FULL - House prosecution team addresses the media after day 3 of impeachment trial — GMA News

[0:00] Good morning to our friends from the media. Welcome to the press briefing of our House [0:05] Prosecution panel. We have here with us our distinguished guests. We have Deputy Speaker [0:16] Francisco Paulo Ortega V from the 1st District of the Union. Of course, our prosecutors, [0:27] Representative Isabel Maria Zamora of San Juan City, and Representative Rhodes Gutierrez of [0:33] One Rider Partidist. And of course, we also have the spokesperson of our House Prosecution team and [0:40] also a member of the Prosecution panel, none other than Attorney Benjamin J. Tolosa Jr. To start our [0:48] press briefing, let's hear the opening statement of Congressman Zamora. Hi, everyone. Good morning. [0:57] And siguro ang una ko pong sasabihin ay maraming salamat po sa lahat ng sumubaybay, lahat [1:06] po ng nanood at nakinig sa ating first week of the impeachment trial. Nakita niyo po ang [1:13] dalawang panig, ang mga abogado po representing the prosecution and representing the defense, [1:22] at nakita niyo po kung paano po tayo gumalaw sa isang impeachment court. Nakita niyo din po ang [1:32] ating unang witness at ang kanyang testimonya at nakita ninyo na hindi natinag o nabasag ang [1:42] testimonya ng ating witness na si John Mark Kalilong. Umpisa pa lang po ito, naiintindihan po namin na [1:52] narinig ninyo ang closing statements ng dalawang panig. Kahapon po binigay ng [1:58] depensa ang kanilang closing statement. Pero sasabihin ko po na hindi pa po tapos ang [2:05] pagpresenta ng mga witness patungkol sa Article 4 or yung Grave Threats article. [2:12] In the coming weeks, meron pa po tayong ibang witnesses. Ang susunod naman po ay na-announce na [2:23] at yun din po ay isa pang NBI official. Yun po si Attorney Lotok, which we will present on Monday. [2:33] So sana po subaybayan po ng ating public ang trial ng ating Vice President at madami pa po tayong [2:48] mapupulot na kaalaman dito at kailangan po natin mailatag ang lahat ng ebidensya patungkol po sa [2:57] apat na articles ng impeachment. Thank you very much po. Okay, so we'll accept your questions [3:04] now. Tina, you may do the honors. Good morning po. Attorney Zulaika Lopez went to the Senate this [3:12] morning. Impeachment Court, Clerk of Court Bantug said the visit concerned administrative matters. [3:21] Any reaction po? Frankly, this is the first time that you've heard it. So it will be difficult to [3:35] comment on that. No, we don't know. We're not privy to that meeting, what was discussed. But quite [3:42] frankly, it has no significance to us. So far as we're concerned, we've already asked the impeachment [3:49] court to issue a subpoena directing Attorney Zulaika Lopez to appear before the court as one of [3:57] our witnesses. And our purpose for presenting her as a witness, what we intend to do during her [4:07] presentation as witness would not be affected by that occurrence this morning. What about the others [4:19] on the panel? I think, yeah, we have to agree with Attorney Talosa without knowing exactly what the [4:32] meeting was about. We can't really comment on it. But we trust that the trial will be proceeding and with [4:38] the prosecution will be unaffected. Maybe get an update on your request to subpoena [4:46] Attorney Lopez. Lumabas na po ba? If I remember correctly, I think an updated request was made [4:59] because the timing changed a bit. We'll have to get back to that. But what is clear is I think during the [5:06] hearing last yesterday, you know, we informed the court that we intend to present as our next witnesses, [5:16] the Attorney Law Talk, the Regional NBI Director, and Officer Pellio from the Office of the Sergeant at [5:28] Arms of the House of Representatives. The third one, I'll have to confirm if it's either Attorney Zulaika [5:36] or NBI Director Matiba. Sir, any update naman po on the discussions of the House Prosecution [5:46] Panel on the voting threshold? Okay. For now, as you've stated in our [5:58] statements about it yesterday, that's not one of the priorities of the Prosecution Panel. Our singular [6:08] focus remains the same, which is to keep preparing, you know, for the presentation of our succeeding [6:15] witnesses. And that matter is still under deliberation. So, but for now, we're not focusing on that. [6:24] That's right, Attorney Tolosa said. The Prosecution is not concerned about the voting [6:33] threshold, because our business is presented to the evidence that we have in relation to the four [6:43] uh, uh, articles of impeachment. Of course, we will abide by the rulings of the impeachment court. [6:51] And hintayin na lang po namin ang next, uh, steps or ang mga susunod na mangyayari in relation to the [6:59] voting threshold. If ever, any person will question it as, uh, earlier mentioned by the presiding [7:10] officer. If, if everyone will recall, uh, he declared that the voting threshold is 16, which [7:17] is two-thirds of the total number. But, uh, he also mentioned, I believe, that anyone is free to [7:28] raise the matter before the Supreme Court. Yan lang po. Um, in addition to that, I guess what you can say [7:34] is, um, whether or not we're affected, uh, the rules are now set, and it's time for the evidence and [7:39] the records to move, no? It's time for the presentation for us to proceed. Thank you po. [7:46] All right, we're now recognizing Bernard Taguino. [7:50] Ah, sana hindi ito ma-objekan. Yung, yung, ah, Oplan Romanov, tingin nyo, ah, katang-isip [8:14] lang nung kabila yun? Itong Oplan Romanov, um, sa paglilitis na to, narinig lang ho natin to [8:24] dun sa isang, ah, naging statement, no? Nung defense counsel. So, maliwanag, wala [8:30] hong kahit na anong ebidensya na nalalapag dito sa paglilitis na to, na mapatunayan to in any way, [8:38] you know? So, ah, it just remains an allegation, no? And at the end of the day, it seems that by [8:45] raising this matter, no? It seems that they're making the point that, um, they're trying to justify the [8:52] threats by raising this, no? Pero ang katanungan ho dyan na dapat din pag-isipan ng ating [8:57] mga kababayan, tama ba na kung merong pakiramdam na, oh, ah, dahil dito sa mga ganitong [9:05] klaseng allegations, ay pwede nang pagbantaan ang buhay ng ibang tao, pwede nang pagbantaan [9:12] ang buhay ng presidente? So, yan ho yung mga katanungan na dapat, ah, harapin at sagutin dito [9:18] ho sa paglilitis na to. Mangilite, anong tingin ba dyan? [9:29] Ah, well, siguro unang-una