About this transcript: This is a full AI-generated transcript of Rep. Defensor's opening statement as prosecution presents witnesses for VP's 'grave threat' from ANC 24/7, published July 7, 2026. The transcript contains 2,743 words with timestamps and was generated using Whisper AI.
"The Honorable Defensor is recognized. You may proceed, sir. Thank you so much, Your Honor. Honorable Senator Judges, knowing the 22nd of June 20, 2026, the whole country was angry and brought up the whole world in the evening of a study. Sorry, excuse me. Your Honor, may I be allowed to finish my..."
[00:00:00] The Honorable Defensor is recognized. You may proceed, sir.
[00:00:03] Thank you so much, Your Honor.
[00:00:05] Honorable Senator Judges,
[00:00:08] knowing the 22nd of June 20, 2026,
[00:00:13] the whole country was angry and brought up the whole world
[00:00:16] in the evening of a study.
[00:00:20] Sorry, excuse me.
[00:00:21] Your Honor, may I be allowed to finish my manifestation?
[00:00:24] I will not disrespect and interrupt the Defense Council once he has started.
[00:00:28] This is no disrespect, sir.
[00:00:30] Counsel for Respondent is recognized.
[00:00:32] Thank you, Your Honor.
[00:00:33] Your Honor, this is improper for trial.
[00:00:37] This is not a manifestation proper for court procedure.
[00:00:41] This is instead them telling a story.
[00:00:43] This is a narration by the prosecution,
[00:00:46] which is not allowed by any rule in any court.
[00:00:50] So what is proper is that they present their first witness.
[00:00:54] We will be presenting our witness, Your Honor.
[00:00:56] However, please allow us to freely advocate our position,
[00:01:00] including the Defense when it's their turn.
[00:01:03] We will not object to the same.
[00:01:05] Counselor Respondent, kindly let him finish.
[00:01:06] Thank you, Your Honor.
[00:01:06] Thank you so much, Your Honor.
[00:01:07] I will respond to you.
[00:01:09] Yes, you were saying.
[00:01:10] Thank you, Honorable Senator Judges.
[00:01:12] No, no, no.
[00:01:14] Honorable Senator, kindly finish your reply to the objection of Counsel for Respondent.
[00:01:19] Allow us to freely advocate our positions through the proper and respectful discourse.
[00:01:28] This is not prohibited under the rules.
[00:01:30] In fact, the court has declared that yesterday, the rules will not comply with the strict procedures of a judicial proceeding.
[00:01:39] Every article is a separate complaint, and it would be the proper guidance for the Senator Judges,
[00:01:46] especially for our Filipino-Pilipino that we watch, so that they will always make sure they present our evidence.
[00:01:53] The impeachment is a sui generis.
[00:01:58] Sui generis, because it's different, it's not judicial, administrative, civil, or criminal proceeding.
[00:02:04] Your Honor, may I respond.
[00:02:16] The presiding officer should rule.
[00:02:20] Although indeed we will interpret the rules liberally, and although indeed this is a sui generis proceeding,
[00:02:27] neither will we allow any dilatory moves and or tactics,
[00:02:31] and I will bind and hold you to your five minutes, Honorable Defensor.
[00:02:35] Absolutely, Your Honor.
[00:02:36] And we will clock it.
[00:02:37] We will afford the same opportunity to the Counsel for Respondents when their turn arrives.
[00:02:42] Thank you, Your Honor.
[00:02:43] May I proceed, Your Honor?
[00:02:44] You may proceed.
[00:02:45] Honorable Senator Judges,
[00:02:46] Noong ikadalawampunt dalawa ng Junyo, 2026, nagulat at nagdalamhati ang buong bansa sa pamamaril sa isang paaralan sa Tacloban City,
[00:02:57] na ikinasawi ng tatlong batang mag-aaral at ikinasugat ng marami pang iba.
[00:03:04] Ang mga salarin, mga minor di edad, sa kabila ng kanilang murang edad, agad na pumilos ang mga otoridad upang ipatubad ang mga umiiral na batas.
[00:03:17] Ang mensahe ay malinaw.
[00:03:20] Ang pagpigiging bata ay hindi nangangahulgang walang pananagutan.
[00:03:26] Ang pananagutan ay umiiral, pagamat iba ang paraan ng pagpapatupad nito sa ilalim ng batas.
[00:03:35] Kamakailan, isang pasahero ang inaresto sa airport at kinasuhan, matapos itong magbiro na may bomba sa kanyang bagahe.
