Lindsay Clancy's Phone Searched Hallucinations Five Days Before Her Children Died — Pt 43

[00:00:00] Speaker ?: Board on rise. [00:00:30] Speaker 1: We'll be in recess on this. [00:00:42] Speaker 2: Your Honor, for the purpose of the record, we return back to the trial of Commonwealth v. Lindsay Clancy, all parties are present, including the dependent and including the 18 jurors. [00:00:52] Speaker 3: All right. Mr. Reddington? Yes, Your Honor. Thank you. Morning. [00:00:57] Joseph Rabbit: Morning, sir. [00:00:58] Speaker 3: So, you are part of the prosecution team that handles the downloads of computers and cell phones and things like that, right? [00:01:12] Joseph Rabbit: Specifically mobile devices, sir, not computers. [00:01:14] Speaker 3: Mobile devices. Okay. And the other gentleman that testified, Paveo, is that his name? [00:01:19] Joseph Rabbit: Paveo, sir. [00:01:20] Speaker 3: Paveo. And he did the laptops that were found in the office, in the home, right? [00:01:26] Joseph Rabbit: Correct. No certifications. [00:01:28] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:01:29] Speaker 3: Now, the district attorney had asked you some questions about different searches that you had done on Celebrate and on Axiom. All your searches dealt with Lindsay's cell phone, right? [00:01:44] Joseph Rabbit: To clarify, sir, I did no searches on Axiom. [00:01:48] Speaker 3: Okay. You did searches on Celebrate. [00:01:52] Joseph Rabbit: It's the only forensic tool I use, correct? [00:01:54] Speaker 3: And basically, I'm just trying to get a handle on that you and your other brother or sister officers would examine, for example, the computers that were found in Patrick's office in the house, right? You didn't, but the other people did, right? [00:02:13] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. [00:02:14] Speaker 3: And then you got the computer, strike that, you got the cell phone that was Lindsay's cell phone, right? [00:02:22] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:02:23] Speaker 3: And you then did what's called an advanced logical of Lindsay's phone, is that right? [00:02:30] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. [00:02:31] Speaker 3: And what is an advanced logical? What does that mean? [00:02:34] Joseph Rabbit: It's an extraction that utilizes the iTunes backup of an iOS device and it acquires most of the user-facing content, meaning calls, texts, images, browser history. [00:02:48] Speaker 3: Okay. So you lost me on user-facing. What does that mean? [00:02:51] Joseph Rabbit: What the user sees when they're using the phone. [00:02:55] Speaker 3: Okay. So, like, if you pick up a phone and you open it up, then that's your interfacing with the phone and you're looking at different things, such as photographs, emails, texts, things like that? [00:03:04] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:03:05] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:03:06] Speaker 3: In addition to Trooper, now Sergeant Paveo, and yourself, there also was another trooper that you were working with, a guy by the name of Rabbit, like Roger Rabbit, right? [00:03:19] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, Joseph Rabbit was assigned to the unit at the time. [00:03:23] Speaker 3: And he also conducted a search, but he did what's called a full file system extraction, right? [00:03:29] Joseph Rabbit: I don't recall. Okay. [00:03:31] Speaker 3: Okay. What is a full file system extraction as opposed to advanced logical extraction? [00:03:35] Joseph Rabbit: A full file system extraction would acquire the databases and information that you cannot see as a user on a device. [00:03:43] Speaker 3: I see. So, your extraction was done on January 30th. Is that correct? Yes, sir. And Rabbit's extraction was done on January 27th, right? [00:03:53] Joseph Rabbit: I'm not aware of Trooper Rabbit's extraction. [00:03:56] Speaker 3: Did you ever collaborate with him as investigator investigating Lindsey Clancy on this case and talk about what you located or what he located? [00:04:03] Joseph Rabbit: I had no discussion with him about the foreign extraction. All right. [00:04:07] Speaker 3: Is he still working for the state police? He is. Would you agree with me that the full file extraction actually gets more information than the advanced logical? In other words, Rabbit's extraction would have got more information than you got on your advanced logical? [00:04:24] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:04:25] Speaker 3: Correct. So, one of the things the district attorney had asked you about was in reference to exhibit 237. And that would be the Celebrate Report. [00:04:37] Speaker ?: Is that correct? [00:04:38] Speaker 3: Correct. Basically, the caption for the extraction on the Celebrate Report? [00:04:57] Joseph Rabbit: This is a supplemental report that I completed from the physical analyzer software. [00:05:05] Speaker 3: Okay. And would that be Celebrate? [00:05:08] Joseph Rabbit: Yes. [00:05:09] Speaker 3: Celebrate is the way I ask. Looking at exhibit 237, the second page, that on the very top that I'm looking at here, can you tell me on the right, what is it depicting on the right? [00:05:32] Speaker ?: Do you see the little box? [00:05:33] Speaker 3: Do you see the little box? I'm just going to close you. [00:05:35] Speaker 5: This here is the exhibit that the district attorney asked you to look at 237, right? [00:05:38] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Okay. And it's a Celebrate Report, right? [00:05:41] Speaker ?: It's a supplemental report, yes. [00:05:42] Speaker 3: And that would be the calendar search, right? [00:05:43] Speaker ?: The calendar search, correct. [00:05:43] Speaker 3: Okay. So that means that if Lindsay had appointments anywhere, it would have been, presumably, if she put it in the phone, in her calendar, right? Yes. [00:05:51] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. [00:05:52] Speaker 3: Okay. So when you looked at your investigation, directing your attention to the start time, what date are [00:05:55] Joseph Rabbit: we talking about? [00:05:56] Speaker 3: Yes. Are we talking about here? Uh, the start time is August 14th, 2022 midnight. [00:05:59] Joseph Rabbit: End time would be August 14th, 2022 midnight. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. [00:06:01] Speaker 3: And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. [00:06:23] Joseph Rabbit: And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. And the end time would be August 14th, 2022. Okay. [00:06:32] Speaker 3: So if you look down to the next one, it says what date? [00:06:38] Joseph Rabbit: August 23rd, 2022. 10 a.m. Okay. [00:06:42] Speaker 3: And did she make an entry on her computer on that date and time? She did, sir. Can you tell me what the entry was? The subject is 10 a.m. Callan Kingston vaccine. So Callan would be the son. She had it in her phone that he had an appointment to get a vaccine at 10 p.m.? [00:07:05] Joseph Rabbit: The time is 10 a.m. [00:07:07] Speaker 3: 10 a.m. Okay. And the next one. What is the next one? [00:07:11] Joseph Rabbit: Would you like to know the subject, sir, or the date? [00:07:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Just what the date is and then what the subject is. [00:07:17] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. The start time is August 23rd, 2022, 5 p.m. Okay. The subject of the entry is 9:45 Kingston, Dawson. Ear Check. [00:07:27] Speaker 3: And that would be indicative of an appointment that she had at the pediatrician's office for Dawson's Ear Check at 9:45 in the morning. Is that correct? [00:07:38] Joseph Rabbit: Could be an inference. I'm not sure, but that's the entry. [00:07:41] Speaker ?: Okay. Okay. [00:07:42] Speaker 3: Now, looking at exhibit 235, you can tell me what is this document. I recognize it as a screen capture from an Axiom phone distraction. All right. [00:08:08] Speaker ?: And you did indicate you were Axiom qualified, right? [00:08:09] Joseph Rabbit: I am not, sir. I'm familiar with the program as a result of my training with Great Key. Magna Forensics owns Great Key Technology. And in the training course for Great Key, it's a distraction using Axiom, but I'm not certified in the software of Axiom. But you can interpret it. [00:08:16] Speaker ?: You understand what that shows you. It's just a listing of different activities on the phone, right? [00:08:16] Speaker 3: I'm aware of what the screen shot depicts, yes. All right. Can you tell me what -- see, the highlighted one. [00:08:19] Joseph Rabbit: Can you tell us what that is, the date, the time, and what -- what the screen shot depicts, right? I'm not qualified, right? I'm not, sir. I'm familiar with the program as a result of my training with Great Key. Magna Forensics owns Great Key Technology. And in the training course for Great Key, it's a distraction using Axiom, but I'm not [00:08:32] Speaker 3: certified in the software of Axiom. But you can interpret it. You understand what that shows you. It's just a listing of different activities on the phone, right? [00:08:39] Joseph Rabbit: I'm aware of what the screen shot depicts, yes. [00:08:42] Speaker 3: All right. Can you tell me what -- see, the highlighted one. Can you tell us what that is, the date, the time, and what it's referencing? Do you need a magnifying? [00:08:51] Joseph Rabbit: It's referenced as a website, sir. [00:08:53] Speaker 3: And what's the website? [00:08:55] Joseph Rabbit: Mail.google.com. [00:08:58] Speaker 3: That mail, like M-A-I-L, right? [00:09:00] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:09:01] Speaker 3: Okay. Does it indicate whose mail it is? Is it shown on the right? On the right-hand side of the box? [00:09:14] Joseph Rabbit: I can't do, definitively determining whose mailbox is okay. [00:09:25] Speaker 1: Trooper, I'm going to ask you to make sure you keep your voice up, okay? Mr. Honor. [00:09:29] Speaker 3: The next page is pretty much the same thing on the same date. Can you tell us, on that page, who signed in under what email? [00:09:52] Joseph Rabbit: The artifact is indicating that there is a title with an email. What's the name? [00:10:00] Speaker ?: Sir, I'm sorry. [00:10:01] Joseph Rabbit: P-A-T-R-I-C-K-W dot C-L-A-N-C-Y at gmail.com. [00:10:11] Speaker 3: So that's fair to say that that would be patrickclancy@gmail.com. That's his email that's signed in on Lindsay's Facebook. Can you say? [00:10:23] Joseph Rabbit: I can't confirm that. Okay. [00:10:25] Speaker 3: And when you were going through her phone, is it fair to say that, I mean, there wasn't much in her life that wasn't exposed to the state police and the DA's office and the investigators. I mean, your report initially was 180,000 pages of PDF, right? [00:10:52] Joseph Rabbit: It was a very large download, sir. [00:10:54] Speaker 3: Does 180,000 sound about right? [00:10:57] Joseph Rabbit: It does. [00:10:58] Speaker 3: Okay. So 180,000 pages on a PDF, you do a number of extractions, and then you get into the one that you were testifying about. The district attorney indicated or you stated that it was 768 pages of text messages that she had, along with photographs, perhaps? [00:11:15] Joseph Rabbit: That was a timeline search. The number of items in that report are indicative only of the timeframe which I was utilizing within the software. [00:11:24] Speaker 3: Okay. So when you went through her phone, did you come across on a Celebrate report searching for where is the carotid artery? [00:11:42] Joseph Rabbit: I don't recall. [00:11:44] Speaker 3: Did you come across, might