsyento [38:48] ng [38:49] energy [38:50] so [38:51] malaking [38:51] kayamanan [38:52] po yan [38:53] sa [38:54] susunod [38:56] ng mga [38:57] reactor [38:58] na [38:58] fast [38:58] reactor [38:59] fast [39:00] isobreaters [39:01] where [39:02] we [39:02] can [39:03] reuse [39:03] it [39:04] 20 [39:05] times [39:05] and [39:06] pag [39:07] nagamit [39:07] po [39:08] ng [39:08] 20 [39:08] times [39:09] nagiging [39:11] safe [39:12] po yan [39:12] in [39:13] 100 [39:13] years [39:14] and [39:15] less [39:16] radioactive [39:16] than [39:17] soil [39:17] in [39:18] 300 [39:18] years [39:19] kaya [39:20] nawawala [39:21] na po [39:21] ang [39:21] problema [39:22] ng [39:23] nuclear [39:23] waste [39:24] pero [39:24] kung [39:25] ninerbios [39:26] po [39:26] tayo [39:26] at [39:27] gusto [39:27] nating [39:28] i-dispatcha [39:29] nandiyan po [39:30] sa batas [39:31] kung [39:32] papanong [39:33] i-dispatcha [39:34] pati po [39:35] ang [39:36] pag-finance [39:37] ng [39:37] pagbutas [39:38] nandiyan po [39:40] sa batas [39:40] meron pong [39:41] waste [39:44] disposal [39:44] trust [39:45] fund [39:46] na [39:46] na-set [39:47] up po [39:47] dyan [39:47] 6 centavos [39:49] per [39:49] kilowatt [39:50] hour [39:51] Mr. [39:52] Chair [39:53] Thank you [39:54] this is a very good [39:55] explanation [39:55] pero [39:56] let me be the [39:57] devil's advocate [39:58] here [39:58] Congressman [39:59] Nakuhangko [40:00] People [40:01] particularly [40:02] the critics [40:03] are really [40:04] worried [40:05] ito pong sinasabi [40:06] ninyo [40:06] magandang pakinggan [40:07] ibabaon sa lupa [40:08] etc [40:09] ang tanong po [40:10] natin dito [40:11] ang kinakatakot [40:12] po ng ilan [40:13] da baka [40:14] magkaroon po [40:15] ng leak [40:15] and it will [40:16] contaminate [40:17] our groundwater [40:18] and [40:19] yung ating [40:20] local [40:20] ecosystem [40:21] sir [40:22] so [40:22] kasi [40:23] is this already [40:24] proven [40:24] in other countries [40:26] na walang magiging leak [40:27] how long [40:29] did other countries [40:30] been using [40:31] nuclear [40:31] reactors [40:34] and nuclear [40:35] disposers [40:36] like this [40:36] nasa [40:37] isang daang [40:38] tao na po [40:38] ba [40:39] ano po [40:39] ang [40:39] what do you call [40:43] this [40:44] yung [40:44] safety measure [40:47] yung [40:47] pamamaraan [40:49] na [40:49] sigurado tayo [40:50] na hindi [40:51] magkakaroon [40:51] na leak [40:52] underground [40:53] pagbinaong po [40:54] natin [40:54] at maapektuhan [40:55] po [40:55] mga tubig [40:56] natin [40:56] and [40:56] local [40:57] ecosystem [40:58] yes [40:58] ang [40:59] eksperto [41:00] po [41:00] dyan [41:00] na [41:00] Pilipino [41:01] ay si [41:02] Dr. [41:02] Calayo [41:03] Arcilia [41:03] pinag-aralan [41:04] po [41:05] niya [41:05] yan [41:06] ng [41:06] matagal [41:07] ang [41:08] eksperto [41:09] po [41:09] dyan [41:09] sa [41:10] Amerika [41:11] ay [41:12] ang [41:12] kumpanyang [41:13] Deep [41:14] Isolation [41:15] may mga [41:16] pilot [41:17] projects [41:18] na po [41:18] sila [41:19] yung [41:20] dalawang [41:21] kilometro [41:22] po [41:22] na [41:22] lalim [41:23] ay [41:23] below [41:23] any [41:24] water [41:25] table [41:25] itanong [41:28] nyo po [41:28] sa mga [41:28] geologists [41:29] sa mga [41:30] eksperto [41:31] at [41:32] ang [41:33] pinag-iisipang [41:34] na lugar [41:34] dun po [41:36] sa [41:37] laot [41:38] sa isang [41:39] isla [41:40] natin [41:40] na [41:41] sa ngayon [41:42] ay [41:43] ito po [41:44] rekomendasyon [41:45] ko lang [41:45] sa ngayon [41:47] ay subject [41:48] to [41:48] sovereignty [41:50] claims [41:50] we [41:52] can [41:53] if [41:56] we [41:56] do [41:57] it [41:57] there [41:57] then [41:58] we [41:58] are [41:58] putting [41:59] economic [42:00] value [42:01] into [42:01] that [42:01] island [42:02] we [42:03] are [42:03] giving [42:03] jobs [42:04] high [42:05] paying [42:05] jobs [42:06] and [42:07] we [42:09] are [42:09] attacking [42:11] so [42:12] many [42:12] problems [42:13] with [42:13] one [42:13] stone [42:14] isa [42:15] pa [42:15] po [42:15] ang [42:16] tinatawag [42:17] na [42:17] storage [42:20] na [42:20] sinasabi [42:21] po [42:21] ni [42:21] ni [42:22] director [42:23] Patrick [42:23] hindi [42:24] niya [42:25] maalaman [42:25] kanina [42:26] yung [42:26] term [42:27] it's [42:28] called [42:28] interim [42:29] storage [42:30] so [42:31] ito [42:31] po [42:31] naka [42:31] dry [42:32] cask [42:33] naka [42:34] tabi [42:35] sa [42:35] interim [42:36] storage [42:36] isang [42:37] parang [42:37] parking [42:38] lot [42:38] lang [42:39] or [42:39] kung [42:39] gusto [42:40] niyong [42:40] bubungan [42:41] pwedeng [42:41] parang [42:42] basketball [42:43] court [42:44] may [42:44] mga [42:44] pictures [42:45] po [42:45] ako [42:46] ng [42:46] ganyan [42:47] nasa [42:48] Switzerland [42:48] pinapalibutan [42:50] po [42:50] ng [42:50] mahigit [42:51] 6,000 [42:53] kabahayan [42:54] tanggap [42:55] na tanggap [42:56] po nila [42:57] yan [42:57] ang [42:57] kaligtasan [42:59] po [42:59] niyan [42:59] and [43:00] so [43:01] kung [43:02] gusto [43:02] po [43:03] natin [43:03] matago [43:04] ang [43:04] isang [43:05] napakalaking [43:06] yaman [43:07] ng [43:07] bansa [43:07] e [43:08] pwede [43:09] po [43:09] natin [43:09] gawin [43:10] yan [43:10] pero [43:10] kung [43:10] ninnerbios [43:11] tayo [43:12] at [43:12] gusto [43:12] natin [43:13] i-dispatch [43:14] na yan [43:15] with [43:16] finality [43:17] cost [43:18] and [43:19] attention [43:19] free [43:20] finality [43:21] e [43:22] gawin [43:22] po [43:22] natin [43:23] yung [43:23] nasa [43:23] batas [43:24] Mr. [43:25] Chair [43:25] Thank you [43:26] Congressman [43:27] Cuanco [43:27] Let me [43:28] hear [43:28] from [43:28] Dr. [43:29] Ocilia [43:29] Paano [43:30] ninyo [43:31] naisip [43:31] na [43:32] ibaon [43:32] na lamang [43:33] po [43:33] natin [43:33] ito [43:33] hindi [43:34] naman [43:34] po [43:34] ito [43:34] natutunaw [43:35] na [43:35] parang [43:35] plastic [43:36] po [43:36] ito [43:36] or [43:37] basura [43:38] na [43:38] dudurog [43:39] I mean [43:39] nuclear [43:40] waste [43:41] daang [43:43] taon [43:44] po [43:44] ang [43:45] pinag-uusapo [43:46] nito [43:46] libong [43:46] taon [43:47] pa [43:47] nga [43:47] po [43:47] Bakit [43:48] ninyo [43:48] naisip [43:49] na [43:49] pinakamaganda [43:50] ibaon [43:51] sa [43:51] lupa [43:51] alam nyo [43:52] naman [43:52] sa atin [43:53] may earthquake [43:53] tayo [43:54] may mga [43:54] paggalaw [43:55] po tayo [43:55] ilagay [43:56] man natin [43:57] po yan [43:57] sa simento [43:58] pag nag-crack [43:59] po yan [44:00] baka [44:00] magkaroon [44:01] po tayo [44:01] ng leak [44:01] yung [44:02] underground [44:03] water [44:04] source [44:04] natin [44:05] local [44:05] ecosystem [44:06] natin [44:06] tamaan [44:07] baka [44:07] naman [44:08] tayo [44:08] madisgrasya [44:09] po [44:09] dyan [44:09] I mean [44:10] mayroon [44:11] po bang [44:11] foolproof [44:12] kayo [44:13] I mean [44:13] this is [44:14] just a [44:14] study [44:15] sir [44:15] meron [44:16] na [44:16] po [44:16] ba [44:16] tala [44:16] nagsabing [44:17] bansa [44:17] hindi [44:17] foolproof [44:18] yan [44:18] hindi po [44:20] maglilik [44:20] yan [44:20] hindi po [44:21] tumatagas [44:21] yan [44:22] anong [44:23] katibayan [44:24] anong [44:25] nakita [44:25] ninyo [44:25] at naisip [44:26] ninyo [44:26] na [44:26] ibaon [44:27] natin [44:27] ang [44:27] nuclear [44:28] madyo [44:28] sang-ayon [44:29] pa po [44:29] kanina [44:30] sasabing [44:30] di [44:30] Director [44:31] Aquino [44:33] na [44:33] ipadala [44:34] natin [44:34] sa ibang [44:35] bansa [44:35] pero [44:35] ewan ko [44:35] kung [44:36] tatanggap [44:36] sila [44:36] at saka [44:37] isa pa [44:37] kung [44:37] ready [44:38] ba [44:38] ang [44:38] Bureau [44:38] of [44:38] Customs [44:39] natin [44:39] na [44:40] meron [44:40] ba [44:40] silang [44:40] pamamaraan [44:41] na [44:41] i-ship [44:43] ito pa [44:43] ibang [44:43] bansa [44:44] direct [44:45] Dr. [44:46] Arcilia [44:47] Thank you [44:48] po [44:48] Senator [44:48] So [44:50] background [44:52] po [44:52] I've been [44:54] studying [44:54] nuclear waste [44:55] disposal [44:55] for more [44:56] than [44:56] 20 [44:56] years [44:57] So [44:58] ang [44:58] key [44:58] po [44:59] dito [44:59] para [44:59] hindi [45:00] makontaminate [45:01] yung [45:01] tubig [45:02] yung [45:02] bentonite [45:03] kasi [45:04] yung [45:06] nuclear [45:06] waste [45:06] tatagal [45:08] po [45:08] yan [45:08] some [45:08] of [45:09] the [45:09] nuclides [45:09] can [45:09] be [45:09] for [45:10] 100,000 [45:11] years [45:11] So [45:12] patay [45:12] na tayong [45:13] lahat [45:13] nandyan [45:14] pa [45:14] rin [45:14] siya [45:14] So [45:15] the [45:15] only [45:15] way [45:16] that [45:16] you [45:16] can [45:17] make [45:18] it [45:18] safe [45:18] for [45:18] humans [45:19] is [45:19] to [45:20] isolate [45:20] it [45:20] from [45:21] human [45:21] activity [45:21] And [45:23] the [45:23] best [45:23] way [45:23] to [45:23] do [45:24] it [45:24] is [45:24] deep [45:25] geologic [45:25] burial [45:26] either [45:26] mine [45:27] repository [45:28] or [45:29] deep [45:30] boreholes [45:31] In deep [45:33] boreholes [45:34] meron [45:34] tayo [45:34] technology [45:35] because [45:36] we are [45:36] number [45:37] two [45:37] in the [45:38] world [45:38] geothermal [45:38] our [45:39] wells [45:40] already [45:40] reach [45:40] up [45:41] to [45:41] 3 [45:43] kilometers [45:43] Papano [45:44] mo [45:44] malalaman [45:45] kung [45:45] gaano [45:45] kalalim [45:46] ibaboon [45:47] ang [45:47] basis [45:48] po [45:48] niyan [45:49] may [45:49] isa [45:49] pong [45:49] napaka [45:50] rich [45:51] na [45:51] uranium [45:51] deposit [45:53] sa [45:53] Canada [45:53] si [45:54] garlic [45:54] very [45:56] rich [45:56] po [45:56] siya [45:56] it's [45:57] 600 [45:58] meters [45:59] 500 [45:59] meters [45:59] below [46:00] the [46:00] ground [46:00] hindi [46:01] siya [46:02] makita [46:03] sa [46:03] saas [46:03] ibig sabihin [46:03] walang [46:04] interaction [46:04] with [46:05] the [46:05] groundwater [46:05] so [46:06] the [46:07] deep [46:07] geologic [46:07] burial [46:08] already [46:09] covers [46:11] that [46:11] pero [46:12] yung [46:13] bentonite [46:14] is called [46:14] an [46:14] engineered [46:15] barrier [46:15] addition [46:16] bakit [46:16] po [46:16] importante [46:17] yung [46:17] bentonite [46:18] bentonite [46:19] cat litter [46:20] po [46:20] yan [46:20] meron [46:20] tayong [46:21] mina [46:21] dito [46:21] kasi [46:22] bentonite [46:23] number [46:23] one [46:23] is [46:23] impermeable [46:24] pangalawa [46:26] yung [46:27] bentonite [46:28] yung [46:28] crystal [46:29] structure [46:29] niya [46:29] clay [46:30] is [46:30] clay [46:31] layered [46:32] negatively [46:33] charged [46:33] yung [46:33] layers [46:34] po [46:34] so [46:35] kung [46:35] yung [46:35] positively [46:36] charged [46:36] radioactive [46:39] ions [46:40] escape [46:41] matatrap [46:42] po siya [46:42] doon [46:43] sa [46:43] layers [46:44] walang [46:44] takas [46:45] yan [46:45] walang [46:45] piansa [46:46] so [46:47] that [46:47] is [46:48] the [46:48] standard [46:48] for [46:49] all [46:49] of [46:49] the [46:49] world's [46:50] nuclear [46:51] disposal [46:52] babalutin [46:53] siya [46:53] ng [46:53] bentonite [46:54] so [46:55] ang [46:55] gagawin [46:56] sinasabi [46:56] ni [46:56] congressant [46:57] kong [46:57] wang [46:57] kung [46:57] ibabaon [46:58] mo [46:58] yan [46:58] pag [46:59] tinakpan [47:00] mo [47:00] ng [47:00] bentonite [47:01] yan [47:01] wala [47:02] na [47:02] talagang [47:04] walang [47:04] takas [47:04] na po [47:05] yan [47:05] proven [47:06] na po [47:06] yan [47:07] from [47:07] many [47:07] experiments [47:08] tapos [47:09] ito pong [47:09] si [47:09] finland [47:10] ginagawa [47:11] na [47:11] yung [47:13] yung [47:13] yung [47:14] yung [47:14] kanilang [47:15] repository [47:18] yung [47:19] magiging [47:20] ano [47:20] by the [47:21] way [47:21] there [47:22] is [47:22] also [47:22] one [47:23] existing [47:24] repository [47:25] po [47:25] pero [47:26] hindi [47:26] for [47:26] nuclear [47:27] waste [47:27] spent [47:28] fuel [47:28] sa [47:28] US [47:29] yung [47:29] waste [47:30] isolation [47:30] pilot [47:31] project [47:31] yun [47:32] naman [47:32] sa [47:32] salt [47:32] so [47:33] yung [47:33] technology [47:34] yan [47:34] napakatagal [47:35] na po [47:35] yan [47:35] titira po [47:38] ako [47:38] sa isla [47:39] doon [47:40] pupapayagan [47:41] it's really [47:42] safe [47:43] we've done [47:44] experiments [47:44] on this [47:45] talagang walang [47:45] tumatagos [47:46] pag bentonite [47:47] ang ilalagay [47:47] bentonite po [47:49] ang key [47:49] wag lang [47:50] pag walang [47:51] bentonite [47:52] mahirap [47:52] so the [47:53] technology [47:54] is very [47:54] simple [47:55] the [47:56] fear is [47:57] I would argue [47:58] that Mr. [47:59] Chairman [47:59] para sa akin [48:02] kahit walang [48:02] bentonite [48:03] okay [48:04] sa lalim [48:05] sa dami [48:06] ng lupa [48:07] na nakatambak [48:08] po dyan [48:09] hindi [48:11] na makakasahim [48:12] nakarating [48:12] sa ibabaw [48:13] ang example [48:15] ko po [48:15] yung [48:16] Oklo [48:17] uranium [48:19] mine [48:19] sa Gabon [48:20] sa [48:21] Africa [48:22] 2 billion [48:24] years ago [48:25] natural [48:26] nuclear [48:27] reactor [48:28] siya [48:29] at yung [48:30] nuclear [48:30] waste [48:31] hindi [48:32] gumalaw [48:33] kung saan [48:34] nangyari [48:35] ng mahigit [48:36] isang [48:37] metro [48:37] so [48:39] 2 billion [48:41] years [48:41] hindi [48:42] gumalaw [48:42] ng [48:42] isang [48:43] metro [48:43] I [48:45] think [48:45] wala [48:47] na po [48:47] tayong [48:47] hahanapin [48:48] pang [48:49] ibang [48:49] safety [48:50] thank you [48:53] congressman [48:54] sa akin [48:55] ho naman [48:56] kaya [48:56] ako [48:56] natanong [48:57] yan [48:57] maganda [48:58] ho [48:58] yan [48:58] may [48:58] binabaon [48:59] ho [48:59] natin [49:00] yung [49:00] mga [49:00] bentonite [49:01] na [49:01] sinasabi [49:01] unfortunately [49:02] after several [49:03] years [49:04] pag [49:04] binabaon [49:05] ho ba [49:05] natin [49:05] ito [49:05] may [49:05] magbabantay [49:06] po ba [49:07] na off [49:07] limits [49:08] alam [49:08] mo naman [49:08] sa ating [49:09] bayan [49:09] sir [49:10] marami [49:11] po [49:11] yung [49:11] mga [49:11] ikang [49:12] mga [49:12] magmimina [49:13] makita [49:14] may mga [49:15] sign [49:15] doon [49:16] na [49:16] keep [49:16] out [49:17] baka [49:18] may tagong [49:19] yaman [49:19] dito [49:20] huhukain [49:21] kukotkotin [49:22] at sabihin [49:23] di mining [49:24] yan [49:24] pwede tayo [49:25] mayroon [49:25] dito [49:26] gold [49:26] deposit [49:27] kaya [49:27] siguro [49:28] pinapalabas [49:28] tayo [49:28] ng gobyerno [49:29] dahil [49:30] dito [49:30] na tinatago [49:31] yung mga [49:31] Yamashita [49:32] gold [49:32] kung ano [49:32] ano [49:33] naman [49:33] sasabihin [49:33] ng mga [49:33] tao [49:34] when we're [49:34] all gone [49:35] kasi sabi [49:35] nga ho [49:36] ninyo [49:36] hundreds [49:37] of thousands [49:37] of years [49:38] 100 years [49:39] pa na [49:39] wala na [49:40] tayo [49:40] rito [49:40] lahat [49:41] kaya [49:41] paano [49:41] yung [49:41] mga [49:42] mga [49:42] pinanganak [49:43] itong [49:43] after [49:44] 100 years [49:45] makaisip [49:46] ng malikot [49:47] ng isipan [49:47] may mga [49:48] sign tayo [49:49] nilagay [49:49] doon [49:49] unless [49:50] kung [49:50] babantayan [49:51] natin [49:51] yan [49:51] may mga [49:53] tao [49:53] po dyan [49:54] for [49:54] generation [49:55] na off [49:56] limits [49:56] po [49:56] talaga [49:56] ito [49:57] mayroon [49:58] marami [49:58] you know [49:59] that [49:59] me and [50:00] you [50:00] know [50:00] na [50:00] may mga [50:01] kababayan [50:01] tayo [50:02] na [50:02] hindi [50:03] lang [50:03] for [50:04] adventure [50:04] kundi [50:05] naghahanap [50:06] ng [50:06] kayamanan [50:07] kukotkutin [50:08] baka [50:08] maibenta [50:09] titignan [50:10] di ba [50:10] so [50:11] curious [50:12] itong [50:13] 100 years [50:14] ago [50:14] noong [50:15] 2025 [50:16] mga [50:16] binaon [50:16] nila [50:16] 2028 [50:17] binaon [50:18] nila [50:18] baka [50:18] kayamanan [50:19] ito [50:19] after [50:20] baka [50:20] sa [50:20] 21-25 [50:21] kukotkutin [50:23] nila [50:23] yun [50:23] yun [50:24] yun [50:24] yun [50:24] magiging [50:24] problem [50:24] natin [50:25] dito [50:25] sir [50:25] senator [50:26] sa research [50:28] mo namin [50:29] iniisi [50:29] po yan [50:30] na [50:31] pwedeng [50:31] after [50:32] thousands [50:32] of years [50:33] baka [50:34] nga [50:34] may [50:35] magdig [50:36] kaya [50:37] ang isang [50:37] rule [50:38] po [50:38] sa [50:39] spent [50:40] fuel [50:41] disposal [50:41] you should [50:42] not put [50:43] it [50:43] in [50:43] any [50:44] place [50:44] na [50:45] may [50:45] economic [50:45] so [50:45] hindi [50:46] mo [50:46] pwede [50:46] hindi [50:46] ka pwede [50:47] maglagay [50:47] na [50:48] malapit [50:48] sa [50:49] na [50:49] pwedeng [50:50] hukayan [50:51] ang isang [50:51] example po [50:52] dyan sa [50:52] US [50:52] yung [50:53] sa kanilang [50:53] yung [50:54] width [50:55] binaon [50:56] nila [50:57] hundreds of [50:58] meters [50:58] dun sa [51:00] New [51:01] Mexico [51:02] nakabaon [51:03] siya [51:04] sa salt [51:04] layer [51:05] ang [51:06] nangyari [51:06] after [51:07] a few [51:07] years [51:08] yung [51:08] shale [51:09] layer [51:09] na [51:09] nasa [51:09] taas [51:10] naging [51:11] viable [51:12] for [51:12] shale [51:13] oil [51:13] so [51:14] nangyari [51:15] ngayon [51:15] yung [51:16] mga [51:16] oil [51:17] companies [51:17] nagdrill [51:18] para kunin [51:19] yung [51:20] oil [51:21] dun sa [51:21] shale [51:22] so [51:22] kung titinan nyo [51:23] yung [51:23] repository [51:24] sa US [51:25] may mga [51:26] hindi [51:27] naman tinamaan [51:27] yung repository [51:28] pero [51:29] isa pong [51:29] kagandahan [51:30] yan [51:30] kung bakit [51:31] malalim [51:31] mong [51:31] ibabaon [51:32] kasi [51:32] it will [51:33] be [51:33] uneconomical [51:34] to actually [51:35] dig it up [51:36] at least [51:36] 500 to 600 [51:37] meters [51:38] geologist [51:38] po ako [51:39] marami [51:39] na akong [51:40] na-meet [51:40] po [51:40] na gustong [51:41] hukayin [51:41] yung [51:42] marami [51:42] na [51:43] mga [51:43] treasure [51:44] treasure [51:45] mahirap [51:46] hukayin [51:46] pag [51:47] nasa [51:47] groundwater [51:48] ka [51:48] so [51:49] kung [51:49] nasa [51:49] 500 [51:49] meters [51:50] you [51:51] will [51:51] spend [51:51] a lot [51:51] more [51:52] money [51:52] than [51:57] there's [52:02] a big [52:02] research [52:02] now [52:03] baka [52:04] pwede [52:04] mong [52:05] i-recycle [52:06] because [52:07] the US [52:08] now has [52:08] more than [52:08] 100,000 [52:09] metric tons [52:10] Mr. [52:11] Chair [52:11] actually [52:12] yung [52:12] mainstream [52:14] technology [52:16] yun [52:18] po yung [52:18] ginagawa [52:19] ni Bill Gates [52:20] sa [52:21] fast [52:23] reactor [52:23] niya [52:24] so [52:24] yung [52:25] ginagawa [52:26] na po [52:27] yan [52:27] ginagawa [52:27] na rin [52:28] po yan [52:28] ng [52:28] ruso [52:29] ginagawa [52:30] na rin [52:30] po yan [52:31] ng [52:31] china [52:31] so [52:32] yung [52:33] reuse [52:33] of [52:34] or [52:35] breeding [52:35] of [52:35] fuel [52:36] is [52:37] not [52:37] a [52:37] new [52:38] technology [52:38] thank [52:42] you [52:42] congressman [52:43] kuwangko [52:45] you have [52:46] any more [52:47] further [52:47] questions [52:48] thank you [52:48] thank you [52:49] Mr. Chairman [52:49] Mr. Chairman [52:50] let me just [52:50] request from [52:51] the [52:51] DFA [52:52] pa-submit [52:55] nam lang [52:55] yung list [52:56] ng mga [52:57] countries [52:57] na [52:58] may [52:58] mga [52:58] ganitong [52:59] convention [52:59] just submit [53:00] to the [53:00] committee [53:01] so we [53:01] can [53:01] take a [53:02] look [53:02] at [53:02] that [53:02] and [53:03] then [53:04] just on [53:07] the topic [53:07] of [53:08] itong [53:11] safety [53:12] on spent [53:13] fuel [53:13] management [53:14] and [53:15] safety [53:15] on [53:16] radioactive [53:17] waste [53:18] management [53:18] ito yung [53:20] isa [53:20] sa mga [53:21] kung meron [53:23] dalawang [53:23] issues [53:24] na [53:24] laging [53:27] pinag-uusapan [53:27] ng publiko [53:28] is [53:29] number [53:29] one [53:29] safety [53:30] number [53:30] two [53:30] is [53:31] saan [53:31] itatapo [53:32] na [53:32] waste [53:32] so [53:34] nakita ko [53:35] dito [53:35] sa [53:36] iraratify [53:37] natin [53:37] we have [53:38] this [53:38] joint [53:39] convention [53:39] on [53:40] safety [53:40] of [53:41] spent [53:41] fuel [53:41] management [53:42] and [53:43] on [53:43] the [53:43] safety [53:43] of [53:44] radioactive [53:44] waste [53:45] management [53:46] so [53:46] may [53:46] I [53:46] know [53:46] from [53:47] the [53:48] DOE [53:48] under [53:50] this [53:50] convention [53:50] what [53:51] are [53:51] the [53:51] standards [53:53] prescribed [53:53] or [53:54] what [53:54] are [53:54] the [53:54] processes [53:55] prescribed [53:55] that [53:57] our [53:57] country [53:58] should [53:58] adhere [53:58] to [53:59] in [54:00] terms [54:00] of [54:01] spent [54:01] fuel [54:01] management [54:02] so [54:03] we [54:03] just [54:03] want [54:03] to [54:03] understand [54:04] kasi [54:04] again [54:04] these [54:05] conventions [54:06] are [54:06] meant [54:06] to [54:07] make [54:08] us [54:08] globally [54:10] compliant [54:11] to [54:12] different [54:13] global [54:13] standards [54:14] on [54:15] nuclear [54:15] safety [54:16] as well [54:16] as [54:17] waste [54:17] disposal [54:17] nuclear [54:18] waste [54:18] disposal [54:18] so [54:19] under [54:19] this [54:20] convention [54:20] can [54:20] you [54:20] cite [54:21] some [54:21] examples [54:21] or [54:22] some [54:22] provision [54:22] in [54:23] which [54:23] we [54:23] should [54:24] be [54:24] adhere [54:25] to [54:25] and [54:26] also [54:27] it [54:28] will [54:28] improve [54:29] our [54:29] processes [54:30] on [54:31] spent [54:34] fuel [54:34] disposal [54:35] global [54:38] standards [54:39] when [54:39] this [54:40] spent [54:40] fuel [54:40] management [54:41] and [54:41] disposal [54:42] Thank you [54:42] Mr. [54:43] Chair [54:43] Part of [54:44] what is [54:45] required [54:45] and [54:45] the [54:46] previous [54:47] questions [54:47] has already [54:48] answered it [54:49] Maliwanag [54:50] pong nakalagay [54:50] dito sa [54:51] ating [54:51] nilalagtaan [54:52] na [54:52] kinukonsidera [54:53] na [54:53] provision [54:54] po [54:54] is [54:54] number [54:55] one [54:55] yung [54:55] pag [54:56] adapt [54:56] nga [54:56] po [54:56] yung [54:56] naunang [54:57] tanong [54:57] ni [54:57] Mr. [54:58] Chair [54:58] on the [54:58] national [54:59] waste [54:59] management [55:00] policy [55:00] and [55:01] regulatory [55:01] framework [55:02] so [55:03] yun [55:03] po yung [55:03] ginagawa [55:03] ngayon [55:04] kasalukuyan [55:05] ng ating [55:05] NEPIAC [55:06] Nuclear [55:07] Energy [55:07] Program [55:07] Interagency [55:08] Committee [55:08] na bahagi [55:09] nga po [55:09] ang ating [55:10] mga [55:10] kasamahan [55:10] sa [55:11] NDRRMC [55:12] na [55:13] maratipika [55:13] dahil [55:14] ang pinakamahalaga [55:15] po [55:15] pagdating [55:16] dito sa [55:16] mga [55:16] spent [55:17] fuel [55:17] at [55:17] radioactive [55:18] waste [55:18] management [55:18] eh [55:19] whole [55:19] of [55:19] government [55:19] po [55:20] so [55:20] bahagi [55:21] po [55:21] nung [55:21] kailangan [55:21] malaman [55:22] eh [55:22] kung [55:22] ano [55:22] nga [55:23] po [55:23] ang [55:23] gagawin [55:23] pangalawa [55:24] po [55:25] yung [55:25] pag [55:25] trato [55:26] or [55:26] cover [55:26] po [55:27] nito [55:27] yung [55:27] sa [55:27] storage [55:28] paggalaw [55:29] pag [55:29] transport [55:29] po [55:30] at [55:30] pag [55:30] treat [55:30] including [55:31] the [55:31] disposal [55:32] bahagi [55:33] po [55:33] nung [55:33] mga [55:33] requirements [55:34] dito [55:34] is [55:34] that [55:35] ini-insure [55:35] hindi [55:36] lang po [55:36] yung [55:36] actual [55:37] waste [55:37] na [55:38] tinatransport [55:38] maging [55:39] po [55:39] yung [55:39] public [55:40] maging [55:41] po [55:41] yung [55:41] mga [55:41] nagtatrabaho [55:42] at [55:43] yung [55:43] mga [55:43] environmental [55:43] considerations [55:44] are [55:44] taken [55:45] care [55:45] of [55:45] bahagi [55:46] rin [55:47] ng [55:47] plano [55:47] Mr. [55:48] Chair [55:48] and [55:48] members [55:48] yung [55:49] long [55:49] term [55:49] safety [55:50] planning [55:50] so [55:51] constantly [55:51] po [55:52] nakakaroon [55:52] ng mga [55:53] exercises [55:53] na [55:54] ginagawa [55:55] bilang [55:56] assignatory [55:56] party [55:57] para [55:57] masigurado [55:58] na yung [55:59] ating [55:59] mga [55:59] protocols [56:00] yung [56:00] ating [56:00] mga [56:01] procedures [56:01] are [56:02] working [56:03] as planned [56:04] at [56:05] just to [56:05] make sure [56:06] po [56:06] na [56:06] nababantayan [56:07] rin tayo [56:07] meron [56:08] pong [56:08] proseso [56:09] rin [56:09] ito [56:09] ng [56:09] triennial [56:10] peer [56:10] review [56:11] process [56:11] so [56:12] yung [56:12] ating [56:13] mga [56:13] kasamahan [56:13] sa [56:14] IAEA [56:14] iba [56:15] pong [56:15] bansa [56:15] mga [56:16] eksperto [56:16] tinitignan [56:17] po [56:17] ito [56:17] so [56:18] kung [56:18] susumahin [56:19] po [56:19] natin [56:19] yung [56:20] pinang [56:20] mahalagang [56:21] strategic [56:21] benefit [56:22] nito [56:22] sa [56:22] atin [56:22] sa [56:22] bansa [56:23] dahil [56:23] nga [56:23] po [56:24] kung [56:24] sakali [56:24] consider [56:25] ng [56:25] ating [56:25] mga [56:26] kababayan [56:26] ang [56:26] pagpasok [56:27] ng [56:27] nuclear [56:27] magiging [56:28] bago [56:29] po [56:29] tayo [56:29] dito [56:29] meron [56:30] mga [56:30] bansa [56:31] at [56:31] mga [56:31] eksperto [56:31] mas [56:32] matagal [56:32] nang [56:32] nag-ooperate [56:33] matitignan [56:34] po [56:34] at [56:34] ma-apply [56:35] nila [56:35] yung [56:35] mga [56:36] natutunan [56:36] para [56:36] masigurado [56:37] na [56:38] pag [56:38] tayo [56:38] nagde-deploy [56:39] na rin [56:39] dito [56:39] wala [56:40] na po [56:40] tayong [56:41] magiging [56:41] concern [56:41] Mr. Chair [57:00] sa ilalim [57:01] po [57:02] nung [57:02] ating [57:02] IAEA [57:03] yung [57:03] determination [57:03] po [57:04] ang [57:04] pinuprovide [57:05] lang po [57:05] nung [57:05] convention [57:06] at [57:06] general [57:06] guidance [57:07] nga po [57:07] nung [57:07] ating [57:08] IAEA [57:08] yun [57:09] nga po [57:09] general [57:09] guidance [57:10] yung [57:10] mga [57:11] proseso [57:11] and [57:11] procedures [57:12] po [57:12] na [57:12] kailangan [57:12] i-observe [57:13] ang [57:14] ating [57:14] independent [57:15] national [57:16] regulators [57:16] po [57:16] ultimately [57:17] at [57:17] yung [57:17] mga [57:18] batas [57:18] po [57:18] nating [57:18] ipinapasa [57:19] ang [57:20] nagde-determine [57:20] kung [57:21] paano [57:21] po [57:21] ito [57:21] i-execute [57:22] kagaya [57:23] nga po [57:23] nang [57:23] nabanggit [57:24] ni [57:24] congressman [57:25] Kuhanko [57:25] sa [57:26] RA12305 [57:27] meron [57:27] pong [57:28] nilagay [57:28] na [57:28] mekanismo [57:29] na [57:29] yung [57:29] pagbabaon [57:30] nga po [57:30] yung [57:31] treatment [57:31] ng [57:31] intermediate [57:32] waste [57:33] disposal [57:33] so [57:34] yun [57:34] po [57:34] yung [57:34] ating [57:35] susundin [57:35] at [57:35] i-implement [57:36] ng ating [57:36] philatom [57:39] yung mga [57:40] ganitong [57:41] waste [57:42] disposal [57:42] under [57:43] these [57:43] conventions [57:44] under [57:44] dito [57:45] sa [57:45] joint [57:45] convention [57:45] who [57:46] pays [57:46] for [57:46] it [57:46] is [57:48] it [57:48] the [57:48] operator [57:49] is [57:50] it [57:50] government [57:51] Mr. [57:52] Chair [57:52] that [57:57] is [57:57] provided [57:57] for [57:58] in [57:58] the [57:59] Republic [57:59] Act [58:00] 12305 [58:01] for [58:03] nuclear [58:04] waste [58:04] disposal [58:05] it [58:05] is [58:05] 6 [58:06] centavos [58:07] per kilowatt [58:08] hour [58:08] paid [58:09] for [58:10] for [58:11] the [58:11] entire [58:12] life [58:12] of [58:12] the [58:13] operating [58:14] life [58:15] of [58:15] the [58:15] nuclear [58:15] power [58:16] plant [58:16] aside [58:17] from [58:17] the [58:17] 6 [58:18] centavos [58:18] per [58:19] kilowatt [58:19] hour [58:20] there [58:20] is [58:21] another [58:21] 6 [58:22] centavos [58:23] per [58:23] kilowatt [58:24] hour [58:24] for [58:25] end [58:25] of [58:25] life [58:26] decommissioning [58:27] of [58:27] the [58:27] nuclear [58:28] power [58:28] plant [58:29] to [58:29] bring [58:30] it [58:30] back [58:30] to [58:30] green [58:31] field [58:31] conditions [58:32] in [58:33] fact [58:33] we [58:33] have [58:34] pictures [58:34] of [58:35] actual [58:36] examples [58:37] in [58:38] New [58:38] York [58:38] state [58:38] where [58:39] they [58:39] have [58:39] already [58:40] done [58:40] this [58:41] decommissioning [58:42] Mr. [58:43] Chair [58:43] Thank you [58:44] for [58:45] that [58:45] information [58:46] I'll go [58:47] to another [58:48] topic [58:48] Mr. [58:48] Chair [58:48] with your [58:49] permission [58:49] In the [58:52] Philippines [58:52] we operate [58:53] under a [58:54] deregulated [58:54] regime [58:55] so it's [58:56] a private [58:56] sector [58:57] that [58:58] it's a [59:00] private [59:00] sector [59:01] that invest [59:02] in terms [59:03] of putting [59:03] up [59:03] power [59:04] plants [59:04] in terms [59:05] of putting [59:05] up [59:06] transmission [59:07] and [59:08] distribution [59:08] facilities [59:09] so the [59:09] whole [59:10] electric [59:10] power [59:10] deregulated [59:13] so how [59:13] will [59:14] this [59:14] convention [59:14] attract [59:17] investors [59:18] in the [59:19] nuclear [59:20] energy [59:21] or nuclear [59:22] power [59:22] sector [59:23] because [59:24] these [59:24] conventions [59:24] are meant [59:25] to put [59:26] us on [59:26] international [59:27] footing [59:27] so [59:28] if you [59:30] are an investor [59:30] who comes [59:31] abroad [59:32] may [59:33] value [59:34] itong [59:34] mga [59:35] conventions [59:35] I'm [59:36] just [59:36] thinking [59:36] out [59:36] loud [59:37] but [59:38] give [59:39] us [59:39] some [59:40] specific [59:41] examples [59:41] on how [59:42] these [59:43] four [59:43] conventions [59:44] will [59:44] enable [59:45] the [59:46] country [59:46] to [59:46] attract [59:47] investors [59:49] in putting [59:50] up [59:50] nuclear [59:50] power [59:51] plants [59:51] and [59:51] considering [59:51] nuclear [59:52] power [59:52] plants [59:52] are very [59:53] expensive [59:53] hindi [59:54] siya [59:54] mura [59:54] so [59:55] ano yung [59:58] mga [59:58] features [59:58] na pwede [59:59] natin [59:59] gamitin [59:59] to [1:00:00] attract [1:00:00] investors [1:00:01] Thank you [1:00:02] Mr. [1:00:02] Chair [1:00:02] The primary [1:00:04] consideration [1:00:04] as we [1:00:05] mentioned [1:00:05] earlier [1:00:06] para rin [1:00:07] po sa ating [1:00:08] mga [1:00:08] kababayan [1:00:09] Mr. [1:00:09] Chair [1:00:09] kaya po [1:00:10] natin [1:00:11] to [1:00:11] nilalagdigan [1:00:12] tama po [1:00:12] kayo [1:00:13] ang ating [1:00:13] power [1:00:14] sector [1:00:15] ay [1:00:15] private [1:00:15] sector [1:00:16] privado [1:00:17] po [1:00:17] ang [1:00:17] nag-i-invest [1:00:18] ang [1:00:19] hinihipa [1:00:20] sa [1:00:20] pag-pag [1:00:21] tuloy [1:00:21] po [1:00:22] nating [1:00:22] koordinasyon [1:00:23] at [1:00:23] kausap [1:00:24] po [1:00:24] natin [1:00:24] ang DOE [1:00:25] po [1:00:25] at [1:00:25] kasama [1:00:25] po [1:00:25] yung [1:00:25] NEPCAP [1:00:26] kausap [1:00:26] po [1:00:26] natin [1:00:27] ng [1:00:27] privado [1:00:27] sector [1:00:28] isa po [1:00:28] ito [1:00:29] sa mga [1:00:29] hinihiling [1:00:29] nila [1:00:30] bakit po [1:00:31] nila [1:00:31] hinihiling [1:00:31] ito [1:00:32] Mr. [1:00:32] Chair [1:00:33] at mga [1:00:33] kababayan [1:00:34] natin [1:00:35] nagbibigay [1:00:36] po kasi [1:00:36] itong [1:00:36] apat [1:00:37] na [1:00:37] konbensyon [1:00:37] nito [1:00:37] ng [1:00:38] certainty [1:00:39] regulatory [1:00:40] certainty [1:00:41] the [1:00:41] extent [1:00:42] of [1:00:42] liability [1:00:42] the [1:00:43] rules [1:00:44] of [1:00:44] the [1:00:44] game [1:00:44] ika [1:00:45] nga [1:00:45] na [1:00:46] itong [1:00:46] sinusunod [1:00:47] nilang [1:00:47] regulasyon [1:00:48] na ina-adapt [1:00:49] natin [1:00:49] sa [1:00:49] konbensyon [1:00:50] ito [1:00:50] ito [1:00:51] rin [1:00:51] yung [1:00:51] sinusunod [1:00:53] sa [1:00:53] mga [1:00:53] bansang [1:00:54] paggagalingan [1:00:54] natin [1:00:55] ng [1:00:55] teknolohiya [1:00:56] so [1:00:56] yun yung [1:00:57] assurance [1:00:58] natin [1:00:58] bilang [1:00:59] mga [1:00:59] Pilipino [1:01:00] at yung [1:01:00] ating [1:01:00] pribadong [1:01:01] sektor [1:01:01] nakapagbahagi [1:01:03] tayo [1:01:03] nitong [1:01:03] konbensyon [1:01:04] na ito [1:01:04] kung [1:01:05] ano yung [1:01:05] nakikita [1:01:06] natin [1:01:06] na [1:01:07] implementasyon [1:01:08] yung [1:01:08] nakikita [1:01:09] nating [1:01:09] safety [1:01:09] nakikita [1:01:10] nating [1:01:10] security [1:01:11] at [1:01:11] safeguard [1:01:12] na [1:01:12] ipinapatupad [1:01:13] sa [1:01:13] ibang [1:01:13] bansa 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rin [1:02:17] sa [1:02:17] ating [1:02:17] mga [1:02:17] kababayan [1:02:18] ito [1:02:19] rin [1:02:19] yung [1:02:19] ating [1:02:20] safety [1:02:20] net [1:02:20] na [1:02:21] kinakailangan [1:02:22] para [1:02:22] yung [1:02:23] lahat [1:02:23] ng [1:02:23] ino-operate [1:02:24] natin [1:02:24] world [1:02:25] class [1:02:25] ika [1:02:25] nga [1:02:26] sumusunod [1:02:26] sa [1:02:26] pandaing [1:02:27] digan [1:02:27] na [1:02:27] pamantayan [1:02:28] po [1:02:28] Thank you [1:02:29] Director [1:02:30] To [1:02:31] Congressman [1:02:33] Mark [1:02:33] Senator [1:02:34] Signatory [1:02:37] na po [1:02:37] tayo [1:02:37] sa [1:02:38] Vienna [1:02:38] 63 [1:02:39] pero [1:02:40] hindi [1:02:41] tayo [1:02:42] nag [1:02:42] follow [1:02:43] through [1:02:43] noong [1:02:44] in-upgrade [1:02:45] yung [1:02:45] Vienna [1:02:45] 63 [1:02:46] noong [1:02:47] ginawang [1:02:48] Vienna [1:02:48] 97 [1:02:49] so we [1:02:50] did [1:02:50] not [1:02:50] follow [1:02:51] although [1:02:52] 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Customs [1:07:13] dito [1:07:15] po [1:07:15] sa [1:07:15] nabanggit [1:07:16] po [1:07:16] ni [1:07:16] Congressman [1:07:17] Kuwanko [1:07:19] na [1:07:19] meron [1:07:19] tayo [1:07:20] mga [1:07:20] radioactive [1:07:22] materials [1:07:23] na [1:07:23] pinapasok [1:07:24] po [1:07:24] sa [1:07:24] ating [1:07:24] bansa [1:07:25] and [1:07:26] if [1:07:26] we [1:07:26] will [1:07:26] really [1:07:27] move [1:07:28] forward [1:07:28] to [1:07:29] build [1:07:30] our [1:07:30] own [1:07:30] nuclear [1:07:31] power [1:07:31] plants [1:07:32] kailangan [1:07:32] po [1:07:32] natin [1:07:32] ang [1:07:32] importations [1:07:34] po [1:07:34] ng [1:07:34] uranium [1:07:35] 235 [1:07:36] kung [1:07:36] tawagin [1:07:36] are you [1:07:37] guys ready [1:07:38] to handle [1:07:38] this [1:07:39] sir [1:07:39] kasi [1:07:40] naalala [1:07:41] ko [1:07:41] several [1:07:41] years [1:07:42] ago [1:07:42] ibang [1:07:43] administration [1:07:43] pa [1:07:43] pinadala [1:07:44] lang po [1:07:44] 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[1:08:08] can [1:08:09] you [1:08:09] handle [1:08:09] this [1:08:10] good [1:08:11] morning [1:08:11] Mr. [1:08:12] Chair [1:08:12] we have [1:08:14] a [1:08:14] protocol [1:08:14] but [1:08:15] unfortunately [1:08:15] we don't [1:08:16] have [1:08:16] the [1:08:16] equipment [1:08:16] we [1:08:18] only [1:08:18] have [1:08:19] one [1:08:19] x-ray [1:08:21] machine [1:08:21] and it's [1:08:21] not even [1:08:22] functioning [1:08:22] that's [1:08:23] capable [1:08:24] of [1:08:24] detecting [1:08:24] radioactive [1:08:25] material [1:08:26] so [1:08:26] what [1:08:27] we're [1:08:27] doing [1:08:27] right [1:08:27] now [1:08:28] if [1:08:28] there's [1:08:29] any [1:08:30] product [1:08:30] coming [1:08:30] in [1:08:31] of [1:08:32] similar [1:08:33] kind [1:08:33] or [1:08:33] is [1:08:34] radioactive [1:08:34] we [1:08:34] try [1:08:35] to [1:08:35] coordinate [1:08:35] with [1:08:36] the [1:08:36] proper [1:08:36] government [1:08:36] agency [1:08:37] to [1:08:38] know [1:08:38] 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this [1:09:20] kasi [1:09:20] napapanood [1:09:21] natin [1:09:21] sa [1:09:22] pelikula [1:09:22] sa [1:09:22] mga [1:09:23] youtube [1:09:23] dyan [1:09:23] pag [1:09:24] nalaman [1:09:24] nila [1:09:24] na [1:09:24] may [1:09:25] radioactive [1:09:25] mga [1:09:25] nakasuot [1:09:27] ng [1:09:27] mga [1:09:27] gown [1:09:29] mga [1:09:29] mask [1:09:30] etc [1:09:30] etc [1:09:31] but [1:09:32] how [1:09:32] do you [1:09:33] handle [1:09:33] this [1:09:33] pag [1:09:33] na [1:09:34] detect [1:09:34] ninyo [1:09:34] na [1:09:34] meron [1:09:35] radioactive [1:09:35] yung [1:09:36] x-ray [1:09:37] machines [1:09:37] namin [1:09:37] sir [1:09:38] nadidetect [1:09:38] niya [1:09:38] but [1:09:39] the [1:09:41] machine [1:09:42] depends [1:09:43] on [1:09:44] the [1:09:44] reading [1:09:44] of [1:09:45] the [1:09:45] x-ray [1:09:45] technician [1:09:46] yung [1:09:47] modern [1:09:47] machines [1:09:48] po [1:09:48] kasi [1:09:49] it alarms [1:09:50] already [1:09:51] meaning [1:09:51] pagpasok [1:09:52] na [1:09:53] umaalarma [1:09:53] kagad [1:09:54] yung [1:09:54] x-ray [1:09:55] na may [1:09:55] radioactive [1:09:55] material [1:09:56] yung [1:09:57] ngayon [1:09:57] po [1:09:57] yung [1:09:57] machine [1:09:57] natin [1:09:58] nadidetect [1:09:59] lang [1:09:59] ho [1:09:59] niya [1:09:59] and [1:10:00] the [1:10:01] x-ray [1:10:03] technician [1:10:03] will [1:10:04] flag [1:10:04] that [1:10:05] and [1:10:05] yun [1:10:05] po [1:10:05] yung [1:10:06] kinoconfirm [1:10:06] namin [1:10:06] sa [1:10:07] other [1:10:07] government [1:10:07] agencies [1:10:08] ganun [1:10:09] ho [1:10:09] nangyayari [1:10:09] hindi [1:10:10] ho [1:10:10] yung [1:10:10] tulad [1:10:11] sa [1:10:11] ibang [1:10:11] bansa [1:10:14] pagpasok [1:10:15] pa lang [1:10:15] po [1:10:15] nag-a-alarm [1:10:17] na po [1:10:17] kagad [1:10:17] yung [1:10:18] x-ray [1:10:18] machine [1:10:18] nadidetect [1:10:19] niya [1:10:19] kagad [1:10:19] yung [1:10:20] yung [1:10:20] radioactive [1:10:23] materials [1:10:24] and [1:10:24] substances [1:10:25] dito po [1:10:26] madidetect [1:10:26] siya [1:10:27] manually [1:10:27] which [1:10:29] will [1:10:30] then [1:10:30] flag [1:10:31] our [1:10:31] x-ray [1:10:32] technicians [1:10:33] or [1:10:33] the [1:10:34] readers [1:10:34] to [1:10:35] consult [1:10:36] government [1:10:36] agencies [1:10:37] on the [1:10:38] matter [1:10:39] I [1:10:39] turned [1:10:40] this [1:10:40] over [1:10:40] to [1:10:41] Congressman [1:10:41] Juanco [1:10:42] So [1:10:43] pag may [1:10:43] nadetect [1:10:44] kayo [1:10:44] anong [1:10:44] ginagawa [1:10:45] nyo [1:10:45] nilalagyan [1:10:46] nyo [1:10:47] siyang [1:10:47] tabi [1:10:47] meron [1:10:47] kayong [1:10:48] container [1:10:48] kasi [1:10:50] this [1:10:50] is [1:10:51] radioactive [1:10:52] di [1:10:52] ho [1:10:52] ba [1:10:53] so [1:10:53] naantay [1:10:54] nyo [1:10:54] kung [1:10:55] nasasabihin [1:10:55] ng [1:10:55] pick up [1:10:56] in [1:10:57] Department [1:10:57] of [1:10:57] Energy [1:10:58] anong [1:10:58] process [1:10:59] how [1:11:00] usually [1:11:01] sir [1:11:01] yung [1:11:01] mga [1:11:01] legitimate [1:11:02] importers [1:11:02] naman [1:11:03] ito [1:11:03] they [1:11:04] follow [1:11:04] a [1:11:04] certain [1:11:05] protocol [1:11:06] may [1:11:06] meron [1:11:07] mga [1:11:07] permits [1:11:08] na [1:11:09] ini-issue [1:11:09] ang [1:11:09] Department [1:11:10] of [1:11:10] Energy [1:11:10] ang [1:11:11] nuclear [1:11:12] institutes [1:11:13] natin [1:11:13] yung [1:11:14] hindi [1:11:15] po [1:11:15] nag [1:11:16] follow [1:11:17] ng [1:11:17] protocol [1:11:17] na [1:11:18] yun [1:11:18] tinitigil [1:11:19] namin [1:11:20] yung [1:11:20] container [1:11:20] at [1:11:21] we [1:11:21] consult [1:11:22] on [1:11:22] what [1:11:22] to [1:11:22] do [1:11:22] with [1:11:22] the [1:11:23] manner [1:11:24] of [1:11:24] disposal [1:11:24] or [1:11:25] how to [1:11:25] handle [1:11:26] these [1:11:26] particular [1:11:27] shipments [1:11:28] Department [1:11:30] of [1:11:30] Energy [1:11:31] what [1:11:31] is [1:11:31] going to [1:11:31] do [1:11:32] with [1:11:33] radioactive [1:11:35] material [1:11:36] or [1:11:36] PNRI [1:11:37] Mr. [1:11:38] Chair [1:11:38] ang [1:11:39] agency [1:11:40] na [1:11:40] pinaflag [1:11:40] pang radioactive [1:11:41] material [1:11:42] under the [1:11:42] law [1:11:43] is going [1:11:43] to be [1:11:43] PNRI [1:11:44] po [1:11:44] PNRI [1:11:45] Dr. [1:11:46] Director [1:11:46] Samson [1:11:47] or [1:11:47] Buendia [1:11:48] Thank you [1:11:49] Mr. [1:11:50] Chair [1:11:50] Actually po [1:11:51] yung nakikita [1:11:52] lang nila [1:11:53] sa x-ray [1:11:53] is either [1:11:54] it's high [1:11:55] density [1:11:56] pag [1:11:56] high density [1:11:57] po [1:11:57] hindi man [1:11:58] nila [1:11:59] masabi yan [1:11:59] kung [1:12:00] radioactive [1:12:00] or not [1:12:01] so [1:12:02] pag [1:12:03] may nakita [1:12:03] lang sila [1:12:04] na ganon [1:12:04] pwede [1:12:05] kasing [1:12:05] hindi po [1:12:06] siya [1:12:06] radioactive [1:12:07] eh [1:12:08] hindi po [1:12:09] alam [1:12:09] kung [1:12:09] how [1:12:09] they [1:12:10] will [1:12:10] handle [1:12:10] that [1:12:11] but [1:12:11] yung [1:12:11] ibang [1:12:12] importers [1:12:13] po [1:12:13] ay [1:12:14] nagfa [1:12:14] flag [1:12:14] may [1:12:15] tagging [1:12:15] na [1:12:16] ginagawa [1:12:16] po [1:12:17] so [1:12:17] kung [1:12:18] radioactive [1:12:19] at may [1:12:19] tag [1:12:20] yun po [1:12:20] madedetermine [1:12:21] nila [1:12:21] but [1:12:21] otherwise [1:12:22] without [1:12:23] the [1:12:24] the [1:12:25] radiation [1:12:26] machine [1:12:27] hindi [1:12:28] po [1:12:28] yan [1:12:28] madedetect [1:12:29] talaga [1:12:29] po [1:12:30] Mr. Chair [1:12:33] sana po [1:12:34] magpakwento [1:12:37] kayo [1:12:37] sa PNRI [1:12:39] kay [1:12:40] Prof. [1:12:41] Arcilia [1:12:42] kasi [1:12:42] career [1:12:43] retire [1:12:43] lang niya [1:12:43] as said [1:12:44] doon [1:12:46] sa mga [1:12:46] kaso [1:12:47] recent [1:12:47] case [1:12:48] ng [1:12:50] pag [1:12:51] export [1:12:52] po [1:12:52] natin [1:12:53] ng [1:12:53] zinc [1:12:54] dust [1:12:54] sa [1:12:55] Indonesia [1:12:56] dalawampung [1:12:58] container [1:12:59] na [1:13:01] re-eject [1:13:02] ng [1:13:03] Indonesian [1:13:05] customs [1:13:05] dahil [1:13:06] nakadetect [1:13:07] po sila [1:13:08] ng [1:13:08] radiation [1:13:09] at [1:13:10] pinabalik [1:13:11] sa [1:13:11] Pilipinas [1:13:12] hindi [1:13:13] po [1:13:14] nahuli [1:13:14] ng [1:13:15] mga [1:13:17] detector [1:13:17] natin [1:13:19] sa mga [1:13:19] port po [1:13:20] natin [1:13:21] dahil [1:13:22] sira po [1:13:24] ang [1:13:24] ating [1:13:25] mga [1:13:25] detector [1:13:26] doon [1:13:28] mismo [1:13:28] sa [1:13:29] anong [1:13:32] pangalan [1:13:32] nung [1:13:33] steel [1:13:33] company [1:13:34] nagtutunaw [1:13:35] po sila [1:13:36] ng mga [1:13:36] junk [1:13:37] na [1:13:38] yero [1:13:39] na [1:13:40] meron [1:13:41] pong [1:13:41] zinc [1:13:41] kaya [1:13:44] may [1:13:44] zinc [1:13:44] dust [1:13:45] po [1:13:45] doon [1:13:46] and [1:13:47] siguro [1:13:48] nagtunaw [1:13:49] po sila [1:13:49] ng [1:13:50] isang [1:13:50] used [1:13:51] medical [1:13:52] device [1:13:53] or [1:13:53] industrial [1:13:54] device [1:13:55] na may [1:13:56] cesium [1:13:56] 137 [1:13:58] na sumama [1:13:59] at [1:13:59] nag-contaminate [1:14:00] po doon [1:14:01] sa [1:14:02] zinc [1:14:03] dust [1:14:04] so [1:14:05] hindi [1:14:06] naman [1:14:06] nakakasakit [1:14:07] yung [1:14:08] level [1:14:09] ng [1:14:09] radiation [1:14:09] pero [1:14:11] nakukuha [1:14:13] sa [1:14:13] reading [1:14:14] so [1:14:14] dapat [1:14:16] makialam [1:14:18] ang [1:14:19] mga [1:14:19] otoridad [1:14:20] so [1:14:21] yun po [1:14:22] that's [1:14:23] my first [1:14:24] point [1:14:25] pakwento [1:14:26] nyo [1:14:26] po [1:14:26] yan [1:14:27] second [1:14:28] point [1:14:29] dapat [1:14:29] i-explain [1:14:30] ng [1:14:31] PNRI [1:14:32] at [1:14:32] ng [1:14:32] DOST [1:14:33] at [1:14:34] ng [1:14:34] DOE [1:14:35] kung [1:14:36] ano [1:14:36] ang [1:14:37] norm [1:14:37] NORM [1:14:40] normally [1:14:41] hindi ko [1:14:42] maalala [1:14:43] normally [1:14:45] occurring [1:14:46] radioactive [1:14:47] material [1:14:48] example [1:14:49] po [1:14:50] kung [1:14:51] meron [1:14:51] po [1:14:52] akong [1:14:52] isang [1:14:52] sakong [1:14:53] potassium [1:14:55] chloride [1:14:55] na [1:14:56] fertilizer [1:14:56] dito [1:14:57] at [1:14:57] binasa [1:14:58] po [1:14:59] ng [1:14:59] Geiger [1:15:00] counter [1:15:01] pipitik [1:15:02] na [1:15:02] gusto [1:15:03] yung [1:15:03] Geiger [1:15:03] counter [1:15:04] high [1:15:05] level [1:15:06] gamma [1:15:06] radiation [1:15:07] po [1:15:08] yun [1:15:08] so [1:15:09] kung [1:15:09] hindi [1:15:10] nyo [1:15:10] po [1:15:10] naintindihan [1:15:11] yung [1:15:12] konteksto [1:15:13] maa-alarm [1:15:14] na po [1:15:15] tayong [1:15:15] lahat [1:15:16] and [1:15:17] that's [1:15:17] the [1:15:17] problem [1:15:18] with [1:15:18] the [1:15:19] perception [1:15:19] of [1:15:20] danger [1:15:21] there [1:15:21] is [1:15:22] no [1:15:22] context [1:15:23] so [1:15:24] dapat [1:15:25] ang [1:15:25] ating [1:15:26] mga [1:15:26] agencies [1:15:27] will [1:15:29] none [1:15:30] of you [1:15:31] here [1:15:31] seem [1:15:32] to be [1:15:33] familiar [1:15:33] and [1:15:35] are [1:15:35] not [1:15:36] explaining [1:15:37] norm [1:15:38] to the [1:15:38] general [1:15:39] public [1:15:40] yun [1:15:40] po [1:15:41] ang [1:15:41] aking [1:15:41] komento [1:15:42] Mr. [1:15:43] Chair [1:15:43] Thank you [1:15:47] Mr. [1:15:47] Chairman [1:15:48] Mr. Chairman [1:15:49] I just [1:15:50] want to [1:15:50] ask [1:15:50] DFA [1:15:51] itong [1:15:51] mga [1:15:51] ganitong [1:15:52] conventions [1:15:54] these are [1:15:55] binding [1:15:55] conventions [1:15:56] what are [1:16:01] the [1:16:02] penalties [1:16:02] if [1:16:03] ever [1:16:03] our [1:16:03] country [1:16:04] will [1:16:05] not [1:16:05] adhere [1:16:06] to [1:16:07] the [1:16:08] terms [1:16:08] and [1:16:09] the [1:16:09] provisions [1:16:09] of [1:16:10] the [1:16:10] conventions [1:16:10] may [1:16:11] mga [1:16:11] penalties [1:16:12] ba [1:16:12] ho [1:16:12] siya [1:16:12] for [1:16:14] this [1:16:14] four [1:16:14] actually [1:16:21] sir [1:16:22] I would [1:16:22] say [1:16:22] it would [1:16:23] be [1:16:23] more [1:16:23] reputational [1:16:24] risk [1:16:25] wala [1:16:25] naman [1:16:26] po [1:16:26] talagang [1:16:26] punitive [1:16:26] action [1:16:27] it's [1:16:28] there [1:16:28] is [1:16:29] just [1:16:29] as [1:16:29] mentioned [1:16:29] by [1:16:30] DOE [1:16:30] may [1:16:30] mga [1:16:30] peer [1:16:31] reviews [1:16:31] so [1:16:32] it [1:16:32] will [1:16:32] really [1:16:32] be [1:16:33] a [1:16:33] gauge [1:16:33] to [1:16:33] our [1:16:34] compliance [1:16:34] with [1:16:35] the [1:16:35] commitments [1:16:35] but [1:16:36] once [1:16:36] we [1:16:37] access [1:16:37] to [1:16:37] this [1:16:38] we [1:16:38] are [1:16:38] bound [1:16:39] by [1:16:39] the [1:16:39] commitments [1:16:40] so [1:16:41] Mr. [1:16:41] Chair [1:16:42] if I [1:16:43] may [1:16:43] meron pong [1:16:45] ibang [1:16:45] implication [1:16:46] po [1:16:46] jurisdiction [1:16:48] sa [1:16:49] court [1:16:49] case [1:16:50] right [1:16:51] with [1:16:51] these [1:16:51] conventions [1:16:52] the [1:16:54] jurisdictions [1:16:55] the [1:16:58] I'm [1:16:59] not [1:16:59] the [1:17:00] expert [1:17:00] but [1:17:01] those [1:17:02] are [1:17:02] one [1:17:02] of [1:17:02] the [1:17:02] big [1:17:03] implications [1:17:04] my [1:17:06] my [1:17:06] my [1:17:06] next [1:17:07] question [1:17:07] how [1:17:07] yung [1:17:08] mediation [1:17:11] yung [1:17:13] mga [1:17:13] kasi [1:17:14] I [1:17:14] heard [1:17:15] earlier [1:17:15] investors [1:17:17] will [1:17:18] have the [1:17:20] confidence [1:17:20] to invest [1:17:21] in our [1:17:22] country [1:17:22] that's [1:17:22] good [1:17:23] but [1:17:24] there [1:17:24] are [1:17:25] commitments [1:17:25] that we [1:17:26] need to [1:17:26] fulfill [1:17:26] and [1:17:27] we [1:17:27] should [1:17:28] also [1:17:29] adhere [1:17:30] to [1:17:30] the [1:17:30] conventions [1:17:31] paano [1:17:32] kung [1:17:32] hindi [1:17:32] tayo [1:17:33] sumunod [1:17:33] or [1:17:34] paano [1:17:34] if [1:17:34] our [1:17:34] laws [1:17:35] does [1:17:36] not [1:17:37] conform [1:17:37] with [1:17:39] the [1:17:39] convention [1:17:39] ano [1:17:40] ba [1:17:40] yung [1:17:40] meron [1:17:42] bang [1:17:42] mediation [1:17:43] mechanisms [1:17:44] sabi [1:17:44] nga [1:17:45] ni [1:17:45] Mark [1:17:46] meron [1:17:46] bang [1:17:46] if [1:17:48] may [1:17:48] mediation [1:17:49] meron [1:17:51] bang [1:17:51] jurisdictional [1:17:53] anong [1:17:54] jurisdiction [1:17:55] gagawin [1:17:55] yun [1:17:55] so [1:17:57] may [1:17:58] we [1:17:58] get [1:17:58] from [1:17:58] DFA [1:17:59] those [1:18:00] basic [1:18:01] questions [1:18:01] lang [1:18:02] to [1:18:02] so [1:18:02] that [1:18:02] the [1:18:03] public [1:18:03] will [1:18:03] understand [1:18:04] and [1:18:04] we [1:18:04] will [1:18:04] also [1:18:05] understand [1:18:05] go [1:18:08] ahead [1:18:09] yes [1:18:09] director [1:18:09] manantan [1:18:14] thank you [1:18:17] mr. [1:18:17] chair [1:18:17] on the [1:18:18] specific [1:18:19] issue [1:18:20] of [1:18:20] courts [1:18:21] and [1:18:21] their [1:18:21] jurisdiction [1:18:21] sir [1:18:22] it [1:18:22] depends [1:18:22] on [1:18:23] which [1:18:23] convention [1:18:24] because [1:18:24] among [1:18:25] these [1:18:25] four [1:18:25] two [1:18:27] are [1:18:27] liability [1:18:27] conventions [1:18:28] which are [1:18:28] of course [1:18:29] the [1:18:29] vienna [1:18:29] protocol [1:18:29] and [1:18:30] the [1:18:30] CSC [1:18:33] and then [1:18:34] the other [1:18:34] two [1:18:34] are [1:18:34] the [1:18:35] safety [1:18:35] or [1:18:35] the [1:18:35] benefits [1:18:36] convention [1:18:37] in the [1:18:37] nature [1:18:37] of [1:18:37] benefits [1:18:38] convention [1:18:38] on [1:18:39] the [1:18:39] two [1:18:39] benefits [1:18:40] conventions [1:18:41] for the [1:18:41] CNS [1:18:41] and the [1:18:42] joint [1:18:42] convention [1:18:42] they're [1:18:43] really about [1:18:44] compliance [1:18:44] with [1:18:44] standards [1:18:45] and there [1:18:46] is in [1:18:47] terms of [1:18:48] the previous [1:18:48] question [1:18:49] sir on [1:18:49] whether there [1:18:49] are penalties [1:18:50] involved for [1:18:51] non-compliance [1:18:53] strictly speaking [1:18:54] there isn't a [1:18:55] penalty [1:18:56] these two [1:18:57] treaties operate [1:18:58] on a peer [1:18:58] review basis [1:18:59] so basically [1:19:00] it is about [1:19:01] us being able [1:19:01] to access [1:19:02] the expertise [1:19:03] as mentioned [1:19:04] by our colleagues [1:19:04] in the DOE [1:19:05] expertise and [1:19:06] experience of [1:19:07] other states [1:19:08] parties and [1:19:08] really exchanging [1:19:09] best practices [1:19:10] so that we [1:19:10] can continually [1:19:11] improve our [1:19:12] own domestic [1:19:13] standards and [1:19:14] safeguards [1:19:15] with respect [1:19:16] to the other [1:19:17] two sir [1:19:17] the CSC [1:19:19] and particularly [1:19:20] the CSC [1:19:20] there is here [1:19:21] as mentioned [1:19:22] by Congressman [1:19:22] Akuanko [1:19:23] the issue [1:19:24] of jurisdiction [1:19:25] and in fact [1:19:27] that is perhaps [1:19:28] one of its [1:19:29] benefits as well [1:19:30] because it [1:19:31] confers jurisdiction [1:19:33] to the [1:19:35] contracting state [1:19:36] where the [1:19:37] nuclear incident [1:19:38] takes place [1:19:39] so claims [1:19:40] for example [1:19:41] in cases [1:19:42] of nuclear [1:19:42] damage [1:19:43] Yunpong [1:19:44] state [1:19:44] assuming that [1:19:45] that state [1:19:46] is a contracting [1:19:47] state [1:19:47] where the [1:19:48] nuclear incident [1:19:49] occurs [1:19:49] that contracting [1:19:51] state [1:19:52] its courts [1:19:52] will have [1:19:53] jurisdiction [1:19:53] over claims [1:19:54] for damage [1:19:54] so that is [1:19:55] one benefit [1:19:56] sir [1:19:56] for why [1:19:57] it is beneficial [1:19:58] for us [1:19:59] to be a contracting [1:20:00] state [1:20:01] and the [1:20:03] alternate [1:20:03] scenario [1:20:04] is for that [1:20:05] jurisdiction [1:20:05] to be in [1:20:06] the installation [1:20:07] state [1:20:07] so in [1:20:08] the CSC [1:20:09] that is not [1:20:09] the case [1:20:10] the jurisdiction [1:20:10] lies [1:20:11] in the [1:20:12] courts [1:20:12] of the [1:20:13] contracting [1:20:14] state [1:20:15] party [1:20:15] where the [1:20:16] nuclear [1:20:16] incident [1:20:16] takes place [1:20:17] and as [1:20:18] an archipelagic [1:20:19] state [1:20:19] as a [1:20:20] coastal [1:20:20] state [1:20:21] there is [1:20:22] a provision [1:20:23] in the [1:20:23] treaty [1:20:24] that provides [1:20:25] for instances [1:20:26] where the [1:20:27] damage [1:20:28] takes place [1:20:29] even beyond [1:20:32] our [1:20:32] maritime [1:20:33] zones [1:20:33] as long [1:20:35] as certain [1:20:35] jurisdictional [1:20:37] requirements [1:20:38] are complied [1:20:38] with [1:20:39] and there is [1:20:39] also the [1:20:39] scenario [1:20:40] where [1:20:40] cases [1:20:41] where the [1:20:42] nuclear [1:20:42] incident [1:20:43] takes place [1:20:44] in our [1:20:45] EEZ [1:20:45] or even [1:20:46] in our [1:20:46] continental [1:20:46] shelf [1:20:47] so also [1:20:48] given [1:20:48] certain [1:20:48] compliance [1:20:49] with certain [1:20:50] jurisdictional [1:20:50] requirements [1:20:51] our courts [1:20:52] can also [1:20:52] take cognizance [1:20:53] over those [1:20:54] claims [1:20:54] for [1:20:55] liabilities [1:20:55] Mr. [1:20:56] Chair [1:20:57] Mr. [1:20:57] Senator [1:20:58] I like [1:21:01] the way [1:21:01] she [1:21:01] has [1:21:02] studied [1:21:03] and [1:21:04] explained [1:21:05] the [1:21:07] question [1:21:08] Sanapo [1:21:10] you can [1:21:10] do the [1:21:11] same [1:21:11] for [1:21:11] the [1:21:12] joint [1:21:12] protocol [1:21:13] can [1:21:13] you [1:21:13] do [1:21:13] it [1:21:14] do [1:21:14] you [1:21:14] know [1:21:14] it [1:21:15] okay [1:21:19] anyway [1:21:22] Mr. [1:21:23] Chair [1:21:24] I'm [1:21:25] pleased [1:21:25] with [1:21:26] the way [1:21:26] she [1:21:27] comprehends [1:21:28] and [1:21:29] explains [1:21:30] why [1:21:31] these [1:21:32] conventions [1:21:32] are [1:21:33] beneficial [1:21:34] for [1:21:34] the [1:21:34] Philippines [1:21:35] but [1:21:36] sana [1:21:37] mapag [1:21:37] aralan [1:21:38] din [1:21:38] implication [1:21:40] ng [1:21:41] joint [1:21:41] protocol [1:21:42] because [1:21:43] not [1:21:44] everybody [1:21:45] is [1:21:46] a [1:21:46] signatory [1:21:47] to [1:21:47] the [1:21:48] Paris [1:21:48] Convention [1:21:49] right [1:21:50] it's not [1:21:51] listed [1:21:51] in the [1:21:52] four [1:21:52] but [1:21:53] all [1:21:53] the [1:21:53] European [1:21:54] nuclear [1:21:56] players [1:21:57] vendors [1:21:57] users [1:21:59] are [1:22:00] signatories [1:22:01] of [1:22:01] the [1:22:01] Paris [1:22:02] protocol [1:22:03] we are [1:22:05] Vienna [1:22:06] Convention [1:22:07] and [1:22:08] CSC [1:22:09] so [1:22:10] paano [1:22:11] i-reconcile [1:22:12] yung [1:22:12] dalawa [1:22:13] yung [1:22:14] joint [1:22:15] protocol [1:22:16] thank you [1:22:18] Mr. [1:22:18] Chair [1:22:18] go ahead [1:22:21] Asak [1:22:21] because [1:22:24] we have [1:22:25] already [1:22:25] touched [1:22:25] on the [1:22:26] importance [1:22:26] as [1:22:28] coastal [1:22:28] state [1:22:28] what [1:22:29] advantage [1:22:31] ng [1:22:31] Philippines [1:22:31] to [1:22:32] accede [1:22:32] to [1:22:33] these [1:22:33] conventions [1:22:33] because [1:22:34] we are [1:22:34] exposed [1:22:34] to [1:22:35] transboundary [1:22:36] nuclear [1:22:36] risk [1:22:36] we may [1:22:37] be [1:22:37] exposed [1:22:37] to [1:22:38] transboundary [1:22:39] nuclear [1:22:39] risk [1:22:40] such as [1:22:40] possible [1:22:41] radioactive [1:22:41] releases [1:22:42] from [1:22:43] accidents [1:22:44] in [1:22:44] nearby [1:22:44] plants [1:22:45] in the [1:22:45] region [1:22:45] so [1:22:45] in the [1:22:46] region [1:22:47] and [1:22:48] this [1:22:48] could [1:22:48] be [1:22:48] carried [1:22:50] by [1:22:50] prevailing [1:22:50] winds [1:22:51] or [1:22:51] ocean [1:22:51] currents [1:22:52] into [1:22:52] the [1:22:53] Philippine [1:22:53] waters [1:22:53] result [1:22:54] is [1:22:54] the [1:22:54] contamination [1:22:55] of [1:22:55] our [1:22:55] fisheries [1:22:56] in the [1:22:57] West [1:22:58] Philippine [1:22:58] Sea [1:22:58] Pacific [1:22:58] Seaboard [1:22:59] and [1:22:59] of [1:22:59] course [1:23:00] the [1:23:00] impacts [1:23:00] on [1:23:00] food [1:23:01] security [1:23:01] livelihoods [1:23:02] tourism [1:23:02] and [1:23:02] public [1:23:02] health [1:23:03] and [1:23:03] that [1:23:03] we [1:23:04] would [1:23:04] like [1:23:05] to [1:23:05] highlight [1:23:05] in [1:23:06] the [1:23:06] discussions [1:23:06] on [1:23:07] this [1:23:07] on [1:23:07] the [1:23:07] importance [1:23:07] of [1:23:08] acceding [1:23:08] to [1:23:08] these [1:23:08] conventions [1:23:09] Tama [1:23:09] ba [1:23:10] understanding [1:23:10] ko [1:23:10] Asek [1:23:11] that [1:23:11] even [1:23:12] though [1:23:12] we [1:23:12] don't [1:23:12] have [1:23:12] a [1:23:13] nuclear [1:23:13] power [1:23:13] plant [1:23:14] but [1:23:15] let's [1:23:15] say [1:23:15] Taiwan [1:23:15] has [1:23:16] a [1:23:16] nuclear [1:23:16] power [1:23:16] plant [1:23:17] which [1:23:17] is [1:23:17] very [1:23:18] near [1:23:18] may [1:23:21] mangyari [1:23:21] man [1:23:21] I'm not [1:23:22] saying [1:23:22] mayro [1:23:22] na [1:23:22] but [1:23:23] this [1:23:24] joint [1:23:25] convention [1:23:25] or the [1:23:26] conventions [1:23:26] that [1:23:27] we are [1:23:27] talking [1:23:27] about [1:23:28] can [1:23:28] be [1:23:28] enforced [1:23:29] in [1:23:30] order [1:23:30] to [1:23:30] protect [1:23:31] our [1:23:31] interest [1:23:32] especially [1:23:33] on [1:23:34] nuclear [1:23:36] damage [1:23:36] liability [1:23:37] for [1:23:37] nuclear [1:23:37] damage [1:23:38] compensation [1:23:40] for [1:23:41] nuclear [1:23:41] damage [1:23:42] Tama [1:23:42] ba [1:23:42] understanding [1:23:43] contracting [1:23:43] party [1:23:44] nung [1:23:47] convention [1:23:48] or [1:23:48] contracting [1:23:49] party [1:23:49] nung [1:23:50] planta [1:23:51] the [1:23:54] convention [1:23:54] so [1:23:56] ibig [1:23:56] sabihin [1:23:56] may [1:23:57] nangyari [1:23:57] sa [1:23:58] Taiwan [1:23:58] malapit [1:23:59] lang [1:23:59] sa [1:23:59] atin [1:24:00] yan [1:24:00] tapos [1:24:01] Japan [1:24:03] Korea [1:24:04] and [1:24:05] then [1:24:05] yung [1:24:07] umabot [1:24:09] sa atin [1:24:09] yung [1:24:10] radiation [1:24:10] or [1:24:10] umabot [1:24:11] sa atin [1:24:11] problema [1:24:12] can [1:24:13] we [1:24:13] use [1:24:14] this [1:24:14] convention [1:24:15] to [1:24:15] get [1:24:17] support [1:24:18] protect [1:24:19] our [1:24:19] interest [1:24:20] compensate [1:24:20] our [1:24:21] constituents [1:24:22] tama [1:24:23] ba [1:24:23] gan [1:24:23] ba [1:24:23] there's [1:24:23] relations [1:24:24] sir [1:24:25] and [1:24:25] I hear [1:24:26] that [1:24:26] both [1:24:26] have [1:24:26] to [1:24:26] be [1:24:27] contracting [1:24:27] parties [1:24:28] so [1:24:29] kung [1:24:29] san [1:24:29] nangyari [1:24:29] nuclear [1:24:30] incident [1:24:30] so [1:24:30] I'm [1:24:31] hearing [1:24:31] now [1:24:31] from [1:24:31] my [1:24:31] colleague [1:24:32] that [1:24:32] Taiwan [1:24:32] is [1:24:32] not [1:24:32] a [1:24:33] contracting [1:24:33] party [1:24:33] so [1:24:33] Taiwan [1:24:34] as an [1:24:37] example [1:24:38] but [1:24:39] yes sir [1:24:39] there are [1:24:40] stipulations [1:24:41] in the [1:24:41] convention [1:24:42] that we [1:24:42] can [1:24:42] invoke [1:24:42] as a [1:24:43] contracting [1:24:43] party [1:24:43] so [1:24:43] even [1:24:43] though [1:24:44] we [1:24:44] don't [1:24:44] have [1:24:44] a [1:24:45] nuclear [1:24:45] power [1:24:46] plant [1:24:46] we [1:24:46] can [1:24:46] enforce [1:24:47] it [1:24:47] yes [1:24:47] but [1:24:48] the [1:24:48] two [1:24:49] parties [1:24:49] should [1:24:49] be [1:24:49] contracting [1:24:50] parties [1:24:51] yes [1:24:52] I [1:24:54] think [1:24:54] Dr. [1:24:55] Arcilia [1:24:56] would like [1:24:57] to [1:24:57] comment [1:24:58] just [1:24:59] to clarify [1:25:00] some points [1:25:01] first [1:25:01] regarding [1:25:01] jurisdiction [1:25:02] the [1:25:03] CSC [1:25:04] mandates [1:25:05] that [1:25:06] the [1:25:07] litigations [1:25:10] should happen [1:25:10] in the [1:25:11] place [1:25:12] where [1:25:12] the [1:25:12] accident [1:25:13] occurred [1:25:13] a [1:25:14] very [1:25:15] good [1:25:15] illustration [1:25:15] of this [1:25:16] is in [1:25:16] the [1:25:16] Fukushima [1:25:16] accident [1:25:17] in the [1:25:18] Fukushima [1:25:18] accident [1:25:19] the [1:25:19] nuclear [1:25:21] plant [1:25:22] had [1:25:22] some [1:25:23] parts [1:25:25] made [1:25:25] in the [1:25:25] US [1:25:25] so [1:25:27] some [1:25:27] of [1:25:27] the [1:25:27] litigators [1:25:28] went [1:25:28] to the [1:25:28] US [1:25:29] to sue [1:25:29] they [1:25:31] sought [1:25:33] refuge [1:25:33] there [1:25:33] after [1:25:34] 10 [1:25:34] years [1:25:34] of [1:25:35] litigating [1:25:35] sabi [1:25:35] ng [1:25:35] US [1:25:36] courts [1:25:36] balik [1:25:37] kayo [1:25:37] sa [1:25:38] Japan [1:25:38] so [1:25:39] ang [1:25:39] kumita [1:25:40] lang [1:25:40] mga [1:25:40] abogado [1:25:41] sorry [1:25:41] pero [1:25:43] this [1:25:44] one [1:25:44] says [1:25:44] lahat [1:25:45] ng [1:25:45] litigation [1:25:45] should [1:25:46] be [1:25:46] done [1:25:46] in [1:25:46] the [1:25:46] country [1:25:47] so [1:25:47] that's [1:25:48] the [1:25:48] first [1:25:48] then [1:25:49] number [1:25:49] two [1:25:49] the [1:25:50] payment [1:25:50] to [1:25:51] the [1:25:51] to [1:25:52] the [1:25:52] victims [1:25:52] need [1:25:53] not [1:25:53] pass [1:25:54] through [1:25:54] litigation [1:25:54] babayaran [1:25:55] sila [1:25:55] automatically [1:25:56] so [1:25:57] this [1:25:58] is a [1:25:58] very [1:25:58] important [1:25:59] consideration [1:25:59] for [1:26:00] bayad [1:26:00] agad [1:26:02] wala [1:26:02] wala [1:26:03] ng [1:26:03] tapos [1:26:04] pangatlo [1:26:05] for [1:26:07] example [1:26:08] tama [1:26:08] po [1:26:08] kayo [1:26:08] let's [1:26:09] say [1:26:09] wala [1:26:09] pa tayong [1:26:10] nuclear [1:26:10] plant [1:26:10] nagkaroon [1:26:11] ng [1:26:11] accident [1:26:11] sa [1:26:12] Taiwan [1:26:12] or [1:26:13] sa [1:26:13] China [1:26:13] ilang [1:26:13] marami [1:26:14] we [1:26:15] can [1:26:15] still [1:26:15] because [1:26:16] China [1:26:17] if [1:26:17] I'm [1:26:17] not [1:26:17] mistaken [1:26:18] is [1:26:18] CSC [1:26:20] I [1:26:20] think [1:26:20] CSC [1:26:21] compliant [1:26:21] as [1:26:21] China [1:26:22] or [1:26:23] maybe [1:26:23] not [1:26:24] yet [1:26:24] but [1:26:24] anyway [1:26:25] you [1:26:25] can [1:26:25] that's [1:26:26] the [1:26:26] disadvantage [1:26:26] of [1:26:27] these [1:26:27] conventions [1:26:28] is [1:26:28] that [1:26:29] even [1:26:29] if [1:26:29] that [1:26:30] is [1:26:30] precisely [1:26:30] why [1:26:31] there [1:26:31] are [1:26:31] not [1:26:32] too [1:26:32] many [1:26:32] countries [1:26:33] that [1:26:33] are [1:26:33] nuclear [1:26:33] now [1:26:34] if [1:26:35] they [1:26:35] accede [1:26:36] to [1:26:36] this [1:26:36] they [1:26:36] can [1:26:37] be [1:26:37] protected [1:26:37] and [1:26:38] also [1:26:38] for [1:26:39] if [1:26:39] I'm [1:26:39] a [1:26:40] nuclear [1:26:40] company [1:26:41] no [1:26:42] company [1:26:42] can [1:26:42] survive [1:26:43] an [1:26:43] accident [1:26:43] so [1:26:47] sovereign [1:26:47] guarantees [1:26:48] but [1:26:48] the [1:26:49] CSC [1:26:49] provides [1:26:50] additional [1:26:51] protection [1:26:51] for [1:26:52] them [1:26:52] so [1:26:52] if [1:26:53] I'm [1:26:53] a [1:26:53] nuclear [1:26:53] vendor [1:26:54] I [1:26:55] would [1:26:55] like [1:26:55] the [1:26:55] country [1:26:56] where [1:26:56] I'm [1:26:56] selling [1:26:56] to [1:26:57] have [1:26:57] the [1:26:57] CSC [1:26:57] accession [1:26:58] because [1:27:00] it [1:27:00] adds [1:27:00] protection [1:27:00] not [1:27:01] only [1:27:01] for [1:27:01] me [1:27:02] but [1:27:02] also [1:27:03] most [1:27:03] specially [1:27:03] for [1:27:04] the [1:27:04] residents [1:27:05] po [1:27:05] thank [1:27:05] you [1:27:05] po [1:27:05] to [1:27:07] the [1:27:08] DFA [1:27:08] again [1:27:09] mayro [1:27:09] bang [1:27:10] mga [1:27:10] annual [1:27:12] commitments [1:27:13] itong [1:27:13] mga [1:27:13] convention [1:27:14] as a [1:27:14] contracting [1:27:15] party [1:27:15] let's [1:27:15] say [1:27:16] may [1:27:16] membership [1:27:16] fee [1:27:17] mayro [1:27:17] just [1:27:21] to [1:27:21] be [1:27:22] clear [1:27:22] in [1:27:23] fact [1:27:23] Mr. [1:27:24] Chair [1:27:24] may [1:27:25] website [1:27:26] po [1:27:26] ang [1:27:27] CSC [1:27:28] where [1:27:29] you [1:27:29] can [1:27:29] input [1:27:31] all [1:27:32] the [1:27:32] variables [1:27:33] and [1:27:34] makocompute [1:27:38] yung [1:27:38] premium [1:27:40] at saka [1:27:40] yung [1:27:41] kailangan [1:27:41] bayaran [1:27:42] computation [1:27:45] on [1:27:45] how [1:27:46] much [1:27:46] the [1:27:46] country [1:27:46] will [1:27:47] spend [1:27:47] or [1:27:48] DOE [1:27:49] or [1:27:49] DFA [1:27:50] or [1:27:51] whoever [1:27:51] how [1:27:52] much [1:27:52] ang [1:27:52] siyempre [1:27:53] kala [1:27:53] i-budget [1:27:54] natin [1:27:54] to [1:27:54] Mr. [1:27:55] Chairman [1:27:55] pag [1:27:56] kumerma [1:27:56] tayo [1:27:56] kala [1:27:57] ko [1:27:57] gratis [1:27:57] e [1:27:58] hindi [1:27:59] pala [1:28:00] gratis [1:28:00] for [1:28:02] the [1:28:02] benefits [1:28:02] conventions [1:28:03] which [1:28:04] is [1:28:04] the [1:28:04] JNS [1:28:05] as [1:28:05] well [1:28:06] as [1:28:06] the [1:28:06] joint [1:28:06] convention [1:28:07] on [1:28:07] safety [1:28:08] it's [1:28:08] just [1:28:09] going [1:28:09] to [1:28:09] the [1:28:10] triennial [1:28:11] annual [1:28:12] convention [1:28:13] so [1:28:13] kailangan [1:28:13] lang po [1:28:14] natin [1:28:14] gastusan [1:28:15] yung [1:28:15] mga [1:28:15] pupunta [1:28:16] doon [1:28:16] para [1:28:16] umatend [1:28:17] yun [1:28:17] lang po [1:28:17] yung [1:28:17] gagastusan [1:28:18] natin [1:28:19] hindi [1:28:19] junket [1:28:19] yan [1:28:20] hindi [1:28:20] po [1:28:20] dapat [1:28:20] junket [1:28:21] because [1:28:23] you [1:28:23] are [1:28:23] supposed [1:28:23] to [1:28:24] provide [1:28:24] the [1:28:24] national [1:28:25] report [1:28:25] and [1:28:26] perform [1:28:26] during [1:28:27] the [1:28:27] peer [1:28:27] review [1:28:27] process [1:28:28] so [1:28:28] yun [1:28:28] lang [1:28:28] po [1:28:29] yung [1:28:29] gastos [1:28:30] para [1:28:30] dun [1:28:30] sa [1:28:30] benefits [1:28:31] regime [1:28:31] now [1:28:32] for [1:28:32] the [1:28:33] CSC [1:28:34] for [1:28:35] a [1:28:35] country [1:28:35] like [1:28:35] us [1:28:36] which [1:28:36] has [1:28:37] no [1:28:37] nuclear [1:28:37] power [1:28:38] like [1:28:38] zero [1:28:39] nuclear [1:28:40] power [1:28:40] reactor [1:28:41] we [1:28:42] only [1:28:42] need [1:28:42] to [1:28:43] spend [1:28:44] like [1:28:44] two [1:28:44] thousand [1:28:45] dollars [1:28:46] two [1:28:46] thousand [1:28:46] dollars [1:28:47] as [1:28:48] a [1:28:48] like [1:28:49] a [1:28:49] good [1:28:49] standing [1:28:50] good [1:28:50] standing [1:28:51] membership [1:28:51] fee [1:28:52] so [1:28:52] it's [1:28:52] only [1:28:52] two [1:28:53] thousand [1:28:53] according [1:28:54] to [1:28:54] the [1:28:54] calculation [1:28:55] but [1:28:56] another [1:28:56] advantage [1:28:57] also [1:28:57] of [1:28:58] the [1:28:58] CSC [1:28:58] is [1:28:59] it [1:28:59] has [1:28:59] a [1:29:00] two [1:29:00] tier [1:29:00] benefit [1:29:02] process [1:29:03] for [1:29:04] the [1:29:04] country [1:29:05] to [1:29:05] comply [1:29:05] yung [1:29:06] tier [1:29:06] one [1:29:06] po [1:29:07] is [1:29:07] that [1:29:08] the [1:29:08] country [1:29:08] needs [1:29:09] to [1:29:09] have [1:29:10] a [1:29:10] 300 [1:29:11] million [1:29:12] SDR [1:29:12] or [1:29:13] around [1:29:13] 450 [1:29:14] million [1:29:15] US [1:29:15] dollar [1:29:16] na [1:29:17] dapat [1:29:18] ready [1:29:18] in case [1:29:19] there is [1:29:19] an [1:29:20] accident [1:29:20] may [1:29:20] I [1:29:21] yes [1:29:21] po [1:29:21] but [1:29:23] what [1:29:24] do [1:29:24] other [1:29:24] countries [1:29:25] do [1:29:25] para [1:29:26] makumpli [1:29:26] yung [1:29:26] tier [1:29:27] one [1:29:27] they [1:29:28] then [1:29:28] ask [1:29:28] their [1:29:29] operators [1:29:29] to [1:29:30] have [1:29:31] at [1:29:31] least [1:29:31] 450 [1:29:33] million [1:29:33] pesos [1:29:34] of [1:29:34] million [1:29:34] dollars [1:29:35] na [1:29:35] insurance [1:29:36] so [1:29:37] yun [1:29:37] po [1:29:37] yung [1:29:37] isang [1:29:38] benefit [1:29:38] po [1:29:38] na [1:29:39] yung [1:29:39] country [1:29:39] po [1:29:40] ngayon [1:29:40] ang [1:29:40] magsasabi [1:29:41] to [1:29:41] its [1:29:42] operator [1:29:42] to [1:29:43] the [1:29:43] nuclear [1:29:43] operator [1:29:44] na [1:29:44] you [1:29:44] are [1:29:44] required [1:29:45] to [1:29:45] have [1:29:45] at [1:29:46] least [1:29:46] 450 [1:29:47] million [1:29:48] US [1:29:48] dollar [1:29:48] insurance [1:29:49] so [1:29:49] meron [1:29:50] po [1:29:50] tayong [1:29:50] advantage [1:29:51] as a [1:29:51] country [1:29:52] na yung [1:29:52] ating [1:29:53] operator [1:29:53] meron [1:29:54] pong [1:29:54] minimum [1:29:55] na ganong [1:29:55] kalaking [1:29:56] insurance [1:29:56] and then [1:29:57] the [1:29:57] tier [1:29:57] two [1:29:57] benefit [1:29:58] of [1:29:58] the [1:29:58] CSC [1:29:59] is [1:29:59] yung [1:29:59] international [1:30:00] fund [1:30:01] generated [1:30:01] by all [1:30:02] the [1:30:02] countries [1:30:03] who [1:30:03] are [1:30:03] contracting [1:30:04] parties [1:30:05] to [1:30:05] the [1:30:05] CSC [1:30:06] magtutulong [1:30:07] tulong [1:30:07] po [1:30:07] in case [1:30:08] there is [1:30:08] an [1:30:09] accident [1:30:09] merong [1:30:10] additional [1:30:11] to [1:30:11] the [1:30:11] 450 [1:30:12] million [1:30:12] US [1:30:13] dollar [1:30:13] minimum [1:30:13] na [1:30:14] ipoprovide [1:30:15] ng [1:30:15] operator [1:30:16] po [1:30:16] Mr. [1:30:17] Chair [1:30:18] I'd just like [1:30:18] to clarify [1:30:19] that [1:30:19] hindi [1:30:20] yung [1:30:22] country [1:30:23] mismo [1:30:23] ang [1:30:24] magbabayad [1:30:25] ng [1:30:26] 300 [1:30:27] million [1:30:28] SDRs [1:30:29] ang [1:30:30] operator [1:30:31] bibili [1:30:32] ng [1:30:32] insurance [1:30:33] ang [1:30:34] halaga [1:30:34] po [1:30:34] ng [1:30:34] insurance [1:30:35] sa [1:30:35] ngayon [1:30:36] nasa [1:30:36] mga [1:30:36] around [1:30:37] 1 [1:30:37] million [1:30:38] dollars [1:30:38] a [1:30:38] year [1:30:39] para [1:30:40] magkaroon [1:30:40] po [1:30:41] siya [1:30:41] ng [1:30:41] 300 [1:30:42] million [1:30:43] SDRs [1:30:44] na [1:30:44] cover [1:30:45] insurance [1:30:45] cover [1:30:46] gustong [1:30:49] gusto [1:30:50] po [1:30:50] ng [1:30:50] insurance [1:30:51] company [1:30:51] kasi [1:30:52] halos [1:30:53] never [1:30:54] po [1:30:54] sila [1:30:54] nagbabayad [1:30:55] ng [1:30:56] aksidente [1:30:57] in fact [1:30:58] yung [1:30:58] Three Mile [1:30:59] Island [1:30:59] yung [1:31:00] nangyari [1:31:01] po [1:31:01] doon [1:31:01] ang [1:31:02] maximum [1:31:02] na [1:31:03] kinover [1:31:03] ng [1:31:04] insurance [1:31:05] industry [1:31:06] ay hindi [1:31:07] lumagpas [1:31:08] ng [1:31:08] 75 [1:31:09] million [1:31:09] dollars [1:31:10] so [1:31:11] covered [1:31:11] na [1:31:12] covered [1:31:12] po [1:31:12] tayo [1:31:13] thank you [1:31:16] so [1:31:16] basically [1:31:17] ang [1:31:18] tama po ba [1:31:22] Director [1:31:23] Samson [1:31:24] na [1:31:24] for the [1:31:26] CNS [1:31:27] it's only [1:31:28] yung [1:31:28] attendance [1:31:28] natin [1:31:29] and then [1:31:30] for the [1:31:30] CSC [1:31:31] is for [1:31:31] the [1:31:32] 2,000 [1:31:33] dollars [1:31:33] ang [1:31:34] annual [1:31:35] fee [1:31:35] and then [1:31:36] the rest [1:31:37] wala [1:31:37] ng [1:31:38] membership [1:31:40] fee [1:31:40] or [1:31:40] alright [1:31:42] thank you [1:31:42] thank you [1:31:43] Mr. Chairman [1:31:43] yes [1:31:44] let me [1:31:46] get back [1:31:47] to [1:31:47] the [1:31:47] PNRI [1:31:48] what [1:31:51] neighboring [1:31:51] countries [1:31:52] ang [1:31:52] malapit [1:31:53] sa [1:31:53] bansa [1:31:53] na [1:31:53] maring [1:31:54] mga [1:31:54] transboundary [1:31:55] effect [1:31:56] na [1:31:56] nuclear [1:31:56] incident [1:31:57] are we [1:31:57] talking [1:31:57] here [1:31:57] like [1:31:57] Japan [1:31:58] and [1:31:58] China [1:31:58] itong [1:31:59] 2 [1:31:59] bansa [1:32:00] lang [1:32:00] na [1:32:00] ito [1:32:01] currently [1:32:03] Japan [1:32:03] and [1:32:04] China [1:32:04] are [1:32:04] the [1:32:05] biggest [1:32:05] Asian [1:32:07] neighbors [1:32:08] but [1:32:08] other [1:32:09] Asian [1:32:09] neighbors [1:32:10] have [1:32:10] research [1:32:11] reactors [1:32:11] pero [1:32:12] malaliit [1:32:12] lang [1:32:12] po [1:32:13] like [1:32:13] Indonesia [1:32:14] has [1:32:14] one [1:32:14] Malaysia [1:32:15] has [1:32:15] one [1:32:15] but [1:32:16] they're [1:32:16] like [1:32:16] 3 [1:32:17] megawatt [1:32:17] po [1:32:18] na [1:32:18] research [1:32:18] reactor [1:32:19] but [1:32:19] power [1:32:19] reactors [1:32:20] we [1:32:21] really [1:32:21] have [1:32:21] Japan [1:32:21] China [1:32:22] and [1:32:23] Taiwan [1:32:24] also [1:32:24] has [1:32:24] power [1:32:25] reactors [1:32:25] and [1:32:26] Korea [1:32:26] of course [1:32:26] South [1:32:27] Korea [1:32:27] itong [1:32:27] apat [1:32:28] na [1:32:28] bansa [1:32:28] ito [1:32:28] Japan [1:32:29] Korea [1:32:30] South [1:32:30] Korea [1:32:31] Taiwan [1:32:32] and [1:32:32] China [1:32:33] are [1:32:34] they [1:32:34] part [1:32:35] of [1:32:35] the [1:32:35] contracting [1:32:36] parties [1:32:37] po [1:32:37] sa [1:32:37] convention [1:32:38] lat [1:32:38] po [1:32:38] itong [1:32:39] apat [1:32:39] na [1:32:39] ito [1:32:39] Mr. [1:32:42] Chair [1:32:42] with [1:32:42] your [1:32:42] permission [1:32:43] for [1:32:44] the [1:32:44] CSC [1:32:44] ang [1:32:44] bahagi [1:32:45] lang [1:32:45] po [1:32:45] for [1:32:46] Asia [1:32:46] as [1:32:46] listed [1:32:47] in [1:32:47] the [1:32:47] IAEA [1:32:48] website [1:32:48] is [1:32:49] India [1:32:49] Japan [1:32:50] UAE [1:32:52] United [1:32:52] Arab [1:32:53] Emirates [1:32:53] po [1:32:53] Mr. [1:32:54] Chair [1:32:55] China [1:32:56] will [1:32:56] probably [1:32:57] never [1:32:57] sign [1:32:58] the [1:32:58] CSC [1:32:59] because [1:33:00] the [1:33:01] CSC [1:33:01] is being [1:33:02] propagated [1:33:05] worldwide [1:33:06] by the [1:33:06] United [1:33:07] States [1:33:07] so [1:33:08] malamang [1:33:09] never [1:33:10] pipirma [1:33:11] ang [1:33:11] China [1:33:12] sa [1:33:12] CSC [1:33:13] but [1:33:13] of course [1:33:14] we can [1:33:14] never [1:33:15] say [1:33:15] never [1:33:15] so [1:33:16] pag [1:33:17] nagkaroon [1:33:17] ba [1:33:17] ng [1:33:18] problema [1:33:18] rito [1:33:18] Director [1:33:20] Aquino [1:33:21] nagkaroon [1:33:22] ng [1:33:22] problema [1:33:22] sa [1:33:22] China [1:33:23] yung [1:33:24] kanilang [1:33:24] reactor [1:33:25] power [1:33:25] plant [1:33:26] lumabot [1:33:27] dito [1:33:27] yung [1:33:28] epekto [1:33:28] nito [1:33:29] hindi [1:33:29] sila [1:33:29] magbabayad [1:33:30] because [1:33:30] hindi [1:33:31] sila [1:33:31] part [1:33:32] ng [1:33:32] contracting [1:33:33] party [1:33:33] Mr. [1:33:34] Chair [1:33:35] but [1:33:35] I'll [1:33:36] defer [1:33:36] to [1:33:36] our [1:33:36] colleagues [1:33:37] from [1:33:37] the [1:33:37] DFA [1:33:38] but [1:33:38] our [1:33:38] understanding [1:33:39] is [1:33:39] that [1:33:39] specifically [1:33:41] for [1:33:41] this [1:33:41] particular [1:33:42] treaty [1:33:43] or [1:33:43] convention [1:33:43] hindi [1:33:44] po [1:33:44] but [1:33:44] of [1:33:45] course [1:33:45] we [1:33:45] can [1:33:45] use [1:33:46] all [1:33:46] our [1:33:46] diplomatic [1:33:47] mechanisms [1:33:47] to [1:33:48] protect [1:33:49] the [1:33:49] interest [1:33:49] of [1:33:50] our [1:33:50] country [1:33:50] and [1:33:50] our [1:33:50] peoples [1:33:51] we [1:33:51] defer [1:33:52] to [1:33:52] the [1:33:52] DFA [1:33:53] mechanism [1:33:54] specifically [1:33:55] outside [1:33:55] of [1:33:56] this [1:33:56] convention [1:33:56] or [1:33:57] treaty [1:33:57] Yes [1:33:59] Chair [1:34:00] we could [1:34:00] go [1:34:00] the [1:34:00] bilateral [1:34:01] route [1:34:01] if [1:34:02] not [1:34:03] within [1:34:03] this [1:34:03] convention [1:34:03] there are [1:34:05] other [1:34:05] options [1:34:05] sir [1:34:05] diplomatic [1:34:06] options [1:34:07] Wala [1:34:07] pong [1:34:07] nakalatag [1:34:08] for [1:34:09] example [1:34:09] kung [1:34:10] sakasakaling [1:34:10] nagka [1:34:10] problema [1:34:11] na [1:34:11] disgrusting [1:34:12] doon [1:34:12] yung [1:34:13] kanilang [1:34:13] nuclear [1:34:14] power [1:34:14] plant [1:34:15] at [1:34:15] umabot [1:34:15] po [1:34:15] dito [1:34:16] problema [1:34:16] sa [1:34:16] atin [1:34:17] sa [1:34:17] pag-asa [1:34:18] dahil [1:34:18] malapit [1:34:19] wala [1:34:20] po tayong [1:34:20] ika nga [1:34:21] mahihita [1:34:22] ika nga [1:34:23] na [1:34:23] mahahabol [1:34:24] sa [1:34:24] kanila [1:34:25] kasi [1:34:26] hindi [1:34:27] po sila [1:34:27] part [1:34:28] ng [1:34:28] contracting [1:34:29] party [1:34:31] ma'am [1:34:32] at saka [1:34:32] so [1:34:33] yung [1:34:33] mga [1:34:34] kababayan [1:34:34] natin [1:34:34] na [1:34:35] apektado [1:34:35] ay [1:34:35] walang [1:34:36] makukuha [1:34:37] Supplementary Compensation Fund. May singkong duling. [1:34:42] Papano po ito? [1:34:43] How do we, makikiusap po tayo na, please naman, bayaran nyo namang kami. [1:34:50] Chair, is specific to this convention. [1:34:52] Hindi po. We cannot invoke this convention since they are not a contracting party, understand? [1:34:57] But sir, there are other options, Chair. [1:35:00] China is a party to the IAEA. [1:35:03] It's a member to the IAEA, the International Atomic Agency. [1:35:07] And we can explore our options there. [1:35:10] And of course, there's always the bilateral route, sir. [1:35:13] Have you started the IAEA or planning to do that route? [1:35:17] Yung mag-bilateral route tayo ngayon hanggang di pa sila po contracting party? [1:35:26] Wala pa, sir. As far as we know, sir, wala pa. [1:35:30] With regard to nuclear repercussions, mga incidents, na possible incidents, sir. [1:35:36] But we could look into that. [1:35:38] Alright, parang talo naman ho tayo dyan. [1:35:42] Lugi naman ho tayo. [1:35:44] Mapapasa natin itong mga treaties ho na ito, conventions na ito. [1:35:52] Pero yung neighbor po natin, hindi ho nakapirma. [1:35:55] Pag nagka-problema ho sila doon, tama sa atin, [1:35:59] sasaluin natin yung problema, wala tayong makukuha. [1:36:02] Naising kundulingan. [1:36:04] We have to study this, di ba? [1:36:06] Ito po yung importante rito eh. [1:36:09] I mean, mabuti ho na-raise po itong issue na ito. [1:36:12] Kung hindi, akala ho natin, si China is contracting party din, [1:36:16] mabayaran tayo, maganda ho pakinggan, di ho ba? [1:36:18] Pero, so how do we address this issue now? [1:36:21] Itong supplementary compensation. [1:36:23] Yung mga kababayan natin, sabihin na natin, [1:36:25] God forbid, yung mga kababayan natin sa Pag-asa Island, [1:36:28] tinamaan doon, nasa ilang daan lang po sila doon, [1:36:32] walang makukuha kasi sabihin ng China, [1:36:34] hindi naman kami, wala kami pinirmahan dyan na, [1:36:37] na mga supplementary compensation fund na yan. [1:36:40] We're not. [1:36:41] So, papano natin hahabulin po ito? [1:36:43] Nga nga. [1:36:47] Go ahead po. Go ahead, Director Samson. [1:36:50] With regards to these different conventions, [1:36:54] actually, Senator, they are campaigning heavily to other countries [1:36:59] to be a contracting party of the supplemental convention [1:37:03] as well as the different joint conventions [1:37:05] to have a global regime of nuclear compensation po. [1:37:10] So, if the Philippines ratifies this convention, [1:37:14] this will also be a signal to our other ASEAN neighbors [1:37:18] and we can also campaign to our other ASEAN neighbors [1:37:21] to accede to this, to these conventions [1:37:24] so that we are, we will be contracting parties [1:37:28] and that we can also have, when there are campaigns, [1:37:32] campaigns of the CSC and other joint conventions [1:37:35] for compensation, we can actually join. [1:37:37] So, to promote these conventions [1:37:40] para po ay magratify po yung ating mga neighbor, [1:37:44] big neighboring countries na merong nuclear power. [1:37:46] But I would just like to point out [1:37:48] that si Japan po, which is nearer to us, [1:37:51] is a party to the CSC. [1:37:54] Kaya isa na po yung guarantee sa atin na [1:37:56] at least si Japan ay contracting party na po. [1:38:00] Director Aquino. [1:38:01] Mr. Chair, with your permission, [1:38:04] just by way of sequencing lang po, [1:38:06] baka naman kasi ang naiiwan sa ating mga kababayan, [1:38:10] parang magme-member tayo dito, [1:38:11] specifically on the compensation regime, [1:38:14] wala tayong dudulugan kapag meron pong nangyaring [1:38:18] untoward incident. [1:38:19] Just to be clear lang po and to put on