[00:03:44] Dahil mahigpit na ipinapatupad ng mga otoridad ang patakarang Zero Tolerance Policy.
[00:03:52] Sa anumang pagbabanggit ng bomba o anumang pampasabong.
[00:03:58] Sa isang hiwalay na pangyayari noong Mayo, 2020,
[00:04:02] isang public school teacher ang inaresto, pinusasan at kinasuhan ng NBI sa Zambales,
[00:04:10] matapos magbiro na magbibigay ng pabuya sa sino mang papatay sa Presidente ng Republika.
[00:04:17] Ano ang prinsipyo dito?
[00:04:19] Ang pananagutan ay pinapairal sa lahat, bata man o matanda, nasa laylayan man o nasa katungkulan.
[00:04:30] The prosecution comes before you today to present evidence for Article 4,
[00:04:36] establishing that Vice President Sarah Zimmerman Duterte
[00:04:40] committed acts that betrayed the public trust,
[00:04:44] committed culpable violation of the Constitution,
[00:04:48] committed high crimes,
[00:04:49] in publicly admitting through a live broadcast that she contracted someone to assassinate the President,
[00:04:58] the First Lady,
[00:04:59] and the former House Speaker.
[00:05:02] We acknowledge the burden of this trial on the Senator Judges as well as the Filipino people,
[00:05:09] but it is a duty that we must discharge together,
[00:05:13] lest the public come to believe that threatening public officials
[00:05:17] and fostering a culture of impunity or conduct that may be tolerated or condoned,
[00:05:25] especially coming from the second highest official of the land.
[00:05:31] Ang mga kilos at salita ng Vice Presidente ay hindi dapat ituring na simple increment sa ilalim ng batas,
[00:05:39] kundi tuwirang paglabag sa saligang batas.
[00:05:44] Kaya ang paglilitis na ito ay mahalagang mekanismong itinakda upang tiyakin
[00:05:51] na ang kapangyarihan ay laging may kaakibat na pananagutan.
[00:05:56] Accountability must apply to all or none at all.
[00:06:01] At the heart of this impeachment proceeding lies a fundamental question para sa ating lahat.
[00:06:08] Can we continue to entrust one of the highest constitutional offices to a public official
[00:06:14] who on multiple occasions purposely and willfully and repeatedly
[00:06:21] resorted to threats of violence against the very institutions that she swore to uphold and protect?
[00:06:28] The evidence presented in this article are not just derived from testimonies and authenticated documents,
[00:06:35] but from the Vice President's own words, own conduct, her very own public admissions.
[00:06:43] Her words were neither accidental nor taken out of context.
[00:06:48] They were uttered publicly with the intention to be taken seriously.
[00:06:55] Huwag kang mag-alala, ma'am, sa security ko, kasi may kinausap na ako na tao.
[00:07:00] At sinabi ko sa kanya, na kapag pinatay ako, patayin mo si BBM, si Lisa Marcos, si Martin Romualdez.
[00:07:10] No joke. No joke.
[00:07:13] What makes these threats especially sinister is that they do not come from an ordinary citizen,
[00:07:19] but from the Vice President herself,
[00:07:22] an official who under the Constitution stands to succeed the President of the Republic.
[00:07:28] Such statements carry a gravity far from the exercise of one's freedom of expression.
[00:07:35] They strike at the very heart of government.
[00:07:38] This is especially significant given that she has publicly declared her intention
[00:07:43] to run for President in the next election.
[00:07:47] What values do we expect from those who occupy the highest office in the land?
[00:07:55] Telecadesa, palabra de honor, integrity, and loyalty to your oath of office.
[00:08:01] These are not outdated ideals.
[00:08:04] They are the foundations of honorable public office.
[00:08:07] The remarks of the gentleman are duly noted.
[00:08:16] However, Chair would like to inform and instruct the Senator judges
[00:08:19] that the statement and manifestation made by the honorable defensor
[00:08:23] should not in any way be taken as evidentiary
[00:08:26] because it was merely a manifestation cum introduction of the fourth article of impeachment.
[00:08:32] Any evidence to be presented proving the fourth article of impeachment
[00:08:35] should be done through a witness under oath,
[00:08:40] surely subscribed, and subjected to direct and cross-examination.
[00:08:45] Call your first witness.
[00:08:45] Your Honor, may I be allowed also to?
[00:08:48] Your Honor, we move to strike that opening statement.
