'I'm not scared' Witness sa Defense matapos kuwestiyunin ang legalidad ng ginawang report — GMA News

[0:00] I will no longer specify the penalties, but it includes imprisonment and fine. [0:08] But this is not meant to scare you, sir. [0:11] I'm not scared naman po. [0:12] So, you're saying that in June 2026, based on your recollection, you were already provided with salens of the respondent from 2022 to 2025. [0:28] Wala po, AMLA, AMLA documents, AMLC documents, income tax returns? [0:34] Wala pa po. [0:35] Wala pa. [0:36] Financial statements po ng corporations. [0:39] Okay. Bank statements? [0:40] GIS. Wala pa. [0:41] Wala pa. Okay. That's clear. Okay. Thank you, sir. [0:44] Now, when these documents were handed to you or provided to you in June 2026, did the turnover of the documents to you, [0:57] or was the turnover of these documents to you covered by any transmittal letters, sir? [1:05] Harami po nung karton. Parang meron pong, ano, meron po yatang transmittal po. [1:10] Okay. But there was a transmittal letter that was given to you? [1:14] Wala pa. [1:15] And which you also received, sir? [1:17] I don't think I signed po. Pinadala po yung, pinadala po sa office ko po yung, ano. [1:23] Precisely, they were not attached to your report? [1:26] Wala pa. [1:26] That's the reason why? [1:27] Wala pa. [1:28] Okay. Now, when you received the documents from the banks and the AMLC and the BAR, may I know when you received this, sir? [1:42] If you can recall? [1:43] Bandang September na po yan eh. [1:45] Okay, September. [1:45] Apo. [1:46] Okay. When you received this subpoenaed documents, of course, it did not occur to you, or did it ever occur to you, [1:57] that you, or the person who provided the documents, the bank officers, the AMLC officers, or the BAR officers, may be violating confidentiality law, sir? [2:10] Wala po kong concern po doon. [2:12] Okay, sir. [2:12] Ang concern ko lang po yung matanggap po yung document sa prosecution at yung po yung titignan ko. [2:16] Okay, thank you for that. [2:17] Wala po kong concern doon sa outside of that po. [2:20] Thank you, sir. [2:21] We are showing you this law, sir, that I mentioned earlier. [2:27] Kindly give your answers after my question, sir. [2:31] For the AMLC report, sir, we are citing Section 8A of RA 9160, Section 8A, we are showing it on the screen, sir. [2:47] I hope you can see that. [2:49] Medyo pa. [2:50] Okay. [2:52] Section 8A provides, if I can read the first paragraph, [2:56] the AMLC and its secretariat shall securely protect information received or processed [3:03] and shall not reveal in any manner any information known to them by reason of this office, [3:08] this prohibition shall apply even after their separation from the AMLC. [3:14] And then the second provision that we will flash is, or we will show, [3:18] is Section 6 of RA 9194, which amend Section 9C of RA 9160. [3:25] Can that be shown on the screen? [3:33] Can the in-charge of the tech booth show that on screen? [3:40] Kindly blow it up a bit. [3:42] Yeah. [3:42] Kindly blow it up a bit, David. [3:44] I hope you can see that, sir. [3:53] Medyo mayro po. [3:55] Okay, I will just read it, sir, for your reference. [3:58] See ya, please, sir. [3:58] Okay. [3:59] When reporting covered or suspicious transactions to the AMLC, [4:04] covered institutions and their officers and employees [4:06] are prohibited from communicating directly or indirectly in any manner or by any means [4:13] to any person or entity, the media, the fact that a covered or suspicious transaction report was made, [4:21] the contents thereof or any other information in relation there to. [4:25] I'll stop in that portion. [4:29] And lastly, sir, the last provision regarding the AMLC records that we will show on screen [4:36] is Section 9D of RA 9194, which amends Section 14 of RA 9160. [4:44] Can that provision be shown on screen? [4:47] Then I will read it also, sir, for your reference. [4:50] Section 