record, [1:38:22] pareho pong membro ng IAEA ang Pilipinas at ang China. [1:38:26] Una sa lahat. [1:38:27] Pangalawa po, pareho po tayong membro [1:38:29] ng Convention on Early Notification of Nuclear Accident. [1:38:33] Pareho pong in-enforce na po ito. [1:38:35] So, kung meron pong nangyaring aksidente, [1:38:38] dapat po sinabihan tayo. [1:38:40] So, hindi po yung mabibigla ang mga kababayan natin. [1:38:42] If at any point in time, [1:38:44] meron pong nangyari at hindi tayo sinabihan [1:38:46] ng karating nating bansa, [1:38:49] meron pong ramification yun sa ilalim po [1:38:51] ng ating Convention on Early Notification. [1:38:53] Pangalawa po, I think this was already touched upon [1:38:55] by Dr. Samson and our colleagues from DFA. [1:38:58] We can use the IAEA process [1:39:01] because there's also Philippines and China [1:39:04] are both parties to the Convention on Assistance [1:39:07] for Nuclear Accident or Radiological Emergency. [1:39:11] So, there are protocols in place, Mr. Chair, [1:39:15] at least at the onset. [1:39:16] So, kapag meron pong nangyari, [1:39:17] duty-bound po si China [1:39:19] kung dun pong nangyari yung incident [1:39:21] at bilang membro rin po sila dun sa IAEA [1:39:24] at dun sa dalawang convention po na [1:39:25] pareho na tayong party, [1:39:27] dapat po sinasabi. [1:39:28] At ang nakalagay po dun sa dalawang party, [1:39:30] maliwanag po, [1:39:32] kailangan pong mag-facilitate sila [1:39:33] ng assistance sa atin [1:39:35] para ma-minimize po yung impact [1:39:38] sa tao, sa property, at sa environment. [1:39:42] Yung pinag-uusapan po lang natin dito [1:39:44] kasi kaya natin dinudulog yung [1:39:45] buod sa investor confidence [1:39:47] kagaya po nung na-establish natin [1:39:48] is yung extent po nung liability. [1:39:51] So, just to be very clear po, [1:39:53] meron po tayong mga protocols in place [1:39:55] na kapag kami nangyari po, [1:39:57] China and the Philippines [1:39:58] have a standing convention [1:40:00] under a framework of at least two conventions [1:40:02] na nagsasabing, [1:40:03] may responsibilidad po na mag-notify si China, [1:40:06] may responsibilidad po na [1:40:08] magpagbigay ng immediate assistance [1:40:10] in relation to preserving life, [1:40:12] protecting the environment, [1:40:13] and protecting property, [1:40:14] Mr. Chair. [1:40:15] Saan yung convention po yan? [1:40:17] Yung convention po ito, [1:40:18] yung una ko pong binabanggit [1:40:19] is convention on early notification [1:40:21] of a nuclear accident. [1:40:24] Both parties po signed it. [1:40:26] It came to enforce sa China po [1:40:28] noong October 11, 1987, [1:40:31] at sa Pilipinas naman po, [1:40:33] June 5, 1997. [1:40:35] Yung pangalawa pong convention [1:40:36] na binabanggit ko on the assistance [1:40:39] in the case of the nuclear accident, [1:40:41] yung listing po nito sa China [1:40:44] naging effective po siya [1:40:45] noong October 11, 1987, [1:40:47] at yung sa atin po, [1:40:48] yung June 5, 1997. [1:40:52] Ang emergency cooperation framework po ito, [1:40:54] Mr. Chair. [1:40:55] Emergency cooperation lang, [1:40:57] pero wala naman nakasaad doon [1:40:58] na compensation. [1:40:59] Kaya nga po, [1:41:00] may bukod pong convention. [1:41:01] Ang nilalagay ko lang po sa on record [1:41:03] na meron pong obligasyon [1:41:05] ang ating China [1:41:06] na i-minimize nga po, [1:41:08] pero yung extent po nung damage, [1:41:09] yung po yung kino-cover [1:41:10] nitong CSC po. [1:41:11] Baka nakakalimutan po natin, [1:41:13] Director Aquino, [1:41:14] na on China po minsan, [1:41:16] matikas mo ang ulo. [1:41:18] Yung sa UNCLOS na lamang po, [1:41:20] hindi ko na sinusunod. [1:41:21] I mean, [1:41:21] I'm just, [1:41:22] just be frank with you. [1:41:23] Hindi po ba? [1:41:24] And then, [1:41:24] you're saying na [1:41:25] susunod yan [1:41:27] dahil may treaty tayo. [1:41:28] Ito na nga, [1:41:28] UNCLOS naman. [1:41:29] We are both members of UNCLOS, [1:41:31] pero hindi naman po [1:41:32] ginagalang yung [1:41:33] decision ng UNCLOS. [1:41:35] So how is that? [1:41:36] Ano ang guarantee natin [1:41:37] na susundin mo rito? [1:41:44] Hindi po ba? [1:41:45] Mr. Chair, [1:41:46] siguro po ang colleagues [1:41:47] rin natin sa DFA [1:41:48] can give support [1:41:52] credence to this [1:41:52] and also our colleagues [1:41:54] from DOST. [1:41:56] China is a vendor country [1:41:57] for the nuclear technology. [1:42:00] And what will be, [1:42:01] if they are unable [1:42:02] to keep up [1:42:03] with the safe operation [1:42:04] and make sure [1:42:06] that their plants, [1:42:07] in the event [1:42:07] it does have damage, [1:42:10] cannot extend [1:42:11] and support the assistance, [1:42:14] meron pong impact [1:42:14] sa ability [1:42:15] po ng bansa nila [1:42:16] na magbenta po [1:42:17] nung technology. [1:42:19] So yun po yung isang lever [1:42:20] not necessarily po [1:42:22] dito sa convention na ito, [1:42:24] na mechanism na maari [1:42:25] po natin gawin. [1:42:26] Kasi vendor country po [1:42:27] si China [1:42:27] ng nuclear. [1:42:29] Actively po siya ngayon [1:42:30] na nagsisik [1:42:31] sa iba't ibang bahagi [1:42:32] ng mundo [1:42:33] na magbigay [1:42:34] ng kanyang teknolohiya. [1:42:36] Kung dumating po, [1:42:37] knock on wood, [1:42:37] sa sitwasyon [1:42:38] na meron pong aksidente [1:42:39] at hindi matutugonan [1:42:40] ng China ito [1:42:41] sa isang pamamaraan [1:42:43] na katanggap-tanggap [1:42:44] sa mundo, [1:42:46] meron pong, [1:42:46] sa tingin ko po, [1:42:47] personal po, [1:42:48] meron pong magiging [1:42:49] consequences ito [1:42:50] sa kanilang standing [1:42:50] as a nuclear [1:42:52] operator, [1:42:53] as a country, [1:42:54] and as a nuclear [1:42:55] vendor, [1:42:55] Mr. Chair, [1:42:56] which hopefully, [1:42:57] all things considered, [1:42:59] will be enough [1:42:59] pressure [1:43:00] or onus [1:43:01] on their part [1:43:02] to ensure [1:43:03] that the Philippines, [1:43:04] in the event [1:43:04] that happens, [1:43:05] is taken care of, [1:43:06] Mr. Chair. [1:43:07] Sana nga, [1:43:08] I mean, [1:43:09] you're right, [1:43:09] Director Aquino, [1:43:10] when we get to that point, [1:43:13] pero sinasabi ko nga lang, [1:43:14] medyo nagdududa ho tayo. [1:43:16] Department of Foreign Affairs, [1:43:18] your comment on this, [1:43:21] papano ho natin gagawin nito? [1:43:24] May mga treaties daho tayo [1:43:26] other than this [1:43:26] ng SCF, [1:43:33] Supplementary Compensation Fund po. [1:43:35] Yes, [1:43:36] Honorable Chair, [1:43:37] we can invoke [1:43:37] those conventions, [1:43:39] but at the end of the day, [1:43:41] Sir, [1:43:41] as you yourself said, [1:43:43] wala naman tayong assurance [1:43:44] magating sa ating [1:43:45] sa ating [1:43:46] neighbor, [1:43:47] but just to [1:43:48] just to comment, [1:43:50] Chair, [1:43:50] that China [1:43:51] channels liability [1:43:53] to the operator, [1:43:54] so there are indeed, [1:43:56] as I said, [1:43:56] there are bilateral mechanisms [1:43:58] that can be explored [1:43:58] should an incident occur. [1:44:01] And, [1:44:02] and Sir, [1:44:02] on the, [1:44:04] on it not being [1:44:05] a state party [1:44:06] to the convention, [1:44:07] mayroon din pong, [1:44:10] how do you call this, [1:44:11] we call it [1:44:12] reputational risk, [1:44:13] but it's also, Sir, [1:44:14] connected with what [1:44:15] DOE just said, [1:44:17] we can pressure, [1:44:18] there are more states [1:44:19] that are getting on board [1:44:20] with these conventions, [1:44:22] and we can pressure [1:44:23] other state party [1:44:24] to comply [1:44:25] with such, [1:44:26] with such, [1:44:27] standards, [1:44:28] standards or [1:44:29] commitments. [1:44:31] Sana nga po, [1:44:32] kasi nangyayari [1:44:33] ho dito, [1:44:34] parang lagi ho tayong [1:44:35] the losing end, [1:44:37] di po ba? [1:44:38] Lagi ho tayong [1:44:38] kawawa [1:44:39] sa neighbor po natin, [1:44:41] lagi ho tayong [1:44:42] ikanga, [1:44:43] parang [1:44:44] sila ho [1:44:46] nasusunod. [1:44:47] And anyway, [1:44:48] moving forward po, [1:44:49] I have a question po, [1:44:50] sa aling agency po [1:44:54] kaya ito, [1:44:55] DFA or DOE, [1:44:57] budget line item [1:44:59] na ilalagay [1:45:00] yung contribution po [1:45:00] ng Pilipinas, [1:45:01] supplementary compensation [1:45:02] fund, if ever. [1:45:04] Anong agency po ito? [1:45:05] Napag-usapan na po ba [1:45:06] ng joint task force ito? [1:45:08] Is it DOE? [1:45:10] Is that DOSD? [1:45:11] Mr. Chair, [1:45:12] I think, [1:45:13] at least on the [1:45:14] working discussions, [1:45:15] we'll confirm it [1:45:16] when we do the [1:45:17] submission, [1:45:19] Mr. Chair, [1:45:19] most likely, [1:45:21] we'll try to [1:45:21] lodge it with [1:45:22] Phil Atom [1:45:23] as the regulator, [1:45:24] all of the [1:45:25] necessary [1:45:25] implementation costs [1:45:27] in relation [1:45:27] to the ratification [1:45:29] if we do [1:45:29] accede to [1:45:30] these conventions [1:45:31] and treaties. [1:45:31] Can you give us [1:45:32] a ballpark figure [1:45:33] now? [1:45:34] How much are we [1:45:34] talking? [1:45:35] I mean, [1:45:35] how much budget [1:45:36] are we talking? [1:45:37] Mr. Chair, [1:45:38] earlier, [1:45:38] I think Dr. [1:45:40] Samson already [1:45:40] mentioned [1:45:41] that it will not [1:45:42] be more than [1:45:43] $2,000 [1:45:44] and then [1:45:45] annually [1:45:46] and then the [1:45:47] participation [1:45:47] of the [1:45:48] Philippine [1:45:49] contingent [1:45:49] on the [1:45:50] triennial [1:45:50] activities [1:45:51] of the [1:45:53] IAEA [1:45:53] in relation [1:45:54] to these [1:45:54] conventions, [1:45:55] Mr. Chair. [1:45:57] All right, [1:45:57] thank you. [1:45:58] Sinwin? [1:45:59] Just to follow up, [1:46:00] Mr. Chairman, [1:46:02] yung kanina narinig [1:46:04] ko na [1:46:04] importanting [1:46:06] role [1:46:06] ng Phil [1:46:06] Atom [1:46:07] in all of [1:46:08] this [1:46:08] convention. [1:46:09] So, [1:46:09] where are we [1:46:09] now [1:46:10] in terms [1:46:10] of [1:46:11] implementing [1:46:13] Phil [1:46:13] Atom? [1:46:14] There's a [1:46:14] law already, [1:46:15] of course, [1:46:16] courtesy [1:46:16] congressman [1:46:17] Mark [1:46:18] who for many, [1:46:21] many years [1:46:21] crafted this [1:46:23] law and [1:46:25] finally [1:46:25] na-approve [1:46:26] siya. [1:46:27] So, [1:46:27] where are we [1:46:27] now in [1:46:28] terms of [1:46:28] putting that [1:46:29] together? [1:46:30] I don't [1:46:31] believe it's [1:46:31] in the [1:46:31] 2026 [1:46:32] budget. [1:46:33] Hindi ko [1:46:34] napansin [1:46:34] siya. [1:46:35] But, [1:46:36] ano ba [1:46:37] ang kanyang [1:46:37] timetable? [1:46:42] Go ahead. [1:46:43] Mr. Chair, [1:46:45] based on [1:46:45] the law, [1:46:46] the IRR [1:46:48] should be [1:46:48] crafted [1:46:49] upon the [1:46:50] appointment [1:46:51] of the [1:46:52] director [1:46:53] general [1:46:53] and the [1:46:54] four [1:46:54] deputy [1:46:55] director [1:46:55] generals. [1:46:57] So far, [1:46:59] there is [1:46:59] no appointment [1:47:01] yet [1:47:02] after the [1:47:03] law has [1:47:03] been [1:47:03] signed. [1:47:04] But, [1:47:05] initially, [1:47:06] the [1:47:06] Department [1:47:07] of [1:47:07] Science [1:47:07] and [1:47:08] Technology [1:47:08] took [1:47:08] the [1:47:09] initiative [1:47:09] to [1:47:10] draft [1:47:11] the [1:47:11] IRR. [1:47:13] But, [1:47:13] our [1:47:15] attention [1:47:15] was [1:47:15] called [1:47:16] by [1:47:17] Senator [1:47:18] Cahuanko [1:47:19] that [1:47:19] this is [1:47:20] not [1:47:21] compliant [1:47:21] with [1:47:25] the [1:47:29] law. [1:47:29] So, [1:47:30] it [1:47:30] remained [1:47:31] with [1:47:32] the [1:47:32] Department [1:47:33] of [1:47:34] Science [1:47:34] and [1:47:34] Technology. [1:47:35] Mr. Chair, [1:47:36] may I [1:47:36] comment on [1:47:37] that? [1:47:38] The [1:47:39] Republic [1:47:40] Act [1:47:40] 12305 [1:47:41] mandates [1:47:42] that [1:47:43] the [1:47:44] IRR [1:47:45] must be [1:47:46] completed [1:47:48] 180 [1:47:50] days [1:47:50] after the [1:47:51] law [1:47:52] comes into [1:47:52] effect. [1:47:54] But, [1:47:55] to do [1:47:55] that, [1:47:56] you need [1:47:57] to have [1:47:57] the [1:47:58] director [1:47:58] general [1:47:59] and deputy [1:48:00] director [1:48:00] generals [1:48:01] appointed [1:48:01] and [1:48:02] convened [1:48:03] as [1:48:03] a [1:48:04] body. [1:48:05] That [1:48:06] hasn't [1:48:06] happened. [1:48:08] And, [1:48:09] we are [1:48:09] past [1:48:10] 180 [1:48:10] days. [1:48:12] So, [1:48:12] we are [1:48:12] in [1:48:13] violation [1:48:13] of the [1:48:14] law [1:48:14] already. [1:48:16] I [1:48:17] find fault [1:48:18] with [1:48:20] DOE [1:48:21] as the [1:48:23] lead [1:48:23] agency [1:48:24] of the [1:48:24] NEPIAC [1:48:25] for [1:48:26] misadvising [1:48:27] the [1:48:27] president [1:48:27] on the [1:48:28] urgency [1:48:29] of [1:48:30] appointing [1:48:31] the [1:48:32] deputy [1:48:33] director [1:48:33] generals [1:48:34] and the [1:48:35] director [1:48:35] general. [1:48:37] Bakit po [1:48:38] they [1:48:40] acceded [1:48:41] to [1:48:42] the [1:48:45] wrong [1:48:45] agency [1:48:46] writing [1:48:47] the [1:48:47] IRRs? [1:48:50] Why [1:48:51] did they [1:48:51] not [1:48:52] prioritize [1:48:53] the [1:48:54] recommendation [1:48:55] to the [1:48:56] president [1:48:56] to appoint [1:48:57] those [1:48:59] that needed [1:49:00] appointing? [1:49:01] Thank you, [1:49:01] Mr. [1:49:01] Chair. [1:49:01] be [1:49:04] under [1:49:04] the [1:49:05] office [1:49:05] of [1:49:05] the [1:49:05] president. [1:49:06] Which [1:49:07] one? [1:49:08] Phil [1:49:10] Atom [1:49:10] is [1:49:11] an [1:49:11] independent [1:49:12] agency. [1:49:14] The [1:49:15] only [1:49:15] authority [1:49:16] of the [1:49:16] president [1:49:17] over [1:49:17] the [1:49:17] Phil [1:49:18] Atom [1:49:18] is [1:49:19] the [1:49:20] appointment [1:49:20] of [1:49:21] the [1:49:22] director [1:49:23] general [1:49:24] and [1:49:24] deputy [1:49:25] director [1:49:25] general [1:49:26] and [1:49:27] also [1:49:28] there [1:49:30] is [1:49:31] a [1:49:31] permitting [1:49:32] process [1:49:33] for [1:49:33] advanced [1:49:35] reactors [1:49:35] those [1:49:37] that [1:49:37] are [1:49:37] not [1:49:38] water [1:49:38] reactors [1:49:39] these [1:49:40] are [1:49:41] new [1:49:42] so [1:49:42] since we [1:49:43] did not [1:49:44] want to [1:49:44] be [1:49:45] what you [1:49:47] call it [1:49:47] trial [1:49:50] balloon [1:49:50] since we [1:49:58] did not want [1:49:59] to [1:50:00] guinea pig [1:50:01] ang [1:50:01] Pilipinas [1:50:02] sa [1:50:02] advanced [1:50:03] reactors [1:50:03] require [1:50:04] ng [1:50:05] batas [1:50:05] ng [1:50:05] two [1:50:06] years [1:50:06] of [1:50:07] trouble [1:50:08] free [1:50:08] operational [1:50:09] experience [1:50:10] in the [1:50:10] vendor [1:50:10] country [1:50:11] of [1:50:11] origin [1:50:12] and [1:50:14] and [1:50:14] kung [1:50:17] sasabihin [1:50:18] ni [1:50:18] presidente [1:50:19] na [1:50:20] hindi [1:50:21] okay [1:50:22] na yan [1:50:23] kasi [1:50:23] kinausap [1:50:25] ako [1:50:25] ng [1:50:25] US [1:50:25] president [1:50:26] mahusa [1:50:27] yan [1:50:27] pwede [1:50:28] niyang [1:50:29] i-overrule [1:50:30] po yun [1:50:30] yung [1:50:31] two-year [1:50:32] requirement [1:50:32] thank you [1:50:34] quickly [1:50:36] lang po [1:50:36] sa [1:50:36] department [1:50:37] of [1:50:37] justice [1:50:37] kanina [1:50:39] ko pa [1:50:39] itong [1:50:39] naisip [1:50:40] sa [1:50:40] tingin [1:50:41] niyo [1:50:41] ba [1:50:41] department [1:50:42] of [1:50:42] justice [1:50:43] itong [1:50:45] technical [1:50:46] at [1:50:46] legal [1:50:46] handa [1:50:47] na [1:50:47] po [1:50:47] ba [1:50:48] kayo [1:50:48] just [1:50:48] in [1:50:49] case [1:50:49] ang [1:50:50] ating [1:50:50] judicial [1:50:50] system [1:50:51] na [1:50:51] mag [1:50:52] handle [1:50:52] po [1:50:52] ng [1:50:53] ganito [1:50:53] kakomplex [1:50:54] yung [1:50:54] mga [1:50:54] transnational [1:50:55] claims [1:50:56] po [1:50:56] for [1:50:57] example [1:50:57] we [1:50:58] go [1:50:58] to [1:50:59] Japan [1:50:59] or [1:51:00] Taiwan [1:51:01] are [1:51:02] we [1:51:02] ready [1:51:03] for [1:51:03] this [1:51:03] ito [1:51:04] po [1:51:05] pinag-aaralan [1:51:06] na [1:51:07] how [1:51:07] do [1:51:07] you [1:51:08] do [1:51:08] this [1:51:08] yung [1:51:08] ating [1:51:08] mga [1:51:09] prosecutors [1:51:09] yes [1:51:12] good [1:51:12] morning [1:51:12] mr. [1:51:13] chair [1:51:13] good [1:51:13] morning [1:51:13] your [1:51:14] honors [1:51:14] yes [1:51:16] your [1:51:16] honor [1:51:16] when [1:51:17] we [1:51:17] were [1:51:17] asked [1:51:18] for [1:51:18] the [1:51:19] issue [1:51:19] once [1:51:20] of [1:51:20] a [1:51:20] certificate [1:51:20] of [1:51:21] concurrence [1:51:21] on [1:51:21] these [1:51:22] four [1:51:22] instruments [1:51:22] we [1:51:24] already [1:51:24] looked [1:51:25] into [1:51:26] the [1:51:26] issues [1:51:27] that [1:51:28] may [1:51:29] come [1:51:29] up [1:51:29] with [1:51:30] the [1:51:30] Philippines [1:51:31] ratifying [1:51:32] these [1:51:32] conventions [1:51:33] and [1:51:33] I [1:51:34] think [1:51:34] since [1:51:35] we [1:51:35] issued [1:51:36] our [1:51:36] certificate [1:51:37] of [1:51:37] concurrence [1:51:38] on [1:51:38] these [1:51:38] instruments [1:51:39] yes [1:51:40] we [1:51:40] can [1:51:40] say [1:51:40] that [1:51:41] the [1:51:41] Philippines [1:51:41] is [1:51:42] ready [1:51:42] for [1:51:42] these [1:51:43] four [1:51:43] conventions [1:51:44] Mr. [1:51:44] All right [1:51:45] and the [1:51:46] Department [1:51:46] of [1:51:46] Finance [1:51:47] nire-require [1:51:50] po ng [1:51:51] convention [1:51:51] ng mga [1:51:52] nuclear [1:51:52] operators [1:51:53] na sapat [1:51:55] ang financial [1:51:55] security [1:51:56] o insurance [1:51:57] para makover [1:51:57] ang potential [1:51:59] liabilities [1:52:00] sa [1:52:01] assessment [1:52:01] po ba [1:52:02] ng DOF [1:52:03] kasamang [1:52:04] insurance [1:52:04] commission [1:52:05] may kapasidad [1:52:06] ba ang ating [1:52:07] local insurance [1:52:08] market [1:52:08] na i-cover [1:52:09] po ang [1:52:10] nuclear [1:52:10] liability [1:52:11] o mapipilitan [1:52:12] ng ating [1:52:12] mga [1:52:12] operator [1:52:13] na umasa [1:52:14] po ng [1:52:15] buo [1:52:15] sa mga [1:52:15] international [1:52:16] insurance [1:52:17] pools [1:52:17] Good morning [1:52:19] Mr. Chair [1:52:20] Good morning [1:52:22] Your Honors [1:52:23] Based on the [1:52:24] input from [1:52:25] the insurance [1:52:25] commission [1:52:26] they were [1:52:27] already [1:52:29] looked into [1:52:29] the [1:52:30] total [1:52:31] maximum [1:52:32] liability [1:52:33] of around [1:52:33] 25 billion [1:52:34] and they're [1:52:35] saying that [1:52:36] the [1:52:36] local [1:52:37] insurance [1:52:37] industry [1:52:38] can cover [1:52:40] this [1:52:40] liability [1:52:41] Your Honor [1:52:41] Yung [1:52:43] 25 [1:52:44] billion [1:52:44] po [1:52:44] is [1:52:45] what [1:52:46] you're [1:52:46] saying [1:52:46] or [1:52:47] baka [1:52:48] iasa [1:52:48] po [1:52:48] ito [1:52:49] sa [1:52:49] gobyerno [1:52:49] natin [1:52:50] I mean [1:52:50] wala [1:52:50] na [1:52:51] talaga [1:52:51] tayong [1:52:51] pera [1:52:52] at [1:52:52] baka [1:52:52] pag [1:52:53] hindi [1:52:53] po [1:52:53] kakayanin [1:52:53] ang [1:52:53] ating [1:52:54] mga [1:52:54] insurance [1:52:54] claims [1:52:55] po [1:52:55] baka [1:52:56] ituro [1:52:56] po [1:52:57] ang [1:52:57] gobyerno [1:52:57] natin [1:52:58] na naman [1:52:58] ang [1:52:58] gobyerno [1:52:59] ang [1:52:59] papasan [1:52:59] and of [1:53:00] course [1:53:00] pag [1:53:00] ang [1:53:01] gobyerno [1:53:01] ang [1:53:01] papasan [1:53:02] sagot [1:53:03] din po [1:53:03] ng [1:53:03] taong [1:53:03] bayan [1:53:04] asek [1:53:05] napaw [1:53:06] the [1:53:07] ic [1:53:07] input [1:53:08] your [1:53:08] honor [1:53:08] mentioned [1:53:09] that [1:53:09] although [1:53:11] the [1:53:11] 25 [1:53:12] billion [1:53:12] is [1:53:12] not [1:53:13] is [1:53:14] beyond [1:53:14] the [1:53:14] capacity [1:53:15] of a [1:53:15] single [1:53:15] local [1:53:16] non-life [1:53:17] insurance [1:53:18] company [1:53:18] there are [1:53:19] mechanisms [1:53:20] in the [1:53:21] industry [1:53:21] including [1:53:22] reinsurance [1:53:25] scheme [1:53:26] and [1:53:27] they're also [1:53:28] proposing [1:53:28] to explore [1:53:30] a national [1:53:31] nuclear [1:53:32] insurance [1:53:32] pool [1:53:32] whereby [1:53:33] this will [1:53:35] involve [1:53:36] local [1:53:37] insurers [1:53:37] to [1:53:37] voluntarily [1:53:38] join [1:53:39] a [1:53:39] co-insurance [1:53:40] on a [1:53:41] co-insurance [1:53:41] basis [1:53:42] all right [1:53:43] thank you [1:53:44] asik napaw [1:53:44] do you have [1:53:45] any more [1:53:46] questions [1:53:46] what about [1:53:48] you sir [1:53:48] congressman [1:53:49] mark [1:53:50] wala [1:53:54] na pong [1:53:54] question [1:53:55] pero [1:53:55] ang [1:53:56] masasabi [1:53:57] ko [1:53:57] lang [1:53:57] po [1:53:57] we [1:54:00] need [1:54:01] these [1:54:01] conventions [1:54:02] whether [1:54:04] or not [1:54:04] we [1:54:05] go [1:54:05] into [1:54:06] nuclear [1:54:06] power [1:54:06] we [1:54:09] need [1:54:09] the [1:54:10] joint [1:54:10] protocol [1:54:11] to be [1:54:12] included [1:54:13] in [1:54:15] these [1:54:15] four [1:54:15] conventions [1:54:16] so there [1:54:17] will [1:54:17] be [1:54:17] five [1:54:17] conventions [1:54:18] at [1:54:19] the [1:54:19] soonest [1:54:20] possible [1:54:20] time [1:54:21] the [1:54:24] DFA [1:54:24] did not [1:54:25] give [1:54:25] a [1:54:25] date [1:54:26] when [1:54:27] they [1:54:27] expect [1:54:28] the [1:54:29] president [1:54:29] to write [1:54:30] a letter [1:54:30] to [1:54:32] the [1:54:34] Senate [1:54:34] so [1:54:35] dapat po [1:54:37] siguro [1:54:38] yun yung [1:54:38] hard date [1:54:39] na dapat [1:54:40] natin [1:54:41] malaman [1:54:42] I think [1:54:43] the [1:54:43] Odesga [1:54:44] is just [1:54:45] waiting [1:54:45] for the [1:54:46] DFA [1:54:47] to [1:54:48] advise [1:54:49] them [1:54:49] and [1:54:51] they [1:54:51] will [1:54:51] proceed [1:54:52] with [1:54:52] getting [1:54:52] the [1:54:53] president [1:54:53] to [1:54:53] sign [1:54:54] so [1:54:55] kailan [1:54:56] po [1:54:57] darating [1:54:58] sa [1:54:58] Senado [1:54:59] ang [1:55:00] sulat [1:55:00] ni [1:55:00] presidente [1:55:01] requesting [1:55:02] na [1:55:03] pati [1:55:03] yung [1:55:04] joint [1:55:04] protocol [1:55:05] ay [1:55:05] hinihiling [1:55:07] nila [1:55:07] na [1:55:08] i-ratify [1:55:10] ng [1:55:10] Senado [1:55:11] Thank [1:55:12] you [1:55:13] Congressman [1:55:14] Mark [1:55:15] actually [1:55:16] ako po [1:55:17] tatanungin [1:55:18] personally [1:55:18] I agree [1:55:20] dito po [1:55:20] na we really [1:55:21] have to [1:55:21] ratify [1:55:22] these [1:55:23] conventions [1:55:23] really need [1:55:24] it [1:55:24] we're lagging [1:55:25] behind po [1:55:26] lahat po [1:55:26] ng [1:55:27] countries [1:55:27] around us [1:55:28] they are [1:55:28] using [1:55:29] all this [1:55:29] in [1:55:29] nuclear [1:55:30] electricity [1:55:31] in [1:55:32] medicine [1:55:32] etc [1:55:33] the question [1:55:34] lamang po [1:55:34] is how [1:55:35] do we [1:55:35] sell [1:55:35] this [1:55:36] to [1:55:36] the [1:55:36] public [1:55:36] mga [1:55:37] kababayan [1:55:38] natin [1:55:38] mga [1:55:38] nasa [1:55:38] kabundok [1:55:39] nasa [1:55:39] bukid [1:55:40] papasukan [1:55:41] pa [1:55:41] dyan [1:55:41] ng [1:55:41] mga [1:55:42] statements [1:55:42] na [1:55:43] kung [1:55:43] ano-ano [1:55:43] mga [1:55:43] grupo [1:55:44] na [1:55:44] delikado [1:55:45] yan [1:55:45] tutunaw [1:55:47] tayo [1:55:47] meron [1:55:50] kinomisyon [1:55:50] po [1:55:51] ang DOE [1:55:52] na [1:55:53] SWS [1:55:54] survey [1:55:55] na [1:55:56] nung [1:55:57] lumabas [1:55:57] po [1:55:57] ang [1:55:57] resulta [1:55:58] tinago [1:55:59] po [1:55:59] nila [1:55:59] na [1:56:01] nagsasabi [1:56:02] na [1:56:02] 82% [1:56:05] ng lahat [1:56:05] po [1:56:06] ng [1:56:06] Pilipino [1:56:07] ay [1:56:08] sangayon [1:56:09] sa [1:56:09] nuclear [1:56:09] power [1:56:10] pati [1:56:10] po [1:56:11] sa [1:56:12] bataan [1:56:13] mismo [1:56:14] 60 [1:56:16] plus [1:56:16] percent [1:56:17] ay sangayon [1:56:19] sa [1:56:20] nuclear [1:56:21] power [1:56:21] so [1:56:22] inimbargo [1:56:23] po nila [1:56:24] ang resulta [1:56:25] pati na po [1:56:26] sa chairman [1:56:27] ng nuclear [1:56:29] committee [1:56:30] ng [1:56:30] house of [1:56:31] representatives [1:56:32] inimbok pa [1:56:34] namin [1:56:35] ang freedom [1:56:35] of [1:56:36] information [1:56:36] executive [1:56:37] order [1:56:38] para [1:56:38] makuha [1:56:39] po [1:56:39] sa kanila [1:56:40] bakit [1:56:42] tinatago [1:56:43] yung [1:56:43] mga [1:56:44] resulta [1:56:44] yan [1:56:45] can [1:56:47] can [1:56:47] we [1:56:48] submit [1:56:50] that [1:56:50] to [1:56:50] the [1:56:51] committee [1:56:51] mr [1:56:52] chair [1:56:53] the [1:56:53] department [1:56:54] of [1:56:54] energy [1:56:55] will [1:56:55] be [1:56:55] providing [1:56:55] the [1:56:56] full [1:56:56] copy [1:56:57] similar [1:56:57] to [1:56:58] what [1:56:58] was [1:56:58] provided [1:56:58] to [1:56:58] the [1:56:59] house [1:56:59] special [1:56:59] committee [1:56:59] on [1:57:00] nuclear [1:57:00] on [1:57:00] the [1:57:00] results [1:57:00] of [1:57:01] the [1:57:01] 2024 [1:57:02] sws [1:57:04] survey [1:57:04] being [1:57:05] referred [1:57:05] to [1:57:05] and yes [1:57:06] we [1:57:06] confirm [1:57:07] that [1:57:07] more [1:57:08] than [1:57:08] 70% [1:57:09] if [1:57:10] we're [1:57:10] looking [1:57:10] at [1:57:10] the [1:57:10] net [1:57:11] approval [1:57:11] but [1:57:12] 84% [1:57:14] if [1:57:15] only [1:57:15] approved [1:57:15] was [1:57:16] the [1:57:16] result [1:57:17] of [1:57:17] the [1:57:17] nationwide [1:57:17] survey [1:57:18] in [1:57:18] favor [1:57:19] of [1:57:19] nuclear [1:57:20] mr [1:57:20] chair [1:57:21] kasi [1:57:21] po [1:57:21] i [1:57:22] was [1:57:22] able [1:57:22] to [1:57:23] do [1:57:23] my [1:57:23] own [1:57:23] research [1:57:24] din [1:57:24] several [1:57:25] weeks [1:57:26] ago [1:57:26] yung [1:57:27] church [1:57:27] po [1:57:28] ilang [1:57:28] churches [1:57:28] po [1:57:28] particularly [1:57:29] in [1:57:29] Pangasinan 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ang [1:58:05] Santo [1:58:06] Papa [1:58:06] mismo [1:58:07] noong [1:58:08] a week [1:58:09] ago [1:58:09] ay [1:58:10] nagpahayag [1:58:11] na [1:58:12] nuclear [1:58:12] technology [1:58:13] needs [1:58:14] to be [1:58:14] used [1:58:15] for [1:58:15] peaceful [1:58:16] means [1:58:17] meaning [1:58:18] hindi po [1:58:19] siya [1:58:19] tutol [1:58:20] sa [1:58:20] nuclear [1:58:21] technology [1:58:22] basta [1:58:23] gamitin [1:58:23] po [1:58:24] sa [1:58:24] peaceful [1:58:24] means [1:58:25] hindi [1:58:25] lang [1:58:25] po [1:58:26] para [1:58:26] sa [1:58:27] digmaan [1:58:28] so [1:58:29] I [1:58:30] don't [1:58:30] know [1:58:31] where [1:58:31] the [1:58:31] local [1:58:32] bishops [1:58:33] are [1:58:33] getting [1:58:34] the [1:58:34] idea [1:58:34] that [1:58:35] the [1:58:35] Catholic [1:58:36] Church [1:58:36] is [1:58:37] against [1:58:37] nuclear [1:58:38] power [1:58:38] hindi [1:58:39] po [1:58:39] impact [1:58:41] pabor [1:58:41] ang [1:58:42] Catholic [1:58:43] 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