[00:08:52] It's improper for trial.
[00:08:55] It is not evidentiary in nature.
[00:08:59] And it only provides conclusions of fact and law.
[00:09:04] Most of it is irrelevant.
[00:09:06] And fact of the matter is the prosecution should present evidence
[00:09:13] and not manifest in this improper manner.
[00:09:17] May I be recognized, Your Honor?
[00:09:19] No need.
[00:09:21] Motion is denied.
[00:09:22] Let it remain in the records and as instructed by the Chair
[00:09:25] for the Senator judges not to consider,
[00:09:28] deem whatever statements were given by the honorable defensor
[00:09:30] as evidentiary in any way, shape, size, or form.
[00:09:34] Again, counsel, call your first witness.
[00:09:36] Your Honor, may I request permission
[00:09:38] to recognize counsel for the panel of prosecutors,
[00:09:42] Attorney Virgil Ligutan,
[00:09:44] to conduct the examination of our first witness.
[00:09:47] He will be under the direct suspension and control
[00:09:50] and control of the panel of prosecutors.
[00:09:51] Your Honor, may I register my continuing objection
[00:09:55] to the opening statement by the prosecution?
[00:10:00] Well, I don't think he'll do it again,
[00:10:02] but nevertheless, so noted.
[00:10:03] Thank you, Your Honor.
[00:10:04] Your Honor may request
[00:10:05] that Attorney Virgil Ligutan be recognized
[00:10:07] to conduct the examination of our first witness.
[00:10:10] Counsel for Prosecutors,
[00:10:14] Attorney Virgil Ligutan,
[00:10:17] so that we can have the records clear.
[00:10:20] Did I pronounce your name correctly, sir?
[00:10:23] Your Honor,
[00:10:23] my full name is
[00:10:26] Attorney Amanda Virgil
[00:10:29] Discarting Ligutan, Your Honor,
[00:10:31] please.
[00:10:32] And you've entered your appearance yesterday,
[00:10:34] Pastor?
[00:10:34] Yes, Your Honor.
[00:10:35] Julie entered my appearance
[00:10:36] as one of the counsel for the prosecution.
[00:10:39] You may proceed, sir.
[00:10:40] Call your first witness.
[00:10:42] Thank you so much.
[00:10:44] Mga kababayan,
[00:10:45] we call to the witness stand
[00:10:47] the first witness for the prosecution
[00:10:52] in the person of NBI Senior Agents
[00:10:56] Jean-Marc Santa Ana Calilog.
[00:11:03] Kindly bringing the witness to the witness stand.
[00:11:05] Please remain standing.
[00:11:20] Clerk of court is instructed
[00:11:21] to kindly administer the oath to the witness.
[00:11:24] Please raise your right hand.
[00:11:26] You, John Mark Calilog.
[00:11:28] I, John Mark Calilog.
[00:11:29] Do swear?
[00:11:30] Who swear?
[00:11:31] That the evidence you shall give?
[00:11:32] The evidence that I'll give.
[00:11:34] In the case now pending?
[00:11:35] It's in the case now pending.
[00:11:37] Between the Philippines?
[00:11:38] In the Philippines.
[00:11:40] And Vice President Cyrus Zimmerman Duterte?
[00:11:42] And Vice President Cyrus Zimmerman Duterte?
[00:11:45] Shall be the truth?
[00:11:46] Shall be the truth?
[00:11:47] The whole truth?
[00:11:48] The whole truth.
[00:11:48] And nothing but the truth?
[00:11:50] And nothing but the truth.
[00:11:50] So help me God.
[00:11:51] So help me God.
[00:11:53] Your witness counsel.
[00:11:56] Thank you so much, Your Honors.
[00:12:09] Your Honors, Mga Kababayan.
[00:12:13] The testimony of the first witness for the prosecution,
[00:12:18] NBI Senior Agent John Mark Santa Ana Calilog,
[00:12:23] is offered to prove the following.
[00:12:27] Number one,
[00:12:29] si Agent John Mark Calilog ay isang,
[00:12:32] senior agent of the National Bureau of Investigation.
[00:12:37] Number two,
[00:12:38] he is well-trained and experienced
[00:12:42] in the field of digital forensic examination,
[00:12:47] having undergone extensive training in the field,
[00:12:51] making him competent in identifying, preserving,
[00:12:58] collecting, and authenticating digital evidence.
