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"Good mom and dad, right? Good mom and dad. Good somebody. Good to have you. Joe Rogan is a fantastic person. We did a little interview before the election. We had over 300 million people. And I said, oh, man, I hope Kamala doesn't do it. And she didn't. He wanted her to do it, but she didn't...."
[0:00] Good mom and dad, right?
[0:02] Good mom and dad.
[0:03] Good somebody.
[0:05] Good to have you.
[0:07] Joe Rogan is a fantastic person.
[0:10] We did a little interview before the election.
[0:14] We had over 300 million people.
[0:17] And I said, oh, man, I hope Kamala doesn't do it.
[0:20] And she didn't.
[0:21] He wanted her to do it, but she didn't.
[0:22] Someday Joe is going to explain why.
[0:25] I could tell you why.
[0:27] But along with many other veterans, because she
[0:29] didn't want to, with many other veterans.
[0:31] And I just want to thank the people behind me are
[0:33] outstanding.
[0:34] It's an amazing group.
[0:36] The executive order I'm signing — we're actually
[0:37] signing the executive order today.
[0:40] It is really a moment.
[0:42] It directs the FDA to expedite their review of
[0:47] certain psychedelics already designated as
[0:51] breakthrough therapy drugs.
[0:52] They're very much being discussed.
[0:56] Like, it's one of the hottest things I think you're
[0:58] talking about, Oz, right?
[0:59] It's nothing — if these turn out to be as good as
[1:02] people are saying, it's going to have a tremendous
[1:05] impact on this country and other countries, too.
[1:09] These treatments are currently in the advanced
[1:11] stages of clinical trials to ensure that they're
[1:13] both safe and effective for the American patients.
[1:17] And the nice part is, we're actually doing this
[1:19] early, but it has been going on, which has been
[1:21] going on for quite some time.
[1:24] But, you know, usually with things like this,
[1:26] nothing ever happens, no matter how the research
[1:29] ends up, but with changing the disorder, we'll clear
[1:32] away unnecessary bureaucratic hurdles, improve data
[1:36] sharing among the FDA and the Department of Veterans
[1:38] Affairs, and facilitate fast rescheduling of any
[1:42] psychedelic drugs that become FDA-approved.
[1:45] And we think many of them will go very quickly.
[1:48] And I have to say, the most favored nation's pricing
[1:52] that we established — that I established — has
[1:55] been knocking the cost of drugs down by 50, 60, 70,
[1:59] 80 percent.
[2:00] And I also want to thank you and Bobby for the great
[2:02] job you've done.
[2:03] It's incredible.
[2:04] And the press refuses to write about it.
[2:06] I think it's — it's probably as big as what we're
[2:09] talking about today.
[2:10] The drug costs are going — are going down at — and
[2:13] by the way, Trump Rx, which is the way you go to get
[2:17] your very low-cost drugs.
[2:18] But when you think, in my first term, for 28 years
[2:24] drug prices went up, and I got it down one-quarter
[2:27] or one-eighth of a percent.
[2:28] I was so proud of myself.
[2:29] It's the only one that, in 28 years, got — got them
[2:32] down.
[2:33] And I had a news conference to explain how great I was.
[2:37] I said, I'm the greatest there ever was.
[2:38] I got it down one-eighth of a percent.
[2:40] Okay?
[2:41] I was very proud, because it only went up.
[2:43] For 28 years, it went up.
[2:44] Now, I got it down a little bit.
[2:46] And now I got it down 50 percent, 60 percent,
[2:50] 70 percent with these guys.
[2:52] So now I am, you know.
[2:53] But nobody wants to write about it.
[2:55] But it doesn't matter, because the people have
[2:57] found out, and they're getting — you know, we're
[2:59] the highest — we were — the highest in the world,
[3:02] by far.
[3:04] Sometimes would be 10 times higher than other
[3:06] countries.
[3:06] You'd buy a drug — I call it the fat pill or the
[3:10] fat drug.
[3:11] You'd buy it in London.
[3:13] You'd buy it for $10 for a pill, let's say.
[3:15] Or a pill, generally.
[3:17] But actually, to be specific, London, $87.
[3:20] New York, $1,300.
[3:23] I said, how can that be possible?
[3:25] How can it be possible?
[3:26] $87.
[3:28] And actually, a friend of mine called me up, and
[3:30] he said, you know, he's a very rich guy.
[3:33] But — and he happens to be on this — this —
[3:36] it was Epic, I guess, at the time.
[3:39] And it had — it was not working, by the way.
[3:42] The guy was extremely —
[3:43] extremely successful, but highly neurotic, got a
[3:47] lot of problems.
[3:48] I will not mention his name.
[3:50] He's begging me not to mention this, because he's
[3:52] become quite famous.
[3:53] He's a big factor here.
[3:55] But he's a very smart, very rich guy, very, very
[3:57] successful guy.
