Full debate between Chris Deluzio and Tony Guy

[0:00] to a debate in the race for Pennsylvania's 17th Congressional District from the studio of KDKA-TV. [0:07] Hello and welcome to KDKA's debate in the race for U.S. House in Pennsylvania's 17th Congressional [0:13] District. I'm Ken Rice and I'll be serving as moderator. Let's welcome the candidates. On the [0:18] left, the Democratic incumbent Chris Deluzio and on the right, Republican challenger Tony Guy. [0:24] Mr. Deluzio is 42. He's represented the 17th district in Congress since 2023. He lives in [0:30] Fox Chapel. Mr. Guy is 65. He's served as the Beaver County Sheriff since 2016 and lives in [0:36] Hopewell Township. I'll be joined in questioning the candidates by KDKA political analyst John [0:41] Delano, my KDKA News co-anchor Christine Sorensen, and KDKA reporter Josh Taylor. Here are the rules [0:47] for the debate. Candidates will have one minute to answer our questions and 30 seconds to give [0:53] rebuttals to their opponents' answers. The questioners may jump in with follow-ups from [0:57] time to time. We'll make sure those response times are fair. And finally, each candidate will [1:02] have 90 seconds to deliver a closing statement. And so let's begin. The order of questioning was [1:07] determined by coin toss. And Mr. Deluzio, the first question goes to you. Some members of Congress [1:13] are proposing a moratorium nationwide on data centers, citing strains on the electric grid and [1:19] environmental harms. And they say, why help AI take away more jobs? So some of your fellow Democrats, [1:26] including Bernie Sanders, AOC, Elizabeth Warren, Summer Lee, are all co-sponsoring the moratorium. [1:31] You are not. Are you out of step with those fellow Democrats? [1:35] Well, I've been clear and I've laid out in a letter that more than 100 members, [1:39] Republicans and Democrats, have signed that we should put a stop to reckless data center [1:43] development. I laid out exactly when we will oppose these construction projects. Communities get to [1:48] have a say in whether they want them or not. We can't see pressure on prices, whether it's electricity [1:54] or water supplies. You've got to have hiring of local labor. And let's be clear. The Republicans [1:59] passed a bill called the One Big Beautiful Bill that my opponent and Donald Trump and every other [2:03] Republican supported that gave tax breaks and tax giveaways to data center developers. [2:08] They don't need our public money. They're already making lots of money. And I don't trust the fate of [2:13] humanity in the hands of tech executives who have nothing but profit in mind, not our kids' safety, [2:18] not jobs, not our communities. We need to put a stop to these tax giveaways [2:22] and corral this reckless data center construction we're seeing all over this commonwealth of ours. [2:27] So, just to pin you down, you are not in support of the moratorium that some of your fellow [2:32] Democrats are supporting? [2:33] Well, we can call it a moratorium, a pause. I laid this out clearly. We're going to oppose [2:36] reckless data center development until there are standards in place. Those standards have not [2:40] been in place across the country. There are no federal rules for this. All we've seen is Republicans [2:45] passing a tax giveaway in the One Big Beautiful Bill. We should repeal that. And my letter that was [2:49] signed by both progressive members of Congress and some Republicans lays out exactly those standards. [2:54] And to your fellow Democrats who say it has to be a moratorium to give Congress time to write [2:58] regulations, you disagree with that? [3:00] No, I think we're saying the same thing. We're saying, look, without standards in place, [3:02] this reckless development should not continue, whether we're talking about in Pennsylvania [3:06] or anywhere else across the country. [3:07] All right. Mr. Guy, let me redirect the question to you. President Trump has said the only reason [3:11] communities shouldn't want data centers is if they want to end up being backwards and poor. [3:15] Do you agree with the president? And if so, how would you explain that to voters who don't [3:19] want them anywhere near their homes? [3:21] That's absolutely not the way I would put that. Data centers are absolutely necessary. [3:25] Everybody uses them today. You pick up your phone, you type something into it, that information [3:29] goes through a data center. We need to continue to work on developing data centers in a very responsible [3:36] way. One thing that we can't do is allow our adversaries around the world to control where [3:43] data centers are being built, and allow the information, the personal information of American [3:48] citizens to be filtered through those data centers in our adversarial opponents' homes. [3:54] We put our people at risk when we do that, but we do need to set up some guardrails on how [3:59] they're developed, give local communities the ability to determine when and where they're [4:04] developed, and set the rules so that the cost of those things can be paid for in full, as [4:10] well as the energy that supplies them, from these megacorporations, these information [4:15] companies, so that these communities aren't bearing the burden of this by higher energy [4:22] prices. [4:23] Mr. DeLuzio, 30 seconds. [4:24] Yes, this is a real source of disagreement, because the Republicans and Donald Trump, my [4:27] opponent, is a great worshiper of, passed the one big beautiful bill, and it gave tax breaks [4:32] to data center developers. They should not have done that. I opposed giving them tax breaks. [4:37] We should repeal it, and we need to have AI safety. In fact, I was very angry that Speaker [4:41] Mike Johnson sent the Congress home before we took action on AI safety, canceled votes, [4:46] as the Republican majority has done time and time again when tough issues came to the floor [4:50] of the House. [4:51] And, Mr. Guy, another 30 seconds. [4:52] Yeah, I won't allow my opponent to put words in my mouth. I never said that we should give [4:56] tax breaks to these megacorporations who are developing these data centers. Without question, [5:00] they have got deep pockets. They should not only supply what needs to be done to build [5:05] these data centers but supply enough energy to run them, as well as adding additional [5:10] energy to the grid through these energy facilities that they are building in conjunction with [5:14] the data centers. I'm not for tax breaks for these megacorporations. [5:18] It's just not true, Ken. He supported the one big beautiful bill that had those tax breaks. [5:21] It's a simple question. It's a bill he supported. [5:24] Give you another 15 seconds. [5:25] Again, I do not support tax breaks for these data centers and for the corporations that are [5:30] building them, period. [5:31] Right. My colleague John Delano has the next question. [5:33] John. [5:34] Gentlemen, President Trump says America is doing great and we should pretend that he's [5:39] on the ballot. Now, traditionally, midterm elections are a referendum on the conduct of the man [5:45] in the White House. So the theory is that if voters really like how things are going this [5:50] year, they should vote Republican. And if they don't like it, they should vote Democratic. [5:55] Mr. Guy, do you agree, what do you like most about President Trump and what do you dislike? [6:01] Well, first of all, he's not on the ballot. And I live in reality here, so I'm not going [6:05] to pretend that he's on the ballot. This is a midterm election. Typically, as everybody [6:10] here knows, typically those elections are dominated by the people who aren't in control of the White [6:16] House. And there's typically a change in leadership in the Congress. What has he done that I agree [6:22] with? He has cut taxes on overtime. He has cut taxes on tips. He has lowered the overall [6:32] tax rate for Americans, especially middle-class Americans. He has lowered the standard deduction [6:39] on our tax form. A lot of people got more money back this year because of what occurred [6:43] with those tax breaks. He has been the most open president to the media of anybody in my [6:50] memory. He has brought a lot of business back to this country, steel. He did a great job [6:58] with the U.S. steel-Nippon steel merger to get it back here when my opponent worked against [7:02] that with Joe Biden. I think those are the things. He focuses on jobs in the country and [7:06] helping out the middle class. [7:07] Mr. Deluzio, let me just ask you the same kind of question. Do you think that this is [7:12] a referendum, this election is a referendum on President Trump? And what do you dislike most [7:17] about the Trump agenda? And is there anything you like about it? [7:20] It's absolutely a referendum. And let's be clear, when Donald Trump became president, [7:24] paychecks were rising faster than prices. He has messed it up and reversed it. Now we [7:28] have growing inflation much faster than paychecks that are growing. He's started a war in Iran [7:34] that's cost American lives, that's driven up the cost of just about everything. We've [7:37] got gas at around $4.60 a gallon around here. Diesel prices north of around $6.50 a gallon. [7:43] Farmers are getting pounded. The price of everything is raising