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"the chair will now resume the trial the chair wishes to state for the record that the trial yesterday was mistakenly announced to have been adjourned when it should have only been suspended as previously agreed among the senator judges to afford some of the senator judges facing heavy traffic given"
[0:01] the chair will now resume the trial the chair wishes to state for the record that the trial
[0:08] yesterday was mistakenly announced to have been adjourned when it should have only been suspended
[0:16] as previously agreed among the senator judges to afford some of the senator judges facing
[0:23] heavy traffic given the season and perhaps pre-ASEAN preparations to be able to arrive at
[0:29] a later time although the chair said we will call the trial to order at 10. so for the information
[0:36] of the senator judges we shall call the roll at 11 a.m let the journal and the record reflect that
[0:46] intention and that that intention of the presiding officer so ordered before the chair recognizes
[0:57] senator padilla who manifested his intention to make a an interjection and manifest
[1:11] yes our apologies senator caietano given that it is suspended we will postpone your prayer for
[1:16] the next trial date apologies the chair wishes to make some remarks the chair wishes to place on
[1:30] record and remind the council for both parties and our distinguished senator judges including
[1:35] the presiding officer that while every witness takes an oath before this court to testify truthfully to
[1:45] answer all questions the witness remains entitled to the rights enumerated under rule 1323 section 3 of
[1:53] the rules and evidence which has supplicatory application to these proceedings the chair would
[1:59] like to spread into the records the provisions of section 3 section 3 rights and obligations of witnesses
[2:08] a witness must answer questions although this his answer may tend to establish a claim against him
[2:16] however it is the right of a witness number one to be protected from irrelevant improper or insulting
[2:23] questions and from harsh or insulting demeanor not to be number two not to be detained any longer than
[2:30] the interest of justice require number three not to be examined except only as to matters pertinent to the
[2:37] issue number four not to give an answer which will tend to subject him or her to a penalty for an offense
[2:44] unless otherwise provided by law or number five not to give an answer which will tend to degrade his reputation
[2:52] unless it is to be the it unless it to unless it to be the very fact at issue
[2:58] or to a fact from which the fact in issue would be presumed
[3:02] but the witness must answer to the fact of his previous final conviction for an offense the chair
[3:08] wishes to emphasize that an answer which may be unsatisfactory is not inherently contemptible
[3:16] supreme court cases have cautioned courts to use the power of contempt with the highest restraint
[3:22] the chair wishes to remind the members of this court as well including the presiding officer himself who
[3:27] who um stated that um his patience was wearing thin the other day that we are sitting as senator
[3:36] judges in a trial our rules behoove us to receive and evaluate the evidence with impartiality and due to
[3:44] the often lengthy examination by both parties with utmost patience as well i wish to also remind the council
[3:51] for both parties as well as our fellow senator judges including this representation that while we may
[3:58] rigorously examine witnesses and test the credibility of their testimonies we must refrain from resorting
[4:05] to a manner of questioning or to making declarations that elicit fear rather than candor the chair
[4:13] therefore respectfully requests um our distinguished colleagues the councils for the parties including
[4:21] disrepresentation to exercise restraint expected of us unlike in inquiries in aid of legislation an answer of
[4:30] i do not know or i do not recall may be extremely frustrating is one that we may encounter numerous times
[4:38] in a proceeding such as this what we can control however is how we appreciate and weigh the testimonies and
[4:44] statements delivered before this court we owe it to the parties to the witnesses and to the institution we represent
[4:50] to conduct the proceedings still with fairness dignity and respect in spite and despite our frustration
[4:58] and or um disappointment with what the witness may or may not be saying for the record senator judge
[5:09] lakson is recognized what is your pleasure sir mr presiding officer since we don't have a quorum yet and
[5:16] uh i i i may i respect respectfully suggest that we send a in writing the memo or whatever you call it
[5:27] that you just read so everybody will be notified thank you very much yes we shall do that um senator judge
[5:33] lakson um and um we shall also make sure that it is reflected in the tsn um share at this point um committed to
[5:43] uh senator judge padilla to recognize him given that he has been absent the past few days
[5:50] on account of a personal circumstance um particularly um in his um province our region
[6:00] of bicol in camarinas norte to be given the opportunity to um ask some questions and or make some
[6:07] manifestations with respect to the previous witnesses um that were presented by the respondent
[6:16] chair has determined to allow senator judge padilla to do so prior to recognizing the council for the
[6:23] respondent to present their um next witness but before senator judge padilla may i ask for the
[6:31] appearances for the party's um no need sorry we're merely suspended anyway um yes senator judge padilla you are
[6:39] a recognizer you may um ask your question to the relevant um council who handled the witness
[6:47] the president's um in our hearts as well
[7:10] Good morning, Your Honor, and my sincere condolences.
[7:49] Salamat po.
[7:51] Tama po ba pagka sinabi ko na masusing tinupad ng aking mga kasamang senator judges ang tungkulin na suriin po ang mga detalye sa ari-arian sa Davao City?
[8:05] Tama po.
[8:05] Nalinaw po ba sa testimonya ng inyong witness o saksi na City Assessor Engineer Jaime Adalin na eksaktong tugma hanggang sentimo ang assess at fair market value ng lupa sa Matina Crossing at na nakadeklara sa barangay 74-A sa Salen?
[8:33] Para sa aming pananaw po, opo.
[8:37] Pinatibay po ba nito ang argumento po ninyo na iisang ari-arian lamang po ang tinutukoy?
[8:45] We confirm that, Your Honor. Yes.
[8:48] Salamat po. Magtatanong lang po ako sa prosecution.
[8:51] Who was the handling lawyer at that time, Attorney Tulosa? Is he here?
[9:03] He's not here.
[9:05] Would you be able to...
[9:07] The Honorable Redon is recognized to try to answer or respond to the questions of the Honorable Padilla.
[9:15] We'll answer yun.
[9:15] Maraming salamat po, Attorney. At kasamang mambabatas. Doon po sa nangyaring pagpapakita ng pagbibigay paglalahad ng saksi ng depensa, ang prosecution po ba ay may maipapakitang bukod na titulo ng lupa para sa barangay 74-A upang patunayang dalawang magkaibang ari-arian po ito?
[9:46] So, tapos na po yung presentasyon po namin ng ebidensya, Your Honor. At hindi na po kami maglalahad pa ng dagdag pong mga ebidensya patungkol po rito.
[9:56] So, ano pong ibig sabihin wala po? Wala po, meron po, o hindi na po kayo magbibigay pa? Ano po ang...
[10:03] Hindi po ito bahagi ng katawan ng mga ebidensya na isumite na ng prosecution sa centrifuge.
[10:11] Hindi nyo na po kailangan pang pasinungalingan ang sinabi ng City Assessor, Engineer Jaime Adalin? Hindi na po?
[10:23] Pagbabalikan po natin yung pong testimonya niya ginaong City Assessor, ang kanya pong pahayag po roon ay malinaw, posibleng oo, posibleng hindi.
[10:33] Apo. So, wala po kayong may papakita pa na titulo na magkaiba?
[10:37] Hindi na po namin ito i-susumiti pa.
[10:40] Okay po. Maraming salamat po.
[10:43] Dahil tapos na po na panahon sa paglalahad po na ebidensya.
[10:45] Apo. Maraming salamat po, ginaong mambabatas at abogado.
[10:51] Balik po ako sa depensa.
[10:53] Apo. Your Honor.
[10:55] Tama po ba na sabihin kong muli ay masusing tunupad po ng aking mga Senators Judges na kasama
[11:04] ang tungkuling siruin ang pagkakaiba sa pangalan ng barangay, Samal Island?
[11:13] Tama po.
[11:14] Tama po.
[11:16] Nalinaw po ba ng inyong witness sa pagdinig na pisikal na umiiral ang lupa at eksaktong tugma
[11:24] ang tax value nito sa Salen?
[11:28] Opo. Sa aming pananaw po.
[11:30] Ano po ang kahalagahan nung, inabutan ko po pa kasi yun, nung sinabi po ng ating tagapamahalang hukom
[11:37] na nagkumpirma si Atty. Marco Pineda. Sino po ba ito?
[11:46] Yan po ang Register of Deeds ng Samal sa pagkakalam po namin.
[11:50] Ano po kahalaga ang sinabi nito na pinapatunayan niyang merong mother title? Ano po ba yung sinasabi niya?
[12:02] Napakita po kasi sa aming pananaw, again, napakita po kasi na meron pong mother title at yung naka-indicate po na address doon ay yun nga pong matanos.
[12:14] At yun po yung pinagtatalunan kasi hindi po san isidro yung nakalagay bagamat napakita natin doon sa titulo na mula pa lang sa mother title ay it was indicated as matanos
[12:27] at hindi na po napalitan yun. Yung nung mother title ay na-subdivide dito sa mga titulo po na nabili at isa doon ay yung nabili nga po ni Atty. Manasa Scarpio.
[12:39] Ako po kasi ay meron din mga nabibiling lupa noong panahon nung ako po ay artista pa.
[12:49] Meron po bang batas o desisyon ng Supreme Court na nag-aatas sa isang opisyal na baguhin ang lokasyon na nakasulat sa kanyang titulo kapag nag-file ng salin?
[13:01] Wala po akong nalalamang batas o any Supreme Court decision necessitating that, Your Honor.
[13:09] Tama po bang nasabihin ko na kahit ang register of deeds hindi nila pwedeng gawin yun?
[13:15] Hindi po. They cannot do that on their own, Your Honor. There has to be a court proceeding to do that.
[13:22] Isang tanong na lang po. Meron po bang sa presisintang ebidensya ng prosecution, meron po bang magkaibang lupa ang tinutukoy sa natitulo sa salin?
[13:35] Para sa amin po, wala. Wala po. Wala pong pagkakaiba.
[13:39] Huling tanong na lang po ito. Patungkol po ito kay ito po ang malinaw po sa batas ng Pilipinas na wala talaga dapat conflict of interest ang bawat opisyal ng gobyerno.
[14:00] Tama po ba?
[14:01] Tama po.
[14:02] Opo. Nalinaw po ba ng inyong witness na wala siyang conflict of interest si City Accountant Bahan? Tama po ba ako? Bahan?
[14:12] Yes, opo.
[14:13] Opo. Nalinaw po ba niya na wala siyang conflict of interest sa kanyang posisyon bilang administrator?
[14:20] Yes po. At pangalawa po dyan, hindi naman po si Ms. Bahan ang subject ng impeachment na ito.
[14:28] Okay. Opo.
[14:29] So palagay niyo po, nalinaw niya?
[14:31] Opo.
[14:34] Meron pong Supreme Court jurisprudence. Hindi po ako abogado. Ako po yung nagbabasa lang. Maaga po ako dyan. Nagbabasa ako.
[14:41] So, alhamdulillah.
[14:42] Yung pong Madera versus COA, ang sinasabi po doon na ang benefit salary without COA disallowance or bad faith protects respect from, protects recipient from liability.
[15:02] Tama po ba ito?
[15:02] Sa pagkakaalab ko po, yung Madera yan po, yung when you receive something in good faith po, you are protected from liability. Yes.
[15:13] Meron po bang natanggap na COA notice of disallowance ang ating BP patungkol po doon sa hinahanap na 64,194?
[15:23] Wala po. Kaya rin po naitanong natin kung nagkaroon ng COA findings ukol dyan at ang naging sagot po ay wala naman po.
[15:31] Okay po. Maraming salamat po.
[15:32] Maraming salamat po.
[15:33] Isa na lang po para po sa prosecution. Bakit po issue yung pagpunta sa China? Issue po ba niya yung pagpunta sa China?
[15:41] Kasi po, nakailang beses na po akong punta sa China. Yung isang beses, kasama ko po ang dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte, hindi ko po alam pa rin, matandaan kung saan kami nagpunta.
[15:55] Wala pong recall talaga sa akin kung saan.
[15:59] Ako din po yung nagpunta pangalawang beses, hindi ko din po ma-recall kung saan po ako nagpunta dahil hindi po talaga pumapasok sa isip ko pa.
[16:08] Na yung mga lugar sa China, siguro hindi po talaga familiar sa akin. At tinanong ko pa po yung staff ko kung saan ako nagpunta.
[16:18] Saan ba ako nagpunta sa China? Hindi ko po talaga matandaan. Totoo po yan.
[16:23] Problema po ba yun pagka hindi mo matandaan kung saan ka nagpunta sa China?
[16:27] Yung pagtatulong patungkol po sa China ay bahagi po ng pagkatetest ng kredibilidad po ng testigo.
[16:33] Wala naman nung usapin kung naging maagap yung po ng testigo na city assessor doon po sa pagsasagot po ng mga tanong patungkol po sa biyahe po sa China.
[16:42] Pero in very several instances, yung pong mismong mga honorable senator judges pa ho, yung nagbibigay ng dagdag impormasyon.
[16:51] Halimbawa, yung pong pagpuntang Beijing at pag-uwi mula sa Shanghai, doon lang po siya umamin doon sa mga particular pong detalyeng ito.
[16:58] Wala naman ho sana ng debate. Kung agad-agad, inamin ho mismo.
[17:03] So wala pong issue kari doon? Wala naman issue kapag nanggaling ka ng China?
[17:13] Yung pong pagpunta wala ho. Pero ang malaki usapin po...
[17:16] Yung nakalimutan?
[17:18] Hindi ho nagiging parang matapat sa harap po ng korting ito.
[17:21] Yun po yung opinion po ninyo.
[17:23] Hindi, yung pong posisyon po ng posikusyon.
[17:25] Hindi naging matapat?
[17:27] Yun po ang pagtingin po namin dahil yung unang hong tanong, hindi ho nila sinasagot ng diretsahan.
[17:33] Yung pong tanong ho doon sa pagbiyahe, papunta pong China, sa ilang pong mga pagkakataon.
[17:37] Pero kakasabi lang po ng ating tagapamahalang hukom na kailangan din po natin sigurong galangin yung mga sinasabi ng ating mga saksi kapag hindi po nila matandaan.
[17:48] At yun naman po talaga ay karapatan po nila.
[17:51] Marami salamat po sa inyo. Salamat po sa pagbibigay oras.
[17:54] Marami salamat po, hindi mo ang tagapang.
[17:56] Thank you, Senator Judge Padilla.
[18:00] Attorney Mike, will you be the one to call your next witness and assign it to your handling lawyer?
[18:05] Yes, Your Honor. Just a quick manifestation.
[18:07] After evaluation of the defense team,
[18:11] we would like to manifest, Your Honor,
[18:13] that we will already dispense with this witness from BPI,
[18:17] specifically Attorney Paul Roderick Ismail.
[18:19] The reason being that the only purpose for this witness was to authenticate my letter, Your Honor,
[18:24] and I believe the record should bear that during interpellation I was already asked about the letter
[18:29] and I have admitted in open court that I wrote that letter.
[18:33] So I think it would be in the interest of time that we just dispense with this witness
[18:37] since it is only for the purpose of authentication.
[18:39] That letter of mine has already been marked as well
[18:42] as exhibit for the defense, D-2-190-BPI, Your Honor, just for the record.
[18:48] The Chair confirms indeed that there was testimony made by Attorney Mike
[18:54] regarding the letter sent to the banks
[18:57] and that that letter has been marked as an exhibit for the respondent.
[19:04] Your Honor.
[19:05] Your Honor.
[19:05] Yes, Attorney, Honorable Redon, apologies.
[19:08] Before dispensing with the witness,
[19:10] our handling private prosecutor for the BPI would have wanted to make a manifestation.
[19:16] Yes, who would that be?
[19:18] Attorney Ali.
[19:22] What is your manifestation, counsel?
[19:24] Good morning, Your Honor, James Bryan Ibrahim Ali for the prosecution.
[19:29] As I understand that the witness is going to be dispensed with Your Honor,
[19:32] however, the subpoena produced several documents
[19:35] and in accordance with the resolution of the Honorable Court on October 6, 2026,
[19:42] documents produced by virtue of subpoena,
[19:45] the providence of these documents need not be questioned
[19:50] unless any issue on authentication shall be raised during cross-examination.
[19:55] What I'm trying to say, Your Honor, is that because these were subpoenaed,
[19:58] these were already part of the records
[20:00] and to be considered by the Honorable Court.
[20:03] Now this becomes an issue for us now, Your Honor,
[20:06] because there would be some questions that we want to ask
[20:09] on the basis of those records.
[20:11] If not allowed, given that we respect the dispensing of the witness,
[20:16] perhaps we can make a manifestation highlighting certain portions, Your Honor,
[20:21] given that these already are part of the records, Your Honor.
[20:24] Your Honor, if I may be heard.
[20:25] I don't get what you want to do, Attorney Ali,
[20:28] because at the end of the day, you have made your formal offer and have rested,
[20:35] and we do not know as of yet if the counsel for respondent will even include this
[20:42] in their offer for the court's consideration,
[20:45] outside of the fact that this has not been formally identified by any witness
[20:50] that has been presented before the court.
[20:53] So exactly what are you asking for, Attorney Ali?
[20:56] We just wanted to highlight certain portions, Your Honor,
[20:59] particularly, say, for example, one letter coming from the BPI
[21:03] where it confirmed that the vice president had dollar accounts.
[21:07] This was not within our visibility because the subpoena issued previously
[21:12] did not include dollar accounts,
[21:16] and that was precisely one of the points, if allowed,
[21:20] would have been part of our cross-examination, Your Honor.
[21:23] But that would have been only my manifestation, if allowed, Your Honor.
[21:27] At the proper time, Attorney Ali,
[21:29] you can make a tender, if at all, of excluded or not included evidence,
[21:36] and this may be the proper subject matter, too,
[21:38] of any memoranda you will submit or closing remarks of the counsel.
[21:42] Whoever will make those closing remarks at the end of the presentation of evidence for both sides.
[21:48] And finally, this can be the proper subject matter, too,
[21:52] of any rebuttal evidence you may wish to present
[21:56] after the respondent shall have rested, should you decide to do so.
[22:01] But I'm afraid I cannot allow that at this point
[22:04] because you will be substituting your interpretation of documents
[22:10] that have not yet been presented before this court.
[22:12] Finally, the court would not want to interfere nor dictate
[22:17] on the respondent's decision with respect to which witnesses to present
[22:21] and that will be made part of their evidence-in-chief.
[22:27] We understand, Your Honor.
[22:28] So you will have your opportunity, Attorney Ali, and the prosecution.
[22:30] And you will make that determination at the proper time.
[22:32] Thank you, Your Honor.
[22:32] Thank you, Attorney Ali.
[22:33] Thank you, Your Honor.
[22:35] Yes, so we proceed with Mr.
[22:38] with Attorney Antero.
[22:43] Yes, Your Honor, Attorney Anel Antero, which will be,
[22:45] now I'll have to turn over to Attorney Lyndon Bacuel,
[22:48] who will be conducting the direct examination of this witness, Your Honor.