be easier this way. This is a Celebrate report on Lindsey's phone, right? I understand that you might not have been standing next to another cop going through the records and documents on her phone, but you're able to recognize that as being a Celebrate report, right? [00:12:09] Joseph Rabbit: It is a Celebrate report, sir. [00:12:10] Speaker 3: It's a Celebrate report for her phone. You can tell by the numbers, right? Maybe this would help a little bit. You see this here where it talks about source file and it's got a number, triple, quadruple zero, eight, one, one, zero, hyphen, zero, zero, zero, nine, two, five, E, and all the rest of them. That would be her phone, right? I don't have that number memorized. [00:12:46] Joseph Rabbit: Of course not. [00:12:47] Speaker 3: But it would be in your report? Yes, sir. [00:12:50] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. Celebrate extraction report. It would depend on the supplemental report that you have, sir, whether or not that character was displayed. [00:13:09] Speaker ?: This is, we agree, is Lindsay's cell phone. [00:13:09] Speaker 3: Celebrate extraction report. This I didn't have here, sir? No, no. I'm sorry. The exhibit. This is the calendar supplemental report. Yes. [00:13:16] Speaker ?: So what's the number? [00:13:17] Speaker 3: You must have a number that would connect to her phone, like an address, like your home address, but in fact it would be a number, right? [00:13:32] Joseph Rabbit: It's a device identifier. It is not presented in this supplemental report. [00:13:38] Speaker 3: Okay. Where would the device identifier be presented? [00:13:42] Joseph Rabbit: It would be presented in the front page of the initial extraction report. [00:13:47] Speaker 3: And that's the 780,000, whatever it is, pages, right? You don't have that here. Certainly 180,000 pages. You don't have that here, right? No, sir. Excuse me, Your Honor. Sure. Excuse me, Mr. Baranel for a minute. [00:14:03] Speaker ?: No. [00:14:19] Speaker 3: Did you bring your report today with you? Just the report, not all the exhibits? [00:14:25] Joseph Rabbit: No, sir. [00:14:27] Speaker 3: So you would agree with me, sir, that one of the concerns as an investigator that you've had is things such as looking for buzzwords like suicide, right? I'm not sure I understand the question. When you're looking on the target's phone, and out of this whole courtroom, the target would be Lindsay Clancy, right? Yes, sir. All right. And you had access to her phone, right? [00:14:56] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:14:57] Speaker 3: And you all went into it with a search warrant, right? [00:14:59] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:15:00] Speaker 3: And you were looking for different topics such as suicide, drugs, killing kids, I imagine, to investigate, right? You had buzzwords. Yes, sir. And did you come across, for example, a search that indicates carotid artery? I don't recall. Did you come across a search on safari, how to slit your throat to die? [00:15:29] Joseph Rabbit: I don't recall. [00:15:31] Speaker 3: Did you come across a search, can you turn airbags off on Kia Sorento? [00:15:38] Joseph Rabbit: I don't recall. [00:15:39] Speaker 3: Did you know that she had a Kia Sorento? [00:15:41] Joseph Rabbit: I did not. [00:15:42] Speaker 3: If I approach you with this celebrate report, sir, does that give you the numbers for what I just went through with these searches? [00:15:59] Joseph Rabbit: The universal device identifier is a match. [00:16:02] Speaker 3: It is a match. Okay. [00:16:04] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, between this document in my hand and the ones that you're holding. [00:16:07] Speaker 3: So what's the first search on the first box? [00:16:10] Joseph Rabbit: The value associated with the source file is carotid artery. [00:16:14] Speaker 3: And the next box? [00:16:17] Joseph Rabbit: How to slit your throat to die. [00:16:20] Speaker 3: And the next box? [00:16:23] Joseph Rabbit: Can you turn airbags off on Kia Sorento? [00:16:27] Speaker 3: These all came from Lindsey's phone, right? [00:16:30] Joseph Rabbit: I can't confirm that. [00:16:31] Speaker 3: Well, it's a pretty good inference, right? Yes, sir. [00:16:34] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. [00:16:35] Speaker 3: Run right off of these. [00:16:38] Speaker ?: Sure. [00:16:39] Speaker 3: Thank you. And if I can, just for continuity, sir, looking at what has been marked as exhibit R, S, and T for identification, whether it's been exhibited yet, the jury would have, but nevertheless, we can question you about it. You do agree with me that the phone identifier numbers are listed here, and they're pretty much the same on these three exhibits, right? Yes, sir. [00:17:15] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. [00:17:16] Speaker 3: And that would be Lindsey Clancy's phone, right? [00:17:18] Joseph Rabbit: I can't confirm that. [00:17:27] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. So I've just handed you exhibit 237, sir. Can you tell me what that exhibit is? The district attorney questioned you about it. [00:17:35] Joseph Rabbit: It's a supplemental report that I compiled from the Celebrite software on the calendar application. [00:17:46] Speaker 3: Do you have access to what was referred to as the mummy text messages? [00:17:54] Joseph Rabbit: Not with this document, sir. Not with this document, sir. [00:17:56] Speaker 3: So that document is the calendar that we had already gone through as far as seeing the doctor, 9:45, 10 o'clock appointments, right? That's correct. [00:18:06] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. [00:18:36] Speaker 3: Exhibit 238, sir, if I may. On the exhibit, sir, this would be captioned, the mum text message