[3:58] And he said, hey, President — he used to call me
[4:01] Donnie, now he calls me President, sign of respect.
[4:04] He said, I'm in London.
[4:06] And I bought this stuff for 87 bucks.
[4:08] In New York, I pay — I pay $1,300.
[4:12] What's going on?
[4:13] I said, well, that's the way it is.
[4:14] We pay the highest prices in the world.
[4:16] And it sort of hit me at how ridiculous it is.
[4:20] Made, by the way — he checked it.
[4:21] He had a whole big research done on it, because he
[4:23] couldn't believe it — made it the same factory,
[4:26] same plant, same — everything was the same,
[4:28] except the price.
[4:30] And now we are the lowest price.
[4:32] We are tied — in other words, whatever the
[4:34] lowest price in the world is.
[4:36] That's the price we pay.
[4:37] That's a tremendous difference.
[4:38] So we'll be paying — they'll go — they go
[4:41] up a little bit.
[4:42] So the 87 will go, like, to 120, and we'll go
[4:44] down from 1,300 to 120.
[4:47] So we'll have these massive price cuts.
[4:49] And they've already started.
[4:50] And I think it's one of the biggest things.
[4:52] But, unfortunately, the press doesn't like to
[4:54] talk about it.
[4:55] But — because it's a — if I were a Democrat, it
[4:57] would be headlines all over the place.
[4:59] But — so I do that.
[5:01] That's why I like live television, actually.
[5:03] It's great because you can't do any cutting.
[5:06] But we're so honored by that.
[5:08] And that's going to have a huge impact on this also,
[5:11] because the pricing — not only is it important,
[5:13] but the pricing is going good.
[5:16] And you're going to get the rescheduling done, right,
[5:17] please?
[5:18] So we get — will you get the rescheduling done, please?
[5:20] You know, they're — Joe, they're slow-walking me
[5:22] on rescheduling.
[5:24] Okay?
[5:25] You're going to get it done, right?
[5:27] In 2024, a study from Stanford University, 30
[5:30] Special Operations Veterans with Traumatic Brain Injuries
[5:34] underwent — it's called ibogaine treatment.
[5:40] Ibogaine.
[5:41] Remember the name.
[5:42] Is that pronounced relatively properly,
[5:44] what you said?
[5:44] Yes, sir.
[5:45] The President Trump — I don't want to get it wrong.
[5:47] Ibogaine, because it's so important.
[5:48] And experienced an 80 to 90 percent reduction in
[5:51] symptoms of depression and anxiety within one month.
[5:57] Can I have some, please?
[5:57] I'll take whatever it takes.
[6:06] I don't have time to be depressed.
[6:08] You know, if you stay busy enough, maybe that works, too.
[6:12] That's what I do.
[6:13] In Texas, Republican leaders have already committed
[6:16] $50 million to the ibogaine research.
[6:19] And today, the federal government is making a $50 million
[6:22] research investment in its own.
[6:25] And so that was just approved just last night.
[6:28] We're also opening a pathway for ibogaine to be
[6:31] administered to desperately ill patients
[6:33] under the Right to Try law.
[6:36] That's a law that I started and I got — Right to Try.
[6:40] Very proud of that.
[6:41] That was done in my first term.
[6:42] And I used to marvel at the fact that people that
[6:45] were terminally ill could not get a drug.
[6:47] They're terminally ill.
[6:48] They're going to die.
[6:50] And the FDA — right, Marty?
[6:52] That's right.
[6:52] Jay?
[6:53] The FDA was protecting them from dying, but they're going to die.
[6:58] And so we have these incredible drugs, and they may work
[7:01] and they may not work, but we wouldn't let anybody get them
[7:04] because they were bad for your health.
[7:05] But these are people that were going to die.
[7:08] And it never made sense to me.
[7:09] So one of the first things I did early in my term — and it was
[7:11] very tough to get, actually.
[7:13] Hard to believe.
[7:13] It was very tough with Congress, but they came through.
[7:15] The Republicans came through.
[7:18] And we have something called Right to Try.
[7:19] And we've saved thousands and thousands of lives.
[7:22] That's — if you're terminally ill or very ill, and there is a new drug
[7:28] that is not available because it's gone through the process of the FDA.
[7:32] And Marty's cut that process down by 50 percent.
[7:35] We're down — it used to take 12 years, and now we have it down to five or six years.
[7:40] And it's one of the most important things that you can do.
[7:44] But if you're terminally ill and there's a new drug that may work
[7:49] or may not work, but it hasn't been approved yet,
[7:52] you sign a document and you're not going to hold the country liable.
[7:55] You're not going to hold the drug companies
[7:57] or the insurance companies or anybody liable.
[8:00] And you have the right to try.
[8:01] And what it's done — and nobody wanted it.
[8:04] The insurance companies hated it.
[8:06] Even the doctors — they were all afraid of it
[8:07] because they didn't want to be sued.