[22:51] Kindly call and situate to the witness stand,
[22:54] Attorney Anel Martin Antero,
[22:57] the clerk through the OSAI, so directed,
[23:00] and the chair recognizes Attorney Lyndon on the part of the respondent
[23:07] on the part of the prosecution.
[23:08] Honorable Redon?
[23:09] It will be Attorney Ligutan, Your Honor.
[23:11] Attorney Ligutan is likewise recognized.
[23:25] Good morning, Attorney Ligutan.
[23:26] Long time no here.
[23:29] Yes, I wish I, but now see now.
[23:32] Anyways, good morning, Your Honors.
[23:34] Good morning.
[23:46] By the way, how do they call you, Attorney Ligutan?
[23:50] They call me Virgil, Your Honor.
[23:53] Virgil, okay.
[24:14] As soon as the witness is situated at the witness stand,
[24:19] the clerk is directed to kindly administer the oath.
[24:23] Sir, please raise your right hand.
[24:27] You, Anel Martin Antero, do swear that the evidence you shall give
[24:31] in the case now pending between the Philippines
[24:33] and Vice President Cyrus Jr. and Amanda Terté
[24:35] shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
[24:38] So I'll be God.
[24:39] Yes.
[24:43] Good morning.
[24:44] Paano po namin kayo tawagin, Anel or Martin, Attorney?
[24:47] Anel po, Your Honor.
[24:50] Attorney Anel, naunawaan niyo po ba yung inyong pinanumpaan
[24:53] kaugnay sa testimonyang ibibigay ninyo sa harap ng hukumang ito?
[24:58] Yes, Your Honor.
[25:00] Thank you very much, Attorney Anel.
[25:02] Offer, Attorney Ligutan.
[25:04] Yes, Your Honor.
[25:04] Good morning, Your Honor.
[25:05] Good morning.
[25:07] May we request the tech to flash the offer of testimony.
[25:10] The testimony of Anel Martin Antero is offered to prove that he was in Japan on May 19, 2023,
[25:23] together with Attorney Manassas R. Carpio,
[25:27] to prove the circumstances surrounding Naginza, Inakaya, Tokyo, Japan, credit card charge amounting
[25:33] to 205,007 pesos and 29 centavos,
[25:38] to disprove the material allegations under Article 2 of the Articles of Impeachment
[25:43] and other matters related to the foregoing.
[25:47] Comment, Attorney Virgil?
[25:49] Subject across, Your Honor.
[25:51] Attorney Ligutan, you may proceed with your direct examination.
[25:55] Thank you, Your Honor.
[25:57] Good morning, sir.
[25:58] Good morning, sir.
[26:00] Please state your name and personal circumstances for the record.
[26:02] Anel Martin Antero, po.
[26:06] Why are you here today, sir?
[26:08] I'm here on the strength of a subpoena, which I received, I think, last Tuesday.
[26:16] What is the subject matter of the subpoena, sir?
[26:20] I remember the subpoena subject matter to be the transactions pertaining to the purchase in Nike
[26:27] and other transactions pertaining to the credit card of the respondent.
[26:33] What do you know about the credit card purchases of Manasseh's RKRPO?
[26:42] Well, insofar as relevant to these proceedings, I am aware of the dinner that took place in Ginza, Tokyo, sir.
[26:53] How do you know about this dinner, sir?
[26:55] I was present in that dinner, sir.
[26:58] Nasaan po ba kayo noon, mga panahon na yun?
[27:01] Nasa Tokyo, Japan po.
[27:03] Bakit po kayo nasa Japan?
[27:06] Nandoon po kami para magbakasyon, mamasyal ng konti, kasama po yung mga kaibigan, mga barkada po namin.
[27:13] Sino ang mga kasama niyo, sir?
[27:15] Mga law school friends po namin at yung ilan po yung mga kaibigan po namin na mga masons po.
[27:23] Ilan po kayong lahat na nandoon sa Japan noon, sir?
[27:27] Lahat po kaming nag-travel, 11 po kami.
[27:30] 11.
[27:30] Ano po yung ginawa niyo sa Japan noong mga panahon na yun?
[27:35] Namasyal po, kumain, kain at may konting shopping-shopping din po.
[27:41] Alin sa mga ginawa niyo sa Japan, sir? Yung may kinalaman sa credit card purchases na sinasabi mo kanina.
[27:49] Ang pagkakain din din po yung dinner po sa Ginza, sa Tokyo.
[27:53] Saang restaurant po kayo kumain kung naalala niyo po?
[27:57] Inakaya Ginza, sir.
[28:00] Ano pong ginawa niyo sa Inakaya Ginza?
[28:04] Doon po kami nag-dinner after po a long trip na masyal po kasi kami noong araw po na yun.
[28:10] Gaano po kayo katagal doon sa Inakaya Ginza?
[28:13] I would say may mga 2 hours po dahil may katagalan din po yung serving time ng pagkain, mga ganyan po siguro.
[28:21] And it's the same group, sir? Yung 11 na sinasabi mo, yung kasama mo?
[28:24] Magkakasama po kami, yes po.
[28:26] It's the same group, yung 11 din po ba?
[28:28] Yes, sir.
[28:32] Pagkatapos niyong kumain, sir, magkano po yung naging bill niyo sa nasabing restaurant?
[28:38] Sa pagkakaalala ko po, mahigit 200,000 pesos po.
[28:42] Paano niyo po alam kung magkano yung bill, sir?
[28:47] Natatandaan ko po quite vividly yung bill namin kasi sa totoo lang na nagulat po ako, kami in general,
[28:54] dahil hindi po namin akalaing ganun po kamahal yung babayaran po namin.
[28:59] Ah, okay. Sino yung nagbayad ng bill niyo, sir?
[29:03] Kampi po ang nagbayad. Nagambag-ambag po kami. It's just so happen na yung credit card po ni Atty. Manz yung nagamit po sa pagbayad.
[29:11] Bakit po yung credit card ni Atty. Manasas Carpio yung ginamit para pagbayad dun sa bill sa restaurant?
[29:18] Noong time po kasi na yun, galing na nga po kami sa isang mahabang pasyal, meron po mga iba kaming mga kasama na wala na rin pong cash.
[29:29] So nag-agree na lang po kami na maggamit na lang ng credit card. At ang napagkasunduan, gamitin na lang po yung credit card ni Atty. Manz.
[29:36] With the expectation of repayment?
[29:38] Yes po.
[29:39] Magkano po, kayo po, personally, magkano po yung binayad niyo kay, yung naging contribution niyo, kumbaga?
[29:47] I remember...
[29:47] Yung binayad niyo kay Atty. Manasas Carpio.
[29:51] Naalala ko po ang naging share ko po nun, nasa apat na lapad, so that's 40,000 yen po.
[29:58] Sino pa po yung mga ibang nagbayad? May naalala pa po ba kayo na may ibang nagbayad sa kanya?
[30:03] Patungkol na rin po dun sa...
[30:04] Injection, that's leading, Your Honor, leading.
[30:07] Sino po yung mga ibang nagbayad pa?
[30:09] Leading.
[30:09] We'll allow it, Atty. Virgil, simply because we'll consider it preliminary to simply establishing a simple point with respect to the restaurants brought up by Atty. Cabrera.
[30:26] Mr. Bith, Your Honor.
[30:27] Subject to your cross later on, Atty. Virgil.
[30:30] Yes, Your Honor.
[30:32] Sino po yung mga ibang nagbayad pa? Kung alam mo, sir.
[30:34] Sa pagkakaalam ko po, lahat naman po kami nag-contribute. Dali naman po yung arrangement namin po nung nag-travel po kami.
[30:42] No further questions, sir.
[30:43] Cross, Atty. Virgil.
[30:47] Yes, Your Honor, Atty. Antero, good morning.
[30:55] Atty. Antero, do you own a Facebook account?
[31:03] Yes, sir. I happen to own a Facebook account.
[31:05] Okay, so at this juncture, Your Honor, I was informed because of the surprisingly brief direct examination, the tech booth is still in the process of preparing the documents that we'll be showing to this Honorable Court.
[31:26] Your Honor, please.
[31:31] You intend to show a Facebook post?
[31:32] Yes, Your Honor.
[31:33] But we can ask the question subject to the showing of the same.
[31:39] Can I continue, Your Honor?
[31:40] You may continue with another.
[31:42] Yes.
[31:43] Before the flashing of the document, may we know the relevance of the Facebook account?
[31:49] Okay, so at this early stage of the cross-examination, Your Honor.
[31:53] Attorney Virgil, will you please comment on the query of Attorney Virgil?
[31:56] We cannot telegraph our punches, Your Honor.
[31:58] This is preliminary.
[31:59] We are testing the credibility of this witness, more particularly freedom from bias and interests, which is the hallmark, Your Honor, of any cross-examination, Your Honor, please.
[32:14] So I hope the defense would understand.
[32:18] We cannot telegraph our punches at this point, Your Honor, please.
[32:23] We are testing...
[32:24] I think I have an idea what you will...
[32:26] Yes, Your Honor, please.
[32:26] ...what you will show.
[32:27] I think Attorney Lyndon has an idea also roughly what you will show.
[32:30] May I continue, Your Honor?
[32:34] Yes, you may proceed.
[32:35] Yes, there you go.
[32:37] Attorney Antero, good morning, sir.
[32:39] Sir, do you happen to own a Facebook account?
[32:45] Yes, sir, I do.
[32:46] Now, I'm showing you a screenshot of a Facebook account in the name of a certain Anel Martin S. Antero.
[32:53] Tell us if this is familiar to you.
[32:57] That is familiar to me, sir.
[32:59] Why is that familiar to you, sir?
[33:00] I remember that to be the profile photo of my Facebook account.
[33:06] Of your Facebook posts.
[33:07] Now, I'm showing you a screenshot of an Instagram account in the name of, quote, Anel Lantero.
[33:16] Can we show the Facebook profile?
[33:22] Do you recognize the same, attorney Antero?
[33:27] Oh, sorry, Instagram account.
[33:29] Do you recognize the same?
[33:31] Yes, sir, I recognize the account.
[33:33] By the way, Mr. Witness, what is, again, your civil status?
[33:38] I am married, sir.
[33:39] What about your religious affiliation?
[33:42] I am an Iglesia Ni Cristo, sir.
[33:44] Ayan, see.
[33:44] Good morning.
[33:45] Mr. Witness, you have long been a friend of the Vice President, correct?
[33:51] A long-time friend, yes, sir.
[33:52] Yes, and her husband, attorney Manassi Scarpio, correct?
[33:58] Yes, yes, sir.
[33:59] Did you not go to San Bedalo?
[34:03] I was in San Bedalo for two years, sir.
[34:06] Two years, and you were classmates with attorney Manassi Scarpio, correct?
[34:10] We were not classmates, sir.
[34:12] All right.
[34:12] Now, you admitted that you have a Facebook account.
[34:16] I'm showing you now a Facebook post that one Anel Lantero posted on May 18, 2016.
[34:24] Do you recognize the same?
[34:30] Do you recognize the post, sir?
[34:32] Yes, sir, I recognize the post.
[34:33] In that Facebook post, you were with the Vice President, Aner Hasban, correct?
[34:40] As shown by the picture, sir.
[34:42] What was the occasion, if you can remember, sir?
[34:45] I remember that to be after the victory of President Duterte.
[34:53] After the victory of former President Rodrigo Roa Duterte.
[35:00] Now, again, on August 12, 2017, as shown in another Facebook post, sir, you appeared visiting
[35:07] Attorney Carpio in Davao City, correct?
[35:11] Yes, sir.
[35:13] In that picture, yes, sir.
[35:15] All right.
[35:15] And on September 20, 2017, you met Attorney Carpio and some people, persons, at the Shangri-La,
[35:26] the Fort Manila, correct?
[35:28] Yes, sir.
[35:30] I remember that picture, sir.
[35:31] And you also met the Vice President there, correct?
[35:35] I remember the Vice President to be there, yes, sir.
[35:39] And on February 25, 2019, you met the Vice President in Bulacan, correct?
[35:49] Is there a picture, sir?
[35:50] Yes, sir.
[35:50] Yes, sir.
[35:51] Yes, I remember that picture, sir.
[35:56] So, Mr. Witness, it's fair to say you just admitted that you and the Vice President go a long way back, correct?
[36:06] Argumentative, Your Honor.
[36:07] Oh, is that?
[36:09] I'll allow it.
[36:10] Witness will please answer.
[36:12] You go a long way back with the Vice President.
[36:14] I met her way back in 2004, Your Honor.
[36:19] 2004.
[36:20] All right.
[36:20] So, same with Attorney Manasseh Scarpe.
[36:23] You go a long way back, correct?
[36:26] Yes, sir.
[36:26] I met him 1998 in law school, sir.
[36:29] And since 2022, the year the respondent won the Vice Presidency, you have been quite a fan of the Vice President, correct?
[36:44] We are friends.
[36:45] I support her, what she represents.
[36:48] Yes, sir.
[36:49] Yes, sir.
[36:50] Were you not an avid defender of the Vice President?
[36:58] Objection, Your Honor.
[36:59] Vague, Your Honor.
[37:00] Oh, avid defender.
[37:02] From being, having known, the question is, aren't you an avid defender of the White House?
[37:08] How is that being?
[37:11] He's a lawyer.
[37:11] You know what it means, Attorney Manasseh?
[37:18] Well, I can say that I am part of her legal team in so far as the cases that were filed against her.
[37:25] Thank you so much for that, sir.
[37:27] That can follow, sir.
[37:29] That can follow.
[37:31] Okay, now, do you remember that in October 2023, there was a publicized incident?
[37:41] A portion of the Commonwealth Avenue in Quezon City was closed.
[37:46] Do you remember this issue?
[37:49] I'm showing you an article by the Enquirer.
[37:52] Here, the Vice President had to deny her involvement in the closure of the Commonwealth Avenue.
[37:59] Do you remember this now?
[38:00] I remember that issue, sir.
[38:03] All right.
[38:04] Now, I'm showing you a Facebook post on October 5, 2023.
[38:10] Do you remember this?
[38:15] I cannot read it, sir.
[38:16] I'm not sure if I can recall that post, sir.
[38:19] The context of that is you...
[38:22] Your Honor, can the witness be shown a physical copy of the document?
[38:28] Much obliged.
[38:29] Your Honor, please.
[38:29] We will do that.
[38:31] Yes, but he already answered that...
[38:32] For any question is...
[38:36] Are you asking about whether or not he's familiar, Attorney Virgil, or do I want him to look at the contents?
[38:43] No, the familiarity of the post only.
[38:46] Just familiarity, not the contents, necessarily.
[38:50] Are you familiar with it, Attorney Anel?
[38:54] Well, if it's found in my Facebook account, sir, I can see it.
[38:57] But honestly, I don't recall this post.
[39:01] And I'm trying to read the context of the poster, but I'm having a difficult time.
[39:07] But you can see that if it is indeed found in your account, then most likely you did.
[39:13] Yes, yes, Your Honor.
[39:14] So you amplified the official statement of the Vice President denying that she was the reason for the closure.
[39:25] Objection, Your Honor.
[39:26] It's argumentative.
[39:27] What does amplified even mean?
[39:29] Yes, move on.
[39:30] Move on, counsel.
[39:31] Thank you so much.
[39:32] On the same day, Your Honor, please.
[39:33] Do you remember that in January 2024, there were rumors that Vice President would be resigning as Vice President
[39:44] and Secretary of the Department of Education?
[39:47] Do you remember this particular issue in January of 2024?
[39:52] I don't recall that issue, sir.
[39:55] But I'm showing you another post you made.
[40:03] Can we show the Facebook post, please, then?
[40:06] On January 25, 2024, you posted on your Facebook accounts a photograph of the Vice President with caption.
[40:20] We are for Vice President, VP Sarah.
[40:23] Do you remember that?
[40:24] Honestly, I don't recall sharing, but I would share certain posts that have photos of the Vice President.
[40:35] Of the Vice President.
[40:36] Your Honor, we are willing to stipulate that the witness is a supporter of the Vice President
[40:42] and that he has in fact testified that he's friends with the respondent and her spouse, Your Honor.
[40:49] Actually, I'll move on to our next point, Attorney Virgil.
[40:52] Thank you so much.
[40:53] Yes, Your Honor.
[40:54] We get the point.
[40:55] Thank you so much, Your Honor, please.
[40:57] In February 2026, Mr. Witness, this is now another topic.
[41:02] When new impeachment complaints were about to be filed against the Vice President, I have to repeat,
[41:13] February 2026, umuugong yung mga balibalita na may mga ipafile ulit ng mga impeachment complaints
[41:23] against Vice President Duterte, you referred to the impeachment complaint as, quote, flimsy, unquote.
[41:43] It's the same topic, Your Honor.
[41:46] It's different.
[41:47] Your Honor, please.
[41:49] Mababaw. Do you remember February 26 posting a Facebook post characterizing the impeachment
[41:59] complaint of the Vice President against your Vice President, our Vice President, as flimsy
[42:07] Mababaw. Remember that? Objection, Your Honor. It's the same
[42:13] topic, Your Honor. It's different. Your Honor, please, we
[42:15] are now touching upon the very heart of this controversy, impeachment complaint.
[42:20] Your Honor, it's irrelevant, Your Honor. Because the opinion of the witness as regards
[42:27] its political views is impertinent to the offer and the allegations in this impeachment case,
[42:35] Your Honor. Attorney Lyndon, I will have to overrule
[42:38] your objection. We'll allow it because I think it would be to the court's interest to find
[42:47] out these views expressed before and if he has already changed those views given the fact
[42:54] that he is appearing before this court today.
[42:56] Yes, Your Honor. Thank you so much.
[42:57] Attorney Virgil, you may proceed.
[42:58] Thank you so much. Flimsy and weak. Now, on September 6, 2026, after the regional trial
[43:07] court of Quezon City issued warrants of arrest against the Vice President, do you remember
[43:14] having made another Facebook post? Can we show it? The next one, please? I'm showing you now
[43:27] on the screen. You said, I quote, you can put her in handcuffs if that gives you a tiny moment to enjoy
[43:42] your sick sense of gratification. But you cannot restrain what she represents or the millions who refuse to be silenced.
[43:56] Next question. Attorney Antero, confirm. You were saying in this Facebook post that the court that issued the warrant of arrests wanted,
[44:13] I quote, a tiny moment to enjoy its sick sense of gratification.
[44:24] Objection, Your Honor. What is the objection?
[44:26] What is the objection, counsel? It's misleading and argumentative, Your Honor. The post would speak for itself, Your Honor.
[44:32] It's not misleading. Well, I distinctly heard you say, Attorney Virgil, the court. Yes. I'm asking those witnesses if that's what he meant.
[44:43] Therefore, it's misleading. Yes, but that's a question. There is no mention of reference to the court here in his post.
