House Prosecution Panel holds press briefing on VP Sara Duterte's Impeachment Trial

[0:00] For today's proceeding, for the 14th of the day of the MPP trial, [0:05] labang kay Vice President Sara Duterte, [0:08] we're here with the members of our House Prosecutors. [0:11] We're here with the most important points of the day today. [0:17] We're here with our prosecutors, [0:21] Representative Joel Chua from 3rd District of Manila, [0:25] our spokesperson, Representative Zia Alonzo Adyong [0:29] from 1st District of Lanao del Sur, [0:31] isa sa ating mga prosecutor at spokesperson ng team, [0:36] si Atty. Benjamin J. Toulouse Jr. [0:39] Maka po may nais na paunang pananalita ang ating mga guests ngayon [0:44] para po masimulan na ating talakayan. Go ahead po. [0:49] Kanina po ay nagpresenta po ng tatlo na testigo ang mga defense [0:58] at ang inaasahan po natin ay una po nilang isasalang na testigo [1:07] ay yung representante ng BPI or yung officer ng BPI. [1:13] Bagamat kanina rin ay sinabi nila, [1:17] ito'y hindi na nila isasalang. [1:19] Kaya tatlo, dalawa na lamang ang naisalang po nila [1:24] na nag-testify. [1:27] Pero ito naman po mga tinestify [1:29] nung dalawang testigo ay mga maliliit lamang na issue. [1:33] Ang inaantay po namin ngayon [1:36] at patuloy po namin inaantay [1:39] ay yung mga malalaki na issue [1:43] o mga malalaki na aligasyon [1:45] na hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin nasasagot. [1:49] Pagdating po sa mga ebidensya na pinresenta po namin [1:55] mga testigo kung paano po nila ididispute [1:58] yung mga naging salaysay [2:02] ng Executive Director ng AMLAC [2:06] at yung aming testigo na ipinresenta [2:11] yung forensic expert na si Atty. Alex Cabrera. [2:15] So bukod po dito, [2:16] yung mga bank officials at mga insurance [2:22] ay hindi pa rin po nila lahat ito na ididispute. [2:29] So yung po yung inaasahan po natin [2:31] kesa po yung mga maliliit na issue [2:34] na kanila pong hinarap ngayon. [2:35] Very quickly also just to add about [2:40] first supposed to witness [2:42] we recall dapat 16 [2:44] ang naka-list nila for this week [2:46] in fact nila naka-list [2:47] pinasabpina nandito na sila [2:49] but then they decided [2:50] not to dispense with them [2:53] nagtira sila ng BPI witness [2:56] I believe he's a senior vice president of BPI [2:59] so he returned again today [3:01] at we were surprised [3:04] well it's their prerogative [3:06] they decided not to call him anymore [3:09] kanina ang manifestation ni [3:12] atty. James Alley [3:13] is nakita dun sa pina documents [3:17] na ipapa-identify sana dito sa testigo na to [3:20] dun sa merong [3:22] among the documents that he brought to the court [3:24] were something related to this dollar account [3:27] of the vice president [3:30] but unfortunately [3:32] before we had the chance [3:33] to cross-examine the witness [3:35] about this dollar account [3:36] they dispensed [3:38] with this testimony [3:40] so we weren't able to ask him questions [3:42] about that anymore [3:43] so and then [3:45] dun sa two other witnesses [3:46] again to be clear [3:48] we agree [3:49] dun sa [3:49] naging komento [3:52] ni senator judge Migsubiri kanina [3:54] no hinahanap niya [3:55] ang pinag-uusapan dito [3:57] yung 780 million unexplained wealth [3:59] sa nasa na tayo [4:00] but to clarify [4:01] hindi ho kami inamili [4:02] nung witnesses today [4:03] out of yung [4:05] napakadaming items [4:07] dyan sa Cabrera report [4:08] na bumubun itong 780 million [4:11] just to clarify [4:11] sorry [4:12] 817 million at least [4:14] tama [4:15] thank you sir [4:16] ang lumabas [4:17] sila ho namili [4:18] na mag-presenta ng testigo [4:21] pertaining to two [4:22] credit card transactions [4:24] one is yung try to explain [4:27] yung about dun sa [4:28] more than 200,000 [4:29] one restaurant bill [4:30] and 250,000 [4:32] about dun sa purchases [4:34] but we heard [4:35] yung nag-testify ho dun sa first [4:38] to try to explain [4:41] yung naging isang bill [4:43] dito ho sa [4:44] isang restaurant sa japan [4:45] of course he claimed [4:48] na nag-ambagan sila dun [4:49] but when asked [4:50] on cross-examination [4:51] narinig naman natin [4:52] there's also no evidence [4:53] to prove that [4:54] wala ho siya napresenta [4:56] when I was asked [4:57] giving a photo [4:58] whatever to prove it [4:59] that he was even there [5:01] when he was asked [5:02] wala ho siya mapakita [5:03] and dun sa naman dun sa [5:05] pangalawang testigo naman [5:06] na umupo [5:07] yun naman ho [5:10] well he admitted [5:11] na itong gastos na to [5:13] talaga naman [5:14] so he confirmed [5:15] na talagang gastos ho yun [5:17] attorney man [5:17] at hindi naman din ho yan [5:21] para lang dun sa mga bata [5:22] kung magabi nila lahat [5:23] nung kasama nila [5:25] as shown in the picture [5:26] just to highlight [5:29] what the prosecution [5:31] was expecting [5:31] for the defense [5:32] to present today [5:33] is basically [5:34] to substantiate [5:35] or to provide [5:37] explanation [5:37] as to [5:38] how [5:39] the [5:40] how vice president [5:41] and her [5:42] and her husband [5:43] was able [5:45] to amass [5:45] 817 million pesos [5:48] as a product [5:50] of the assessment [5:51] and the [5:52] report [5:53] forensic report [5:53] of attorney cabrera [5:54] but only a very [5:56] minor [5:57] minor part [6:01] of that whole report [6:02] was presented [6:03] in today's [6:04] present [6:05] today's [6:06] trial [6:07] so titign na lang po natin [6:08] what we are expecting [6:11] for the defense [6:12] to explain [6:13] the 817 [6:14] bangkain po nila [6:15] yung 817 million [6:16] ang naipakita lang po nila [6:18] it's just about [6:19] 200,000 worth of [6:21] meal [6:22] plus 200,000 worth [6:24] of several shoes [6:26] kung pagdudugtugin po natin dito [6:28] that's just about [6:29] 500,000 [6:30] it's more [6:31] it's even [6:32] less than 1% [6:33] of the [6:35] 817 million [6:37] that we were expecting [6:38] the defense [6:39] to explain [6:40] to the court [6:40] so ganun po [6:41] ka minor detail ito [6:43] that's why [6:43] we also [6:44] was kind of [6:46] frustrated [6:47] that's the whole [6:47] point of having [6:49] today's trial [6:50] is to really [6:51] begin [6:51] explaining [6:52] and discussing [6:54] about the [6:54] 817 [6:55] and I guess [6:56] some of the [6:57] senator judges [6:57] were able [6:58] to observe that [6:59] in fact [7:00] one senator [7:01] judge [7:01] senator judge [7:03] rather [7:03] senator [7:03] mig [7:04] subiri [7:04] also stood up [7:05] and said [7:06] let's talk about [7:08] the substantial [7:09] merits of what [7:11] contained in the [7:12] report of [7:12] attorney cabrera [7:13] unfortunately [7:14] we were left [7:15] empty-handed [7:17] as to [7:18] the supposed [7:20] explanation [7:21] and [7:22] witnesses [7:23] that we need [7:23] to provide [7:24] in order for [7:25] the court [7:25] to understand [7:27] why [7:27] they have [7:28] unexplained [7:29] 817 [7:30] million [7:31] pesos [7:31] they have [7:32] only $500,000 [7:34] worth of [7:35] purchases [7:36] and a [7:37] dinner [7:37] somewhere [7:39] in japan [7:39] all right [7:43] so [7:43] we can [7:44] take a [7:45] question [7:46] let's [7:46] start [7:47] Joseph [7:48] go ahead [7:49] I have a question [7:50] to the [7:51] congressman [7:52] but for the [7:53] others [7:53] okay [7:54] so they dropped [7:55] sizable [7:57] number [7:57] if not [7:57] the majority [7:58] of their [7:58] witnesses [7:58] would you [8:01] like to [8:01] comment [8:01] whether [8:02] there [8:02] is [8:02] an [8:03] effect [8:03] or [8:04] does [8:04] it [8:04] speak [8:04] of [8:05] the [8:05] strength [8:06] or [8:06] the [8:06] weakness [8:07] of [8:08] the [8:08] defense's [8:09] position [8:10] we cannot [8:17] answer [8:18] that [8:18] because [8:21] that [8:21] is [8:22] already [8:22] covered [8:22] by [8:23] subjudice [8:23] I guess [8:27] I have [8:27] already [8:27] we already [8:29] had [8:29] our [8:29] but [8:29] just [8:30] for [8:30] the [8:30] sake [8:30] of [8:31] responding [8:31] to [8:32] the [8:32] question [8:32] I guess [8:33] this [8:33] how [8:33] in my [8:34] own [8:34] observation [8:35] it [8:36] only [8:36] manifest [8:37] how [8:37] the [8:39] defense [8:39] is [8:39] now [8:40] panicking [8:40] they're [8:43] trying [8:43] to [8:43] re-strategize [8:44] again [8:45] their [8:46] initial [8:46] probably [8:47] initial [8:47] attempt [8:48] to [8:48] attack [8:49] the [8:49] case [8:49] of [8:49] the [8:49] prosecution [8:50] since [8:51] it [8:52] has [8:52] already [8:52] been [8:53] proven [8:54] based [8:55] on [8:55] the [8:55] testimonies [8:56] of [8:56] their [8:56] previous [8:56] witnesses [8:57] na [8:57] hindi [8:57] po [8:58] linala [8:58] accomplished [8:59] yung [8:59] pinaka [8:59] purpose [9:00] why [9:00] they [9:00] were [9:00] presented [9:01] in [9:01] the [9:01] first [9:01] place [9:02] question [9:03] of [9:03] competency [9:04] yung [9:05] dalawang [9:05] actually [9:07] karamihan [9:07] when [9:08] being [9:11] confronted [9:11] with [9:12] hard [9:12] questions [9:13] so [9:13] I guess [9:14] in terms [9:14] of [9:14] proving [9:15] to [9:15] the [9:15] court [9:15] whether [9:16] or [9:16] not [9:16] these [9:17] witnesses [9:17] can [9:17] testify [9:18] with [9:18] 100% [9:19] certainty [9:20] as [9:20] to [9:21] the [9:21] interest [9:22] of [9:23] properties [9:23] in [9:24] the [9:24] vice [9:25] president [9:25] as [9:26] to [9:26] whether [9:27] or [9:27] not [9:27] these [9:28] fees [9:29] that [9:29] she [9:29] received [9:30] from [9:31] Dabao [9:31] City [9:31] and [9:32] so [9:33] far [9:33] as [9:34] also [9:34] the [9:35] dealings [9:35] in [9:36] corporate [9:36] accounts [9:37] and [9:37] corporate [9:37] transactions [9:38] of [9:38] these [9:39] two [9:39] companies [9:41] that [9:41] were [9:41] listed [9:41] in [9:42] the [9:42] vice [9:42] president [9:43] Salen [9:43] all [9:44] of [9:44] these [9:44] witnesses [9:45] could [9:46] not [9:46] provide [9:47] and [9:48] even [9:48] could [9:48] not [9:49] provide [9:49] 100% [9:50] certainty [9:50] and [9:51] even [9:51] strengthen [9:52] the [9:52] position [9:53] of [9:53] the [9:53] prosecution [9:54] on [9:54] the [9:55] case [9:55] of [9:55] the [9:56] case [9:57] of [9:58] the [9:58] case [9:59] of [9:59] the [9:59] prosecution [10:01] is [10:01] that [10:02] number [10:02] one [10:02] the [10:03] vice [10:03] president [10:04] should [10:04] have [10:04] at least [10:05] divested [10:05] all her [10:06] business [10:06] interest [10:07] when [10:08] she [10:08] got [10:09] elected [10:09] the [10:10] vice [10:10] presidency [10:11] number [10:12] two [10:12] nakita [10:13] po [10:13] natin [10:13] mas [10:13] na-strengthen [10:14] po [10:14] yung [10:14] position [10:15] ng [10:15] prosecution [10:16] doon [10:16] number [10:17] two [10:17] wala [10:18] ho [10:18] dapat [10:18] siyang [10:18] indirect [10:19] or [10:19] direct [10:20] interest [10:21] over [10:21] certain [10:22] companies [10:22] or [10:23] businesses [10:23] nakita [10:24] na po [10:24] natin [10:25] na [10:25] though [10:26] wala [10:26] sa [10:26] GIS [10:27] na [10:28] sinabit [10:28] ng [10:28] GenCorp [10:29] meron [10:30] siyang [10:30] loose [10:31] investment [10:32] which [10:33] apparently [10:33] is a [10:34] terminology [10:35] coined [10:35] by the [10:36] very [10:36] attorney [10:39] an [10:40] in-house [10:41] council [10:41] ng [10:42] dalawang [10:42] companies [10:43] where [10:44] meron [10:44] pong [10:45] substantial [10:46] interest [10:46] si [10:47] vice [10:48] president [10:48] Sara [10:48] Duterte [10:49] at [10:50] may [10:50] naka [10:50] yung [10:50] isang [10:51] kumpanya [10:51] ay [10:51] naka [10:52] secure [10:53] pa [10:53] ng [10:54] contracts [10:55] sa [10:55] Davao [10:55] City [10:55] so [10:56] ibig [10:57] sabihin [10:57] yung [10:58] issue [10:58] ng [10:58] conflict [10:59] of [10:59] interest [10:59] at [11:00] the [11:00] very [11:00] least [11:00] yung [11:00] bare [11:01] minimum [11:01] na [11:01] sinasabi [11:02] ng [11:02] prosecution [11:02] napatunayan [11:04] po [11:05] ng mga [11:06] witnesses [11:06] na [11:06] defense [11:07] so [11:07] instead [11:08] of [11:08] proving [11:09] the [11:09] case [11:10] of [11:11] the [11:11] defense [11:12] that [11:12] the [11:13] vice [11:13] president [11:13] did [11:14] not [11:14] commit [11:14] any [11:15] impeachable [11:15] offense [11:16] it [11:17] actually [11:18] went [11:18] the [11:18] other [11:18] way [11:19] around [11:19] it [11:20] made [11:20] to [11:21] the [11:21] advantage [11:22] of [11:22] the [11:22] prosecution [11:23] so [11:23] if [11:24] you [11:24] would [11:24] ask [11:25] my [11:25] personal [11:25] observation [11:26] they're [11:27] now [11:27] panicking [11:28] so [11:28] kailangan [11:29] nilang [11:29] re-adjust [11:30] ng [11:30] kanilang [11:31] strategy [11:31] I guess [11:34] what I [11:34] could [11:34] say [11:35] is [11:35] you [11:36] find [11:36] it [11:36] surprising [11:37] let's [11:37] remember [11:38] there [11:38] was [11:38] a [11:38] break [11:39] that [11:39] was [11:39] close [11:39] to [11:39] about [11:40] a [11:40] month [11:40] three [11:41] weeks [11:41] to [11:41] a [11:41] month [11:41] and [11:42] then [11:43] at [11:43] the [11:43] start [11:44] the [11:45] first [11:45] witness [11:46] backed [11:46] out [11:46] and [11:47] then [11:48] we [11:48] saw [11:49] we [11:50] called [11:50] 16 [11:51] witnesses [11:51] they [11:52] were [11:52] here [11:52] and [11:53] then [11:54] even [11:54] if [11:54] they [11:54] were [11:54] here [11:55] already [11:55] nagkaroon [11:56] ng [11:56] decision [11:56] dispense [11:58] with [11:58] 15 [11:58] isa [11:58] na [11:59] matitira [11:59] come [12:00] today [12:00] decided [12:02] also [12:03] not [12:03] to [12:05] last [12:05] witness [12:05] for [12:05] the [12:05] day [12:06] so [12:08] far [12:10] again [12:10] I [12:11] won't [12:11] repeat [12:11] what [12:13] was [12:13] already [12:14] succinctly [12:14] stated [12:15] by [12:15] Kong [12:16] Ziya [12:16] about [12:17] the [12:17] statement [12:18] of [12:18] attorney [12:18] Punay [12:19] but [12:19] more [12:20] than [12:20] anything [12:20] else [12:21] we [12:21] heard [12:21] her [12:22] admit [12:23] in fact [12:24] while [12:25] the [12:25] VP [12:25] was [12:25] already [12:26] serving [12:26] as [12:27] the [12:27] vice [12:27] president [12:27] tumanggap [12:28] talaga [12:28] siya [12:28] ng [12:29] income [12:29] from [12:29] this [12:30] company [12:30] na [12:31] GenCorp [12:31] no [12:31] matter [12:32] kung [12:33] anumang [12:33] label [12:34] na [12:34] gusto [12:34] niyang [12:34] ilagay [12:35] diyan [12:35] the [12:35] fact [12:35] is [12:35] in [12:35] amin [12:36] niya [12:36] tumanggap [12:36] siya [12:37] sa [12:37] GenCorp [12:37] habang [12:38] vice [12:38] president [12:39] siya [12:39] at [12:39] itong [12:40] GenCorp [12:40] na [12:40] to [12:40] again [12:41] merong [12:41] transaction [12:42] with [12:42] the [12:42] city [12:42] government [12:43] of [12:43] Dabao [12:43] worth [12:44] more [12:45] than [12:45] 30 [12:45] million [12:46] pesos [12:46] of [12:46] government [12:47] contracts [12:47] na [12:48] pinamumunan [12:48] ng [12:48] kapatid [12:49] ng [12:49] vice [12:49] president [12:49] at [12:50] yung [12:51] witnesses [12:51] na [12:51] umupuna [12:52] natuloy [12:54] naman [12:54] at [12:54] dumating [12:55] so [12:55] yung [12:56] isa [12:56] admitted [12:57] did [12:58] not [12:58] confirm [12:59] yung [12:59] position [13:00] ng [13:00] defense [13:04] na [13:04] itong [13:05] titled [13:05] property [13:06] na [13:06] napresenta [13:07] namin [13:07] ay [13:07] exactly [13:08] the [13:08] same [13:08] as [13:09] that [13:09] indicated [13:09] in [13:09] the [13:09] salen [13:10] sabi [13:10] niya [13:11] he [13:11] cannot [13:12] confirm [13:12] uncertainty [13:13] that [13:13] they're [13:13] the [13:13] same [13:13] yung [13:14] other [13:14] witness [13:15] agreed [13:16] also [13:16] give [13:17] flip-flopping [13:18] answers [13:18] and [13:18] then [13:19] stated [13:20] admitted [13:21] na [13:22] well [13:22] it's [13:22] possible [13:23] yung [13:23] merong [13:24] ganong [13:24] same [13:24] assessed [13:24] value [13:25] and [13:26] fair [13:26] market [13:26] value [13:27] possible [13:27] na [13:27] meron [13:28] ding [13:28] ibang [13:28] property [13:29] sa [13:29] napakalaking [13:30] barangay [13:30] na yan [13:30] so [13:31] now [13:33] as to [13:33] what [13:34] that [13:34] tells [13:35] us [13:35] about [13:35] the [13:36] strength [13:37] or [13:37] weakness [13:37] of [13:37] their [13:38] defense [13:38] we [13:39] leave [13:39] that [13:39] matter [13:39] for [13:39] the [13:40] determination [13:41] consideration [13:41] of the [13:42] honorable [13:42] senator [13:43] judges [13:43] sir [13:44] mga [13:44] last [13:45] two [13:45] questions [13:45] sir [13:46] sir [13:46] pag [13:46] drain [13:47] up [13:47] na [13:47] yan [13:47] hindi [13:47] na [13:47] pwedeng [13:49] ay [13:49] takakailangan [13:49] ko [13:55] to [13:55] justify [13:56] it [13:57] but [13:57] dito [13:57] clear [13:57] naman [13:58] ang [13:58] mga [13:59] reasons [13:59] nila [13:59] there's [14:00] no [14:00] more [14:00] need [14:00] for [14:00] it [14:01] so [14:01] it's [14:02] trifling [14:02] with [14:03] judicial [14:03] processes [14:04] kung biglang [14:04] magpapaibaiba [14:05] yung isip mo [14:06] okay [14:06] premise [14:07] first [14:07] the [14:08] banks [14:09] kasi [14:09] unexplained [14:09] gulf [14:10] and [14:10] the [14:10] banks [14:11] would [14:11] have [14:11] to [14:12] your [14:12] position [14:12] explained [14:13] what [14:13] and [14:14] because [14:14] they [14:14] did [14:15] not [14:15] appear [14:15] what [14:16] allegations [14:20] remain [14:20] undisputed [14:22] because [14:22] they [14:22] dropped [14:23] these [14:23] witnesses [14:23] well [14:25] if [14:25] you [14:26] will [14:26] recall [14:26] during [14:27] the [14:27] presentation [14:27] of [14:28] our [14:28] expert [14:29] witness [14:29] attorney [14:29] cabrera [14:30] the [14:31] part [14:32] of [14:32] the [14:32] part [14:34] of [14:34] the [14:34] presentation [14:35] of [14:35] attorney [14:36] cabrera [14:36] why [14:37] he [14:38] arrived [14:38] at [14:39] 819 [14:41] 817 [14:43] million [14:44] of [14:45] undeclared [14:46] income [14:48] by the [14:48] vice [14:48] president [14:49] part [14:49] of [14:49] it [14:50] coming [14:53] from [14:53] the [14:54] bank [14:54] various [14:56] bank [14:58] of [14:59] the [14:59] car [15:00] pio [15:00] man [15:01] to [15:03] 30 [15:03] car [15:03] pio [15:03] couple [15:04] so [15:05] i [15:06] think [15:06] more [15:07] or less [15:08] by the [15:08] hundreds [15:08] of [15:09] million [15:09] so [15:10] i [15:11] think [15:11] they [15:12] need [15:12] to [15:12] disprove [15:13] that [15:15] allegation [15:16] on [15:17] top [15:17] of [15:17] that [15:17] if [15:19] you [15:19] will [15:19] recall [15:19] the [15:20] amlac [15:21] likewise [15:23] presented [15:25] several [15:27] transactions [15:29] covered [15:31] and the [15:32] suspicious [15:32] transactions [15:33] coming [15:34] from [15:34] the [15:35] again [15:36] various [15:37] financial [15:38] institution [15:39] that [15:40] reached [15:40] more or [15:41] less [15:42] 4.4 [15:43] billion [15:44] pesos [15:45] aside [15:47] from [15:47] that [15:47] may [15:48] mga [15:49] business [15:51] interest [15:52] pa [15:52] like [15:54] for [15:54] example [15:54] the [15:55] Cal [15:55] 88 [15:56] so [15:56] lahat [15:56] yan [15:57] in [15:58] transaction [15:58] na yan [15:59] of course [15:59] lahat [16:00] yan [16:00] pumasok [16:01] sa [16:01] banko [16:01] and [16:03] yan [16:03] sir [16:03] yung [16:03] undisputed [16:04] so [16:04] far [16:05] so [16:07] far [16:07] undisputed [16:08] yan [16:08] kasi [16:09] part yan [16:10] ang report [16:10] ni [16:10] ator [16:11] ni [16:11] Alex [16:11] cabrero [16:11] eh [16:12] thank you [16:13] just [16:15] to [16:15] remind [16:15] just [16:15] to [16:16] remind [16:16] the [16:16] public [16:16] that [16:18] many [16:20] of [16:20] the [16:21] managers [16:21] of [16:23] the [16:23] banks [16:24] that [16:24] have [16:24] an [16:26] active [16:26] corporate [16:27] both [16:27] corporate [16:28] and [16:28] individual [16:28] accounts [16:29] by [16:29] this [16:30] couple [16:31] the [16:31] vice [16:31] president [16:32] and [16:32] her [16:32] husband [16:33] have [16:33] already [16:34] testified [16:34] we [16:36] have [16:36] already [16:36] presented [16:37] them [16:37] and [16:37] they [16:37] actually [16:38] confirmed [16:38] that [16:39] they [16:39] have [16:39] been [16:40] remaining [16:40] balances [16:41] in [16:41] all [16:42] of [16:42] these [16:42] accounts [16:42] some [16:43] of [16:43] them [16:43] are [16:43] active [16:44] that [16:44] actually [16:45] were [16:46] not [16:46] part [16:46] of [16:46] the [16:47] declaration [16:47] of [16:47] the [16:47] vice [16:48] president [16:48] in [16:48] their [16:48] salary [16:49] so [16:49] that [16:50] would [16:50] be [16:50] indisputable [16:51] fact [16:52] because [16:52] the [16:53] bank [16:53] managers [16:53] themselves [16:55] have [16:55] testified [16:56] on [16:57] those [16:58] bank [17:00] accounts [17:00] that [17:00] bear [17:01] or [17:02] bore [17:02] certain [17:03] amounts [17:03] at [17:04] yun [17:04] naman [17:04] po [17:04] yung [17:05] kinuha [17:06] ni [17:06] attorney [17:06] cabrera [17:07] para [17:08] po [17:08] i-account [17:09] kung [17:10] magkano [17:11] po [17:11] yung [17:11] hindi [17:11] talaga [17:12] na [17:12] ipakita [17:13] sa [17:14] sal [17:14] in [17:14] ni [17:15] vice [17:15] president [17:16] as [17:16] part [17:16] of [17:16] our [17:17] network [17:17] very [17:18] quickly [17:19] again [17:20] so [17:21] naalala [17:21] natin [17:22] on [17:22] the [17:22] prosecution [17:23] presented [17:23] evidence [17:24] pinakita [17:25] itong [17:25] mga [17:25] bank [17:25] accounts [17:26] ng [17:26] vice [17:27] president [17:27] asawa [17:28] niya [17:28] companies [17:29] that [17:29] they have [17:30] financial [17:31] interest [17:31] in [17:31] so [17:32] yan [17:33] yung [17:33] sinab [17:33] up [17:33] ni [17:34] Alex [17:34] cabrera [17:35] sinabi [17:35] niya [17:36] for [17:36] example [17:36] mga [17:37] year [17:37] ending [17:37] balances [17:38] meron [17:38] dyan [17:39] more [17:39] than [17:39] 30 [17:39] million [17:40] pesos [17:40] in [17:40] a [17:41] year [17:41] more [17:41] than [17:41] 20 [17:41] million [17:42] at [17:44] kasama [17:44] yan [17:45] dun [17:45] sa [17:45] pag [17:45] determine [17:46] when [17:46] he [17:46] said [17:46] computation [17:47] na [17:48] 817 [17:49] million [17:49] net worth [17:51] ng [17:51] vice [17:51] president [17:52] now [17:52] you're [17:54] asking [17:54] us [17:54] kung [17:55] itong [17:56] mga [17:56] witnesses [17:58] neto [17:58] what [18:00] will [18:00] they [18:00] have [18:00] said [18:01] about [18:01] this [18:01] bank [18:01] accounts [18:02] first [18:03] of [18:03] all [18:03] they [18:04] did [18:05] not [18:05] question [18:05] the [18:05] authenticity [18:06] of [18:06] those [18:06] bank [18:07] accounts [18:07] when [18:08] we [18:08] presented [18:08] them [18:09] second [18:10] itong [18:10] mga [18:11] bank [18:11] representatives [18:12] based [18:13] on [18:13] their [18:13] motion [18:14] for [18:14] subpoena [18:14] it [18:15] was [18:15] also [18:16] not [18:16] in [18:16] their [18:17] intention [18:17] to [18:18] talk [18:18] about [18:18] those [18:19] specific [18:20] bank [18:20] accounts [18:21] or [18:21] at [18:21] least [18:21] the [18:22] documents [18:23] that [18:23] they [18:23] submitted [18:23] regarding [18:24] those [18:24] statements [18:25] of [18:25] accounts [18:26] balances [18:26] etc [18:27] ang purpose [18:28] lang [18:28] na [18:28] nakalagay [18:29] doon [18:29] to [18:30] authenticate [18:30] some [18:30] letters [18:31] sent [18:32] by [18:33] Tornay [18:35] Carpio [18:35] regarding [18:36] this [18:36] accounts [18:39] so [18:39] hindi [18:40] din [18:40] naman [18:41] yung [18:41] mismong [18:41] laman [18:42] ng [18:43] accounts [18:43] ang [18:43] pag-uusapan [18:44] about [18:45] lang [18:45] daw [18:45] dun [18:45] sa [18:45] letters [18:46] kaya [18:46] nga [18:46] sinabi [18:47] nila [18:47] since [18:48] yan [18:48] lang [18:48] naman [18:48] yan [18:48] yung [18:49] letters [18:49] lang [18:49] they [18:50] didn't [18:51] see [18:51] the [18:51] need [18:51] anymore [18:52] na [18:52] ipatawag [18:53] pa [18:53] so [18:53] to [18:54] answer [18:54] your [18:54] question [18:54] so [18:55] far [18:55] wala [18:56] pa [18:56] tayo [18:56] nakitang [18:57] testigo [18:58] from [18:58] them [18:58] who [18:59] will [18:59] testify [19:00] in [19:00] these [19:01] matters [19:01] or [19:01] sasabihin [19:02] nilang [19:02] hindi [19:02] totoo [19:03] yung [19:03] account [19:03] or [19:04] un-exist [19:04] to [19:05] dispute [19:05] it [19:05] in [19:05] any [19:05] way [19:06] so [19:06] thank [19:07] you [19:08] thank [19:09] you [19:09] joseph [19:10] si [19:10] maria [19:11] naman [19:11] ang [19:11] pakinggan [19:11] natin [19:14] sir [19:14] you [19:14] you [19:15] mentioned [19:16] earlier [19:17] yung [19:17] tungkol [19:18] nga [19:18] po [19:18] sa [19:18] pinapina [19:18] sa [19:19] pina [19:19] documents [19:19] tapos [19:20] kasama [19:20] po [19:20] doon [19:21] yung [19:21] dollar [19:21] accounts [19:21] sa [19:21] BPI [19:24] tapos [19:25] hindi [19:25] na [19:25] nga [19:25] po [19:25] prinisinta [19:26] ng [19:27] defense [19:27] do [19:27] you [19:28] think [19:28] kaya [19:28] hindi [19:29] na [19:29] iprinisinta [19:30] because [19:30] of [19:30] that [19:31] sabi [19:32] pa [19:32] kaha [19:32] ni [19:32] kong [19:33] ace [19:33] barbers [19:33] to [19:34] prevent [19:34] further [19:35] damage [19:35] doon [19:36] sa [19:36] depensa [19:37] well [19:38] we can [19:39] only [19:39] guess [19:39] di ba [19:40] pero [19:41] siyempre [19:41] that [19:42] will be [19:42] pagka [19:43] pinresenta [19:43] nila yun [19:44] yung [19:44] BPI [19:45] you have [19:45] to [19:46] remember [19:46] ang isa [19:47] sa mga [19:47] pinakamalaking [19:48] issue [19:49] dito [19:49] is [19:49] yung [19:49] BPI [19:50] Julio [19:53] Vargas [19:53] so [19:54] parang [19:55] medyo [19:56] doon [19:57] nung [19:57] naipresenta [19:58] yun [19:58] medyo [19:59] malalaki [19:59] yung [19:59] mga [19:59] account [20:00] doon [20:00] so [20:01] hindi [20:01] mo [20:01] maiiwasan [20:02] na [20:02] pupwedeng [20:03] pumunta [20:04] na [20:04] patungkol [20:05] doon [20:05] yung [20:05] mga [20:06] ibang [20:06] tanong [20:07] kumbaga [20:07] para [20:08] ka [20:08] magbubukas [20:08] ng [20:08] Pandora's [20:09] box [20:09] so [20:10] we're [20:10] not [20:10] saying [20:11] na [20:11] meron [20:11] pero [20:12] magiging [20:14] part [20:15] yun [20:15] kumbaga [20:16] para [20:16] nagbukas [20:17] ka [20:17] na [20:18] ng [20:18] pinto [20:18] sa [20:19] further [20:19] question [20:20] and [20:21] so [20:21] far [20:21] lahat [20:23] naman [20:23] ang [20:24] naipresenta [20:24] nilang [20:25] testigo [20:25] pagdating [20:26] sa [20:26] cross [20:26] examination [20:27] medyo [20:29] hindi pala [20:30] medyo [20:30] nakita [20:33] naman [20:33] natin [20:33] na [20:34] maganda [20:35] yung [20:35] nagiging [20:35] cross [20:36] maganda [20:38] yung mga [20:39] nagiging [20:39] cross [20:39] examination [20:40] ng [20:42] prosecution [20:42] aking [20:43] idadagdag [20:44] ko [20:44] lang [20:45] it [20:46] should [20:47] they [20:47] continue [20:48] on or [20:48] pursue [20:48] presenting [20:49] the [20:49] BPI [20:50] official [20:51] it [20:51] would [20:51] open [20:52] up [20:52] a [20:52] flood [20:52] gate [20:53] of [20:53] questions [20:53] that [20:54] they [20:54] could [20:54] not [20:54] possibly [20:55] manage [20:55] kung [20:57] halimbawa [20:58] mapuprove [20:59] dyan [20:59] na may [20:59] dollar [21:00] account [21:00] halimbawa [21:02] si [21:02] vice [21:02] president [21:03] Sara [21:03] Duterte [21:04] mas [21:05] magkakaroon [21:06] pa tayo [21:06] ng [21:06] question [21:08] na hindi [21:09] lang pala [21:09] 817 [21:10] million [21:11] ang hindi [21:12] na [21:12] ma-account [21:13] o ma-explain [21:14] it could [21:15] probably [21:15] be [21:15] more [21:16] so [21:17] I think [21:19] yun ang [21:19] na-realize [21:20] din nila [21:20] because [21:21] the cross [21:21] examination [21:22] as [21:22] we [21:23] observed [21:24] actually [21:26] hit [21:26] yung [21:28] mga [21:28] questions [21:29] na [21:29] dapat [21:29] nila [21:30] ma-explain [21:30] and [21:31] hard [21:31] questions [21:32] as [21:33] we [21:33] have [21:33] seen [21:33] during [21:34] the [21:34] cross [21:34] examination [21:35] of [21:36] the [21:36] prosecution [21:37] e talagang [21:38] hindi [21:38] nakakasupply [21:39] ng [21:39] tamang [21:39] kasagutan [21:40] so I [21:40] think [21:41] that's [21:41] part [21:41] of [21:41] avoiding [21:42] that [21:43] flood [21:43] the [21:44] opening [21:44] of a [21:44] flood [21:45] gate [21:45] which [21:45] I [21:46] think [21:46] the [21:46] defense [21:47] could [21:47] not [21:47] possibly [21:47] manage [21:48] kung [21:48] sakaling [21:50] mapag-uusapan [21:51] itong [21:51] dollar [21:52] accounts [21:52] at may [21:53] pakita [21:53] na [21:54] hindi [21:54] lang pala [21:54] again [21:55] 817 [21:56] million [21:56] ang [21:57] hindi [21:57] ma-explain [21:58] mukhang [21:59] mas [21:59] malaki [21:59] pa [22:00] and [22:00] in [22:00] dollar [22:00] currency [22:01] I [22:05] understand [22:05] po [22:05] si [22:06] attorney [22:06] Ali [22:06] yung [22:07] supposedly [22:07] mag-cross [22:10] hindi [22:10] nyo [22:10] ng [22:10] prosecution [22:11] na [22:12] dren [22:14] up [22:14] nga [22:14] itong [22:15] testigo [22:16] to [22:16] when [22:17] in [22:17] fact [22:17] sinasabi [22:18] nyo [22:18] po [22:18] marami [22:19] hindi [22:19] sa [22:20] Pandora's [22:20] box [22:20] marami [22:21] kayong [22:21] if [22:21] ever [22:22] sa [22:22] yung [22:22] dito [22:22] Well [22:25] at [22:25] the [22:25] end [22:25] of [22:25] the [22:25] day [22:25] we [22:26] can [22:26] control [22:27] their [22:28] decision [22:29] on [22:30] witness [22:32] selection [22:32] and [22:33] among [22:34] their [22:34] witnesses [22:34] who [22:35] are [22:35] the [22:35] ones [22:35] that [22:36] they'll [22:36] continue [22:36] to [22:36] present [22:37] and [22:37] the [22:38] ones [22:38] that [22:39] they'll [22:39] drop [22:39] but [22:40] syempre [22:40] we've [22:41] prepared [22:41] to [22:42] cross [22:43] examine [22:43] all [22:43] of [22:44] their [22:44] witnesses [22:44] and [22:45] normal [22:46] naman [22:46] talaga [22:46] ang [22:46] goal [22:47] mo [22:47] sa [22:47] cross [22:47] examination [22:48] not [22:49] just [22:49] to [22:49] test [22:51] and [22:51] destroy [22:51] the [22:52] testimony [22:52] of [22:53] the [22:53] witness [22:53] and [22:54] if [22:55] applicable [22:56] the [22:56] credibility [22:56] as [22:57] well [22:57] but [22:57] normal [22:58] naman [22:58] yan [22:58] speaking [22:59] generally [22:59] if [23:00] you [23:00] can [23:00] you [23:01] try [23:01] to [23:01] elicit [23:02] information [23:02] from [23:03] that [23:03] witness [23:04] that [23:05] will [23:05] even [23:05] strengthen [23:06] your [23:07] own [23:07] case [23:07] so [23:08] that's [23:08] why [23:09] we [23:09] always [23:10] welcome [23:13] the [23:13] presentation [23:14] of [23:14] these [23:14] witnesses [23:14] and [23:15] we're [23:15] prepared [23:16] to [23:16] cross [23:16] examine [23:16] them [23:17] but [23:17] we [23:17] lost [23:18] that [23:18] opportunity [23:18] but [23:19] that's [23:21] okay [23:21] at the end [23:21] of the [23:21] day [23:22] we always [23:22] say [23:23] tiwala [23:25] and [23:25] we [23:26] have [23:26] confidence [23:26] to [23:26] doon [23:26] to [23:26] the [23:26] evidence [23:27] that [23:27] presented [23:27] namin [23:28] siguro [23:29] ganito [23:29] nalang [23:30] in [23:32] so far [23:32] as [23:32] the [23:33] prosecution [23:34] is [23:34] concerned [23:35] masaya [23:38] kami [23:38] sa [23:39] naipresenta [23:39] namin [23:40] so [23:40] at [23:41] napakita [23:42] naman [23:42] namin [23:42] yung [23:43] mga [23:44] ebidensya [23:44] at [23:45] nakita [23:46] rin [23:46] ninyo [23:46] yung [23:47] kahandaan [23:47] ng [23:48] prosecution [23:48] pagdating [23:49] po [23:49] sa [23:49] cross [23:49] examination [23:50] nakita [23:52] naman [23:53] po [23:53] natin [23:53] from [23:54] day [23:54] one [23:54] kung [23:55] paano [23:55] namin [23:56] kinro [23:56] sa [23:57] examine [23:57] ang bawat [23:58] testigo [23:59] na hinaharap [24:00] ng [24:01] depensa [24:01] so [24:02] maaaring [24:05] masabi namin [24:06] na kung [24:06] saka-sakali [24:07] man [24:07] na sila [24:08] ay magaharap [24:09] ng mga [24:10] testigo [24:11] na may [24:12] kaugnay [24:12] dito [24:12] sa mga [24:13] bangko [24:14] e sisiguraduhin [24:15] din namin [24:16] sa inyo [24:16] na handa [24:17] kami [24:17] pagdating [24:18] sa [24:18] cross [24:19] examination [24:19] last [24:22] na lang [24:22] ito [24:22] sana hindi [24:23] ako [24:23] masubdude [24:24] dito [24:24] pero [24:25] ito [24:26] personal [24:26] wala [24:26] pa lang [24:27] akong [24:27] subdued [24:27] dito [24:27] personal [24:28] ko [24:28] na [24:28] observation [24:28] ito [24:29] I think [24:30] takot [24:30] sila [24:30] na may [24:31] presenta [24:31] ang [24:31] witness [24:32] na [24:32] neutral [24:32] kasi [24:34] lahat [24:35] ang [24:35] naging [24:35] witnesses [24:36] nila [24:36] ay [24:36] lahat [24:38] yung [24:38] question [24:38] of [24:39] credibility [24:39] kasi [24:40] credibility [24:40] is [24:41] important [24:41] to [24:42] derive [24:43] into [24:43] truthfulness [24:44] to [24:45] determine [24:45] the [24:46] truthfulness [24:46] of a [24:47] testimony [24:47] lahat [24:48] po [24:48] na [24:48] ina [24:48] presenta [24:49] nila [24:49] doon [24:49] una [24:50] ina [24:50] point [24:51] ng [24:51] vice [24:51] president [24:52] yung [24:52] isa [24:53] in [24:53] house [24:53] council [24:54] ng [24:54] mga [24:54] kumpanya [24:54] kung [24:55] saan [24:55] may [24:55] interest [24:55] ang [24:56] vice [24:56] president [24:56] itong [24:57] bago [24:57] naman [24:57] po [24:58] ay [24:58] avid [24:59] supporter [25:00] ng [25:00] vice [25:00] president [25:01] at [25:01] kaibigan [25:01] ni [25:02] Mance [25:03] Carpio [25:03] so [25:03] ang [25:04] napresenta [25:04] po [25:04] ng [25:05] prosecution [25:05] ay lahat [25:06] po [25:06] ito [25:06] neutral [25:07] wala [25:07] pong [25:07] pinapanigan [25:08] galing [25:08] po [25:08] ito [25:09] sa [25:09] mga [25:09] ahensya [25:11] ng [25:11] ating [25:11] pamahalaan [25:12] at [25:13] ang [25:13] kanila [25:13] pong [25:13] tinetestify [25:14] ay [25:14] mga [25:15] dokumento [25:15] yung [25:16] mga [25:16] dokumento [25:16] wala [25:17] pong [25:17] propensity [25:17] na [25:18] magsinwaling [25:19] ito [25:19] at yung [25:19] mga [25:20] dokumento [25:20] ay [25:20] galing [25:21] po [25:21] mismo [25:21] sa [25:21] vice [25:22] presidente [25:22] yung [25:23] kanyang [25:23] ITR [25:24] yung [25:25] kanyang [25:25] back [25:26] records [25:26] po [25:26] so [25:27] hindi [25:27] po [25:27] nagsisinwaling [25:28] itong [25:28] mga [25:28] dokumento [25:29] na [25:29] ito [25:29] ang [25:29] tao [25:30] may [25:30] propensity [25:30] to [25:31] lie [25:31] but [25:32] documents [25:32] can [25:33] never [25:33] lie [25:33] so [25:34] I [25:34] think [25:34] that's [25:34] one [25:34] of the [25:35] things [25:35] that [25:35] I [25:35] observe [25:36] that [25:36] probably [25:37] once [25:37] they [25:37] present [25:38] a [25:38] neutral [25:38] witness [25:40] na [25:40] wala [25:40] naman [25:41] talagang [25:42] 100% [25:44] na [25:44] walang [25:45] relationship [25:46] professional [25:47] or [25:47] personal [25:48] relationship [25:49] with [25:49] the [25:49] respondent [25:50] ay [25:50] mukhang [25:52] ang magiging [25:52] testimony [25:53] nito [25:53] last [25:55] na lang [25:55] po [25:55] sir [25:56] attorney [25:56] you said [25:57] can you find it [25:58] surprising [25:58] yung [25:59] nagdalaglag [26:00] nga ng [26:00] witnesses [26:01] marami [26:01] na silang [26:02] drain up [26:03] and all [26:03] pero [26:03] do you also [26:04] find it [26:05] surprising [26:05] yung [26:05] testimony [26:06] mismo [26:07] nung [26:07] defense [26:08] witness [26:08] kahapon [26:09] saying [26:09] 2.1 [26:10] million [26:10] pesos [26:11] tinanggap [26:11] ni [26:11] VP [26:11] Sarah [26:12] during [26:12] her [26:12] 10 [26:12] year [26:13] 2022 [26:13] to [26:13] 2025 [26:14] tapos [26:15] later [26:16] on [26:16] confirm [26:17] din [26:17] niya [26:18] na [26:18] income [26:19] to [26:19] tapos [26:19] yung [26:20] tinanong [26:20] ni [26:20] attorney [26:20] I [26:21] mean [26:21] senator [26:22] Risa [26:22] sinasabi [26:23] niya [26:23] na [26:23] when [26:24] she [26:24] cited [26:24] the [26:25] constitution [26:25] paglabag [26:26] nga [26:26] ro [26:26] yun [26:26] sa [26:27] constitution [26:28] I [26:29] mean [26:29] ano [26:31] kaya [26:31] nangyari [26:31] bakit [26:32] hinayaan [26:32] ng [26:32] defense [26:33] sa [26:33] tingin [26:33] ninyo [26:34] na [26:34] lumabas [26:34] yun [26:34] well [26:36] I [26:37] guess [26:37] the [26:38] defense [26:38] will [26:38] be [26:38] the [26:39] only [26:39] one [26:39] who [26:39] could [26:39] give [26:40] the [26:40] answer [26:41] to [26:41] that [26:41] question [26:41] but [26:42] kami [26:42] of [26:43] course [26:43] we [26:43] welcome [26:44] that [26:44] admission [26:45] because [26:46] we [26:47] think [26:47] it's [26:48] quite [26:49] material [26:49] considering [26:50] yun [26:51] naman [26:54] presidente [26:54] mismo [26:55] nagdeklara [26:55] sa [26:56] kanyang [26:56] salay [26:56] meron [26:57] siyang [26:57] financial [26:57] interest [26:58] dito [26:58] sa [26:58] Gencorp [26:59] and [26:59] they [27:00] presented [27:00] this [27:01] witness [27:01] test [27:02] specifically [27:03] to testify [27:03] on that [27:04] matter [27:04] to [27:04] explain [27:04] no [27:05] and [27:06] that [27:10] is [27:10] the [27:10] explanation [27:11] that [27:11] she [27:11] gave [27:11] no [27:11] although [27:12] wala [27:13] nga [27:13] daw [27:13] siyang [27:14] mapakitang [27:15] any [27:15] document [27:16] to [27:16] show [27:17] kung [27:17] ano [27:18] yung [27:18] kasundoan [27:19] nila [27:19] dyan [27:20] about [27:20] sa [27:20] loose [27:21] investment [27:21] na [27:21] tinatawag [27:22] niya [27:22] ano [27:23] yung [27:23] terms [27:23] bakit [27:24] ganyan [27:24] yung [27:24] binabayad [27:25] ng [27:25] mga [27:25] returns [27:26] pero [27:27] at the [27:27] end [27:27] of the [27:27] day [27:27] inamin [27:28] pa [27:28] rin [27:29] the [27:29] bottom [27:30] line [27:30] tumatanggap [27:31] talaga [27:31] ang [27:32] presidente [27:32] dito [27:33] sa [27:33] Gencorp [27:33] na [27:33] to [27:34] so [27:35] siyempre [27:36] hindi [27:36] natin [27:37] pangungunahan [27:38] ang [27:39] vice [27:39] presidente [27:40] sa [27:41] Gencorp [27:41] na [27:41] to [27:41] but [27:42] hindi [27:42] natin [27:43] pangungunahan [27:43] kung [27:43] anong [27:44] magiging [27:45] findings [27:46] ng [27:47] senator [27:50] judges [27:50] dyan [27:51] kung [27:51] para [27:52] sa [27:52] kanila [27:52] maliwanag [27:53] na [27:53] bayan [27:53] na [27:53] paglabag [27:54] na [27:55] sa [27:55] konstitusyon [27:56] but [27:56] para [27:59] mas [27:59] maliwanag [28:00] lahoy [28:00] yung [28:00] konteksto [28:00] dahil [28:01] lalo [28:02] na [28:02] itong [28:02] mga [28:02] answers [28:03] na [28:03] to [28:03] nang [28:04] galing [28:04] sa [28:04] tanong [28:04] din [28:04] no [28:05] nung [28:05] mga [28:05] senator [28:05] judges [28:06] sabi [28:06] nga [28:07] ho [28:07] niya [28:07] kasi [28:07] ating [28:07] kong [28:08] binibigay [28:08] niya [28:08] explanation [28:09] ang [28:10] lose [28:10] investment [28:11] niya [28:11] paukul [28:11] daw [28:12] dun [28:12] sa [28:12] isang [28:12] franchise [28:13] in [28:13] Times [28:14] Square [28:14] pero [28:15] as [28:15] asked [28:16] sabi [28:17] nga [28:17] ang [28:18] nagbibigay [28:18] ng [28:19] pera [28:19] sa [28:19] kanya [28:19] hindi [28:20] Times [28:20] Square [28:20] hindi [28:21] naman [28:21] yan [28:21] corporate [28:21] entity [28:22] ang [28:22] nagbibigay [28:23] ng pera [28:23] sa [28:23] kanya [28:24] ang [28:24] GenCorp [28:25] at [28:26] ang [28:26] GenCorp [28:27] yan [28:27] din [28:28] ang [28:28] same [28:29] entity [28:29] na [28:30] pumapasok [28:31] sa [28:31] bidding [28:31] sa [28:32] government [28:32] contracts [28:33] with [28:34] LGU [28:34] So [28:35] yan [28:35] din [28:36] ang [28:36] tumatanggap [28:36] ng [28:37] pera [28:37] from [28:37] LGU [28:38] So [28:39] ngayon [28:39] kung [28:39] sapat [28:40] na yan [28:40] to show [28:41] na may [28:41] violation [28:42] ng [28:42] prohibition [28:43] sa [28:43] constitution [28:43] na [28:44] wag kang [28:45] magkaroon [28:45] ng [28:45] financial [28:46] interest [28:46] sa [28:47] government [28:47] contracts [28:48] we [28:49] leave [28:49] that [28:49] to [28:50] court [28:50] to [28:50] determine [28:51] Alright [28:54] Thank you [28:54] Marian [28:54] Now [28:55] Haji [28:56] Sorry [29:02] I have to [29:02] ask [29:02] this [29:03] but [29:04] since [29:05] sabing [29:05] it [29:05] po [29:06] ninyo [29:06] less [29:06] than [29:06] 1% [29:07] pa [29:07] nga [29:07] po [29:08] yung [29:08] ng [29:09] kabu [29:10] ang [29:10] 817 [29:11] million [29:11] tapos [29:12] maliliit [29:12] nga po [29:12] yung [29:13] witnesses [29:13] na [29:13] ipresent [29:14] but [29:14] you [29:15] think [29:15] sinadya [29:16] pong [29:17] piliin [29:18] yung [29:19] dalawang [29:20] sumalang [29:21] po [29:21] ngayong [29:21] araw [29:22] yung [29:22] from [29:22] Nike [29:23] and [29:23] from [29:24] isa [29:26] yung [29:26] Japanese [29:27] restaurant [29:27] to [29:29] depict [29:29] an [29:29] image [29:30] na [29:30] mabuti [29:32] pong [29:32] tao [29:33] mabait [29:34] nanlilibre [29:35] sinusuportahan [29:38] yung [29:38] mga [29:38] atleta [29:40] kumbaga [29:41] to put [29:42] I don't [29:44] know [29:44] if [29:44] it's [29:45] drama [29:45] ang [29:50] paniniwala [29:51] ko po [29:51] na [29:52] yung [29:53] kanila [29:53] mga [29:53] testigo [29:54] na [29:54] pinresenta [29:54] kanila [29:55] ay [29:55] pang [29:55] SOCMED [29:56] so [29:57] wala pong [29:58] kinalaman [29:58] yun [29:59] sa [29:59] pagpapatunay [30:00] na [30:01] ito [30:02] ay [30:02] walang [30:04] kasalanan [30:05] o [30:06] para [30:07] i-dispute [30:07] yung [30:08] mga [30:08] pinresenta [30:09] namin [30:09] dahil [30:10] kung [30:10] titignan [30:11] po [30:11] ninyo [30:11] may [30:12] mas [30:13] malaking [30:13] issue [30:13] eh [30:14] asa [30:16] na [30:16] yung [30:16] undeclared [30:17] na [30:17] 817 [30:18] million [30:19] bakit [30:20] na pinpresenta [30:21] ninyo [30:21] yung [30:21] pagkain [30:22] yung [30:23] kumain [30:24] na [30:24] worth [30:24] 200,000 [30:25] yung [30:26] Nike [30:26] na [30:26] 200,000 [30:27] kami [30:29] naman po [30:29] nagre-respond lang [30:31] sumasagot lang [30:32] dahil [30:33] yun ang [30:33] ipinresenta [30:34] ang testigo [30:34] pero [30:36] again [30:37] uulitin ko [30:38] yung [30:38] pinresenta [30:39] kanina [30:39] ng mga [30:40] testigo [30:41] pang [30:41] SOCMED [30:42] at [30:43] pang [30:43] drama [30:43] pang [30:44] K-drama [30:44] well [30:53] mukhang [30:55] ganun po [30:55] yung [30:55] nangyayari [30:56] dahil [30:57] kasi [31:00] ang dapat [31:00] mong ipipresenta [31:01] na una [31:02] ang una [31:03] mong dapat [31:03] babutasin na [31:05] agad [31:05] yung mga [31:05] malaking [31:06] testigo [31:08] na pinresenta [31:09] namin [31:09] yung [31:10] executive [31:10] director [31:11] ng [31:11] AMLAC [31:12] na nagsasabi [31:12] na 4.4 [31:13] billion [31:14] ang naging [31:15] transaksyon [31:17] ng [31:18] mag-asawang [31:19] Duterte [31:20] Carpio [31:21] bukod pa [31:22] sa [31:22] mahigit [31:23] 4 billion [31:24] na mga [31:25] business [31:26] interest [31:27] ni [31:27] attorney [31:29] Manese [31:29] Carpio [31:30] yung [31:31] forensic [31:33] expert [31:33] na nagsasabi [31:34] na bukod [31:35] sa 98 [31:36] million [31:37] na [31:38] dineklara [31:38] ng ating [31:39] vice [31:39] presidente [31:40] sa kanyang [31:41] SALEN [31:42] meron pa siyang [31:43] hindi [31:44] dinideklarang [31:44] 817 [31:46] million [31:47] conservative [31:49] and it [31:50] could go [31:51] as high [31:52] as [31:52] 1.5 [31:53] billion [31:54] so [31:55] bakit po [31:56] yung mga [31:56] ito [31:57] ay hindi [31:57] po sila [31:58] nagpresenta [31:59] ng mga [31:59] ebidensya [32:00] o testigo [32:01] bakit po [32:02] ang pinapresenta [32:03] nila [32:03] yung [32:04] paggain [32:04] sa [32:05] restaurant [32:06] at saka [32:06] yung mga [32:07] pagbili [32:07] ng [32:08] sapatos [32:09] na [32:09] 200,000 [32:10] so [32:11] hindi po [32:11] ito [32:12] issue [32:12] na maliit [32:14] pinagtatakpan po [32:16] nila [32:16] yung issue [32:17] na malaki [32:18] na [32:20] billion [32:20] billion [32:21] daang [32:21] daang [32:22] million [32:22] na issue [32:23] para po [32:25] mapagtakpan [32:26] yung mga [32:27] totoong [32:28] issue [32:28] na hinahanap [32:29] natin [32:30] so [32:31] what they're [32:31] trying to [32:32] do [32:32] is [32:32] they're [32:32] trying [32:33] to [32:33] appeal [32:33] to [32:34] the [32:35] sympathy [32:38] of the [32:38] people [32:39] okay [32:41] yes [32:42] again [32:44] specifically [32:45] with regards [32:46] to the [32:46] second witness [32:47] si Mr. [32:47] Chad [32:48] Parian [32:48] para hindi [32:49] ho tayo [32:50] maligaw [32:51] dun sa [32:51] issues [32:51] just to [32:52] clarify [32:52] ang tinatanong [32:53] ho [32:54] ng [32:54] prosecutor [32:56] natin [32:56] kanina [32:57] sa [32:57] witness [32:58] hindi [32:59] naman [32:59] ho [32:59] siya [33:00] tinanong [33:00] about [33:01] dun sa [33:01] kung [33:02] tama [33:02] ba [33:03] ang [33:03] magulang [33:03] suportahan [33:04] niya [33:04] yung [33:04] anak [33:04] niya [33:04] sa [33:05] sports [33:05] hindi [33:06] naman [33:07] ho [33:07] yan [33:07] kinu [33:07] question [33:08] at [33:08] sinabi [33:09] naman [33:09] ng [33:09] prosecutor [33:10] kanina [33:10] nung [33:10] tinatanong [33:11] siya [33:11] wala [33:12] ho [33:12] we're [33:13] not [33:13] challenging [33:14] that [33:14] yung [33:14] pagsuporta [33:15] sa mga [33:15] atleta [33:16] wala [33:17] ho [33:17] tayong [33:17] issue [33:17] dyan [33:18] natanong [33:19] lang [33:19] naman [33:20] yung [33:20] issue [33:20] na yan [33:21] dahil [33:21] nag [33:21] present [33:22] ho [33:22] sila [33:22] ng [33:23] testigo [33:24] na yan [33:24] ho [33:25] yung [33:25] mismong [33:25] subject [33:27] ng [33:27] testimony [33:28] niya [33:28] na pinapaniwanag [33:30] niya [33:30] para saan [33:31] itong [33:31] more than [33:31] 250,000 [33:33] na single [33:34] transaction [33:34] dito sa [33:35] Nike [33:35] so [33:35] sinagot [33:36] niya [33:37] sinabi [33:37] niya [33:38] para [33:38] daw [33:38] yan [33:39] sa [33:39] mga [33:39] member [33:41] ng [33:41] isang [33:41] basketball [33:42] team [33:42] of course [33:43] meron [33:43] ho [33:44] kaming [33:44] karapatan [33:44] mag [33:45] cross [33:45] examine [33:45] tanongin [33:46] siya [33:47] para [33:47] makita [33:47] ano [33:49] yung [33:49] buong [33:50] picture [33:50] dito [33:51] anong [33:51] context [33:51] yan [33:52] ano [33:52] ho [33:52] ang [33:52] buong [33:53] katotohanan [33:54] ng issue [33:54] na yan [33:54] dahil [33:55] sinagot [33:55] niya [33:55] we have [33:56] tried [33:56] na lumabas [33:57] naman [33:57] dun sa [33:59] cross [33:59] examination [33:59] at [34:00] he [34:00] admitted [34:01] based [34:02] sa photos [34:02] din [34:02] na [34:02] presenta [34:03] niya [34:05] yung [34:05] mga [34:06] bata [34:06] lahat [34:07] ng [34:07] mga [34:07] nandun [34:08] binili [34:09] talaga [34:09] so [34:10] bakit [34:10] so [34:11] again [34:11] ano yung [34:11] question [34:12] doon [34:13] sinasabi [34:14] nga [34:14] pinag-uusapan [34:15] kasi [34:15] dito [34:16] unexplained [34:17] wealth [34:17] ang pinag-uusapan [34:19] dito [34:19] merong [34:20] hindi [34:20] mapaliwanag [34:21] na yaman [34:21] based [34:22] dun sa [34:22] testimony [34:23] ng mga [34:23] prosecution [34:24] witnesses [34:25] na [34:25] 870 [34:26] million [34:26] pesos [34:27] at [34:27] nakita [34:28] among [34:28] those [34:29] may [34:29] transactions [34:29] ganito [34:30] kalaking [34:31] kahalaga [34:31] so [34:32] to be [34:34] clear [34:34] yun [34:34] ho [34:35] yung [34:35] tinitignan [34:35] dun [34:35] kapanipaniwala [34:37] ba [34:37] na [34:38] ang [34:38] isang [34:39] tao [34:39] nawala [34:40] siyang [34:40] dineklara [34:41] na cash [34:42] on hand [34:43] or cash [34:43] in bank [34:44] no [34:45] zero [34:46] nakadeklara [34:47] pero [34:48] merong [34:49] milyong [34:49] milyong [34:49] lumalabas [34:50] sa bank [34:51] accounts [34:51] at [34:52] kayang [34:52] bumili [34:53] ng isang [34:54] gastusan [34:55] 250,000 [34:57] worth [34:58] of shoes [34:58] yun lang [34:59] naman [34:59] yung issue [35:00] hindi [35:00] naman [35:01] sinasabi [35:02] na [35:02] huwag [35:02] mong [35:02] supportahan [35:03] yung [35:03] anak [35:04] mo [35:04] sa sports [35:04] wala [35:05] naman [35:05] sinabing [35:06] ganyang [35:06] prosecution [35:07] wala [35:07] naman [35:07] din [35:07] ganun [35:08] tanong [35:08] yun [35:10] lang [35:10] naman [35:10] tinitignan [35:11] natin [35:11] dito [35:12] yung [35:12] mismong [35:12] transaction [35:13] kaya [35:14] bang [35:14] gawin [35:15] no [35:15] nung [35:15] tao [35:16] na wala [35:16] location [35:17] hand [35:17] cash [35:17] and bank [35:18] yung [35:18] ganun [35:18] klaseng [35:19] transaction [35:19] yun [35:20] naman [35:20] yung issue [35:20] dyan [35:20] ang [35:22] babalikan [35:22] po [35:22] natin [35:23] yung [35:23] presentation [35:23] ni [35:24] atorne [35:24] cabrera [35:25] is [35:25] these are [35:26] just [35:26] circumstantial [35:27] ibig sabihin [35:28] nagbigay lang [35:29] po siya [35:29] ng example [35:30] sa isang [35:31] bagay [35:31] kung saan [35:32] ang isang [35:32] tao [35:33] na may [35:33] ganun [35:34] klaseng [35:34] nyaman [35:35] ito yung [35:35] mga [35:36] possibility [35:36] na [35:37] ginagawa [35:38] niya [35:39] ito yung [35:40] mga [35:40] possibility [35:40] ang [35:41] punto [35:43] ay [35:44] example [35:44] po [35:45] yun [35:45] na may [35:46] papaliwanag [35:47] na [35:47] ang taong [35:49] may [35:49] sobra [35:50] ang may [35:51] capacity [35:52] lang [35:53] na [35:53] gumawa [35:54] ng ganito [35:54] na [35:55] manlibre [35:56] ng [35:57] 200 plus [35:57] in [35:58] one [35:58] mil [35:58] at [35:59] manlibre [36:00] ng [36:00] mga [36:01] kagamitan [36:04] individual [36:05] so [36:06] hindi po [36:06] sinasabi [36:07] doon [36:08] na [36:08] yung [36:09] sabi [36:09] nga [36:09] ni [36:09] attorney [36:10] jay [36:11] hindi [36:12] po [36:12] ang [36:12] punto [36:12] doon [36:13] ay [36:13] yung [36:13] actual [36:14] but [36:15] how [36:15] capable [36:16] is [36:16] the [36:17] person [36:17] pretending [36:18] to be [36:20] a [36:20] living [36:21] and [36:21] ordinary [36:21] life [36:22] kasi [36:23] yun [36:23] naman [36:23] talaga [36:24] yung [36:24] kanilang [36:25] pinapakilala [36:26] sa [36:26] kanilang [36:27] sa [36:27] mga [36:27] mamamayan [36:28] na [36:29] simpleng [36:29] buhay [36:30] simpleng [36:31] tao [36:32] lang po [36:32] sila [36:33] pero [36:33] kung simpleng [36:34] tao po [36:34] sila [36:35] paano po [36:36] kayang [36:36] paano po [36:37] nila [36:37] kaya [36:38] ito [36:38] na [36:38] ganitong [36:38] gumastos [36:39] balikan [36:40] ho [36:40] natin [36:41] kaya [36:41] po [36:41] nila [36:42] dahil [36:42] may [36:42] 817 [36:44] po [36:44] million [36:45] pesos [36:45] na [36:45] hindi [36:46] nila [36:46] ma-explain [36:47] baka [36:47] naman [36:48] kaya [36:48] ganun [36:49] ang [36:49] kanilang [36:51] paggagasta [36:51] ay [36:52] capable [36:53] sila [36:54] ngayon [36:54] kung [36:55] na-explain [36:55] po [36:55] yung [36:55] 817 [36:56] kung [36:57] negosyante [36:58] naman [36:58] talaga [36:58] na [36:59] legitimate [36:59] negosyante [37:01] wala [37:01] naman [37:01] problema [37:02] dun [37:02] kaso [37:03] may tanong [37:03] sa iyo [37:04] meron kang [37:05] unexplained [37:05] wealth [37:06] ayaw mo [37:07] naman [37:08] i-accept [37:08] dinideny [37:09] mo [37:09] naman [37:09] yun [37:09] tingnan [37:10] natin [37:10] ang [37:11] iyong [37:11] lifestyle [37:12] yung [37:13] lifestyle [37:13] mo [37:13] talagang [37:14] pang [37:15] milyonaryo [37:15] so [37:16] saan mo [37:17] nakukuha [37:17] yung [37:17] million [37:18] mo [37:18] may [37:19] katanungan [37:20] na [37:20] 817 [37:21] million [37:21] na [37:21] hindi [37:21] mo [37:21] ma-explain [37:22] conservative [37:23] pa [37:23] yun [37:23] that's [37:24] actually [37:24] the [37:25] whole [37:25] report [37:27] of [37:27] attorney [37:28] cabrera [37:28] example [37:29] lang [37:29] po [37:29] yun [37:30] now [37:30] ang [37:31] in-expect [37:31] po [37:32] namin [37:32] ay mag-provide [37:34] po sila [37:34] o mag-present [37:35] po sila [37:35] ng mga [37:36] witnesses [37:36] na [37:37] ma-explain [37:38] niya [37:38] at [37:39] magpabulaanan [37:42] niya [37:42] yung [37:43] 817 [37:44] million [37:44] na hindi [37:45] maipaliwanag [37:46] habang [37:47] hindi po [37:48] yan [37:48] makakahabang [37:49] hindi po [37:50] sila [37:50] makakaprovide [37:51] ng testigo [37:52] na magbabangga [37:53] doon sa [37:54] 817 [37:55] million [37:56] that [37:57] would [37:57] remain [37:58] to be [37:59] an [37:59] unexplained [38:00] wealth [38:00] and [38:01] that [38:01] would [38:01] remain [38:01] to be [38:02] a [38:02] strong [38:03] case [38:03] of [38:04] the [38:04] prosecution [38:04] na [38:05] talagang [38:06] hindi [38:06] maipaliwanag [38:08] itong [38:08] tagong [38:09] yaman [38:09] na ito [38:10] So [38:11] meron po bang [38:12] pag-divert [38:13] nung issue [38:14] kasi kanina [38:15] pinalalabas [38:16] na yun nga [38:16] po parang [38:17] sinasabi ninyo [38:18] nahayaan na lang [38:18] yung mga [38:19] atleta [38:20] and may isang [38:20] senator [38:21] judge po [38:22] kanina [38:22] na nagsasabi [38:23] na tingnan nyo [38:23] muna [38:24] ang inyong [38:24] mga kasamahan [38:25] bago daw [38:25] kumahol [38:26] dyan daw [38:28] sa camera [38:28] ay may [38:29] mga nakasasakyang [38:31] magagara [38:32] at may [38:32] 16 to [38:33] 22 [38:34] million [38:35] pesos [38:35] I'll answer you that [38:36] Okay [38:37] we agree [38:38] but [38:39] can you point us [38:40] doon sa mga senador [38:41] na sinasabi [38:42] tumutulong [38:43] meron ba silang [38:44] unexplained wealth [38:44] meron ba silang [38:47] tagong nyaman [38:48] yun ang punto [38:49] example lang po [38:51] yun [38:51] ang may [38:52] kakayahan [38:53] na gumasta [38:54] ng ganito [38:54] na hindi [38:56] magmamatter [38:57] o hindi [38:57] issue [38:58] sa kanya [38:59] ay yung [38:59] may [39:00] mga [39:00] milyonaryo [39:01] na [39:01] pero [39:02] ang tanong [39:03] kung [39:03] milyonaryo ka [39:04] wala naman [39:04] masama [39:05] wala naman [39:06] talaga [39:07] masama [39:07] kung kaya [39:08] mo [39:08] since [39:09] kaya pala [39:09] ni [39:09] attorney [39:10] man [39:10] scarpeo [39:10] sir [39:13] meron [39:13] pong [39:14] unexplained [39:14] wealth [39:14] dito [39:15] na [39:15] 817 [39:16] million [39:16] pesos [39:17] yun [39:17] naman [39:18] po [39:18] ang [39:18] huwag [39:18] nating [39:19] tanggalin [39:20] sa picture [39:20] ngayon [39:21] kung may [39:22] mga [39:22] politician [39:22] halimbawa [39:23] na may [39:23] unexplained [39:24] wealth [39:25] talagang [39:26] kailangan [39:26] din nila [39:29] the unexplained [39:30] wealth [39:30] and that's [39:31] just [39:31] an [39:31] example [39:32] how [39:33] because [39:34] of [39:34] their [39:35] cost [39:35] of [39:35] living [39:35] probably [39:36] it [39:37] raises [39:37] an [39:39] eyebrow [39:41] raising [39:41] question [39:44] na [39:45] paliwanag [39:46] mo [39:46] itong [39:47] 817 [39:48] kaya [39:49] kaya [39:49] mo [39:49] gumasta [39:51] na ganito [39:52] in [39:52] one [39:52] upuan [39:53] ng [39:53] 200 [39:54] that's [39:54] actually [39:54] the [39:55] whole [39:55] point [39:55] of [39:55] the [39:55] report [39:56] at [39:57] hindi [39:58] po [39:58] sinasabi [39:58] na [39:59] wag [39:59] suportahan [40:00] yung mga [40:00] ating [40:00] mga [40:00] atleta [40:01] that's [40:01] beside [40:02] the [40:02] point [40:02] you're [40:03] actually [40:03] hitting [40:04] a wrong [40:04] you're [40:05] barking [40:05] at the [40:05] wrong [40:05] tree [40:06] the [40:06] whole [40:06] point [40:07] here [40:07] is [40:07] that [40:07] since [40:08] he's [40:08] capable [40:09] of [40:09] spending [40:10] that [40:11] much [40:11] then [40:12] probably [40:12] he can [40:13] explain [40:13] also [40:14] the [40:15] 817 [40:15] million [40:16] pesos [40:17] na up to [40:18] now [40:18] ay hindi [40:19] lila [40:19] may [40:19] paliwanag [40:20] sana yun [40:21] na lang [40:21] yung [40:22] naging [40:22] punto [40:23] ng [40:24] defense [40:25] ngayon [40:25] sa [40:25] pagpapaliwanag [40:26] doon [40:26] and even [40:27] Senator [40:28] Migs [40:28] Subiri [40:28] said [40:30] natin [40:30] doon [40:31] natin [40:32] tayo [40:32] mag [40:32] concentrate [40:33] tapos [40:33] hindi [40:34] naman [40:34] natin [40:35] tayo [40:35] ang [40:36] nag [40:36] present [40:36] ng [40:36] mga [40:36] witnesses [40:37] by the [40:39] way [40:40] ang [40:40] depensa [40:40] sila [40:42] pong [40:42] nag [40:42] present [40:42] ng [40:42] mga [40:42] witnesses [40:43] yun [40:43] po [40:43] yung [40:43] sinasabi [40:45] in [40:45] explain [40:45] po [40:45] ni [40:46] attorney [40:46] jay [40:46] to [40:46] loza [40:46] kanina [40:47] last [40:48] na lang [40:48] po [40:48] super [40:48] last [40:49] so [40:50] dahil [40:51] pabawas [40:51] po [40:52] ng [40:52] pabawas [40:52] yung [40:52] 24 [40:53] witnesses [40:54] if [40:54] I'm [40:55] not [40:55] mistaken [40:55] na [40:56] in [40:57] list [40:57] ng [40:58] defense [40:58] kabilang [41:00] na nga [41:00] po [41:00] yung [41:01] mga [41:01] bank [41:01] representatives [41:03] so [41:03] patapos [41:05] na po [41:05] ba [41:05] tayo [41:06] kasi [41:06] kanina [41:06] binabanggit [41:07] nyo [41:07] kanina [41:07] nagpapanik [41:08] na rin [41:08] po [41:08] yung [41:09] defense [41:09] at [41:09] nagre-strategize [41:11] na po [41:11] sila [41:12] dahil [41:12] talagang [41:13] patapos [41:14] na po [41:14] itong [41:14] impeachment [41:15] trial [41:15] kanina [41:18] the [41:19] presiding [41:21] officer [41:21] asked [41:21] the [41:22] defense [41:22] how [41:22] many [41:23] more [41:23] witnesses [41:23] do [41:24] they [41:24] intend [41:24] to [41:24] present [41:24] for [41:25] this [41:25] sole [41:26] article [41:26] of [41:27] unexplained [41:27] wealth [41:27] ang sinabi [41:28] ho [41:28] ng [41:28] depensa [41:29] they'll [41:29] be [41:30] presenting [41:30] 8 [41:31] to [41:31] 10 [41:31] witnesses [41:32] more [41:33] so [41:33] hopefully [41:35] my next [41:36] week [41:36] since [41:37] whole day [41:38] hearings [41:38] naman [41:39] nang [41:39] meron [41:39] next [41:40] thursday [41:41] and friday [41:41] sinabihan [41:42] ho [41:42] sila [41:42] ng [41:42] presiding [41:43] officer [41:44] na [41:44] make [41:45] sure [41:45] mag [41:46] name [41:46] sila [41:46] ng [41:46] substantial [41:47] number [41:47] of [41:48] witnesses [41:48] para [41:49] to [41:49] make [41:49] most [41:49] out [41:50] of [41:50] those [41:50] two [41:51] days [41:51] para [41:51] masulit [41:52] natin [41:52] dahil [41:52] nga [41:53] example [41:53] tulad [41:54] nitong [41:54] linggo [41:54] meron [41:57] pa tayong [41:57] buong [41:58] hapon [41:58] today [41:58] meron [41:59] pa tayong [42:00] bukas [42:00] na hindi [42:01] nagamit [42:02] so [42:03] hopefully [42:03] ma-maximize [42:04] yung [42:05] two days [42:06] dahil [42:06] mukhang [42:07] yan na [42:08] lamang [42:08] ang [42:08] natitirang [42:09] hearing [42:10] dates [42:11] for [42:11] november [42:12] at [42:12] ang [42:12] susunod [42:13] ay [42:13] december [42:14] na [42:14] so [42:14] sana [42:15] ma-maximize [42:16] yan [42:16] para [42:17] maubos [42:17] na natin [42:18] itong [42:18] 8 [42:18] to [42:18] 10 [42:19] then [42:19] we [42:19] can [42:19] wrap [42:20] it [42:20] up [42:20] at [42:21] again [42:22] hindi [42:23] na [42:23] hoto [42:23] magtagal [42:24] longer [42:25] than [42:25] what's [42:25] necessary [42:26] okay [42:29] thank [42:29] you [42:29] haji [42:29] so [42:31] yeah [42:31] kindly [42:32] pass [42:32] the mic [42:33] haji [42:33] short [42:39] follow [42:39] up [42:39] lang [42:39] po [42:40] dun [42:41] sa [42:41] 8 [42:41] to [42:41] 10 [42:42] witnesses [42:42] na [42:42] nga [42:42] lang [42:43] po [42:43] sinabi [42:43] po [42:43] kanina [42:44] ni [42:44] attorney [42:45] michael [42:45] po [42:45] na [42:46] 4 [42:47] to [42:47] 5 [42:47] points [42:48] na [42:48] lang [42:48] daw [42:48] nung [42:49] forensic [42:49] report [42:50] ni [42:50] ng [42:51] expert [42:52] witness [42:52] ninyo [42:53] yung [42:53] kailangan [42:53] nilang [42:54] i-address [42:54] with [42:56] the [42:56] comprehensive [42:57] report [42:57] given [42:58] by [42:58] your [42:59] expert [43:00] witness [43:00] ano pong [43:01] masasabi [43:01] nyo [43:02] dito [43:02] 4 [43:03] to [43:03] 5 [43:03] points [43:04] na [43:04] nga [43:04] lang [43:04] ba [43:04] talaga [43:04] yung [43:04] kailangan [43:05] i-challenge [43:06] ng [43:06] defense [43:06] Well [43:09] silang makakasagot [43:10] dun [43:10] dahil [43:11] I mean [43:12] ako hindi ko alam [43:12] kung ano na yung [43:13] na-address nila [43:14] kung sabi nilang [43:15] 4 to 5 [43:16] na lang [43:16] but [43:16] again [43:17] sila ho'y [43:18] makakasagot [43:19] dun [43:19] kung ano yung [43:19] sa tingin [43:20] nilang [43:20] points [43:22] nasasagot [43:23] din itong [43:23] mga [43:23] natitirang [43:24] witness [43:24] nila [43:24] then [43:24] let's see [43:26] that's why [43:27] we were hoping [43:28] to hear [43:29] already [43:29] yung identity [43:30] ng mga [43:31] witnesses [43:31] na to [43:32] but [43:32] sa [43:33] Saturday [43:33] pa daw [43:34] nila [43:34] sasabihin [43:36] hopefully [43:37] hindi magka [43:37] problema [43:38] dahil [43:38] Saturday [43:39] of course [43:40] wala akong [43:41] trabaho yan [43:42] tapos [43:43] asean [43:43] holiday [43:44] din dito [43:45] sana hindi magka [43:46] problema [43:46] sa pag-serve [43:47] ng mga [43:47] sabina [43:48] kasi baka [43:49] maging issue [43:50] pa [43:50] pagdating ng [43:50] Thursday [43:51] walang [43:51] witness [43:52] dahil [43:52] hindi na [43:52] serve [43:52] so sana [43:53] hindi naman [43:53] dahil again [43:54] 2 days [43:55] na lang [43:55] natitira [43:55] so [43:56] I mean [43:57] at least [43:57] for the [43:57] month [43:58] para [43:58] hindi [43:59] umantala [43:59] yung [44:00] hearing [44:00] at [44:00] again [44:01] mapresenta [44:02] na nila [44:02] itong [44:02] natitirang [44:03] 8 to 10 [44:03] witnesses [44:04] nila [44:04] sana [44:06] I hope [44:06] na yung [44:07] mga susunod [44:08] ng mga [44:08] witnesses [44:09] nila [44:09] hindi [44:10] ang marinig [44:12] natin [44:13] ay wala [44:13] kong alam [44:14] hindi [44:14] ko alam [44:15] or I [44:16] do not [44:16] know [44:16] sana [44:18] hindi na [44:20] ho natin [44:20] marinig [44:21] yun [44:21] sa mga [44:21] susunod [44:22] ng mga [44:22] distigo [44:22] nila [44:23] all right [44:27] um [44:28] daneska [44:29] good afternoon [44:30] sir [44:31] daneska [44:31] panting [44:31] germanius [44:32] online [44:32] sir [44:34] yung [44:34] sa [44:34] dollar [44:35] accounts [44:35] lang [44:36] we're [44:38] aware [44:39] that [44:39] merong [44:40] foreign [44:40] currency [44:40] deposit [44:41] absolute [44:42] confidentiality [44:43] but [44:44] was the [44:45] prosecution [44:45] able [44:46] to [44:46] include [44:47] in its [44:47] offer [44:48] of [44:48] evidence [44:48] dollar [44:49] accounts [44:49] of the [44:50] vice [44:50] president [44:50] and [44:51] her [44:51] husband [44:51] we asked [44:53] for [44:54] subpoena [44:54] regarding [44:56] to dollar [44:56] accounts [44:57] but [44:57] you'll [44:57] remember [44:57] that [44:58] was not [44:58] allowed [44:59] by the [44:59] court [44:59] specifically [45:00] because [45:01] of that [45:02] secrecy [45:04] that you've [45:05] mentioned [45:05] so [45:05] wala [45:07] hong [45:07] documents [45:08] relating [45:09] to the [45:09] specific [45:10] bank [45:10] accounts [45:11] follow up [45:15] to that [45:15] may [45:15] sinasabi [45:16] ni [45:17] senator [45:18] judge [45:18] Zubiri [45:19] yung [45:19] foreign [45:20] remittances [45:21] that [45:21] went [45:22] to [45:22] Calye 88 [45:23] to clarify [45:24] those [45:25] were [45:25] based [45:26] on [45:26] the [45:26] AMLOC [45:27] records [45:27] but [45:30] yung [45:30] bank [45:31] accounts [45:33] pertaining [45:34] to [45:34] those [45:34] anong [45:35] laman [45:35] yan [45:35] magkano [45:36] lahat [45:36] ng [45:36] laman [45:36] yan [45:37] yan [45:37] yung [45:37] hindi [45:38] natin [45:38] nakita [45:38] dahil [45:39] hindi [45:39] napasab [45:39] pina [45:40] okay [45:40] so [45:41] for [45:41] yung [45:42] well [45:43] foreign [45:44] remittances [45:44] based [45:45] on [45:45] AMLOC [45:45] records [45:46] that [45:47] went [45:47] to [45:48] Calye 88 [45:48] kasama [45:49] yun [45:49] sa [45:50] offer [45:50] of [45:50] evidence [45:51] ng [45:51] prosecution [45:51] that's [45:52] correct [45:52] because [45:53] the [45:53] AMLOC [45:53] records [45:54] were [45:54] admitted [45:55] in [45:55] evidence [45:55] by [45:55] the [45:56] court [45:56] okay [45:56] sir [45:57] yung [45:58] next [45:59] question [45:59] ko [45:59] po [46:00] kasi [46:00] yun [46:01] nga [46:01] wala [46:01] silang [46:01] declared [46:02] na [46:02] cash [46:02] 2019 [46:03] to [46:03] 2025 [46:04] sa [46:05] SALN [46:06] and yet [46:07] they [46:07] made [46:08] these [46:08] purchases [46:09] at least [46:09] yung [46:10] tinestify [46:12] na lang [46:12] kanina [46:13] na [46:13] Nike [46:14] over [46:15] 400,000 [46:16] pesos [46:16] would [46:17] you say [46:18] na [46:18] how [46:20] can [46:21] how [46:22] can [46:22] they [46:22] make [46:23] those [46:24] purchases [46:24] if [46:25] they [46:25] said [46:25] they [46:26] had [46:26] no [46:27] cash [46:27] on [46:27] hand [46:28] and [46:29] in [46:29] bank [46:29] would [46:30] that [46:30] be [46:31] a [46:31] logical [46:31] question [46:32] or [46:33] conclusion [46:33] well [46:38] actually [46:38] they [46:38] did [46:38] not [46:39] say [46:39] they [46:40] did [46:40] not [46:40] declare [46:41] so [46:42] yun [46:42] ang [46:42] claim [46:44] namin [46:44] that's [46:46] why [46:46] it's [46:46] unexplained [46:47] up to [46:48] now [46:48] the [46:48] explanation [46:49] should [46:49] come [46:49] from [46:50] them [46:50] so [46:52] sila [46:52] nagpresenta [46:53] ng [46:53] witnesses [46:54] and [46:55] we [46:55] were [46:56] thinking [46:56] na [46:56] sana [46:56] may [46:57] present [46:57] nila [46:57] yung [46:58] mga [46:58] witnesses [46:58] kung [46:59] paano [46:59] mag [46:59] explain [47:00] na [47:00] kayang [47:00] kaya [47:01] nila [47:01] from [47:02] their [47:02] legally [47:02] lawfully [47:04] income [47:05] from [47:06] their [47:06] lawful [47:06] income [47:07] eh [47:08] kaso [47:08] wala [47:09] daw [47:09] silang [47:10] atang [47:10] cash [47:11] on [47:11] hand [47:12] in [47:12] cash [47:12] and [47:12] bank [47:12] so [47:13] it [47:13] bears [47:14] the [47:14] question [47:14] now [47:15] paano [47:16] nyo [47:16] nakakayanan [47:17] yung [47:17] kano [47:19] cost [47:20] of [47:20] living [47:20] sir [47:24] may [47:25] ano [47:25] kasi [47:26] at least [47:27] yung [47:27] mga [47:28] senator [47:28] judges [47:28] was also [47:29] pointing [47:29] this [47:30] out [47:30] na [47:30] ang [47:31] liit [47:31] lang [47:31] nito [47:32] in [47:32] the [47:33] scheme [47:33] of [47:34] things [47:34] maliit [47:34] siya [47:34] but [47:35] for [47:35] most [47:37] of [47:37] the [47:38] people [47:38] in [47:38] this [47:39] room [47:39] it's [47:40] a [47:40] huge [47:41] amount [47:41] so [47:42] how [47:42] do [47:42] you [47:42] address [47:43] that [47:44] you [47:44] know [47:44] parang [47:45] aversion [47:45] in [47:47] discussing [47:48] 200,000 [47:49] purchases [47:51] lang [47:51] na [47:52] maliit [47:52] lang [47:53] so [47:54] we [47:54] should [47:54] shelve [47:55] it [47:56] and [47:56] focus [47:57] on [47:57] other [47:57] things [47:58] how [47:59] do [47:59] you [47:59] address [47:59] that [47:59] well [48:00] maybe [48:00] in [48:01] fairness [48:01] to [48:01] the [48:02] senator [48:02] judges [48:03] no [48:03] they [48:04] were [48:04] referring [48:05] to [48:06] the [48:06] whole [48:08] picture [48:08] 817 [48:11] million [48:12] as [48:13] compared [48:13] or [48:14] vis-a-vis [48:15] dito [48:15] nga [48:16] sa [48:16] 200,000 [48:18] so [48:18] kumbaga [48:19] what they [48:19] wanted [48:19] to hear [48:20] is [48:20] yung [48:22] explanation [48:22] doon [48:23] sa [48:24] tinestify [48:26] ng aming [48:26] testigo [48:27] na [48:27] forensic [48:28] expert [48:29] na si [48:29] attorney [48:30] cabrera [48:30] na [48:31] merong [48:32] undeclared [48:33] amount [48:34] with [48:36] more or [48:37] less [48:37] 817 [48:39] million [48:40] so [48:41] yun [48:41] ang [48:41] gustong [48:41] marinig [48:42] ng mga [48:43] senator [48:43] judges [48:44] I think [48:46] if [48:46] you [48:46] if [48:47] you're [48:47] a [48:47] person [48:47] who [48:48] earns [48:48] a [48:48] lot [48:49] lawfully [48:50] and [48:50] legally [48:50] who [48:51] is [48:51] not [48:52] facing [48:52] with [48:52] charges [48:53] of [48:53] unexplained [48:54] wealth [48:54] eh [48:55] wala [48:55] namang [48:56] problema [48:56] talaga [48:57] gumastos [48:58] at [48:59] mag-share [49:00] ng iyong [49:01] yaman [49:03] sa [49:03] tao [49:04] pero [49:05] ito [49:06] let's [49:06] put [49:07] things [49:07] into [49:07] its [49:08] right [49:08] perspective [49:09] these [49:09] are [49:10] the [49:10] people [49:10] or [49:10] this [49:11] the [49:11] respondent [49:12] in [49:12] her [49:12] husband [49:12] are [49:13] facing [49:14] charges [49:15] of [49:16] unexplained [49:17] wealth [49:17] hidden [49:18] wealth [49:18] so [49:20] dun po [49:22] dapat [49:22] yung [49:22] konteksto [49:23] na titignan [49:25] po natin [49:25] sinasabi [49:26] po nila [49:27] lawful [49:28] yung [49:28] kanilang [49:29] income [49:29] okay [49:29] assuming [49:30] that [49:30] lawful [49:30] income [49:31] balikan [49:31] po [49:31] natin [49:32] yung [49:32] kanilang [49:32] salin [49:32] again [49:33] ang [49:34] salin [49:34] po [49:34] nila [49:35] is [49:36] doon [49:36] sa [49:36] 2022 [49:38] up to [49:38] 2025 [49:39] wala [49:39] ho [49:39] daw [49:40] silang [49:40] ang [49:40] vice [49:41] president [49:41] bank [49:42] at [49:42] pera [49:43] sa [49:43] bank [49:43] o [49:43] wala [49:44] ho [49:44] din [49:44] silang [49:44] pera [49:45] cash [49:46] on [49:46] hand [49:46] at [49:47] sabi [49:47] legal [49:48] na [49:48] po [49:48] yung [49:48] kanilang [49:49] income [49:49] let's [49:50] go [49:50] about [49:51] with [49:51] the [49:51] corporation [49:52] ang [49:54] halimbawa [49:55] si [49:55] attorney [49:55] man [49:55] Scorpio [49:56] is [49:56] 45% [49:57] stocks [49:59] ang [49:59] kanyang [50:00] stocks [50:00] in [50:00] shareholding [50:01] niya [50:01] sa [50:02] isang [50:02] kumpanya [50:02] tapos [50:03] ang [50:04] kanilang [50:04] paid [50:04] up [50:05] capital [50:05] lang [50:05] is [50:05] 125 [50:06] pesos [50:07] tapos [50:08] may [50:08] remittances [50:09] and [50:09] explain [50:10] so [50:10] the [50:11] point [50:11] that [50:11] we [50:11] are [50:11] trying [50:12] to [50:12] convey [50:12] to [50:12] the [50:13] public [50:13] as [50:13] part [50:13] of [50:13] our [50:14] allegation [50:14] part [50:14] of [50:15] the [50:17] whether [50:18] or [50:18] not [50:18] it's [50:19] appropriate [50:21] or [50:22] it's [50:23] a [50:23] bad [50:24] thing [50:24] to [50:24] share [50:25] that's [50:25] not [50:25] the [50:25] point [50:25] the [50:26] point [50:26] is [50:27] whether [50:27] you [50:27] are [50:27] capable [50:28] of [50:28] spending [50:29] this [50:29] much [50:30] based [50:30] on [50:31] what [50:31] income [50:31] do [50:32] you [50:32] earn [50:33] monthly [50:34] and [50:34] if [50:34] you [50:34] are [50:34] facing [50:35] let's [50:35] again [50:35] put [50:36] go [50:37] back [50:37] to [50:37] the [50:37] real [50:37] case [50:38] of [50:38] the [50:38] merits [50:39] of [50:39] this [50:39] case [50:40] this [50:41] the [50:41] trial [50:43] is [50:43] about [50:43] unexplained [50:44] wealth [50:44] and [50:45] the [50:46] trial [50:46] is [50:46] about [50:47] how [50:47] to [50:48] give [50:48] some [50:49] example [50:49] why [50:50] attorney [50:51] man [50:51] Scorpio [50:51] and [50:52] the [50:52] vice [50:52] president [50:52] for [50:53] that [50:53] matter [50:53] can [50:54] spend [50:54] this [50:55] much [50:55] and [50:56] maintain [50:56] this [50:56] kind [50:56] of [50:57] lifestyle [50:57] if [50:58] they [50:58] continue [50:59] on [50:59] telling [51:00] the [51:00] people [51:01] and [51:01] portraying [51:01] themselves [51:02] as [51:02] ordinary [51:02] Filipino [51:03] cannot [51:06] relate [51:08] with [51:08] 200,000 [51:09] payment [51:11] for [51:11] one [51:11] dinner [51:12] setting [51:12] yun [51:14] po [51:14] yung [51:14] babalikan [51:14] natin [51:15] these [51:15] are [51:15] just [51:15] example [51:16] and [51:17] sila [51:18] po [51:18] ay [51:20] may [51:20] kaso [51:20] ng [51:20] unexplained [51:21] it [51:21] sa [51:21] trial [51:21] ito [51:22] unexplained [51:22] wealth [51:23] and [51:23] undeclared [51:24] assets [51:25] and [51:25] undeclared [51:26] wealth [51:26] saka [51:29] paano [51:29] po [51:29] kayo [51:29] maniniwala [51:30] na [51:30] sinasabi [51:31] nilang [51:31] mga [51:32] maliliit [51:32] ibigay ko [51:34] po [51:34] ka [51:34] na [51:34] isang [51:34] halimbawa [51:35] yung [51:35] sinasabi [51:36] nilang [51:36] loose [51:38] investment [51:39] na [51:40] 48,000 [51:41] 48,000 [51:44] daw [51:44] pinabalik [51:45] lang [51:45] yung [51:46] investment [51:47] hindi [51:49] pa [51:49] kayo [51:49] napaisip [51:50] na [51:51] ang [51:52] negosyo [51:52] ng [51:52] 48,000 [51:53] ay [51:53] Jollibee [51:54] kayo [51:56] ba [51:56] makakabili [51:56] ng [51:56] prangkisa [51:57] ng [51:57] Jollibee [51:58] na [51:58] investment [51:59] mo [51:59] 48,000 [52:00] sige [52:01] nga [52:01] doon [52:03] makikita [52:03] natin [52:04] yung [52:04] logic [52:04] tapos [52:06] sabi [52:07] nga [52:07] nung [52:07] isang [52:07] senador [52:08] ang [52:08] galing [52:09] naman [52:09] na [52:09] mga [52:09] to [52:10] yung [52:10] 48,000 [52:10] na [52:11] palago [52:11] naging [52:11] 2.1 [52:12] dapat [52:13] kunin [52:13] natin [52:13] i-hire [52:14] natin [52:14] gawin [52:14] natin [52:15] silang [52:15] manager [52:18] ng [52:19] maharlika [52:20] dahil [52:21] yung [52:21] maharlika [52:22] doon [52:22] hindi [52:22] kumikita [52:23] pero [52:24] come to [52:24] think [52:25] of it [52:25] ang [52:26] investment [52:27] mo [52:27] 48,000 [52:28] pero [52:29] ang [52:29] negosyo [52:29] mo [52:30] Jollibee [52:30] kahit [52:31] 46,000 [52:33] kahit [52:33] sabihin mo [52:34] pang [52:34] isang [52:34] prangkisa [52:35] lang [52:35] yung [52:36] sinasabi [52:36] nila [52:37] yung [52:37] Times Square [52:38] sige nga [52:39] bibigyan ko [52:40] kayo [52:41] ng [52:41] 48,000 [52:41] bigyan [52:42] nga [52:42] ako [52:42] ng [52:42] prangkisa [52:43] ng [52:43] Jollibee [52:45] bukas [52:45] diba [52:47] so [52:49] dito [52:49] makikita [52:49] na [52:50] natin [52:50] yung [52:50] there is [52:52] something [52:52] wrong [52:53] sir [53:04] ano [53:13] nalang [53:13] having [53:14] made [53:14] this [53:14] sorry [53:16] parang [53:16] napaano [53:17] rin [53:17] ako [53:17] yung [53:18] sinabi [53:18] kasing [53:18] kapitalist [53:20] that's [53:20] the [53:21] investment [53:21] 48,000 [53:22] and the [53:23] gen [53:23] corp [53:24] is [53:24] I [53:24] think [53:24] the [53:24] one [53:25] that [53:25] is [53:25] now [53:25] on [53:26] five [53:26] yeah [53:27] paying [53:27] out [53:27] kung [53:29] if [53:29] they [53:29] will [53:30] pursue [53:31] that [53:31] line [53:32] of [53:32] that [53:33] kind [53:33] of [53:33] narrative [53:34] I [53:35] think [53:35] that [53:35] we [53:35] also [53:36] consulted [53:36] some [53:36] lawyers [53:37] sinasabi [53:37] that [53:38] all [53:38] companies [53:38] and [53:39] corporations [53:39] have [53:40] certified [53:42] to [53:42] also [53:43] accept [53:43] investments [53:44] may [53:45] mga [53:46] company [53:46] na [53:46] meron [53:47] talagang [53:47] they [53:47] can [53:48] also [53:48] receive [53:48] investment [53:49] but [53:49] not [53:49] all [53:50] so [53:50] the [53:50] question [53:51] is [53:51] is [53:51] gen [53:51] corp [53:52] has [53:53] also [53:53] that [53:53] status [53:54] or [53:54] certification [53:55] to accept [53:57] investments [53:57] so [53:58] if [53:58] they [53:58] pursue [53:58] that [53:59] line [53:59] of [53:59] questioning [53:59] it [54:00] they [54:00] would [54:00] again [54:00] open up [54:01] a floodgate [54:02] of [54:02] inquiries [54:03] that [54:03] that [54:03] they [54:04] could [54:04] not [54:04] probably [54:05] handle [54:05] again [54:05] so [54:06] I [54:06] also [54:09] asked [54:09] lawyers [54:10] are [54:11] all [54:11] companies [54:12] able [54:14] to [54:15] accept [54:16] investment [54:16] not [54:17] all [54:17] so [54:18] you [54:18] would [54:18] also [54:18] like [54:18] to [54:18] ask [54:19] again [54:20] whether [54:20] Gencorp [54:21] is [54:22] also [54:22] in [54:23] his [54:23] status [54:23] as [54:24] a [54:24] company [54:24] able [54:25] to [54:25] receive [54:26] investments [54:27] apart [54:28] from [54:28] the [54:28] shareholders [54:29] of [54:30] the [54:30] incorporators [54:31] just [54:34] to [54:35] be [54:35] safe [54:35] just [54:35] in [54:35] general [54:36] terms [54:36] I [54:37] think [54:37] what [54:37] Kong [54:38] is [54:38] referring [54:38] to [54:39] companies [54:40] cannot [54:41] sell [54:41] investment [54:42] contracts [54:43] without [54:43] specific [54:44] authorization [54:45] from [54:45] the [54:45] SEC [54:45] so [54:46] I [54:46] think [54:46] to [54:47] be [54:48] safe [54:48] general [54:49] terms [54:49] so [54:50] you [54:51] know [54:51] given [54:57] the [54:58] purchases [54:58] they [54:59] were [55:00] able [55:00] to [55:00] make [55:00] this [55:01] purchase [55:01] over [55:02] 400,000 [55:03] so [55:03] they [55:04] were [55:04] not [55:04] being [55:04] truthful [55:05] in [55:05] their [55:06] declaration [55:07] that [55:08] they [55:08] have [55:09] no [55:09] cash [55:09] on [55:10] hand [55:11] or [55:11] in [55:11] bank [55:11] would [55:12] that [55:12] be [55:12] correct [55:12] yeah [55:14] that's [55:15] it [55:15] thank you [55:17] okay [55:18] let's [55:19] you know [55:19] good [55:20] afternoon [55:20] small [55:21] chunks [55:21] long [55:21] and [55:22] follow [55:23] up [55:23] the [55:23] lead [55:26] prosecutor [55:27] jinky [55:28] luis [55:28] rupo [55:28] canina [55:29] sabi [55:29] nyo [55:29] in [55:29] expect [55:30] natin [55:30] dapat [55:30] today [55:30] list [55:31] of [55:32] fitness [55:32] from [55:32] the [55:32] defense [55:32] but [55:33] it [55:33] seems [55:33] like [55:33] they [55:34] still [55:34] need [55:34] up [55:34] until [55:34] saturday [55:35] sino [55:36] na [55:36] lang [55:36] po [55:36] gusto [55:36] nating [55:37] makita [55:37] from [55:38] that [55:38] list [55:38] who [55:42] from [55:42] john [55:42] corp [55:43] since [55:45] attorney [55:45] po [55:45] na [55:45] if [55:46] we [55:46] go [55:46] back [55:46] to [55:46] her [55:47] defense [55:48] well [55:51] again [55:51] discretion [55:52] naman [55:52] nyan [55:52] kusin [55:53] yung [55:53] papatawag [55:53] nila [55:53] na [55:54] witness [55:54] siguro [55:55] sabihin [55:55] ko [55:55] na [55:55] lang [55:56] is [55:56] yung [55:57] lahat [55:59] nang [55:59] inaasahan [56:00] na [56:00] ng [56:00] overwhelming [56:01] majority [56:02] ng [56:02] public [56:03] na [56:03] again [56:04] consistent [56:04] to [56:04] salat [56:05] na [56:05] surveys [56:05] at [56:06] hindi [56:06] lang [56:06] ang [56:07] publiko [56:07] ilang [56:08] beses [56:08] na [56:08] din [56:08] natin [56:09] narinig [56:09] yan [56:09] from [56:09] the [56:10] senator [56:10] judges [56:10] na [56:11] mukhang [56:11] makakapagbigay [56:12] ng [56:12] kaliwanagan [56:13] dito [56:14] sa mga [56:15] bagay [56:15] na [56:15] linahad [56:16] sa [56:16] kanyang [56:16] salin [56:16] yung [56:17] mismo [56:18] gumawa [56:19] pumirman [56:19] ng [56:19] salin [56:20] at [56:20] nagsubmit [56:21] hindi [56:21] si [56:21] presidente [56:22] but [56:22] at [56:22] end [56:22] of [56:22] the [56:23] day [56:23] discretion [56:23] nyan [56:24] kung [56:24] haharapin [56:24] na [56:25] itong [56:25] kaso [56:25] nyan [56:25] ng [56:25] personal [56:26] kung [56:27] he [56:27] will [56:28] choose [56:28] to [56:29] under [56:29] oath [56:30] give [56:30] an [56:30] explanation [56:31] regarding [56:31] these [56:31] matters [56:32] at [56:32] sasagutin [56:33] nyan [56:33] sa [56:34] harap [56:34] ng [56:34] publiko [56:35] decision [56:36] small [56:39] observation [56:40] lang [56:40] din [56:40] po [56:40] kanina [56:41] kasi [56:41] si [56:42] ati [56:42] marion [56:42] may [56:42] question [56:43] regarding [56:43] parang [56:45] nag-aapela [56:46] sa emosyon [56:46] ng [56:46] publiko [56:47] is it [56:48] also [56:48] safe [56:48] to [56:48] say [56:49] na [56:49] parang [56:49] may [56:49] diversionary [56:50] tactic [56:50] yung [56:51] strategy [56:51] ng [56:51] I think [56:52] kong [56:52] adjan [56:52] can [56:53] answer [56:53] this [56:53] yung [56:54] strategy [56:54] ng [56:54] defense [56:55] kanina [56:55] kasi [56:55] po [56:56] quoting [56:57] attorney [56:57] justin [56:58] gular [56:58] kanina [56:59] sabi [56:59] niya [56:59] naniniwala [57:00] na ba [57:00] ang [57:01] prosecution [57:01] na pumunta [57:02] sa [57:02] Kuala [57:02] Lumpur [57:03] si [57:04] attorney [57:04] man [57:05] Scorpio [57:05] when [57:05] in [57:05] fact [57:05] this [57:06] is [57:06] not [57:06] the [57:07] core [57:07] question [57:07] of [57:08] the [57:08] prosecution [57:08] kayo [57:09] nga [57:09] po [57:09] nag-presenta [57:10] that [57:10] there [57:10] are [57:10] expenses [57:11] in [57:11] Kuala [57:11] Lumpur [57:12] so [57:12] how [57:12] come [57:13] this [57:13] was [57:13] your [57:13] question [57:14] is [57:15] it [57:15] safe [57:16] to [57:16] say [57:16] not [57:16] diversionary [57:17] tactic [57:18] yung [57:18] way [57:19] of [57:19] presentation [57:20] 90 [57:20] sinasabi [57:21] po [57:21] namin [57:21] pang [57:21] So [57:24] they're [57:24] talking [57:24] to [57:24] their [57:25] followers [57:25] so [57:27] yun [57:27] po [57:27] yung [57:27] purpose [57:28] kaya [57:28] kita [57:28] mo [57:29] mamaya [57:30] yun [57:30] yun [57:30] laman [57:30] ng [57:31] So [57:31] and [57:36] we [57:36] didn't [57:37] understand [57:37] where that [57:37] was [57:38] coming [57:38] from [57:38] yung [57:39] naniniwala [57:40] na ba [57:40] dahil [57:40] nga [57:40] precisely [57:41] sinabi [57:42] na nga [57:42] ni [57:42] attorney [57:43] Robles [57:44] no need [57:45] to [57:45] show [57:45] those [57:45] photos [57:46] we're [57:46] stipulating [57:47] already [57:47] sabi [57:48] nga [57:49] nga [57:49] sige [57:49] nagstipulate [57:50] na [57:50] kami [58:01] from [58:02] nike [58:02] so [58:02] we [58:03] didn't [58:03] also [58:04] get [58:04] no [58:04] kung [58:04] ano [58:04] yung [58:05] paulit [58:05] ulit [58:05] naniniwala [58:06] na ba [58:06] gan [58:06] naniniwala [58:07] kami [58:07] talagang [58:07] pumunta [58:08] sa [58:08] Kalilumpur [58:09] at [58:09] talagang [58:09] binili [58:10] niyan [58:10] isahang [58:11] transaksyon [58:12] 250,000 [58:13] from [58:13] nike [58:14] so [58:14] we [58:15] didn't [58:16] quite [58:16] understand [58:16] that [58:18] ganito [58:19] lang [58:19] po [58:19] yan [58:20] sinasabi [58:21] po [58:21] natin [58:22] wala [58:22] naman [58:22] talaga [58:23] masama [58:24] sa [58:25] pagsuporta [58:26] sa [58:26] ating [58:27] mga [58:27] kabataan [58:28] wala [58:28] na [58:28] pong [58:28] masama [58:29] doon [58:29] wala [58:31] pong [58:31] masama [58:31] naman [58:32] libre [58:32] din [58:32] wala [58:33] pong [58:33] masama [58:33] doon [58:34] pero [58:35] kung [58:35] ang [58:35] isang [58:36] tao [58:36] ay [58:36] nahaharap [58:37] sa [58:37] unexplained [58:38] wealth [58:38] at [58:39] may [58:40] napakitang [58:41] maganda [58:44] yun [58:46] lang ba [58:46] ang [58:47] rason [58:47] para [58:47] baliwalain [58:48] po [58:48] natin [58:48] yung [58:49] pinakamalaking [58:49] kaso [58:50] which [58:51] is [58:51] unexplained [58:52] wealth [58:52] yun [58:53] lang [58:53] po [58:53] can [58:54] that [58:54] be [58:55] already [58:55] a [58:55] license [58:56] to [58:56] absolve [58:59] the [58:59] offenses [59:02] or [59:02] the [59:02] crimes [59:03] of [59:04] not [59:04] disclosing [59:05] the [59:05] real [59:05] assets [59:06] of [59:07] even [59:08] you [59:08] know [59:08] deceiving [59:10] the [59:10] government [59:11] that [59:12] they [59:12] don't [59:12] have [59:12] cash [59:13] in [59:13] hand [59:13] and [59:13] cash [59:14] in [59:15] bank [59:15] from [59:16] 2022 [59:17] up [59:17] to [59:17] 2025 [59:18] and [59:19] yet [59:19] they [59:20] are [59:20] capable [59:20] of [59:21] spending [59:21] as [59:22] much [59:22] as [59:22] 200,000 [59:24] in [59:24] one [59:24] dinner [59:24] setting [59:25] that [59:26] is [59:26] the [59:26] issue [59:26] well [59:29] you [59:29] can [59:29] say [59:29] that [59:30] all [59:32] right [59:33] thank [59:34] you [59:34] we [59:36] can [59:36] hear [59:36] one [59:36] last [59:37] question [59:37] from [59:37] Tina [59:38] good [59:39] afternoon [59:39] po [59:40] Tina [59:40] Maralik [59:40] from [59:40] the [59:41] Manila [59:41] Times [59:41] Sir [59:42] balikan ko [59:42] lang po [59:42] yung subjudice [59:43] cause [59:45] attorney [59:45] paulo [59:46] panelo [59:46] called [59:48] out [59:49] called out [59:50] the [59:50] senator [59:51] judges [59:51] po [59:52] yung [59:52] manner [59:52] of [59:52] questioning [59:53] nila [59:53] sa [59:53] witnesses [59:54] yesterday [59:55] sabi [59:56] niya [59:56] po [59:56] nang [59:56] mamaliit [59:57] daw po [59:57] si [59:57] senator [59:58] fitul [59:59] po [59:59] ng [59:59] witness [59:59] si [1:00:00] senator [1:00:00] kiko [1:00:01] pangilingan [1:00:01] pangilingan [1:00:02] naman daw po [1:00:02] misleading [1:00:03] magtanong [1:00:04] although [1:00:05] he's not [1:00:06] a [1:00:06] part of [1:00:08] defense [1:00:08] team [1:00:08] he is [1:00:09] the [1:00:09] spokesperson [1:00:10] of [1:00:10] the [1:00:10] vice [1:00:11] president [1:00:11] he is [1:00:11] an [1:00:12] alter [1:00:12] ego [1:00:12] so [1:00:13] do you [1:00:13] think [1:00:13] his [1:00:13] remarks [1:00:14] are [1:00:14] a [1:00:15] direct [1:00:15] attack [1:00:15] to [1:00:16] the [1:00:16] senate [1:00:16] impeachment [1:00:16] court [1:00:17] dapat na po [1:00:17] ba [1:00:18] siyang [1:00:18] call [1:00:18] out [1:00:19] paano [1:00:20] yung [1:00:20] mga [1:00:20] senador [1:00:21] na [1:00:21] nag-aabogado [1:00:22] sa [1:00:23] respondent [1:00:24] bakit [1:00:25] hindi [1:00:26] niya [1:00:26] i-call [1:00:26] out [1:00:26] din [1:00:26] yun [1:00:27] yes [1:00:34] he is [1:00:35] also [1:00:35] covered [1:00:36] by the [1:00:36] subjudice [1:00:37] rule [1:00:37] because [1:00:38] clear [1:00:38] don [1:00:38] kahit [1:00:39] hindi [1:00:39] ka [1:00:39] part [1:00:40] ng [1:00:40] either [1:00:41] defense [1:00:42] or [1:00:42] prosecution [1:00:43] counsel [1:00:44] but [1:00:46] since [1:00:46] he is [1:00:47] also [1:00:47] a [1:00:47] member [1:00:48] of [1:00:48] the [1:00:48] bar [1:00:48] subjudice [1:00:50] rule [1:00:50] kung [1:00:51] merong [1:00:51] violation [1:00:52] ng [1:00:52] SIPRA [1:00:53] rules [1:00:53] yan [1:00:54] so [1:00:54] he is [1:00:55] covered [1:00:55] as in fact [1:00:56] we've already [1:00:57] stated [1:00:57] we're looking [1:00:58] into the [1:00:58] statements [1:00:59] not just [1:00:59] of the [1:01:00] vice [1:01:01] president [1:01:01] herself [1:01:01] and even [1:01:02] her [1:01:03] spokesperson [1:01:03] dahil [1:01:04] nga [1:01:05] the [1:01:06] same [1:01:07] way [1:01:07] that [1:01:07] the [1:01:07] vice [1:01:08] president [1:01:08] has [1:01:08] been [1:01:09] repeatedly [1:01:09] attacking [1:01:09] the [1:01:10] integrity [1:01:10] of the [1:01:10] court [1:01:11] and the [1:01:11] proceedings [1:01:11] we've [1:01:12] also [1:01:12] heard [1:01:13] that [1:01:13] repeatedly [1:01:13] from [1:01:14] the [1:01:14] spokesperson [1:01:15] narinig [1:01:16] natin [1:01:16] yan [1:01:16] sinabi [1:01:17] niya [1:01:17] minamanipula [1:01:18] ng mga [1:01:19] senator [1:01:19] judges [1:01:20] itong [1:01:21] hearing [1:01:21] neto [1:01:22] narinig [1:01:22] pa [1:01:22] natin [1:01:23] yan [1:01:23] dinamay [1:01:26] pa [1:01:26] niya [1:01:26] si [1:01:26] attorney [1:01:27] michael [1:01:27] po [1:01:27] na [1:01:27] sinabi [1:01:28] niya [1:01:28] attorney [1:01:29] po [1:01:29] agreed [1:01:30] daw [1:01:30] dun [1:01:31] sa [1:01:31] ganong [1:01:31] sentiments [1:01:32] wherein [1:01:33] he was [1:01:33] called [1:01:33] out [1:01:34] by [1:01:34] attorney [1:01:34] po [1:01:35] na [1:01:35] sinabi [1:01:35] niya [1:01:35] hindi [1:01:36] yan [1:01:36] totoo [1:01:36] sa [1:01:38] mga [1:01:38] ganyang [1:01:38] statements [1:01:39] niya [1:01:39] attacking [1:01:40] the [1:01:40] integrity [1:01:41] of [1:01:41] the [1:01:42] court [1:01:42] at [1:01:42] recently [1:01:43] along [1:01:45] those [1:01:45] lines [1:01:45] paulit-ulit [1:01:46] naman [1:01:46] yan [1:01:47] kinu-question [1:01:48] niya [1:01:49] yung [1:01:49] mga [1:01:50] senator [1:01:52] judges [1:01:52] pati [1:01:54] itong [1:01:54] proceedings [1:01:54] na to [1:01:55] so [1:01:55] yes [1:01:56] kasama [1:01:57] ho [1:01:57] yung [1:01:57] mga [1:01:57] actions [1:01:58] niya [1:01:58] dun [1:01:58] sa [1:01:58] sinasabi [1:01:59] namin [1:01:59] we're [1:01:59] considering [1:02:00] and [1:02:00] that [1:02:02] will [1:02:02] take [1:02:03] appropriate [1:02:03] action [1:02:03] against [1:02:04] it [1:02:04] at [1:02:05] kung [1:02:05] mapapansin [1:02:06] po [1:02:06] ninyo [1:02:06] sila [1:02:08] nagsasalita [1:02:09] sila [1:02:10] against [1:02:10] the [1:02:11] impeachment [1:02:12] court [1:02:13] kami [1:02:14] with all [1:02:15] due respect [1:02:16] lahat naman [1:02:16] ng paggalang [1:02:17] ginagawa [1:02:17] naman [1:02:18] namin [1:02:18] pero [1:02:19] napapansin [1:02:19] ko [1:02:20] lang [1:02:20] lagi [1:02:20] lang [1:02:20] nabibigyan [1:02:23] ng [1:02:23] nai-issue [1:02:24] ng [1:02:25] subjudice [1:02:25] kami lang [1:02:26] hindi [1:02:28] hindi [1:02:29] naman po [1:02:30] sa [1:02:30] pero [1:02:30] never [1:02:31] naman po [1:02:31] kami [1:02:31] nagreklamo [1:02:32] so [1:02:33] ang ginagawa [1:02:33] po [1:02:33] namin [1:02:34] sinasagot [1:02:34] na lang [1:02:35] po [1:02:35] namin [1:02:35] yung [1:02:36] mga [1:02:36] subjudice [1:02:37] so [1:02:39] ako [1:02:40] sa tingin [1:02:40] ko [1:02:40] dapat [1:02:41] yung mga [1:02:41] ganyang [1:02:42] pananalita [1:02:43] lalong-lalong [1:02:43] na ikaw [1:02:44] ay isang [1:02:45] abogado [1:02:45] dapat [1:02:45] nag-iingat ka [1:02:47] precisely [1:02:59] siguro [1:03:00] kasi [1:03:00] minsan [1:03:01] may [1:03:01] mga [1:03:01] ibang [1:03:01] tao [1:03:01] they'll [1:03:02] try [1:03:02] to [1:03:02] push [1:03:02] the [1:03:03] envelope [1:03:03] pag [1:03:03] makikita [1:03:04] talaga [1:03:04] na [1:03:04] their [1:03:05] actions [1:03:06] are [1:03:06] not [1:03:07] being [1:03:07] called [1:03:08] out [1:03:08] hinayaan [1:03:09] lang [1:03:09] may [1:03:10] have [1:03:10] a sense [1:03:10] of [1:03:10] impunity [1:03:11] kaya [1:03:12] kaya [1:03:12] kaya [1:03:12] nga [1:03:12] we're [1:03:12] saying [1:03:13] it's [1:03:13] high [1:03:13] time [1:03:14] that [1:03:14] you [1:03:15] know [1:03:16] this [1:03:16] matters [1:03:16] be [1:03:17] acted [1:03:17] upon [1:03:18] kaya [1:03:19] nga [1:03:19] sinabi [1:03:19] namin [1:03:20] we're [1:03:20] currently [1:03:20] studying [1:03:22] all of [1:03:22] these [1:03:23] attacks [1:03:23] being [1:03:24] made [1:03:24] by their [1:03:26] camp [1:03:26] against [1:03:27] the [1:03:27] institution [1:03:27] impeachment [1:03:29] court [1:03:29] and [1:03:30] we [1:03:30] should [1:03:30] take [1:03:30] action [1:03:30] against [1:03:31] it [1:03:31] dahil [1:03:31] nga [1:03:31] again [1:03:32] ito [1:03:32] ho [1:03:33] yung [1:03:33] talagang [1:03:33] mas [1:03:33] seryoso [1:03:34] ng mga [1:03:35] statements [1:03:36] na [1:03:36] violations [1:03:37] of [1:03:37] judicial [1:03:38] rule [1:03:38] na [1:03:38] kailangan [1:03:38] talagang [1:03:39] mapigilan [1:03:39] dahil [1:03:40] ito [1:03:40] mind [1:03:40] conditioning [1:03:41] to [1:03:41] eh [1:03:41] para [1:03:42] dun [1:03:43] sa [1:03:43] mga [1:03:43] supporters [1:03:43] ng [1:03:44] vice [1:03:44] presidente [1:03:44] kung [1:03:45] sakali [1:03:46] na [1:03:47] ang [1:03:47] magiging [1:03:47] paghuhusga [1:03:48] dito [1:03:48] hindi [1:03:49] pabor sa [1:03:49] kanya [1:03:49] para [1:03:50] ngayon [1:03:50] pa [1:03:50] lang [1:03:51] kinukondisyon [1:03:51] na [1:03:52] sila [1:03:52] na [1:03:52] huwag paniwalaan [1:03:53] dahil [1:03:54] nag-aari-aariyan [1:03:55] lang naman [1:03:56] ng mga [1:03:56] senator [1:03:56] judges [1:03:57] tulad [1:03:57] ng [1:03:57] sabi [1:03:58] niya [1:03:58] minamanipula [1:03:59] lang [1:04:00] naman [1:04:00] hawak [1:04:01] lang [1:04:01] naman [1:04:02] ng [1:04:02] presidente [1:04:02] saruswela [1:04:04] lang [1:04:04] naman [1:04:05] to [1:04:05] so [1:04:05] they [1:04:06] will [1:04:06] reject [1:04:06] it [1:04:06] kaya [1:04:07] nga [1:04:07] yung [1:04:07] kanyang [1:04:08] klaseng [1:04:08] rhetoric [1:04:08] yan [1:04:09] dapat [1:04:09] ang [1:04:10] pinipigilan [1:04:10] yan [1:04:11] dapat [1:04:11] ang [1:04:11] sinasanksyon [1:04:12] so [1:04:13] that's [1:04:13] why [1:04:13] again [1:04:14] that's [1:04:14] why [1:04:14] we're [1:04:14] taking [1:04:15] this [1:04:15] seriously [1:04:15] and [1:04:16] we'll [1:04:16] take [1:04:16] the [1:04:17] appropriate [1:04:17] action [1:04:17] regarding [1:04:18] this [1:04:18] matter [1:04:18] I [1:04:20] think [1:04:22] both [1:04:22] panels [1:04:23] have [1:04:23] their [1:04:23] own [1:04:24] fair [1:04:24] share [1:04:25] of [1:04:25] from [1:04:28] the [1:04:29] senator [1:04:29] judges [1:04:30] na [1:04:31] hindi [1:04:35] lang [1:04:35] naman [1:04:35] po [1:04:36] may [1:04:36] mga [1:04:37] senator [1:04:37] judges [1:04:38] diyan [1:04:38] na [1:04:38] talagang [1:04:39] obvious [1:04:39] naman [1:04:39] po [1:04:40] yung [1:04:40] kanilang [1:04:40] kanilang [1:04:41] bias [1:04:44] na [1:04:45] if I [1:04:46] may [1:04:46] call [1:04:46] it [1:04:46] sorry [1:04:47] for [1:04:47] the [1:04:48] lack [1:04:48] of [1:04:48] better [1:04:49] term [1:04:49] pero [1:04:50] sa [1:04:50] prosecution [1:04:51] in fact [1:04:51] minapagalitan [1:04:52] nga [1:04:52] yung [1:04:53] prosecution [1:04:53] panel [1:04:54] eh [1:04:54] there [1:04:55] are [1:04:55] also [1:04:56] some [1:04:56] senators [1:04:56] that [1:04:56] cannot [1:04:57] contain [1:04:57] or [1:04:58] hide [1:04:58] their [1:04:58] disdain [1:04:59] so [1:05:00] wala [1:05:00] na [1:05:00] ho [1:05:00] wala [1:05:01] pong [1:05:01] naririnig [1:05:02] sa [1:05:02] amin [1:05:02] because [1:05:03] we [1:05:03] accept [1:05:03] that [1:05:03] as [1:05:04] a [1:05:04] matter [1:05:04] of [1:05:04] how [1:05:05] individual [1:05:06] senator [1:05:07] judges [1:05:07] interpret [1:05:08] and [1:05:08] appreciate [1:05:08] the [1:05:10] presentation [1:05:10] hindi [1:05:11] ho [1:05:11] kami [1:05:12] hindi [1:05:12] ho [1:05:12] namin [1:05:12] sila [1:05:13] kino [1:05:13] call [1:05:13] out [1:05:13] and [1:05:14] we [1:05:14] should [1:05:14] never [1:05:14] call [1:05:15] them [1:05:15] out [1:05:15] we [1:05:16] should [1:05:16] never [1:05:16] question [1:05:17] the [1:05:19] interpretation [1:05:21] and [1:05:21] appreciation [1:05:22] of [1:05:22] individual [1:05:23] senators [1:05:24] acting [1:05:25] as [1:05:26] judges [1:05:26] in this [1:05:27] impeachment [1:05:28] court [1:05:28] no [1:05:29] babalikan [1:05:30] ko lang [1:05:31] po [1:05:31] in the [1:05:31] previous [1:05:32] trial [1:05:33] days [1:05:33] hindi [1:05:34] ho [1:05:35] naman [1:05:35] din [1:05:35] natin [1:05:36] mablame [1:05:36] ang mga [1:05:37] senador [1:05:38] kung [1:05:38] exasperated [1:05:39] sila [1:05:40] sa [1:05:41] pag [1:05:42] hindi [1:05:44] ho [1:05:44] biro [1:05:44] na [1:05:44] umupo [1:05:45] doon [1:05:45] na [1:05:46] ilang [1:05:46] oras [1:05:47] din [1:05:47] tapos [1:05:47] ang [1:05:48] maririnig [1:05:48] mo [1:05:48] lang [1:05:48] sa [1:05:49] mga [1:05:49] witnesses [1:05:49] hindi [1:05:50] ko [1:05:50] alam [1:05:51] hindi [1:05:52] ko [1:05:52] maalaala [1:05:53] I [1:05:53] do [1:05:53] not [1:05:54] know [1:05:54] so [1:05:55] syempre [1:05:56] bilang [1:05:56] judges [1:05:57] gusto [1:05:57] nilang [1:05:58] malaman [1:05:58] ang [1:05:59] tamang [1:05:59] sagot [1:06:00] paano [1:06:00] ka [1:06:00] din [1:06:01] naman [1:06:02] mag [1:06:02] judge [1:06:02] kung [1:06:03] ang [1:06:03] basihan [1:06:03] mo [1:06:04] ay [1:06:04] hindi [1:06:04] alam [1:06:05] hindi [1:06:06] totoo [1:06:06] hindi [1:06:06] ko [1:06:07] maalaala [1:06:08] ang [1:06:08] gusto [1:06:08] nila [1:06:09] yung [1:06:10] aktual [1:06:10] na [1:06:10] sagot [1:06:11] so [1:06:11] that [1:06:11] they [1:06:11] can [1:06:12] also [1:06:12] be [1:06:13] assisted [1:06:13] on [1:06:13] how [1:06:14] they [1:06:14] exercise [1:06:16] their [1:06:17] constitutional [1:06:17] obligation [1:06:19] to [1:06:19] render [1:06:19] impassal [1:06:20] judgment [1:06:21] so [1:06:22] I [1:06:22] guess [1:06:22] yun [1:06:22] lang [1:06:22] po [1:06:23] yung [1:06:23] gusto [1:06:23] natin [1:06:23] let [1:06:24] us [1:06:24] we [1:06:25] may [1:06:25] not [1:06:25] agree [1:06:26] with [1:06:27] how [1:06:27] senator [1:06:28] judges [1:06:28] intervene [1:06:29] or ask [1:06:30] questions [1:06:31] but [1:06:32] at the [1:06:32] very [1:06:32] least [1:06:33] let [1:06:33] us [1:06:33] respect [1:06:34] them [1:06:34] as [1:06:35] senator [1:06:36] judges [1:06:37] all right [1:07:00] on that note [1:07:01] siguro [1:07:01] we can [1:07:03] call this [1:07:04] a day [1:07:05] kapasalamat [1:07:06] po tayo [1:07:06] sa ating [1:07:07] mga panel [1:07:08] ngayon [1:07:08] si [1:07:08] Kong Zia [1:07:10] si [1:07:11] Kong Joel [1:07:12] at si [1:07:12] attorney [1:07:12] Jay [1:07:13] sa ating [1:07:13] mga [1:07:13] kaibigan [1:07:14] sa media [1:07:14] sa ating [1:07:15] mga [1:07:15] kababayan [1:07:15] magpapos [1:07:16] po tayo [1:07:16] sumandali [1:07:17] pero [1:07:17] para [1:07:17] huwag [1:07:19] natin [1:07:19] makalimutan [1:07:19] ng [1:07:20] nangyari [1:07:20] ngayong [1:07:20] araw [1:07:20] na to [1:07:21] we will [1:07:21] be [1:07:21] showing [1:07:22] a brief [1:07:23] video [1:07:23] summary [1:07:24] of [1:07:24] the [1:07:24] trial [1:07:25] today [1:07:25] sa day [1:08:17] 43 [1:08:18] ng [1:08:18] impeachment [1:08:19] trial [1:08:19] nagpatuloy [1:08:20] ang [1:08:20] pagpresenta [1:08:21] ng [1:08:21] depensa [1:08:22] ng [1:08:22] kanilang [1:08:22] mga [1:08:22] testigo [1:08:23] bagong [1:08:24] testigo [1:08:25] bagong [1:08:25] usapin [1:08:26] sa [1:08:27] pagsisimula [1:08:27] ng [1:08:27] pagdinig [1:08:28] inihain [1:08:28] ng [1:08:29] depensa [1:08:29] bilang [1:08:29] witness [1:08:30] ang [1:08:30] kaibigan [1:08:35] kaklase [1:08:35] ni [1:08:36] Atty. [1:08:36] Carpio [1:08:36] sa [1:08:36] San Veda [1:08:37] Law School [1:08:38] at malapit [1:08:39] sa mag-asawang [1:08:39] Duterte [1:08:40] Carpio [1:08:40] layon [1:08:41] ng [1:08:41] testigo [1:08:42] na ipariwanag [1:08:42] ang bahagi [1:08:43] ng [1:08:43] ebilensyang [1:08:44] naunang [1:08:44] iprenisenta [1:08:45] ng [1:08:45] prosekusyon [1:08:46] tungkol [1:08:46] sa malalaking [1:08:47] gastos [1:08:48] ng [1:08:48] asawa [1:08:48] ng [1:08:48] bise [1:08:49] sa [1:08:49] ibang [1:08:49] bansa [1:08:50] Ito [1:09:00] ang [1:09:00] naunang [1:09:01] paliwanag [1:09:01] ng [1:09:01] testigo [1:09:02] tungkol [1:09:03] sa [1:09:03] mamahaling [1:09:03] dinner [1:09:03] na [1:09:04] nagreflect [1:09:04] bilang bahagi [1:09:05] ng [1:09:05] gastusin [1:09:06] ng [1:09:06] asawa [1:09:06] ng [1:09:07] bise [1:09:07] Ayon [1:09:08] kay [1:09:08] Andero [1:09:08] aabot [1:09:09] sa [1:09:09] 4,000 [1:09:11] pesos [1:09:12] ang [1:09:12] ambag [1:09:12] nito [1:09:12] sa [1:09:13] nasabing [1:09:13] dinner [1:09:14] Ngunit [1:09:15] nang [1:09:15] usisayin [1:09:16] ng [1:09:16] prosekusyon [1:09:17] ang [1:09:17] testigo [1:09:18] ito [1:09:18] ang [1:09:19] natuklasan [1:09:20] Alalim [1:09:29] ang [1:09:29] pinagsamahan [1:09:29] isa [1:09:30] sa [1:09:30] tagapagtanggol [1:09:31] at [1:09:31] tagasuporta [1:09:32] ng [1:09:32] bise [1:09:33] ang [1:09:33] witness [1:09:33] kahit [1:09:34] sa [1:09:34] mga [1:09:34] issue [1:09:35] nito [1:09:35] at [1:09:36] kahit [1:09:36] sa [1:09:37] pera [1:09:37] may [1:09:37] kaugnayan [1:09:38] din [1:09:38] Do you [1:09:40] remember [1:09:40] receiving [1:09:41] 580,000 [1:09:43] pesos [1:09:44] from [1:09:45] attorney [1:09:46] Carpio [1:09:46] in [1:09:47] July [1:09:47] 2020 [1:09:49] I [1:09:52] honestly [1:09:53] I [1:09:53] don't [1:09:53] recall [1:09:54] Tulad [1:09:55] Tula [1:09:55] mga [1:09:55] mga [1:09:55] naunang [1:09:55] testigo [1:09:56] ng [1:09:56] depensa [1:09:56] tila [1:09:57] nakalimutin [1:09:58] ang [1:09:58] witness [1:09:58] na [1:09:58] ito [1:09:59] Ngunit [1:10:00] iba [1:10:00] magsalita [1:10:00] ang [1:10:01] dokumento [1:10:01] ang [1:10:02] AMLOC [1:10:02] report [1:10:02] na [1:10:03] aalala [1:10:03] ang [1:10:04] lahat [1:10:04] Ito [1:10:05] naman [1:10:05] ay [1:10:05] ikinagulat [1:10:06] ng [1:10:06] depensa [1:10:07] May [1:10:07] we [1:10:08] know [1:10:08] how [1:10:08] the [1:10:08] prosecution [1:10:09] obtained [1:10:10] the [1:10:10] copy [1:10:10] of [1:10:10] the [1:10:11] attendance [1:10:12] record [1:10:13] Tina [1:10:14] malinaw [1:10:14] na malayo [1:10:15] sa [1:10:15] kayak [1:10:15] na [1:10:16] pamumuhay [1:10:16] na [1:10:16] gustong [1:10:17] ipakita [1:10:17] ng [1:10:18] lise [1:10:18] ang [1:10:18] totoo [1:10:18] lumalabas [1:10:19] na [1:10:20] marangya [1:10:20] at [1:10:20] magastos [1:10:21] ang [1:10:21] pamumuhay [1:10:21] nito [1:10:22] taliwas [1:10:23] na [1:10:23] nakasaad [1:10:23] sa [1:10:23] RA [1:10:24] 6713 [1:10:25] Kung [1:10:26] yung [1:10:26] asawa [1:10:27] ng [1:10:27] vice [1:10:28] president [1:10:28] ay [1:10:29] kayang [1:10:30] kumain [1:10:31] 200,000 [1:10:34] sa isang [1:10:35] meal [1:10:35] sa isang [1:10:36] kainan [1:10:36] sa isang [1:10:36] upuan [1:10:37] yan po [1:10:39] ba [1:10:39] ay [1:10:40] leading [1:10:40] a [1:10:41] modest [1:10:41] life [1:10:41] kaya [1:10:42] po [1:10:42] ba [1:10:42] ng [1:10:43] ating [1:10:43] mga [1:10:43] kababayan [1:10:44] na [1:10:46] kumain [1:10:47] sa isang [1:10:47] upuan [1:10:48] gagasto [1:10:50] ng [1:10:50] 200,000 [1:10:52] pesos [1:10:53] Sumunod na [1:10:54] sumalang [1:10:55] si [1:10:55] Chadrin Parian [1:10:56] nakasama [1:10:56] ni [1:10:57] Atty. [1:10:57] Man Scarpio [1:10:58] nang [1:10:58] mamili ito [1:10:59] ng mga [1:10:59] sapatos [1:11:00] sa [1:11:00] Nike [1:11:00] Pavilion [1:11:00] sa [1:11:01] Kuala [1:11:01] Lumpur [1:11:01] Malaysia [1:11:02] Ang [1:11:03] kabuwang [1:11:03] na [1:11:03] gastos [1:11:04] aabot [1:11:04] sa [1:11:04] lagpas [1:11:05] 250,000 [1:11:06] pesos [1:11:07] Tila [1:11:08] napakadaling [1:11:08] gumasta [1:11:09] para [1:11:09] sa [1:11:10] pamilya [1:11:10] ng [1:11:10] vice [1:11:10] Kahit [1:11:11] ano [1:11:11] paman [1:11:12] ang [1:11:12] purpose [1:11:13] ng [1:11:13] nasabing [1:11:13] gastusin [1:11:14] dapat [1:11:15] alinsunod [1:11:15] sa [1:11:15] batas [1:11:16] ang [1:11:16] batayan [1:11:17] Ang [1:11:17] mga [1:11:18] galawang [1:11:18] ito [1:11:18] ay [1:11:19] tila [1:11:19] taliwa [1:11:19] sa [1:11:20] simple [1:11:20] lifestyle [1:11:21] na [1:11:21] inilalahad [1:11:22] sa [1:11:22] RA-6730 [1:11:23] Isa [1:11:24] lamang [1:11:24] ito [1:11:24] sa [1:11:25] mga [1:11:25] kwestiyon [1:11:25] tukos [1:11:26] sa [1:11:26] biyahe [1:11:26] gastusin [1:11:28] at [1:11:28] higit [1:11:28] sa [1:11:28] lahat [1:11:29] ang [1:11:29] pinanggalingan [1:11:29] ng [1:11:30] mga [1:11:30] perang [1:11:30] ginagasta [1:11:31] Ito [1:11:32] ay [1:11:33] kailangang [1:11:33] ipaliwanag [1:11:34] sa [1:11:34] hukuman [1:11:35] at [1:11:35] sambayanan [1:11:36] sa [1:11:37] sa [1:11:38] sa [1:11:38] sa [1:11:39] sa [1:11:39] sa [1:11:40] sa [1:11:40] sa [1:11:40] sa