Estrada slams how Dela Rosa was blocked entry into Senate premises — ANC

[0:00] Going back to the Senate now. [0:39] Mr. President, dear colleagues, I requested the Sergeant-at-Arms when we were on break before you elected this representation to review the footage of the CCTV. [0:53] Has it been reviewed? [0:54] Yeah. [0:55] So since it has been reviewed, will you be ready to answer what happened factually? [0:59] Yeah. [1:00] Is there any objection to suspend the rule so that we can hear directly from the Sergeant-at-Arms? [1:05] He's ready to give a report given that he saw the CCTV footage. [1:10] Yeah. [1:12] Yeah. [1:13] With the permission of the body, if there's no objection. [1:15] Yes, there's no objection. [1:16] Yes. [1:18] The former Senate President? [1:22] Yes. [1:24] There was a motion, Mr. former Senate President, after I inquired with the Sergeant-at-Arms. [1:30] He has viewed the CCTV and has saw what happened. [1:34] So he will just tell us and give us a report if there's no objection. [1:40] Well, I have reservations, Mr. President, because it has never been done in the Senate. [1:49] We have not suspended the rules while in plenary just to talk to the Sergeant-at-Arms. [1:57] We can do it after the adjournment. [2:00] Why don't we do it the usual way, which is let's adjourn and then conduct a hearing of the Senate and ask the Sergeant-at-Arms. [2:09] Well, two reasons, former Mr. President. [2:12] Number one, it's also never been done that a senator being prevented to attend and being wrestled. [2:20] And number two, in the past, we have suspended the rules and asked members of the executive. [2:25] So actually, I don't think there are going to be interpolations of grilling or if ever it's through me. [2:32] But I think it's a matter of the survival of the Senate, because if we cannot even be assured that we can come to the session. [2:40] I also want to ask the Sergeant-at-Arms, is it true that there are still agents of the NBI who are in fact still inside the Senate? [2:49] And what is their business here, being here? [2:54] Yes, that is the... [2:56] Go ahead. [2:57] Go ahead. [2:58] I'm sorry, sir. [2:59] Senator, but I was just raising his hand. [3:01] I was about to say, I don't think it was the Sergeant-at-Arms who was preventing Senator De Rosa. [3:07] It was some elements from another agency, not the Sergeant-at-Arms. [3:12] I agree, Mr. President. [3:13] That's why my statement is we will allow him to give a report based on the CCTV that he has examined as our... [3:21] With your permission, Senator Soto, can we recognize Senator Bato? [3:25] Yeah, sure. [3:26] Before acting on your reservation. [3:28] Go ahead. [3:29] Thank you, Mr. President. [3:30] As of now, Mr. President, Antonio Trillanes and some NBI operatives are still at the library. [3:40] Mr. President, may I move that the Sergeant-at-Arms remove these people from the vicinity of the Senate? [3:52] Mr. President, dear colleagues, Senator Trillanes, as a former member of the Senate, is welcome in the Senate and will, of course, be given due courtesy unless he has... [4:12] He is part of the harassment, Mr. President. [4:14] Mr. President, he is part of the harassment. [4:16] He is with me. [4:17] Mr. President, yes. [4:18] Mr. President, who was the NBI who asked me to be here. [4:19] Mr. President, why are we here? [4:20] Mr. President, why did he have to leave here? [4:22] Mr. President, why would we have to leave here? [4:23] Mr. President, yes. [4:24] With that clarification, is there any objection that we ask the... [4:29] Mr. President, we will ask the NBI to leave except for the person or people who assaulted you because, in my view, our legals should bring them for inquest because they were caught flagrante delicto. [4:45] Delicto assaulting a senator in our premises. [4:49] Yung nag-assault to sayo, hindi dapat pakawalan. [4:52] Dapat dalin for inquest. [4:56] Kung walang kilalaman na nandito at wala silang official business dito, [5:03] may motion ang Senator Bato na paalisin sila sa Senate? [5:07] Is there any objection? [5:08] Mr. President, I have no objection to the motion of Senator De La Rosa. [5:16] As a matter of fact, I will probably support this motion, [5:20] but parliamentary rules dictate that we settle first the previous motion. [5:26] There is an pending motion. [5:28] Hindi pwedeng patungan ng lesser motion. [5:30] Thank you for the reminder. [5:32] First, the motion of Senator Gingoy Estrada, unless he wants to withdraw the motion. [5:37] With Senator Pia Cayetano, is it on the same topic or a different topic? [5:41] It's a continuation of the removal of the person. [5:44] So, I can wait until this motion is resolved. [5:46] Yes, let's act first on that. [5:49] Senator Estrada, may I ask if you can withdraw? [5:53] Because I think it's more urgent that the NBI first leave