[44:50] So, I will have to sustain objection. It is misleading. Attorney Virgil, kindly reform. Okay. Now, Mr. Witness,
[45:00] Attorney Antero, confirm. You cannot see yourself in one form or another ever accepting a possible conviction,
[45:21] ruling, being handed by this impeachment court against the Vice President.
[45:30] Objection, Your Honor. Vague and speculative, Your Honor.
[45:32] Your Honor, testing the credibility. That's the point. This has nothing to do with credibility, Your Honor.
[45:36] Kindly reform, Attorney Virgil. Your Honor, I will not belabor the point, Your Honor, please. I will not belabor the point. I'll move on.
[45:44] Is he withdrawing the question, Your Honor? May we inquire from counsel?
[45:48] He's moving on, counsel. Thank you. That's a term. Now, do you also confirm that you have a close relationship with Attorney Carpio?
[45:59] Ask and answer, Your Honor. Close relationship this time. Not merely acquaintance. Close relationship. These are two different things.
[46:07] We'll allow it. Witness will please answer. Attorney Manel. Yes.
[46:12] And you treat Attorney Manassez Carpio like a brother, correct? Yes, sir.
[46:17] Now, Mr. Witness, did you ever receive money from Attorney Manassez Carpio?
[46:23] I am part of his firm, sir. Yes, sir. From time to time, I receive some compensation from my professional services, sir.
[46:36] Do you remember receiving half a million pesos, 580 million pesos? Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. It's 580,000 pesos from Attorney Carpio in July 2020.
[46:56] Honestly, I don't recall, sir. Honestly, I don't recall, but...
[47:02] To help you recall, sir, I'm showing you page 12A of AMLC cover transactions reports, okay, as exhibit P, Roman numeral 2, 7, 12, AMLC, 580,000 pesos was given to you.
[47:25] Do you now recall that? Again, what's the date, sir?
[47:30] Did you lie, 2020, sir? You don't recall? I still don't recall, sir.
[47:37] All right. Now, let's talk about this impeachment trial now. Mr. Witness, do you confirm that you have been attending the hearings of this trial?
[47:49] Relevant, Your Honor? It is very much relevant, Your Honor.
[47:53] I don't see the point, Your Honor. Again, we cannot telegraph our punches.
[47:57] We'll allow it. We'll allow it, counsel. Objection is overruled.
[48:00] Did you not attend the hearing on August 11th?
[48:06] I do not recall, but I have been appearing in the proceedings.
[48:10] Attending?
[48:11] Attending, rather, in the proceedings of this case.
[48:13] All right. August 12, 17, 24, 25, 26, September 14, 16, and October 1. You don't recall?
[48:23] I believe the records would show my attendance, sir.
[48:27] Yes, sir.
[48:28] Okay. And when you were not attending the hearings...
[48:30] Your Honor, sorry, before the prosecution proceeds with the question, may we ask that the document being flashed on the screen be taken down, unless it's relevant to the line of questioning, Your Honor.
[48:43] Yes, you can take it down already. This is the unlock document.
[48:46] All right.
[48:47] That would please comply. Now, while you were not attending the hearings, you were still watching, correct?
[48:56] Objection, Your Honor. No basis, Your Honor.
[48:59] Will the prosecution admit that they have access to the records of the attendance before this court?
[49:04] He's asking a leading question, counsel, on cross, if he's watching the hearings, even if he's not attending.
[49:10] Yeah.
[49:11] Your Honor, just before this point is pursued by the prosecution, may we know how the prosecution obtained the copy of the attendance records of...
[49:24] Attorney? Attorney? What's the issue?
[49:27] What's the issue?
[49:29] I assure you, the court, I assure it did not come from the court. Someone probably saw him, or I have no idea actually, but I'm not about to probe into where or how a counsel got their information with respect to the court.
[49:42] With respect to their direct or cross-examination.
[49:46] We submit, Your Honor.
[49:47] Thank you so much.
[49:48] Attorney Anel, you may please answer. If you monitor the impeachment, even if you're not here, whether often or at times?
[49:56] Very seldom, Your Honor. Okay. That's his answer, counsel.
[50:02] Yes, thank you so much. Mr. Witness, you constantly travel abroad, correct?
[50:06] I would say at least once a year since the pandemic, sir.
[50:15] On June 28, 2017, you visited Australia, correct?
[50:20] Yes, I remember that, sir.
[50:23] On October 14, 2017, you went to Bondi Beach in Sydney, correct?
[50:29] Your Honor, maybe ask the relevance.
[50:31] There is relevance, Your Honor, please. There is relevance to this question.
[50:34] Move forward, Attorney Virgil. Go to your point.
[50:38] Yes. So you are well-traveled, correct?
[50:41] I travel occasionally, sir.
[50:44] Occasionally. And in these travels, surely, surely, sir, you are a well-traveled individual.
[50:51] You brought with you credit cards for your expenses, correct?
[51:01] I would think yes, sir.
[51:02] You would think yes.
[51:03] Because you know how much you will approximate, how much you will have to spend for traveling for a certain period within a country, a different country, correct?
[51:16] That's a reasonable statement, sir.
[51:19] That's a reasonable statement, of course.
[51:21] You also brought cash in case credit cards will not work, and this cash are in foreign currency, depending on the nation or the foreign land you'll be traveling to, correct?
[51:37] Yes, sir.
[51:38] Okay, so you brought with you cash in foreign currencies.
[51:43] Now, let's go now to the meat of your testimony.
[51:48] Now, canina, sabi niyo po, when you discover the amount that you are supposed to pay, 200,000 pesos for a single meal, naalala po, you said, ikaw mismo ay nagulat.
[52:08] Mr. Witness, yung tanong, ano po yung nakakagulat in spending 200,000 pesos for a single meal?
[52:24] Nagulat po ako, personally, dahil hindi naman po namin hini-expect na ganun po kamahal yung babayaran po namin.
[52:34] Okay. If you remember, just so we will have an idea, how do we spend 200,000 pesos sa isang upuan, what did you order?
[52:48] To my recollection po, generally, mga Japanese food po, may tempura, may mga seafood po.
[52:54] Okay, seafood tempura. Now, Mr. Witness, now you are saying that hindi lang kayo ni Atty. Manasi Scarpio yung kumain doon.
[53:09] Sinasabi mo that there were 11 of you. You remember having said that?
[53:16] Yes, sir.
[53:18] Na ano ba yung mga occupations kung meron man, or negosyo kung meron man, ng remaining nine individuals who partook of a 200,000 peso meal?
[53:33] Yung iba po namin mga kasama, mga lawyers po. Lawyers.
[53:39] Law school friends po namin. Tapos yung iba po, mga negosyante po.
[53:43] All right. Now, sinasabi niyo po na 11 kayo. Mr. Witness, eto yung tanong nao.
[53:56] Aside po from the words coming from your mouth, na hindi lang kayong dalawa ni Atty. Manasi Scarpio yung gumasto ng 200,000 pesos for a meal.
[54:12] Aside po from words coming from your mouth, kayo po ba ay makakapagpakita ng isang photograph confirming that there were 11 of you?
[54:27] Or, for that matter, Mr. Witness, na ikaw ay kasama sa meal na iyan?
[54:34] Wala po akong dalang photograph sa kaya, sir.
[54:38] Walang photograph. In this age na practically po, lahat ay kinukunan ng photograph, yung kinakain, saan nagpupunta-punta, sinasabi niyo po sa harap ng hukuman na hindi lang si Atty. Manasi Scarpio yung kumain ng 200,000 pesos.
[54:58] 11 po kayo. Pero po, wala pong corroborative documents na makakapagpatunay na kasama ka nga sa naging 200,000 meal na iyan.
[55:16] Again, wala po akong dalang photograph, sir.
[55:20] Now, according to you, ikaw din ay nagdadala ng credit cards at cash in foreign currency.
[55:28] Ito yung tanong now. Sinasabi mo, well-traveled, handa ka with cash, credit card. Pero yung meal na iyan, 200,000. Sinasabi niyo po ba? All of a sudden, wala kayong dalang cash or credit card?
[55:51] Meron po akong dalang credit card po ng time po na iyan.
[55:57] Okay. What about cash?
[55:59] Meron po akong dalang cash.
[56:01] About yung mga kasama mo. Kung totoo po, Atty. Antero, na hindi lang po nakasama ka sa meal na iyan, kung totoo po na 11 kayong kumain, yung mga kasamahan niyo may daladala ding cash at credit card, correct?
[56:17] Hindi ko po masasagot ng tanong. Basta ako po, alam ko pong, midala po akong cash po noon. I remember po na yung iba pong kasama namin kulang na po yung cash para dun sa share po namin for the bill.
[56:31] Now, and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, magically, 11 kayo, si Atty. Manasius Carpio, yung kukuha ng credit card, siya yung magbabayad. Hindi ko ba?
[56:52] I don't see anything magical about that, sir.
[56:56] 11 of you, 11 of you, isa lang yung nagbayad using his credit card.
[57:04] Ang totoo po niya, marami pong nag-volunteer na yung credit card nilang gamitin.
[57:09] It's just so happy na siya 30 months po yung...
[57:11] Now, sinasabi niyo now, maraming nag-volunteer, pero during direct examination, eto yung tanong na we have record.
[57:19] Did you mention that, na ang daming nag-volunteer to pay?
[57:24] Nasabi niyo po ba during direct iyan? Yes or no?
[57:27] Hindi ko po naalala.
[57:29] Hindi po niyo naalala, of course, kasi hindi niyo po sinabi kanina na nag-volunteer.
[57:33] Diba? Now, sinasabi niyo now, eh ano, eh kami naman ay nag-reimburse kay Atty. Carpio.
[57:48] Di po ba?
[57:49] Yes, sir.
[57:50] And, you know, we in the prosecution was waiting for any proof, sir, that aside po sa mga salita coming from your mouth, na eh ano, kung 200,000, eh nag-reimburse naman kami.
[58:12] Tanong, aside po from the words...
[58:14] Makapusutuloy po ang ating live streaming. Samatala, susunod agad sa GTV ang Balitang Hal.
[58:23] Isang online transfer, isang acknowledgement from Atty. Carpio, natanggap niya na yung reimbursement. Do you have that document, sir?
[58:38] Wala po.
[58:39] Wala po. Okay.
[58:43] Mr. Witness, and there is, this is relevant, how much is the minimum wage in Metro Manila, if you know?
[58:53] Relevant, Sir Honor.
[58:54] This is very much, Your Honor, please.
[58:56] It's irrelevant, Your Honor.
[58:57] We really don't want to telegraph our punches.
[59:00] The issue in this case is whether 200,000 pesos is an ostentatious...
[59:07] It's not part of the offer, Your Honor.
[59:12] Whether this is...
[59:13] Allow Attorney Virgil to finish, counsel.
[59:16] Whether the Vice President and her spouse is leading a modest life.
[59:22] This is central to the allegation of unexplained wealth, Your Honor, please.
[59:27] Nasa batas po sa Constitution, yung isang official kasama na po yung pamilya na, dapat po mamuhay ng simple.
[59:37] Nakasulad po sa Constitution, an official and their family should lead a modest life.
[59:45] This goes into the heart of the controversy.
[59:49] So how is that not relevant?
[59:52] May I proceed, Your Honor?
[59:53] Attorney Lyndon, what say you?
[59:57] It is irrelevant, Your Honor, because neither the witness nor attorney Manassas Scarpo is the one on trial in this case, Your Honor.
[1:00:06] And the offer of the testimony of the witness is just to address specifically the allegations regarding the said credit card charges, Your Honor.
[1:00:17] And the point which the prosecution has been trying to pursue is a stretch, Your Honor.
[1:00:24] No, it's not a stretch.
[1:00:25] Your piece, if I may...
[1:00:27] You know, this is a misconception that Attorney Carpio being the spouse of the vice president, that he is immune from the requirements of leading a modest life, Your Honor, please.
[1:00:40] And this...
[1:00:40] We are about to go there, Your Honor, please.
[1:00:42] These are just preliminary questions to the point that we are making.
[1:00:46] And this point, in fact, Your Honor, please, are based on law.
[1:00:48] An official and their families, including a legally married spouse, they are bound by the requirements of the law to lead a modest life.
[1:01:00] We are about to go there, Your Honor, please.
[1:01:02] So as to the question, yung tanong po, kung yung asawa ng vice president ay kayang kumain 200,000 sa isang meal, sa isang kainan, sa isang upuan, yan po ba ay leading a modest life?
[1:01:21] And the only way we can consider that, Your Honor, please, is considering the factual milieu.
[1:01:27] Kaya po ba...
[1:01:28] Wait, wait.
[1:01:29] I'm not yet done.
[1:01:30] Kaya po ba ng ating mga kababayan na kumain sa isang upuan gagasto ng 200,000 pesos?
[1:01:42] Is that leading a modest life?
[1:01:45] Counsel, you are just...
[1:01:46] You asked me to explain.
[1:01:47] I'm just explaining.
[1:01:48] You are again complaining.
[1:01:49] This is not already explanation, Your Honor.
[1:01:51] This is grandstanding.
[1:01:53] Attorney London, kindly wind up, Attorney Ligutan.
[1:01:56] You are...
[1:01:57] I refuse to use the word perorating, but you're bordering on that.
[1:02:03] So kindly wind up with your response to Attorney London's query.
[1:02:06] And then thereafter, Attorney London.
[1:02:08] Your Honor, please, the issue is whether the vice president and her spouse is leading a modest life as required by the Constitution, Your Honor, please.
[1:02:19] And the only way we can do that, we can... the public will have a context is to lay the context, magkano po ba yung kayang igasto ng isang karaniwang empleyado or Filipino sa isang kainan?
[1:02:35] That's the main point, Your Honor, please.
[1:02:38] Attorney London.
[1:02:39] Your Honor, ang prosecution po nakapag-presenta ng evidence nila.
[1:02:43] Bakit po ngayon lang nila i-address itong issue na ito?
[1:02:48] Pangalawa po, the witnesses have rights under the rules of court, Your Honor.
[1:02:53] They have the right to be protected from impertinent questions outside of the limited offer of testimony, Your Honor.
[1:03:02] Your Honor, if I may, Your Honor.
[1:03:04] And third, Your Honor, I think this Honorable Court has already ruled that counsel should not be making conclusions of law and in fact misleading the public by making those statements, Your Honor.
[1:03:18] That's a good motion.
[1:03:19] I'm not mislead.
[1:03:21] Attorney Virgil, kindly let Attorney Lyndon finish.
[1:03:25] Motion to strike.
[1:03:26] They are currently...
[1:03:27] Kindly let Attorney Lyndon finish.
[1:03:29] The prosecution is currently way, way ahead in their pontification, Your Honor.
[1:03:33] Oh, this terms, Your Honor, please.
[1:03:34] Pontification, grandstanding.
[1:03:36] Why can't the defense get away with that, Your Honor?
[1:03:38] This is quite a simple presentation of evidence covering merely $205,000, which quite frankly is well within the sal end of the Vice President and or her spouse to spend.
[1:04:01] Only that, Attorney Cabrera, the forensic expert of the prosecution, highlighted this expense as one of his findings in his forensic report.
[1:04:16] But having said that, again, let the court emphasize, this is well within the sal end, if I remember correctly, $88 million of the Vice President, for Attorney Carpiot to spend.
[1:04:33] You have made your point, Attorney Virgil.
[1:04:36] Kindly, kindly, we understand and we get it, but kindly move to your next point already.
[1:04:43] Yes.
[1:04:44] Without belaboring the point further.
[1:04:45] Thank you so much.
[1:04:46] Your Honor, please.
[1:04:48] This is to address the point raised by the defense that Attorney Carpiot, being a private individual, is not covered by the requirements of the laws on accountability, Your Honor, please.
[1:05:04] Your Honor, I think the prosecution is still responding to the incident already.
[1:05:11] We already moved on, Your Honor.
[1:05:13] Yes, move on, move on, counsel.
[1:05:15] Again, we get the point, and that's the context by which the testimony and the witness is testifying.
[1:05:24] Can you move on, counsel?
[1:05:24] I can move on, Your Honor, please.
[1:05:26] If only the defense would agree with what is stated in the law that is not only the Vice President but also her spouse that is obligated by law to lead a modest life, as is stated in the Constitution, Your Honor.
[1:05:43] Your Honor, the court can make that conclusion, Your Honor.
[1:05:44] If that is, what conclusion?
[1:05:47] You have your answer, counsel.
[1:05:48] You have your answer, counsel.
[1:05:49] They will not.
[1:05:50] And besides, the witness is not being presented as an expert to testify as to whether or not that interpretation is correct or accurate.
[1:05:59] Subject to the appreciation of the senator judges, again, the point here is the 205,000, and let's not veer away from it.
[1:06:07] In that case, Your Honor, please, that would be all for cross-examination, Your Honor.
[1:06:12] Thank you, Attorney Virgil.
[1:06:14] Attorney Linda, any redirect?
[1:06:16] A few questions on redirect, Your Honor.
[1:06:17] You may proceed, counsel.
[1:06:19] I will just proceed straight to the point, sir.
[1:06:22] Magsisinungwaling po ba kayo para kay Manasis Archarpio?
[1:06:26] Objection, Your Honor.
[1:06:27] That's leading Your Honor, please.
[1:06:31] You are on redirect.
[1:06:32] That's not allowed.
[1:06:33] Counsel, to abbreviate the proceedings.
[1:06:35] I think that was the whole point earlier of your cross.
[1:06:39] Witness may explain himself.
[1:06:41] Witness may answer.
[1:06:42] Magsisinungwaling po ba kayo para kay Manasis Archarpio?
[1:06:46] I took an oath as a witness and as a lawyer, sir.
[1:06:49] Hindi po ako magsisinungwaling.
[1:06:50] Magsisinungwaling po ba kayo para kay Sara Z. Duterte?
[1:06:53] Hindi rin po.
[1:06:54] No further questions, Your Honor.
[1:06:55] And that does not disturb re-cross-examination, Your Honor, please.
[1:06:58] Move to strike, Your Honor.
[1:07:00] Oh, that's a manifestation.
[1:07:02] Move to strike, Your Honor.
[1:07:03] That's an improper manifestation.
[1:07:05] I will have to strike those remarks.
[1:07:08] Thank you, Your Honor.
[1:07:10] Suffice it to say that the prosecution manifested that they will not conduct a re-cross in regard to this witness.
[1:07:17] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:07:18] You know, Senator Judge Yesu.
[1:07:23] Yes, Senator Judge Amy.
[1:07:26] And happy birthday, by the way.
[1:07:30] This is your birthday interjection.
[1:07:32] Maraming salamat.
[1:07:33] Maraming salamat.
[1:07:34] My birthday interjection, presiding judge, and to our witness, attorney.
[1:07:38] You mentioned that you are a freemason.
[1:07:41] Kayo ba ni attorney Manz nasa parehong lodge?
[1:07:45] Uh, una po sa lahat.
[1:07:47] Happy birthday po, Mother and Senator.
[1:07:49] Maraming salamat.