because of that war, because [7:47] of the reckless trade wars. We've got health care cuts where folks in this district, 10,000 [7:52] and plus, almost 200,000 across our commonwealth are losing their health care because of the [7:57] one big, beautiful bill my opponent just talked about, one that gives tax breaks to data center [8:01] developers, one that added $5.5 trillion to our debt. I've been in the Congress with Republican [8:07] majorities every year I've been there. They have added to the deficit and saddled my kids with [8:12] debt to the tune of trillions of dollars. That's the record of this president that has made [8:17] everything more expensive around here and bathing himself in corruption along the way. [8:21] Mr. Guy, you've got 30 seconds. [8:22] Yeah, I think my opponent's misremembering some things. So the inflation rate under Trump's [8:27] first term was very low. I think it was somewhere around 1.9% averaged over those four years. [8:33] Under Joe Biden, it was well over 4%. And since then, it's come down in the first year under [8:38] Trump. It's probably going to tick up a little bit this year with the gas prices. But I think [8:42] when you look overall, inflation has hit harder under the Biden administration, two years of [8:47] which were while he was in Congress. And nothing was done about it. And I never heard him call [8:51] out President Biden for those inflation rates. [8:54] Mr. DeLuzio, you get the last... [8:56] Yeah, absolutely. Look, the record's clear. And my opponent can ignore it all he wants. [8:59] Donald Trump has made inflation worse. He started a war. He started trade wars. He inherited an economy [9:04] where manufacturing jobs are growing in this country. They're no longer. All they're growing is in data center [9:08] developers, and they're edging out every other type of construction job. This war in Iran has [9:13] cost American lives and billions of dollars. It's driven up the cost of fuel and so much else. [9:18] I didn't hear a single thing he'll do to stop it. Not a single thing. [9:21] Thank you both. Christine. [9:23] Affordability has been cited as the top issue for most voters this election, particularly [9:28] the price of gas, groceries and utilities. Mr. DeLuzio, you've been in Congress almost four years, [9:34] and prices have only gone up during that time. What has your party done or proposed to improve [9:40] affordability for Western Pennsylvanians? Christine, thanks for the question. I'll give you three [9:44] things right now we can do. Number one, put a stop to the Iran war that the Republicans continue to [9:48] cheerlead under Donald Trump. It has driven up the cost of gasoline, diesel prices, fertilizer, [9:54] you name it. Take away the abuse of tariff authority that this president has wielded to punish friends [10:00] and foes alike that's driven up, again, nearly the cost of anything. Talk to farmers. Talk to small [10:05] business owners. Talk to union workers. Talk to manufacturers. They're getting pounded. And reverse [10:10] the health care cuts that the Republicans passed in the one big beautiful bill that's going to risk [10:15] closure of health clinics and hospitals and nursing homes all over our region. And that's just the tip [10:19] of the iceberg. You've got monopolies and cartels on things like meatpacking driving up the cost of beef. [10:24] You have to break the power of this corporate PAC money that comes through our elections and the super PAC [10:30] spending to get real reform, to bust those monopolies, to get more competition in our economy. [10:36] The Republican record, it's always the same thing. Their solution is tax giveaways for the rich and [10:41] powerful and jacking up the debt. They've done it every chance they've been in power. It's what they [10:44] just did with the one big beautiful bill. And Mr. Guy, a CBS News battleground tracker poll [10:49] finds most voters feel that President Trump's policies are making food and grocery prices go up and [10:55] that the Iran war is driving up gas prices. Do you believe there's an affordability crisis, [11:00] first of all? And if so, what are you going to do to help lower costs of everyday goods? [11:06] And are you willing to go against President Trump if that means helping your constituents [11:10] with affordability? [11:11] Yeah, this is the biggest failure of Congress during the last four years is we should not [11:16] be in a situation right now where affordability is a problem for the American people, especially [11:21] the middle class, by the way, especially hard-working people. So what Mr. Deluzio didn't tell you was, [11:28] again, I'll repeat it, he didn't fight for the jobs to stay here in Pennsylvania. Good, [11:32] well-paying union jobs for those U.S. steel workers. He didn't fight for them to stay here. [11:37] Those people have the ability to withstand the affordability issues. I couldn't agree more about [11:43] the Iran war. I am not a cheerleader for the Iran war. We need to end it and end it soon, [11:48] get energy prices back down into check, and that will help drive the cost of everything back down. [11:53] But what Mr. Deluzio failed to tell you also was that his big solution to people having trouble putting [11:59] food on the table was the Hot Dog Act, familiar with the Hot Dog Act. It is to regulate the price of [12:06] snacks in ballparks. That's what he put his name to. That's what he does to try to help the hard-working [12:12] people of PA-17. I'd like to respond. You may not know this. I know you don't really understand [12:17] how Congress works. You get to sponsor more than one bill when you're in Congress. Folks shouldn't [12:21] get ripped off anywhere, whether it's at a ballgame or here at home. And let's talk about [12:24] that Nippon Steel deal. The deal that you would have said yes to, 1.4 billion in investment. Folks [12:29] like me and Donald Trump and Joe Biden opposed that deal. And you know what the final deal was? [12:34] $14 billion in investment. Thank God you weren't saying yes when they offered $1.4 billion. [12:39] And it was due to the negotiations that happened after that time. He turned down the deal, period. [12:47] More was invested. And since then, subsequently, this past summer, Nippon has agreed to invest [12:52] several more billion dollars into the facility. That's creating jobs for hard-working construction [12:58] trade people, as well as longer-term jobs for the steelworkers. And the United Steelworkers [13:03] and every building trades union in this region has endorsed me for Congress, every single one. [13:07] We owe you a final word on that. Yeah, of course. They're going to endorse an incumbent. That's just [13:13] the way it is. I've talked to those folks. I've talked to a lot of people in the trade unions. [13:17] They don't want, they got their eggs in one basket. This is a midterm election. I work with these people. [13:23] They support me when I run for sheriff. I have a great relationship for them, with them, and I will support [13:29] them when I'm in Congress. Trust me. Thank you. [13:31] A CBS News poll from July shows 78 percent of Americans want the war in Iran to end immediately. [13:39] Mr. Guy, do you agree with that? And what do you think Congress can do about it? [13:42] Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that. And in Congress, I will take every vote I need to take [13:47] to end this war quickly. But we need to do it responsibly. The Iranian regime is an evil regime. [13:53] They chant death to America. They are the major sponsor of terrorism around the world. They've taken [13:58] advantage of this situation to hold the global economy hostage through the Strait of Hormuz. [14:04] They've killed 40,000 to 50,000 of their own people. We need to end the war. We need to end it quickly. [14:11] But we need to do it responsibly, not allow them to get nuclear weapons, which they are going to continue [14:16] to pursue, and not allow them the opportunity to take advantage of us and to execute, so to speak, [14:23] on their death to America chants. [14:26] Mr. Deluzio, same question. [14:27] DONALD TRUMP'S IRAN WAR HAS BEEN DISASTROUS. I OPPOSED IT FROM THE OUTSET. [14:32] IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO AVOID THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS VOTING TO SEND AMERICANS TO WAR, [14:36] WHICH IS WHAT THE REPUBLICAN ENABLERS OF DONALD TRUMP AND THE CONGRESS DID. [14:40] I'M A VETERAN OF THE WAR IN IRAQ. I'VE SAILED THROUGH THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ. [14:43] IT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS THE FIRST A PRESIDENT IN THIS MILLENNIUM THAT COULDN'T KEEP THE STRAIGHT OF [14:48] HORMUZ OPEN, AND WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR IT. ANYONE WHO'S FILLED UP THEIR TANK OF GAS AROUND HERE KNOWS THE COST OF [14:53] THIS WAR FINANCIALLY, AND THE FAMILIES WHO SENT THEIR PATRIOTIC YOUNG AMERICANS TO GO FIGHT AND SERVE KNOW THE [14:58] COST IN TERMS OF LIVES. IT IS PROFOUND. IT HAS BEEN A RECKLESS, RECKLESS PROSECUTION OF THIS WAR BY DONALD TRUMP, [15:05] AND REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON LET HIM DO IT AND CHEERED IT ALONG THE WHOLE WAY. [15:10] MY OPPONENT HAS NEVER PUBLICLY SAID ANYTHING OTHER THAN SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP. [15:15] YOU GO