bago, bago sa lahat, no? Nakita po natin na ang daming spin [9:37] ng kwento, iba-iba yung anggulong kinukuha. Pero siguro magandang i-highlight po yung mga [9:45] prosecutors natin na lumabas po yung preparasyon nila. Ah, hindi naman po nasagot yung [9:53] sa threat, eh, exactly, kung ano-ano nga po yung ginamit na anggulo para sa akin ng [10:00] depensa. And I want to give flowers, ah, where it's due. Ah, hindi porke, ah, congressman [10:07] ako, hindi porke, ah, nandun ako. Ah, yung preparation po, hindi po ano eh, hindi [10:14] nabasag yung, hindi nabasag yung mga nilatag ng prosecution. And I think also, ah, [10:24] ibigyan ko ng grado itong mga prosecutors natin na may mga iba na nandito. Talagang [10:31] A-positive sila. Para blood pa rin. [10:39] Mayroon talagang, ah, talagang inaano nila yan. Eh, nire-raise nila yung... [10:44] Lagi nilang sinasabi eh. Actually, sa kampo nila, hindi lang, hindi lang dun sa [10:49] Zoom na yun. Marami beses, hindi ko lang talaga maalala kung saan ko ulit narinig [10:53] yun. Pero parang marami silang pa, yung mga pananakot, mga threats na ganun. Eh, kaya nga [11:00] sabi ko, hindi, hindi biro yung, yung ganyan. It's a grave, it's a grave crime. Kahit [11:10] anong threat pa yan, kahit, wala. Yung conditional threat naman kasi, palusot lang yan [11:14] ng mga nage-grave threats eh. So, palusot lang yun. So, talagang yung mga ganyang [11:20] bagay, hindi, hindi pwedeng mali, hindi maliit na bagay, hindi pinag, ah, hindi [11:27] pinag, yung hindi mo nalang papansin eh, hindi mo hahayaan. That's a threat to the [11:32] highest official of the land. And, first time po na nangyari na yung pangalawang [11:37] pinakamataas na official eh, titrinetreten yung Pangulo. First time po na [11:43] trineten ng Vice President ang buhay ng pamilya ng Pangulo at ng Pangulo at [11:48] ng dating Speaker. So, sabi ko nga, hindi ko talaga ma, hindi ko mawari, hindi ko [11:55] ma, maisip. Sabi nga sa, sa amin, sa Ilocano, maululaw ak, maululaw yung [12:02] naihilo na ako. Hindi ko alam kung paano nila hahanapan ng, ng paliwanag o [12:11] explanation to eh, talagang sotpalu eh. So, yun lang po on my part. Salamat. [12:23] Kung Bell? Yung sa Romanov. Romanov. Okay, alam nyo, litong-lito nga kami noon [12:30] dyan sa Romanov na yan eh. In fact, during the Committee on Justice [12:35] hearing, I had to explain what the, what the Romanovs are and, kasi madaming [12:41] hindi nakakaintindi nyan, ano ba yung Romanov na yan. Sabi ko yan yung, uh, [12:45] imperial family of, uh, Russia that was, uh, overthrown and massacred by Lenin if I'm not [12:56] mistaken. But anyway, um, without going to the merits, in fact, hindi nga dapat kasama [13:06] to, siguro, tingnan na lang natin ang pagkakakilan natin sa ating, uh, president sa kanilang [13:16] pamilya. I don't think that anyone would think that these words relating to, um, [13:27] assassination, massacre, all of that would come from the first family. [13:32] So, katang-isip nila yan? [13:33] Yun lang po ang naisip namin. [13:36] So, katang-isip nila yan? [13:37] Katang-isip po ng kabilang part nito. [13:40] Yeah. Okay. [13:41] Dahil, uh, wala naman pong napatunayan na may ganong, uh, plot sa kanila. [13:53] One, one more, uh, sana lang. Yung isang witness nyo next week, yung Belinda, Belinda [14:02] Belio, something? Sama? Siya yung, ano yung ilalatag niya sa impeachment court next week? [14:12] Yung naging dahilan kung bakit ilipat, ilipat si Zulaika sa Women's Correctional, dahil [14:19] nandito si Sarah with a lot of bodyguards at nagugulo, kaya ililipat. Yun ang sasabihin [14:26] niya doon? [14:27] Hintayin na lang po natin kasi hindi po namin pwede sabihin ngayon kung ano yung, uh, [14:32] laman ng kanyang testimonyo next week. [14:35] Pero doon? [14:35] Basta siya po yung, uh, uh, in charge po sa LSB, yung isang tanggapan po dito sa [14:45] Congress. So, hintayin na lang nga po natin ang kanyang testimonyo. [14:50] Kasi ang, ang naaalala kasi namin, kasi tagal na rin kaming nag-cover dito. Nung time [14:56] na yun, ang daming bodyguard ni Sarah dito. More than hundreds and then nagugulo. [15:00] So, nagpa siya si Chairman Chua, na ilipat na lang para mawala si Duterte dito. [15:11] Si Zulaika. Aalis si ang grupo ni Sarah dito. [15:17] Tulad doon ang sinabi ni Kongbel, no, um, uh, let's just wait for it when we present her [15:23] as witness. Ang pwede ho lang namin sabihin at this point kung ano na ho yung linatag namin [15:27] sa aming pre-trial brief with respect to this witness, which is she will testify about [15:32] the circumstances, uh, surrounding the, uh, Teran. So, ano ho yung nangyari, no, nung [15:38] home time, no, November 23, na ginawa ho itong pananakot sa buhay ng Presidente. [15:46] No further objection, your honors. [15:48] Okay, thank you, Bernard. Rosalie. [15:53] Good morning po. Uh, Rosalie Cospo of UNTV. Um, how do you respond po dun po sa mga [15:58] critics, observers na nagsasabi na yung first witness na sinalang po ng [16:02] prosecution ay walang pasabog or wow factor? [16:07] Well, uh, we don't know where that's coming from but, uh, everyone's entitled to their [16:14] own opinion. Ang sami naman, no, um, importante, maliwanag na, na ipakita dito, no, uh, yung [16:22] hung, uh, video footage, um, kung saan ho, uh, binigkas yung pananakot sa buhay ng [16:28] Presidente, sa First Lady, and then Speaker of the House, at ang pag-amin na meron [16:34] ng, um, um, agreement, no, uh, with this assassin, no, to carry this out. At ang, uh, I think, um, [16:42] um, even, no, beyond the direct examination, no, mahalaga din ho, nabalikan natin dito, [16:49] nung tinanong ho yung witness, ang naging sagot ho niya dun sa tanong, uh, kung ano ho yung, uh, [16:57] characterization niya dun sa threat ho na yun, ang sinabi ho niya na napakalinaw, the threat was absolute, [17:03] ano. So, at, um, and as a last point about that, um, dun sa cross-examination, no, mukhang may mga [17:14] katanungan sila na mukhang ang aim ay questionin kung authentic ba yung document, ano, pero alalahan din [17:19] natin sa same cross-examination na yan, ginamit nila yung very same video footage, no, um, kung saan [17:28] meron silang mga pinalabas na some portions of it, which means, no, malinaw wala hong question dun sa [17:35] authenticity nung video na to. Saka, may wow factor naman, diba? Sabi nga ni Atty. Ligutan. Wow. [17:46] So, ibig sabihin, pati siya napapawaw. Pero, aside from that, joking, joking lang naman kayo naman. [17:53] Um, kita naman natin na maayos sumagot yung, yung witness. Napaka-klaro. To the point