[1:07:50] And good morning.
[1:07:51] Um...
[1:07:53] Paano ko ba sasagot?
[1:07:54] I am a...
[1:07:55] Masan ba kayo?
[1:07:56] A fellow craft mason ma'am.
[1:07:58] Ma'am.
[1:07:59] I think hindi pa po ako full-fledged mason.
[1:08:03] Ah, hindi pa kayo full-fledged.
[1:08:04] Pero kung sakali, magiging parehong lodge ba kayo?
[1:08:07] Magkaiba pong lodge po yun.
[1:08:09] Magkaibang lodge.
[1:08:10] Pero magkakilala kayo at the brother mason ang pakay mo.
[1:08:14] Magkakilala po kami since law school po, ma'am.
[1:08:17] Oo.
[1:08:18] Would you say that it's not out of the ordinary for members of the masons to hold fellowships and even travel together?
[1:08:25] Kasi madalas ko sila nagkikita na isang tropa pati sa Ilocos po.
[1:08:31] Yes po, ma'am.
[1:08:33] So in your assessment, it is possible.
[1:08:35] Um, part of the reason why, uh, attorney Mance willingly allowed his credit card to be used to cover the bill.
[1:08:44] Um, because he was among friends, even fellow mason brothers whom he trusted from a long, long time ago.
[1:08:51] Nung studyante pa kayo?
[1:08:53] I can, I agree with that, ma'am.
[1:08:56] Uh, isa po sa mga dahilan, if I may po, na siya po ang nagvolunteer din ng gamitin yung credit card niya.
[1:09:02] Ah, abul niya rin po kasi yung points sa credit card.
[1:09:06] Tama.
[1:09:07] Would you have done the same thing?
[1:09:09] Use your credit card to cover the bill of your, uh, um, all, all law school classmates and even fellow masons?
[1:09:17] Yes po, ma'am. Subject to reimbursement po.
[1:09:21] Ha, ha, ha, siyempre. Oo naman.
[1:09:23] So you would trust, in fact, your, uh, brother masons, your former classmates, your old, old friends to reimburse you fairly and honestly?
[1:09:33] And honestly, hindi po ba?
[1:09:36] Yes po, ma'am.
[1:09:37] Saka, hindi naman po ito yung first time na nag, uh, patak-patak po kami for, uh, for a bill.
[1:09:41] Tama, ambag-ambag parate. Pag, uh, malaki lalo ang bill, ano?
[1:09:45] Yes po, ma'am.
[1:09:46] Talagang, uh, gawain ng barkada yan, di ba?
[1:09:48] Yes po, ma'am.
[1:09:49] Um, was VP Sarah personally present nung dinner na yon?
[1:09:53] Wala po siya, ma'am.
[1:09:56] And to the best of your knowledge, was there any indication that, uh, VP Sarah was aware of the transaction involved?
[1:10:02] I wouldn't know, ma'am, but, uh, I wouldn't know.
[1:10:06] Okay, thank you very much. Uh, that will be all. Maraming salamat. Thank you, presiding judge.
[1:10:13] Thank you, Senator Judge Aimee. Happy birthday again. Um, there being no other, Senator Judge, who wish to make an interjection.
[1:10:23] Attorney, um, Anel, maraming salamat po sa inyong panahon, sa inyong pagtestigo at sa pagsagot sa katanungan na magkabilang partido at ng, uh, Senator Judge Aimee.
[1:10:33] You are excused, sir. Before we proceed, the Senate President, um, is recognized.
[1:10:41] The, uh, Clerk of Court is directed to call the roll.
[1:10:45] Welcome members.
[1:10:48] Senator Judge Aquino.
[1:10:50] Senator Judge Cayetano Alan.
[1:10:52] Senator Judge Cayetano Pia.
[1:10:54] Senator Judge De La Rosa.
[1:10:55] Senator Judge Ejercito.
[1:10:57] Senator Judge Estrada.
[1:11:00] Senator Judge Goh.
[1:11:01] Senator Judge Ontiveros.
[1:11:03] Senator Judge Lacson.
[1:11:05] Senator Judge Lapid.
[1:11:06] Senator Judge Legarda.
[1:11:08] Senator Judge Marcoleta.
[1:11:09] Senator Judge Marcos.
[1:11:11] Senator Judge Padilla.
[1:11:13] Senator Judge Pangilinan.
[1:11:14] Senator Judge Soto III.
[1:11:16] 3rd, Senator Judge Tulfo Irwin, Senator Judge Tulfo Rafi, Senator Judge Villanueva,
[1:11:22] Senator Judge Villar Camille, Senator Judge Villar Marc, Senator Judge Zubiri, the presiding
[1:11:29] officer, Senator Judge Escudero, the Senate President, Senator Judge Gachalian.
[1:11:33] With 18 Senate Judges present, the Chair declares presence of the quorum.
[1:11:50] Attorney Lyndon, would you like to call your next witness? Will you be the one handling as well?
[1:11:54] Your Honor, for the next witness, may we request that Justin Nicole Villar be recognized, Your Honor.
[1:12:01] Attorney Justin, call your next witness.
[1:12:05] Good morning, Your Honor. For the next witness, may we call to the witness stand, Mr. Chadrin S. Parian.
[1:12:16] Kindly situate Mr. Parian to the witness stand. Clerk is directed to administer those.
[1:12:26] Honorable Redon, who will handle the examination of Mr. Parian?
[1:12:32] It will be Attorney Robles, sure.
[1:12:38] Sir, please raise your right hand. You, Chadrin Parian, do swear that the evidence you shall give
[1:12:46] in the case now pending between the Philippines and Vice President Cyrus Zimmerman Duterte
[1:12:50] shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you God.
[1:12:53] Thank you.
[1:13:01] Paano nyo po namin kayong gustong i-address? Parang komplikado yung Chad. Chadrin?
[1:13:08] Chad na lang po, sir.
[1:13:09] Chad? Better. Easier.
[1:13:12] Ginong Chad, naunawaan nyo po inyong pinanumpaan, kaugnay, sa pagbibigay nyo na inyong testimonya sa harap ng hukumang ito?
[1:13:22] Opo.
[1:13:23] Thank you very much. Offer, Attorney Justin.
[1:13:26] Yes, Your Honor. May we just request the deck to display the offer.
[1:13:30] Your Honor, we are offering the testimony of Mr. Chadrin S. Parian for the following purposes.
[1:13:37] Number one, to prove that he and Attorney Manassas R. Carpio are parents of children
[1:13:44] that are part of a children's basketball team named Elite Philippines.
[1:13:50] Number two, to prove the circumstances surrounding the Nike Pavilion, Kuala Lumpur,
[1:13:57] credit card charge amounting to 256,882 pesos and 50 centavos.
[1:14:06] Thank you, sir.
[1:14:06] And number three, to disprove the material allegations under Article 2 of the Articles of Impeachment
[1:14:13] to identify documents and other matters related to the foregoing.
[1:14:18] Your Honor.
[1:14:20] Attorney Ray?
[1:14:21] Good morning, Your Honor.
[1:14:22] Good morning.
[1:14:23] Good morning, Attorney Gilar.
[1:14:23] Good morning, Attorney Ray.
[1:14:24] Subject approach, Your Honor.
[1:14:25] Thank you. Noted.
[1:14:26] You may proceed with your direct examination, Attorney Justin.
[1:14:30] Thank you, Your Honor.
[1:14:31] Proceeding po.
[1:14:33] Sir Chad, magandang umaga po.
[1:14:35] For the record, can you please state your name, age, and address?
[1:14:38] Ako po si Chadrin Parian, 45 years old, taga Las Pinas City.
[1:14:44] Okay.
[1:14:45] Sir, ano po yung nalalaman niyo tungkol sa impeachment case na to kung mayroon man, sir?
[1:14:51] Ito po ay impeachment ni VP Sara Duterte.
[1:14:56] Okay. At paano niyo po nalaman na ito ang impeachment case?
[1:15:00] How do you know about this impeachment case?
[1:15:02] Through social media, through the news.
[1:15:05] Sir, diretsyohin ko na po.
[1:15:06] Bakit po kayo nagtetestigo sa kasong ito?
[1:15:10] I receive a subpina po regarding the purchases of the Nike in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
[1:15:18] Sir, may I just request you to speak just a bit louder and closer to my opinion.
[1:15:22] It's okay. It's okay.
[1:15:23] Can you please repeat your answer to my question, sir?
[1:15:26] I receive a subpina to testify or be here with regards to the purchases of the Nike shoes in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
[1:15:36] You mentioned about purchases of Nike shoes in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
[1:15:42] What do you know about that purchase of Nike shoes kung mayroon man, sir?
[1:15:47] Kasama po ako doon sa pagpunta at pagpili ng mga sapatos na mga bata.
[1:15:57] May sinabi po kayong pagpunta. Saan po kayo pumunta, sir?
[1:16:00] Well, pumunta po kami sa Malaysia noon to compete.
[1:16:04] Yung mga kids po is may basketball tournament.
[1:16:07] At kailan po kayo pumunta sa Malaysia?
[1:16:09] I remember nag-flight po kami as June 11.
[1:16:15] And hanggang kailan po kayo o kailan po kayo bumalik sa Pilipinas kung naalala nyo po?
[1:16:19] Bumalik po kami ng Pilipinas June 16.
[1:16:23] Ano po yung pruweba nyo na lumipad po kayo sa Kuala Lumpur at na lumuwas kayo galing sa Pilipinas at bumalik kayo sa mga dates na sinabi nyo po?
[1:16:35] Well, nagbigay po ako ng copies ng tickets ko at saka yung egov.ph na arrival and departure po dito sa Pilipinas.
[1:16:46] Plus, meron po yung sa Malaysia, emigrasi.
[1:16:50] Saan po yan, sir? Sinabi nyo kasi na binigay nyo.
[1:16:54] I submitted the USB to the Secretariat po ba yan? I'm not familiar with the term.
[1:16:58] Your Honor, may we request that the USB provided by the witness be accessed and that the specific Malaysia immigration document and the e-travel be flashed.
[1:17:10] Unless, of course, the good counsel from the prosecution is willing to stipulate that the authenticity and due execution of the documents mentioned and referred to by our witness
[1:17:20] and to be able to dispense with the authentication and identification in court, if only.
[1:17:25] To agree with the proceedings, Your Honor, we are willing to stipulate.
[1:17:29] Thank you.
[1:17:30] Thank you.
[1:17:30] Proceed accordingly, Attorney Justin.
[1:17:32] Thank you. Sinabi nyo po na pumunta kayo sa Malaysia kasama yung basketball team. Bakit po kayo pumunta sa Malaysia kasama yung basketball team?
[1:17:44] Well, nagkaroon po ng invitation. I think I'm not yung coaches namin na mag-compete doon. Okay. And then, yun po, naglaro po sila ng basketball.
[1:17:57] Ano po yung nangyari sa... Ano po itong... Bakit po sila naglaro ng basketball sa Malaysia? Medyo confused po kasi ako eh.
[1:18:06] Ano po eh. It's the... Yung mga bata po is... They're not in the same school. They do not live in the same communities or cities.
[1:18:16] Parang po siyang selection ng mga bata na through tryouts, nagkasama-sama po kami.
[1:18:23] So, meron pong on the different backgrounds in life. Ganon po ang pagkakaano po. Yung po yung pagkakasama-sama namin.
[1:18:33] At ano naman po ang relasyon, sinabi nyo? At sino-sino po ang mga kasama nyo nung pumunta kayo sa Kuala Lumpur?
[1:18:40] Well, mga parents po, kasama po doon si Attorney Manassi Scarpio.
[1:18:43] At ano naman po ang relasyon ni Attorney Manassi Scarpio sa... Una po, ano pangalan ng basketball team na tinutukoy natin?
[1:18:50] Elite Philippines po. Pilipinas po yung nakaano sa GLC.
[1:18:53] At ano naman po ang relasyon ni Attorney Manassi Scarpio sa Elite Philippines Basketball Team?
[1:18:59] Parang po siyang co-parent and manager na rin po ng team namin.
[1:19:02] At ano po yung relasyon nyo sa basketball team na yan?
[1:19:05] Well, I treat him as attorney as a co-parent with our kids.
[1:19:11] So, how do you consider your relationship with Attorney Manassi Scarpio?
[1:19:15] Nung sa Malaysia po, attorney. In Malaysia.
[1:19:19] In relation to the basketball team po?
[1:19:20] Yeah, I treat him as a co-parent po. Eventually, naging kakaibigan na rin.
[1:19:26] Sinabi nyo kanina na pumunta kayo as a co-parent sa Malaysia ng isang children's basketball team.
[1:19:32] Ano po yung nangyari sa tournament na yun?
[1:19:34] Well, sa Kaputin Awa po ng Diyos, nag-champion yung mga bata.
[1:19:38] Nag-champion ang mga bata.
[1:19:40] At ulitin po natin, ano po yung composition ng basketball team na ito?
[1:19:44] Well, hindi po siya school or... It's more of a selection team.
[1:19:48] As premised by the question, it's already answered, Ron.
[1:19:51] Move on, attorney Justin.
[1:19:53] Okay. Pagkatapos po na nag-champion yung mga bata, ano po yung nangyari?
[1:19:57] Kung naalala nyo po.
[1:19:59] Well, natural po na after mag-champion, may celebration po.
[1:20:05] Siyempre, bibigyan mo ng doing for their doing a good job.
[1:20:09] So, ipapasyal namin yung mga bata kasi yung mga iba doon po sa amin, first time lang po bumiyahe.
[1:20:17] At saan nyo pinasyal yung mga bata at yung ibang sinabi nyo na first time lang nagbiyahe?
[1:20:22] I remember po, after the game, after the championship and awarding,
[1:20:26] on June 15, pagkatapos naman namin magkaaroon ng awarding,
[1:20:31] natapos yung awarding, pumunta po kami sa downtown Malaysia,
[1:20:35] parang near Kuala Lumpur, yung parang Chinatown street na maraming kainan.
[1:20:39] At pagkatapos kayong kumain, sir, ano po yung nangyari kung may roadman?
[1:20:45] Well, after po noon, may mga parents na bumili ng mga namasyal doon,
[1:20:50] tapos nagkayaan po pumunta ang mall, which is the Pavilion Mall po ba yun?
[1:20:55] At nung pumunta kayo sa Pavilion Mall, ano po yung nangyari?
[1:21:00] Ano yung nangyari kung naalala nyo?
[1:21:03] Siyempre po, namasyal yung mga bata, kami po sumusunod-sunod lang,
[1:21:06] tapos eventually po nagkayaan yung mga bata sa tumingin ng sapatos.
[1:21:11] Sinabi nyo po na mga bata, eventually, tumingin, ano, nakayayaan ng tumingin ng sapatos?
[1:21:18] Yes.
[1:21:18] Saan po ito, yung yayaan nyo ng pagtingin ng sapatos?
[1:21:22] Marami po silang pinuntahan na shops eh. May mga specialty stores po doon sa Pavilion.
[1:21:29] Then, natapos po doon sa Nike, doon po sila nagtagal.
[1:21:35] Puntahan po natin yung sinabi niyong Nike. Ano po yung nangyari sa Nike store na ito?
[1:21:39] Well, tumitingin-tingin lang po sila ng mga sapatos yung mga bata.
[1:21:45] And then, eventually, parang nakita ko sila na naging na-excite sila kasi parang narinig ko na pumili na sila ng sizes sila at saka gusto nilang sapatos.
[1:21:56] Okay. Pagkatapos nito, ano nangyari sa pagpipili ng mga sapatos? Kung naalala nyo po?
[1:22:02] Well, I personally saw the kids choose their own shoes.
[1:22:06] And after all the kids choose their own shoes, ano po yung nangyari kung naalala nyo?
[1:22:12] Yun po, tapos na po, final na po. Nakita ko po, binayaran na po.
[1:22:18] At sinabi niyo po na nakita na binayaran yung mga sapatos. Sino po yung nagbayad kung naalala nyo?
[1:22:25] Si Atty. Carpio po.
[1:22:27] Ano po yung ebendensya nyo dito kung mayroon man?
[1:22:30] I was near the counter when it happened, when he made the purchase.
[1:22:35] At ano po yung ginawa nyo nung nakita nyo yun?
[1:22:38] Natuwa po ako kaya kinunan ko yung photo.
[1:22:41] Okay. At daladala nyo po ba ang litrato na tinitulog nyo ngayon?
[1:22:46] It's also in the USB, sir.
[1:22:47] In the USB. Your Honor, may we just ask that this be flashed, Your Honor, that photo.
[1:22:54] Tech is instructed.
[1:23:08] Your Honor, apologies. I have just been informed that the flash drive is not with the tech.
[1:23:15] I gave one to the...
[1:23:17] But I have two copies here, sir. Sorry.
[1:23:19] Kindly give the flash drive to assisting counsel without prejudice to assisting counsel from the prosecution to observe and or assist as well.
[1:24:03] Okay. Ang nakikita po natin sa screen is isang lalaki at madaming sapatos.
[1:24:10] Paano yung pong...
[1:24:11] At may lalaking sa likod ng t-shirt niya isang agila.
[1:24:15] Paano...
[1:24:16] Sinabi nyo si Atty. Manases Carpio ang nagbayad.
[1:24:19] Sino po yung lalaki na nakikita sa picture na yan?
[1:24:22] Ah, si Atty po.
[1:24:23] Paano nyo alam na si...
[1:24:25] Sinong Atty po?
[1:24:26] Atty Carpio po.
[1:24:27] At paano nyo alam na si Atty Carpio yan?
[1:24:30] Ako po yung kumuha ng photo na yan.
[1:24:33] Okay.
[1:24:33] Now, kung alam nyo po, bakit po si Atty Carpio ang nagbayad?
[1:24:38] Kasi yan po yung sinabi nyo kanina eh.
[1:24:39] Well, siguro po nasihan siya sa pangyayari sa outcome ng tournament, nag-champion yung mga bata.
[1:24:48] And siguro it's time, it's your turn or take turns po sa mga expenses na mga bata.
[1:24:57] Sinabi nyo po na take turns. Bakit po ba? Ano pong ibig sabihin ng take turns sa expenses na mga bata?
[1:25:02] Ah, hindi naman po...
[1:25:05] Paano po? How do I say this?
[1:25:08] Ah, prior to our trip to Malaysia, meron naman po din nagbigay or tumulong ng mga parents na makapagbigay ng sapatos dun sa ibang mga bata.
[1:25:18] Sinabi nyo po na tumulong magbigay. Bakit po? Ano po ba ang ibig sabihin ng tumulong? Bakit po ba kailangan tumulong?
[1:25:25] Well, yung selection po kasi ng team, hindi naman po lahat is... How can I say this? May kakayanan bumiliin ng sapatos na papakumpit nila, gagamitin sa pagkumpit sa overseas.