LOOK AT HIS SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S NOTHING BUT CHEERLEADING THE MOST EXTREME FRINGE MAGA THINGS, [15:20] AND TO NOW FINALLY WAKE UP TWO WEEKS OR SO BEFORE AN ELECTION, WELCOME TO THE FIGHT, MR. GUY. [15:26] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO STOP TO THIS WAR. THEY'VE BEEN DEMANDING A STOP TO THIS WAR FOR MONTHS NOW. [15:30] MR. GUY, YOUR 30-SECOND RESPONSE. [15:32] YEAH, OF COURSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO INTO THIS WAR. IT'S HURTING THEM IN A POCKET BOOK, [15:36] AND IT'S HURTING OUR ABILITY TO BE EFFECTIVE AROUND THE WORLD. [15:40] I WANT IT TO END, WITHOUT QUESTION. [15:43] AS FAR AS ME CHEERLEADING FOR THE WAR OR CHEERLEADING FOR MOST EXTREME MAGA ISSUES, [15:50] I CHALLENGE ANYBODY TO FIND WHERE I'VE DONE THAT. IT'S NOT THE CASE. [15:54] I'M MY OWN MAN WHEN I GET TO CONGRESS. I'M NOT DONALD TRUMP. [15:57] DONALD TRUMP IS NOT RUNNING AGAINST CHRIS DELUSIO, TONY GUY IS. [16:00] PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M GOING TO BE MY OWN MAN IN CONGRESS. [16:03] AND I SAID, I WILL VOTE TO END THIS WAR QUICKLY, BUT RESPONSIBLY. [16:07] MR. DELUSIO, YOUR RESPONSE. [16:08] LOOK, FOLKS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA HISTORY. [16:10] I'M SURE MY TEAM WILL HAVE IT ON CHRISFERPA ACCOUNTS, WHERE HE DOES SOME CRAZY THINGS LIKE CALLING FOR [16:15] THE DEPORTATION OF EVERY IMMIGRANT IN THIS COUNTRY, CALLING PEOPLE WHO ARE TRANSGENDER, [16:20] MENTALLY ILL, BELONGING IN THE INSANE ASYLUM, PALING AROUND ON PARLOR, WHICH IS A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM [16:26] THAT ANTI-SEMITES, NEO-NAZIS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS HANG OUT ON THAT WAS ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF [16:31] ITS RULE IN THE JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION. [16:33] THAT'S HIS LEGACY AND HIS HISTORY. [16:35] YOU CAN SEE THE POST ALL FOR YOURSELF ON OUR HANDLES AT CHRISFERPA. [16:39] I HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION. [16:41] MR. DELUSIO, THIS GOES TO YOU FIRST. [16:43] PENNSYLVANIA EXPORTS MORE GOODS TO CANADA THAN TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY. [16:46] BUT NOW IN RETALIATION FOR AMERICAN TARIFFS, CANADA HAS SLAPPED NEW TAXES ON THOSE GOODS FROM PENNSYLVANIA, [16:53] INCLUDING A 50% TAX ON AMERICAN STEEL AND ALUMINUM. [16:56] SO WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON THE TRADE FIGHT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS GOTTEN INTO WITH CANADA? [17:00] AND WILL YOU FIGHT OR WILL YOU ENABLE FURTHER TARIFFS? [17:04] WELL, I THINK THE PRESIDENT HAS SQUANDERED A CLOSE ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FRIENDS [17:09] TO THE NORTH AND THE CANADIANS. [17:10] THEY'RE A MAJOR TRADING PARTNER, AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT, WITH SO MANY PRODUCERS AND FARMERS HERE [17:15] IN PENNSYLVANIA WHO ARE NOW LOSING BUSINESS AND IT'S COSTING US JOBS. [17:18] IT'S RAISING THE COST OF GOODS RIGHT HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA. [17:21] WE NEED A MUCH STRONGER DEAL THAN NAFTA 2.0 THAT DONALD TRUMP NEGOTIATED, WHERE WE CAN'T SEE CHINA [17:27] AND OTHER COUNTRIES CIRCUMVENT THROUGH MEXICO TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE ALLIANCE. [17:34] FOR WAY TOO LONG WE SAW MANUFACTURING JOBS AROUND HERE IN WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA, FROM THE AK VALLEY [17:39] ALL THE WAY OUT THE OHIO RIVER AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN, WHERE WE SAW STEEL AND GLASS AND SO MUCH ELSE [17:44] GO AWAY BECAUSE OF POLITICIANS CARRYING THE WATER OF CORPORATE AMERICA AND CHASING A RACE TO THE BOTTOM [17:49] ON FREE TRADE. [17:50] IT'S NEVER WORKED FOR US. [17:51] AND DONALD TRUMP HAS MADE IT WORSE IN A POLICY THAT IS JUST TARIFFS ONLY. [17:55] YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL POLICY THAT I'VE PRODUCED, MY BUILD AMERICAN PLAN AND FOLKS [17:59] CAN READ ABOUT IT, ABOUT HOW YOU ACTUALLY MANUFACTURE IN THIS COUNTRY. [18:03] SLAPPING TARIFFS ON OUR ALLIES HAS NOT WORKED. [18:06] IT'S NOT WORKING NOW. [18:07] TIMES UP. [18:08] MR. GUY, YOU HAVE 30, EXCUSE ME, YOU HAVE 60 SECONDS. [18:11] YES, SAME QUESTION. [18:13] SAME QUESTION. [18:14] YES, SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. [18:16] THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT ALLY, CANADA HAS. [18:18] DONALD TRUMP OCCASIONALLY SAYS THINGS THAT ARE INFLAMMATORY TO GET THINGS TO MOVE IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION. [18:23] SOMETIMES HE'S EFFECTIVE, SOMETIMES HE'S NOT. [18:26] TARIFFS AGAINST CERTAIN NATIONS HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL. [18:30] THEY'VE BROUGHT BUSINESSES BACK TO THE UNITED STATES. [18:33] THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. [18:36] IN CANADA, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HURT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY'VE PUNCHED BACK TOO. [18:42] WHEN DONALD TRUMP BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF GREENLAND, EVERYBODY LAUGHED AT HIM. [18:46] AND NOW CANADA LAUGHED AT HIM. [18:48] AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEAL THAT GIVES US THE ACCESS TO RESOURCES, [18:52] THE ACCESS TO RESOURCES IN GREENLAND. [18:54] I THINK DONALD TRUMP DOES SOME AND SAYS SOME INFLAMMATORY THINGS. [18:58] I DON'T SUPPORT THAT PERSPECTIVE OR THAT ATTEMPT TO WAY TO DO THINGS. [19:04] BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP A CANDIDATE AS AN ALLY, AND WE NEED TO SCALE BACK THE TARIFFS. [19:10] JUST TO REPEAT THE QUESTION, WILL YOU FIGHT, WILL YOU FIGHT, OR WILL YOU ENABLE FURTHER TARIFFS? [19:15] VERY QUICK. [19:16] SO THE ISSUE OF TARIFFS, YEAH, THAT'S A QUESTION, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. [19:20] AND THE ISSUE OF TARIFFS, IT FALLS WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. [19:23] BUT CONGRESS CAN DO THINGS TO SCALE THOSE THINGS BACK, AND I WILL DO THAT. [19:27] RIGHT. [19:28] YOU WILL WORK TO FIGHT TARIFFS. [19:29] I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. [19:30] NOT IN GENERAL. [19:31] SO THE QUESTION IS FIGHT OR ENABLE. [19:32] WHICH WOULD YOUR GENERAL POSTURE BE? [19:34] KENNED, IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE. [19:36] FIGHT ON SOME ISSUES, ENABLE ON OTHERS. [19:38] YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. [19:39] WHAT ARE THE INDIVIDUAL TARIFFS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED? [19:42] MR. DELUSIO, 30 SECONDS. [19:43] NUMBER ONE, THE CONSTITUTION GRANTS THE POWER TO LEVY TARIFFS TO THE CONGRESS. [19:47] IT'S AN ARTICLE ONE. [19:48] THAT'S WHERE THE AUTHORITY LIES. [19:50] AND LET'S BE CLEAR, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SECTOR AND COUNTRY SPECIFIC TARIFFS, [19:54] CHINA, FOR INSTANCE, BREAKING TRADE LAWS ON SHIP-BUILDING AND STEEL, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN THE [19:58] PRESIDENT DO IN ABUSING TARIFF AUTHORITY, LAYING THEM ACROSS THE BOARD ON COUNTRIES FRIEND AND FOE ALIKE, [20:03] LIKE CANADA, WHO IS NOW, BY THE WAY, BEING PUSHED RIGHT INTO CHINA'S ARMS, OUR PRINCIPAL ADVERSARY GLOBALLY. [20:09] I THINK HIS APPROACH HAS BEEN RECKLESS. [20:11] WE HAVE TO CONSTRAIN THE PRESIDENT'S ABUSE OF TARIFF AUTHORITY AND SEE SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AROUND COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA. [20:18] AND, MR. GAIA, FINAL 30 SECONDS. [20:20] YEAH, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE AGREE ON ON THIS. [20:23] NOT ALL TARIFFS ARE GOOD. [20:24] I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY SELECTIVE WITH TARIFFS. [20:27] I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE TRADE AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER COUNTRIES. [20:32] AND, OFTEN TIMES, THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE PRESSURE OF TARIFFS. [20:35] I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT ABILITY. [20:37] AND CONGRESS NEEDS TO TAKE THE STEPS TO KEEP CONTROL OF THAT SO IT DOESN'T GO TOO FAR. [20:43] THANK YOU. [20:44] JOHN. [20:45] WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONGRESS AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE IN SCHOOL WE WERE TAUGHT THAT THE CONGRESS WAS A SEPARATE BUT EQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT PROVIDED A CHECK AND BALANCE ON THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, NO MATTER WHO THAT PRESIDENT WAS. [21:00] BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS CONGRESS HAS REALLY LET THIS PRESIDENT DO WHATEVER HE WANTS TO DO. [21:07] MR. GUY, YOU HAVE SUGGESTED THAT YOU'RE NOT A RUBBER STAMP FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, IF I PUT THOSE WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. [21:14] BUT LET'S GET SPECIFIC. [21:16] WHAT CHECKS AND BALANCES DO YOU INTEND TO IMPOSE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP IF YOU'RE ELECTED? [21:21] JOHN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. [21:23] AND LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. [21:26] IT'S PROBABLY BEEN DECADES THAT CONGRESS HAS ABDICATED THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND THEIR ROLE AS BEING AN EQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT, WITHOUT QUESTION. [21:36] I THINK WE NEED TO I THINK CONGRESS NEEDS TO STEP UP AND SAY THIS IS WHO WE