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"It's a little hot. Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Emily Campagno, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. Can New York still be saved? Republican Bruce Blakeman giving the Ayatollah of Albany a good pantsuit-sized whooping"
[0:02] It's a little hot.
[0:03] Hello, everybody.
[0:04] I'm Jesse Waters along with Emily Campagno, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld.
[0:09] It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
[0:19] Can New York still be saved?
[0:21] Republican Bruce Blakeman giving the Ayatollah of Albany a good pantsuit-sized whooping last
[0:26] night over her failed liberal policies at the only governor's debate.
[0:31] Kathy Hochul basically had one line, a noun, a verb, and Donald Trump.
[0:35] And Bruce Almighty took her to task.
[0:36] You are the president of the fan club for Donald Trump.
[0:41] It's absurd how adoring you are of him.
[0:44] My gosh, you stood on a stage screaming at the top of your lungs, we love Donald Trump.
[0:50] We like to talk about Donald Trump all the time because you don't want to talk about your record.
[0:55] I'm talking about my record right now.
[0:57] It's a record of misery and failure.
[0:59] The highest taxes, utility rates, they're 70% higher than the national average.
[1:04] And just a week after ICE agents shot the left's new Maryland dad, you know, criminal illegal gangbanger,
[1:10] Oswald Bell-Gall, Big Bruce didn't let crazy Kathy get away with the fact that it was her
[1:15] sanctuary policies that created the conditions for the shooting.
[1:19] I oversee over 500 policing agencies in the state of New York, over half a million arrests every year.
[1:26] That's not how you conduct yourself.
[1:27] ICE is out of control.
[1:29] It's out of control in Nassau County.
[1:31] Kathy, it never would have happened but for your sanctuary policy.
[1:35] You have invited criminals to come into our state and prey on our communities.
[1:40] The reason why that happened is because of you, Kathy Hochul.
[1:44] And the OG failed New York liberal, Bill de Blasio, getting taken to school by Dana over ICE.
[1:51] What was reckless or violent about what ICE did?
[1:54] Okay.
[1:55] What we know is repeatedly it's been the same pattern with ICE.
[1:58] And I said Minneapolis because the same thing with a vehicle.
[2:01] We saw this in Texas.
[2:02] We saw this in Maine.
[2:03] Use of force that does not conform with what law enforcement does.
[2:07] And now we find out there's a five-year-old kid in that vehicle.
[2:09] Oscar Belgaard with a machete had the five-year-old kid in the car.
[2:12] I'm not saying he's a good guy.
[2:14] He was terrorizing his neighbors.
[2:16] I think.
[2:16] It would never have gotten to that point if New York officials co-operated with ICE.
[2:23] I don't think, no.
[2:23] No, wait a minute.
[2:24] This is a bigger problem.
[2:27] They never want to admit the sanctuary policy caused it.
[2:31] And also, I should, what I should have said back to him was that if you are a law enforcement,
[2:36] including ICE, if a vehicle is being used and you think you're in danger, you are justified
[2:41] to take action.
[2:43] So there was nothing reckless or violent that was done by ICE in that situation.
[2:46] One thing that really bothered me about that interview, and I wish I'd had time to press
[2:49] him a little bit more, is, of course, they're defending, they're not, de Blasio was not defending
[2:55] Oscar Belgaard as an individual.
[2:56] But he was saying ICE is in the wrong because writ large, over the course of time, in all
[3:01] situations, ICE has been terrible.
[3:04] That's how he tried to paint it.
[3:05] And he was talking about the people of New York wanting ICE not to terrorize neighbors.
[3:12] I'm like, wait, who do you think was terrorizing the neighbors?
[3:15] Belgaard was terrorizing the neighbors.
[3:16] They said so.
[3:17] And like, who is going to stand up for them?
[3:18] And then I asked him, what do you think of Mayor Momdani saying that Oscar Belgaard is
[3:22] the real New Yorker here?
[3:23] And he goes, you know what he said?
[3:25] He said, oh, I don't know anything about that.
[3:28] And to me, if you're going to come on and you want to talk about these stories, you should
[3:32] know the full story.