[1:25:39] Okay. Yung next tanong ko, sinabi nyo po na pumunta kayo sa Malaysia, isang tournament po ito. Meron po kasing ibang mga abogado na ayaw maniwala sa salita lamang.
[1:25:50] Ano pong ibang pruweba nyo na pumunta talaga ang basketball team sa Kuala Lumpur kung mayroon man?
[1:25:56] Your Honor, for the sake of brevity, you're willing to admit that the team went to Malaysia.
[1:26:02] No, Your Honor, my intention is to flash the photo, just to disabuse some doubts, if any.
[1:26:08] Yes, Your Honor. That's why we are willing to admit the claim of counsel that the witness will be able to show those evidence, Your Honor.
[1:26:16] May we just request that the photo be flashed?
[1:26:20] We'll allow the photo to be flashed.
[1:26:22] And we have a question in relation to those photos.
[1:26:24] We'll allow the photo to be flashed. Kindly flash the photo.
[1:26:28] Which photo, by the way, do you want flashed, Attorney Justice?
[1:26:37] Ulitin ko po, anong photo po yung dala nyo na ebidensya na may tournament at kasamo po kayo ni Atty. Manasa Scarpio.
[1:26:46] Sa mga sinong tumitin nyo po?
[1:26:48] Yes po. Waitin po.
[1:26:51] Ano po yung hawak-hawak nyo, sir?
[1:26:52] I submitted with a flash drive also a photo na ito po.
[1:26:59] For the record, Your Honor, a printed copy of the photo is being shown to the co-counsel. May we just ask that this be given as a guide to the tech, Your Honor, so they know which particular photo will be flashed.
[1:27:11] Yes. Mr. Chad, can you describe the photo so that...
[1:27:14] Ayan, ano po ito?
[1:27:17] Yes po.
[1:27:18] Nasa Pilipinas mo ba kayo nito at nasa Kuala Lumpur na?
[1:27:21] Nasa Kuala Lumpur na po kami yan.
[1:27:22] At kung kaya nyo po...
[1:27:25] Sorry, may I proceed, Your Honor?
[1:27:27] You may proceed, Attorney Justin.
[1:27:29] Nakikita ko sa photos may mga mukhang nakablur po. Bakit po nakablur itong mga mukhang ito?
[1:27:37] Before producing the USB, I consulted my personal lawyer.
[1:27:44] Pinakita ko po sa kanya yung mga ibibigay ko dito sa Senate.
[1:27:50] I was advised to blur the photos of the kids because po minors po sila.
[1:27:57] And sa litratong yan po, saan po si Atty. Manasis Carpio kung nandyan po siya sa litratong yan?
[1:28:06] With my looking at it, it is in the top right portion.
[1:28:10] May we request the tech to please zoom the photo?
[1:28:17] Okay.
[1:28:18] And you mentioned that there is Atty. Manasis Carpio was the person at the top right.
[1:28:24] Okay. Sino itong tao na may suot na puti sa litratong ito? Kung kilala nyo po.
[1:28:32] Yung nakaputi po with the blues, Atty. Manasis Carpio.
[1:28:37] Again, kasi isang litrato lang ito. Baka ayaw pa rin maniwala.
[1:28:41] May iba po ba kayong litrato na nagpo-proweba na pumunta kayo sa...
[1:28:45] Your Honor, we are willing to stipulate that Mr. Atty. Manasis Carpio was there and the team was there.
[1:28:53] Your Honor, naniniwala na po kami.
[1:28:55] In that case, Your Honor, no further questions. Indire.
[1:28:59] Likewise, I think on the part of the court as well, I think that is pretty obvious.
[1:29:05] And it has been stipulated by counsel, therefore, no longer a matter in issue.
[1:29:09] May we just ask whether the counsel, considering na naniniwala na sila,
[1:29:14] that the witness can authenticate and identify the electronic documents contained in the USB, Your Honor,
[1:29:20] to abbreviate the proceedings. Otherwise, I'll be constrained to authenticate.
[1:29:23] Specifically, the pictures he took, Your Honor, and the documents pertaining to him, Your Honor.
[1:29:29] Can you give a copy of the set to Attorney Ray? Do you have a copy, Attorney Ray?
[1:29:38] I think Attorney Ray has a set of the documents that we will ask to be more.
[1:29:41] Do you peruse the same? I don't think there will be any problem, Attorney Ray.
[1:29:45] Yes, we just got it, Your Honor. But, yes, Your Honor, we just got it.
[1:29:51] And, well, apart from what appears to be brochures of something,
[1:29:58] we're willing to admit the pictures and the documents.
[1:30:01] Yes. Just to clarify, Attorney, and to be fully candid,
[1:30:04] the first document is actually an invitation. It's not a brochure.
[1:30:08] Yes.
[1:30:10] Okay.
[1:30:13] We'll just have this marked at the appropriate time, Your Honor.
[1:30:16] Yes.
[1:30:17] Attorney Ray, also the invitation?
[1:30:20] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:30:21] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:30:21] Okay.
[1:30:22] These will be marked as Exhibit D-2-1-Parian and Series, Your Honor.
[1:30:28] We'll do the proper marking at the appropriate time.
[1:30:30] So ordered at the appropriate time.
[1:30:32] Thank you, Your Honor.
[1:30:33] That is all for direct examination.
[1:30:34] Thank you.
[1:30:36] Attorney Ray, any cross?
[1:30:38] A few questions, Your Honor.
[1:30:39] You may proceed, sir.
[1:30:42] Mr. Parian, Chad.
[1:30:45] Yes, po. Good morning, po.
[1:30:47] Tanong ko lang po, kailang ho kayo unang nagkakilala ni Attorney Carpio?
[1:30:53] Same year lang din po ng tournament.
[1:30:55] Around siguro po.
[1:30:56] 2025?
[1:30:57] Tama po.
[1:30:58] 2025, around siguro po, March, I think po.
[1:31:02] At pagkatapos ng tournament na yun, magkakilala kayo,
[1:31:06] sabi mo kanina, nabanggit mo na naging magkaibigan na rin kayo.
[1:31:11] Tama po ba?
[1:31:13] Yun yung turing mo na sa kanya.
[1:31:15] Doon po sa, to say it, doon po sa Malaysia, hindi pa po.
[1:31:19] I treat him as a cooperative.
[1:31:20] No, ang tigatanong ko yung ngayon.
[1:31:22] Ngayon po, menso po, kasi nagsama na po na matagal yung mga bata.
[1:31:26] Oo, at saka ilang beses na kayong nasama sa tournament, di po ba?
[1:31:30] Opo, I could say that.
[1:31:31] Na kasama yung mga anak nyo.
[1:31:33] Correct po.
[1:31:33] Siguro mga anim or pitong beses.
[1:31:35] Tama po ba?
[1:31:36] At marami doon sa abroad yung tournament.
[1:31:44] Tama po ba?
[1:31:44] Yes po.
[1:31:45] Ilang beses kayo nag-abroad, nakasama yung team?
[1:31:50] Can I see the number or the...
[1:31:52] Apat o limang beses?
[1:31:53] Tama po.
[1:31:53] Ako po kasama four or five times po.
[1:31:59] Tama.
[1:32:01] Yung pong sa Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia,
[1:32:03] Yes po.
[1:32:04] Noong June 12, 2015,
[1:32:06] Yes po.
[1:32:06] Yung sa Ansa City, Korea, July 2025, one month after.
[1:32:16] Pagkatapos sa Singapore, October 22, or thereabouts, 2025.
[1:32:23] Yes, attorney.
[1:32:25] Nagbiyahe din po kayo sa Fukuoka, Japan, February 20, 2026.
[1:32:33] Yes po.
[1:32:33] Tapos, naglaro din kayo locally, tama po ba?
[1:32:38] Yes po.
[1:32:38] Sa Cebu.
[1:32:39] Tama po.
[1:32:40] Tama.
[1:32:41] July 5, 2026.
[1:32:44] Tama po.
[1:32:45] At dito rin locally sa South Mall.
[1:32:49] Yes.
[1:32:49] August 2026.
[1:32:51] Yes po.
[1:32:52] Kasama po, sumama po ba kayo noong September sa Shanghai, China?
[1:32:58] Hindi po kasama.
[1:32:58] Hindi kayo kasama doon.
[1:33:00] Dahil madalas kayo magkita at madalas kayo magkasama,
[1:33:04] eh, sabi mo nga,
[1:33:06] naging magkaibigan na rin kayo ni Attorney Capio.
[1:33:08] Tama po?
[1:33:10] I could say that po.
[1:33:10] So you are not exactly a disinterested third party in this case.
[1:33:15] Objection, Your Honor.
[1:33:17] I'm asking the witness, Your Honor.
[1:33:19] Objection, Your Honor.
[1:33:20] It's a technical term.
[1:33:21] How could the witness answer that?
[1:33:23] If he knows, if that's your objection,
[1:33:25] if he knows, kung alam niyo po yung sagot sa tanong at naunawaan niyo aginong chat,
[1:33:29] at kung hindi po,
[1:33:29] sabi niyo po si Attorney Capio.
[1:33:33] I could say so, sir.
[1:33:34] At kung makaari,
[1:33:35] kung pwede niyo siyang tulungan sa anumang paraan,
[1:33:37] tutulungan niyo siya, hindi po ba?
[1:33:39] Hindi naman po.
[1:33:40] I'm here to testify po doon sa Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
[1:33:44] Sige po.
[1:33:45] Anyway, I'll take that.
[1:33:46] I'll proceed to other points.
[1:33:53] Sino po ang kumausap sa inyo
[1:33:54] na kayo ang magtestigo dito sa bagay na ito?
[1:34:00] Well, na...
[1:34:03] Actually po, hindi ko po alam na masasabina ako.
[1:34:07] Mayroon, nagkaroon lang po kami ng usap-usapan sa grupo.
[1:34:10] Ngayon ay tungkol doon sa purchases sa Nike.
[1:34:14] Nag-volunteer po ba kayo?
[1:34:15] Hindi.
[1:34:15] Ang usap-usapan po is kung pwedeng tumulong or mag-testify.
[1:34:21] That's exactly what I was asking you earlier.
[1:34:23] Yes.
[1:34:23] So you are willing to help, Attorney Capio?
[1:34:26] Not help po.
[1:34:29] Just to testify on the purchase po.
[1:34:31] Darag yan, darag yan.
[1:34:32] Kaya nga.
[1:34:33] Kaya ka nag-testify kasi gusto mong tumulong.
[1:34:38] Maipaliwanag yung gusto mong ipaliwanag.
[1:34:39] Tama po ba?
[1:34:40] The event only po.
[1:34:42] Okay.
[1:34:44] Now, sabi niyo, sinubi na kayo.
[1:34:47] Wala po bang kumausap sa inyo sa parte ng defensa?
[1:34:51] Since kaibigan kayo ni Attorney Capio?
[1:34:54] Nang respondents?
[1:34:56] Wala naman po.
[1:34:57] Wala po?
[1:34:58] Sigurado po kayo?
[1:34:59] You're under oath, sir?
[1:35:01] Yes po.
[1:35:04] Ngayon, ano po ang kabuhay niyo, sir?
[1:35:09] Anong trabaho niyo ngayon?
[1:35:12] Ngayon po, may negosyo po ako.
[1:35:14] Negosyo po.
[1:35:15] Ano po yung pangalan ng negosyo niyo?
[1:35:18] I own MCDOS Plug and Play Internet Cafe.
[1:35:23] Ano po ang pangalan ng negosyo niyo?
[1:35:25] Yan po.
[1:35:26] Ano po ang registered name ng negosyo niyo?
[1:35:30] MCDOS Plug and Play Internet Cafe.
[1:35:33] So, MCDOS Plug and Play Internet Cafe.
[1:35:36] Yes po.
[1:35:37] Nagulat lang kasi ko, kahapon pinag-uusapan dito Jollibee eh.
[1:35:41] Yung negosyo ng MCDOS Internet Cafe.
[1:35:45] It stands for my pangalan po ng mga anak po.
[1:35:48] So, MCDOS Internet Cafe.
[1:35:51] Yun lang po ba ang negosyo niyo?
[1:35:53] May family business po kami.
[1:35:55] A shared family business.
[1:35:56] Si misis po, anong kabuhayan?
[1:35:59] Well, katulong ko po sa negosyo.
[1:36:02] At sabi niyo kanina, magkakaiba ang skwela ng mga anak niyo ni Atty. Carpio.
[1:36:09] Yes po.
[1:36:10] Anong skwela po pumapasok yung mga anak niyo?
[1:36:14] Your Honor.
[1:36:15] Your Honor.
[1:36:16] Show the relevance of it.
[1:36:17] Your Honor.
[1:36:18] Your Honor, apologies.
[1:36:20] May I call the attention of the presiding officer, with all your respect.
[1:36:23] Your Honor, the question, the witness is being asked about the school where his child is studying, Your Honor.
[1:36:31] I think to protect the privacy of the minors who are not involved in this impeachment case, we will have to object for reasons of security, Your Honor.
[1:36:39] Your Honor, there is no privacy issue about school.
[1:36:43] These are minors, Your Honor.
[1:36:45] It's the witness who mentioned...
[1:36:46] Suffice it to say, Suffice it to say, Attorney Ray, that I am familiar with this arrangement and team, actually.
[1:36:54] The children come from different schools.
[1:36:57] Yes, sure.
[1:36:57] They are recruited through their respective coaches and come from different schools.
[1:37:04] Yes.
[1:37:04] I think that information should be sufficient.
[1:37:06] We will move to another point, Your Honor.
[1:37:07] Move on, Attorney Ray.
[1:37:08] Thank you.
[1:37:08] Thank you, Your Honor.
[1:37:09] Huwag namang po nating salihin mga bata.
[1:37:10] Oh, Your Honor, hindi po namin sinasalihin ba?
[1:37:13] Tinatanong po lang yung skwela.
[1:37:15] Eh, hindi naman po yun yung bata.
[1:37:16] It's okay.
[1:37:17] Again, councils, we have settled the better.
[1:37:20] The fact is, move on.
[1:37:22] Your children are going to exclusive schools.
[1:37:24] Tama po ba?
[1:37:26] Objection, Your Honor.
[1:37:26] May we ask the relevance of this, Your Honor?
[1:37:29] Again, it still pertains to the children.
[1:37:32] This can still specify where the children are studying regardless without naming the schools.
[1:37:38] It is not only irrelevant, it is subjecting security concerns to the children, Your Honor.
[1:37:42] Move on.
[1:37:43] Which is not part of this impeachment.
[1:37:45] Attorney Ray, kindly move on.
[1:37:46] Dahil po kayo ay may mga sariling negosyo, hindi naman po kayo, masasabi po natin na kahit pa paano may kaya kayo sa buhay, tama po ba?
[1:37:54] Awaw po ng boss yan.
[1:37:55] Nung Diyos, okay naman po.
[1:37:57] Okay, ngayon, punta tayo dun sa pinag-uusapan natin yung pag-tistigo nyo kanina.
[1:38:05] Ang sabi po nyo, naroon kayo nung i-charge ni...
[1:38:17] Teka mo na, balikan ko muna.
[1:38:20] Naintindihan nyo po ba kung bakit natin pinag-uusapan ng bagay na ito dito sa impeachment court?
[1:38:27] Medyo po, hindi naman po ako lawyer.
[1:38:29] Pero may pagkakainin din po.
[1:38:31] So dahil nga, nagkataon na yung asawa ni Attorney Manz Carpio, eh, ang ating Vice President.
[1:38:38] So isa sa po siyang official publiko, at may mga batas tayo na tungkol sa kung paano dapat mamuhay yung mga public servants natin, tama po ba?
[1:38:53] Alam nyo po ba yun?
[1:38:54] Alam nyo po ba na sa ating saligang batas mismo, nakalagay dun, Section 1 ng Article 11 ng Constitution, na public officers and public employees are supposed to lead modest lives?
[1:39:08] Objection, Your Honor.
[1:39:11] Calls for a legal conclusion.
[1:39:12] The witness is incompetent.
[1:39:14] I'm just asking the witness if he's familiar.
[1:39:16] We do not see the connection.
[1:39:17] Allow me to finish, Attorney.
[1:39:19] Can we allow Attorney Justin to finish, Attorney Ray?
[1:39:21] The witness already said he is not a lawyer, yet the counsel for the prosecution is insisting to ask these questions.
[1:39:30] We do not see how this is relevant.
[1:39:32] The witness is incompetent.
[1:39:33] We just ask that these impertinent questions be disallowed.
[1:39:36] Your Honor, first, the witness never said that he was not a lawyer, but I know that he is not a lawyer.
[1:39:42] But I am just asking him if he's familiar, because this is a premise for the next questions that I will ask.
[1:39:51] I'm just asking him if he's familiar, Your Honor.
[1:39:53] By way of preliminary, Mr. Chad, familiar po ba kayo o hindi?
[1:40:00] Okay lang naman sabihin, oo, hindi.
[1:40:02] Are you familiar with the constitutional provisions cited by Attorney Ray?
[1:40:08] Hindi po, not...
[1:40:10] Sige, papakita ko po sa inyo.
[1:40:12] Can we request that the first slide be...
[1:40:14] Counsel, move along, counsel.
[1:40:18] Because the court can take judicial notice of that already, counsel.
[1:40:22] At bukod pa dun sa Section 1, Article 11 ng Constitution,
[1:40:27] nandiyan din po yan dun sa Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards of Public Officers and Employees.
[1:40:34] Nakalagay po yan sa Section 4H...
[1:40:36] Your Honor, at this point, I will have to object because this is already a speech signing provisions, Your Honor.
[1:40:43] This is not a question.
[1:40:44] The witness early on has already stated that he's not a lawyer.
[1:40:48] Could I be allowed to finish my question?
[1:40:50] Because it is a premise for my question, Your Honor.
[1:40:52] Attorney Ray, you have to forgive me.
[1:40:55] It's quite obvious what you're leading towards.
[1:40:58] This is a proper subject matter for your summation, if any, at the proper time.
[1:41:05] Again, the laws you're citing, court takes judicial notice of it.
[1:41:09] The witness already answered.
[1:41:12] He's not familiar with the first one.
[1:41:13] I already allowed that.
[1:41:15] And you said it yourself.
[1:41:16] You know for a fact he's not a lawyer.
[1:41:18] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:41:19] And therefore, this is only for effect, so to speak.
[1:41:23] No, Your Honor.
[1:41:24] It's a premise for my question.
[1:41:26] But anyway...
[1:41:26] Then go to your question, Counselor.
[1:41:27] Yes.
[1:41:28] We'll proceed, Your Honor.
[1:41:30] So, kanina po, sinabi niyo na sinagot ni Attorney Man Scarpio yung 256,000 pesos na worth ng mga sapatos.
[1:41:42] Sabi niyo ng mga bata.
[1:41:44] Tama po ba?
[1:41:45] Yes, po.
[1:41:46] Pakita na, pwede po na ba natin makita yung letrato?