[8:09] But it took all of the liability out of it.
[8:11] You sign a document, you're not going to sue the doctor.
[8:13] You're not going to sue the hospital.
[8:14] You're not going to sue anybody, including the country.
[8:17] And everybody signs it, like, immediately.
[8:19] And we have tens of thousands of people on this.
[8:23] And we've saved thousands and thousands of lives.
[8:27] And what it has done — we never thought of it so much as,
[8:29] but what it has done is, in some cases,
[8:31] these drugs are working so good,
[8:33] it literally cures people that were terminally ill.
[8:37] But it's one of the things I'm most proud —
[8:39] I'm proud of a lot of things we've done,
[8:41] but that's one of the things we're most proud of —
[8:44] right to try.
[8:46] But I've always believed in ensuring
[8:48] that the American patients have access
[8:50] to breakthrough treatments and therapies
[8:52] with love for our veterans.
[8:53] And I have real love for our veterans.
[8:55] I was with a group yesterday.
[8:56] It's incredible what they've gone through.
[8:58] And care for American patients —
[9:00] today's order will ensure that people suffering
[9:03] from debilitating symptoms might finally have a chance
[9:07] to reclaim their lives and lead a happier life.
[9:10] They've been through so much.
[9:13] So I'd like to ask Secretary Kennedy to say a few words,
[9:16] followed by Commissioner McCary,
[9:19] Marcus Luttrell, Joe Rogan,
[9:22] and anybody in the group that would like to speak.
[9:26] You're tremendous people.
[9:27] I know many of you are —
[9:29] you're really highly respected people.
[9:31] And the Luttrell family is well represented,
[9:33] but I don't mind having both Luttrells —
[9:35] both Luttrells can say a few words, okay?
[9:38] Great people. And so, Bobby,
[9:40] do you want to start it off, please?
[9:42] Thank you, Mr. President.
[9:43] Thank you so much.
[9:44] Good morning, and thanks to the leadership
[9:46] of President Trump for making this historic day possible.
[9:50] Under the executive order, HHS will accelerate research,
[9:55] approval, and access to new mental health treatments,
[9:57] including psychedelic therapies such as Ibogaine.
[10:02] For taking this decision, this decisive step,
[10:05] to confront one of the most urgent public health challenges facing our nation,
[10:09] the mental health crisis.
[10:11] More than 14 million Americans live with serious mental illness,
[10:16] and one in four adult experiences a diagnosable disorder each year.
[10:23] Suicide has risen by more than 30 percent over the past two decades,
[10:28] with another peak in recent years.
[10:30] Among veterans, more than 6,000 die by suicide each year since 2001.
[10:37] We have lost far more veterans to suicide than to combat.
[10:42] At the same time, millions of Americans living with depression,
[10:45] PTSD, addiction, and other conditions do not respond to existing treatments.
[10:52] We owe it to our warfighters and veterans to turn over every stone
[10:57] to alleviate the emotional and mental health blowback from their deployments.
[11:02] It's disturbing to me and to the President that hundreds,
[11:06] in fact, thousands of veterans are having to travel to Mexico
[11:10] or other countries to experiment with interventions
[11:14] that hold great promise but for which our knowledge is still insufficient.
[11:21] This executive order will remove the legal impediments
[11:24] that blocked American researchers, scientists, physicians,
[11:28] and clinicians from properly studying these medicines,
[11:33] and where appropriate, establishing protocols
[11:36] for their safe therapeutic use.
[11:39] We're directing the FDA to prioritize therapies
[11:42] that have received breakthrough therapy designation treatments
[11:46] that early evidence suggests may improve what we have today.
[11:51] We're expanding the use of right-to-try so that eligible patients
[11:56] with treatment-resistant conditions can access these therapies
[11:59] under medical supervision.
[12:01] We're also coordinating with the DEA and the Department of Justice
[12:05] to begin rescheduling reviews after successful Phase III trials.
[12:11] When the FDA determines the therapy is safe and effective,
[12:14] patients should not face avoidable delays in access.
[12:19] At the same time, HHS will work with states, the Department of Veterans Affairs,
[12:24] and other federal partners to strengthen research and share clinical data.
[12:29] We will use that data to support faster evidence-based decisions.
[12:34] Through ARPA-H, HHS will allocate, as the President says,
[12:38] at least $50 million from existing funds to partner with states
[12:42] that are advancing these therapies.
[12:45] We will support those efforts with funding, with technical assistance,
[12:49] and data sharing consistent with applicable law.
[12:53] Researchers at Johns Hopkins, Stanford, and Harvard,
[12:56] and other leading institutions have reported meaningful
[13:00] and, in some cases, extraordinary clinical improvements.
[13:04] If these results continue, these therapies could offer longer-lasting relief,
[13:10] not just symptom management, and reduce economic burden of mental illness,
[13:15] which cost this country hundreds of billions of dollars every year.