9, Section 14, Paragraphs C and D of the same Act are hereby amended to read as follows. [4:57] Letter D, breach of confidentiality. [5:00] I will no longer specify the penalties, but it includes imprisonment and fine. [5:09] But this is not meant to scare you, sir. [5:11] I'm not scared. [5:12] Yes, sir. [5:14] I will now ask my question, sir. [5:15] As a lawyer, you did not feel concerned that the furnishing of AMLC documents to you [5:22] and information also to you without the permission of the impeachment court may violate this laws [5:30] which we cited earlier. [5:35] Dahil na-take up na po sa house at pinagtalunan na po sa house, [5:38] kaya po ang nasa isip ko ay okay lang po yun na tanggapin ko. [5:43] Okay. Salamat po. [5:43] Now for the bank documents, we will also show Section 2 of RA-1405 or the Bank Secrecy Law. [5:52] Kindly show it on the screen. [5:55] I will also read it, sir, for your reference. [5:58] Section 2, of course, I know you are familiar with this. [6:02] Section 2, all deposits of whatever nature with banks or banking institutions in the Philippines, [6:08] including investments in bonds issued by the government of the Philippines, [6:13] its political subdivisions, and its instrumentalities are hereby considered [6:18] as of an absolutely confidential nature and may not be examined, inquired, or looked into [6:28] by any person, government, official, bureau, or office, [6:32] except upon written permission of the depositor or in cases of impeachment [6:36] or upon order of a competent court in cases of bribery or the reliction of duty [6:43] of public officials or in cases where the money deposited or investment is invested [6:47] is the subject matter of the litigation. [6:50] Now, my question, sir, is having known this law as a lawyer, [6:54] you did not feel concerned also by the furnishing of copies of bank documents to you [7:00] without the authority of the impeachment court. [7:04] Objection, Your Honor. [7:05] May I just make a manifestation instead, Your Honor, [7:20] that the witness earlier, when asked when he was provided with the documents in early June, [7:27] said that he was not yet provided with the bank records at that time. [7:31] Just to be clear, Your Honor. [7:32] Your Honor, quick reply. [7:33] The questions were asked in relation to his receipt already of the documents, [7:41] not when the documents were not yet provided to him. [7:44] No, this one. [7:45] This one. [7:45] I think Honorable Jokno was referring to the earlier questions na sinagot ng testigo, [7:50] not this one. [7:51] And the witness expressed willingness to answer. [7:53] Yes, I withdraw my objection on it. [7:55] Do you notice the witness may answer? [7:57] Opo, kaya po ako hindi concerned kasi sa 3019 po, na siya pong section 8 po na nagsasabing yung acquisition po ng property na manifestly disproportionate po sa income po. [8:10] Sir, I'm sorry, I have to stop you. [8:12] Kaya sabi po niya na bank deposits have been taken into consideration. [8:15] Your Honor, please, [8:16] Attorney Alex, [8:17] Attorney Alex, [8:18] I think that would be enough. [8:20] Again, [8:21] any further explanation not called for in the question by Attorney Christine may be dealt with by the Honorable Jokno during his redirect examination. [8:32] Yes, sir. [8:32] My only question, [8:34] my question was simple. [8:35] You did not feel concerned? [8:37] Hindi kayo nabahala when the bank documents were furnished to you by the prosecution without the authority or approval of the impeachment court? [8:48] Dahil po, 3019 po, [8:49] ang bank deposits po ay kailangan din pong matignan. [8:52] Okay, so the answer to that... [8:54] Kaya po ako hindi nabahala. [8:55] Pinapaliwanan ko lang po kung bakit po ako hindi nabahala. [8:58] Okay, so... [8:59] Nasa batas po yung bank deposits, kailangan pong i-provide. [9:02] Okay, sir. [9:02] So the answer to that is no po. [9:04] No po. [9:04] Okay.