na, [18:03] iba na nga, parang nag-iba na nga yung strategy ng defense nung they were crossing him. Parang very, [18:09] parang iba yung atake nila towards him. Parang, kasi medyo character na po yung [18:18] tinitignan eh. So, hindi na po yung information na binibigay niya. So, siguro ano lang siya, [18:25] like, medyo parang tahimik lang yung pagkatao niya. Parang ako, shy, diba? [18:38] Ang mahalaga pong intindihin in relation to John Mark Kalilong is that he was presented [18:46] to authenticate the video, the video recording which he made. Bakit po? [18:53] Dahil ipre-presenta po natin itong video na ito at bago mag-presenta ng video [18:58] ang isang abogado, ang isang partido, kailangan po natin ma-authenticate yan [19:03] o maipalabas na tama ang pag-record ng video na ito ay, yung chain of custody nito ay tama [19:15] at sumunod sa tamang proseso, malinis ang pagkagawa ng lahat ng steps. [19:21] And, naipakita naman po ni Kalilong iyon. [19:25] Ang masasabi ko po about Kalilong is that he was consistent in his statements, [19:35] he was credible, and he was competent. [19:39] Pinakitaan po siya ng some documents which weren't presented before, [19:50] presented which weren't identified or authenticated, [19:57] but anyway, he was able to answer all of those. [20:01] And, they were testing his credibility. [20:06] At, naipakita naman po hanggang sa dulo, [20:09] nung tinatanong din po si Kalilong ng ating Senator Judges [20:13] na competent nga siya, alam niya ang kanyang sinasabi, [20:20] at meron siyang qualifications para sagutin ang mga tanong na binabato sa kanya, [20:28] at meron siyang qualifications para gawin yung pag-authenticate nung video, [20:35] paggawa ng affidavit of authentication na ginawa po niya. [20:40] So, we are very happy with the testimony of John Mark Kalilong. [20:47] Alright po. [20:48] Yesterday po sa day 3 ng impeachment trial, [20:51] si Senator Judge Bama Aquino po questioned or asked the prosecution [20:55] kung meron po silang ipe-present na other witnesses that will pertain to the alleged hitman. [21:01] And then, Attorney Ligutan said yes. [21:04] Are we expecting that witnesses to be presented next week? [21:10] Sir, can you repeat that again? [21:13] Si Senator Judge Bama Aquino po, tinanong niya po si Attorney Ligutan [21:19] kung may ipe-present po ba ang prosecution na other witnesses that will pertain to the alleged hitman. [21:26] And Attorney Ligutan said yes. [21:28] Are we expecting po na ma-i-present yung witnesses na yun next week? [21:36] Without going to the details of what will be the testimony of the subsequent witnesses, [21:42] but it's been stated in our pre-trial brief that we'll be presenting witnesses [21:47] who will talk about the investigation conducted by the NBI [21:52] in relation to the threats issued by the Vice President against the President, [21:58] the First Lady, and the former Speaker of the House. [22:00] I asked the question po kasi because during the hearing of the House Justice Committee in April, [22:08] NBI said na may lead na sila dun sa alleged hitman. [22:13] So may development na po nito? [22:17] So again, let's wait for the testimony of Director Matibag, [22:21] the other regional director of the NBI. [22:26] Yun po ba ang significance ng pagharap po ni Attorney Jeremy Lotok sa Monday? [22:32] Again, they will be testifying about the investigation conducted by the NBI in relation to this. [22:37] But I hope you understand. [22:38] I understand the frustration, but because of the subjudicia rule, [22:42] we cannot talk about matters which were not yet discussed in the impeachment proceedings. [22:47] That's why we're begging for your patience at this time. [22:52] So pag nailatag na ho yan, naupo na yung mga witnesses namin, [22:55] pwede ho natin pag-usapan ulit. [22:57] Last na lang. [22:58] So may pasabog next week? [23:03] Meron ho kaming matibay na ebidensya na ilalabas sa susunod na linggo. [23:10] May ikli naman? Pwede po bang mas mahaba? [23:22] Hindi, yun yung tanong mo eh. [23:23] May pasabog ba next week? [23:25] Meron. [23:25] May lasing pasabog po. [23:27] Five star. [23:31] Hindi bloody yun, sir. [23:34] Okay. [23:35] Okay, Marian. [23:37] Sir, regarding po sa request ng prosecution panel to subpoena yung tax records po ni VP Sarah [23:42] and yung asawa niya si Attorney Manz Carpio, [23:43] itinakda po yung oral arguments ng impeachment court on July 15. [23:48] Kamusta po yung preparations natin? [23:50] Sino po yung tatayo para po doon sa 10 minutes and your rebuttal? [23:57] Oh, we're still discussing that. [24:00] Pinag-aaralan pa po ng team in charge [24:04] and nung buong prosecution team. [24:07] Yeah, but we're very much ready to argue our position in support of that request [24:16] because this is a matter that we've long anticipated. [24:20] Naalam naman namin, issue ito that will arise [24:22] because consistent with the stance that they've been taking from the start, [24:27] we knew that they'll try to block every evidence that we'll try to present. [24:31] So we've anticipated this and we're ready with our legal arguments. [24:34] But aside from that, sir, may iba ba tayong ginagawa or pinag-uusapan na pwedeng gawin on the table? [24:41] Like, for example, si King President Bumbong Marcos' authorization po para buksan nga po itong box. [24:47] Again, I'm not sure if it was mentioned a while ago, [24:51] but these are matters that are not being discussed or prioritized by the prosecution team at this time. [25:00] But what we can say is it was pointed out in the impeachment proceedings, [25:07] if I'm not mistaken, if it was even mentioned as part of the ruling, [25:12] that this is an option, one of the options that is under the National Internal Revenue Code. [25:18] But the BIR commissioner may request the president to give his consent [25:25] because, as haply pointed out, that is what happened in the impeachment proceedings [25:32] concerning the late CJ Corona. [25:34] But again, we would not want to preempt whatever actions the BIR commissioner may take on it. [25:41] Ang pinag-uusapan pa lang ho dito is a request for the impeachment court [25:47] to issue a subpoena to the BIR, directing it to produce these documents to the court. [25:54] Now, huwag natin pong pangunahan kung ano yung magiging proseso pagkatapos natin. [26:01] Thank you, sir. [26:02] DS Pao, you mentioned kanina, nagbigay po kayo ng grado doon sa prosecutors natin. [26:08] A positive. [26:09] Yes, A positive. [26:10] A plus. [26:11] A plus. [26:11] A plus. [26:12] Para po, bloody pa