[13:19] This policy creates a strict, science-based pathway for FDA approval
[13:25] and controlled medical use.
[13:26] The bottom line is progress in mental health treatment has not matched this.
[13:31] I want to thank Joe Rogan for helping bring national attention
[13:35] to innovative, potentially life-saving treatments for veterans
[13:39] and others living with mental illness,
[13:41] and for pushing this conversation into the mainstream.
[13:45] I also want to thank Representative Morgan Luttrell from Texas
[13:51] and former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell for their leadership on this issue.
[13:56] I also want to thank the CEO of American Tribe again, Brian Hubbard,
[14:00] and the organization's ambassador, former Navy SEAL Henry Berkowitz,
[14:06] and former SEAL Team 6, Rob O'Neill.
[14:10] I want to thank a couple of people for getting this record time across the finish line,
[14:15] Kelly Means, and Dr. Heidi Overton.
[14:18] Thank you, Heidi, for your leadership and for your attention to detail.
[14:23] It is often frustrating.
[14:25] I'm always right.
[14:27] So thank you.
[14:28] And thank you, above all, Mr. President.
[14:31] Thank you very much, Bobby, and you're fantastic.
[14:34] Bobby's really done an amazing job.
[14:37] You know, Maha, it's a big deal.
[14:40] And I want to thank you.
[14:42] You really, you work so hard, Oz and everybody up here.
[14:47] And I just want to thank you. Great job.
[14:49] And he's somewhat outside of the box, would you say?
[14:51] And that we need outside of the box a little bit, right?
[14:53] Would you say, Oz? Marty, please.
[14:56] Great. Thank you, Mr. President.
[14:58] Next week, the FDA will issue three national priority vouchers
[15:03] for serotonin 2A agonists, also known as psychedelics.
[15:07] Under this new program, in this administration,
[15:10] drugs can get approved in weeks, not a year or a year plus,
[15:14] but in weeks, if they are in line with our national priorities.
[15:18] We have 18 vouchers in the program.
[15:20] We'll be adding three more next week.
[15:22] This is an unmet public health need,
[15:25] and there are potentially promising treatments.
[15:28] That's why there's a sense of urgency around this.
[15:30] That's why we're doing it now.
[15:32] The applications are about to come in,
[15:34] so this is the natural, perfect timing for this announcement.
[15:39] For many men and women,
[15:41] they have been fighting battles on the ground.
[15:44] But even after the wars are over,
[15:46] those battles continue in their mind.
[15:49] Now, there are a lot of medications in medicine
[15:52] where we don't know exactly how it works,
[15:55] but we see profound results.
[15:59] If we actually listen to those who experience the therapeutic value,
[16:05] we can learn as a medical field.
[16:07] We just have to listen.
[16:09] The stories of those individuals with dramatic results,
[16:14] that is data.
[16:15] That is scientific data, even from a single individual.
[16:19] We also have randomized control trials, and we have to do that,
[16:24] because we need to be able to say,
[16:26] there's good support when we recommend these therapeutics.
[16:29] If you look at those trials,
[16:30] there's a 30 to 40 percent remission rate for conditions like PTSD.
[16:35] Otherwise, we got nothing.
[16:37] We have almost nothing for these conditions.
[16:41] And today, the FDA is also announcing
[16:43] the first Ibogaine investigational new drug clearance.
[16:47] This will pave the way for the first and ever human trials
[16:51] in the United States.
[16:54] To be clear, the FDA will also have criteria and circumstances
[16:58] that have to be used to administer these drugs.
[17:01] These drugs can have side effects,
[17:04] and so it's not like you go to the pharmacy and pick it up.
[17:07] It's like medications that are administered in an ICU
[17:11] or an operating room.
[17:12] There are criteria for doing it in a controlled setting.
[17:17] Finally, given the urgency of today's mental health crisis,
[17:20] I just want to thank you, Mr. President,
[17:23] and say the FDA is proud to support this broader effort
[17:27] to evaluate new therapeutics
[17:29] for some of the greatest Americans we have in this country.
[17:32] The President, thank you very much.
[17:33] Thank you, Mr. President.
[17:34] Great job, too. Appreciate it.
[17:36] Marcus?
[17:36] The President, yes, sir.
[17:38] To start off, Mr. President,
[17:38] thank you so much for having us in here and doing this.
[17:40] You're going to save a lot of lives with it.
[17:42] I'd like to say how grateful I am
[17:45] to have had the opportunity to go through the program
[17:47] and receive the Ibogaine.
[17:48] It absolutely changed my life for the better.
[17:50] I went through a lot of the programs
[17:52] that the veterans are going through,
[17:53] and I always kind of felt like I was a victim
[17:54] coming out of the program.
[17:56] When I came out of this,
[17:57] I felt like I had gotten my life back.
[17:59] That was five years ago.
[18:01] I literally lived the best days of my life every single day.