thread between Lindsay and her mother. Is that fair to say? [00:18:54] Joseph Rabbit: For January of 2023, sir, yes. [00:18:56] Speaker 3: Okay, so this search was limited by the police to January of 2023 for the texts between Lindsay and her mother. [00:19:06] Joseph Rabbit: Correct, sir. It's a filtered supplemental report from Celebrate. [00:19:10] Speaker 3: Filtered supplemental report. Okay. So who would be, when the jury's looking at these in the jury room, who would be the blue texter? Would it be Lindsay or her mother? [00:19:23] Joseph Rabbit: You could just look at the participant delivered status sent from Lindsay owner to mummy. So the green would be from the owner of the phone to the recipient, mummy. [00:19:36] Speaker 3: Okay, so green would be Lindsay, blue would be the mother. [00:19:40] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. [00:19:41] Speaker 3: So let me give you Exhibit 238. And just for a representative example, I mean, looking through, will you look at September 28th at 618 in the morning? [00:20:00] Joseph Rabbit: Sir, can you repeat that date? [00:20:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. September 28th. Oh, you didn't do, that's right. You didn't do September. You only did January, right? [00:20:07] Joseph Rabbit: Sir, this exhibit is just for January of 2023. [00:20:10] Speaker 3: Okay, I apologize. Let's jump to January then. Now, let's say January 3rd, 835 in the morning. Do you have that? One moment, sir. Sure. [00:20:40] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:20:41] Speaker 3: And what did Lindsay say to her mother on January 3rd at 835 in the morning? [00:20:46] Joseph Rabbit: At 59 seconds, sir? Yeah. I'm all right, period. Anxious about meeting with the whole psychiatry team. [00:20:55] Speaker 3: How about the next message that she sent at January 3rd at 837 in the morning? [00:21:04] Joseph Rabbit: In 31 seconds? Sure. I'm just worried they won't send me home soon. [00:21:10] Speaker 3: Now, do you know, as a police officer working on this case, what she meant, send me home? Do you know where she was on January 3rd? [00:21:18] Joseph Rabbit: It would be an inference only, sir. [00:21:20] Speaker 3: That's all right. [00:21:20] Joseph Rabbit: You can infer. I believe she was in a medical facility. McLean Hospital. I recall that hospital being mentioned. [00:21:29] Speaker 3: And then on January 8th, sir, at 1044 in the morning, was there a text from her mother to Lindsay, if you know? 1044. [00:21:44] Joseph Rabbit: When the mother asked, did you sleep good? One second, sir. It's cut off by the clip here. 1044 in 30 seconds a.m.? Yeah. From mommy to Lindsay. Great. That would be fun. Sleep good last night? Mr. Mark. [00:22:01] Speaker 3: And did she respond? She meaning Lindsay? She did. What'd she say? I actually did. And this was on January 8th, sir? That's correct. January 10th. Could you pull that up, please? At 948 in the morning? [00:22:16] Joseph Rabbit: I apologize, sir. Can you repeat the time on the 10th? [00:22:27] Speaker 3: 948 in the morning, beginning with mother asking questions of Lindsay. Still sleeping good? [00:22:34] Joseph Rabbit: I have a message at 948 in 15 seconds from mommy to Lindsay. [00:22:55] Speaker 3: Okay. [00:22:56] Joseph Rabbit: What is that? Good morning. How are you doing today? Question mark. And what did she say in response? Good. Period. Period. At the gym with the kids. [00:23:05] Speaker 3: And what was the date? Was that January 10th? [00:23:08] Joseph Rabbit: 2023, 948, 21 seconds a.m. [00:23:12] Speaker 3: So you have January 10th in front of you, not the 23rd. [00:23:17] Joseph Rabbit: My corrections are January 10th, 2023 at 948 in 21 seconds. [00:23:22] Speaker 3: All right. And what did the mother ask her? [00:23:26] Joseph Rabbit: Nice, comma, still sleeping good. [00:23:29] Speaker 3: Did she ask, are you feeling better during the day? And she said, so far, a little bit. [00:23:38] Joseph Rabbit: Would you like me to read that, sir? Yeah. At January 10th, 2023, 953, 01 seconds a.m., are you feeling any better during the day? From mommy to Lindsay. [00:23:50] Speaker 3: And go to January 12th, 1109 in the morning. [00:23:55] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. What did she say? What did mommy say? From mommy to Lindsay, January 12th, 2023, 1109, 32 seconds a.m. Still feeling a little better, question mark. [00:24:12] Speaker 3: And how did she respond? How did Lindsay respond? A little bit. And then on January 16th, wait a minute, January 14th at 105, I think in the afternoon. Can you pull that one up? Yes, sir. One moment. Okay. Do you recall where it stats is, I'm waiting for the day. And that would be from Lindsay to her mother. [00:24:33] Joseph Rabbit: Can you repeat the time one more time, sir? [00:24:35] Speaker 3: 105. [00:24:36] Joseph Rabbit: A.m. or p.m.? P.m. And this is on the 14th, sir? Yes, sir. Yep. January 14th. I have a message from Lindsay to mommy, January 14th, 2023, 105, 13 seconds p.m. Saying? About the same, period, period, period, hanging in there and waiting for the day I wake up and feel me. [00:25:03] Speaker 3: So, she says, waiting for the day I wake up feeling like me, right? That's correct, sir. Okay. And then on the 16th of January, if you can pull that one up. January 16th at 1020. [00:25:33] Joseph Rabbit: I have a message from Lindsay to mommy, January 16th, 2023, 1020, 24 seconds a.m. And what did it say? It was fun, period, period, period. Cora and Dawson enjoyed, period, period, period. [00:26:08] Speaker 3: Now, did it make reference at any point in the text that it was, that was a reference to the Cape Codder? Is that in there at all? Do you see it? [00:26:17] Joseph Rabbit: It was fun, referring to what was fun, if you know. Not in this particular