ARE. [21:41] WE NEED TO ASSERT OUR AUTHORITY AND WE NEED TO WHOEVER THE PRESIDENT MIGHT BE. [21:46] WE NEED TO TAKE THAT PERSPECTIVE AND BE THAT COEQUAL BRANCH AND STAND UP TO A PRESIDENT WHEN WE DISAGREE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. [21:55] IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I ABSOLUTELY WILL STAND UP TO THE PRESIDENT WHEN I NEED TO. [22:00] SO YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM OBJECTING TO THE SPEAKER, IF IT'S SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON, ON ISSUES THAT HE FEELS SHOULD GO FORWARD. [22:07] YEAH, THIS DEBATE SEEMS TO BE TURNING INTO A REFERENDUM ON DONALD TRUMP. [22:12] AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE. [22:15] I THINK I'VE MADE IT CLEAR THAT CONGRESS NEEDS TO STEP UP, CONGRESS NEEDS TO ASSERT THEIR AUTHORITY, AND THAT MEANS WHOEVER'S THE PRESIDENT. [22:23] THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES. [22:25] MR. DELUSIO, IF YOU'RE RE-ELECTED AND THE DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL OF THE CONGRESS, WHAT KIND OF CHECKS AND BALANCES DO YOU THINK ARE MOST NECESSARY? [22:34] WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THE IRAN WAR AND TAKE BACK THE WAR POWERS THAT BELONG TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE CONGRESS UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION. [22:40] I VOTED FOR WAR POWERS RESOLUTIONS WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN PRESIDENT AND WHEN PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS PRESIDENT. [22:45] I THINK PRESIDENTS IN BOTH PARTIES HAVE ABUSED THEIR WAR POWERS. [22:49] I THINK THE CONGRESS HAS TO TAKE BACK AUTHORITY OVER TRADE AND TARIFFS TO PULL BACK THIS AUTHORITY THAT WE'VE SEEN DONALD TRUMP ABUSE TO HURT FARMERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND MANUFACTURERS HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. [23:01] AND WE'VE SEEN CORRUPTION FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION, PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP FAMILY AND AROUND IT, SHAKING DOWN BIG CORPORATE DONORS, SHAKING DOWN FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. [23:09] WE HAVE TO PUT A STOP TO IT. [23:10] IT'S RAISING THE COST OF LIVING FOR ALL OF US. [23:12] IT'S AT THE PUBLIC'S EXPENSE. [23:14] THERE'S CORRUPTION IN THE STOCK TRADING YOU SEE OUT OF CONGRESS. [23:17] WE HAD TO PUT A STOP TO THAT, TOO. [23:18] BUT I THINK THIS FIGHT FOR ANTI-CORRUPTION, FOR REFORM, IS BIGGER THAN ANY ONE PARTY. [23:24] IT'S BIGGER THAN ANY ONE PRESIDENT. [23:25] THAT CONGRESS HAS TO ASSERT ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ITS RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION. [23:30] SO YOU THINK A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE SHOULD SPEND ITS TIME INVESTIGATING THE PRESIDENT, PERHAPS EVEN IMPEACHING HIM? [23:35] LOOK, I THINK THE NEW CONGRESS, WHICH I THINK WILL BE A DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY, CANNOT SPEND ALL ITS TIME JUST SEEKING TO SETTLE SCORES. [23:41] WE SHOULD FIND WRONGDOING AND CORRUPTION THAT'S RAISED THE COST OF LIVING. [23:44] BUT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT COST OF LIVING EMERGENCY. [23:47] I'VE LAID OUT SOME THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DO, PUTTING A STOP TO THE IRAN WAR, TAKING AWAY THIS RECKLESS ABUSE OF TRADE AUTHORITY, REVERSING THE HEALTH CARE CUTS. [23:55] BUT THEN WE HAVE WORK TO DO TO BREAK UP THESE MONOPOLIES, TO STOP THIS CORRUPTION IN OUR POLITICS, TO GET THE CORPORATE MONEY OUT OF OUR ELECTIONS. [24:02] ALL OF THAT AND MORE WILL BE NEEDED TO DELIVER THE GOOD LIFE THAT HARD WORK SHOULD UNLOCK IN THIS COUNTRY. [24:06] MR. GUY. [24:07] MR. [24:08] YEAH. [24:09] SO I'VE FOUGHT CORRUPTION MY ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREER, AND TO ASSIGN THAT TO ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. [24:16] BOTH PARTIES HAVE SHOWN CORRUPTION. [24:18] WE'VE SEEN SOME THINGS IN THE NEWS THIS WEEK WITH REPRESENTATIVE ILHAN OMAR, THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S CORRUPTION TAKING PLACE THERE. [24:25] TO ASSIGN THAT TO ONE PARTY IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. [24:28] I WILL AGREE THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE ACTED CORRUPTLY IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, AND WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. [24:34] THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I'M RUNNING FOR CONGRESS. [24:37] AND HE MENTIONS THE INSIDER TRADING ISSUE. [24:40] THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE. [24:41] THERE WAS A VOTE TAKEN RECENTLY, AND MR. DELUZIO VOTED AGAINST. [24:45] I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT. [24:46] YOU GET THE LAST QUESTION. [24:47] YEAH. [24:48] THE INSIDER TRADING BILL THAT I THINK MY OPPONENT IS TALKING ABOUT DIDN'T ACTUALLY BAN INSIDER TRADING. [24:52] THERE'S A BIPARTISAN DISCHARGE PETITION, WHICH IS A WAY FOR MEMBERS TO GO AROUND LEADERSHIP TO FORCE A VOTE ON THE FLOOR TO BAN INSIDER TRADING. [24:59] THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN CONGRESS CONTINUES TO BLOCK A BAN ON MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TRADING STOCKS. [25:04] THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. [25:06] ALL RIGHT. [25:07] WE NEED TO PAUSE RIGHT NOW FOR A QUICK BREAK. [25:08] MORE OF KDK'S 17TH DISTRICT CONGRESSIONAL DEBATE IN JUST A MOMENT. [25:12] AND WELCOME BACK TO KDK'S DEBATE IN THE RACE FOR CONGRESS IN PENNSYLVANIA'S 17TH DISTRICT BETWEEN INCUMBENT DEMOCRAT CHRIS DELUZIO AND REPUBLICAN TONY GUY. [25:26] THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM CHRISTINE SORENSEN. [25:28] WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA IS TRYING TO POSITION ITSELF AS A TECH HUB AND A PLACE TO LEAD A.I. DEVELOPMENT. [25:34] BUT U.S. COMPANIES HAVE IDENTIFIED A.I. AS THE LEADING REASON FOR WORKFORCE REDUCTIONS. [25:40] AND MANY A.I. LEADERS ARE WARNING OF POTENTIALLY DIRE CONSEQUENCES IF A.I. IS NOT REGULATED. [25:46] MR. DELUZIO, WHAT DO YOU THINK CONGRESS SHOULD DO TO KEEP AMERICANS SAFE FROM A.I. [25:52] AND TO PREVENT MASSIVE JOB DISPLACEMENT? [25:55] CHRISTINE, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. [25:56] IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES I HEAR FROM FOLKS OF WHAT IS OUR FUTURE? [26:00] WHAT DOES A.I. LOOK LIKE? [26:01] YOU TALK TO COLLEGE STUDENTS, YOU TALK TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, [26:04] WHETHER THEY'RE GOING IN THE TRADES OR UNIVERSITY, [26:06] THEY'RE ALREADY WORRIED ABOUT JOB LOSS AND IMPACT. [26:08] I'VE SPONSORED LEGISLATION, NUMBER ONE, TO PUT GUARD RAILS AND PUT BREAKS [26:13] BEFORE WE GET TO SOMETHING THAT ARTIFICIAL SUPER INTELLIGENCE [26:16] THAT COULD THREATEN THE EXISTENCE OF HUMANITY. [26:18] EXPERTS ARE TELLING US THERE'S A NON-ZERO CHANCE. [26:21] WE NEED TO ACT, NUMBER ONE, TO DO THAT. [26:23] BUT WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS BEYOND JUST THIS LONG-TERM RISK ABOUT DISPLACEMENT OF JOBS. [26:29] I SUPPORT LEGISLATION OF LEAD OR COSPONSORED THAT WOULD BAN THE USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY TO [26:34] SURVEIL WORKERS ON THE JOB, TO TAKE HUMANS OUT OF THE LOOP OF DECISION-MAKING PROCESSES. [26:38] THERE'S A LOT THAT CONGRESS HAS TO DO. [26:40] AND YET, MY TIME IN THIS CONGRESS, JUST THIS LAST MONTH, THE REPUBLICAN SPEAKER CANCELLED [26:45] VOTES AND SENT US HOME IN THE FACE OF THESE DIRE WARNINGS ABOUT A.I.'S EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO [26:50] HUMANITY. [26:51] I THINK IT'S A RECKLESS ABANDONMENT OF A RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE NATIONAL ACTION. [26:55] IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS AND THE PRESIDENT TO DO SOMETHING AND TO GET [26:59] GLOBAL LEADERSHIP TO CORRAL CHINA AND OTHERS TO COME ON BOARD. [27:02] AND, MR. GUY, SAME QUESTION. [27:05] YEAH, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE REAL CONSEQUENCES OF A RUNAWAY A.I. SYSTEM COULD BE. [27:11] IT COULD BE ABSOLUTELY CATASTROPHIC AND EXISTENTIAL. [27:15] BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW FOR CERTAIN IS THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE LEAD IN A.I. DEVELOPMENT. [27:21] WE CANNOT ALLOW OUR INTERNATIONAL ADVERSARIES TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS BECAUSE THAT WILL LEAD [27:27] TO ANNIHILATION FOR THE UNITED STATES. [27:30] SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE LEAD. [27:32] BUT I'LL AGREE WITH MR. DELUSIO HERE WHEN HE SAYS THAT REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS AND THE PRESIDENT [27:38] NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND FIND A SOLUTION FOR THIS. [27:41] I WOULD CALL FOR A BIPARTISAN COMMITTEE IN CONGRESS TO REACH OUT TO TECH LEADERS AND [27:47] EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD AND FIND OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BECAUSE IT IS ADVANCING SO QUICKLY [27:53] THAT IT'S TOUGH TO KEEP UP WITH IT. [27:55] BUT IT IS A GREAT TOOL THAT CAN BE USED FOR ALL GOOD. [27:58] AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED FOR EVIL. [28:00] WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTROL IT WITHIN CONGRESS. [28:02] AND THIS IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE U.S. CONGRESS. [28:05] AND