[18:04] I'm so thankful for everybody who's in this room
[18:06] to help out with this.
[18:07] I know this is kind of a new frontier for us,
[18:09] and just the fact that we're taking this kind of slow,
[18:12] smooth, smooth is fast,
[18:13] and we're getting it in there so we can test this out
[18:15] so we don't get ahead of ourselves.
[18:17] I think that's very impactful.
[18:19] I think there's a lot of people out there that need help,
[18:20] not only our veterans, but our civilian population
[18:23] that can benefit from this.
[18:25] And it's going to do great things for our country
[18:27] to get it back on track and open up a lot of doorways
[18:29] and pathways for us to be successful in the future.
[18:32] Thank you for your time.
[18:33] The President's fantastic.
[18:33] So you've done this five years?
[18:36] The President's Yes, sir.
[18:37] The President's And it's just been a whole different day.
[18:38] The President's Every single day is a better day for me.
[18:40] The President's Wow. That's amazing.
[18:41] I can doubt for that.
[18:45] The President's Come here. Look, this guy's got guts.
[18:47] Come here. These guys. Two good guys.
[18:50] I didn't realize you were involved in it already.
[18:52] It's the best testament you can have.
[18:54] There's nothing better than that.
[18:56] A man who's really respected by everybody,
[18:58] and he's a fantastic person.
[19:00] Joe Rogan, to say a few words. Please, Joe.
[19:03] Joe Rogan, I want to say that I'm here
[19:04] because of the man to my left.
[19:06] Brian Hubbard and former Texas Governor Rick Perry
[19:08] came on my podcast. They told me how impactful
[19:12] this medicine is.
[19:15] And having that conversation with them,
[19:18] millions of people got a chance to hear their story,
[19:21] hear the stories of all the different people
[19:23] that have had life-changing experiences from it.
[19:26] And I want Brian to be able to speak about this.
[19:30] Good. Brian, please.
[19:31] Thank you, sir.
[19:33] I heard that, Joe.
[19:35] You have no trouble speaking.
[19:38] He's got no trouble speaking.
[19:40] I want to assure you that my presence here
[19:43] is the most concrete affirmation
[19:44] that God has a wonderful sense of humor.
[19:46] Thank you.
[19:52] Thank you.
[19:56] Federal prohibition of psychedelic medicine
[20:00] in America is over.
[20:02] On the 250th year,
[20:09] on the 250th year of our nation's founding,
[20:14] everyone who has fought for this day
[20:16] through decades of monumental struggle, sacrifice,
[20:22] and suffering can now declare a seminal victory
[20:27] for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,
[20:32] rights we bear as images of our eternal creator,
[20:37] whose essence is almighty, eternal, unconditional love
[20:42] for each and every one of us.
[20:46] This is the end of the beginning.
[20:50] We have moved mountains, yet there are mountains to move.
[20:54] Government systems which have relentlessly suppressed
[20:57] psychedelics are the same systems
[21:00] which will now manage their emergence.
[21:03] We dare not let our guard down for one second
[21:06] and be higher trigger-ready to impose accountability
[21:09] for incompetence, obstruction, or failure.
[21:14] Credit belongs, for credit is due.
[21:18] With this executive order, President Trump has delivered
[21:23] an epic victory for all humanity.
[21:28] I thank him for having the courage to make this happen,
[21:33] and my mission brother, Joe Rogan,
[21:37] for having the spine to make the ask.
[21:41] To our brothers and sisters in Gabon,
[21:45] you have our deepest gratitude for your stewardship
[21:49] of the sacred tree grown for the healing of nations.
[21:53] I will do my best to deliver the respect and honor
[21:59] you deserve for helping heal this nation.
[22:04] It is my joy to deliver these good tidings unto the meek,
[22:09] which will hopefully bind up the brokenhearted,
[22:13] proclaim liberty to the captives,
[22:15] and the opening of the prison to all who are bound.
[22:20] God bless you, and God bless America.
[22:23] The President, President Trump,
[22:30] how this happened.
[22:32] I sent President Trump some information.
[22:34] We have a gigantic opiate problem in this country,
[22:37] obviously.
[22:38] In 2024, more than 80,000 people died of overdoses.
[22:42] It's a horrible number.
[22:44] And there's more than 5 million people
[22:47] that are addicted to opiates right now in this country.
[22:49] With one dose of Ibogaine, more than 80% of people
[22:53] are free of that addiction.
[22:54] With two doses, it's more than 90%.
[22:57] I sent him that information.
[23:00] The text message came back,
[23:02] sounds great.
[23:03] Do you want FDA approval?
[23:04] Let's do it.
[23:05] It was literally that quick.
[23:09] These drugs are illegal not because they're harmful.
[23:12] They're illegal because of the 1970
[23:15] Controlled Substances Act that was passed
[23:17] by the Richard Nixon administration.
[23:19] They did it to target the civil rights movement
[23:21] and the anti-war movement.