rin. [26:14] Kung matatanong po kayo, ano naman po yung maaari nyo ibigay na grado para po sa defense? [26:19] Lalo na po, no? [26:20] Doon sa tatlong araw po, nakita nyo parang nagkasukatan na yung defense and prosecution. [26:26] Nakita nyo ba na napatunay nilang inusente si VP Sara dito sa pagbibigay ng grave threats? [26:32] Siguro masyado pang maaga. [26:33] Pero baka be positive na lang. [26:36] Para be as in, blood. [26:40] Pero be positive pa din. [26:42] Kasi productive naman yung weeks. [26:44] Ay yung tatlong araw pareho ng prosecutors saka defense. [26:48] Saka it's a little too early in the game. [26:51] So, be positive. [26:54] B meaning blood. [26:56] Thank you, sir. [27:05] Alright, Mariana. [27:06] Let's hear from Eden. [27:24] Kahapon po ay inamin ng witness na on his personal opinion, it's absolute yung pong, I don't know, yung threat. [27:35] Pero based on the affidavit, it's conditional. [27:40] Ano po yung pwedeng maging epekto nito dun sa case? [27:45] Ah, alam nyo ho, siguro, hindi nagmamatter kung conditional or absolute. [27:54] In any case, wala naman po sa criminal law na conditional threat na tinatawag. [28:00] Basta threat, basta nagawa po ang isang threat, yun na po yun. [28:04] Threat na po yun. [28:05] So, kung nagtataka ang mga iba, ano ba itong conditional threat? [28:13] Kasi may condition daw na gagawin ito kapag nangyari mo ng isang bagay. [28:20] Eh, nasabi na din po yung threat, di ba? [28:22] So, there is no such thing as a conditional threat. [28:27] Si attorney. [28:29] Again, in the end, yung pinaka-maliwanag ho siguro dito nung tinanong siyang diretsuhan kung ano ho ang personal na paniniwala niya dyan, sinabi niya the threat is absolute. [28:41] So, I think yan ho yung pinaka-relevant na naging sagot tungkol sa bagay ho na yan. [28:46] So, wala pong epekto doon sa case yung conditional threat na nakabatay po sa kanyang affidavit? [28:52] Well, consistent ho yung position namin diyan kahit doon sa articles of impeachment, that does not diminish the gravity of the acts doon. [29:03] It does not make it in any way right. [29:06] Hindi ho yan pinapababa kung gaano kamali. [29:10] Again, let's put it in context. [29:12] Tulad ho nung na-mention ni Kong Pao kanina. [29:17] Tandaan ho natin yung na-emphasize during the opening statement of Kong Jinki. [29:21] Wala pa ho sa buong kasaysayan ng Pilipinas na merong isang vice-presidente na inamin na meron siyang kaugnayan sa isang mamatay tao at nagkaroon siya ng kasunduan sa mamatay tao na ito na patay ng presidente, kanyang asawa at ang Speaker of the House. [29:43] So, kahit ho anong sabihin natin na conditional yan, hindi ho papababa kung gaano kamali ito. [29:51] Ang sabi po ay forewarned yun to protect din the vice-president against po dun sa sinasabing threat din sa buhay niya dun sa binabangit na Oplan Romanov. [30:04] Dahil yung pamilya din po niya ay may banta bago pa niya sabihin yung banta naman na yun. [30:11] At ang sabi po ng NBI witness yesterday ay they tried to investigate. So, hindi talaga nila pinagtuunan ng pansin yung investigahan, yung reklamo naman po ng VP Sarah. [30:25] Your take on that? [30:28] Let's be accurate. Hindi ho sinabi ng witness na hindi nila yung pinagtuunan ng pansin. [30:34] Again, let's be accurate. Ang sinagot niya, ininyayahan ho nila ang vice-presidente na pumunta sa kanila para makausap nila siya tungkol sa bagay na ito para maimbestigan nila ng mabuti. [30:46] Ang naging problema ho, hindi ho tumugon dun sa paanyaya na puntahan sila para maliwanag lang ho kung ano ho yung sinabi ng witness. [30:54] At the end of the day, ang tanong ho dyan, justification ho ba yun kung merong ganong naririnig na kung anumang gustong itawag dyan, [31:06] na again, wala ho tayong nakikita kahit nanong ebidensya, even kahit sa paglilitis na ito na meron totoong nangyari gan. [31:13] Justification po ba yun para sa isang public official na manakot ng buhay ng kahit sinong tao, lalong-lalong-lalo na, [31:22] yung buhay ng presidente, napapalitan niya siya mismo kapag nga nangyari ito at pinatay siya. [31:29] Doon po sa sub-judicial rule kanina, nabanggit ninyo, yung mga ginagawang press conference, hindi lang po ng PROSECA, even the defense and other, [31:39] hindi po ba yun paglabag sa sub-judicial rule? [31:44] Ang sub-judicial rule, nakalagay dyan sa rules, [31:48] members of the prosecution team and their parties and their council are not allowed to give comments or disclosures pertaining to matters that go to the merits of the case. [31:59] Pero meron hong maliwanag na exemption yan under the jurisprudence, which is the true and fair reporting doctrine. [32:07] Ibig sabihin nun ito, pwedeng malaya ho nun ay paliwanag sa publiko kung ano ang mga bagay-bagay na nangyari throughout the impeachment proceedings. [32:19] Kasama ho yan kung ano ho ang mga linalaman ng mga submissions ng bawat parties, mga sinabi ng mga witnesses. [32:26] Kaya kung alalahan ninyo, ang mga sagot namin, lagi ho kaming bumabalik sa kung anong mga sinabi ng mga testigo, [32:32] kung ano ho ang sinabi ng magkabilang partido sa kanilang mga opening statements, [32:38] anong naging tagod-tugon nila sa mga sagot, sa mga pagtatanong ng other party, presiding officer or senators. [32:46] So yan ho ay pinapayagan ho yan ang rules. [32:50] Si DS Ortega po, baka meron kayong nalilang. [32:54] Very technical kasi yung tanong mo, alam mo namang semi-technical lang ako. [32:59] Hindi pero dagdagang ko nalang siguro atidyan. [33:04] Kahit sino po masalubong natin, maglakad tayo 1 km. [33:10] Punta tayo palengke, punta tayo sa eskwelahan, sa playground, sa opisina. [33:15] Pag tinanong mo yung tao, bata, matanda, may ngipin o wala, [33:19] sino nag-threaten sa buhay ng Pangulo? [33:24] Isa naman lahat ang sagot nila eh. [33:27] Hindi nila sasabihin na ang nag-conditional threat sa Pangulo ay si ganito. [33:36] So sino nagbanta sa buhay ng Pangulo? [33:38] Medyo napakasimple nga po eh. [33:41] So yun lang po. Thank you. [33:42] Alright. [33:48] Hello po. Good morning. I'm Laz po from Newswatch Plus. [33:52] To the prosecutors po muna, [33:54] since we're presenting or we're expecting na si Attorney Zuleika Lopez, [34:00] who is a close ally of the Vice President, will be presented. [34:04] Yes, close staff of the Vice President will be presented next week. [34:07] Do we expect a more persistent objection, heated discussions? [34:12] Kasi this week po talagang naging mainit na, [34:15] especially for the public na hindi naman talaga nakakapanood ng isang court hearing. [34:20] So do we expect a heated discussion