[00:13:03] Pangatlo,
[00:13:04] si Agent Calilog ay bahagi ng NBI Cybercrime Division Team
[00:13:12] na inatasang mag-imbestiga sa mga pahayag
[00:13:16] at pagbabanta ng Vice Presidente
[00:13:23] laban sa Pangulo ng Pilipinas,
[00:13:26] unang ginang at dating speaker ng House of Representatives
[00:13:30] sa isang online media briefing noong Nobyembre 23,
[00:13:36] taong 2024,
[00:13:38] pang-apat.
[00:13:39] Partikular na sinabi sa publiko
[00:13:42] ng Vice Presidente
[00:13:45] na may kinuntrata na siyang tao
[00:13:49] na papatay.
[00:13:55] Napapatay sa Pangulo,
[00:13:57] unang ginang at former speaker ng House of Representatives.
[00:14:03] At ito ay nakatatak na sa kasaysayan ng ating bansa
[00:14:07] bilang unang pagkakataon
[00:14:11] na ang isang Vice Presidente
[00:14:14] ay nakipagkontrata
[00:14:16] sa isang mamamatay tao
[00:14:20] upang patayin
[00:14:24] no less than
[00:14:26] the President
[00:14:29] of the Republic
[00:14:32] of the Philippines.
[00:14:36] Pangliba.
[00:14:37] Your Honor, may I object?
[00:14:39] Is this a speech or an offer?
[00:14:41] Your Honor, please,
[00:14:42] with all due respect to Council,
[00:14:44] it should not be a practice.
[00:14:47] May I register my continuing objection?
[00:14:50] There is no proper ground.
[00:14:51] This is offer of testimony.
[00:14:53] Please, please hold your horses.
[00:14:54] Number five,
[00:14:56] the public statements
[00:14:57] and threats of the Vice President
[00:14:59] were publicly live-streamed
[00:15:02] and captured
[00:15:03] on video.
[00:15:06] Number six,
[00:15:08] Agent Calilong
[00:15:09] is the designated agent on case
[00:15:11] for the investigation.
[00:15:13] Number seven,
[00:15:15] as agents on case,
[00:15:18] Agent Calilong
[00:15:19] personally conducted
[00:15:21] and participated
[00:15:24] in the cyber crime
[00:15:26] and open source investigation
[00:15:28] relating to the subject video
[00:15:31] and related
[00:15:32] digital recordings.
[00:15:34] pangwalo
[00:15:36] sa takbo
[00:15:40] ng open source investigation
[00:15:43] na pag-alaman
[00:15:45] ng NBI
[00:15:45] na ang vice-presidente
[00:15:48] ay nagpahayag din
[00:15:50] ng iba pang kahawig
[00:15:53] na pananakot
[00:15:55] sa buhay ng Pangulo.
[00:15:57] Kasama na ang sinabi niya
[00:15:59] sa publiko
[00:16:00] na minsan
[00:16:02] minsan naisip niyang
[00:16:05] pugutan
[00:16:08] pangulo
[00:16:09] pangulo
[00:16:11] ng ulo
[00:16:11] ang pangulo
[00:16:13] ng Republika
[00:16:14] ng Pilipinas.
[00:16:16] Number nine,
[00:16:16] in the course
[00:16:18] of the investigation,
[00:16:20] Agent Calilong
[00:16:21] duly identified,
[00:16:23] preserved,
[00:16:24] collected,
[00:16:25] and authenticated
[00:16:26] the subject video
[00:16:28] and other
[00:16:29] related
[00:16:30] digital recordings.
[00:16:32] At number ten,
[00:16:33] the last offer
[00:16:34] of testimony,
[00:16:34] your honors,
[00:16:36] Agent Calilong
[00:16:37] will testify
[00:16:37] on such other matters
[00:16:40] as may be relevant,
[00:16:42] material,
[00:16:44] incidental
[00:16:45] to the issues
[00:16:46] involved in this
[00:16:47] impeachment proceeding
[00:16:48] and will identify
[00:16:49] relevant
[00:16:51] and material,
[00:16:52] documentary,
[00:16:53] and object,
[00:16:54] pieces of evidence.
[00:16:55] That is the offer
[00:16:56] of testimony
[00:16:57] of our first witness,
[00:16:58] your honor, please.
[00:16:59] President Calilong
[00:17:00] will now hear
[00:17:01] the objection
[00:17:01] and her comments
[00:17:02] if any of the
[00:17:03] counsel for respondent
[00:17:04] to the offer
[00:17:05] made by counsel
[00:17:07] for the persecution.