[1:41:51] Yung una po, yung team na pinakita niyong huli.
[1:41:56] Pwede pong makita.
[1:41:57] The tech is instructed to kindly show the photo of the one showing the team with the shoes, correct, Attorney Ray?
[1:42:05] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:42:08] The team with their box of shoes.
[1:42:12] Tech is waving her hand at me that she does not have a copy.
[1:42:16] Did you get that?
[1:42:16] The one which was shown last, Your Honor?
[1:42:18] It was just shown?
[1:42:20] The one that was last shown?
[1:42:29] Showing the members of the team with the face?
[1:42:31] Walang sapatos yun.
[1:42:33] Opo, yun lang po muna, and we will proceed to the one with the shoes.
[1:42:37] Okay.
[1:42:44] Does the tech have a copy of the USB?
[1:42:46] No.
[1:42:46] We don't, Your Honor.
[1:42:48] So, can we request that the USB be returned to the...
[1:42:51] This has already been previously marked and stipulated by councils.
[1:42:58] Can we borrow the USB?
[1:42:59] Yes, please.
[1:43:01] Mr. Chad, can I do give?
[1:43:04] Without prejudice to assisting council, of course, observing.
[1:43:12] I think it's the last photo of the team in the sequence given in the USB.
[1:43:38] The one shown earlier.
[1:43:39] Yes.
[1:43:39] Okay.
[1:43:41] Yan po.
[1:43:42] Ang membro po ng team dyan, yung nakaupo at saka yung isang nakatayo, tama po ba?
[1:43:48] Tama po.
[1:43:48] At sila pong lahat, eh, sampo? Tama po ba?
[1:43:53] Eleven po sila lahat.
[1:43:54] Eleven, no?
[1:43:55] Okay.
[1:43:56] Puntahan po natin yung pinakitan yung letrato na sinasabi niyong si Attorney Man Scarpio at saka yung mga sapatos.
[1:44:12] Tech, can we show the picture shown earlier?
[1:44:14] Yung pong mga sapatos na nakikita natin, yun po.
[1:44:40] Yes, po.
[1:44:42] Lampas po ng sampo yan, lampas po ng labing isa.
[1:44:45] Tama po ba?
[1:44:45] Yes, po. Tama po.
[1:44:47] At kung lumalabas, kung 256,000, sinasabi niyo, sa sampo yung membro, or eleven yung membro, 23,000 bawat bata na sapatos.
[1:45:02] Parang hindi yata nagtutugma yun.
[1:45:05] What is the question, Your Honor?
[1:45:08] Your Honor, the witness testified earlier.
[1:45:13] No, no, no. I'm asking what your question is. You just made a statement, Attorney. Forgive me.
[1:45:16] I'm asking the witness.
[1:45:19] Ang sinasabi niya, yung mga sapatos para sa team members, labing isa yung team members.
[1:45:26] Itong sapatos na yan, nandyan sa nakikita natin, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24.
[1:45:37] So, hindi exactly tama na para dun sa mga bata la yung sapatos. Tama po ba?
[1:45:46] Tama po. Correct po.
[1:45:47] At kung kukwentahin kasi, sa bawat isa, 23,000 ang equivalent, bawat bata, kung sa labing isa lang yun.
[1:45:57] Not exactly 23,000 per kid po.
[1:46:04] Pwede po natin makita itong isang letrato na binigay niyo dito.
[1:46:14] Which picture?
[1:46:15] Picture with the group posing with the shoes.
[1:46:21] With the bags of shoes.
[1:46:23] Yes.
[1:46:23] The next picture after this one, Tech.
[1:46:25] Yes.
[1:46:29] Yung sumunod po sa sequence ng pictures.
[1:46:39] So, makikita po natin dito na hindi lang po yung mga bata ang inilibre ng sapatos ni Atty. Carfio. Tama po ba?
[1:46:49] Tama po.
[1:46:50] Opo. Kasi may mga babae pa nga ho dito na may mga sapatos na dala. Tama po ba?
[1:46:54] Tama po.
[1:46:55] Okay. Ngayon, ang tanong ko po, sabi niyo po kanina, kayo rin po naman, kahit pa paano, nakakaangat sa buhay, di po ba?
[1:47:05] Sakto lang po naman.
[1:47:06] Ilang beses po kayong naglibre ng sapatos na kagaya nito?
[1:47:10] Well, may nabigyan din lang po kung mga sapatos.
[1:47:12] Pero yung ganito, na ganyang kadami.
[1:47:14] I don't know.
[1:47:15] Na 256,000.
[1:47:17] Hindi ko po kaya yan.
[1:47:18] Hindi niyo po kaya.
[1:47:19] Okay.
[1:47:20] Ngayon, ito yung tanong ko kaya ko gustong i-flash kanina yung nakalagay sa batas.
[1:47:26] Ito po bang ganitong paggastos ng 256,000 pesos para man libre ng sapatos?
[1:47:35] E ito po ba'y halimbawa ng isang kapamilya ng public official na namumuhay ng simple at payak?
[1:47:46] Ito po ba'y halimbawa nun?
[1:47:55] Can you repeat the question, sir?
[1:47:57] Ang nakalagay po sa batas kasi natin, ang isang public official at ang miyembro ng kanyang pamilya ay dapat they should live simple lives.
[1:48:09] They should avoid ostentatious display of wealth in any form.
[1:48:15] Ito po ba'y isang example ng simple at payak na pamumuhay?
[1:48:23] Maglibre ka ng sapatos ng lahat ng tao dyan?
[1:48:28] Objection, Your Honor.
[1:48:29] Calls for an opinion, Your Honor.
[1:48:31] Well, Your Honor, this witness was presented exactly to try to prove.
[1:48:35] It's also misleading, Your Honor.
[1:48:37] It is not, Your Honor.
[1:48:38] It's not misleading, Counsel.
[1:48:40] Your Honor, it's misleading.
[1:48:41] The witness, apologies, Your Honor.
[1:48:43] The witness already testified earlier na tumulong, Your Honor.
[1:48:46] Already testified what, Attorney Justin?
[1:48:48] Tumulong.
[1:48:53] What do you mean, Attorney Justin?
[1:48:55] Earlier, Your Honor, the witness testified that ang ibang mga bata walang kaya.
[1:48:59] I think that's it.
[1:49:01] What's the objection, Your Honor?
[1:49:02] What's the objection, Your Honor?
[1:49:04] I'll have to overrule your objection, Attorney Justin.
[1:49:07] So, ito po ba'y halimbawa?
[1:49:09] Kung alam niyo po, kung may opinion po kayo, pananaw ka ognay dyan, or wala.
[1:49:15] You may, you're free to answer, whatever you said.
[1:49:17] I cannot comment on the way the Attorney Manassas was thinking.
[1:49:25] Tama po.
[1:49:26] My opinion po is, hindi ko po alam, I cannot answer for him po.
[1:49:31] You cannot answer for him.
[1:49:32] I'm not asking you to answer for him.
[1:49:33] I'm just asking you, if you consider this, kung ito po ay makukonsidera na simpleng pamumuhay,
[1:49:40] yung paglibre ng ganyang kadaming sapato sa napakadaming tao.
[1:49:46] Well, I think deserved naman po ng mga bata at saka ng ibang mga magulang.
[1:49:50] Wala po akong doubt na deserved ng mga bata.
[1:49:54] Pero hindi lang naman ang bata yung min-low out niya dito eh.
[1:49:58] Lahat nung nandun.
[1:50:00] Yan ba ay halimbawa ng simpleng pamumuhay na nakatakda sa ating batas para sa pamilya ng public officer?
[1:50:09] Your Honor, the witness already answered.
[1:50:11] Witness already answered.
[1:50:12] You've made your point, Attorney Ray.
[1:50:13] I think that would be all for the witness, Your Honor.
[1:50:17] Thank you.
[1:50:18] Redirect, ah, recross rather.
[1:50:20] Sorry, I'm forgetting.
[1:50:21] Redirect, Attorney Justin.
[1:50:23] Sir Shad, just a few questions.
[1:50:25] Thank you.
[1:50:27] Kanina, pinakita po kayo ng mga sapatos na binili ang mga bata at may ibang mga tao.
[1:50:34] Bukod sa mga bata, sino po ang binilhan?
[1:50:38] Mga ibang parents and guardians din po.
[1:50:40] Pwede niyo po bang i-explain para malaman ng impeachment court?
[1:50:45] Bakit kailangan bilhan ang ibang parents na mga bata?
[1:50:49] Ano po ba yung circumstances surrounding that?
[1:50:52] Well, yung structure or composition po kasi ng team namin is, hindi naman po lahat, how can I say it in a nice way, hindi naman po lahat may kaya.
[1:51:03] May capacity na bumili ng sapatos makapag-travel abroad.
[1:51:08] In fact, marami po sa kasama namin mga first-time travelers.
[1:51:11] Tilungan ko po mag-bumiyahe, paano pumuntang airport.
[1:51:16] I think deserve naman po nila.
[1:51:20] You said, sorry, please continue if you're not yet done.
[1:51:24] Yun po.
[1:51:25] Hindi naman po lahat ng kasama namin is pumili rin ng sapatos, not everyone.
[1:51:31] Okay, sinabi niyo na, and I appreciate you attempting to say it nicely, yung iba walang kaya.
[1:51:38] San po ba to sila nanggaling kung alam niyo po?
[1:51:41] Well, sa pagsasama po namin na sa pagkakwentuhan, yung iba po doon is sapat lang po para sa pangaraw-araw na pamumuhay yung ano nila.
[1:51:54] Gusto lang po siguro magbigyan ng Purchilino na rin team na makakumpete yung mga bata.
[1:52:01] In that way na mabigyan ng chance yung mga bata na makapag-compete or ma-experience yung ganung klaseng competition na maka-travel abroad.
[1:52:14] It's a priceless memory for the kids.
[1:52:16] Sinabi niyo po na iba-iba yung komposisyon, paano po ba makapasok sa team na yan kung alam niyo po?
[1:52:25] Ano po ba yung standards?
[1:52:28] Pwede po ba nating malaman?
[1:52:28] Well, the way ay nakasali po yung anak ko is nakita ko po sa social media na may posting that there's a tryout and it's possible that they can travel abroad for free.
[1:52:41] So I asked my son, are you willing to tryout to that competition or tryout?
[1:52:48] So pumunta po kami.
[1:52:49] So nagkaroon po, I think.
[1:52:51] On my memory, we had four consecutive tryouts.
[1:52:55] The first tryout, mga madami po kami, kinakabahan nga po kasi ang dami mga bata.
[1:53:03] Mga 80 to 90.
[1:53:05] I have no memory.
[1:53:08] 80 to something, then the cut down on the second tryout.
[1:53:13] On the third tryout po, nakasali po yung anak ko.
[1:53:16] Sinabi po ni niyo kanina na bumili si Atty Manz ng mga sapatos sa Kuala Lumpur.
[1:53:24] Sinabi niyo din po na before actually nakabili na namin po kayo.
[1:53:28] Ano po ba talaga yung sistema dito kung mayroon man sa pagbabayad ng mga sapatos?
[1:53:35] Para pong ano eh, parang toka-toka or brotherhood take turns.
[1:53:40] Minsan po, pag walang pagkain yung mga bata, may bibili ng pagkain.
[1:53:44] Yung may nakita po na before po umalis, mayroon pong isang parent na nagpuntang outlet somewhere south Manila.
[1:53:56] Nakita nila na may murang sapatos.
[1:53:59] So sa group chat namin, sige, bilhin natin yung mga bata.
[1:54:03] I contributed also to that.
[1:54:06] Last question, attorney. Diretsyohan ko na.
[1:54:08] Sinabi niyo, kaibigan at co-parent mo si Atty Manazes Carpio,
[1:54:13] handa ba kayo at willing ba kayo magsinungaling para sa kanya?
[1:54:17] Hindi po.
[1:54:18] No further questions, Your Honor.
[1:54:21] Any recourse, attorney, Ray?
[1:54:22] Just one or two questions, Your Honor.
[1:54:24] You may proceed, sir.
[1:54:25] Sabi niyo po, nag-totoka-toka or nag-take turns, tama po ba?
[1:54:30] Yes, po.
[1:54:31] Meron po bang parent, na co-parent kayo na kasama sa basketball team na nang libre ng ganito?
[1:54:37] Sa buong team at sa ibang mga tao pa na nandun?
[1:54:42] Ang ganyang kalaking halaga?
[1:54:46] Sa dami po ng sapatos, parang parehas po.
[1:54:49] With the amount I cannot...
[1:54:51] Ang sabi niyo kanina, nag-chat kayo at nag-contribute kayo, tama po?
[1:54:57] Yes, po.
[1:54:58] Hindi galing sa isang tao.
[1:55:00] Hindi po.
[1:55:00] Yun lang po.
[1:55:05] We only have one senator, like before, who wishes to interject.
[1:55:10] Senator Judge Kiko is recognized.
[1:55:15] Thereafter, Senator Judge Pia, before we break for lunch.
[1:55:18] Yes, Senator Judge Kiko, may proceed.
[1:55:20] Thank you, Mr. Presiding Officer.
[1:55:22] Magandang umaga.
[1:55:25] Chad, no?
[1:55:26] Yes.
[1:55:27] Good afternoon po.
[1:55:28] Good morning po, Your Honor.
[1:55:29] Good morning.
[1:55:29] I'm also a parent of an athlete.
[1:55:36] In fact, my daughter went to Bangkok for competition.
[1:55:40] And then my son, although local lang si ang aking anak.
[1:55:45] But that's why I'm familiar ako sa mga ganitong mga competition, teams, etc.
[1:55:51] Napanggit niyo na maraming biyahe na kayong napuntahan.
[1:55:59] Fukuoka, several areas, several countries.
[1:56:06] China, Japan.
[1:56:08] Ay, hindi po ko kasama sa China.
[1:56:09] Ay, yung sa Shanghai, wala.
[1:56:10] Pero yung team ng grupo ninyo pumunta, yung anak mo hindi.
[1:56:14] Okay, so that's Shanghai, Japan, Malaysia.
[1:56:22] What are the others?
[1:56:24] Would you recall?
[1:56:26] Singapore.
[1:56:26] Singapore.
[1:56:28] So four, five, three or four.
[1:56:31] Four or five.
[1:56:33] Doon ba ang parents ang naggagastos pati ng ticket?
[1:56:38] Kayo ba ang...
[1:56:40] Sino ang naggagastos ng mga ticket?
[1:56:42] Sa ticket po, hindi ko po sure kung sino yung gumagastos sa ticket.
[1:56:47] Sa inyo?
[1:56:49] Kasama po yung pamilya ko, yes, I buy my own ticket.
[1:56:52] So you pay for it?
[1:56:52] Yes po.
[1:56:53] Pero yung pati yung mga bata?
[1:56:57] Well, asawa ko po, isang anak ko po, yes.
[1:56:59] Pero po yung bata, is libre po ng team.
[1:57:05] So bayad yung ticket ng mga bata?
[1:57:08] Ako po.
[1:57:09] Who pays for that?
[1:57:10] Not the parents?
[1:57:13] Not the parents.
[1:57:14] I think they have sponsors po, sir.
[1:57:16] So would you know, if you know, baka naman hindi nyo alam, na si Mr. Manson Scarpio ang nagbayad ng mga ticket?
[1:57:26] No knowledge po.
[1:57:26] You wouldn't know?
[1:57:27] Yes po.
[1:57:29] So they get sponsors?
[1:57:31] Yes po.
[1:57:31] What about the hotel accommodations?
[1:57:35] Sponsor din yun?
[1:57:36] Usually po kasi, parang package po yan. Parang ginagawa ng international organization na package po sila.
[1:57:43] Yes.
[1:57:43] When you...
[1:57:44] But you mentioned earlier, did you mention it, if I recall correctly, na manager, si Mr. Carpio ang manager, tama po yan?
[1:57:52] Hindi.
[1:57:53] Parang ganun po.
[1:57:53] Yes.
[1:57:54] Okay.
[1:57:54] Suposible ba na yung manager ang nagbayad ng mga ticket?
[1:57:58] No.
[1:57:58] You wouldn't know?
[1:57:59] I wouldn't know, sir.
[1:58:00] Pwede, maaaring siya nagbayad, maaaring rin hindi. Kasi hindi mo lang alam.
[1:58:08] And siguro yun lang, no? Yun lang ang clarification ko. I have no other questions. Thank you very much.
[1:58:19] Thank you. Thank you rin po, Your Honor.
[1:58:20] Senator Judge Pia, I know this is right at your avenue. I know. You're recognized, ma'am. You may proceed when you're ready.
[1:58:32] Thank you. Prosecution, I'm warning you.
[1:58:35] I will not hide my disdain. I will not. I cannot. I cannot. I don't even know where to begin.
[1:58:52] Attorney Ray, Article 2, Section 12, are you familiar?
[1:58:56] Yes, Your Honor.
[1:58:58] Then tell me what it is.
[1:58:59] I'm only familiar, Your Honor. I didn't memorize.
[1:59:02] Of course, we don't. I hate it when people say, the public act so-and-so, number ganyan. We don't memorize.
[1:59:09] So I will read it to you, para we don't waste time.
[1:59:11] Hindi, ikaw na magbasa. Kasi pag ako nagbasa, bawa sa oras ko. Pag ikaw nagbasa, hindi yan bawa sa oras ko.
[1:59:16] I don't think I have a copy, Your Honor.
[1:59:18] Ha?
[1:59:18] I don't think I have a copy now.
[1:59:20] Pero may constitution kayo nala.
[1:59:21] Wala po. Wala po.
[1:59:22] Grabe naman kayo. Sige, ako na lang.
[1:59:25] Anyway, ang kasunod naman, round two, ako din, diba? So, dito lang ako.
[1:59:28] Pwede na ko kayong kumain, dahil mahaba-haba to.
[1:59:33] Article 2, Section 12 of the Constitution states, sorry, wait, dalawa kasi itong provision na babasahin ko.
[1:59:43] Uunahin ko ang Article 14, Section 19. Since you don't have a constitution, I'll read it for you, sir.
[1:59:51] Wala po kong copy.
[1:59:52] Yeah, okay, I'll read it for you. I'll start with Article 14, Section 19.
[1:59:56] The state shall promote physical education and encourage sports programs, league competitions, and amateur sports,
[2:00:02] including training for international competition, to foster self-discipline, teamwork, and excellence
[2:00:12] for the development of a healthy and alert citizenry.
[2:00:17] Maraming salamat, Mr. Chad.
[2:00:20] Na as a parent, inabala mo yung oras mo.
[2:00:24] To bring your son, son, no? I suppose it's a son.
[2:00:27] Yes, po.
[2:00:27] Yeah, and of course, kung may daughter ka, you will treat the daughter the same way.
[2:00:30] The same way, son.
[2:00:31] Of course, thank you.
[2:00:33] Nag-abala ka to bring your son to all these countries.