next week, more heated discussion next week? [34:25] And without revealing the strategy, [34:27] how is the prosecution preparing for that? [34:30] Of course, we're expecting more objections next week. [34:40] And well, we want you to know that our prosecutors, [34:46] even our private prosecutors, [34:48] are all very capable to handle the direct examination of Attorney Lopez, [34:56] should that take place next week. [34:59] So, mangyayari po talaga na mag-o-object yung kabila, [35:03] dahil siyempre ayaw nilang tumuloy ang testimonya [35:08] ng kahit sinong witness po ng prosecution. [35:10] Kamrot, you may have your take on that? [35:18] I just personally believe that it would not depend on the character of the witness, [35:23] whether it would have been a hostile witness or not. [35:25] We have top-notch lawyers on the prosecution, [35:28] we also have top-notch lawyers on the defense, [35:30] and we can expect the same intensity of objections all throughout. [35:33] Just one more question naman po to DS Ortega. [35:38] Have you spoken to the, at least, leadership, [35:41] to Speaker Bo GD, [35:43] to Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, [35:45] about what happened this week? [35:47] Ano po yung kanyang assessment sa prosecution team? [35:51] Hindi pa kami nag-uusap. [35:53] I think they're on their way back from... [36:02] May mga personal silang mga lakad. [36:06] Pero siyempre, I'm sure they're watching and observing [36:10] kung ano po yung mga nangyayari. [36:12] At alam ko naman po, nakasuporta naman po sila. [36:15] Siyempre, mga kasama po nilang congressmen and women yung nandito. [36:20] So, hindi ko pa po sila nakakausap [36:25] nitong mga nakaraang ilang dalawang linggo. [36:31] Hindi pa kami nagkikita. [36:32] Pero, pwede ko silang kamustahin mamaya. [36:35] Siguro ba? [36:36] Mag-chat-chat ako or something. [36:39] But, with regards to your first question, [36:45] Siyempre, parang with the social media age, [36:49] nakikita po natin yung... [36:51] Parang, it's being lived out yung courtroom drama. [36:56] So, kung medyo may intensity nga yung first few days, [37:03] again, expect a more passionate na courtroom drama. [37:10] Parang, normal yun eh. [37:11] Kung baga, nami-mention nga nung mga [37:14] from the defense and the prosecutors [37:16] na lahat po na nangyayari ngayon is [37:18] normal po na nangyayari sa mga hearings. [37:22] Pero, syempre, may political exercise to eh. [37:26] So, kaya, after the hearings, [37:28] talagang pulutan. [37:31] Saka, maingay po yung Facebook verse, [37:34] Twitter verse, YouTube verse, [37:36] yung mainstream na news natin. [37:38] That adds spice to the impeachment proceedings. [37:44] Which is, alam ko, yun yung [37:45] inaabangan ng taong bayan. [37:48] So, stay tuned. [37:50] Sorry, last na po pala. [37:53] Regarding the, ano naman po, [37:55] yung sa private prosecutors, [37:56] kasi I remember akong Lila said [37:58] before, two weeks ago, [38:00] I think na pwede pang madagdagan [38:02] yung mga private prosecutors. [38:04] At this point of the trial po ba, [38:06] may mga madadagdag pa sa private prosecution panel? [38:09] I have not, I have not received any update about that. [38:15] But, tulad ho, nang like any other case, [38:18] pwede naman ho pumasok ang new council [38:21] anytime, no, during the proceedings. [38:24] Hindi naman kailangan at the start, [38:25] nandiyan ho yan, even in the middle. [38:28] Allowed naman ho yan. [38:29] But, so, let's see. [38:31] Thank you po. [38:37] Alright, Vivian? [38:39] Good morning po. [38:40] May we get an update dito sa move or plan [38:45] to invite or get the vice president [38:48] summoned to the trial? [38:53] It's under consideration, no? [38:55] And once we file the appropriate motion for that, [38:59] then we can discuss it with you at length. [39:02] Kasi ang sabi po ng mga, [39:04] ng abogado po niya, [39:06] merong mga fundamental rights [39:09] under the constitution. [39:12] Paano po ba yun? [39:13] Pwede po ba siyang i-represent ng council din? [39:15] Pagka pinatawag siya as witness, gano'n? [39:19] Or different rules po ba yun? [39:21] What do you mean, represent by council? [39:23] Kasi di po ba, [39:25] for the impeachment trial, [39:26] as a defendant, [39:27] pwede siyang i-represent ng council. [39:29] Pero pag pinatawag po siya as witness, [39:31] iba po ba yung rules for that? [39:33] Represent meaning appear in court? [39:36] Yes, appear in court. [39:37] Kung sasabi na ho siya, [39:39] kailangan, personal ho yun. [39:41] Hindi naman po pwedeng yung council niya [39:43] umupo sa witness stand. [39:44] But, again, let's see. [39:48] This is something that, [39:51] siguro, I think, [39:52] mga question diyan, [39:53] if it can be done, [39:55] let's remember, [39:56] this is not a criminal case. [39:58] So, yung [39:58] right against self-incrimination, [40:01] na applicable sa criminal case, [40:03] kung saan hindi mo pwedeng patawag [40:04] ang accused, [40:05] strictly speaking, [40:06] that's not here. [40:07] Hindi siya accused dito, [40:08] she's a respondent. [40:09] O wala din hong nakalagay [40:11] sa saligang batas [40:12] o sa rules of impeachment, [40:14] nabawal yan. [40:14] But, [40:15] let's see. [40:17] Once it has been filed, [40:18] how the impeachment court [40:19] will handle that matter. [40:21] May timeline po ba kayo? [40:23] For example, [40:24] next week, [40:25] the week after night? [40:27] When it becomes more concrete to let, [40:30] you know. [40:30] And then, [40:32] yung, [40:32] ano po, [40:34] sinabi na, [40:35] option, [40:36] yung pag, [40:38] seeking [40:40] President Marcos Jr.'s [40:41] authorization [40:42] to unveil the tax documents [40:43] of the Vice President [40:44] and her spouse, [40:46] when can the prosecution [40:47] exercise this option? [40:50] I think, [40:51] the better question is, [40:52] when will the [40:53] BIR Commissioner [40:55] do that? [40:56] And, I mean, [40:58] aside state [40:58] na wala ko, [40:59] hindi namin [41:00] pangungunahan [41:01] kung ano hong [41:01] magiging hakbang [41:02] na gagawin [41:03] ng BIR Commissioner [41:04] dyan. [41:05] What we're just [41:05] saying is, [41:07] tama, [41:08] ano, [41:08] dun sa question na yun, [41:10] yan ho, [41:10] as pointed out, [41:11] during dun sa [41:12] impeachment proceedings, [41:14] na, [41:15] isa yan, [41:16] na options [41:16] under the NIRC. [41:18] But, [41:18] so, [41:19] tignan ho natin, [41:20] but sa ngayon, [41:21] sa pagkakataong ito, [41:22] tulad doon ang sinabi namin, [41:23] ang hinihiling