Sen. Robin Padilla, Atty. Baligod, alleged Zaldy Co bagmen hold briefing — June 8, 2026

[0:00] I want to clarify the invitations that we have received. [0:04] After the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee hearing on June 4, [0:13] around 2.30 p.m., [0:16] I received a invitation at 8.00 p.m. [0:21] We called it again to the Senado on a Sunday. [0:26] I have a problem because after the June 4 hearing, [0:32] I have to go to the other side of the province and the other side of the Sundalo [0:35] and I have to go to Walter Manalansan [0:40] for his wife at his wife at June 4, [0:46] June 4, 2026. [0:47] I have to go to the Senate by Sen. Cayetano [0:51] no day, no gabing yun. [0:54] So makikita din nyo dito ang in-email ko na sulat, [0:58] June 4 din ang petsa, [1:00] humihingi ng guidance kay Sen. President Alan Cayetano. [1:05] At bakit ko po in-address kay Sen. President Alan Cayetano [1:08] ang aking sulat? [1:11] Despite the fact that some Senators are claiming [1:13] he is no longer the Sen. President, [1:16] I have here a video just two days ago [1:19] na sinasabi ni Sen. Erwin Tulfo [1:22] na ang Sen. President pa rin ay si Alan Cayetano. [1:26] At pwede ko pong ipakita sa inyo [1:28] yung kanyang video [1:30] na sinasabi nga na si [1:32] Sen. Alan Cayetano pa rin [1:34] ang Presidente. [1:35] Kaya ko po in-address sa kanya [1:38] ang aking... [1:39] Sen. Cayetano is still the Sen. [1:41] Ay, sorry po ha. [1:44] Sen. Cayetano is still the Sen. President. [1:48] Because without that, it's against the law naman. [1:50] The law says... [1:59] Dahil po sa pahayag din ni Sen. Erwin Tulfo na yan [2:05] na si Sen. President Alan Cayetano pa rin [2:08] ang Sen. President. [2:10] So I address my letter to Sen. Alan Cayetano. [2:15] At sumagot naman po si Sen. Cayetano noong Sabado. [2:18] At ang sabi niya rito, [2:21] if I may read for your convenience [2:26] the pertinent portion of the letter. [2:28] Ang sabi po niya sa second paragraph. [2:30] So we must clarify however [2:32] that the hearing [2:33] purportedly set [2:35] for 08 June 2026 [2:38] was not authorized by this office [2:41] by Sen. Pia Cayetano [2:43] as committee person, [2:45] chairperson [2:45] or by Sen. Rodante Marcoleta. [2:49] So bakit ko po minarapat [2:52] na magpunta rito [2:53] para saan natanungin kay Sen. Cayetano [2:56] itong sulat niya. [2:57] Dahil makikita po din nyo, [3:02] hindi rin po itong rules [3:04] ni Sen. Robin, [3:07] ipapakita ko po sa inyo [3:08] yung Section 17 [3:10] ng Senate Resolution No. 5 [3:13] which was approved [3:15] on August 9, 2010. [3:20] At ang sinasabi dito, [3:22] any invitation [3:23] for a witness [3:24] or any sabpina [3:26] should be signed [3:28] by the chairman [3:30] of the committee [3:30] and approved [3:32] by the president [3:33] of the Senate. [3:35] Maliwanag po dito [3:36] sa Section 17. [3:38] Kaya po, [3:38] tinignan ko itong [3:39] imbitasyon. [3:41] Makikita ninyo rito, [3:43] wala pong [3:44] pirma yung [3:46] nagsasabi na siya [3:47] yung chairman [3:48] ng Blue Ribbon Committee. [3:50] Wala rin [3:50] pirma yung Senate [3:52] President. [3:53] Walang approval. [3:53] Kaya dyan po kami [3:55] naguguluhan. [3:56] At bakit ko po [3:58] nire-raise ito? [4:00] Dahil naman po sa [4:01] for our safety [4:04] and security. [4:06] And we are expecting [4:07] the good senators [4:10] to follow their own rules. [4:13] Itong sinasight ko po [4:14] na Senate Resolution No. 5 [4:16] provides for the rules [4:18] governing inquiries [4:20] in aid of legislation. [4:22] Ito po yung [4:23] Resolution No. 5. [4:25] Okay? [4:26] So, [4:28] sana naman po [4:28] ay sinunod [4:29] ng sumulat sa amin [4:32] yung sinasaad [4:34] ng rules [4:35] ng Senate. [4:36] Kaya po kami [4:37] nagpunta rito [4:38] kay Senator Robin [4:39] para [4:40] mapaliwanagan din kami. [4:44] Pangalawa po, [4:49] sa totoo lamang [4:49] ay [4:50] we are worried [4:52] but we are not scared [4:54] that [4:55] Mr. Erwin Tulfo [4:58] who claims to be [4:59] the new chairman [5:00] of the Senate [5:01] Blue Ribbon Committee [5:02] is presiding [5:03] over this investigation. [5:05] kasi po, [5:08] inaakusahan siya [5:09] pero siya rin [5:11] ang mag-iimbestiga [5:12] at eventually [5:14] siya rin [5:14] ang magde-desisyon. [5:17] He is the accused [5:18] or respondent [5:19] so to speak [5:20] but he is the [5:21] investigator [5:22] and the judge [5:23] rolled into one. [5:24] Sa isang demokrasya po [5:26] na merong [5:28] functioning [5:29] judicial system [5:30] ay hindi nyo po [5:31] makikita [5:32] yung kanyang [5:32] pangyayari [5:33] na kung sino pa [5:35] yung akusado [5:36] siya pa [5:36] ang mag-iimbestiga [5:38] at siya pa [5:38] ang magde-desisyon [5:39] kung sino [5:40] ang nagsisinungaling [5:42] at kung sino [5:43] ang nagsasabi [5:44] ng totoo. [5:45] And of course [5:46] by human nature [5:46] we don't expect [5:47] Mr. Erwin Tulfo [5:50] to admit [5:51] his guilt [5:51] and therefore [5:53] by human nature [5:54] also [5:54] it is predictable [5:56] that he will [5:57] cite all of us [5:58] as liars [5:59] and pursuant [6:02] to his power [6:03] as chairman [6:03] of the committee [6:04] and that is [6:07] debatable [6:07] he can cite us [6:09] in content [6:09] he can punish us [6:11] and he can send us [6:12] to jail. [6:13] And for this [6:14] purposes po [6:15] I will cite to you [6:16] section 18 po [6:19] of the same [6:20] Senate Resolution [6:21] number 5 [6:22] nakalagay po dito [6:24] 18 [6:25] contempt [6:26] contempt [6:28] makikita nyo dito [6:29] ang sinasabi [6:31] ito [6:37] babasahin ko po [6:38] the chairman [6:41] with the concurrence [6:43] of at least one member [6:45] may punish [6:47] or cite in contempt [6:48] any witness [6:49] before the committee [6:50] who disobeys [6:52] any order of the committee [6:53] or refuses [6:54] to be sworn [6:54] or to testify [6:56] or to answer [6:57] a proper question [6:58] by the committee [6:59] or any of its members [7:01] or [7:01] testifying [7:03] testifies [7:04] falsely [7:06] or evasively [7:06] sa tingin nyo ba [7:09] sasabihin ni [7:10] Mr. Erwin Tulfo [7:11] that we are [7:12] testifying [7:14] truthfully [7:14] sasabihin nyo yan [7:17] you are testifying [7:18] falsely [7:19] and what is the [7:21] consequence of that [7:21] contempt [7:22] and once you are [7:24] contempt [7:24] I cited in contempt [7:26] ito [7:27] po na ito [7:28] ay in-amend [7:30] ng Senate [7:30] we have [7:31] resolution [7:32] number 145 [7:33] Senate resolution [7:34] number 145 [7:36] ang matindi po eh [7:38] ikukulong kami [7:39] ito [7:43] a contempt [7:51] of the committee [7:53] shall be deemed [7:54] a contempt [7:55] of the Senate [7:55] such witness [7:57] may be ordered [7:59] by the committee [7:59] to be detained [8:01] in such place [8:04] as it may designate [8:06] pwede nila kaming [8:08] ipadala [8:09] sa Pasay City J [8:10] that is the danger [8:15] no [8:15] a few [8:16] a few [8:18] give me a few [8:19] minutes na lang [8:20] so yun po ang [8:21] having said all of those [8:24] this is [8:24] our humble request [8:26] to the members [8:28] and leadership [8:28] of the Senate [8:29] of the Republic [8:30] of the Philippines [8:30] first message [8:33] we should observe [8:35] rule of law [8:36] we should observe [8:38] your own [8:39] Senate rules [8:41] if [8:42] you do not [8:43] follow your own rules [8:45] how can you expect [8:47] us [8:47] non-senators [8:49] to obey your rules [8:51] second [8:52] we humbly ask [8:54] we respectfully ask [8:55] the members [8:57] and the leadership [8:57] of the Senate [8:58] of the Republic [8:59] of the Philippines [8:59] to observe [9:04] statesmanship [9:05] not brinkmanship [9:07] we observe [9:10] delicadeza [9:11] delicadeza [9:14] is addressed [9:15] to the [9:16] senses [9:16] of the senators [9:18] who were named [9:20] in the affidavit [9:21] of the 18 [9:22] former soldiers [9:23] hindi po po pwede [9:26] sa isang demokrasya [9:27] na kung sino pa [9:28] yung inaakusahan [9:30] ay siya pa [9:31] ang mag-iimbestiga [9:32] at siya ang magde-desisyon [9:34] kung sino [9:34] ang nagsasabi [9:35] ng totoo [9:36] o hindi [9:37] ito na lamang po [9:39] ang panghuli [9:39] na mensahe ko [9:41] sa ngayon naman [9:42] ay kay [9:43] Senator Robin Padilla [9:44] na isang membro [9:45] na isang membro [9:45] ng Blue Ribbon [9:47] Committee [9:47] na pinamumunuan [9:49] ni Senator Pia [9:50] Cayetano [9:51] at ang subcommittee [9:53] chairman [9:53] ng si Senator [9:54] Redante [9:55] Marcoleta [9:56] na hinanap po [9:57] namin sila [9:58] ay wala sila [9:59] ngayon [9:59] kaya bilang membro [10:01] ng Blue Ribbon [10:01] sa kanya ko [10:02] ihahatid [10:03] ang ating mensahe [10:05] magsusumiti po kami [10:07] kay Senator Robin Padilla [10:09] ng pangalan [10:12] ng 14 [10:12] na mga [10:14] dating [10:15] Marines [10:16] at dating [10:18] empleyado rin [10:19] ni Ginoong Zaldico [10:20] na nagtrabaho [10:22] at natawag ding [10:23] basurero [10:24] na nagde-deliver [10:25] din ng pera [10:26] sa iba't-ibang [10:28] mga [10:28] personalidad [10:30] at ang pangalan [10:32] ng 14 na ito [10:33] ay isusumiti ko [10:34] kay Senator [10:36] Robin Padilla [10:37] at siya na po [10:38] ang bahalang [10:39] mag-submit [10:40] sa kanyang committee [10:41] at itong 14 po [10:45] na ito [10:45] ay [10:46] handa silang [10:49] tumalima [10:50] sa anumang [10:52] subpina [10:53] o invitasyon po [10:54] na manggagaling [10:55] sa Senado [10:55] para magbigay din [10:58] ng kanilang nalalaman [10:59] tungkol sa [11:00] pagde-deliver [11:01] ng mga maleta na ito [11:02] so [11:04] nailabas na po namin [11:05] ang 18 [11:05] ipapa-imbitan namin [11:08] ang 14 pa [11:09] at [11:10] kung hindi pa po [11:11] kayo contento [11:12] ay meron pa pong [11:14] pito [11:14] na handang [11:16] mag-testigo rin [11:17] ihuhuli ko lamang po [11:19] yung pito [11:20] dahil [11:21] nasa isang [11:22] maselan silang [11:23] kalagayan [11:24] na kung [11:25] sa tingin ko [11:26] makumbinsi naman [11:27] ang ating [11:27] mga mamamayan [11:28] ay sapat na po yun [11:30] so yan lamang po [11:31] at maraming salamat [11:33] sa inyong lahat [11:33] si Pai [11:35] ngayon [11:35] ag-agriculist press [11:37] po [11:37] pupunta mo ba [11:38] kayo sa inyong [11:38] yes [11:39] sir do you want [11:41] 3-1 center [11:41] urban to inhibit [11:42] by rules of [11:45] decency [11:47] he should [11:49] what would you [11:50] request sir [11:51] sa hearing [11:51] pamaya [11:52] na mag [11:52] imibit siya [11:53] well we will manifest [11:55] what i said [11:56] to you [11:57] earlier [11:57] that [11:58] we should [11:59] observe [12:00] statesmanship [12:01] pangit naman [12:03] yung [12:04] ikaw na yung [12:06] nireklamo [12:07] ikaw pa mag [12:08] investiga [12:09] ikaw pa [12:09] ang maging [12:10] huwes [12:11] you mentioned [12:13] earlier [12:13] you expect [12:14] them to cite [12:15] the witnesses [12:16] in contempt [12:17] sir [12:17] well if you look [12:19] at the rules [12:21] it says there [12:23] that if you [12:23] falsely testify [12:24] you can be [12:25] cited in contempt [12:26] now [12:27] if the [12:28] former soldiers [12:29] will [12:30] affirm [12:31] and confirm [12:32] what they stated [12:33] in their [12:33] affidavit [12:34] what would be [12:36] the response [12:36] of Mr. Erwin [12:39] Tulfo [12:39] and other [12:40] legislators [12:41] similarly [12:42] situated [12:43] sasabihin ba [12:44] niya [12:44] nagsasabi [12:45] kayo [12:46] ng totoo [12:46] hindi po [12:48] ang sasabihin [12:48] niya [12:48] nagsisinungaling [12:49] kayo [12:50] ngayon pa nga [12:51] lang [12:51] hindi pa kami [12:52] nagpakita [12:52] sinabi na [12:54] niya [12:54] na nagsisinungaling [12:55] kayo [12:56] at kung [12:56] sinabi niyang [12:57] nagsisinungaling [12:58] kami [12:58] ano po [12:59] ang consequence [12:59] niyon [13:00] binasa po [13:01] po sa inyo [13:01] ang section [13:02] 18 [13:03] ng [13:04] Senate [13:04] Resolution [13:05] Number 5 [13:06] as amended [13:07] by Senate [13:07] Resolution [13:08] Number 145 [13:10] dated [13:11] February 13 [13:12] 2013 [13:13] so wala kaming [13:15] ibang patutunguhan [13:16] kundi kulong po eh [13:17] and that is why [13:19] the logic of our request [13:21] the reason [13:22] the basis [13:23] for our request [13:24] is for him [13:25] to [13:25] recuse himself [13:27] to inhibit [13:28] and let [13:28] those [13:29] who were not [13:30] named [13:30] in the affidavit [13:32] to preside [13:33] over the investigation [13:34] but he can [13:35] participate [13:35] sir [13:36] yes [13:37] we welcome [13:37] yes [13:38] yes [13:38] yes [13:39] and [13:39] sinabi mo [13:42] kasi [13:42] si senator [13:43] Erwin [13:43] sa maba [13:44] na [13:44] pinatatamay po [13:46] sa inyo [13:46] kung sasamahan [13:47] nito [13:48] ang [13:48] naging [13:48] mga [13:49] naging [13:49] mga [13:49] bisita [13:53] yun [13:54] ang [13:54] mangyayari [13:55] pero [13:55] hindi ako [13:56] uupo [13:56] dun [13:56] sa [13:56] consultative [13:57] nito [13:57] po [13:58] ulang [13:59] ako [13:59] sa [13:59] tabi [13:59] nito [13:59] dahil [14:00] po [14:00] we [14:00] will [14:01] not [14:01] oblige [14:02] senator [14:04] padilla [14:05] to [14:05] accompany [14:06] us [14:07] we [14:07] can [14:07] go [14:07] there [14:07] on [14:08] our [14:08] own [14:08] i [14:10] want [14:11] to [14:11] impress [14:11] upon [14:12] you [14:12] dear [14:13] media [14:14] members [14:14] that [14:15] we [14:16] are [14:16] acting [14:16] on [14:16] our [14:16] own [14:17] we [14:17] are [14:17] not [14:17] upon [14:18] the [14:18] dictates [14:18] of [14:19] anyone [14:19] and [14:20] let [14:20] me [14:21] respond [14:21] to [14:22] three [14:23] serious [14:24] allegations [14:24] coming [14:25] from [14:25] so [14:26] called [14:27] high [14:28] government [14:29] officials [14:29] number [14:29] one [14:30] sinabi [14:31] ni [14:31] NBI [14:32] director [14:33] Matibag [14:34] doon [14:34] na [14:35] peke [14:35] daw [14:36] ang [14:36] mga [14:36] ito [14:37] hindi [14:37] raw [14:37] sila [14:38] dating [14:38] mga [14:38] sundalo [14:39] okay [14:40] yun [14:40] ang [14:40] allegation [14:41] niya [14:41] ngayon [14:41] pero [14:42] hindi [14:43] ba [14:44] stop [14:44] ang [14:44] grupo [14:45] niya [14:46] eto [14:47] basahin [14:47] ko [14:47] yung [14:48] natanggap [14:49] kong [14:49] investigasyon [14:50] nakalagay [14:50] dito [14:51] we [14:52] invite [14:53] attorney [14:53] baligod [14:54] and [14:54] the [14:54] former [14:55] enlisted [14:56] personnel [14:57] of the [14:58] Philippine [14:58] military [14:59] eto [15:01] yung [15:01] grupo [15:02] mismo [15:02] ni [15:02] Mr. [15:03] Erwin [15:03] Tulfo [15:04] nagsasabi [15:04] na [15:05] that [15:06] they [15:06] are [15:06] former [15:07] enlisted [15:07] personnel [15:08] of the [15:09] armed forces [15:10] of the [15:10] Philippines [15:11] at [15:12] klaro pa [15:12] dito [15:12] from [15:14] number [15:14] 1 [15:14] to [15:15] number [15:15] 18 [15:15] nakalagay [15:16] dyan [15:16] former [15:17] Marines [15:17] pero [15:17] yung [15:18] number [15:18] 6 [15:19] sinabi [15:19] Rene [15:20] Boy [15:20] Julian [15:21] Reservis [15:21] Philippine [15:22] Army [15:22] yan po [15:23] ang [15:23] sinabi [15:24] namin [15:24] sa [15:24] affidavit [15:25] nila [15:25] sa [15:26] number [15:26] 13 [15:27] nakalagay [15:28] dito [15:28] Romel [15:28] C. [15:29] Galapon [15:29] Philippine [15:30] Army [15:30] yan din [15:31] po [15:31] ang [15:31] sinabi [15:32] namin [15:32] sa [15:32] affidavit [15:33] nila [15:33] number [15:35] 2 [15:35] kung [15:37] peke [15:38] kami [15:38] ano [15:39] ang [15:40] resulta [15:40] ng [15:41] dalawang [15:42] pagkakataon [15:43] na [15:43] tinawag [15:43] kami [15:44] ng [15:44] NBI [15:45] sa [15:45] National [15:46] Bureau [15:46] of [15:47] Investigation [15:48] na [15:48] ang [15:48] purpose [15:49] nila [15:49] was [15:50] to [15:51] conduct [15:51] an [15:52] identity [15:52] verification [15:53] of [15:54] the [15:54] 18 [15:54] former [15:55] soldiers [15:56] at [15:57] dalawang [15:57] beses [15:58] nilang [15:58] prove [15:59] na [15:59] totoo [16:00] yung [16:00] sinasabi [16:01] na [16:01] 16 [16:02] ang [16:02] dating [16:02] Marines [16:03] dalawa [16:04] naman [16:05] ang [16:05] dating [16:05] Army [16:06] Pangatlo [16:08] bakit [16:09] niya [16:10] namang [16:10] sasabihin [16:11] na [16:11] nagsisinungaling [16:12] ang mga [16:12] ito [16:14] e siya [16:15] mismo [16:15] nagsumite [16:17] siya [16:17] ng [16:18] affidavit [16:18] ng mga [16:19] sundalo [16:19] sa [16:19] ombudsman [16:20] at yung [16:22] panel [16:23] of [16:24] investigators [16:24] ng [16:25] ombudsman [16:25] na [16:26] pinapangunahan [16:27] ni [16:28] retired [16:29] general [16:30] and [16:30] attorney [16:31] Eliseo [16:31] Cruz [16:32] ng [16:33] ombudsman [16:33] e [16:35] binanggit [16:36] nila [16:36] yung [16:36] affidavit [16:37] ng [16:37] dalawang [16:37] dating [16:38] sundalo [16:39] doon [16:40] sa [16:40] fact [16:41] finding [16:42] nila [16:42] against [16:43] former [16:43] speaker [16:44] Martin [16:44] Romualdez [16:45] former [16:46] congressman [16:47] Saldico [16:47] at [16:49] a certain [16:50] attorney [16:51] Raulito [16:52] Paras [16:52] nandun [16:53] po sa [16:54] report [16:54] ng [16:54] panel [16:55] of [16:56] investigators [16:56] ng [16:57] ombudsman [16:59] e [16:59] anim [16:59] po yun [17:00] ng mga [17:00] abogado [17:01] ng [17:01] ombudsman [17:01] so [17:02] sino [17:03] po [17:03] ang [17:03] nagsisinungaling [17:04] noon [17:05] pa [17:06] ay [17:06] sinasabi [17:06] ko [17:07] si [17:08] Matibag [17:09] ay [17:10] isang [17:10] political [17:10] operator [17:11] hindi po [17:12] yan [17:12] investigator [17:13] at [17:15] ang ginagawa [17:15] niya [17:16] ngayon [17:16] ay [17:17] pinupolitika [17:18] niya [17:18] hinahatak [17:19] niya [17:20] ang [17:20] National Bureau [17:21] of [17:21] Investigation [17:22] sa isang [17:23] political [17:23] exercise [17:24] sana [17:26] hindi [17:26] masira [17:27] ang [17:27] NBI [17:27] as an [17:28] institution [17:28] pangalawa [17:30] narinig [17:32] narinig [17:32] namin [17:32] kanina [17:33] nagmamonitor [17:34] ako [17:34] na [17:34] ang [17:35] sabi [17:35] ni [17:36] Sen. [17:37] Erwin [17:37] Tulfo [17:38] ay bogus [17:38] daw [17:39] ang mga [17:39] ito [17:40] e [17:41] kung bogus [17:42] ang mga [17:42] ito [17:42] e [17:43] bagit [17:43] po siya [17:43] nagpadala [17:44] at [17:44] sinabi [17:45] na [17:46] former [17:46] enlisted [17:47] personnel [17:47] ng [17:48] Armed Forces [17:48] of the [17:49] Philippines [17:49] ang mga [17:50] ito [17:50] I [17:53] think [17:54] there is [17:54] duplicity [17:55] in the [17:56] words [17:57] of [17:57] or [17:58] coming [17:58] from [17:58] the [17:59] mouth [17:59] of [17:59] Mr. [18:00] Erwin [18:00] Tulfo [18:01] Ator, [18:02] hindi na yung [18:02] masasabi niyo [18:03] dun sa [18:03] binabanggit [18:04] ng NBI [18:05] na may [18:05] inconsistencies [18:06] dun sa [18:06] naging testimony [18:10] ng [18:10] asasinado [18:11] ng [18:11] Webers [18:11] Naku po [18:12] sabi ko [18:13] nga [18:13] sabihin niya [18:15] yung [18:15] inconsistencies [18:16] and [18:17] by the [18:18] way [18:18] Harimawa [18:19] sir [18:19] yung [18:19] pinabanggit [18:20] nila [18:20] nakalagay [18:21] dun sa [18:21] original [18:21] na [18:22] affidavit [18:22] ng [18:22] 18 [18:23] na [18:24] may [18:24] mga [18:25] polis [18:25] na [18:25] namburiki [18:26] dun sa [18:26] Maleta [18:28] pero [18:28] dun sa [18:28] Ong [18:28] Guzman [18:29] nakalagay [18:29] na lang [18:29] alam [18:34] nyo [18:34] ganito [18:35] ang [18:36] pagbasihan [18:36] po ninyo [18:37] sana [18:37] ay yung [18:38] pirmado [18:39] at [18:39] notaryado [18:40] na [18:40] affidavit [18:41] ng [18:41] mga [18:41] ito [18:42] kasi [18:42] may [18:43] mga [18:44] kumalat [18:45] na may [18:45] mga [18:45] nagdagdag [18:46] o may [18:47] nagbago [18:47] at [18:48] ibidibintang [18:49] nila [18:49] sa amin [18:49] yun [18:49] eh [18:51] dapat [18:51] nga [18:51] makasuhan [18:52] yan [18:52] si [18:52] Matibag [18:52] kung saan [18:53] niya [18:53] kinuha [18:53] yung [18:54] peke [18:54] na [18:54] affidavit [18:55] na [18:56] yan [18:56] eh [18:56] he relies [18:59] on a [19:00] fake [19:00] document [19:00] and puts [19:01] the blame [19:02] on us [19:02] anong [19:03] klaseng [19:03] investigador [19:04] yan [19:04] nevertheless [19:05] as I said [19:06] earlier [19:07] no less [19:08] than the [19:08] panel of [19:09] investigators [19:09] of the [19:10] office [19:10] of the [19:10] ombudsman [19:11] lent [19:12] credits [19:13] to the [19:14] allegations [19:15] of the [19:15] 18 [19:16] Marines [19:16] sir [19:16] ho ba [19:17] names [19:17] nakasama [19:18] daw po [19:18] sa [19:18] senator [19:18] dora [19:19] de [19:19] gara [19:19] din [19:19] sa [19:19] affidavit [19:20] eh [19:25] dapat [19:26] sana [19:26] kasi [19:26] nag [19:27] attend [19:27] sila [19:28] nung [19:28] senate [19:28] blue [19:29] ribbon [19:29] committee [19:30] hearing [19:30] para [19:31] sila [19:31] ang [19:31] nagtanong [19:33] eh [19:33] ba't [19:34] nila [19:34] kami [19:35] pagbibintangan [19:36] kung wala [19:36] namang [19:37] nagtanong [19:39] di ba [19:39] pero [19:39] nandun [19:40] din sa [19:40] affidavit [19:40] sir [19:41] nandun [19:41] po [19:41] sa [19:41] affidavit [19:42] eh [19:42] magdeliver [19:43] din po [19:43] kay [19:43] sa [19:43] dora [19:44] at [19:44] let me [19:53] clear this [19:54] out [19:54] with you [19:55] now [19:55] noong [19:56] in-interview [19:58] ako [19:58] sa [19:59] I think [20:00] it's [20:01] the group [20:02] of [20:02] Edling [20:02] Gaw [20:03] merong [20:05] babae [20:05] dun [20:05] na [20:06] she [20:07] was [20:07] not [20:08] interviewing [20:08] but [20:09] rather [20:10] anyway [20:12] ang [20:15] sabi [20:15] sa akin [20:15] attorney [20:16] bakit [20:17] nasama [20:17] si Laila [20:18] Delima [20:18] sa listahan [20:20] ng mga [20:20] congress [20:21] members [20:21] na hindi [20:22] naman [20:22] siya [20:22] membro [20:23] ng [20:23] kongreso [20:24] noon [20:24] at [20:26] pinapalabas [20:26] nila [20:26] ngayon [20:27] eh [20:27] nasa [20:28] kulungan [20:28] pa raw [20:28] si [20:29] Laila [20:29] Delima [20:30] noon [20:30] paano [20:30] siya [20:31] makatanggap [20:31] at [20:33] dahil [20:34] po [20:34] dun [20:34] sa [20:35] pagtatanong [20:35] ang sabi [20:36] ko [20:36] ay [20:36] ang [20:37] nabanggit [20:38] kasi [20:38] ng mga [20:39] dating [20:39] sundalo [20:41] ay [20:42] congresswoman [20:44] Laila [20:44] Delima [20:44] at [20:45] ang [20:45] explanation [20:46] nila [20:46] sa akin [20:47] ay [20:47] sir [20:47] nung [20:48] ginagawa [20:49] kasi [20:49] natin [20:49] itong [20:49] affidavit [20:50] bandang [20:51] February [20:51] ay [20:53] congresswoman [20:53] na si [20:54] Laila [20:54] Delima [20:54] and [20:55] out of [20:55] respect [20:56] we [20:56] addressed [20:57] her [20:57] as [20:57] congresswoman [20:58] Laila [20:58] Delima [20:59] at [21:00] ako [21:00] naman [21:00] ay [21:01] isinama [21:01] ko [21:02] nga [21:02] siya [21:02] doon [21:03] sa listahan [21:04] ng mga [21:04] congress [21:04] members [21:05] but [21:06] that [21:06] is [21:06] a [21:07] peripheral [21:08] issue [21:08] the [21:09] central [21:09] issue [21:10] is [21:10] did [21:11] she [21:11] receive [21:12] or [21:12] not [21:13] and [21:14] minemaintain [21:15] po [21:15] sila [21:16] minemaintain [21:16] nila [21:17] na [21:17] nakatanggap [21:18] sila [21:18] how about [21:19] sila [21:19] senator [21:20] lauren [21:20] and [21:21] senator [21:21] mark [21:22] lear [21:22] okay [21:24] ganun [21:25] po [21:25] no [21:25] noong [21:27] in-interview [21:29] ako [21:29] nila [21:29] edling [21:30] gaw [21:30] sometime [21:31] first week [21:32] of [21:32] march [21:32] yan [21:32] so [21:33] pinatawag [21:34] ko [21:34] sila [21:35] lahat [21:35] sabi ko [21:36] klaruhin [21:36] nga [21:36] natin [21:37] ito [21:37] bakit [21:38] nyo [21:38] nasabing [21:38] congresswoman [21:39] Laila [21:39] Delima [21:40] so [21:40] in-explain [21:41] nila [21:41] at [21:42] dahil [21:43] hindi [21:43] ako [21:43] na [21:43] contento [21:44] pwede [21:44] bang [21:44] isa-isahin [21:45] natin [21:46] ang [21:46] bawat [21:47] pangalan [21:47] na [21:47] binanggit [21:48] ninyo [21:48] so [21:49] ilang araw [21:50] po kaming [21:51] nag-review [21:54] sabi nyo [21:55] ikaw [21:56] Tube [21:56] sabi nyo [21:58] ganito [21:58] i-confirm [22:00] nyo sa akin [22:00] so [22:01] mahabang [22:01] proseso [22:02] meron pong [22:03] at ito [22:06] with all [22:07] sincerity [22:07] we [22:08] are [22:09] man [22:10] enough [22:11] to [22:11] admit [22:12] a mistake [22:13] and [22:13] brave [22:13] enough [22:14] to [22:14] correct it [22:15] doon [22:17] po [22:17] kay [22:17] senator [22:18] Villar [22:19] sabi nyo [22:19] wala pong [22:20] pinabago [22:21] doon [22:22] as is [22:22] po yan [22:22] kay [22:23] senator [22:24] cheese [22:24] escudero [22:25] kasi [22:26] siya [22:26] yung [22:27] minority [22:27] yata [22:27] noon [22:28] si [22:29] mark [22:29] si [22:29] senator [22:30] loren [22:30] magkakasama [22:31] sa [22:31] majority [22:32] magkakasama [22:32] sila [22:33] tulfo [22:34] noon [22:34] tinanong [22:35] ko [22:35] kay [22:36] cheese [22:36] escudero [22:37] so [22:38] ang [22:39] nangyari [22:39] po [22:40] ay [22:40] sir [22:40] meron [22:41] pa [22:41] kaming [22:41] hindi [22:42] na [22:42] ibigay [22:42] sa [22:42] iyo [22:43] na [22:43] picture [22:43] so [22:44] nagbigay [22:45] sila [22:45] ng [22:45] mga [22:45] pictures [22:46] na [22:47] doon [22:48] mismo [22:48] sa [22:49] bahay [22:49] ni [22:49] senator [22:50] cheese [22:51] so [22:52] remember [22:53] this [22:53] happened [22:54] in [22:54] march [22:55] yung [22:55] pagreview [22:56] namin [22:56] 2026 [22:59] majority [23:03] pa yata [23:03] si [23:03] senator [23:04] loren [23:04] noon [23:05] pati [23:07] si [23:07] mark [23:07] villar [23:07] etc [23:08] ngayon [23:09] pagdating [23:09] kay [23:10] senator [23:10] mark [23:11] villar [23:12] sabi [23:12] ko [23:12] iklaro [23:13] nyo [23:13] yan [23:13] so [23:15] nag [23:16] recollect [23:17] yung [23:17] mga [23:17] nagsasabi [23:18] at sir [23:20] ganito [23:20] so [23:21] confirm [23:21] po [23:22] at [23:23] pagdating [23:23] naman [23:24] kay [23:24] maraming [23:25] proseso [23:26] yan [23:26] pagdating [23:27] kay [23:27] senator [23:27] loren [23:28] nagusap [23:30] sila [23:30] same [23:31] process [23:31] so [23:33] meron [23:34] si [23:35] orbilio [23:36] at [23:36] saka [23:36] si [23:37] galapon [23:43] sir [23:45] ito [23:51] po yung [23:51] recollection [23:53] namin [23:53] sa nangyari [23:54] kay [23:54] senator [23:55] loren [23:55] pagdating [23:58] ng [23:58] convoy [23:59] namin [23:59] doon [24:00] and this [24:00] I distinctly [24:01] remember [24:01] and as I [24:02] said [24:02] I already [24:04] rectified [24:04] it [24:05] pagdating [24:07] namin [24:07] doon [24:08] unang [24:09] sasakyan [24:10] yung [24:10] sasakyan [24:11] ni [24:11] Saldico [24:12] sabi nila [24:13] back up [24:13] kami [24:14] pag hinto [24:16] namin [24:17] sa gate [24:17] nung [24:18] number [24:19] 40 [24:20] Cambridge [24:20] street [24:21] maalala [24:22] pa namin [24:23] yung gate [24:23] ay gawa [24:24] ng kahoy [24:25] sabi nila [24:25] eh [24:25] gawa [24:26] ng kahoy [24:27] pag hinto [24:30] ng sasakyan [24:31] ni Saldico [24:31] sa tapat [24:32] ng gate [24:32] pag baba [24:34] niya [24:34] sa sasakyan [24:35] ay [24:35] nagbukas [24:36] yung [24:36] gate [24:36] pumasok [24:37] ka agad [24:38] si Saldico [24:38] doon [24:39] tapos [24:40] nagsara [24:40] din [24:41] so sabi [24:42] sir [24:42] ang ibang [24:44] nakapasok [24:44] sa amin [24:45] maski [24:46] si Mark [24:46] Tiksay [24:47] hindi [24:47] kaya [25:04] nila [25:05] kay [25:05] Mark [25:07] Tiksay [25:07] and then [25:09] maya [25:09] maya [25:09] maya [25:09] lamang [25:10] sir [25:10] ay [25:10] napansin [25:11] namin [25:11] lumabas [25:11] na si [25:13] Boss [25:13] Saldico [25:14] sumakay [25:15] na sa [25:15] sasakyan [25:16] at [25:17] umalis [25:18] na kami [25:18] so [25:20] ang [25:20] maalala [25:20] namin [25:20] sir [25:21] with [25:21] your [25:21] respect [25:21] pasensya [25:22] na [25:22] sabi [25:23] wala [25:24] kaming [25:24] nakitang [25:25] maleta [25:25] na [25:25] nakapasok [25:26] doon [25:26] sa gate [25:27] binaba [25:29] namin [25:29] ay [25:29] biglang [25:30] lumabas [25:31] din [25:31] si [25:31] Saldico [25:32] so [25:33] sabi ko [25:33] sigurado [25:34] kayo [25:34] yes [25:35] gumawa [25:36] kayo [25:36] ng [25:36] statement [25:38] na ganyan [25:39] so [25:40] ang ginawa [25:41] ko po [25:41] noong [25:41] March [25:42] ay [25:42] pinapirma [25:43] ko po [25:43] sila [25:44] at [25:44] dahil [25:45] hindi [25:45] ko [25:45] naman [25:45] kilala [25:46] o [25:46] wala [25:46] naman [25:47] akong [25:47] akses [25:48] kay [25:48] Senator [25:48] Loren [25:49] pinakiisapan [25:50] ko [25:50] si [25:51] Mike [25:51] Defensor [25:52] Sek [25:54] Mike [25:54] may [25:55] akses [25:56] ka ba [25:56] kay [25:56] Senator [25:56] Loren [25:57] bakit [25:59] sabi [25:59] niya [25:59] ganito [26:00] yung [26:00] sinasabi [26:01] ng [26:01] dalawang [26:02] sundalo [26:02] ibinigay [26:03] ko po [26:04] sa kanya [26:04] yung [26:05] sinabi [26:05] ng [26:06] dalawang [26:06] sundalo [26:07] sabi ko [26:08] inaamin [26:08] nila [26:08] pagkakamali [26:09] nila [26:10] kung gusto [26:11] ni [26:11] Senator [26:11] Loren [26:12] nakasuhan [26:12] yung [26:12] dalawa [26:13] ibinibigay [26:14] ko [26:15] ang [26:15] ebidensya [26:15] pwede [26:17] niyang [26:17] kasuhan [26:17] ng [26:18] perjury [26:18] yung [26:19] dalawa [26:19] kung [26:20] gusto [26:20] niya [26:20] pero [26:21] as I [26:21] said [26:22] we [26:23] are [26:23] man [26:24] enough [26:24] to [26:25] admit [26:26] a [26:26] mistake [26:26] and [26:27] brave [26:28] enough [26:28] to [26:28] rectify [26:29] it [26:29] ok [26:34] yung [26:37] napangalanan [26:37] sa [26:38] affidavit [26:38] na yan [26:39] gaya [26:40] ng [26:40] sabi [26:40] namin [26:41] sa [26:41] affidavit [26:41] yun [26:42] lamang [26:43] ang [26:43] naaalala [26:44] nila [26:44] noong [26:45] ginawa [26:46] yung [26:46] affidavit [26:47] na yan [26:47] in fact [26:47] marami [26:48] pa [26:48] kung [26:48] iba [26:49] ang [26:50] sabi [26:51] nga [26:51] sa akin [26:51] sir [26:51] pwede [26:52] mo [26:52] ba [26:52] kaming [26:52] isama [26:53] sa [26:53] senado [26:54] at [26:54] saka [26:55] sa [26:55] house [26:56] of [26:56] representatives [26:56] para [26:58] kung [26:58] mag [26:58] session [26:59] sila [27:00] ay [27:00] mamukhaan [27:01] namin [27:01] kung [27:02] sino [27:02] yung [27:02] nakita [27:03] namin [27:03] na [27:04] hindi [27:04] namin [27:05] maalala [27:05] yung [27:05] mukha [27:06] o [27:06] ang [27:06] pangalan [27:07] bakit [27:08] sir [27:09] kasi [27:09] yung [27:09] napangalanan [27:10] namin [27:10] dyan [27:10] ay [27:11] yun [27:11] lamang [27:11] yung [27:12] mga [27:12] sikat [27:12] nakikita [27:13] namin [27:14] sa [27:14] tv [27:14] sa [27:15] news [27:15] sila [27:16] yung [27:16] popular [27:17] sila [27:17] yung [27:18] palagi [27:18] namin [27:18] nakikita [27:19] kaya [27:19] yan [27:19] ang [27:20] maalala [27:20] namin [27:20] at [27:21] yan [27:21] po [27:21] nandun [27:22] sa [27:22] affidavit [27:22] nila [27:23] sinabi [27:24] po [27:24] nila [27:24] yan [27:24] yun [27:32] nga [27:33] po [27:33] ang [27:33] recollection [27:33] nila [27:34] after [27:34] no [27:34] March [27:35] na [27:36] sir [27:38] naalala [27:38] namin [27:39] pag hinto [27:40] ng [27:40] sasakyan [27:40] bumaba [27:42] si [27:43] boss [27:43] saldi [27:43] bumukas [27:44] na rin [27:44] yung [27:44] gate [27:45] sa [27:47] supposed [27:47] di [27:47] bahay [27:48] po [27:48] ni [27:48] senator [27:48] loren [27:49] hindi [27:49] po [27:50] nila [27:50] nakita [27:50] sa [27:50] senator [27:51] loren [27:51] hindi [27:51] po [27:52] kasi [27:52] po [27:52] ang [27:53] style [27:53] nila [27:53] yan [27:54] may [27:55] everyday [27:55] po [27:56] may [27:56] detail [27:56] yan [27:56] kung [27:57] ano [27:58] yung [27:58] assignment [27:58] nila [27:59] kung [27:59] ano [27:59] yung [27:59] lakad [28:00] so [28:00] pwede [28:01] ko [28:01] ipakita [28:02] sa [28:02] inyo [28:02] nasa [28:02] oras [28:03] na [28:03] ito [28:04] pupunta [28:04] si [28:04] saldi [28:05] ko [28:05] dito [28:05] so [28:06] may [28:06] schedule [28:06] sila [28:07] hindi [28:12] March [28:12] po [28:12] yun [28:13] after [28:14] nung [28:14] interview [28:15] kay [28:18] Ed [28:19] Linggao [28:19] hindi [28:21] pa [28:21] namin [28:21] sir [28:21] yung [28:22] affidavit [28:22] ninyo [28:22] sa [28:22] ombudsman [28:23] hindi [28:24] pa [28:24] namin [28:25] yes [28:26] totoo [28:26] po [28:26] yan [28:26] hindi [28:27] namin [28:27] kaya [28:27] ang sabi ko [28:28] nga [28:29] pakipigay [28:32] ito [28:32] kay [28:32] senator [28:32] Loren [28:33] kako [28:33] kay [28:34] Mike [28:34] Defensor [28:35] para [28:36] kung [28:36] sa tingin [28:37] niya [28:37] agrabyado [28:38] siya [28:38] eh [28:39] ito yung [28:40] pag-amin [28:40] ng dalawa [28:41] kako [28:41] at pwede [28:43] pwede [28:43] niyang [28:43] gamitin [28:43] ito [28:44] to [28:45] hindi [28:49] ko pa [28:49] po [28:49] sinasubmit [28:50] pinabayaan [28:51] ko lang [28:51] muna [28:52] and I [28:53] will [28:53] let [28:53] senator [28:54] Loren [28:54] take [28:55] whatever [28:55] legal [28:56] action [28:56] she [28:57] deems [28:57] proper [28:58] to [28:59] vindicate [29:00] herself [29:00] also [29:01] hindi [29:09] po [29:10] never [29:11] wala akong [29:12] access [29:13] wala akong [29:14] contact [29:15] ang maalala [29:16] ko lang [29:16] after the [29:18] senate [29:18] glory bond [29:19] committee [29:20] last [29:20] June 4 [29:22] ay lumapit [29:23] po siya [29:23] sa mga [29:24] sundalo [29:24] at [29:25] nakipagkamaya [29:26] Sir [29:27] yung case [29:28] ni Mark [29:28] Billard [29:29] siya mismo [29:29] nakatanggap [29:30] doon walang [29:32] correction [29:32] wala po eh [29:33] kung ano yung [29:34] nandun [29:35] kasi pinareview [29:35] ko bawat [29:36] isa po doon [29:37] bawat [29:37] paragraph [29:38] bawat [29:38] pangalan [29:39] na binanggit [29:40] pinaulit [29:41] ko po sa [29:41] kanila [29:41] ulitin [29:42] nyo yan [29:43] sabi ko [29:43] so far [29:45] ang correction [29:45] nila [29:46] number one [29:47] kay [29:48] Laila [29:51] De Lima [29:51] Sir [29:52] sabi niya [29:53] nasabi namin [29:54] congresswoman [29:55] kasi [29:55] out of [29:55] respect [29:56] pero nakatanggap [29:58] siya [29:58] at [29:58] siyempre [30:00] nung nakalabas [30:01] na siya [30:01] sa kulungan [30:02] kasi [30:03] pag may [30:04] meeting [30:05] sa unit [30:05] 8 [30:06] townhouse [30:08] sa [30:08] Perth Park [30:09] at ang [30:11] pinag-uusapan [30:11] ay tungkol [30:12] sa ICC [30:13] dumarating [30:14] po si [30:15] congresswoman [30:16] Laila [30:16] De Lima [30:16] at hindi [30:18] lang naman [30:18] po isang [30:19] beses [30:19] yan [30:19] and as [30:21] I said [30:22] pag lumabas [30:23] po [30:23] pag [30:24] inimbitahan [30:24] ng [30:25] Blue Ribbon [30:25] yung [30:26] 14 [30:26] na [30:27] bagong [30:29] mga [30:29] testigo [30:30] pumamarapatin [30:31] ng Senado [30:32] na [30:32] imbitahan [30:32] sila [30:33] ay magpukwento [30:34] pa po sila [30:35] kung ano [30:35] yung [30:37] nalalaman [30:38] nila [30:38] kasi [30:39] marami [30:41] pong [30:41] detalye [30:44] na [30:44] hindi [30:44] ko [30:45] sinama [30:45] sa [30:45] affidavit [30:46] nila [30:46] bakit [30:47] kasi [30:48] sa akin [30:49] noon [30:49] I [30:50] just [30:50] wanted [30:51] to [30:51] reveal [30:52] enough [30:53] information [30:54] to warrant [30:56] an [30:56] investigation [30:57] at [30:59] pag [31:01] nagkaroon [31:01] ng [31:01] investigation [31:02] sabi ko [31:03] doon [31:03] nyo [31:03] ilalabas [31:04] lahat [31:04] ng gusto [31:05] nyong [31:05] sabihin [31:06] at [31:07] true [31:07] enough [31:08] nakatanggap [31:09] ako ng [31:09] impitasyon [31:10] sa office [31:10] of the [31:11] ombudsman [31:11] mag-uumpisa [31:13] kami sa [31:14] June [31:15] 11 [31:16] iisa-isahin [31:19] po nila [31:19] ang 18 [31:20] i-interviewin sila [31:23] ng mga [31:23] abogado [31:24] ng ombudsman [31:25] yung panel [31:25] of investigators [31:26] at doon po nila [31:28] ibabahagi [31:30] lahat na [31:31] ng informasyon [31:32] na alam nila [31:32] nung senate hearing [31:35] nga sa [31:35] yung blue ribbon [31:36] po na nakaraan [31:37] may mga lumabas [31:38] po doon [31:38] na gusto sana [31:40] naming [31:40] hindi mo na lumabas [31:41] pero [31:42] hindi nila [31:43] naiwasan [31:44] na [31:44] maikwento [31:45] yung iba [31:46] pagka tinawag po sila [31:56] kasi may schedule [31:57] sa [31:58] June 11 [31:59] in the morning [32:00] si Buduan [32:01] sa June 15 [32:03] si Esquivel [32:04] sa June 16 [32:06] si [32:08] isa-isa po yan [32:12] June 11 [32:18] si Buduan [32:18] sa June 15 [32:20] si Taberdo [32:21] sa umaga [32:22] si Tube [32:23] sa hapon [32:24] sa June 16 [32:25] si Esquivel [32:27] sa umaga [32:28] si Nabidad [32:29] sa hapon [32:29] so [32:30] direndiretso na po yan [32:31] hindi po sinabi [32:39] na si senator [32:40] Mark mismo [32:41] pero ang nakita nila [32:42] bumaba sila [32:45] nagbaba ng maleta [32:46] at naipasok [32:47] yata sa game [32:48] yung address na yun [32:51] do you have time [32:57] to wait [32:58] for my answer [32:59] ato [33:00] nakita ba nila [33:01] na [33:01] kumagap na maleta [33:02] si senator [33:03] Mark [33:03] hindi [33:04] sabi nga nila [33:05] hindi nila nakita [33:06] si senator [33:06] Mark [33:07] pero naipasok nila [33:08] yung pera [33:09] sa compound [33:10] sa loob [33:11] sa bahay niya [33:13] ito [33:15] si senator [33:19] Thank you very much.