message, sir. Okay. [00:26:25] Speaker 3: And then continuing on, sir, January 18th, would you agree that she inquired? That she inquired of her mother. The mother asked, are you starting a new med? She said, I did. I started it two nights ago. And basically, the mother was asking her about her medications and how she felt and how she was doing, right? [00:26:45] Joseph Rabbit: One moment, sir. I just have to get to that point. [00:26:57] Speaker 3: You know what? That's okay, because it's an exhibit and the jurors are going to have it and they can take a look at it. So that's okay. We're good on that. [00:27:03] Joseph Rabbit: Okay, don't answer the question. [00:27:04] Speaker 3: No, you don't have to answer. That's all right. [00:27:06] Joseph Rabbit: Okay, sir. [00:27:09] Speaker 3: Now, on January 24th, the district attorney asked you about the Google searches, Googling 3V restaurant, looking at the distance from the house, the 3V restaurant, looking at menus. You recall answering her questions on that? [00:27:40] Joseph Rabbit: I do, sir. [00:27:41] Speaker 3: And you're familiar also, prior to that, on the same day, that she had taken the baby to a doctor and that Pat texted her and asked, basically, you know, how did it work out? Do you recall that? [00:27:56] Joseph Rabbit: I recall the doctor's appointment. I don't recall the text. [00:27:58] Speaker 3: Do you recall that Lindsay sent a picture of her and her children, I think, of that afternoon? [00:28:06] Joseph Rabbit: I recall the snowman photo. I'm sorry? I recall the snowman photo. [00:28:10] Speaker 3: Okay. And that was on the 24th of January, right? [00:28:13] Joseph Rabbit: It was, sir. [00:28:14] Speaker 3: Do you recall that Pat texted back and said something like, oh, wow, you're a good mom? Do you recall that? [00:28:20] Joseph Rabbit: I don't recall the text. [00:28:32] Speaker 3: One of the other searches that you did would be, are you aware that there were searches for medical, such as questions regarding bipolar symptoms, psychosis, can you be in DKA without high blood sugar, page after page after page, trazodone, trazodone, what is the effect of trazodone, Walbutrin, how do you feel on trazodone, Ativan addiction, Prozac, trazodone, going on and on and on. You guys saw this on the search on her phone to celebrate, right? [00:29:11] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. I recall those searches, sir. [00:29:13] Speaker 3: Okay. Could I offer this, Your Honor? This would be medical searches on her phone. [00:29:16] Speaker ?: Any objection? [00:29:17] Speaker 1: No. All right. That may be admitted. [00:29:20] Speaker ?: I said 239. Great. [00:29:22] Speaker 5: Thank you. [00:29:23] Speaker 3: Do you recall, sir, that there was also a search for schizophrenia? I'll say that? Not specifically. Well, if I approach you, sir, and your extraction book, does that address your memory that they [00:29:50] Speaker ?: went through the search on her phone, schizophrenia, the word says schizophrenia? Yes, sir. Okay. What was the date of that search? January 19th, 2023, 9:58.01 seconds AM. Okay. I'll put that right here for a minute. How about psychosis? Did she search for psychosis as well? [00:30:02] Joseph Rabbit: If I may. Close. [00:30:04] Speaker 3: There is a keyword search in psychosis in a Google search. [00:30:05] Speaker ?: And that would be a keyword search that you said in a Google search on January 19th, January 19th, 2023, 9:58.01 seconds AM. [00:30:07] Joseph Rabbit: I'll put that right here for a minute. I'll put that right here for a minute. I'll put that right here for a minute. I'll put that right here for a minute. I'll put that right here for a minute. [00:30:12] Speaker ?: I'll put that right here for a minute. [00:30:13] Speaker 3: I'll put that right here for a minute. I'll put that right here for a minute. I'll put that right here for a minute. How about psychosis? Did she search for psychosis as well? If I may. Of course. [00:30:20] Joseph Rabbit: There is a keyword search in psychosis in a Google search. [00:30:21] Speaker 3: And that would be a keyword search that you said in a Google search on January 20th? [00:30:35] Joseph Rabbit: January 20th, 2023, 8:39 and 0 seconds PM. [00:30:40] Speaker 3: Okay. Is there also a search for Seroquel? [00:30:46] Joseph Rabbit: Seroquel is part of a search. Yes. [00:30:52] Speaker 3: What was the rest of the search? [00:30:54] Joseph Rabbit: On Seroquel, I feel like I can't have a conversation. Okay. [00:30:58] Speaker 3: And it goes on on a number of other inquiries as well, correct? Dealing with Seroquel. [00:31:03] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct, sir. Okay. [00:31:05] Speaker 3: And then further, do you recall that there were a number of pages where she was inquiring about suicide? Yes, sir. Can you tell us when she was Googling suicide? [00:31:20] Joseph Rabbit: December 29th, 2022, 1:02, 14 seconds PM. Okay. [00:31:28] Speaker 3: And would you agree that she also Googled on a number of occasions, sleep? [00:31:40] Joseph Rabbit: Sleep is one keyword and part of a Google search, correct? [00:31:45] Speaker 3: And then there's a number of pages that are attached to that dealing with the search for sleep, correct? [00:31:51] Speaker ?: That's correct, sir. [00:31:53] Speaker 3: Do you know the timeframe that we're talking about from the Celebrate search? From the Celebrate search? [00:32:00] Speaker ?: Multiple entries, sir. [00:32:00] Speaker 3: Majority of them are in January of 2023. [00:32:01] Speaker ?: Okay. Thank you. Also, there was a larger package of searches for Trazodone, is that correct? Yes, sir. Trazodone is one keyword as part of multiple Google searches. Okay. Zoloft. [00:32:09] Joseph Rabbit: Correct. Correct. What's the time frame? What's the time frame? What's