[3:33] Yes, Mayor Momdani said that Belgaard is the New Yorker here.
[3:37] And so I do think that Bruce Blakeman, pressing Kathy Hochul on that last night, was reminding
[3:41] people that the issue that, yes, brought President Trump back to power and winning the presidency
[3:47] had to do with these issues of security and dealing with the fact that we have the worst
[3:52] of the worst that are still embedded in our society because of years of an open border
[3:56] policy.
[3:57] And now it's going to be very difficult to try to get them out.
[4:01] And I think that it's obviously a very tight race.
[4:04] It's an uphill battle for any Republican.
[4:06] But New York has had Republican governors in the past and the state was better off for it.
[4:10] Yeah.
[4:10] Hochul was outclassed last night, Jessica.
[4:13] What do you think her biggest accomplishment has been?
[4:18] Her biggest, like, straight-up accomplishment?
[4:21] I think that she talked about housing policy, that she's gotten YIMBY versus the NIMBY of Suffolk
[4:28] County with Bruce Blakeman defending the fact that home prices in Nassau County have gone up
[4:34] over 40%, which I think exposed him to...
[4:37] Wait, what is her biggest accomplishment as governor?
[4:41] Building this housing.
[4:42] What housing?
[4:43] The affordable housing.
[4:45] Where?
[4:45] Like, all over the...
[4:47] Rent is going up like crazy here, and there's no housing.
[4:51] Nothing's been built.
[4:52] Well, that's not true.
[4:54] And she talked about it last night in the debate, and I thought it was Bruce Blakeman's weakest point
[4:59] where he was going to, I have created wealth in Nassau County because housing prices have gone up 40%.
[5:06] But that squarely is why people don't like life right now, because it's too expensive.
[5:12] He's not thinking about young families that are trying to get on the property ladder.
[5:15] He had no answer for what's going on with inflation, 3.7% in this report.
[5:19] And standing shoulder to shoulder with a very unpopular president is a choice that other Republicans
[5:25] don't want to do nearly as often.
[5:27] And look at how Mike Lawler is running.
[5:29] Yeah, but he doesn't have anything to do with inflation.
[5:31] You could argue that her shutting down power plants and pipelines caused much more inflation.
[5:36] That's why this is a close race.
[5:38] It was close with Lee Zeldin four years ago as well.
[5:41] But that was a red year.
[5:43] This is going to be a bluer year than it was in 2022.
[5:47] So I think that Kathy Hochul will win.
[5:49] I think that it will be a slim margin for a deep blue state.
[5:53] But she's having to run essentially two campaigns.
[5:55] She has to have an upstate campaign.
[5:57] That's why you have the data center moratorium that's going on there.
[6:00] And there are voters all over the country in conservative states that want that to happen.
[6:03] In Ohio, in Texas, she's delivered there.
[6:06] And then she will also be rallying with Mayor Mom Donnie before the election on November 3rd.
[6:10] She'll cut a deal with the data center people so they pay them off like everybody else is doing.
[6:15] I like Bruce Almighty.
[6:16] I hadn't really seen a lot of him before.
[6:18] But last night, I thought he was pretty sharp.
[6:19] It was awesome.
[6:20] I can answer the question about what her greatest accomplishment is.
[6:23] It's causing the biggest stampede in history.
[6:27] I mean, Oklahoma Sooners move over.
[6:29] You know those people who are obsessed with Trump and everything out of their mouth?
[6:32] Like at some point, they just have to say something about him.
[6:34] I'm subjected to it a lot because I am from the West Coast.
[6:37] I go there often.
[6:38] It is exhausting.
[6:40] But it's even more exhausting to be the constituent of someone like that.
[6:44] And that's what Kathy Hochul is.
[6:45] You know what parties when, like, you can tell the person that everyone hates
[6:48] because everyone is fleeing their conversation or, like, relieved when they get out of it?
[6:52] I mean, that is what New Yorkers have done under her watch.
[6:57] So let's look at those numbers.
[6:59] Almost a million New Yorkers have fled, taken with them $1.4 billion in adjusted gross income
[7:05] and almost $12 billion in annual state and local taxes.