[2:00:36] I have a brother like that, si Renren.
[2:00:41] Naisasantabi niya na yung iba niyang kailangan obligasyon kasi siya yung driver, father,
[2:00:46] driving his son to morning practice, afternoon practice, tournaments.
[2:00:52] Last weekend, nasa Tarlac. I don't know how many months ago, nag-Singapore din.
[2:00:57] So, parang ikaw din.
[2:00:58] And bilib na bilib po ako sa inyo.
[2:01:01] Thank you, po.
[2:01:02] Now, let me go now to, as I said, Article 2, Section 12.
[2:01:08] The state recognizes the sanctity of the family, of family life, and shall protect and strengthen
[2:01:12] the family sa basic autonomous social institution.
[2:01:16] So, ang ibig sabihin nun, on your own, you can decide what you want for your family, Mr. Chad.
[2:01:21] So, if merong parent dito na ang gusto e music and arts, right ng family yun to choose how to manage their family.
[2:01:30] In your case, apparently sports, not to waste too much time, but if your kids are involved in something else, then well and good.
[2:01:37] The natural and primary right, I continue in Article 2, Section 12.
[2:01:42] The natural and primary right and duty of parents in the rearing of youth for civic efficiency and the development of moral character shall receive the support of government.
[2:01:53] And earlier, binasa ko nga kung how sports is part of character development, preparing the children for civic duty.
[2:02:17] Just curious, nakatanggap ka ng support from government?
[2:02:22] Sa?
[2:02:23] Sa pagpapadala mo sa mga anak mo dito sa mga training niya, tournament niya?
[2:02:30] Wala po.
[2:02:30] And as in so far as you are familiar lang naman, would you know kung yung ibang kasama ng mga kasamahan ng mga anak mo e nakatanggap ng support from government?
[2:02:42] I'm correct me.
[2:02:43] So, ama, yung anak ko po e nabigyan din po ng help ng government.
[2:02:50] That's great.
[2:02:51] I'm happy to know that.
[2:02:52] Sa Palarong Pangbansa.
[2:02:54] Perfect.
[2:02:54] Through the Palarong Pangbansa.
[2:02:56] Para makarating sa Palarong Pangbansa.
[2:02:58] Opo.
[2:02:59] Na-qualify po sila sa regionals.
[2:03:02] The school represented in Muntinlupa.
[2:03:05] Congratulations.
[2:03:06] Ako din nakalaro sa Palarong Pangbansa.
[2:03:07] Daddy ko nagpamasahe sa amin.
[2:03:11] But it's because of parents like my father and parents like you.
[2:03:15] And by the way, for the record, pinamasahe, pinamasahe, pinamasahe, pinamasahe, nagbayad ng pamasahe ng teammate ko, tatay ko rin.
[2:03:25] Kasi walang pambayan yung iba kong teammates.
[2:03:28] So, ganun talaga, no?
[2:03:29] Tulong-tulong pagka, ano, kusinong meron.
[2:03:31] Kaya ko naman natanggap, natanong yung tungkol sa government support.
[2:03:35] Because I'll go back to you, Attorney Ray.
[2:03:39] Are you familiar with the plight of Filipino athletes when it comes to the financial need to compete?
[2:03:46] Yes, I'm more or less familiar.
[2:03:48] And you do understand that a Filipino world-class athlete is not born, is not created overnight?
[2:03:56] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:03:56] Nag-umpisa yun habang bata?
[2:03:58] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:03:58] And it's an expensive endeavor and they deserve all of the support that they can get, Your Honor.
[2:04:05] I have no quarrel about that, Your Honor.
[2:04:07] Thank you. Maraming salamat.
[2:04:08] So, ito na yung crooks ng question ko.
[2:04:10] Is it the prosecution's intention to make a parent relinquish their parental duty in terms of rearing their child in the way,
[2:04:24] in the manner they feel is the best to promote character, leadership, teamwork,
[2:04:33] just because one of the parent becomes a public official?
[2:04:38] That's not our point, Your Honor.
[2:04:40] The point is, Your Honor, our laws specifically states the appropriate manner a public official is supposed to conduct himself or herself.
[2:04:50] Yes, and I heard that, sir.
[2:04:53] And that's what we're raising here, Your Honor.
[2:04:56] Yes, sir. Thank you.
[2:04:57] We have no quarrel about a parent supporting a child's inclination for sports.
[2:05:04] Thank you, sir.
[2:05:05] And to help sports development.
[2:05:08] Thank you.
[2:05:08] So, kung ang isang public official, eh, yung sport ng anak niya is basketball or volleyball or football,
[2:05:17] kailangan nang i-bili niyang sapato sa anak niya, eh, yung walang brand.
[2:05:20] Kasi otherwise, eh, siya na itinuturing na living beyond their means and in an ostentatious manner.
[2:05:27] And, assuming you will say, hindi yung anak niya pwede niyang i-bili.
[2:05:31] Pero alam niya na yung ibang teammates, baka medyo kapos-kapos.
[2:05:34] But pwede namang middle class yan, pero hindi na tayo mag-Q&A, no?
[2:05:38] Pero you could be earning a 100,000 and have three kids.
[2:05:41] Kaya ako nga tinatanong, kasi may mga teammates yung pamangkin ko na tatlo yung anak.
[2:05:48] Sabi ko, tatlo yung magkakapatid.
[2:05:50] Tatlong sapatos ng tag-11,000, 33,000 na yun.
[2:05:54] So, kung may parent natutulong,
[2:05:56] ang point ko, Mr. Dear Prosecution Panel,
[2:06:04] and you already answered the question,
[2:06:06] so I will not ask you again.
[2:06:08] Baka naman kampihan ka pa ng defense at sabihin, asked and answered na.
[2:06:12] I will just make my point.
[2:06:16] You seem to want to give the impression that I, as a parent,
[2:06:22] my daughters were nine and six when I became a senator.
[2:06:31] If this happened then,
[2:06:36] you would impress upon me as a law-abiding citizen
[2:06:40] that I should not put my kids in sports because mapupuna ako.
[2:06:45] You are shaking your head but that is exactly what you were making it appear, Mr. President.
[2:06:52] And I need all of us here to understand that we set the tone.
[2:06:58] I am telling you, you cannot shake your head when I am telling you how I feel.
[2:07:04] You can tell me that wasn't your intention,
[2:07:07] but I feel like you were telling my 38-year-old self
[2:07:13] that I am going to take care of my kids in sports because I am going to take care of my kids in sports.
[2:07:20] And when I am sick, as I have,
[2:07:27] those daughters of mine went on to join the UP team,
[2:07:30] scholar ng bayan, very proud.
[2:07:32] Marami ho silang teammates na binalhan ko rin ng sapatos.
[2:07:40] At in a range ko, by the way,
[2:07:42] di na ho ako nag-abalang tumayo nung isang araw.
[2:07:44] Nag-China din po ako.
[2:07:48] Sponsored po.
[2:07:50] Parang hindi nyo nakalkalin.
[2:07:51] Sponsored.
[2:07:52] At nag-Japan din ako.
[2:07:54] Sponsored din ng Japan.
[2:07:57] Dala ko ang UP football team
[2:07:59] para maka-experience sila doon.
[2:08:04] So the way you are presenting it,
[2:08:05] you are telling law-abiding citizens like me,
[2:08:09] mothers nagmamalasakit like me,
[2:08:10] wag ka nang mag-abala.
[2:08:15] Hayaan mo na lang yung mga atlet na yan.
[2:08:17] Because that is the message that you are sending, Mr. President.
[2:08:20] And I will end with this.
[2:08:22] Are there any of my colleagues here
[2:08:24] na binilan ng kahit anong gamit ang mga atleta?
[2:08:28] Si Joel, Diyos ko.
[2:08:30] Si Joel is a basketball lover.
[2:08:33] Pero pati volleyball, inangkin na niya.
[2:08:36] Lahat na na.
[2:08:38] Si Senator Miggs,
[2:08:39] hindi lang yung Arnist team,
[2:08:41] lahat nang lumalapit.
[2:08:42] I am so sorry, my dear colleagues.
[2:08:45] This time naman ate into our eating time lang naman eh.
[2:08:49] So pasensya na, madaliin na lang natin.
[2:08:51] Or I will request the Senate President
[2:08:53] for 11 more minutes of time
[2:08:55] dahil I took your time.
[2:08:57] And I apologize.
[2:08:58] I apologize.
[2:09:01] But we set the tone.
[2:09:08] It is our choice.
[2:09:09] How, what kind of questions we ask.
[2:09:12] It is our choice.
[2:09:15] To know where to stop.
[2:09:17] Would you ask where the student studies?
[2:09:19] I wouldn't want you to know
[2:09:25] if I had a small child where my child studies.
[2:09:27] I wouldn't want the whole world to know.
[2:09:29] You see how vicious people are on social media?
[2:09:33] And you ask those kind of questions?
[2:09:36] Yun lang po.
[2:09:37] And I apologize, dear colleagues.
[2:09:39] I apologize for being a bit emotional about this.
[2:09:42] But sports will save us.
[2:09:45] Alex Ayala, Kaloy Yulo, EJ O'Biena,
[2:09:49] lahat yan nangailangan ng suporta.
[2:09:51] And if people like us who have the means to help
[2:09:54] will be embarrassed to help
[2:09:56] dahil sasabihin nyo na lang
[2:09:57] na huwag namin gawin yun.
[2:10:00] Dahil pupunahin nyo lang kami.
[2:10:02] Eh, paano na tayo?
[2:10:03] Kaya salamat na nag-abala ka.
[2:10:06] One year of friendship
[2:10:07] at nag-abala kang to come here
[2:10:09] knowing how there have been many times
[2:10:12] at hindi tayo nagpakita ng respeto sa mga witness.
[2:10:15] Thank you, Mr. Chad, for your strength and courage.
[2:10:18] Thank you rin po.
[2:10:20] Just for the record,
[2:10:22] nung nanalo po ang UP,
[2:10:23] hindi nag-champion makalipos ang ilang dekada.
[2:10:26] Nag-bon para sila, nagbigay din ako.
[2:10:30] Yes, Senator Meigs is recognized.
[2:10:32] Thank you very much, Mr. President.
[2:10:34] Mr. President, ako ay sumasang-ayon sa binagit ni Senator Pia.
[2:10:38] I think we belabored the point.
[2:10:40] He did spend money for the team.
[2:10:43] You made their point that it could be ostentatious
[2:10:46] or of course the defense is saying that they were reimbursed.
[2:10:51] Okay na siguro yan.
[2:10:53] What I'm interested more is not on the spending of this credit card.
[2:10:56] I'm interested more on saan pumunta yung 300 million foreign deposits
[2:11:01] sa Cal 88, saan galing yun, anong ginawa sa pera,
[2:11:06] may mga documentation ba na natanggap na,
[2:11:09] nabayaran ba ng BIR,
[2:11:10] ang kanilang dividend stocks, things like that.
[2:11:13] That's what I'm more interested in as a senator judge.
[2:11:16] I think this issue about yung sa mga estudyante,
[2:11:19] thank you, Sir Man Scarpio, for supporting the team.
[2:11:24] I'm also, in a similar situation,
[2:11:27] I had an NSA for ARNIS,
[2:11:29] Philippine Cali ARNIS Federation of the Philippines.
[2:11:32] We always do that.
[2:11:33] Tumutulong po kami sa mga pumupunta sa abroad,
[2:11:36] lumalaban sa Batang Pinoy,
[2:11:37] lumalaban sa PNG,
[2:11:39] Philippine National Games,
[2:11:40] normal sa atin yan.
[2:11:41] So I think, maybe we belabor the point for the prosecution,
[2:11:44] let's move on,
[2:11:45] and then maybe let's listen to other witnesses
[2:11:48] that can give us the more substantive answers
[2:11:51] to the cases at hand.
[2:11:54] Maraming salamat po, Sir President.
[2:11:55] Thank you.
[2:11:56] Move on na nga, di ba?
[2:12:00] Kasasabi lang ni Senator Minsk na move on na eh.
[2:12:02] Kayo naman.
[2:12:04] Senator Judge Joel, what can I do?
[2:12:06] Senator Judge Robin thereafter.
[2:12:11] Mr. Presiding Officer.
[2:12:13] Regardless of how long the two of you will speak,
[2:12:15] we will still resume at 1 o'clock, okay?
[2:12:17] Mr. Senate President,
[2:12:18] Mr. Presiding Officer,
[2:12:20] mahirap po palampasin itong issue na ito
[2:12:23] kasi sports po ito eh.
[2:12:26] At lalo na kung ang issue ay pagbili ng sapatos.
[2:12:29] Naku po, pagka ho,
[2:12:32] nakikita dyan ngayon sa screen na ako yung nandito.
[2:12:36] Marami po sa taga-UST yun natingin sa akin,
[2:12:39] sponsor ng sapatos.
[2:12:42] Siguro Mr. President,
[2:12:43] and I would like to share the sentiments
[2:12:45] of our majority leader, Senator Miggs,
[2:12:48] to move on.
[2:12:49] But the only thing that I'd like to raise
[2:12:52] and perhaps ask Mr. Chad,
[2:12:54] is that whether or not yung lahat po ba ng gastos
[2:12:58] at lahat ng, yung sinabi nyo,
[2:13:00] ng mga trips, hotel, airline, et cetera,
[2:13:05] sinasagot po ba ito ni
[2:13:07] attorney man, Scarpio, sir?
[2:13:11] I have no idea po, your honor.
[2:13:13] So, ibig sabihin, sa inyo po,
[2:13:14] yung kayo po,
[2:13:15] sinagot po ba yung sa inyong mag-asawa,
[2:13:18] sa inyong anak?
[2:13:19] I pay for it.
[2:13:20] Hindi po.
[2:13:20] Kayo po yung gumasto.
[2:13:21] Yes po.
[2:13:21] Sa hotel, sa airline.
[2:13:24] Tama po.
[2:13:24] Tama po.
[2:13:25] Yun lang po yung sa akin.
[2:13:26] Kasi, Mr. President,
[2:13:28] hindi na po kayo lalayo sa UST.
[2:13:31] Dito na lang po sa Senado.
[2:13:32] Nakikita ko yung mga teammates ko sa Senado nandito.
[2:13:35] Mga tatlong po na po siguro dito ng player
[2:13:38] ang nabigyan ko ng Nike shoes.
[2:13:42] Baka maging guilty din po ako.
[2:13:43] Mahirap naman.
[2:13:44] Pero,
[2:13:45] ha, ganun ba yun?
[2:13:48] Pero,
[2:13:49] sa akin, Mr. President,
[2:13:50] importante na
[2:13:51] dun tayong mag-focus yung
[2:13:53] tungkol po doon,
[2:13:55] if ever,
[2:13:56] na
[2:13:56] yun lang
[2:13:57] ang gustong ipakita ng prosecution.
[2:14:00] Dito ho,
[2:14:01] sa issue na ito,
[2:14:02] I don't think
[2:14:02] meron
[2:14:04] isa sa ating mga kapwa,
[2:14:06] Senador,
[2:14:07] ang interested doon sa
[2:14:08] pagbigay ng sapatos
[2:14:10] sa mga batang nag-champion
[2:14:12] and somehow represented
[2:14:14] our country in this international.
[2:14:16] So,
[2:14:16] Mr. Chad,
[2:14:17] salamat din po
[2:14:18] at mabuhay po kayo.
[2:14:20] Salamat din po.
[2:14:20] Mr. President.
[2:14:21] Thank you.
[2:14:21] Senator,
[2:14:22] Judge Robin is recognized.
[2:14:24] You may proceed, sir.
[2:14:26] Hindi, magbabago na ng testigo eh.
[2:14:29] Not with this witness?
[2:14:30] Okay.
[2:14:33] Attorney Sheila,
[2:14:34] what is your pleasure, ma'am?
[2:14:35] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:14:36] Before we pause for lunch.
[2:14:38] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:14:39] Just before we
[2:14:40] take a break for lunch,
[2:14:42] Your Honor,
[2:14:43] we have one last remaining witness
[2:14:45] for today,
[2:14:46] but this witness will just
[2:14:48] identify and authenticate
[2:14:50] certified through copies
[2:14:53] of the documents
[2:14:53] that he brought with him today.
[2:14:57] And so,
[2:14:57] if the prosecution
[2:14:58] is willing
[2:14:59] to stipulate
[2:15:00] on those documents
[2:15:01] and we can dispense
[2:15:02] with his testimony
[2:15:04] because really,
[2:15:06] they're just certified
[2:15:07] through copies
[2:15:08] and the next witness
[2:15:09] is actually
[2:15:10] a government officer,
[2:15:13] a public official
[2:15:14] who is competent
[2:15:16] to authenticate
[2:15:18] those documents.
[2:15:19] They being certified
[2:15:20] through copies.
[2:15:21] Do you have a copy
[2:15:22] of those documents,
[2:15:23] Honorable Redon?
[2:15:25] We will turn it over
[2:15:26] to Attorney Ligutan,
[2:15:27] Your Honor.
[2:15:28] Attorney Ligutan,
[2:15:29] do you have a copy
[2:15:30] of the documents
[2:15:30] that the witness
[2:15:31] will be presenting?
[2:15:32] As to official copies,
[2:15:34] is not Your Honor.
[2:15:35] Okay,
[2:15:36] but before that,
[2:15:36] let me first excuse
[2:15:39] Mr. Chad.
[2:15:42] Ginong Chad,
[2:15:43] maraming salamat po
[2:15:43] sa inyong panahon,
[2:15:44] maraming salamat po
[2:15:45] sa pag-isagot
[2:15:46] sa mga katanungan,
[2:15:47] at maraming salamat din po
[2:15:49] sa support
[2:15:50] ang binibigyan nyo
[2:15:51] sa kabataang Pilipinos
[2:15:52] sa larangan ng palakasan.
[2:15:54] Your excuse, sir.
[2:15:55] Yeah, thank you po,
[2:15:55] Mr. Presiding of it.
[2:15:56] Thank you po, Senators.
[2:15:57] Thank you, sir.
[2:15:58] Thank you rin po.
[2:15:58] If you do not
[2:15:59] have a copy,
[2:16:00] Attorney Sheila
[2:16:00] will be here
[2:16:01] for lunch anyway.
[2:16:03] Kindly furnish
[2:16:04] the prosecution
[2:16:04] with a copy
[2:16:05] of the documents
[2:16:06] over lunch
[2:16:06] and when we resume
[2:16:08] we shall hear
[2:16:11] the prosecution stipulate.
[2:16:14] Your Honor,
[2:16:14] I think I heard
[2:16:15] the counsel
[2:16:17] for the prosecution
[2:16:18] say that they're
[2:16:18] willing to stipulate
[2:16:19] if we have copies
[2:16:22] or the official copies
[2:16:23] of the certified
[2:16:24] through copies.
[2:16:25] We do have that,
[2:16:26] Your Honor.