the NBI. [5:57] Then we can have a short huddle with the Sergeant at Arms, [6:02] whether we will ask him to report here officially. [6:04] Mr. President, may I may? [6:06] Yes. [6:07] Sana, bago sila paalisin, i-identify muna natin yung mga naghaharang sa akin at i-inquish natin. [6:15] Papailan natin ang kaso. [6:17] Bago sila paalisin dito lahat. [6:18] Diyan, para tayong king-queen dito. [6:20] Yes. [6:20] In-assault na tayo dito sa ating opisina. [6:23] Tapos walang mangyayari. [6:24] Paalisin lang natin. [6:26] We have to arrest them. [6:28] Let me clarify, Senator Bato. [6:29] That's my point a while ago. [6:31] So, papaalisin yung mga walang kilalaman sa pag-assault sa'yo. [6:36] And that is not limited to those who threw punches or wrestled you. [6:42] Meaning, if they are in conspiracy together in trying to prevent you from attending the session... [6:49] I am sure Trilliani is involved, Mr. President. [6:51] Then, my suggestion is to consult with the legal and to bring them for inquest. [6:58] But before that, I will follow the suggestion of Senator Soto. [7:02] Can we first dispose or withdraw muna? [7:09] Mr. President, I withdraw my previous motion. [7:13] So, since the motion is withdrawn, Senator Pia? [7:17] Yes. [7:17] I think this is what the Senate President had in mind in any case. [7:21] Let me just put on record. [7:23] I think Senator Bato will also welcome this. [7:26] Before removing anyone who is not involved, [7:28] we have to determine who is involved and who is not involved. [7:30] Obviously, I think that's quite obvious. [7:32] But to be clear with the instructions of the Senate President, [7:35] everybody here should be dealt with because they are here for a reason. [7:40] We need to hear from them. [7:42] They should give their testimony. [7:43] Kung bakit sila nandito, sino ang nagpapunta sa kanila dito, [7:46] ano ang instructions sa kanila, kahit tubayo lang sila dito. [7:49] We want to know. [7:49] Why are they here? [7:50] So, just to be clear, I'm pretty sure that is what the Senate President meant. [7:54] But perhaps we can instruct our legal team very carefully bago paalisen. [7:59] Pati yung identification nila, yung official identification nila, [8:02] baka may magmising in action diyan. [8:04] We just want to be clear that everyone who had, [8:08] who even witnessed, even if they were just a witness, [8:10] we would want to have access to them, Mr. President. [8:12] Thank you. [8:13] Let me clarify. [8:14] If the committees themselves can hold indirect or indirect contempt unruly guests, [8:25] may they be witnesses, may they be our employees or whatsoever, [8:29] basta't non-members ng Senate, [8:31] eh lalo na na pwedeng mag-direct or indirect contempt dito sa Senado. [8:37] But we are dealing with two separate things, [8:40] whether what they did was contemptuous, [8:42] and then secondly, [8:44] whether there was a criminal offence committed within our premises, [8:48] in front of our faces, [8:50] that gives us the right for an arrest [8:52] and ask the DOJ for an inquest. [8:55] That is why I think the Sergeant at Arms [8:58] took our instructions a while ago, [9:01] not only to view the video, [9:03] but to conduct an immediate investigation. [9:05] Maybe we can have a two-minute suspension [9:10] and consult with the Sergeant of Arms [9:15] kung nasaan na yung investigation nila [9:16] before we ask anyone to leave the Senate. [9:19] Tama si Senator Bato at Senator Piye. [9:22] Baka palisin natin ba? [9:23] Pero baka naman sila yung dapat arrestuhin. [9:27] So we'll suspend for one minute. [9:31] There you go. [9:33] Senator Bato de la Rosa, [9:34] who finally showed up at the Senate [9:36] after being absent since November [9:38] amid rumors of an arrest warrant out for him, [9:40] he came to the Senate today [9:42] and his crying harassment over an alleged assault. [9:46] He did say earlier that NBI personnel [9:49] prevented him from entering. [9:51] He did sustain cuts. [9:53] He was treated by the Senate medical team. [9:56] He also said that, [9:57] he said that former Senator Antonio Trillanes [10:01] with NBI agents are still inside the Senate. [10:05] In fact, he said they're still in the Senate library. [10:08] He did ask Senate President Alan Peter Cayetano [10:11] to ask these people to remove these people [10:13] from the vicinity of the Senate, [10:15] but there was an exchange among the lawmakers [10:18] saying that maybe before they asked them to leave, [10:21] they first identify who these NBI agents were, [10:24] who gave them instructions, [10:25] what were the instructions and investigate [10:28] and leave the sergeant-at-arms [10:29] to continue the investigation. [10:32] Senator Bato de la Rosa saying [10:34] that this is harassment for him, [10:37] a sitting senator, a lawmaker, [10:39] being prevented to enter the Senate.