MR. DELUSIO, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS. [28:08] YES. [28:09] ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I SEE IS THAT THE COMPANIES AND THE EXECUTIVES WHO HAVE SO MUCH MONEY TO [28:12] BE MADE IN THIS, WHO ARE ALREADY MAKING BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS, ARE SPENDING TENS AND HUNDREDS [28:18] OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OUR ELECTIONS TO BLOCK THE CONGRESS FROM TAKING ACTION TO PROTECT [28:23] ALL OF US, TO PROTECT HUMANITY, TO PROTECT JOBS, TO PROTECT EDUCATION. [28:27] IT GETS TO THAT CORRUPTION OF MONEY IN POLITICS. [28:29] I'M NOT WILLING TO TRUST HUMANITY'S FUTURE TO A FEW TECH EXECUTIVES WHO HAVE NOTHING BUT PROFIT [28:35] MOTIVES IN MIND. [28:36] AND, MR. [28:37] GUIDE? [28:38] YES, I AGREE. [28:39] THE POTENTIAL FOR CORRUPTION IN POLITICS IS GREAT WHEN YOU'RE THROWING THAT MUCH MONEY AROUND. [28:42] MY CAMPAIGN IS RUN BY SMALL DONORS. [28:44] I DON'T HAVE BIG CAMPAIGN MONEY. [28:47] I DON'T HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN MY CAMPAIGN COFFERS. [28:50] I WOULD QUESTION WHERE THAT COMES FROM. [28:52] AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THAT TYPE OF CORRUPTION HAS NOWHERE IN POLITICS, AND WE NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR [28:58] IT FOR SURE. [28:59] BUT I'M NOT A MEMBER OF CONGRESS RIGHT NOW, SO I'M NOT A PART OF THAT. [29:04] DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT NEW ALLEGATION? [29:07] DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THE ALLEGATION? [29:09] YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS CLARIFIED. [29:12] IF THERE'S CORRUPTION GOING ON, YOU NEED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT AND FIGHT IT. [29:16] ABSOLUTELY. [29:17] I WOULD LOVE TO BAN CORPORATE PAC SPENDING IN OUR ELECTIONS. [29:19] I WOULD LOVE TO BAN SUPER PAC SPENDING. [29:21] I HAVE LED EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THE CITIZENS UNITED DECISION THAT OPENED THE FLOODGATES TO UNLIMITED [29:25] SUPER PAC SPENDING IN OUR ELECTIONS. [29:27] THIS IS A CLEAR, CLEAR CASE WHERE YOU'VE GOT EVERY REPUBLICAN IN THE CONGRESS WHO OPPOSES [29:32] THOSE EFFORTS, BOTH BANNING SUPER PAC SPENDING AND CORPORATE PAC SPENDING. [29:36] I THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. [29:37] IT'S THE VEHICLE THAT THIS MONEY COMES INTO OUR ELECTIONS, COMES INTO THE ADS YOU SEE ON [29:41] YOUR PHONE OR ON THE TELEVISION. [29:42] IT'S SO OFTEN THIS OUT OF CONTROL CORPORATE AND SUPER PAC SPENDING. [29:45] JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE MINORITY IN CONGRESS DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T GET THINGS DONE. [29:49] BEING A LEADER MEANS FINDING PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AND GET THINGS [29:54] ACCOMPLISHED. [29:55] IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH CORRUPTIONS, IF THERE, AS HE SAYS, THAT REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALL [29:59] AGREE ON THIS, THEN WHY IS IT GETTING DONE? [30:01] WELL, REPUBLICANS DON'T AGREE WITH US. [30:03] REPUBLICANS, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM SUPPORT OVERTURNING CITIZENS UNITED. [30:06] IT'S A BILL. [30:07] YOU CAN LOOK IT UP TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION RIGHT NOW. [30:09] NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM SUPPORTS OUR BILL TO BAN SUPER PAC SPENDING IN OUR ELECTIONS. [30:12] NOT A SINGLE ONE. [30:13] SOMETIMES THE PROBLEMS ARE BIPARTISAN. [30:15] THIS ONE'S WITH THE REPUBLICANS. [30:16] YEAH, I DISAGREE. [30:19] OKAY. [30:20] THANK YOU, BOTH. [30:21] JOSH. [30:23] WE HAVE SEEN NUMEROUS INCIDENTS INVOLVING ICE AGENTS DETAINING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS WITHOUT [30:27] IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AND WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. [30:30] A WOMAN ALSO DIED IN PITTSBURG AFTER BEING RELEASED FROM ICE CUSTODY AND HER DEATH WAS RULED A [30:35] HOMICIDE BY A MEDICAL EXAMINER. [30:37] MR. GUY, HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THESE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? [30:41] AND WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO HELP CONGRESS PREVENT CASES LIKE THESE FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? [30:45] YEAH, AS A 37-YEAR MEMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, SOMEBODY WHO'S PROUD TO HAVE SERVED THE PEOPLE OF [30:50] WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FIELD, I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THAT NOBODY WANTS TO GET, [30:55] NO POLICE OFFICER WANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN A USE OF FORCE INCIDENT, ESPECIALLY A DEADLY USE OF FORCE INCIDENT. [31:01] WHAT HAS HAPPENED, THOUGH, SINCE LAST SUMMER IN 2025, WHEN THE DEPORTATION PROCESSES WERE GOING WELL, [31:10] AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, NEARLY 2 MILLION PEOPLE HAD SELF-DEPORTED, THAT'S WHEN THE RIOTERS START COMING OUT, [31:16] THAT'S WHEN THE PAID PROTESTERS STARTED COMING OUT AND INTERFERING WITH THE OPERATIONS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE HERE. [31:21] AND SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IS MORE TRAINING FOR THE OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT THERE. [31:27] I'VE BEEN A STRONG PROPONENT OF TRAINING, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED STATE TROOPERS WHILE I WAS ON THE JOB THERE. [31:34] THAT HELPS. [31:36] A CONFIDENT, A WELL-TRAINED OFFICER IS A CONFIDENT OFFICER, AND A CONFIDENT OFFICER IS NOT GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES. [31:42] I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. [31:44] AND WHEREVER THE INVESTIGATION LEADS, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THAT. [31:47] MR. DELUZIO, SAME QUESTION. [31:48] LOOK, ICE HAS NOW BECOME THE MOST FUNDED LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE COUNTRY. [31:52] AND, AS YOU POINT OUT, HAS TAKEN AMERICAN LIVES AND LIBERTIES. [31:55] RIGHT HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WE'VE SEEN FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF AGGRESSIVE ICE BEHAVIOR AGENTS HIDING THEIR FACES, NOT DOING WHAT WE'D EXPECT FROM GOOD LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. [32:06] AND MY OPPONENT HAS INKED ONE OF THESE AGREEMENTS, A 287 AGREEMENT, TO DO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. [32:12] I THINK LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE FOCUSED ON LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY. [32:16] AND I'VE BEEN TO MOSHANNON. [32:17] IT'S THE LARGEST ICE DETENTION FACILITY IN THIS COMMONWEALTH. [32:20] IT'S RUN BY A FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION. [32:22] YOU KNOW WHAT I FOUND THERE? [32:23] JUST LIKE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, THIS MASS DEPORTATION REGIME THAT MY OPPONENT IS A PART OF, IT'S PUTTING PEOPLE IN THESE FACILITIES, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHOM HAVE NO CRIMINAL CHARGES, NO ALLEGATIONS OF VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. [32:35] IT'S PEOPLE LIKE JOSE FLORES, A CONSTITUATE OF MINE WHO WAS WORKING AT OAKMONT BAKERY, FOLLOWING THE RULES, GETTING READY TO PUT HIS KID IN A CAR, BUCKLING HER UP, AN 8-YEAR-OLD, AND HAD HIS FAMILY RIPPED APART, ULTIMATELY RELEASED AT MY URGING AND OTHERS. [32:47] THAT'S THE MASS DEPORTATION REGIME THESE FOLKS ARE A PART OF. IT'S DANGEROUS. WE NEED LAW AND ORDER ON OUR STREETS, NOT THIS. [32:53] MR. GUY, YOUR RESPONSE? [32:54] COOPERATING WITH ICE IS A LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, WITHOUT QUESTION. [32:59] WE SEEM TO IGNORE THE VIOLENCE THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED ON THE PEOPLE OF WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA, AND I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A FEW EXAMPLES. [33:06] ONE IS A COUPLE IN BEAVER FALLS, DRIVING DOWN THE STREET WHEN AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, DRUNK, DRIVING 80 MILES AN HOUR, SMASHED IN THEM AND KILLED THEM. [33:16] A MOTORCYCLIST IN DORMONT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, KILLED BY AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. [33:20] AND THE MOST EGREGIOUS ONE WAS A PENNSYLVANIA STATE TROOPER ON THE HIGHWAYS OF EASTERN PA WHO WAS KILLED BY AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT WHO GOT A DRIVER'S LICENSE FROM OUT OF STATE. [33:30] THAT TROOPER DIED IN A FIERY CRASH. [33:32] MR. DELUSIO, YOUR RESPONSE? [33:34] HORRIBLE, AND YET NOTHING SHOULD JUSTIFY MY OPPONENT'S POSITION TO DEPORT EVERY IMMIGRANT IN THIS COUNTRY OR TO SPLIT APART FAMILIES FROM THEIR CHILDREN OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FOLLOWING OUR LAWS, WHO ARE DOING EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY. [33:46] VALID WORK AUTHORIZATIONS, SHOWING UP TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS, NOT COMMITTING CRIMES. [33:50] THERE'S NO DEFENSE FOR RIPPING APART THOSE FAMILIES AND DISTRACTING LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND DOING IT ALONG THE WAY. [33:56] GENTLEMEN, I HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION. [33:58] THERE IS PAIN COMING FOR PEOPLE COLLECTING SOCIAL SECURITY. [34:01] RESERVES ARE RUNNING OUT. [34:02] IF CONGRESS DOESN'T DO SOMETHING, BENEFITS STAND TO BE CUT BY 22% IN SIX YEARS. [34:08] MR. DELUSIO, TO YOU FIRST. [34:10] TO PREVENT A BIG CUT IN BENEFITS, WHICH DO YOU SUPPORT? [34:14] PLEASE CHOOSE ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING. [34:16] RAISING THE RETIREMENT AGE, RAISING TAXES ON WORKING AMERICANS, OR RAISING THE LIMIT ON INCOME THAT CAN BE TAXED FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. [34:25] THAT LIMIT CURRENTLY $184,500 A YEAR. [34:28] MR. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT LAST ONE. [34:30] I SUPPORT LEGISLATION. [34:31] FOLKS CAN LOOK IT UP. [34:32] THE SOCIAL SECURITY 2100 ACT, WHICH WOULD SHORE UP SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THE REST OF THIS CENTURY. [34:37] THAT BILL WOULD ADDRESS THE FACT THAT SOMEONE WHO MAKES A BILLION DOLLARS PAYS THE SAME TOWARDS SOCIAL SECURITY AS SOMEONE WHO MAKES AROUND $185,000 A YEAR. [34:45] I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. [34:46] I THINK THAT CAP SHOULD BE BUMPED UP SO THAT, AGAIN, SOMEONE MAKING MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE IN SOCIAL SECURITY AND SHORES IT UP. [34:54] I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO ASK FOLKS AFTER A LIFETIME OF WORKING AND CONTRIBUTING AND EARNING THESE BENEFITS THAT THEY HAVE TO DELAY RETIREMENT OR TAKE A CUT TO THEIR BENEFITS BECAUSE WASHINGTON FAILS TO ACT. [35:05] AGAIN, YOU CAN LOOK UP THE LEGISLATION. [35:07] IT'S AS CLEAR AS DAY EXACTLY WHAT I WILL DO TO SHORE UP THIS PROGRAM. [35:10] IT'S THE SOCIAL SECURITY 2100 ACT AND IT GOES TO EXACTLY THIS PROBLEM. [35:14] SO OF THE THREE OPTIONS I MENTIONED, THAT IS THE ONE THAT YOU SUPPORT. [35:17] YOU DON'T SUPPORT RAISING RETIREMENT AGE OR RAISING TAXES ON EVERYDAY WORKING AMERICAN. [35:21] I DO NOT SUPPORT EITHER OF THOSE. [35:22] MR. GUY, SAME QUESTION. [35:24] YEAH, SO DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN SPENDING A CAREER DECADES DEMONIZING REPUBLICANS SAYING WE'RE GOING TO SHUT DOWN SOCIAL SECURITY. [35:31] THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. [35:32] IT'S NEVER HAPPENED. [35:33] THEY'VE WON A LOT OF ELECTIONS, THOUGH, TELLING PEOPLE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE. [35:37] OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS, I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. DELUSIO THAT FOR THE WEALTHIEST INCOME EARNERS THAT WE CAN RAISE THAT CAP TO SOME DEGREE TO HELP SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY. [35:47] THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS SIX YEARS DOWN THE LINE. [35:49] WE'VE BEEN KICKING THIS CAN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. [35:52] AND BACK IN, I WANT TO SAY, THE 90s, WE RAISED THE CAP ON RETIREMENT AGE, ON ELIGIBILITY FOR SOCIAL SECURITY. [35:59] I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, TOO. [36:01] PEOPLE ARE LIVING LONGER. [36:03] WHEN SOCIAL SECURITY WAS STARTED, THE AVERAGE PERSON ON SOCIAL SECURITY COLLECTED FOR TWO YEARS. [36:07] NOW THEY'RE COLLECTING FOR DECADES. [36:09] AND IT'S CREATED THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. [36:11] SO I DON'T THINK PEOPLE NEED TO PUSH BACK THE RETIREMENT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE AS FAR AS FIXING IT. [36:17] I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION. [36:19] I JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. [36:21] YOU ARE OR YOU ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE RETIREMENT, FULL RETIREMENT AGE, AT WHICH YOU GET FULL BENEFITS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY 67, HAS BEEN SINCE THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. [36:29] YOU WOULD OR WOULD NOT CHANGE THAT? [36:31] SO WHEN IT WAS DONE IN THE PAST, IT WAS INCREMENTALLY INCREASED. [36:34] I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A VERY, VERY SLOW INCREMENTAL INCREASE TO THAT. [36:38] SO THE PERSON WHO MIGHT BE 50 YEARS OLD NOW AND IS THINKING ABOUT RETIRING AT 65, MAYBE INSTEAD OF RETIRING IN 15 YEARS, THEY RETIRE IN 15 AND A HALF OR 16. [36:48] IF IT SAVES SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT AND RELY ON IT, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE. [36:55] MR. DELUSIO, REBUTTAL. [36:56] YES, IT'S A VERY CLEAR DISAGREEMENT. [36:58] I'M NOT GOING TO ASK, FORCE ANYTHING FOR WORKERS TO DELAY BENEFITS THAT THEY'VE EARNED, THAT THEY'VE PAID INTO. [37:04] I THINK THERE IS LOTS AT THE EXTREME TOP OF WEALTH, WEALTH THAT IS JUST NOT TAXED, INCOME THAT'S NOT TAXED, THAT COULD ADDRESS THE FUNDING ISSUES AND REVENUE ISSUES IN SOCIAL SECURITY. [37:15] AGAIN, THE SOCIAL SECURITY 2100 ACT DOES THIS WITHOUT TOUCHING AND, IN FACT, STRENGTHENING CURRENT BENEFITS AND FUTURE BENEFITS AS WELL. [37:22] MR. GUY, I HOPE I MADE THAT CLEAR. [37:24] I AM ABSOLUTELY FOR RAISING THAT CAP ON WHAT A PERSON EARNS TO THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS. [37:33] SO WE ARE SOMEWHAT IN AGREEMENT ON THIS. [37:36] JOHN, YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION? [37:38] ALL RIGHTY. [37:39] MR. GUY, WHEN IT COMES TO ENDORSEMENTS, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENTS, BUT THE ONE ENDORSEMENT THAT I COULDN'T FIND ON YOUR WEBPAGE, AT LEAST, WAS FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. [37:49] HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP ENDORSED YOU PUBLICLY, AND DO YOU WANT HIS ENDORSEMENT? [37:55] I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS A SHORT ONE. [37:57] SHORT ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION IS NO. [37:58] AS FAR AS I KNOW, HE HASN'T ENDORSED ME. [38:00] I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR HIS ENDORSEMENT. [38:01] I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ENDORSEMENT FROM MANY OTHER POLITICIANS, OTHER THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE NEARBY TO HERE AND HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH FOLKS IN PA-17. [38:12] DO I WANT HIS ENDORSEMENT? [38:14] THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO HIM. [38:18] I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO ENDORSE A GUY LIKE ME. [38:20] HE'S GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRIE. [38:23] NO, I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT. [38:25] WELL, MR. DELUSIO, LET ME TURN THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT. [38:29] THE INCREASING ROLE OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS HAS BEEN VERY PROMINENT THIS YEAR. [38:34] YOU WERE A BERNIE SANDERS CONVENTION DELEGATE IN 2020, THE NATION'S MOST PROMINENT SOCIALIST FOR PRESIDENT. [38:43] AND SANDERS HAS ENDORSED YOU FOR REELECTION FOR CONGRESS. [38:47] IS IT FAIR TO INFER THAT YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST? [38:52] AND IF NOT, WHAT PART OF THIS SOCIALIST EGENIA DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH? [38:57] IT'S NOT. [38:58] I'M A PENNSYLVANIA DEMOCRAT. [38:59] I'M A DELUSIO DEMOCRAT. [39:00] I'M A RUSSBELT DEMOCRAT. [39:01] AND MY COALITION SPANS FROM MR. SANDERS TO JOSH SHAPIRO AND REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS, WHICH YOU LOOK AT MY ELECTORAL PERFORMANCE OUTPERFORMING IN BEAVER COUNTY, OUTPERFORMING IN ALLEGHANY COUNTY. [39:10] I BUILD A COALITION THAT WINS, THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER. [39:13] AND, LOOK, WE CAN TALK ABOUT EXTREMISM ALL DAY LONG. [39:17] I FIGHT HARD AGAINST THE EXTREMISM OF CORPORATE PAC MONEY THAT SOME DEMOCRATS TAKE AND NEARLY ALL THE REPUBLICANS TAKE IN OUR POLITICS. [39:23] I'M NOT AFRAID OF CALLING THAT OUT WHEN EITHER PARTY DOES IT. [39:26] WE SHOULD BE CLEAR ABOUT CORRUPTION IN BOTH PARTIES WHEN IT EXISTS. [39:29] I THINK CONGRESSIONAL STOCK TRADING IS A VERSION OF CORRUPTION. [39:32] YOU DIDN'T ASK ME. [39:33] I, OF COURSE, WOULD REJECT THE DONALD TRUMP ENDORSEMENT. [39:35] IN FACT, HE CALLED FOR MY HANGING AND DEATH, SO I DON'T THINK HE'LL BE ENDORSING ME. [39:38] BUT MY OPPONENT, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME ADMIRER OF DONALD TRUMP. [39:43] IT WAS HIS PROFILE PICTURE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. [39:46] I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM UTTER ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST Fawning PRAISE FOR MR. TRUMP. [39:50] AND THAT WAS THE SLIGHTEST ATTEMPT YOU COULD POSSIBLY SEE AT TRYING TO CREATE SOME FALSE DISTANCE [39:56] RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. [39:57] WELL, YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE CONGRESSIONAL PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS. [40:00] ARE THERE AGENDA ITEMS THERE, SOCIALIST AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU REJECT? [40:04] LOOK, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY. [40:06] I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT MEDICARE. [40:07] THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT ARE PRETTY DURN POPULAR. [40:09] I THINK THE POLICE AND THE FIREFIGHTERS OUGHT TO BE THERE WHEN YOU CALL. [40:12] I LIKE LIBRARIES. [40:13] I THINK FOLKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEIR HEALTH CARE. [40:15] I THINK THE CORPORATE POWER AND THE EXTREME CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH IS A PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY. [40:20] IT'S RIPPED AWAY THE AMERICAN DREAM. [40:22] I'M FIGHTING HARD TO DISMANTLE THAT POWER SO THAT PEOPLE'S HARD WORK IN THIS COUNTRY DELIVERS A GOOD LIFE