[2:16:26] We can just also
[2:16:27] get the original
[2:16:28] from the witness
[2:16:29] who came here today
[2:16:30] so that the prosecution
[2:16:32] may have the opportunity
[2:16:34] to compare
[2:16:35] the faithful reproduction
[2:16:36] with the original copies
[2:16:38] since these are
[2:16:39] just certified
[2:16:39] through copies.
[2:16:40] I can relate,
[2:16:41] Your Honor.
[2:16:42] If the prosecution
[2:16:43] is willing to stipulate
[2:16:44] on the ability
[2:16:46] of the witness
[2:16:46] to authenticate
[2:16:47] these documents,
[2:16:49] then we will dispense
[2:16:50] with this testimony
[2:16:51] and the offer
[2:16:53] of the documentary
[2:16:54] evidence will come
[2:16:55] at the appropriate time
[2:16:56] and the prosecution
[2:16:58] will also be given
[2:16:59] the opportunity
[2:17:00] to comment on the offer.
[2:17:02] If that is the case,
[2:17:03] so we will end
[2:17:05] this trial for today.
[2:17:06] My only question is
[2:17:07] if you present
[2:17:09] a public document,
[2:17:11] so, I mean,
[2:17:12] what's the basis
[2:17:12] of the offer
[2:17:15] of the evidence?
[2:17:18] Again,
[2:17:18] counsels,
[2:17:19] counsels,
[2:17:20] I thought,
[2:17:21] I didn't think
[2:17:22] this would be short
[2:17:23] or brief.
[2:17:23] that's why
[2:17:24] during lunch,
[2:17:25] can you kindly furnish?
[2:17:28] Magla-lunch din
[2:17:29] naman kayo dito, eh.
[2:17:30] But it's really
[2:17:30] just identification,
[2:17:32] Your Honor.
[2:17:32] Nothing on the substance
[2:17:37] of the document,
[2:17:39] Just on the face
[2:17:40] of the document?
[2:17:41] Yes, yes,
[2:17:41] Your Honor.
[2:17:42] Just identification
[2:17:43] of the certified
[2:17:44] through copies.
[2:17:45] So there's no need
[2:17:45] for us to resume
[2:17:46] siguro, no?
[2:17:47] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:17:47] I think that's
[2:17:49] the query
[2:17:49] of Attorney Ligutan.
[2:17:56] What is your pleasure,
[2:17:57] Attorney Virgil?
[2:17:59] Will you stipulate?
[2:18:00] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:18:01] These are public documents.
[2:18:03] Judicial notice
[2:18:04] that they do exist,
[2:18:05] so there's no need
[2:18:07] for that, Your Honor.
[2:18:07] So at the proper time
[2:18:09] during marking,
[2:18:10] Attorney Sheila,
[2:18:11] you will present
[2:18:15] the documents
[2:18:15] for marking
[2:18:16] which Attorney Ligutan
[2:18:18] is stipulated
[2:18:18] for as long
[2:18:19] as they're
[2:18:20] all public documents?
[2:18:21] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:18:21] Emanating from
[2:18:23] the Office of the City
[2:18:25] Prosecutor of
[2:18:26] Quezon City.
[2:18:27] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:18:27] That's correct,
[2:18:28] Your Honor.
[2:18:29] We will do that.
[2:18:30] With the stipulation
[2:18:31] of Attorney Virgil
[2:18:33] for the panel
[2:18:35] of prosecutors,
[2:18:37] in regard
[2:18:39] to Prosecutor
[2:18:41] Vimar Barcelliano,
[2:18:45] the respondent,
[2:18:47] the lead
[2:18:47] Prosecutor
[2:18:47] of the Respondent
[2:18:48] has expressed
[2:18:51] her intent
[2:18:52] to no longer
[2:18:54] represent
[2:18:55] Prosecutor
[2:18:57] Barcelliano
[2:18:58] given the stipulation
[2:18:59] of counsel
[2:18:59] for the panel
[2:19:00] of prosecutors.
[2:19:01] Thank you,
[2:19:02] Your Honor.
[2:19:02] The same is granted
[2:19:03] and so ordered.
[2:19:04] The lead prosecutor
[2:19:05] has something to say,
[2:19:06] Your Honor.
[2:19:07] We can also use
[2:19:08] the afternoon,
[2:19:09] Your Honor,
[2:19:09] just for the marking
[2:19:10] of all the documents.
[2:19:11] Yes,
[2:19:12] I believe you have
[2:19:13] scheduled marking
[2:19:14] this afternoon.
[2:19:15] Yes,
[2:19:16] Your Honor.
[2:19:16] With that also,
[2:19:17] Your Honor,
[2:19:18] just one very quick
[2:19:19] query.
[2:19:19] Of course,
[2:19:20] Attorney Sheila.
[2:19:20] Since we no longer
[2:19:21] have witness
[2:19:22] for the day
[2:19:24] and for the rest
[2:19:25] of the day
[2:19:26] and for tomorrow,
[2:19:28] then we will just
[2:19:29] ask for the
[2:19:30] cancellation
[2:19:30] of tomorrow's setting
[2:19:32] and we're okay
[2:19:33] with the court
[2:19:34] deducting
[2:19:35] the trial date
[2:19:36] from our requested
[2:19:37] trial date,
[2:19:38] Your Honor.
[2:19:38] I was about to ask
[2:19:39] that,
[2:19:39] Attorney Sheila,
[2:19:41] actually,
[2:19:41] because we no longer
[2:19:42] have a witness
[2:19:43] for tomorrow
[2:19:44] that will be
[2:19:45] in compliance
[2:19:46] with the five-day
[2:19:48] notice rule
[2:19:49] given that
[2:19:49] the witness
[2:19:51] was not named
[2:19:53] in the pretrial order.
[2:19:55] Honorable Redon,
[2:19:56] what is your pleasure,
[2:19:57] sir?
[2:19:57] No,
[2:19:57] we wanted to ask,
[2:19:58] Your Honor,
[2:19:59] if the defense
[2:20:00] is ready to submit
[2:20:01] its witness list
[2:20:03] for next week.
[2:20:04] We will submit
[2:20:06] and comply
[2:20:06] with the five-day
[2:20:07] notice rule.
[2:20:08] I think for Thursday,
[2:20:09] and Friday,
[2:20:10] we still have
[2:20:11] until Saturday,
[2:20:12] Your Honor,
[2:20:12] to disclose
[2:20:13] our witnesses
[2:20:14] and we will provide
[2:20:15] the prosecution
[2:20:16] and this court
[2:20:17] with a written copy
[2:20:18] of our manifestation.
[2:20:19] Kindly furnish
[2:20:20] by email
[2:20:21] as you have done
[2:20:22] so in the past
[2:20:22] because it will be,
[2:20:24] ASEAN will be
[2:20:25] upon us
[2:20:27] Monday to Wednesday
[2:20:28] and the Senate
[2:20:29] will be closed.
[2:20:31] I believe this whole area
[2:20:32] will be on lockdown,
[2:20:33] Attorney Sheila.
[2:20:34] Understood,
[2:20:34] Your Honor.
[2:20:35] So we will do
[2:20:35] filing and service
[2:20:36] by electronic mail,
[2:20:38] Your Honor.
[2:20:38] Yes, please.
[2:20:39] Before we go
[2:20:41] any further,
[2:20:41] what is the pleasure
[2:20:42] of Senator Judge Padilla?
[2:20:44] Maraming salamat po.
[2:20:46] Ginuong
[2:20:46] takapamahalang hukom.
[2:20:48] Sapagkat kanina po kasi
[2:20:49] sabi niyo
[2:20:50] mamayala lang kami magtanong.
[2:20:52] Matatapos na po pala.
[2:20:53] Pwede na po pala ngayon.
[2:20:54] Pwede na po.
[2:20:55] Mukhang ganun lang.
[2:20:56] Apo.
[2:20:56] Your Honor.
[2:20:57] Maraming salamat po.
[2:20:58] Yes, you may proceed, sir.
[2:21:00] Apo.
[2:21:00] Meron lang po akong
[2:21:00] tanong sa prosecution.
[2:21:03] Apo, pwede.
[2:21:03] Yes,
[2:21:05] Honorable Redon
[2:21:06] or
[2:21:06] Attorney Ray
[2:21:07] or
[2:21:08] Attorney Ligutan.
[2:21:09] Yung kanina pong
[2:21:10] nakakayon.
[2:21:11] Attorney Ray,
[2:21:14] with your indulgence,
[2:21:18] Honorable Redon,
[2:21:19] can you remind me
[2:21:20] to recognize you
[2:21:21] before we adjourn?
[2:21:21] Tandang hapon po.
[2:21:24] Opo.
[2:21:25] Kanina po,
[2:21:28] parang sa pagkakaintindi ko po,
[2:21:30] inyo pong sinasaksak
[2:21:34] sa kapuso
[2:21:36] at kapamilya
[2:21:37] at kapatid
[2:21:38] nating mga kababayan
[2:21:39] na talagang dapat
[2:21:41] mabuhay ng simple
[2:21:43] ang lahat ng public official.
[2:21:46] Tama po ba?
[2:21:47] Opo, kasi yan po yung
[2:21:48] tinatakda ng batas
[2:21:49] at ng saligang batas po.
[2:21:51] Yan po.
[2:21:51] Opo.
[2:21:52] Sa tingin niyo po ba,
[2:21:54] diyan po sa
[2:21:55] camera,
[2:22:00] meron po ba diyan
[2:22:01] mga nakakotse
[2:22:02] na mga halagang
[2:22:04] 16 million
[2:22:05] to 22 million?
[2:22:06] Wala po akong personal
[2:22:09] nakakinalang ganyan.
[2:22:09] Wala po kayong personal.
[2:22:10] Diyan po sa mga kasama po ninyo,
[2:22:12] mambabatas.
[2:22:13] Diyan po sa katabi nyo,
[2:22:14] meron po ba diyan
[2:22:15] nakakotse ng Mercedes-Benz,
[2:22:18] wagon,
[2:22:19] kulay itim?
[2:22:20] Wala po akong alam
[2:22:22] na may Mercedes-Benz.
[2:22:22] Wala po kayong alam.
[2:22:23] Siguro po,
[2:22:23] dapat una natin
[2:22:24] tingnan yung mga kasama natin
[2:22:27] dahil may kasabihan nga po tayo.
[2:22:29] Tingnan muna natin
[2:22:30] yung mga kasama natin
[2:22:31] bago tayo kumahol.
[2:22:33] Sa pangkat alam nyo po,
[2:22:36] pagka ganyan
[2:22:36] na ipinipilit natin
[2:22:39] ng isang bagay
[2:22:40] tapos yung mga kasama nyo diyan,
[2:22:42] ang alam ko pa diyan,
[2:22:43] meron mga membro din diyan
[2:22:45] ng public information.
[2:22:48] Nakasama ko,
[2:22:48] nagsusulong ng FOI,
[2:22:51] Freedom of Information Bill.
[2:22:54] Sana po ay
[2:22:54] huwag na natin
[2:22:55] itong pahirapan pa,
[2:22:56] makapag-bycome na kami
[2:22:57] para kung sino man po talaga
[2:22:58] yung nabubuhay
[2:22:59] na politiko dito
[2:23:00] sa bansang ito
[2:23:03] na nabubuhay
[2:23:04] ng sobra-sobra
[2:23:05] at walang kasimple-simple.
[2:23:07] Huwag na po tayo
[2:23:07] maglokohan dito.
[2:23:10] Sana alamin na natin talaga
[2:23:12] kung sino talaga dito
[2:23:13] yung nabubuhay talaga
[2:23:14] ng may 16 million,
[2:23:16] may 22 million,
[2:23:17] may maraming bahay dito
[2:23:18] dito po sa bayan natin.
[2:23:20] Para naman po yung halagang
[2:23:22] 250,000 eh.
[2:23:25] Nung kailan lang po
[2:23:26] gumastos ako
[2:23:27] 900,000.
[2:23:29] Gusto nyo po,
[2:23:29] imbestigahan nyo
[2:23:30] kung saan ko dinala.
[2:23:32] Ito lang po,
[2:23:33] yung mga pinagbabaril
[2:23:34] doon sa Takloban,
[2:23:35] ginastosan ko
[2:23:36] ng 300,000.
[2:23:38] Yung pinagbabaril po
[2:23:39] dyan sa South Cotabato,
[2:23:40] sa Eskwelahan,
[2:23:41] ginagastosan ko po ngayon
[2:23:42] ng 340,000.
[2:23:44] Imbestigahan nyo ako.
[2:23:46] Yun lang po,
[2:23:46] maraming salamat.
[2:23:47] Thank you.
[2:23:49] Thank you.
[2:23:50] Julie noted.
[2:23:51] What is the pleasure
[2:23:51] of the Honorable Redon
[2:23:53] who was signifying earlier
[2:23:54] his intent to speak?
[2:23:58] Yun po nga pagsiserve lang
[2:23:59] nga yung honor ng subpoena
[2:24:00] kung sakaling nga sa Sabado pa
[2:24:01] maglalabas ng listahan.
[2:24:05] Confirmed.
[2:24:06] Attorney Sheila,
[2:24:06] how will that be?
[2:24:08] We will file that by email,
[2:24:10] Your Honor,
[2:24:10] on Saturday.
[2:24:11] No, the service of subpoena
[2:24:13] is being asked.
[2:24:14] Will you require a subpoena
[2:24:16] or will you be presenting
[2:24:17] the witness yourself?
[2:24:18] Yes, we will require
[2:24:19] a subpoena,
[2:24:20] Your Honor.
[2:24:21] We will also provide
[2:24:22] the email address
[2:24:23] of the witnesses
[2:24:25] for the e-service
[2:24:27] of the subpoena.
[2:24:28] So it will be service
[2:24:29] by email?
[2:24:30] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:24:31] Okay, Your Honor.
[2:24:32] Thank you.
[2:24:34] Finally,
[2:24:35] Attorney Sheila,
[2:24:36] I know you have been
[2:24:37] very prudent
[2:24:38] with the court's time
[2:24:39] with the withdrawal
[2:24:42] of some of the witnesses
[2:24:43] and by asking
[2:24:46] and agreeing
[2:24:47] on stipulations.
[2:24:48] may the court know
[2:24:49] how many more witnesses.
[2:24:53] You can give me a cap.
[2:24:54] You don't have to give
[2:24:55] an exact number,
[2:24:56] Attorney Sheila.
[2:24:57] You will be presenting.
[2:24:58] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:24:59] Without going into the details,
[2:25:00] we still present.
[2:25:01] Without naming the witnesses.
[2:25:02] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:25:03] We intend to present
[2:25:04] around eight
[2:25:05] to ten witnesses,
[2:25:07] Your Honor.
[2:25:07] Ten would be the maximum,
[2:25:08] but around those figures,
[2:25:10] Your Honor.
[2:25:11] Okay.
[2:25:11] Thank you.
[2:25:12] Because given ASEAN,
[2:25:14] the ASEAN meeting,
[2:25:16] we won't have any trial
[2:25:17] on Monday,
[2:25:18] Tuesday,
[2:25:19] and Wednesday next week.
[2:25:20] That's 16, 17, 18.
[2:25:21] We have given you
[2:25:22] an advisory
[2:25:23] with respect to that.
[2:25:24] Our next trial date
[2:25:25] will already be
[2:25:26] on November 19 and 20
[2:25:29] for the whole day.
[2:25:31] November 30
[2:25:32] will be a holiday
[2:25:33] and we have not yet
[2:25:35] issued a calendar
[2:25:36] for December
[2:25:37] because,
[2:25:40] sorry,
[2:25:41] before that week.
[2:25:42] The following week
[2:25:43] of November 20,
[2:25:45] 23 to 27,
[2:25:50] perhaps after the wee hours
[2:25:51] of 28,
[2:25:52] will be devoted
[2:25:53] for the budget deliberations,
[2:25:55] plenary budget deliberations
[2:25:57] of the Senate.
[2:26:00] The following week,
[2:26:01] Monday,
[2:26:01] will be November 30.
[2:26:05] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:26:05] December 1
[2:26:06] will be a Tuesday.
[2:26:07] December 2
[2:26:08] is Pasay City Day
[2:26:10] which we have not yet
[2:26:11] decided if we will follow
[2:26:13] depending on
[2:26:14] the Senate President.
[2:26:17] If he wants to be liked more,
[2:26:19] he may follow it.
[2:26:20] If he does not care about that,
[2:26:22] he might not follow it.
[2:26:24] So we will issue
[2:26:26] the calendar
[2:26:26] for December
[2:26:27] in the week
[2:26:29] of November 19 and 20,
[2:26:31] next week.
[2:26:32] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:26:33] As the Court
[2:26:33] has done so in the past,
[2:26:35] announcing the schedule
[2:26:36] of trial dates
[2:26:37] for the subsequent month
[2:26:38] in the current month.
[2:26:41] Would that be okay
[2:26:42] for the parties?
[2:26:43] Understood, Your Honor.
[2:26:44] Just one last clarification.
[2:26:46] We no longer have
[2:26:47] a hearing
[2:26:48] on November 23
[2:26:49] because in the advisory...
[2:26:51] No, no more.
[2:26:52] Okay, thank you, Your Honor.
[2:26:53] Originally,
[2:26:53] the advisory stated
[2:26:54] we will still have
[2:26:55] a hearing in the morning
[2:26:56] of the 23rd
[2:26:59] up to 2,
[2:26:59] but no more.
[2:27:00] Thank you for that information,
[2:27:01] Your Honor.
[2:27:02] So that we can also
[2:27:03] inform our witness
[2:27:04] that we intended
[2:27:04] initially to present
[2:27:07] on the 20th.
[2:27:07] So hopefully,
[2:27:08] Attorney Sheila,
[2:27:09] we will be able
[2:27:10] to finish a witness
[2:27:14] on the 20th
[2:27:15] because it's a big gap.
[2:27:17] Yes, Your Honor.
[2:27:18] Secondly,
[2:27:19] kindly give enough witnesses
[2:27:22] to cover
[2:27:23] the two whole days
[2:27:24] of trial
[2:27:25] so that we don't
[2:27:27] need to adjourn
[2:27:30] or cancel a trial
[2:27:31] kung sakasakaring
[2:27:32] mabilis yung witness
[2:27:33] na ipe-present po ninyo.
[2:27:34] Understood, Your Honor.
[2:27:36] Okay, thank you very much.
[2:27:36] Any other matters
[2:27:37] the councils wish to take up?
[2:27:40] Nothing more from our end.
[2:27:41] There being none,
[2:27:44] ay, nina talagang bumalik.
[2:27:47] Trial is adjourned
[2:27:48] until...
[2:27:50] Happy birthday again,
[2:27:51] Senator Aimee.
[2:27:51] Trial is adjourned
[2:27:53] until November 19,
[2:27:58] 2026.
[2:27:59] That's a Thursday.
[2:28:00] Thursday at 10 o'clock
[2:28:13] in the morning.