[23:23] It's not because these drugs harm people.
[23:25] And for 56 years, we've lived under those terrible conditions.
[23:32] We're free of that now.
[23:33] We're free of that now.
[23:35] Thanks to all these people that you see next to me,
[23:38] and thanks to President Trump.
[23:41] I want to thank you.
[23:49] We all respect Joe,
[23:50] and he's a little bit more liberal than me.
[23:53] But that's okay.
[23:56] I have a lot of friends that are liberal.
[23:58] But Joe is an amazing guy.
[24:01] And he wrote me a little note about this.
[24:03] And I had it checked out.
[24:04] I didn't just do it.
[24:05] I had it checked out.
[24:06] I went to Bobby and Oz.
[24:08] I went to some of the people that work for you, real pros.
[24:11] And everybody came back with the same answer.
[24:13] You know, normally they'll come back,
[24:14] because this happens a lot.
[24:16] We have a couple of them like that,
[24:17] where they're not sure.
[24:19] It's like, you know, it goes two ways.
[24:21] This thing, everybody thought it was incredible.
[24:25] And I told Bobby, I said, Bobby, let's just do it
[24:29] and get Oz involved.
[24:31] And it's going to get done so quickly.
[24:33] And you guys did a great job.
[24:35] Would you like to say something else?
[24:37] Mr. President, I want to thank Matt Zord,
[24:38] who's hiding in the back there,
[24:39] who actually on Sunday wrote a draft for this.
[24:42] You already thanked Heidi and Kelly,
[24:43] but Susie Wiles makes everything run here.
[24:47] This was an unimaginable task in one week,
[24:49] to be able to go from a series of connections
[24:52] and communications with Joe Rogan through.
[24:54] The honey badger of them all, Bobby Kennedy,
[24:56] who said, we're not going to stop.
[24:57] We didn't start calling everyone down.
[24:58] The wife, Steph Spears, has been involved.
[25:00] And Chris Klump, who's been doing a fantastic job,
[25:03] helping run everything in great efficiency,
[25:06] made something, and I just want to emphasize this.
[25:08] This is an entire paradigm shift,
[25:10] away from a one-day-a-pill model,
[25:12] which has failed so many.
[25:14] And the many who are drug-resistant
[25:16] that Joe just spoke to,
[25:18] this offers them a way of getting out of that rut.
[25:20] The question now is,
[25:21] can we study why it works,
[25:22] to understand it better, to use it better?
[25:24] That's what Jay Bhattachary is going to do,
[25:25] NIH, with major funding support,
[25:27] perhaps some ARPA as well.
[25:29] Marty spoke eloquently about the FDA's
[25:31] accelerated pathway for this.
[25:32] And then, when we learn more,
[25:34] figure out better ways of getting access
[25:36] to these products through our healthcare system.
[25:39] This is an extraordinarily exciting day,
[25:40] and it would never happen
[25:41] if the president just would not take no for an answer.
[25:44] He called on the way, Joe, to the fight on Saturday,
[25:47] and I think he was as determined to get this done
[25:50] as the men in those rings,
[25:52] and women in those rings that night.
[25:54] Thank you, sir.
[25:55] I want to thank Professor Nolan Williams.
[26:04] When I was a professor at Stanford,
[26:05] I got to know him,
[26:07] and he taught me about Ida Gain
[26:09] and all the promise that it has
[26:10] for treatment-resistant depression
[26:13] and so many other conditions.
[26:14] And frankly, for me, I learned a lot.
[26:17] He unfortunately passed away last year.
[26:20] I want to thank this amazing team
[26:21] that just moved heaven and earth to get things done.
[26:24] I do want to emphasize,
[26:26] this is something that we're still studying,
[26:27] and we have to keep studying.
[26:28] We have to figure out the right way
[26:30] to make sure we administer it,
[26:32] that it's safe, that we don't just take it for granted.
[26:35] We already know everything, because we don't.
[26:37] And for the NIH and for ARPA-H,
[26:38] we are absolutely committed to making sure
[26:40] that we keep studying it,
[26:42] keep getting the best gold-standard science on it.
[26:45] You see here Nora Volkow,
[26:47] who's my National Institute of Drug Abuse director.
[26:51] She's been an absolute hero
[26:53] in just developing scientific.
[26:55] So the commitment for American science
[26:58] to focus on this, and in many ways,
[27:00] that scientific advance has brought us to this moment.
[27:03] So thank you. Thank you, President Trump.
[27:04] The President Trump Jr.: But if it's good,
[27:05] we want to get it fully approved fast, right?
[27:07] The President Trump Jr.: I mean, for the things
[27:07] that have great evidence, and that's what the point is.
[27:09] The President Trump Jr.: Because, you know,
[27:10] these studies, they've gone for a long time.
[27:11] I think it's good.
[27:12] The President Trump Jr.: I mean, I have a witness right here.