[00:17:09] Your honor,
[00:17:09] may we move
[00:17:11] for the exclusion
[00:17:12] of Agent Calilong
[00:17:14] for being
[00:17:17] not previously
[00:17:19] attached to the
[00:17:20] Sebala and Cabrera
[00:17:21] complaints,
[00:17:22] as well as
[00:17:23] exclusion
[00:17:23] on the ground
[00:17:25] that he was
[00:17:28] not included
[00:17:29] in the articles
[00:17:29] of impeachment
[00:17:32] transmitted
[00:17:32] to the Senate
[00:17:33] impeachment court.
[00:17:34] Can I respond
[00:17:35] to that,
[00:17:36] your honor, please?
[00:17:37] Counsel for
[00:17:37] Prosecutor Meduso.
[00:17:39] Mga kababayan,
[00:17:41] in this stage
[00:17:42] of the proceedings,
[00:17:43] the prosecution
[00:17:43] is about
[00:17:44] to present
[00:17:44] a witness
[00:17:45] and the defense
[00:17:47] is invoking
[00:17:50] the fact
[00:17:50] that this witness
[00:17:52] is not listed
[00:17:53] as one of the witnesses
[00:17:54] in the Sabalia complaint.
[00:17:57] The Sabalia complaint
[00:17:58] already lived
[00:17:59] its natural life.
[00:18:01] Your honor,
[00:18:01] this is the impeachment
[00:18:03] proceeding
[00:18:04] of the articles
[00:18:05] of impeachment
[00:18:06] filed by the
[00:18:08] House of Representatives.
[00:18:10] Sabalia et al is done.
[00:18:12] That should not be
[00:18:13] a proper objection,
[00:18:15] your honor, please.
[00:18:16] As to the number two,
[00:18:16] I think the good counsel
[00:18:18] mentioned that
[00:18:19] it is not part,
[00:18:21] this witness
[00:18:21] is not part
[00:18:22] of the articles
[00:18:23] of impeachment.
[00:18:25] Your honor, please,
[00:18:26] I have been practicing
[00:18:28] for quite some time.
[00:18:29] I don't see that.
[00:18:31] Your honor,
[00:18:31] may I allow
[00:18:32] to reply also?
[00:18:33] Can I finish?
[00:18:35] It's not a ground
[00:18:36] and in fact,
[00:18:37] your honor, please,
[00:18:37] to settle the matter,
[00:18:40] this witness
[00:18:40] is listed
[00:18:42] in the pre-trial order.
[00:18:45] The issue is settled.
[00:18:47] The issue is passé.
[00:18:48] No ground for objection.
[00:18:50] Let me proceed,
[00:18:50] your honor.
[00:18:51] Of course not,
[00:18:52] your honor.
[00:18:53] There were no rulings.
[00:18:54] Counselor correspondent
[00:18:55] is recognized
[00:18:56] for a final rebuttal
[00:18:58] on this issue
[00:18:58] before the court
[00:18:59] before the chair
[00:19:00] will issue a ruling.
[00:19:01] Your honor,
[00:19:01] there were no rulings
[00:19:02] on the pre-trial order
[00:19:03] on exclusion of witnesses.
[00:19:05] We have a current petition
[00:19:08] with the Supreme Court
[00:19:10] questioning the very actions
[00:19:11] of the prosecution
[00:19:13] to allow the presentation
[00:19:15] of evidence
[00:19:16] that were not attached
[00:19:17] to the Sabalia or Cabrera
[00:19:18] in placement complaints
[00:19:19] would allow
[00:19:20] the House of Representatives
[00:19:22] and the prosecution
[00:19:23] to circumvent
[00:19:24] the very procedural abuse
[00:19:25] condemned in Stonehill
[00:19:27] versus Jocno
[00:19:27] and allow the violation
[00:19:29] of the respondent's
[00:19:30] constitutional rights
[00:19:31] as held in Duterte
[00:19:32] versus the House of Representatives.
[00:19:35] Your honor,
[00:19:36] the prosecution says
[00:19:38] the Sabalia complaints
[00:19:40] have lived there
[00:19:43] and they died
[00:19:44] their natural deaths.
[00:19:45] However,
[00:19:46] your honor,
[00:19:47] this precisely
[00:19:48] does not cure
[00:19:50] what the prosecution did.
[00:19:52] This does not cure
[00:19:54] the violation
[00:19:56] of the rights
[00:19:57] of my client.