[7:10] And the 1% here, the top, shoulders almost half of the state taxes.
[7:15] But she's spending $8 billion on illegal immigrants.
[7:19] She's forgetting the New Yorkers here.
[7:21] That's the problem.
[7:22] Her being anti-Trump and her hatred of Trump has totally eclipsed her being pro-New Yorker.
[7:27] So when we vote, when you talk about quality of life and, like, why everyone hates their life,
[7:32] I mean, I just, I hate the feces on the streets.
[7:34] Absolutely.
[7:35] I hate that it floods every time it even sprinkles.
[7:38] I hate the smell of the sewers.
[7:40] I hate the homeless encampments everywhere.
[7:42] I hate the danger.
[7:43] I hate covering the stories of people in real loss and pain,
[7:46] getting stabbed and shot and shoved into subways.
[7:49] And then we're told that we're supposed to mourn that Oscar getting shot
[7:53] instead of the NYPD detective getting stabbed 10 times.
[7:57] I mean, this is ridiculous.
[7:58] In fact, we can't articulate one positive thing that she has done
[8:01] other than threaten, who is that annoying DA?
[8:04] Bragg?
[8:05] Yep.
[8:05] And then didn't even follow through with it.
[8:07] I mean, I would think actually Libs would be upset with her
[8:09] because she wouldn't even acknowledge the federal tribe on Long Island
[8:12] that begged her for some type of titling.
[8:14] She's actually done nothing other than be anti-Trump.
[8:18] So, look.
[8:19] Yeah, we could use an Indian casino out in the Hamptons, great.
[8:22] I was just saying that to my friend.
[8:26] Anyway, I want to try to go, I want to see if there's a way
[8:29] that I can persuade somebody like Jessica.
[8:32] I think that everybody can pretty much agree
[8:35] that Hochul is not a great candidate.
[8:39] Electricity bills rose 60% under her, which is insane,
[8:44] or state spending ballooned, far past inflation, taxes, as you said, state high.
[8:49] The green rules kept energy expensive.
[8:51] You have cashless bail, which she is for.
[8:54] You have soft rules on criminals, which she is for.
[8:57] Sanctuary policy, which we already have been through.
[9:00] All of these things point to the fact
[9:03] that she's prioritizing the wrong people.
[9:06] It's not the citizens, it's the suspects.
[9:09] If you want a metric on quality of life,
[9:11] it doesn't have to be human feces.
[9:13] It's that our toothpaste is still locked up.
[9:15] Are things getting better if your toothpaste is behind lock and key?
[9:19] So what I'm thinking, Jessica, because I did this myself,
[9:23] set aside the partisan reflex to support your side.
[9:26] Pretend there are no sides,
[9:28] which I did with Andrew Cuomo over Curtis Sliwa.
[9:31] I was like, I could go Republican,
[9:33] because I am a Republican,
[9:34] but I actually think that the city would benefit from Cuomo
[9:37] over Mamdani or Sliwa.
[9:40] So the practical question then is,
[9:42] another term of something you know,
[9:45] which is a failed approach from Ockel,
[9:48] is that really preferable to a competent,
[9:50] moderate Republican alternative
[9:52] whose priorities align with all of our acute problems?
[9:56] This isn't a choice of extremists.
[9:59] You know, this isn't socialism versus MAGA.
[10:01] This is just some kind of moderate pro-choice Republican,
[10:06] an old school Republican from Nassau County,
[10:08] which is like the size of three states.
[10:11] So you have to ask, like,
[10:12] what concerns you as a New Yorker?
[10:15] You know, is it politics, really,
[10:17] or is it your family?
[10:18] Budgets, crime, store lockups,
[10:20] walking to and from school,
[10:23] energy bills, homelessness, drug addiction?
[10:25] In all areas, you have to admit that we are dissatisfied.
[10:29] These things aren't getting better.
[10:32] So if you're going to take a risk,
[10:34] why is Blakeman a risk?
[10:36] Is he Hitler?
[10:38] You know, is he the devil?
[10:39] No, he's a suburban Republican
[10:41] who basically ran,
[10:43] created one of the safest counties in America.