the time frame? [00:32:14] Speaker ?: If I may just remove this? Okay. [00:32:16] Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Also, there's a larger package of searches for Trazodone, is that correct? [00:32:26] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. Trazodone is one keyword as part of multiple Google searches. Okay. Zoloft. [00:32:31] Speaker ?: Correct. [00:32:32] Speaker 3: What's the time frame? If I may just remove this, sir. [00:32:34] Speaker ?: Yeah, sure. [00:32:35] Joseph Rabbit: Earliest entry is December 31st, 2022, 407, 48 seconds PM, last entry, all on the same date. December 31st, 2022, 7:06, 39 seconds PM. Okay. Thank you. [00:32:59] Speaker 3: She also, on her phone, is a search for Benzo withdrawals, right? [00:33:06] Speaker ?: Yes, sir. [00:33:07] Joseph Rabbit: Benzo is listed as a keyword as part of another search. [00:33:12] Speaker 3: Also, after Benzo, it says withdrawals, right? [00:33:15] Speaker ?: Correct. [00:33:16] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. [00:33:17] Speaker 3: And what's the time frame for that, please? [00:33:20] Joseph Rabbit: January 20th, 2023, 8:11, 57 seconds PM. [00:33:25] Speaker ?: Okay. Thank you. [00:33:27] Speaker 3: And also a search for Wellbutrin. [00:33:31] Speaker ?: Yes, sir. [00:33:32] Joseph Rabbit: Wellbutrin is a keyword as part of a Google search. Does it say what the time frame is? It does. What is it? January 16th, 2023, 9:14, 47 seconds AM. [00:33:45] Speaker 3: Okay. And a search for McLean. Correct, sir. [00:33:53] Joseph Rabbit: McLean is part of a keyword of a Google search. What's the time frame? December 29th, 2022, 8:52, 37 seconds AM. Okay. [00:34:02] Speaker 3: Is there also a search for insomnia? Yes, sir. [00:34:12] Joseph Rabbit: Insomnia is part of a keyword of a Google search. What's the time frame? December 31st, 2022, 7:12, 58 seconds PM. That's December 21st, did you say? December 31st, 2022, 7:12, 58 seconds PM. December 31st, 2022, sir. Okay. And is there a search for keywords ketamine? [00:34:23] Speaker 3: K-E-T-A-M-I-N-U. Yes, sir. Ketamine is part of a Google search. [00:34:26] Joseph Rabbit: It's a keyword within the Google search. What's the time frame? [00:34:28] Speaker 3: And there is a search for keywords Ketamine. K-E-T-A-M-I-N-E. [00:34:39] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. Ketamine is part of Google search. It's a keyword within the Google search. [00:34:43] Speaker 3: What's the sign for it? [00:34:46] Joseph Rabbit: For this entry, January 20th, 2023, 8.39, zero seconds, PM. [00:34:54] Speaker 3: There's also a search pulled up on Celebrate for Lamectal. [00:35:01] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, the word Lamectal is part of a Google search. [00:35:05] Speaker 3: And what's the time frame? [00:35:06] Joseph Rabbit: January 16th, 2023, 9.23, 13 seconds, AM. [00:35:12] Speaker 3: Okay. Is there also a keyword search for post-pattum? And Google searches for post-pattum depression and various aspects of post-pattum? [00:35:32] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:35:33] Speaker 3: What's the time frame for us? [00:35:44] Joseph Rabbit: They all occur within January of 2023, with the earliest date, meaning the 11th of January, 2023, and proceeding all the way to the 19th of January, 2023. [00:35:56] Speaker 3: And keyword Benzo, right on the Celebrate Report for Lindsey's cell phone. [00:36:05] Joseph Rabbit: It is, sir. [00:36:05] Speaker 3: Can you tell us what the time frame is? [00:36:08] Joseph Rabbit: Sir, would you like it for the first entry or all the entries? [00:36:11] Speaker 3: The idea, like, you know, bracket, you know, starting on when, ending on when. We don't have to go through all. [00:36:19] Joseph Rabbit: The earliest entry appears to be December 6th, 2022, 9.17, zero, five seconds, AM, with the last entry being January 20th, 2023, 8.13, 48 seconds, PM. [00:36:30] Speaker 3: And search for bipolar. That was on her phone? [00:36:40] Joseph Rabbit: Keyword bipolar is part of a Google search, correct. [00:36:42] Speaker 3: Bracketed in. What's the time that it started? When did it end? [00:36:47] Joseph Rabbit: The earliest entry is, from this report, is December 29th, 2022, 9 a.m., 37 seconds. And the last entry is January 13th, 2023, 1.38, 42 seconds, PM. [00:37:04] Speaker 3: And Konazepam was a search as well, correct? [00:37:08] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct, sir. [00:37:10] Speaker 3: And can you just give me an idea what's the time frame of that? [00:37:14] Joseph Rabbit: All of the searches in this report indicate January 18th, 2023, and the morning hours from 11.26 a.m. to 11.27 a.m. [00:37:23] Speaker 3: Okay. And the next one would be Ativan. Let's see what it says, Ativan. What's the first? Just give me the first month. What's the stat of the search for Ativan? [00:37:34] Joseph Rabbit: The earliest time frame, sir? December 31st, 2022, 7.06, 30 seconds, PM. [00:37:40] Speaker 3: Okay. Next one would be Amitriptyline, correct? [00:37:48] Joseph Rabbit: I'm not sure on the pronunciation, but it appears to be that way. [00:37:51] Speaker 3: Okay. When was the Amitriptyline search? When did it start? When did it end? [00:37:58] Joseph Rabbit: January 16th, 2023, 11.01, 28 seconds, AM. With the last entry being January 23rd, 2023, 8.17, 58 seconds, PM. [00:38:10] Speaker 3: And then on January 20th, 2023, was she searching intrusive? [00:38:23] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. That's correct. [00:38:24] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:38:26] Speaker 3: And then finally, sir, on January 19th, 2023, was she searching hallucinations? [00:38:35] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. 