THEY'VE EARNED. [40:28] MR. GUY, 30 SECONDS ON THIS. [40:30] SURE, PROGRESSIVISM, SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THING AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, [40:35] JUST DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF TAKING AMERICANS FREEDOMS AWAY. [40:38] CHRIS DELUSIO WAS NOT JUST A MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS IN CONGRESS. [40:43] HE WAS THE WHIP. [40:44] AND HE SEEMED TO HAVE SEPARATED HIMSELF FROM THAT. [40:47] BUT WATCH WHO HE RUNS AROUND WITH. [40:49] ALL THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS, HE DOESN'T CALL THEM OUT. [40:52] HE VOTES WITH THEM AS A CAUCUS. [40:54] AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE HE ASSOCIATES WITH. [40:56] AND THESE ARE THE BILLS AND THE AGENDAS THAT THEY ARE PUSHING THAT HE IS IN LOCKSTEP WITH. [41:01] SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO MY OPPONENT ASSOCIATES WITH. [41:03] THIS IS A GUY WHO REFERRED TO THE JANUARY 6 COP BEATERS AND RIOTERS. [41:08] THE JANUARY 6 COP BEATERS AND RIOTERS AS A BUNCH OF GRANDMOTHERS WALKING INTO AN OPEN PUBLIC BUILDING. [41:13] THESE ARE COP BEATERS WHO BELONG IN PRISON, NOT WALKING AROUND WITH PARDONS. [41:17] I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A LECTURE ON PALLING AROUND WITH ANYONE. [41:19] AND THIS IS A PERSON, BY THE WAY, WHO THOUGHT THAT ELON MUSK'S TWITTER WASN'T QUITE RIGHT-WING ENOUGH FOR HIM [41:26] AND DECIDED, I'M GOING TO GO ON PARLORS WHERE HE WENT, WHICH IS, AGAIN, WHERE THE NEO-NAZIS AND THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS [41:33] AND SOME OF THE MOST EXTREME RIGHT-WING VOICES IN THIS COUNTRY EXIST. [41:36] IT HAD TO BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THEIR ROLE IN THE JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION. [41:39] TEN SECONDS. [41:40] YEAH, I CAN'T ALLOW HIM TO GET AWAY WITH SAYING THAT I SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT BEAT COPS. [41:44] THAT'S INSANE. [41:45] IT'S NOT THE TRUTH. [41:46] I NEVER SUPPORTED... [41:47] DO YOU THINK THEY DESERVE THE PARDONS DONALD TRUMP GAVE THEM? [41:49] I NEVER SUPPORTED THE PEOPLE THAT ASSAULTED POLICE OFFICERS AT THAT INCIDENT OR AT ANY OTHER INCIDENT. [41:55] THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. [41:56] TIME NOW FOR ANOTHER QUICK BREAK. [41:58] WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK IN JUST A MOMENT. [41:59] CONTINUE NOW WITH KDK'S 17TH DISTRICT CONGRESSIONAL DEBATE. [42:08] CHRISTINE SORENSEN HAS OUR NEXT QUESTION. [42:10] SO, CONGRESS HAS NOT PASSED MAJOR LEGISLATION PROTECTING KIDS ONLINE SINCE 1998, LONG BEFORE THE IPHONE WAS EVEN INVENTED. [42:20] MR. DELUSIO, THIS QUESTION GOES TO YOU FIRST. [42:22] IN LIGHT OF NEW REVELATIONS FROM TRIALS REVEALING THAT MAJOR TECH COMPANIES USED ADDICTIVE TECHNIQUES AND HARMFUL ALGORHYTHMS ON THEIR PLATFORMS, KNOWING KIDS WERE ON THEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK CONGRESS SHOULD DO OR NOT DO TO PROTECT KIDS AND TEENAGERS ONLINE? [42:38] IT'S HEARTBREAKING. [42:40] I'M A PARENT OF YOUNG KIDS, SCHOOL-AGE KIDS. [42:42] AND I THINK PARENTS, WHATEVER THEIR POLITICS, ARE SO FRUSTRATED AT THESE TECH EXECUTIVES WHO ARE PUTTING OUR KIDS IN HARM'S WAY, WHO PUT THINGS IN FRONT OF THEM KNOWING THEY WERE ADDICTIVE, KNOWING THEY COULD BE HURT. [42:52] AND I'VE LED EFFORTS IN THE CONGRESS, NUMBER ONE, TO GET SMARTPHONES AND SOCIAL MEDIA OUT OF OUR CLASSROOMS. [42:59] I'VE WORKED WITH GROUPS IN OUR DISTRICT, ACROSS PARTY LINES, TO GET OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO SUPPORT POLICIES, TO SEE POLICIES IN HARRISBURG AT THE STATE LEVEL, TO GET SOCIAL MEDIA AND TECHNOLOGY LIKE SMARTPHONES OUT OF KIDS' HANDS WHILE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM. [43:13] BUT, AGAIN, THE LOBBYING AND THE POWER THAT WE SEE FROM THESE TECH COMPANIES, IT'S TREMENDOUS. [43:18] IT CORRUPTS THE POLITICS. [43:22] IT'S, I THINK, WHY YOU DON'T SEE MORE ACTION FROM THE CONGRESS. [43:24] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING KIDS. [43:26] THERE'S A PIECE OF LEGISLATION CALLED THE KIDS ONLINE SAFETY ACT THAT PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE WITH ALMOST UNIVERSAL SUPPORT AND STILL WON'T COME TO A VOTE IN THE HOUSE WITH REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP. [43:34] OUR KIDS DEMAND AND DESERVE A HECK OF A LOT BETTER FROM OUR NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. [43:38] I'M GLAD TO SEE GOVERNOR SHAPIRO AND FOLKS IN THE STATE TAKING ACTION. [43:41] YOU NEED CONGRESSIONAL ACTION TO PROTECT OUR KIDS. [43:43] MR. GUY, SAME QUESTION. [43:49] ANOTHER FAILURE BY CONGRESS, I WOULD SAY. [43:50] YOU KNOW, WE'VE BECOME NOT JUST THE CONSUMER OF MEDIA THROUGH THE COMPUTER, THROUGH THE INTERNET, BUT WE'VE BECOME THE PRODUCT THAT IS CONSUMED. [43:56] AND TO THINK THAT THAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR CHILDREN, THAT WE'RE EXPOSING OUR CHILDREN. [44:01] AND I'VE GOT FOUR GRANDCHILDREN, SO I FEEL THE SAME WAY. [44:04] EXPOSING THEM TO THIS IS INTOLERABLE. [44:06] WE NEED, CONGRESS NEEDS TO ACT NOW. [44:08] WE NEED TO PROTECT KIDS. [44:10] KEEPING THEM OUT OF SCHOOLS, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT. [44:12] THAT'S IMPORTANT. [44:13] BUT JUST THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE'S A SAYING THAT IF YOU THINK THAT GIVING YOUR KIDS YOUR PHONE OPENS UP THE WORLD, GIVE THEM THE WORLD, IT ACTUALLY GIVES THEM TO THE WORLD. [44:27] SO WE NEED TO GREATLY RESTRICT THE ABILITY OF CHILDREN TO INTERACT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER PLATFORMS ON THE INTERNET, AND IT CAN'T BE DONE SOON ENOUGH. [44:41] THANK YOU, BOTH. [44:42] JOSH, YOU'RE UP. [44:45] A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS HAVE CALLED FOR CERTAIN CABINET MEMBERS TO BE IMPEACHED. [44:49] MR. GUY, DO YOU AGREE WITH THEM, AND WHOSE IMPEACHMENT WOULD YOU SUPPORT? [44:54] YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC THAN THAT. [44:57] IS THERE A PARTICULAR CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT? [45:00] AND WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS THAT ARE CALLING FOR THE IMPEACHMENT? [45:03] JUST WHICH, ANY SPECIFIC CABINET MEMBERS WOULD YOU SUPPORT FOR THEIR IMPEACHMENT? [45:06] I KNOW OF NONE. [45:07] MR. DELUSIO, SAME QUESTION. [45:10] WHICH CABINET MEMBERS, WHOM WOULD YOU SUPPORT FOR IMPEACHMENT AMONG THE CURRENT CABINET? [45:14] DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH HAS BEEN DISASTROUS. [45:17] YOU'VE GOT EVEN REPUBLICAN SENATORS IN WASHINGTON CALLING FOR HIS REMOVAL. [45:20] HE HAS CAUSED INSTABILITY ATOP THE MILITARY. [45:23] HE HAS PURGED SOME OF THE MOST SENIOR FLAG AND GENERAL OFFICERS FROM THE RANKS FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN SEEMINGLY PARTISAN LOYALTY. [45:30] I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS. [45:31] AGAIN, YOU HAVE EVEN REPUBLICANS JOINING DEMOCRATS AND RECOGNIZING WHAT A DISASTER HIS LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN IN PROSECUTING THE IRAN WAR, [45:39] IN WAGING THIS CRAZY CULTURE WAR THAT'S HURTING READINESS FOR OUR TROOPS, SQUANDERING THEIR PATRIOTISM. [45:46] PETE HEGSETH, IN FACT, WAS LIKELY TO BE IMPEACHED ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES, BROUGHT TO THE FLOOR BY A REPUBLICAN MEMBER OF CONGRESS FROM KENTUCKY. [45:54] AND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, MIKE JOHNSON, CANCELLED VOTES OUT OF FEAR OF WHAT THAT VOTE MIGHT SHOW AMONGST EVEN SOME REPUBLICANS. [46:00] PETE HEGSETH'S FAILURE IS CLEAR FOR ALL TO SEE. [46:03] OUR TROOPS DESERVE A HECK OF A LOT BETTER. [46:05] MR. GUY, YOUR RESPONSE? [46:06] MR. YEAH, I THINK SECRETARY HEGSETH HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. [46:09] IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH RECRUITING AND RETENTION OF OUR MILITARY MEMBERS, IT'S THROUGH THE ROOF, IT'S DOING VERY WELL. [46:16] WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE SENIOR OFFICERS AND THE FLAG OFFICERS WHO ARE BEING REMOVED, WHO ARE BEING DUMPED, [46:21] JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE EFFECTIVE. [46:24] AND THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS ON READINESS AND THE ABILITY TO BE AN EFFECTIVE ARMED FORCE UNDER SECRETARY HEGSETH. [46:31] I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR DOING THAT. [46:34] AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR AN IMPEACHMENT. [46:39] LET'S DO A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD SIMPLE EXAMPLE. [46:41] YOU HAD THE SAILERS AND MARINES ON THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, [46:45] WHO WERE SENT TO SEA FOR THE LONGEST PERIOD OF TIME IN MODERN AMERICAN HISTORY [46:48] BECAUSE OF PETE HEGSETH'S INABILITY TO PLAN FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN [46:51] WHEN HE LAUNCHED THIS INVASION WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP OF THE IRAN WAR. [46:55] YOU HAD NOW AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER HAD TO BE REMOVED AND MOVED OVER FROM THE PACIFIC [47:00] TO BACKFILL THEM IN THE MIDDLE EAST, PUTTING A GAP IN A VACUUM FOR NOW THE CHINESE TO FILL [47:05] IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA. [47:06] THAT'S DISASTROUS. [47:07] AND THOSE SAILERS AND MARINES AND THEIR FAMILIES TOLD US ABOUT HORRIBLE CONDITIONS [47:11] UNDER PETE HEGSETH'S LEADERSHIP OF THIS