pa lang [41:24] ho namin dito [41:25] is for the issuance [41:26] of Sabtina, [41:27] directing the BIR Commissioner [41:28] to produce those documents [41:30] to the impeachment court. [41:31] Okay. [41:31] And then, [41:32] sir, [41:32] you mentioned yung dun sa [41:34] pag-bring [41:35] nung voting threshold [41:37] to the [41:38] Supreme Court. [41:39] It's not a priority, [41:41] singular focus, [41:42] but, [41:43] napag-uusapan po ba [41:44] among the prosecution, [41:46] yung possibility po na yun? [41:47] Ang pinag-uusapan namin [41:50] ay tulad ho nung sinasabi namin [41:52] from the start. [41:53] Ang focus ho namin dito, [41:55] sisiguraduhin namin [41:56] na we'll establish [41:58] an airtight case [41:59] backed by overwhelming evidence [42:02] para kung anuman ho [42:03] ang maging interpretation [42:05] sa two-thirds na yan, [42:07] you want to ensure [42:08] that we'll be able [42:09] to secure it. [42:10] Yan ho ang focus namin, [42:11] yan ang intention namin [42:13] from the start, [42:14] and it remains to be [42:15] the same until now. [42:16] So, [42:16] hindi po na pag-uusapan? [42:19] Right now, [42:20] hindi ho yan ang mga [42:21] sa deliberations [42:24] na pinaprioritize namin. [42:26] Like you stated, [42:27] we're focusing on [42:28] the next witnesses [42:29] that we'll be presenting, [42:30] the arguments that will happen [42:33] with respect to the [42:34] request for subpina. [42:36] So, [42:37] yan ho yung priority natin [42:38] at this time. [42:38] Thank you po. [42:41] Alright. [42:42] Gab? [42:49] Sir, [42:50] ma'am, [42:50] reaction lang [42:51] kasi na ambush interview [42:53] si [42:54] Atty. [42:55] Zulaika sa Senate [42:56] at ang sabi niya [42:57] pag maghanda rao [42:58] sa Typhoon Inday. [43:02] Yun yung po yung sabi niya, [43:04] parang ano, [43:04] prepare for Typhoon Inday. [43:08] Oh, [43:08] maghanda rin sila [43:09] kasi usually pagbagyo [43:10] wala sila. [43:12] Kaya baka maghanda rin po sila. [43:15] Nakahanda naman po kami lahat. [43:21] Anyone po from the prosecution pa? [43:31] Totoo naman pong [43:32] may bagyong Inday [43:34] so maghanda po tayo [43:35] para sa bagyo. [43:36] Kasi po para pumunta [43:47] si Atty. [43:47] Zulaika Lopez sa Senate [43:48] and yun po yung sasabihin niya [43:50] na prepare for Typhoon Inday, [43:52] baka po lang, [43:54] sakali lang, [43:56] pumunta po si VP Sarah next week [43:57] sa Senate Impeachment Court [43:59] and I think [44:00] yun naman din po yung gusto [44:02] I think ni Attorney Lorna Capunan [44:03] even last [44:04] Tuesday yata [44:06] sinabi niya yun. [44:07] Are we prepared na? [44:09] Nung na-announce po kasi yung [44:11] pangalan ng bagyo, [44:13] yung mga [44:14] yung mga [44:15] kaibigan po nila, [44:18] mga BFF nila, [44:19] nagpost na po lahat [44:20] na [44:21] Presidente, [44:23] maganda na po kayo [44:24] parating na yung [44:24] na parating na yung [44:24] Typhoon [44:25] Inday. [44:28] So last week pa yun, [44:29] marami nang nagpost din. [44:31] So siguro, [44:32] yun lang po yung [44:33] masasabi ni [44:35] Atty. [44:36] Zulaika at the moment. [44:37] So, [44:39] at least siya, [44:40] masanay na siya. [44:42] So, [44:43] mag-ready lang tayo. [44:44] Para sa bagyo ha, [44:45] hindi dun sa [44:46] impeachment [44:48] kasi [44:49] nakahanda naman po [44:50] yung prosecutors. [44:52] Sir, [44:53] Matagal na nakahanda. [44:55] Sir, [44:56] may similarities ba? [44:57] Parehong hindi maglalad po. [45:00] Pataywan eh, [45:01] no? [45:01] Parang lumihis. [45:02] Parang lumilihis yung bagyo. [45:04] Magandang bagay yun [45:05] kasi [45:05] at least, [45:06] di ba, [45:07] hindi may hihirapan yung mga [45:08] yung mga lugar po na [45:11] madalas tamaan ng bagyo. [45:13] Mga kapagtrabaho po yung [45:15] mga tao. [45:17] Hindi po sila magugulo. [45:18] Hindi po sila may istorbo. [45:21] Hindi magugulo yung mga media. [45:22] Tapos one minute lang. [45:24] Di ba? [45:24] So okay na rin po yun. [45:26] Okay na din po siguro yun. [45:29] If in case lang po [45:30] na pumunta po si VP Sarah [45:31] and humarap shoppers [45:33] involuntarily, [45:35] sa project po ba [45:36] ang mag-direct sa kanya? [45:38] Private? [45:39] Public? [45:40] Wala pa pong final [45:42] decision on that. [45:46] Baka hindi pa napag... [45:47] Pero feeling ko si Rog eh. [45:51] O, di ba? [45:52] May feeling lang ako [45:53] pero hindi naman ako. [45:54] Siyempre, hindi naman ako. [45:55] Hindi nga ako, ano, [45:56] official spokesperson. [45:58] Unofficial spokesperson [45:58] lang ako. [45:59] So hindi rin ako [46:00] makakapag-comment [46:01] masyado tungkol doon. [46:02] How about [46:02] how about [46:02] Attorney Kapunan [46:03] since she was the [46:04] first to bring that up [46:05] last week? [46:06] Anong last week? [46:08] Again, [46:09] wala pa pong [46:10] final decision [46:11] on who will [46:12] conduct the [46:13] direct [46:14] or [46:15] direct [46:16] on [46:18] the vice president [46:20] or [46:20] Zulaika [46:21] if ever they will appear [46:23] or [46:23] isa mon. [46:26] Sabi niyo po, ready na. [46:29] Thank you. [46:30] Hindi kasi... [46:30] Ready lahat. [46:32] Ready naman. [46:32] Ready ang prosecutors. [46:33] Siyempre, kung bagyo, [46:34] kailangan bagyo rin yung [46:35] pantapat mo, di ba? [46:37] Ready ang prosecutors. [46:38] Bagyong Lorna. [46:41] O, so si attorney [46:42] kapunan niya. [46:45] Honestly, wala pang [46:46] final decision [46:47] on who will [46:48] conduct the [46:50] presentation [46:51] of the witness. [46:53] Just to add [46:54] quickly, you know, [46:55] as we've stated, [46:56] whether or not [46:57] she will attend [46:57] before the impeachment [46:58] court, no, [46:59] or appear before [47:00] in the impeachment [47:00] court, that's [47:01] the respondent's [47:02] prerogative, [47:03] you know, but [47:03] well, if she will [47:05] decide to do so, [47:06] that has been [47:09] what the public [47:10] has been asking [47:11] for. [47:12] Everyone has been [47:13] waiting for her [47:14] to personally [47:15] respond to the [47:16] serious allegations [47:17] against her [47:18] because as we [47:19] know, we [47:20] recognize and [47:21] respect her [47:22] right to remain [47:23] silent, but [47:23] silence does not [47:25] answer serious [47:26] allegations of [47:27] unexplained wealth [47:29] consisting of [47:30] billions of [47:31] financial transactions [47:33] of grave threats [47:36] again against the [47:37] life of the [47:37] president, of [47:40] confidential funds [47:41] amounting to [47:42] hundreds of [47:42] millions