[27:14] These two incredible brothers.
[27:16] That, to me, is a study, right?
[27:18] The President Trump Jr.: I mean, it's just, just as
[27:19] Commissioner McCary said,
[27:21] there's stuff that we know and we can,
[27:23] we can tell it works.
[27:25] We still have got to figure out sometimes how it works
[27:27] or why it works.
[27:28] That we've got to keep doing,
[27:29] even as we move forward fast.
[27:31] The President Trump Jr.: But it does work.
[27:32] The President Trump Jr.: Some of those, I mean,
[27:33] absolutely.
[27:33] Some of those treatments absolutely work.
[27:35] The President Trump Jr.: Yes, it works.
[27:36] The President Trump Jr.: You can see the testament here.
[27:37] The President Trump Jr.: I'm trying to get the answer,
[27:39] because it either works or it doesn't.
[27:41] I would think that there's been a lot of research already.
[27:45] Indirect research, maybe the ultimate research,
[27:47] people that have taken it.
[27:48] Because I've spoken to people that have taken it,
[27:51] aside from the trail, both of them.
[27:54] I've spoken to five people that had big problems.
[27:58] The President Trump Jr.: Mr. President, it works.
[27:59] The President Trump Jr.: That had big problems.
[28:00] The President Trump Jr.: It's done it three times.
[28:00] The President Trump Jr.: Yeah, please.
[28:01] The President Trump Jr.: It fixed my demonic relationship.
[28:04] The President Trump Jr.: This is Rob O'Neill,
[28:05] who's a friend of mine and a great guy.
[28:07] Go ahead.
[28:08] The President Trump Jr.: It fixed my demonic relationship with alcohol.
[28:10] It saved my life and then it saved my wife.
[28:12] So every day is a blessing.
[28:14] It took about three years of ... I did it three times.
[28:16] It's a different adventure every time.
[28:19] That's not fun.
[28:20] The President Trump Jr.: So without it,
[28:21] you would have had problems?
[28:23] The President Trump Jr.: I did it with ...
[28:24] There was a Green Beret 28-year sergeant major
[28:26] that told me when we finished,
[28:28] make sure you tell Amber Capone,
[28:30] the CEO of Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions,
[28:32] that she saved my life,
[28:33] because I was going to kill myself next week.
[28:35] This was my last chance.
[28:36] I had a 28-year veteran tell me that.
[28:38] This works.
[28:39] The President Trump Jr.: Okay, good.
[28:40] The President Trump Jr.: Mr. President,
[28:42] could you ask Marcus to speak about his experience?
[28:45] The President Trump Jr.: Thank you, Secretary.
[28:47] Yeah, Mr. President,
[28:49] what Rob O'Neill was talking about,
[28:50] my wife Amber Capone is the CEO of our charity Vets,
[28:53] Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions.
[28:55] We had prayed for this day to come 10 years ago
[28:58] when we started the charity.
[28:59] We've been sending veterans outside the country,
[29:01] Joe, that you've been talking about for years,
[29:03] several thousand now.
[29:04] And we said the mission will end once this day happens.
[29:07] So we believe this is a huge step
[29:09] and maybe that the mission goes away
[29:11] and now we have affordable access right here in the U.S.
[29:13] The President Trump Jr.: Why didn't they get it done?
[29:15] The President Trump Jr.: We're getting it done, right?
[29:15] You're getting it done.
[29:17] The President Trump Jr.: Why get other presidents looking at it, right?
[29:20] Why didn't they get it done?
[29:22] The President Trump Jr.: I think we needed you.
[29:23] The President Trump Jr.: That's my job.
[29:24] I can answer that question, sir.
[29:25] The President Trump Jr.: Go ahead, please.
[29:27] The President Trump Jr.: There's a small group of us in the House
[29:30] that had been trying to move legislation since I showed up.
[29:35] Mr. Correa, Mr. Bergman, Mr. McCaul, Mr. Crenshaw,
[29:38] every year have tried to move legislation.
[29:40] That side of the room is not going to like what I have to say about this.
[29:43] And every year it has all fallen short.
[29:46] Every year it has all fallen short.
[29:48] And it's because of the proverbial roadblocks
[29:51] that are always in the way.
[29:52] The President Trump Jr.: Right, that's right.
[29:53] The President Trump Jr.: Fair assessment.
[29:56] But those members of myself were convicted never to give up, ever.
[30:01] And with this executive order — I'm going to maintain a composure,
[30:04] Mr. President — with this executive order,
[30:06] you have broken down those barriers and allowed us —
[30:10] we could — I have all the faith in the world
[30:12] that this will codify and remain forever.
[30:14] So thank you very much for taking care of your service members
[30:16] and your veterans and giving the members
[30:18] that have been working on this for so long a chance.
[30:21] Thank you, sir.
[30:22] The President Trump Jr.: Well, this, when I signed this,
[30:23] this does solve it for the three-year,
[30:27] but we'll get that — we'll get that codified very easily.