[00:19:59] If I may,
[00:19:59] your honor,
[00:20:00] please.
[00:20:01] The chair will make
[00:20:02] its ruling.
[00:20:04] The motion to exclude
[00:20:06] by the counsel
[00:20:06] for respondent
[00:20:07] is hereby denied.
[00:20:08] Chair cites
[00:20:09] Enrille v. Sandigan Bayan
[00:20:11] which states
[00:20:11] that the prosecutors
[00:20:13] may add or rely
[00:20:14] on evidence
[00:20:15] during pre-trial
[00:20:16] even if the evidence
[00:20:17] is not stated
[00:20:18] in the complaint
[00:20:19] or articles
[00:20:19] because only a summary
[00:20:21] is required to be stated
[00:20:22] in the articles
[00:20:23] of impeachment
[00:20:24] in this case
[00:20:25] and or complaint
[00:20:26] and not a complete list
[00:20:27] of the prosecution's
[00:20:29] evidence
[00:20:30] and or witnesses.
[00:20:33] The court in general
[00:20:34] will not shackle
[00:20:35] the prosecution
[00:20:35] by limiting it
[00:20:36] to the evidence
[00:20:37] mentioned
[00:20:37] in the information
[00:20:39] and or the articles
[00:20:40] especially when it is mentioned
[00:20:41] in the pre-trial brief
[00:20:44] not only order
[00:20:45] but brief
[00:20:46] of the counsel
[00:20:47] for persecutors
[00:20:48] but in relation
[00:20:50] to this witness
[00:20:50] even if you will do cross
[00:20:51] you can register
[00:20:52] your continuing objection
[00:20:53] counsel for responding.
[00:20:55] We are registering it
[00:20:56] your honor, please.
[00:20:57] So noted
[00:20:57] counsel for the prosecution
[00:20:58] may proceed.
[00:20:59] Thank you so much
[00:21:00] your honor.
[00:21:01] John Mark Calilong.
[00:21:02] Your Honor may I register
[00:21:03] my objections
[00:21:04] to the purposes.
[00:21:07] Your Honor please
[00:21:08] I think the purposes
[00:21:09] must be specified
[00:21:10] what are your objections
[00:21:11] on what grounds?
[00:21:12] May I be allowed?
[00:21:12] You may comment
[00:21:13] on the offer
[00:21:13] of the testimony
[00:21:15] of this witness
[00:21:16] for the record.
[00:21:17] Your Honor
[00:21:17] for the purpose number three
[00:21:19] this is a conclusion
[00:21:21] of fact and law
[00:21:21] for the fourth purpose
[00:21:25] it is also a conclusion
[00:21:27] of fact and law
[00:21:27] and the eighth purpose
[00:21:29] it is a conclusion
[00:21:30] of fact and law.
[00:21:31] Mr. President
[00:21:32] Council for
[00:21:33] Respondent
[00:21:35] before we
[00:21:36] yes
[00:21:37] Senator Judge
[00:21:38] Cayetano
[00:21:39] Pia
[00:21:40] I would just like
[00:21:41] the defense
[00:21:42] when you say
[00:21:43] item number three
[00:21:45] can you repeat
[00:21:46] what it is
[00:21:46] because I'm trying
[00:21:47] to follow
[00:21:47] exactly what
[00:21:48] your objection is
[00:21:49] so either you say it
[00:21:51] or he repeats it
[00:21:52] so we can follow.
[00:21:53] I was about to do that
[00:21:53] actually
[00:21:54] thank you
[00:21:54] item number three
[00:21:57] in the offer
[00:21:58] of this witness
[00:21:59] is that the NBI
[00:22:01] agent being presented
[00:22:02] is part of its
[00:22:04] cyber crime unit
[00:22:05] that investigated
[00:22:06] this matter
[00:22:08] that's what you're
[00:22:11] referring to
[00:22:12] as a conclusion
[00:22:12] of law council
[00:22:13] sorry
[00:22:14] number four
[00:22:15] number four
[00:22:16] your honor
[00:22:16] yes
[00:22:17] not number three
[00:22:17] so number four
[00:22:19] and what else
[00:22:20] number eight
[00:22:20] your honor
[00:22:21] number eight
[00:22:25] on other threats
[00:22:26] other than the
[00:22:27] video mentioned
[00:22:28] in the press briefing
[00:22:29] yes
[00:22:29] yes your honor