of [47:43] pesos, and [47:44] bribery in the [47:45] deped, so [47:46] that's it. [47:49] Before we [47:50] entertain the [47:51] next question, [47:52] let us just [47:53] recognize the [47:54] presence of [47:55] Congressman Jay [47:56] Kumon. [48:02] All right. [48:03] Hi, G. [48:05] Good morning, [48:05] Kongs. [48:06] Yes, Pao, [48:09] but do you [48:10] take the [48:10] statement [48:10] literally or [48:11] figuratively [48:12] yung prepare [48:14] for Typhoon [48:14] Indai, at [48:15] saka, [48:16] to follow up, [48:17] ang house [48:18] po ba may [48:19] preps na [48:20] for Bagyong [48:20] Indai, [48:21] literally? [48:24] Meron naman [48:25] kahit anong [48:25] agency ng [48:26] government, [48:27] may skeletal [48:28] force yan [48:29] during the [48:29] typhoons, [48:30] nakahanda po [48:31] yan. [48:31] sigurado [48:33] rin po kami [48:34] na nandito [48:35] kami, [48:35] o nasa [48:35] distrito, [48:36] or depende [48:36] po sa [48:37] kung saan [48:38] kami naka [48:38] duty [48:38] ng mga [48:39] araw [48:39] na yun, [48:39] naka-ready [48:40] rin po [48:40] yung [48:40] para sa [48:41] Bagyo. [48:42] But, [48:43] ang [48:43] tanong [48:44] mo ba [48:44] yung [48:44] sa [48:45] hearing? [48:47] Kung [48:48] ano po, [48:48] literally [48:49] or figuratively? [48:50] Pareha, [48:51] syempre [48:51] kailangan [48:52] handa [48:52] pareha. [48:54] Syempre, [48:54] alam [48:55] naman [48:55] natin, [48:57] yung [48:57] mga [48:57] nakaraang [48:57] taon, [48:58] malalakas [48:58] po yung [48:59] hagupit [49:00] ng [49:00] mga [49:00] bagyo, [49:01] meron [49:02] naman po [49:02] yung [49:02] mga [49:02] bagyo [49:03] na [49:03] lumilihis [49:04] na [49:04] tumiiwas. [49:06] So, [49:07] sana po, [49:09] kung sakaling [49:10] magla-landfall, [49:11] nakahanda [49:12] naman po. [49:13] So, [49:14] kung [49:14] literally [49:16] and figuratively, [49:17] pareha [49:17] naman po [49:18] nakahanda. [49:19] Nakahanda rin [49:19] si Roj, [49:20] actually. [49:21] Ready-ready [49:21] na siya. [49:23] Ano lang po, [49:24] follow-up lang po, [49:25] sabi nga ni [49:25] Atty. [49:25] J, [49:26] in a realm [49:27] of possibilities, [49:29] yung pagpunta [49:29] po ni Atty. [49:30] Zalaika [49:30] ngayon sa [49:31] Senate, [49:31] what if, [49:32] for example, [49:33] lang may legal [49:34] remedies po [49:35] nagagawin, [49:35] may choice po [49:37] ba siya [49:37] na hindi [49:38] humarap [49:39] next week? [49:40] Kunwari lang [49:40] naman, [49:41] kung ano yung, [49:43] of course, [49:44] we are not [49:44] privy to the [49:44] details of the [49:45] meeting, [49:46] but kung meron [49:46] man po silang [49:47] mga remedies. [49:56] Kapag nag-issue [49:57] ng [49:58] Sabi ng [49:58] impeachment court, [49:59] that's a [50:00] compulsory process [50:01] that any [50:01] person [50:02] should comply [50:03] with. [50:04] Otherwise, [50:04] the impeachment [50:06] court would [50:07] have to [50:08] exercise its [50:09] right to [50:10] enforce [50:11] that [50:11] compulsory [50:12] process. [50:14] Thank you, [50:15] pa. [50:16] Okay. [50:17] We have no [50:29] intention to [50:30] do that. [50:30] Pero, [50:31] okay, [50:31] dipo. [50:33] You know, [50:33] that's a matter [50:34] that falls [50:35] within the [50:36] discretion [50:37] of the impeachment [50:39] court and [50:39] the individual [50:41] senator sitting [50:43] as judges [50:45] in this [50:45] impeachment [50:46] proceeding. [50:47] But again, [50:49] what's important [50:50] is that in the [50:52] rules on [50:52] impeachment, [50:53] all senators [50:54] are required to [50:55] observe political [50:56] neutrality. [50:58] This means that [50:59] they should [51:00] participate in [51:01] these proceedings [51:02] and ultimately [51:06] render judgment [51:07] regardless of [51:08] their political [51:09] affiliations and [51:11] preferences. [51:12] And we [51:14] have faith [51:14] on the [51:16] senator judges [51:17] that they [51:18] will comply [51:19] with this [51:19] obligation. [51:20] For the [51:22] prosecutors, [51:23] is this [51:24] something [51:25] na napag-usapan [51:26] na po, [51:26] yung possibility [51:27] or yung [51:28] na pwede [51:30] mag-file [51:31] ng motion [51:33] to inhibit [51:34] yung [51:34] some [51:35] senator judges? [51:36] Hindi po [51:36] namin [51:37] pinag-uusapan [51:38] yan. [51:38] Again, [51:38] our focus [51:39] is to [51:39] present [51:40] our [51:40] evidence. [51:41] Okay po. [51:42] Thank you. [51:45] Any other [51:46] questions? [52:23] Hindi ako [52:23] familiar [52:24] dun sa [52:24] numbers. [52:25] Siguro, [52:26] na-crunch [52:26] na ba [52:26] yung [52:27] numbers [52:28] na yun? [52:29] So, [52:29] if ever [52:29] man na [52:30] ganun, [52:31] sabi ko nga [52:32] ako talaga [52:33] itong [52:33] grave threats [52:35] na to, [52:36] hindi ko [52:36] matanggal-tanggal [52:37] sa utak ko. [52:38] Talagang [52:38] hindi ako [52:39] mapakali [52:40] dito. [52:40] Kahit na [52:41] siguro po [52:42] minsan, [52:44] kahit [52:44] million na [52:45] yung [52:45] expenses, [52:48] if ever [52:48] ganun man, [52:49] wala po tayong [52:52] karapatan na [52:52] ipapatay ang [52:53] Pangulo [52:53] ng Pilipinas. [52:55] Parang [52:55] ako, [52:56] personal ko [52:57] lang yun, [52:57] ganun talaga [52:58] yung [52:58] kurot sa [52:59] dibdib ko. [53:01] Masakit eh. [53:02] Lalo, [53:02] ilokano pa [53:03] ako. [53:04] So, [53:05] talagang [53:05] hindi ko [53:07] alam yung [53:08] amount eh. [53:08] Hindi ko [53:09] alam yung [53:09] exactong [53:10] amount. [53:10] So, [53:10] I think [53:11] pwede nilang [53:12] i-crunch [53:12] yung numbers. [53:13] Siguro yung [53:14] sinasabi mo, [53:14] ma'am, [53:15] yung [53:15] na-mention [53:16] ni [53:16] former [53:18] speaker [53:18] APC. [53:20] Pero parang [53:20] hindi ako [53:21] familiar kung [53:22] dinisput [53:23] or sinagot [53:24] to ni [53:24] current. [53:28] So, [53:28] hindi ako [53:28] sure dun. [53:29] Pero, [53:31] medyo, [53:32] iba yung [53:32] tama, [53:33] iba landing [53:33] sa akin [53:34] itong [53:34] gusto mong [53:36] ipapatay [53:36] yung [53:36] Pangulo. [53:37] Medyo [53:37] unacceptable [53:39] talaga. [53:39] Okay, [53:42] thank you. [53:43] Can we [53:44] respond to that [53:45] quickly? [53:45] Daily yun. [53:47] Kung malala po [53:48] natin, [53:48] meron isang [53:49] principal ba [53:50] yun [53:50] na nag-nackow [53:51] ng 5,000 [53:52] pesos? [53:53] Mas mahal [53:53] naman po [53:54] yung sahod [53:54] ng mga [53:54] piskal [53:55] dun, [53:55] at pinaparanggot [53:58] pa