[30:29] The President Trump Jr.: Absolutely. Thank you.
[30:30] The President Trump Jr.: Once they sign it, we get them codified.
[30:32] So that'll be — we'll make it — we'll make it permanent.
[30:35] I have no doubt it's going to be working.
[30:37] Would anybody else like to say something?
[30:40] These two women are so talented.
[30:42] The President Trump Jr.: Well, I love an executive order
[30:44] that says, research, research, research,
[30:47] because it's ultimately what guides us
[30:49] on how to optimally do things.
[30:51] The President Trump Jr.: That's right.
[30:52] The President Trump Jr.: And I think that this is what,
[30:54] hopefully, will start to happen,
[30:56] and bringing up change in a system
[30:58] that has been very difficult to modify
[31:02] because of prior experiences.
[31:05] These drugs have unique characteristics
[31:07] that could actually, if we don't investigate them,
[31:10] can bring us into potential applications
[31:13] that currently we're not thinking about.
[31:15] But if we close the door to science,
[31:17] if we close the door to data,
[31:19] we'll just keep on doing the same thing again and again.
[31:21] The President Trump Jr.: Was that door closed?
[31:22] The President Trump Jr.: Do you think the door was closed?
[31:23] The President Trump Jr.: It was hard.
[31:24] The President Trump Jr.: It was hard to do research.
[31:25] The President Trump Jr.: It's very, very hard.
[31:26] And it's actually just by scheduling as I want,
[31:28] it makes it very difficult.
[31:29] The President Trump Jr.: So this is a big move, then.
[31:30] The President Trump Jr.: It is going to have-
[31:31] The President Trump Jr.: It will facilitate-
[31:32] The President Trump Jr.: Bigger than just this one thing
[31:34] that we're talking about.
[31:36] That's good.
[31:37] That's good.
[31:38] I'm glad we didn't waste the Saturday morning.
[31:39] The President Trump Jr.:
[31:41] The President Trump Jr.: Please.
[31:42] Yes, Mr. President, this is a much-needed bold move
[31:47] for precision mental health for our veterans and others,
[31:52] and accelerates access to personalised targeted treatment.
[31:58] As you have heard, many, many veterans and others
[32:02] experiencing mental health disorders,
[32:04] they go through up to years of trial and error,
[32:09] trying one treatment that doesn't work,
[32:10] trying another and not knowing why.
[32:13] My work at Stanford and with my colleagues is to develop
[32:18] brain-based tests that can be measured right now
[32:23] in our VA and other locations that help us understand
[32:27] why these new treatments work
[32:29] and who they'll be most effective for.
[32:33] So with your mandate, we are in a position
[32:36] to really accelerate saving lives of many more people
[32:40] and getting them well sooner.
[32:42] And I believe that with this,
[32:44] the United States will be the first country in the world
[32:48] to treat mental health like we do cancer
[32:52] and like we do many other chronic mental illnesses.
[32:56] Thank you.
[32:57] The President Trump Jr.: We know the world is actually watching this,
[33:04] because there are a lot of countries that want to do this,
[33:08] and they haven't been able to.
[33:09] They're going to be following suit very, very strongly.
[33:12] Thank you very much, both.
[33:14] Anybody else? You guys okay? Everybody?
[33:16] Let's sign it, right?
[33:17] You want me to say something?
[33:18] The President Trump Jr.: Mr. President, thank you.
[33:20] This treatment saved my life as well,
[33:22] and so many fellow veterans helped me get off opiates,
[33:25] stopped using a nerve stimulator I hadn't planted,
[33:27] sleep for the first time in over 10 years.
[33:29] So thank you.
[33:31] The President Trump Jr.: And you have no doubt, right?
[33:33] The President Trump Jr.: Zero.
[33:33] The President Trump Jr.: Well, that's, to me,
[33:34] that's the best research of all, frankly.
[33:37] The President Trump Jr.: Absolutely.
[33:38] The President Trump Jr.: Okay, it's my honor.
[33:51] Dude, that's a good one.
[33:52] Oh, I wanted this work.
[33:53] The President Trump Jr.: See that, Joe?
[33:55] The President Trump Jr.: No.
[33:56] The President Trump Jr.: You think Biden can do that?
[33:57] The President Trump Jr.: You have questions of the folks,
[34:15] and I think we'll keep it on the subject pretty much.
[34:17] You'll have some questions on Iran, I know that.
[34:20] But this is such an important subject
[34:22] that I'd rather let this just speak for itself.
[34:25] And we'll be talking about Iran later.
[34:27] We have very good conversations going on.
[34:30] It's working out very well.
[34:32] They got a little cued, as they have been doing for 47 years,
[34:35] and nobody ever took them on, we took them on.
[34:38] They have no Navy, they have no Air Force,
[34:42] they have no leaders, they have no-
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