10.33, 49 seconds, AM. [00:38:39] Speaker 5: You're welcome, sir. [00:38:47] Joseph Rabbit: I'm going to be here. [00:39:17] Speaker 5: No objection. Okay. [00:39:27] Speaker 1: Those may be admitted. Do you want to admit it's individual? Is one individual or all one? [00:39:34] Speaker 3: I don't care. [00:39:36] Speaker 1: Why don't we do that? I hate to do this to you. Why don't we do it individually? Just might be easier down the road. Okay. All right. [00:40:14] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. [00:41:14] Speaker 3: Thank you. I have neglected to ask about this celebrated extraction report from Lindsey's phone. This here is another extraction search on her phone. [00:42:00] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. It's a supplemental report for searched items. Okay. [00:42:04] Speaker 3: And looking at that, if you can, basically there are a number of search terms in there such as pre-made goodie bags and that would have been on December 31st, is that right? [00:42:19] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. All right. [00:42:25] Speaker 3: What's the next one underneath that that would be on December 31st? [00:42:29] Joseph Rabbit: Child with bloated belly and lethargy. [00:42:32] Speaker 3: How about the next one on December 31st? [00:42:35] Joseph Rabbit: Children's Motrin stores. [00:42:38] Speaker 3: What about the next one on the 31st? [00:42:40] Joseph Rabbit: Children's Motrin. Next one. [00:42:42] Speaker 3: Next one. [00:42:43] Joseph Rabbit: Is children's Tylenol the same as infants? [00:42:46] Speaker 3: Next one. [00:42:47] Joseph Rabbit: Six-month-old whale windows. [00:42:50] Speaker 3: That would be W-A-L-E, whatever that means. [00:42:53] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:42:54] Speaker 3: Okay. Next one. [00:42:56] Joseph Rabbit: Earth's Best Organic Baby Food. Next one. Earth's Best Organic Infant. Next one. Earth's Best Organic Infant Formula. [00:43:08] Speaker 3: Next one. [00:43:09] Joseph Rabbit: Nova Plymouth NOVA. Next one. Best Kids Movies. [00:43:14] Speaker 3: Next one. [00:43:15] Joseph Rabbit: Nova Trampoline Lark. Next one. Unicorn Picture. [00:43:23] Speaker 3: Next one, if you can. [00:43:25] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. Unicorn Picture. Free Coloring. [00:43:30] Speaker 3: Just read them right down. [00:43:31] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. [00:43:32] Speaker 3: Just rip right through it. [00:43:33] Joseph Rabbit: Paw Patrol Saves. I'll spell it. Paw Patrol Saves. The M-E-R-E-K-R. Twin Girls Bed. Cape Codder Resort. How much formula for eight M-I-N-T-H. Chuck E. Cheese. Chuck E. Cheese. Children's Motrin. Children's Motrin. Children's Motrin Stores. ADC Temple Touch Thermometer. Can I just interrupt you? [00:44:00] Speaker 3: Yes, sir. What are we up to for date right now? [00:44:03] Joseph Rabbit: The last item I read was ADC Temple Touch Thermometer, sir. And the date was January 17th, 2023. Time 2:19.03 seconds PM. Okay. [00:44:12] Speaker 3: I just wanted to get a frame on the time. Yes, sir. Go ahead and finish that up. [00:44:15] Joseph Rabbit: Eight month milestones. Fluffy slime recipe. Fluffy slime recipe. UTI symptoms children. Kids Miralax. Miralax for kids. And what was the date on that? What was the date on that? The last date on the page for Miralax for kids. January 24th, 2023. 4:47.31 seconds PM. Okay. [00:44:38] Speaker 3: Finish these three more. [00:44:40] Joseph Rabbit: CVS Pharmacy. Pedialax. Pedialax. Thank you, sir. [00:44:44] Speaker ?: I got for this, Judge. [00:44:45] Speaker 1: All right. That may be admitted. Yeah, 261. Yes, sir. [00:45:10] Speaker 3: And then finally, sir, approaching you with a report. You can recognize that document, right? [00:45:24] Speaker ?: Yes, sir. [00:45:25] Joseph Rabbit: Right. [00:45:26] Speaker 3: And what is that? It doesn't have the thing at the header on the top. That's all. [00:45:31] Joseph Rabbit: It's a supplemental report, sir, and it appears to be text messages. Okay. [00:45:35] Speaker 3: Are you able to know when the photograph of the two kids and the snowman was sent to Pat by Lindsay? Do you know when? Was it on the 24th? If you know. [00:45:46] Joseph Rabbit: I would have to look at the extraction. [00:45:49] Speaker 3: So, understanding jury would be able to be looking at the photo and has a little history. If we look at this report, you see where it says Lindsay, owner. And then over here, it says cutie. Yes, sir. So, is that from Pat to Lindsay? That's correct. And what's the date and the time? [00:46:14] Joseph Rabbit: January 24th, 2023, 8:19, 45 seconds AM. Okay. [00:46:21] Speaker 3: And what's the next one that you see? And just say to us, like, it's Pat to Lindsay or Lindsay to Pat, and what is the message? You don't have to go through all the numbers. Yes, sir. [00:46:30] Joseph Rabbit: Next item, do you want me to read the date, sir? Yes, sure. Next item, January 24th, 2023, 8:36, 17 seconds AM. Lindsay to Pat loved an image, which is a reflection that someone loved to use the feature within iMessage to like an image. [00:46:49] Speaker 3: Like an image, like a photograph, right? Correct, sir. [00:46:51] Joseph Rabbit: Thank you. [00:46:52] Speaker 3: What else? [00:46:53] Joseph Rabbit: Do you want me to keep going? [00:46:54] Speaker ?: Sure. [00:46:55] Joseph Rabbit: Okay. January 24th, 2023, 8:42, 16 seconds AM. From Patrick to Lindsay. [00:47:02] Speaker ?: How's it going? [00:47:02] Joseph Rabbit: And you know what? [00:47:03] Speaker 3: If it's the same date rather than taking the time, just go right down and read the messages. [00:47:11] Joseph Rabbit: Receive, sir. The date is the same for all the messages. From Patrick to Lindsay. How's it going? Lindsay to Patrick. Good. Lindsay to Patrick. Okay. Her urine looked good, so nothing going wrong with her