rin siya. [54:01] Hello? [54:02] Sorry po. [54:03] I just wanted [54:03] to clarify. [54:04] Parang hindi [54:05] naman po [54:05] sinabing [54:06] daily yung [54:07] amount [54:07] na yun. [54:08] I think [54:09] it's the [54:09] amount [54:09] for the [54:10] entire [54:10] trial. [54:11] Ang nabasa [54:15] ko po [54:16] ay [54:16] for the [54:17] entire [54:18] trial po [54:19] yata [54:19] yung [54:19] reserve [54:20] na [54:20] amount [54:21] na yun. [54:22] Well, [54:26] first, [54:27] we want [54:27] to verify [54:28] the [54:28] figures. [54:29] Dahil [54:30] it doesn't [54:31] make sense [54:31] for any [54:33] office [54:33] to spend [54:34] 25 [54:34] million [54:35] on one [54:35] day. [54:37] Ang gastos [54:37] naman dun, [54:38] you know, [54:39] the lights, [54:39] the swell, [54:40] though. [54:40] Daily yata [54:41] na expenses, [54:42] hindi [54:42] impeachment [54:43] expenses. [54:46] Daily yun, [54:47] OPEX [54:48] ng Senate, [54:49] not because [54:50] of the [54:50] impeachment. [54:51] Ayun. [54:52] Okay, [54:53] sige. [54:53] 27 million [54:54] available for [54:55] possible [54:56] impeachment [54:56] trial na [54:57] buo. [54:58] Ayun, [54:59] klaro. [55:00] For the [55:00] entire [55:00] pala yun. [55:02] How much? [55:04] 27. [55:05] 27 million [55:06] for the [55:07] entire [55:07] impeachment, [55:08] not [55:08] daily [55:10] expenses. [55:12] Pero masakit [55:12] pa rin. [55:15] Yes, [55:16] sususugan ko lang [55:17] yung sinabi [55:18] ni [55:18] Kong [55:19] Rojo. [55:20] Tama [55:20] ko yun, [55:21] kung [55:21] hubang [55:22] pinagnakawan [55:23] tayo [55:23] ng kapit-bahay [55:24] natin, [55:25] isang bagay, [55:27] for example, [55:28] cellphone mo [55:28] worth 10,000 [55:29] pesos, [55:30] worth 20,000 [55:31] pesos, [55:31] lalo na [55:32] ginagamit mo [55:32] sa kabuhayan mo, [55:34] tama bang [55:34] maging [55:35] dahilan [55:37] na huwag [55:38] na nating [55:38] ituloy [55:39] yung kaso [55:40] para panagutin [55:41] yung [55:41] nagnakaw [55:42] sa'yo [55:42] dahil [55:43] ang babaw [55:43] lang naman [55:44] ng amount [55:44] dahil [55:45] mas malaki [55:46] pa ang [55:46] gagastosin [55:47] ng gobyerno [55:47] sa paglilitis [55:48] na ito. [55:49] Siyempre, [55:49] hindi ho. [55:50] Bakit? [55:51] Dapat ho, [55:52] may pananagutan [55:53] ang mga gumawa [55:54] ng hindi ho [55:55] tama. [55:55] Let's remember, [55:56] impeachment is a [55:57] constitutional process. [55:59] This is an [55:59] important [56:00] accountability [56:01] mechanism [56:02] under the [56:03] Constitution [56:03] to hold [56:04] our highest [56:05] public officials [56:06] accountable. [56:07] So, [56:08] dapat, [56:08] yan ho [56:08] ang focus [56:09] natin [56:09] dyan. [56:24] Tuloy naman po [56:25] yung [56:25] investigasyon. [56:26] Hindi naman po [56:27] huminto. [56:29] So, [56:30] it's up to [56:31] the investigating [56:32] bodies. [56:32] They're doing [56:33] their work. [56:34] Kung saan [56:36] ang ebidensya, [56:36] sundan. [56:39] Yung sa [56:42] kongreso po [56:43] noon, [56:43] nalala nyo, [56:44] ikaw naman [56:45] nandito ka, [56:45] alam mo yun. [56:46] Siyempre, [56:47] may mga [56:48] agam-agam po, [56:49] may manifestations [56:50] na we cannot [56:51] investigate [56:51] ourselves. [56:53] So, [56:54] as the [56:56] leadership [56:56] deemed it, [56:57] we left it [56:58] to the [56:59] investigating [56:59] bodies. [57:00] Kasi nga po, [57:01] may mga [57:02] kasama rin po [57:02] kami na [57:03] napapanasasama. [57:06] Although, [57:06] wala naman pong [57:07] directa pa sa [57:09] ongoing pa po [57:10] yung investigation. [57:11] So, [57:12] habang gumugulong [57:13] po yung [57:13] investigasyon, [57:14] eh hintayin po [57:15] natin yung [57:16] resulta. [57:16] Hindi naman po [57:17] pwedeng [57:17] sinabi ni [57:18] ganito, [57:18] sinabi ni [57:19] ganyan. [57:20] Hindi naman po [57:21] pwedeng [57:21] Facebook talk [57:22] lang, [57:22] chismis. [57:23] So, [57:23] focus tayo doon [57:25] para at least [57:26] meron tayong [57:28] sinusundan na [57:29] maayos. [57:30] Alright, [57:30] I have one more [57:30] question. [57:31] Sorry, [57:32] habol na lang po [57:32] kasi bago po ito. [57:34] Na-interview po si [57:35] Davao City Mayor [57:37] Baste Duterte [57:38] sa The Hague [57:38] Netherlands [57:38] and he has [57:39] some remarks [57:40] on the impeachment [57:41] trial. [57:41] So, [57:41] reaction siguro [57:42] from the [57:43] prosecutors [57:44] and perhaps [57:45] to DS Ortega. [57:46] I quote him, [57:47] ginawa nila [57:48] impeachment [57:48] yung entire [57:49] campaign [57:50] for three [57:50] years [57:50] kasi gusto [57:51] nila [57:52] na sila [57:52] pa rin. [57:52] They are [57:53] preventing [57:53] the vice [57:54] president [57:54] in [57:55] Dysara [57:55] Duterte [57:55] to run [57:56] for the [57:57] 2028 [57:57] elections. [57:58] Yan ang [57:58] main reason [57:59] ng impeachment [58:00] na yan. [58:00] Any reaction po? [58:01] Kapatid niya yun eh. [58:02] Ganon talaga [58:03] magiging [58:03] reaction niya. [58:05] Kung may [58:05] pagkasalaman [58:06] yung kapatid niya [58:07] o wala, [58:09] siyempre [58:09] pagtatanggol niya [58:10] pa rin yan. [58:10] How about [58:12] the [58:13] prospects po? [58:14] May gusto po [58:14] bang mag-react [58:15] din sa statement [58:16] ni Mayor [58:18] Bastet? [58:25] A quick one. [58:26] Again, [58:26] everyone's entitled [58:27] to their own [58:28] opinion. [58:28] But at the end [58:29] of the day, [58:29] ang importante [58:30] dito, [58:32] pakinggan [58:32] natin [58:32] pare-pareho [58:33] at surin [58:34] natin [58:34] ng maayos [58:35] ng masinsina [58:36] ng ebidensya [58:36] na ilalatag [58:37] ng magkabilang [58:38] panig. [58:39] At sa [58:39] pagtapos [58:40] ng paglilitis [58:41] nito, [58:41] doon [58:41] natin [58:42] makikita [58:42] yan, [58:42] pare-pareho, [58:43] kung meron [58:44] ba talagang [58:44] matibay [58:45] na basihan [58:45] itong [58:47] kaso na to, [58:48] whether it's [58:49] politically [58:49] motivated [58:50] or not, [58:51] ang sasagot [58:51] lang ho [58:52] dyan [58:52] yung [58:52] ebidensya. [58:56] All right. [58:57] On that note, [58:59] we thank our [59:00] friends from [59:00] the media [59:01] for this [59:02] opportunity [59:02] and also [59:03] our [59:03] panelists [59:04] here, [59:06] DS [59:07] Pao, [59:08] Kong [59:09] Bell [59:09] Samara, [59:10] Kong [59:11] Roj, [59:11] and [59:12] Attorney [59:12] J. [59:14] Toloso [59:14] Jr. [59:15] Thank you [59:15] very much. [59:16] Good [59:16] morning.