[10:46] He didn't raise property taxes.
[10:48] He fixed the budget.
[10:50] And like I said, he's pro-choice,
[10:52] which, you know, should, like,
[10:54] remove a lot of resistance
[10:55] from most of these Emily Listers.
[10:58] He's no interest in culture wars that I can tell.
[11:01] He's added police.
[11:02] He wants to cooperate over getting illegals,
[11:05] violent illegals, deported.
[11:06] He opposes sanctuary cities.
[11:08] In short, he's pragmatic,
[11:10] old-school, Republican,
[11:12] focused on three things,
[11:13] taxes, energy, and order.
[11:15] He's literally exactly what a liberal would want
[11:20] if you divorced yourself
[11:21] from the loyalty of your party
[11:23] and transferred that loyalty to us,
[11:27] your friends, your family, yourself.
[11:30] You deserve better
[11:33] than what the party is giving you.
[11:36] Like, we come here every day
[11:37] and we complain about the things
[11:39] we see on the street, you know?
[11:41] And if it were a Republican,
[11:42] I would be the same way.
[11:43] I'd be going, this guy's a jerk.
[11:45] All I'm saying is maybe, you know,
[11:47] if this were an election in Alaska or Arizona,
[11:50] I get it because it's not going to affect you.
[11:52] But this is going to affect you and me.
[11:54] So why don't you do me a solid?
[11:56] Like, I come here every day as your friend.
[11:59] Why don't you admit that, you know what?
[12:01] What could you lose?
[12:05] What could you lose with a moderate, boring Republican?
[12:08] I can't imagine a better sell than what I did.
[12:11] No, I think it's great.
[12:12] And, you know, you're going to see a lot of people
[12:14] that take you up on that.
[12:16] And you didn't even mention the exodus of Jewish voters
[12:18] from the Democratic Party.
[12:20] Are you talking to you personally?
[12:21] Oh, I know what he's doing.
[12:22] But I'm not accepting the kindness
[12:24] because I will say this.
[12:25] And I think that it is important.
[12:30] Bruce Blakeman.
[12:31] Is a communist Nazi.
[12:33] No, of course he is not.
[12:35] I'm not saying that he is.
[12:36] He is.
[12:37] He's just a boring Republican that we're largely used to.
[12:41] But he's pro-choice, Jessica.
[12:43] Yeah, as much as this will surprise you,
[12:45] I don't wake up every morning only thinking about abortion
[12:48] and access to abortion.
[12:50] I do think about, though, I get it.
[12:53] I believe, though, in the importance of having
[12:56] sanctuary city policy to protect people
[12:59] who are not committing crimes.
[13:00] I do believe in not having cuts to health care.
[13:04] And Kathy Hochul has fought against health care cuts
[13:07] and made sure that there is more funding for people who are on Medicaid.
[13:10] I believe in needing blue state governors
[13:13] to push back against this administration.
[13:15] Just give it a shot.
[13:16] What do you got to lose?
[13:17] You don't want to lose anything.
[13:19] You can lose things.
[13:20] People can lose their health care as a result of this.
[13:23] Who?
[13:23] Who?
[13:23] Who?
[13:24] Who?
[13:24] Illegal aliens?
[13:26] Come on, think about your family, Jessica.
[13:28] Think about your family.
[13:29] You know what makes me so mad about Hochul
[13:32] is that she's made me kind of like a mean person.
[13:34] Today I was in this, I took the train
[13:36] and then I was walking from one place to the next.
[13:38] And in the subway, this guy is just sprawled,
[13:41] like lying, like asleep on the thing.
[13:44] And the workers are walking, the pregnant ladies walking by.
[13:47] And I'm like, I used to be a very compassionate person.
[13:51] And now I'm just mad.
[13:52] But that's also not Kathy Hochul.
[13:54] That's being angry at Mayor Mondani about it.
[13:56] It's the attitude of how they govern.
[13:59] That is true.
[14:01] Well, we don't.
[14:02] Bruce Almighty, give him a chance.
[14:04] Go, Bruce.
[14:05] Coming up, why does Kamala laugh like this?