kidneys. Few. Patrick to Lindsay. Good. With a smiley face. Lindsay to Patrick. No message content. Patrick to Lindsay. Oh, wow. Patrick to Lindsay. You're a good mama. Lindsay to Patrick. [00:47:39] Speaker ?: Smiley face with hearts. [00:47:40] Joseph Rabbit: Lindsay to Patrick. Blank. Patrick to Lindsay. Laughed at an image. [00:47:44] Speaker ?: Lindsay to Patrick. [00:47:45] Joseph Rabbit: Any chance you want to do takeout from 3V. Period. Period. Period. I didn't cook anything. Period. Period. Period. It's been a long day. Smiley to Patrick. Any chance you want to do takeout from 3V. Period. Period. Period. I didn't cook anything. Period. Period. [00:48:03] Speaker 5: Now, finally, district attorney spent some time asking you about what you're going to do. [00:48:32] Speaker 3: Do you recall that line of questioning? Yes, sir. What did that mean? Does that mean that someone or Lindsay or someone on her phone changed the photograph of the little baby? Is that what that means? [00:48:49] Joseph Rabbit: It means that the photo was edited in some fashion. [00:48:52] Speaker 3: So that could be like coloring? [00:48:54] Joseph Rabbit: It could be a variety of things. [00:48:56] Speaker 3: Like what? [00:48:57] Joseph Rabbit: As I indicated in my early testimony, it could be that someone took a live photo and instead of having it be a live photo, which is multiple bursts of images, they took it down to just a single photo. [00:49:08] Speaker 3: Anything else that can be modified? [00:49:12] Joseph Rabbit: Multiple things, but from the extraction, that's the only thing I was able to determine. [00:49:16] Speaker 3: So you weren't involved in the search of the Clancy House on the 24th, 25th, were you? No, sir. Were you aware that there were photographs of the kids hanging in virtually every room, kitchen, living room, bedrooms? Bedrooms? Did you know that? Did you know that? As an investigator on this case? [00:49:34] Joseph Rabbit: Sir, I was not involved in the search. [00:49:37] Speaker 3: Did you know that there were dozens and dozens of photograph problems, little babies all over the house? Did you know that? [00:49:49] Joseph Rabbit: I was not aware of that, sir. [00:49:51] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:49:52] Speaker 1: Kamal, to be directed. Thank you. [00:49:56] Speaker 5: All of the exhibits that Defense Council just put in about the searches for psychosis or certain drugs, are those all available in the DISC Exhibit 236, in some of those reports where you can search the word and all of those mentions will come up? [00:50:17] Joseph Rabbit: Yes. [00:50:18] Speaker ?: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [00:50:48] Speaker 5: The one, the searches about psychosis, some of those searches were for psychosis symptoms on January 19, 2023, is that correct? [00:51:08] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. [00:51:10] Speaker 5: The person using the phone looking it up was looking up to find out what the symptoms of someone would be experiencing. If they had psychosis, correct? [00:51:20] Joseph Rabbit: It's a keyword search for psychosis symptoms. [00:51:25] Speaker 5: You're asking questions about the chats between Lindsay and her mother in Exhibit 238, correct? [00:51:37] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, ma'am. [00:51:48] Speaker 5: There's a text message from her mother to Lindsay on January 19, 2023, which states, I'll bring it Saturday, never know what treasures I'll find in the attic, correct? [00:52:19] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct, ma'am. [00:52:21] Speaker 5: So you mean to indicate that her mother is going to visit her that Saturday, correct? From the text message content? [00:52:29] Joseph Rabbit: It's an inference. It's an inference. [00:52:43] Speaker 5: Those are also a text message from Lindsay's mother to Lindsay on January 22, 2023, which would have been the Sunday after the Saturday visit, in which her mother says, enjoyed seeing everyone this weekend. Nice to see you doing better. [00:53:20] Joseph Rabbit: That's correct. [00:53:36] Speaker 5: I have nothing further. [00:53:38] Speaker 3: Mr. Brayton? Just very briefly, kind of like a housekeeping thing, if I could, Judge. I'm approaching you with a number of text messages. Would you agree with me, again, that this came off of Lindsay's phone, and it would be text messages between Patrick Clancy and Lindsay? Kind of flip through them all. Trust me, one of the others. [00:54:01] Joseph Rabbit: Yes, sir. That's correct, sir. [00:54:19] Speaker ?: Okay. [00:54:20] Speaker 3: And then finally, I'm handing you, again, extractions from Lindsay's phone. One that, and flip through them, if you wish, would be between Lindsay and Sue Clancy, her mother-in-law, Patrick's mother-in-law. It said Sue Clancy. [00:54:40] Speaker 1: That's correct, sir. Okay. [00:54:41] Speaker 3: I'd offer these to you, Your Honor. Objection. [00:54:44] Speaker 1: All right, vacancy counts. [00:54:45] Speaker 3: That's all I have. Thank you, sir. [00:54:46] Speaker ?: All right. [00:54:47] Speaker 1: Can you speak anything further? [00:54:48] Speaker ?: No, Your Honor. [00:54:49] Speaker 1: All right. Thank you, sir. You may step down. Thank you. [00:54:50] Speaker ?: Thank you. [00:54:51] Speaker 1: All right. Some members of the jury, it's 1 o'clock, so we're 1 on 1, so they'll hold that against me. So we're going to take the afternoon recess at this point. I'm going to ask you to be ready to come back 2 o'clock in the next witness. My instructions are the same. During the break, don't talk about this case. Don't do any research. Don't read anything. Don't listen to anything. And then we'll see you back here about 2 o'clock. Okay? Thank you. [00:55:28] Speaker 3: Court, all rise. Judge, are you closing?