DEPARTMENT. [47:13] JOHN DELANO. [47:15] GENTLEMEN, SINCE WHAT THE PRESIDENT CALLS THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL WAS PASSED WITH REFORMS [47:21] TO SNAP FOOD BENEFITS, AN ESTIMATED 200,000 PENNSYLVANIANS ARE NO LONGER RECEIVING FOOD BENEFITS. [47:30] SO, MR. DELUSIO, YOU VOTED AGAINST THESE CUTS EVEN THOUGH MANY SAY THAT TOO MANY ABLE-BODYED [47:37] ADULTS WHO COULD WORK ARE GETTING BENEFITS. [47:40] WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE ON WHO SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT RECEIVE SNAP BENEFITS? [47:45] I THINK THE LAW SHOULD, NUMBER ONE, THE CHANGES TO THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL THAT TOOK AWAY SNAP [47:50] IN HEALTH CARE, I THINK WERE BAD CUTS. [47:52] YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT, ALLEGHANIE AND BEAVER COUNTY, LOSING OUT COMING THIS YEAR [47:57] ON HEALTH CARE AND RIGHT NOW ON FOOD BENEFITS THEY NEED. [48:00] THE BUREAUCRATIC REQUIREMENTS THAT THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT PUT IN PLACE ARE GOING [48:05] TO KICK PEOPLE OFF MEDICAID WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW ADDING ALL THESE FORMS AND [48:10] DOCUMENTS IS GOING TO MEAN THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE SERVICES WON'T BE ABLE TO GET [48:14] THEM. [48:15] AND THAT BILL, IT TOOK AWAY HEALTH CARE, TOOK AWAY FOOD BENEFITS, ADDED FIVE AND A HALF TRILLION [48:19] TO THE DEBT TO PAY FOR TAX BREAKS FOR DATA CENTER DEVELOPERS, TO PAY FOR TAX BREAKS FOR BILLIONAIRES [48:24] AND CORPORATIONS. [48:25] THAT'S THE FISCAL RECLASSENESS WE'VE SEEN WITH THIS BILL, IT'S WHY I OPPOSED IT. [48:29] MR. [48:31] GUY, ANTI-HUNGER ADVOCATES SAY THESE CUTS WENT MUCH TOO FAR IN SNAP FOOD BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY HURTING [48:38] THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN IN OUR AREA. [48:41] DO YOU AGREE AND WOULD YOU WORK TO RESTORE SOME OF THESE FOOD BENEFITS? [48:45] YES, SOME OF THEM. [48:46] I THINK YOU WERE RIGHT IN YOUR INITIAL QUESTION WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE NEED TO VET PEOPLE BETTER [48:51] AS FAR AS THEIR ABILITY TO WORK. [48:53] WE'VE GOT A LOT OF JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY, TENS OF MILLIONS OF JOBS THAT ARE GOING UNFILLED. [48:58] THOSE NEED TO BE FILLED BEFORE WE START GIVING AWAY FREE BENEFITS TO PEOPLE. [49:01] BUT WE SHOULDN'T LET CHILDREN SUFFER. [49:03] NO KIDS SHOULD GO HUNGRY. [49:04] IF THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN THAT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. [49:08] MR. DELUSIO, YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. [49:10] LOOK, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THAT OUT BEFORE THEY PASSED THE BILL. [49:13] THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULDN'T FIND OUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AND BEING LEFT HUNGRY IN [49:16] THIS COUNTRY, AND BEING LEFT HUNGRY IN ALLEGHANY AND BEAVER COUNTY, RIGHT AROUND HERE IN [49:19] PENNSYLVANIA. [49:20] YOU'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS OF FOLKS LOSE HEALTHCARE, NEARING 200,000 ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS [49:26] REFUSED TO EXTEND THE OBAMACARE OR ACA SUBSIDIES. [49:30] IT'S A RECORD OF BOTH INCOMPETENCE AND CRUELTY AND PAIN FOR PEOPLE WHO NOW CAN'T AFFORD HEALTHCARE, [49:35] CAN'T AFFORD FOOD, ALL ADMITS TO COST-OF-LIVING EMERGENCY THAT THE REPUBLICANS AND DONALD TRUMP MADE [49:40] WORSE WITH THIS RECKLESS IRAN WAR, TRADE WARS AND SO MUCH ELSE. [49:44] JOHN, I'LL... [49:45] MR. GAY, YOU GET THE LAST WORD. [49:46] YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, JOHN. [49:47] I HAVE LONG BELIEVED THAT THE BILLS SHOULDN'T BE MASSIVE BILLS LIKE THEY ARE NOW. [49:51] IT GIVES PEOPLE LIKE CONGRESSMAN DELUSIO TO PICK OUT A LITTLE PIECE OF BILL AND SAY IT'S [49:56] SOMETHING THAT HE DIDN'T LIKE AND SAY THAT'S WHY HE VOTED AGAINST IT WHEN IT'S 90% GOOD INFORMATION [50:01] OR GOOD LEGISLATION OUT THERE. [50:03] SO YOU WOULD'VE VOTED FOR THE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL? [50:06] I LIKELY WOULD'VE, BECAUSE IT DOES MORE GOOD THAN BAD. [50:09] AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT ARE BAD IN THERE. [50:12] BUT IF IT WAS BROKEN DOWN INTO MULTIPLE SMALLER BILLS, IT WOULD'VE BEEN LESS... [50:16] LESS WILDY AND EASIER TO PIN PEOPLE DOWN ON WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY VOTING FOR. [50:20] GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU. [50:21] ALL RIGHT. [50:22] IT'S TIME NOW FOR THE CANDIDATE'S CLOSING STATEMENTS. [50:24] THE ORDER WAS DETERMINED EARLIER BY COINTOS. [50:26] MR. DELUSIO, YOU GO FIRST. [50:27] YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. [50:28] THANK YOU ALL FOR A ROBUST DEBATE. [50:30] MR. GAY, YOU AS WELL. [50:31] FOLKS, YOU SENT ME TO WASHINGTON FOUR YEARS AGO TO FIGHT FOR ALL OF US AND I AM NOT DONE. [50:36] I LOVE WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA. [50:37] IT'S THE PLACE THAT MADE ME WHERE MY WIFE AND I ARE RAISING OUR FOUR YOUNG KIDS. [50:46] I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PROJECT FUNDING BACK HOME FOR THINGS LIKE OUR [50:51] INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS AND BRIDGES, POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND MORE. [50:54] IT'S WHY I FIGHT THE CORPORATE POWER THAT PUTS THEIR LUST FOR PROFIT AHEAD OF OUR SAFETY AND AHEAD OF OUR KIDS. [50:58] AND THAT'S WHY THEY GO SPEND MILLIONS TO TRY TO BEAT GUYS LIKE ME WHO FIGHT THEM. [51:02] UNLIKE MY OPPONENT, I'VE STOOD AGAINST DONALD TRUMP'S FAILED IRAN WAR, THE RECKLESS TRADE WARS AND THE RAMPIC CORRUPTION THAT'S MAKING LIFE MORE EXPENSIVE. [51:09] THE REPUBLICANS PLAN, SAME AS ALWAYS, THERE COULD BE AN ASTROID HEADING TOWARDS PLANET EARTH, THEY COOK UP A TAX GIVEAWAY FOR THE ULTRA RICH IN CORPORATIONS. [51:17] IT'S NEVER WORKED FOR US, IT'S NEVER WORKED FOR THIS REGION. [51:19] TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS IS A SCAM. [51:21] IT IS A SCAM. [51:22] TRUST ME WHEN I SAY IT. [51:23] HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE. [51:24] YOUR HARD WORK SHOULD DELIVER A GOOD AND DECENT LIFE THAT YOU'VE EARNED. [51:27] HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD, LIVE AND WORK WHERE YOU WANT, TAKE YOUR KIDS ON VACATION, GO TO THE DOCTOR WHEN YOU NEED TO, RETIRE WITH DIGNITY. [51:34] THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LUXURY FOR TOO MANY, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. [51:39] IT'S WHY I AM UNSPARING AND VICIOUS IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE CORRUPT POLITICAL POWER THAT HAS RIPPED AWAY THE AMERICAN DREAM. [51:45] I LOVE THIS COUNTRY. [51:46] I WAS 17. [51:47] I FIRST RAISED MY RIGHT HAND, TOOK AN OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION. [51:51] I WAS WILLING TO RISK MY LIFE IN UNIFORM BECAUSE I BELIEVED AMERICA WAS WORTH FIGHTING FOR. [51:56] IT STILL IS. [51:57] SO I'M HUMBLY ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR US, TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM. [52:02] THANK YOU. [52:03] THANK YOU, MR. D'ALIZIO. [52:06] MR. GUY, IT'S YOUR TURN. [52:08] YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. [52:09] THANK YOU, SIR. [52:10] THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A LOWER OPINION OF CONGRESS THAN ANY OTHER INSTITUTION. [52:12] AND IT BOILS DOWN TO ONE THING, A LACK OF TRUST. [52:15] TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE ELECTED INTO CONGRESS AND THEY BECOME CORRUPTED. [52:18] THEY'RE ENTICED AND ADDICTED TO THE PAC MONEY. [52:22] THEY'RE ALLIED WITH AND LOYAL TO THE EXTREME FACTIONS OF THEIR PARTY. [52:31] AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALL THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH IS RAISING THEIR OWN PERSONAL WEALTH. [52:38] IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT IS EXEMPLARY, THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THE REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE SO DISGUSTED WITH CONGRESS, [52:46] IT'S BECAUSE OF INSIDER TRADING. [52:52] PEOPLE CAN GET RICH. [52:53] PEOPLE GET ELECTED TO CONGRESS AND THEY GET RICH BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO INSIDER TRADE. [53:00] IN SPITE OF WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BILL, VOTED AGAINST STOPPING THAT INSIDER TRADING. [53:06] THERE'S NO PLACE FOR CORRUPTION IN CONGRESS. [53:12] AND THE PEOPLE OF PA-17 DESERVE A CONGRESSMAN WHO'S UNCORRUPTIBLE. [53:17] I SPENT MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE WORKING IN PUBLIC SERVICE. [53:21] I'VE BEEN A STATE TROOPER FOR 26 YEARS AND SPENT THE LAST 10 YEARS AS THE SHERIFF OF BEAVER COUNTY. [53:27] WHEN I WON MY FIRST ELECTION IN BEAVER COUNTY IN A DISTRICT IN A COUNTY THAT WAS TWO TO ONE DEMOCRAT. [53:33] AND SINCE THEN, REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS KNOW THAT THEY CAN TRUST WHO I AM. [53:38] THANK YOU, MR. GUY. [53:40] THAT CONCLUDES OUR DEBATE. [53:41] ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE AT KDK, OUR THANKS TO THE CANDIDATES AND TO YOU FOR JOINING US. [53:45] ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 3RD. [53:47] COUNT ON KDK FOR LIVE TEAM COVERAGE AS THE RESULTS COME IN THAT NIGHT. [53:50] I'M KEN RICE. [53:51] WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE NEWS.